WEBVTT - Arian Foster 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.680 Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.960 is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:19.520 Let's getting down to do it. Good do it. We 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.880 asked the questions you always want to know, but no 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:29.040 one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.800 them about it, then we're about to let you know. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:46.000 It's all moisturized today. Man, don't don't put down you're 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.519 trying to blame it on the We need to take 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.320 this from you. You need to start from the beginning, 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:54.760 keeping that hitting in the second season. Man, it's really 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:58.280 a super excited Uh. But wanted to start off something. 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:03.040 Man and I had the opportunity went back to Utah 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.880 watching my watching my utes play. We were state. We 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.520 were while we were staying, UM the head coaches, Jay Hill, 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:14.600 who actually used to play UH for for University of Utah. 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.520 He was there when I was there, so it was 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.679 really cool, uh to see him. It was cool walking 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.240 into the stadium. They said, Uh, we haven't had fans 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.440 in the stands six and eighteen days And I was like, wow, 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.679 you just forget probably about two or three weeks into 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.920 UM when we were decided we were gonna go back 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.160 to uh uh to the University of Utah to see 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:39.200 a game, um and and see Angie's parents. Man, Um, 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.720 I'm a believer, and I also believe that those uh 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.320 little things inside, those those little voices, if you're quiet enough, 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.559 and when you're sitting in the car on the run 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.960 or doing something, UM, I believe that's God just you know, 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.080 tap you on the shoulder, tap you on the heart, whisper. 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.360 And so you gotta have those quiet moments. I went 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:03.120 to University of Utah from ninety nine two thousand and 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:07.880 we you know, growing up and growing up in l A, 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:14.160 moving to Utah for college, being a young dad on scholarship. Man, 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.120 let me tell you some scholarship checks ain't what they 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.440 used to be. They used to be tough, right, And 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.440 so we had pale grants and financial aide. And you 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:26.120 know N I L back then, man, but no L. 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.000 And I wasn't no n I L. Yeah, you know 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:40.400 it was in I L for so one time we 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.600 lived on for three oh one twin River Away. That 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:47.920 was apartment where we lived there. Peyton was really young, 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.440 and I remember around this time we only had a 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.440 few We had like one or two diapers left. And 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.480 Angie is looking at me, and I'm looking at Angie 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:57.919 and we're just trying to figure it out. And it's 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:03.200 like set in the third you know, actually second week 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.120 in the month, scholarship check ain't coming to the end 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:10.280 of the month. Not a lot of options. So I know, 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.400 you know, I'm gonna do what I know I need 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.520 to do. So I um, I told, and I said, hey, 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:20.320 make a list. What do we need? So make the 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:24.360 list on screw the license plate. We had a Ford 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:28.160 Focused stick shift, So I get in the little four 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.480 it was a green Ford Focus getting the stick shift 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:36.440 two door, get up early, unlike under the license plate, 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.680 and I drive up to the This place was called 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:45.040 Harmon's on Redwood Road, So I'll go to the Harmon's 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:50.760 early by sick fifteen. Not going there, man, And I 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:55.840 got my list. We need pampers and wipes, but we 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.800 need a whole bunch of other stuff too. And so 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.560 I'm you know, I'm i'mna doing what I do. If 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:04.800 I'm get caught, I ain't get him kid called stilln't 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:08.920 want to three Pampers ship. I'm gonna out big. So 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.480 I load up the cart and I go shopping. Man, 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:20.279 I get steaks, chicken, wipes everything. And I walked straight 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:25.320 out there out the store loaded up. I ain't got 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:30.240 a bag in sight, load up, trump, speed off. I 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.560 couldn't get in a fifth gear fast enough to all. 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.400 I probably went from one in three killing the clutch, 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:42.480 killing the clutch. So I go home and I run upstairs. 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:48.279 We just live on the second floor. Bring him, babe 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.880 and Angie like what wait, what is this? I'm like, 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.560 just grab stuff and put it in. So I'll go 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.720 in there. We'll bring our stuff in. And what's the 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:02.000 point of story. I'm not trying to make lighter, trying 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.760 to you know, I ain't know snitch, but also believe 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.320 in you know, you gotta give a contest of who 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.960 you are and season to move forward. Man, I want 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.560 to give context of who we are, who I am, 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.800 who you are, who backstage, Joe are everybody that's with 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:21.640 this just context of Um. Sometimes you look at people 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:27.040 and you see them and you don't understand their story. Um, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:31.000 And so I tell that story is probably about the 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.880 week and a half before it's my time time to 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.720 get on this first class flight. Lord, like, uh, you 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.240 ain't gonna pay this back. You know it's been a 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.440 while now. You've been in Utah a few times, You've 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.000 been honored in the Hall of Fame, Packed twelve, Hall 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.840 of Fame. You this, you that, But you ain't paid 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:55.600 back what I let you get away with. So, man, 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.520 I went to the bank, got cash. So we're looking. 