WEBVTT - Are Democrats Cancelling Too Soon? 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.080 Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:12.520 Reason Choice Media. Welcome home, y'all this episode one twenty seven, 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.360 one two seven of Native Lampire where we give you 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:19.600 our breakdown breakdown on all things politics with a little 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.800 bit of culture sprinkled in there. And I'm your host 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.919 for today, along with my co host, of course, never 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:29.520 to be forgotten, the Angela Rai, the Butkari sellers, and 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.720 they deserve a thee before their name because you know, 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:33.800 they want you to know they are the only one. 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:45.000 And we're joined today. We are joined today by Joshua. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.200 I ascribed you the the man. Are you doing? 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:49.960 I'm doing all right, man, I'm happy to be here. 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:51.000 I'm glad y'all have you all. 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:57.880 We're exceptionally proud to welcome you, Joshua. We uh one. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.360 We had asked your question before we entered the show, 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.520 and before I asked you that question, and before all 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:08.119 of your new listening public. I want to inform our 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:13.080 listeners that Joshua is a viral digital content creator and 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:20.000 a poster digital digital and really came no, that was 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:27.119 Miami baby, uh and really just all around a brilliant 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.959 black man and before he got on, I was like, Joshua, 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:31.640 are you single? Because I was trying to make sure 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.759 I can set y' all up on the listener side 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.759 in case there was an opening. But it appears that 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:38.280 Situations as always. 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:39.600 Answered that for himself. 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.600 I'm gonna let him off completely. Just take situations are complicated. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.520 No, I mean, like, as I was saying before, you know, 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:51.200 I'm in a committed relationship. I would I would have said, 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:52.680 I'm in a committed relationship with my Lord and save 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:57.400 for Jesus Christ, you know, he ordered my steps, trust 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.200 him with all my all, my heart, you know, lean 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.320 on my school and understanding. And so that's where I 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:03.880 feel like the relationship we should all be. 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.000 Let me tell you the relationship I don't understand. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.799 I ain't never see nobody be full of shit. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:16.200 Quote after I have a flag on the play really quick. 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.760 So the other thing that came up while we were 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.959 prepping to start the podcast is Joshua is not only 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.440 a poster digital content creator, but he's also a graduate 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.240 of the University of South. 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:30.720 That's true, South Dakota. 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.200 I was like, what what are you doing there? And 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:35.640 he has an answer for these things. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:37.800 What are you doing that. So I'm from Chicago. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.639 The Chicago to South Dakota pipeline is not strong, but 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:41.160 I did. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:43.720 I played basketball. 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.400 So you know, as anybody playing high school basketball, you know, 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.280 if you get a Division one scholarship, you go where 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:49.120 the scholarship is. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:50.200 So I got school. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.120 Page Universus South Dakota Division one. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:53.440 Yeah. 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:57.639 They are the mighty, the mighty fighting Christie Noms. 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.799 And on that note, you want to reload you within 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.160 seven days, within this coming we are going to be 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:11.600 in the place like no other ye day speaking of 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:18.680 to the reverse, So listen, we are carving out the 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.680 time to be with y'all in Atlanta, and we really 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.560 really want you to be with us in Atlanta at 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.760 the City Honery. 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But really, 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:09.240 in all honesty, y'all, we value you your family to us. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:11.640 I hope you feel the same way from from our 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.120 hearts to yours. But we want to see you in 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:15.920 the place, in the building and the place to be 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.039 in Atlanta, and you will also get the pleasure the 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.760 benefit of hearing from some really important presenter speakers. Panelness 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:24.960 will be joining us. Anything else does y'all got to 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:28.599 say about Atlanta to bring them there? Uh? Would be 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:29.600 short shirtless? 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.159 Oh no, I thought you guys were going to have 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:33.880 a competition. 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.760 It's not a competent, it's not a competition. There's nothing 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.480 that there's nothing FAM can do that in competition. 