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:05.400 So we're back there and we're looking for Harmon's. Harmon's 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.919 is no longer Harmon's. Harmon's is Utah's version of Audies 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:15.320 or Piggly Wiggly or food Line. It's actually changed into 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:19.640 two different grocery stores now. So I'm going there and 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:26.880 I'm asking for a m I go in there, and 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.400 you know, when you're trying to make right, you know, 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.360 God is going now, he's gonna he's gonna stretch it. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.600 He's gonna pressoushi if you bail out, right. So I 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.320 go in there. You know, I got my Utah hat 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:40.080 on and and put these glasses on though you know, okay, 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:45.240 Duke got the cameras, man, So I put the glasses on. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.000 I walk in and he's gonna say, boy, you better 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.359 take them glasses on trying you're trying to do the 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:53.760 short So I took my glasses off and I asked 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.240 for the manager. So I walk in. I think it's 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.760 called Macy's or whatever it's called now, not Macy's, like 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:00.960 the store. But I know I'm saying it wrong, but whatever. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.240 To the point of it, it ain't the same story technically, 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:08.000 So I'm off the hook. I don't know you're not, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.520 but I know I'm not. I'm just telling you what's 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.480 going through my mind. Can you can I can I 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.840 talk out loud to y'all? You know hear me? Right? 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.000 So I'm like, so you know, and so I was, hey, 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.280 can I speak to the manager? Yeah? Was it? I 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.880 just want to speak to the manage John, John to 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.800 the front place, John to the front. So it's probably 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.120 only like forty seconds, but you know, it feels like 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:39.160 ten minutes, man John at lunch. So I'm straight right, boy, 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:43.200 don't you boy? Don't boy? No? Now at this point, 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.880 was it a more audible voice of said that quiet voice? No, 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.960 this thing, it's out of it. Yeah, I want to 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:53.360 make sure I knew that, Nina, don't you move, just boy, 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.400 out of breath, like you know, I ain't ran, but 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.480 why is the altitude making me sure to breath? Well, 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.560 let me get this system manager because John is out. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.880 So they bring their system manager up and so I 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:09.120 got my mask on right, and I said, well, so 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:14.840 I go to explain what I'm doing in the first 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:18.840 couple of things where well, you know, I had or 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:24.360 like man just quit playing around. So I said, Sir, 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:28.160 I took some things a couple of years ago that 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:36.280 I shouldn't have. He goes, wow, you know so a 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:43.240 typical rational person. He goes hands on his hips. So 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:48.840 what did you take, sir? And I went to go explain, 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.960 and I just said I took some things that I 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:57.160 know I shouldn't have. He goes, well, was it in 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:01.320 the And I knew this was the lower having. He said, 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:06.400 was it in like hair products? I don't know why. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.040 He was like, was it you know what particular section 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:18.559 of it? Oh? Any anyway, so I'm like, now, I 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.880 took groceries, but I took her stuff I wasn't supposed 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.520 to take. So I had the cash. I gave it 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.280 to him and he said, wow, we generally don't get 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:34.800 people coming back to pay for what they took. And 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:38.080 so I did that and it was over and I 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:43.240 walked out. Man, what was crazy is to build up 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:48.200 to doing it was so much more than it than 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.400 what I experienced by doing it. When I walked out 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.720 of the store, it was like a weight had been 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.719 lifted because it was I think it was crazy is 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.839 prior to us going there that week? Yeah, bro, I 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:11.199 haven't thought about that story ever in my life until probably, 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.800 you know, a couple of weeks before we left. What's 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.880 funny about that is when you actually did the act 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.600 of the borrowing of the goods, you weren't as nervous 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.640 as going back to have a conversation about what you did. 