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.320 That's right, that's right, that's precisely right. Because we're not 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:45.280 on the same wavelength. 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:46.560 You know. 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.359 That your arms are too short to fight with God. 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.159 They put a crown above our head and more house 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:58.159 for us to grow into. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:02.640 Yes, we're so proud. I think when I are, I think. 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.480 Of University of South Dakota, when I think of. 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.960 Fat there it is and on that we can agree 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.880 all these got so many topics to cover in Face 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.320 today for your situational awareness, and there are a lot 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:13.680 of topics that we've got to get to and I 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.279 don't want to bury the lead that we are going 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.840 to spend some time, uh with this topic. I'm sure 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.320 you all have heard about the recent resignations from Congress, 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:26.919 but very specifically that of Congressman former Congressman Eric Swawoll, 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.240 who we just want to sort of get into some 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:34.440 of the I think nuance of these kinds of situations 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.560 and maybe ask some questions that aren't necessarily asked in 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.240 polite society. Y'all want to hang with us for that conversation. 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.800 But before we get there, y'all, lie, I got to 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.720 toss over to my friend Bacari, who I think is 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:46.760 kicking us off with some good news. Yeah. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.880 Man, when you when you're doom strolling sometimes on social media, 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.560 every now and then something pops up that brightens your day. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.680 And I want to give a shout out to one 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.680 hundred and four year old Charles Johnson, who is competing 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.839 in the Vegas shoot for the fourth time. I think 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.240 we have a clip of Charles here I wanted to play, 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.680 just so we get started off with a Charles, do 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.760 you mister mister Charles? 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.880 Yes, well, I'm My name is Charles Johnson and I'm 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.640 one hundred and four years old. I'm from Phoenix, Arizona, 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:22.240 originally from Plucksburg, West Virginia, but Phoenix now, and this 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.000 is I think this is my fourth time here. I 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.440 don't know if I'll make it five, but I'll try, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:29.840 you know what I mean. You know, this is one 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.360 of the joys of my life being this. You know, 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.200 it used to be golf. 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:35.760 This took the. 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.960 Place of golf. So that and I've met so many 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.000 good friends here. I'd love to tell people that I'm. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.640 An archery Oh. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.800 To tell people I'm going to Vegas means a lot. 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:53.600 You know. That's my favorite fence. This morning, I'm in Vegas, 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:54.400 the archery. 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:55.440 Oh yeah. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.920 So it's very exciting for them and for me too. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.600 My best memory here, yeah, the first time. I wish 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.679 you could hear when I was introduced to the whole crowd, 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.640 three thousand people for me to stay hello to them, 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.520 that was that was fantastic, you know what I mean. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:15.320 I'll never forget that, you know, great. 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.000 He ready to run for the Democratic nominee. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:26.600 Before he can go to Congress right now. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.920 Four year old archery contestant. Yeah, that's all right, he said, 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:32.880 my friends. No, I'm in Vegas and it's exciting for 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:36.400 all of us. But Angela. He was very, very obviously 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:42.000 carrying on his chest the Almighty Cross. I understand that 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.760 there's some some conflict right now between. 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.320 The Cross, between the Antichrist and the pope. So let's 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:52.600 talk about that. Poblo said, he ain't never scared of 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.240 Donald Trump, and we're gonna go ahead and run that clip. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.840 I have no fear from your administration or speaking out 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:03.640 nullady about the message of the Gospel. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.400 And that's what I believe. I am called to know 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:08.560 what the church's called to do. 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:13.520 If we're not politicians, we're not looking to make foreign policies. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.040 He falls it with the safe perspective that he might 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.320 understand it. But I do believe, with permission of the Gospel, 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.520 the blessed of the peacemakers is the message that the war. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:23.960 Needs to hear. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.200 Kim, blessed are the peacemakers. 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.520 And speaking of those who do not make any piece whatsoever, 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.400 it won't even apologize Donald Trump, let's throw that. 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.480 No, I don't, because Popolio said things that are wrong. 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.559 He was very much against what I'm doing with with 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.720 regard to Iran, and you cannot have a nuclear Iran. 