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:31.480 Just that ain't born and their product some sprits er 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.120 or something. But just doing doing that act because at 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.080 the time you wasn't doing it to be funny. At 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.319 the time, you wouldn't doing it, you know, with your guys, 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.640 with your teammates as a as a joke or as 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.800 a hazing. I mean, you did it because you need 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.280 to take care of your family. Not saying that's right 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.880 or it's justified. However, you going and doing that, you 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.720 were just trying to take care of your family. Well, now, 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.600 because I had the luxury of hearing this story. We 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.599 had spoke at an event and Steve had told this 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:01.160 story to a bunch of college guys, and that wasn't 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.000 the story that they thought they were gonna get. They 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:04.520 thought they were going to get the age and eighty 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:08.160 nine the hairs. How I broke down a dB But 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.080 he had that audience. You could hear a pin drop 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.560 in there and just that messaging to even pay it 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.160 back to that store. But the cash you gave, of course, 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.160 and I think, if I remember correctly, he was gonna 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.839 put it into their grocery fund that when indigent people 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.240 had come in when they're in a situation like maybe 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.800 young Steve Smith was in, Hey, I got this in 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.719 my back pocket. Let me take care of this young individual. 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.080 So he's gonna be helping out others as well. It 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:39.640 was just tough that for me, it was staring in 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:44.000 the face of a company. You there wrong, even though 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.600 the original company long gong. You gotta let go of 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:53.359 the offense to see his opportunity. So that was, um, 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.480 that's what I experienced, man, And it was it was 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:59.720 it was, I want to say, it was just different 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.000 and it was just say one of those uh, one 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:08.160 of those reflective moments, right, yeah. And I think the 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.080 other thing too that you said that was profound is 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.880 sometimes you have to go with that voice that's the small, 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:17.920 little whisper, because that's often the one that is the one. 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.080 You know, you gotta that's the real voice. That's that's 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.880 the one. It's it's that one. It's now over time 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.080 it becomes so audible that you have to move, but 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.840 you have to listen when it's that small, like and 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.240 it's right there in the back of your mind too. 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.960 It's never gonna turn everything down and everything. You gotta 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.520 listen to that voice. That voice has always been the 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.000 one that I'm like, all right, I gotta be obedient 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:40.880 to that one, because I know if I'm obedient to 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:42.960 that one, then when I get to the future, then 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.319 that's then everything's gonna be taken care of. So that's 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.000 that's the most profound part that you listen to, that 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.439 to that small whisper voice, because that's always the one. Always. 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.280 I don't know about that storm manager voice though, like 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.440 hands on his hips, no, he was he was like, well, 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:01.280 what did your take? Oh, was it hair products or 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.040 was it you know? And I'm like, you know, damn 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:09.160 willing products. While you look at my hat when I 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.160 said that, you don't you do one? Covering up like 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:19.480 it's a red toothpage back in the day, y'all finish 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:29.520 who we got coming up on the Cut to a Podcast? 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.559 We've got Arian Foster, a four time Pro Bowl running 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.240 back for the Houston Texans in Miami Dolphins. He was 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.960 first team All Pro in t and he holds the 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:42.120 Houston Texans franchise records in rushing yards and rushing touchdowns. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.680 Arian Foster on the Cut to a Podcast. I appreciate 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.160 you have me, man, I appreciate it. Man. You look good. 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:53.640 You look all healthy and vibrant. Relative man, But I'm 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.520 doing all right for myself. Hey, what do you mean? 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:01.520 It's it is? Yeah? Yeah, you know, ups and downs life. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.360 We haven't in there everybody but life life and out 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.480 here man, life be life, And I like that. Our 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.559 first segment it's called get Ice Up. There are random icebreakers. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.800 Smithy has random questions. We have no idea what they are. Smitty, 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.440 go ahead, give me the first one, all right? What 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:25.160 makes what makes you most frustrated? Uh? Irrational people or 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:29.480 just irrational thoughts? Um that like people believe things or 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.480 do things like off of impulse or just off of 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:37.160 strictly feelings without like really thinking through why they do 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:43.920 or think that way. So, uh, does truth exists without evidence? 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:54.840 Sphical question? Um, it's icebreakers, The truth exists without evidence? Yeah, 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.800 as black man, we can say, y'all, well, I gotta 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:00.440 I gotta follow up on that one. How do two 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.960 people agree on what truth is? Well, that goes back 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:12.320 to my the ship that bothers me is uh, I 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:13.960 mean I would think, I mean not to get all 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:18.040 super deep on from the first minute, but if it's 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.600 literally what's going on, and it's what's going on in 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.560 our country right now, is if two people can't agree 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.000 on what truth is, that's when you have the disco 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.440 or the dissonance. Right, So you have to agree that 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:33.240 there has to be a methodology or yeah, methodology in 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.440 order to get the closest to truth, because when you're 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.480 talking about it philosophically, you can only learn things to 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.840 be true to a certain degree, Like there's no absolute 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:43.880 truth and this is going a little deeper than I anticipated. 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:47.200 But so you have to agree that the degree in 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:51.880 which we're calling something true, um, has to be Uh, 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.880 derived from like a methodology, and if we can't agree 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:56.800 on that methodology, then there's really no point in that's 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:01.240 even having a company at least me too. What does 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:08.000 success look like to you? Yeah, that's a great question. Now, 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:09.840 this is one of the better questions in the world. 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:11.680 Like when you like, when you talk to young cats, right, 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:13.400 when you talk to young cats. We have all these dreams, 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.240 goes and efficient is one of the things that I 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.040 always tell them is like to make sure you understand 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.040 and define your success because you're always gonna be chasing 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.640 that rainbow, like there's always a bigger call, better call, 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.040 bigger house or whatever. Can be so defined with your successes. 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.520 And so to me, success looks like a healthy, happy 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:34.520 family that UM can get to get up and enjoy 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:38.560 the day without having to worry about uh, society's wolves. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.960 You know that ain't real life? Then wow, just being 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.440 honest like that is that that's that that's a UM. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:50.200 You're talking about methodology, man, that's a mindsetting which a 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:55.680 lot of people find UM extremely difficult to process to 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.680 and our personally believe, especially with the four team, they 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:07.640 just fourteen through those people, UM are leading to suicide 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.520 of our suicide rate right now from to currently today 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:19.040 fourteen And that is exactly has to do with what 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:23.520 you define success, right and something and and social media 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:30.280 defines success in an unrealistic and almost kind of you know, 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.920 we hear this in football. Perception is reality, right, What 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:38.080 people perceive you as is what they believe you are, 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:44.320 even though contrary to belief and evidence that would show right. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.720 I just did a podcast is his Father podcast? And 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:51.600 he asked, he asked me about um, asked me about 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.520 some some questions, but then he said, why do you 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.240 do your podcast? And I said, well, I do it 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:03.240 because I want to give people an opportunity to reveal 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:07.280 who they are outside of their role. Because I had 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:12.280 a speaking engagement with a guy. Waited till after the 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:16.320 speaking engagement, and he said, you know, as a as 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.399 a young he was older, he was older gentleman, and 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:22.000 he said, uh, you know, I respect you and as 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.800 a as a as a man, as a young man, 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.240 I really admire how you've grown because as a football player, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:34.960 I particularly didn't like you. And I really wasn't sure 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:39.320 how to take that backhanded compliment. But what stuck with 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:44.119 me is he took my role or my job and 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:49.360 formulated his opinion, Oh who I am as a man 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.119 and as a as a as an employee of the 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:59.439 NFL to say or disqualified me in every other area 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:04.320 of my life because of how I play football. And 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.119 I just found that interesting. That's that's the world we 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.439 live in. I know, I know. But if we do 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.719 that to them, if we do that to them, meaning 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:17.240 someone else, Oh they're offended, you know, leave a bad 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:21.480 review on a on on something that they work at. 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:27.400 Oh they get they they get their socks and the tizzy. Right. 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:33.439 Imagine if we started leaving reviews at the person at 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.719 the register at a at a bank, or or at 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:41.200 a store and just started saying, man, great great store, 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.879 horrible services, and then start name dropping. Better be carrying 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:52.119 out here, man, hey man, listen, I've had a lot 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:54.639 of time on my hands, right, I've had a lot 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.200 of time on hands, So I started, you know, I 0:19:56.560 --> 0:20:07.280 just started to think about his name. I love cut 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.880 to It, and I love it even more when you 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:14.080 download us and subscribe, and you can follow us on 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:17.280 social media too, Smithie, where where at that's at? Cut 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:22.480 to It? On Instagram? What about Twitter? At? Cut to It? Facebook? 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.600 Cut to It featuring Steve Smith singr what about online? 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.480 And you can follow us at cut to It podcast 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.719 dot com, where you can buy merch and you can 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.240 subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts. I got 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:39.760 all my answers questions. Uh yeah, I got all my 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:43.359 questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother, Cut 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:47.080 to a podcast dot com. Where are you living these days? 