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.960 Popolio would not be happy with the end result. You 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.040 have hundreds of millions of people dead. That is not 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.560 going to happen, So I can't. I think he's very 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:57.679 weak on crime. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:08:59.079 And other things. 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.080 So I'm not he went public. I'm just responding to 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.200 Pope Leo. And you know, his brother is a big 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.400 maga person and he's a great guy, Lewis, And I said, 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.200 I like Lewis better than I like the Pope. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:16.520 So he is referring to this particular post from the Pope. 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.200 He's basically saying he started it, so I had to 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.560 finish it. So this is what the Pope had to say. 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.400 God does not bless any conflict anyone who is a 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.400 disciple of Christ, the Prince of Peace is never on 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.160 the side of those who once wielded the sword and 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.920 today drop bombs. Military action will not create space for 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.080 freedom or times of peace, which comes only from the 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:44.840 patient promotion of coexistence and dialogue among peoples. So Pope 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.120 Leo was like, listen here, a friend. I don't know 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:48.640 what type of time you want, but me and you 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.839 ain't reading the same kind of scriptures. And Donald Trump 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:52.760 was like, I ain't apologizing. You don't know what you're 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:53.640 talking about. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:54.160 And this is it. 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:59.760 He is weak on crime, as if that is what 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.000 Pope Leo is supposed to be about. So I'd love 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.040 to hear you all thoughts about the Pope from the 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:06.720 South side of Chicago and Donald Trump. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:12.280 Man, I'm taking I'm taking the Pope over missions over 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.160 mister two Corinthians and the man that got the man 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.560 that got five kids by three baby mamas. I'm just take. 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.160 I'm just gonna take the Pope in this debate right here. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.800 Who you got, who you got? Who you got? I 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:24.319 don't know. 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:28.200 I mean, really, that's South Dakota. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.600 Donald Trump represents a version of white Christianity that is 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.319 every bit as real and valid as Pop Leo's. Honestly 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.959 for being real, like Pope Leo can sit on a 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.120 on a plane and criticize Trump's barbaric approach to foreign 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.320 policy as he threatens to kill ninety million people, but 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.959 that plane was going to Africa, where he planned to 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.200 spread the evangelical gospel to the black people who have 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.760 been who have had, you know, a terrible history with 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.200 white people traveling from their homes and telling them about divinity, 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.520 right like, there's a soft there's a violence, a soft violence, 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.360 and how Christianity has spread throughout black people in the 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.000 in the world. So I don't know, I see two 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:05.520 white Christians going at it. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:06.600 Oh my, oh my. 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:09.640 Scripture at the beginning of this show. 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.760 I'm culturally Christian, but I have deep critiques of how 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:17.439 white supremacy, American Christianity and politics played like that. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.959 But also I also think that I also think that 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.840 that uh uh, Donald Trump uses Christianity as political currency. 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:28.520 He's not a I don't I don't find him to 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.719 be a Christian. I mean, I'm not pushing back on 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.480 your analysis, but to equate them as the as kind 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.280 of the same, I think has given Donald Trump too 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:35.840 much credit. 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:40.240 Well, they're not. They're not the same. Yeah. I also 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.360 think it's important to I mean, all of us are 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:49.600 part of institutions, organizations, lives, communities, heritages, vestiges that were 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:54.160 born out of really soiled beginnings that we have had 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:58.920 to bend and break and in some cases rebuild to 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:03.800 to to better fit a more humane condition that I 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:08.200 think we if we were born with we're not how 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.720 do you say vested with that? We had to fight 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.280 back and sort of been to our wild over time. 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.839 So I understand the historical piece of this, but that 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.319 I don't. I don't see the brilliance. I don't see 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.720 the smarts in this. I don't see you know, the 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.640 Pope said he wasn't throwing shade because I ain't gonna 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.720 put shade on the pope. But he basically said Donald 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.960 Trump is not going to understand this because I'm not 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.760 speaking in ways that he would understand, which. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:31.080 Is my way. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.680 It's very clear, right you're talking. And then J D Vance, 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.080 who is I mean it says he's a and he's 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.439 still online for Catholicism or. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.640 Did he just yet he became he became a Catholic 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.240 in twenty nineteen if I'm not okay, So. 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:46.520 Did you say online like is a fraternity? 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:51.560 Well, I mean as transaction, so I have to have 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.679 to meet him in come. But but but basically decided 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.520 that he was going to chastise the Pope and inform 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.960 him of how he should make sure that his comments 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:04.480 are in line with church dictum and scripture. And I'm 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:10.240 thinking you, okay, are going to school the Vicar of Christ, 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:16.560 the Bishop of Rome, the leader worldwide of Catholicism, and 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.880 what it means to base his critique in scripture. The 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.840 same people who are part of a party who won't 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.800 even walk in the light of their faith, they transact 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:32.280 scriptures like they were putting on underwear. Today. We're going 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.800 to hold fast to an eye for an eye, but 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:41.079 we would do nothing for God bless the peacemakers right 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.599 that they want to dismiss or what we're doing to 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.520 the poor, the least of these that they will dismiss, 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:51.160 but they'll grab fastly to the scripture that best you know, 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.079 suits their current political situation. And all I just want 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.160 to say is that our religious leaders, regardless of what 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.280 faith you may have, are generally respected and are kind 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.199 of left to their devices so long as they are 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.640 spreading what might be known as goodwill. But this, I 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.079 think this president has transgressed in a way that he's 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.440 going to come to regret, especially we consider the Catholics 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:13.920 are the ones that helped to keep him and put 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.600 him in office, and now they're turning against him. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:18.160 I agree with that. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.960 I know we're not going to stay on this forever. 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.640 I just I think you know, you said, the leader 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:26.600 worldwide of Christianity or Catholicism, how did Christianity find itself 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.560 worldwide at the tip of a spear? 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:29.160 Most times? 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.920 Right, like the adoption of That's true, adoption of Christianity 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:37.000 has been incredibly violent. And we can have a soft 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.120 voice Pope Leo who is from the South side of 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.320 Chicago or the Chicago shoutout, who can kind of front 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:46.240 for a soft introduction to Christianity to people across the world. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.480 But we know how Christianity got here in the first place. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.480 And Donald Trump looks like white American Christianity to me, 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:52.440 but he. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:56.640 Could also be facilitating a different tradition of the church, 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.960 one that sees because he's Yes, he's the South side Chicago. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.080 Yes he may present as a white American, but he 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:08.880 spokes from Louisiana. Understand that they also have black roots. 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:11.680 And I don't want to deny him that, But I'm 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.640 also I'm also not going to sign him a history 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.880 that he may or may not have embraced for himself. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.040 You know, what we might need to embrace this on 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:20.800 the mini pod because we go along. 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.680 That is, but you know what faith chands to do 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:24.440 that to us. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.280 You are not going to rush you, ord I'm not 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:27.920 going to rush this faith discussion. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:33.120 Well, I'm just saying, twenty minutes into the show, we got. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.920 Except one more thing we gotta do, Bekare, and that 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.360 is I understand that preparations and plans are underway for 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.360 potential change at the High Court. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.440 Man. That's the scariest thing that we're going to talk 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.800 about today. People. The United States Senate is doing something 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.680 that nobody's really talking about right now, but they are 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:57.200 prepared to confirm Justice Alito's replacement before the midterm elections. Doc. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.640 People need to realize what month is this April, So 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:04.480 that's me June, July, August, September, October. So in over 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:08.080 the next six months, they plan on narrowing down, widowing down, 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.560 making a choice, having the President nominate and then confirm 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:15.000 a new justice. This is both good news and bad news. 