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:50.320 I'm still on in Houston, man. I got all my 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:55.359 babies out there, so um, until they until they you know, 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:57.880 are out on their own and experience in the world, 0:20:58.119 --> 0:20:59.840 I'm gonna be there. I gotta foot in there at least, 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.119 all right. How has life been for you for the 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:09.720 last eighteen months? Oh? Man, Well, split with my lady 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:11.480 and I think that was like one of the first 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:16.920 times where uh really experienced heartbreak because before I think 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:21.720 I have been um, I would to stay womanizing, man, 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:23.879 But like I played the game a lot, right, and 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:25.760 so this is the first time I was really like 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:30.880 invested in a family like that, and so um, long 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:34.040 story short, Um, yeah, experienced some heartbreak to where it 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.359 was like really transformative and it kind of changed the 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.960 way that I viewed things, kind of changed the way 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:42.679 I looked at myself and you know, in the midst 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:47.640 of it, just kind of figuring out um uh forgiveness 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:51.439 and kind of meet people where they at instead of 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:53.960 where I expected to be and that that's that's been 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:58.240 really helpful. So we already started off this way. I 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:00.879 love asking asking it this way. You know, where are 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:05.200 you from in the place you call your hometown? I 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.760 grew up at Albuquerque, New Mexico. UM, went to high 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:10.720 school in San Diego. So I kind of read both 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:14.919 both kind of reaped me. So I called both home. Okay, 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:25.760 how would you describe your childhood? Chaotic but um but fun? 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:29.400 It's chotic. Elaborate on that if you, if you, if 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:32.159 you're there too, Yeah, yeah, So I grew up. I 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.480 mean it's nothing the story that nobody's heard before, but 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:38.359 I grew up in a domestically violent household, uh, group 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:42.480 of poverty. UM and so kind of navigating those waters 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:46.600 and and trying to u hold onto a dream you 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:49.800 have as a kid, it gets uh, you know, it 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:55.320 gets dramatic. There's just a lot, a lot of moving pieces, um, 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:57.880 a lot of emotional baggage you have to work through 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:01.160 in your lot of years that that you were unable 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:04.679 to UM and then you know the family dynamic that 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:06.960 comes with that as well as being a breadwinning and 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:11.600 your family from somebody from first generation wealth too, being 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.520 able to manage all of those relationships and the expectations 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:19.800 that come with that UM friendship. So uh yeah, man, 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:22.960 I read something my my my research team gave me 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:25.800 that which was really good and I want to park 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:30.080 on it. Um, you're raised in an Islamic household. M 0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:34.840 hm yes, so my father Muslim, Um, I believe he 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:40.719 was raised Catholic, UM, but his life. You can't just 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:46.040 say that casually and then skied over it like so 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:48.760 so so so when I when I say, when I 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:50.679 say Muslim in the house I grew up in, it 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:54.760 was It's not the like traditional Eastern Muslim, right, it's 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:59.119 more so the americanized um f O I through the 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:02.359 Islam Minister Durkan, like, it was that sect of Islam 0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:06.840 that I grew up underneath, which is basically the same thing, 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:12.960 except that they are a little more um politically active 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:16.120 and politically motivated. So like, in order to in order 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:19.080 to to to be in the f O I like, 0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:21.760 you have to have a very good foundation and you 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.080 have to understand your black history. You have to understand, uh, 0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:28.000 your Bible, you have to understand your Koran. And I 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.480 think growing up in that household, which obviously I'm not 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:32.600 a Muslim anymore, but I grew up in a house 0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.720 or of allowed me to, um, get a good route 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:39.000 foundation of religion in general. Because I think if you're 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:40.679 if you're born in the crypt from my experience, and 0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.440 if you're born in a Christian home, if you're born 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.679 in a Catholic home, I grew up around a lot 0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:49.600 of Christians and Catholics. Uh, they're not really necessarily interested 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:52.879 in other religions. Um, but when you grew up in 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:54.840 that household that I grew up in what we are 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:59.000 and it's it's more so to understand. It's also they intersect, right, 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:02.399 so uh, now to get too deep into it, but 0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:12.360 you can. Jesus and Jesus in a in a Christian belief, 0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.560 is the last prophet before God is supposed to have 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:21.680 come back in Islam Muhammad's dad, right, Um, and Jesus 0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:25.880 was a prophet in in in Islam, and so they 0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.480 view and love Jesus like a prophet, but they just 0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:31.480 don't view him as divine like Christians, too, and so 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.199