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.400 The bad news is it's going to transform the court 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:22.040 for another twenty years. Right. The good news, though, Andrews, 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.760 as what we talked about yesterday when we when I 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.280 put this in the chat, is that that means that 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.560 the Senate Republicans are scared that they may actually lose 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.360 the Senate, which for me has always been weird. And 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.360 it also brings me to a whole other thing. Shout 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.440 out to James Tero Leco and all those guys were 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:40.280 raising a lot of money. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.640 But let's focus on rat what's his name. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:49.800 Tero Rico, that's not his name. How you pronounce it, Man, 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.200 I'm gonna put him over there with Hesga, clearly. 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:55.920 Gonna do it. Jack up somebody last night. 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:57.200 Yeah, but don't. 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.840 You know what I'm talking about. Hey, if y'all don't 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.800 start focusing on Ohio and North Carolina and focus on 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.359 winning those and flipping those seats, then were chasing this 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.840 fool's gold again. But back to the headline, y'all them courts, 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:15.200 Some courts are important. 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.600 It's funny, do you say Republicans who said Obama could 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.280 not get a justice confirmed in a whole year plus 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.639 and left in a term, and now they're going to 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.000 move six months and put somebody in there. Joshua, I 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.080 know you got thoughts on this because you be watching 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:29.200 the numbers. 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.040 Yeah, I mean Macari kind of touched on it. I 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.840 think it's all kind of downhill from Trump's approval rating 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.639 right now. I really believe if Trump's below forty percent 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.840 on a generic ballot, then it won't take much for 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.520 any Democratic candidate in North carol North Carolina, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.800 to achieve more than what their generic ballot would be, 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.560 which would give us three seats. So I heard all 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.480 of that and just thought, they think that we're going 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:56.679 to win back the Senate. 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.680 There it is Angela. Yes, we always to talk about 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.000 the nation's capital as being the center of the universe, 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.600 but things happen outside of Washington, d C. And you 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.760 don't have to go far from the center of Washington 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:11.679 to find real change happening. 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.160 What do you got, absolutely, I just want to shout 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.440 out our good brother and friend, the Mayor of Baltimore, 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:19.840 who was also newly elected as the president of the 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.760 African American Mayor's Association. He is chiming in with a 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:28.080 video about the new record low homicide rate in Baltimore. 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.199 It is the lowest in fifty years. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.119 There were one hundred and thirty three homicides in twenty 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:37.880 twenty five, and the next lowest year is nineteen sixty 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.040 five with one thirty one. So I want to roll 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.560 this clip from Brandon from Mayor Scott. 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.640 Peace, Native Lamdpartist. Mayor Brandon Scott from the Great City 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.320 of Baltimore, just wanted to update you all on where 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:51.159 we're staying with our public safety progress in Baltimore, and 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.200 the truth is that we're continuing the historic progress we've 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.080 made over these past few years. Over the last five years, 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.879 homicides and shootings and fell in Baltimore by sixty percent. 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.760 Homicides felt by plus thirty percent last year, setting a 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.719 fifty years low one hundred and thirty three homicides, and 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.080 right now today through this point in April, we are 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.760 on pace to beat those numbers from last year, and 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.560 when they do it in a comprehensive way with CBI 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:19.600 Community Violence Intervention, having our police officers focus on guns, 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.479 the gun traffickers, and the very few people that are 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.400 committing violence in our city and making sure that we're 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:29.320 investing in our community because it's not just shootings and homicides. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:33.760 Robberies are down fourteen percent in Baltimore, carjackings are down forty. 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:34.440 Percent in Baltimore. 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.280 Burglaries are down, and the comprehensive way that we are 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.680 attacking this disease of gun violence is something that we're 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:40.479 going to continue to do. 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:41.080 Peace. 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.280 Thank you so much Brandon for sending that video in, 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:46.960 and we do congratulate you on all of the luring 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.399 of the crime rates. One thing that he texted to 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:51.800 me that I think is important to mention is he says, 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.080 in two thousand and five, under then Mayor O'Malley, the 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.040 city had two hundred and sixty nine homicides and arrested 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:02.160 more than ninety three thousand people. Under Brandon, in twenty 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:04.800 twenty five, again one hundred and thirty three homicides with 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:10.119 seventeen thousand arrests, significantly fewer arrests and less homicides. So 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.160 thank you all so much. To Darth Vader, who's breathing 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:14.159 in the microphone, shout out to you. You have the 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:15.479 floor back. I think that's Andrew. 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:19.160 No. I wish I'm floored. I'm floord at those numbers. 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.639 I mean, reference O'Malley's arrest numbers one more time, and 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:24.280 then Brandon's fleet, I mean Mayor Scott's. 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.399 Oh okay, let me go back to my screen again. 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.720 So O'Malley two hundred and sixty nine homicides. This was 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:34.160 in two thousand and five with ninety three thousand arrests. 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:37.760 That's pretty substantial compared to the number of homicides and 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:42.639 then one hundred and thirty three homicides under Brandon with 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.120 seventeen thousand arrests. 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:47.679 Josh for you know the numbers, but that's like an 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.440 eighty percent or circ increase. And the arrest I mean, 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.840 that's incredible. I got to tell you, as a mayor 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.240 who focused also on reducing crime when I was the 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.760 mayor of the city, tallhasse that stuff is not hard. 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.679 I mean it's not easy. It's painstaking work. It is 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:08.160 you know, the time commitment and you scratching your head 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:10.960 and turning over the plan and writing a new one 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:13.919 and adjusting and trying to convince yourself to stay with it, 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.200 stay with it, give it time, let it breathe. While 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.040 the papers right edatorials left and right about what you 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.480 aren't or are not doing, or right or wrong. I 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:27.879 just want to salute the mayor because that's real work. 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.760 I know he doesn't do it by himself, but it 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:35.320 certainly starts with leadership. So hats off to you and 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.840 your community colleagues who work with you to make that happen. 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:39.359 Can I just say real quick too, not only is 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.280 he not doing it by himself, he's doing it under 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.840 a Trump administration, a federal government that's going to be 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:48.119 taking away the things that help reduce that's filing crime, right, Like, 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.679 the social and economic determinants of crime have im proven 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:54.600 when you take away snap benefits and Medicare and medicaid like, 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:57.800 crime rates usually go up. So his declining crime rate 0:21:57.920 --> 0:21:59.920 during this time period is twice as impressive. 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:03.159 That's very trop I mean, let's let's be clear, so 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:05.840 people want to know. I mean it's not you don't 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:09.240 just reduce crime by you know, blinking twice or saying 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:12.360 you're gonna do it right or you know. It's it's 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:15.760 the holistic approach that he's taking to reducing crime. It's 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.359 making sure you have summer work programs. It's making sure 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:21.159 that you have after school programs. It's making sure you 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:24.040 have things like midnight basketball. It's making sure that you 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.880 have things like job opportunities for people. Because when people 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.720 are broke, they commit crime, right, I mean, they gonna 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:31.720 make them and meet. You just don't want them to 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:35.359 meet in your house, right, And so it's all the 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:37.440 things that he's doing that we have been talking about 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.800 so long, and he's doing it in collaboration. I love 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.959 how josh pointed out the fact that he's doing it 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:47.560 without the cooperation of Donald Trump. But he is doing 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:50.600 it with the cooperation of somebody in Annapolis and Wes 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:53.120 Moore who is putting in place, and they're working as 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:55.920 a tandem. Because for a long period of time, you know, 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:59.919 the folk on Fox News would always use Baltimore as 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:05.399 this bastion of white hyper criminality. Right, you black folks 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:07.600 can't get right. It's a blue city, blah blah blah, 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.840 blah blah. And then now we're seeing this and they 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:14.119 acquiet as a church mouse pissing on cotton, and you 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.119 can't hear them say nothing about the good work that 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.080 Brandon is doing. So thank you for lifting them up, 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:19.200 Madam Angela. 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:23.800 I try here here, I keep referencing Joshua in the numbers. 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:25.919 I hope I said in his intro that he's also 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:30.320 on the leadership team there at at Hitch Strategies, which 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:35.959 many of us know as a leading polar polling firm 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:40.080 surfacing all communities. But to say, with particular note polling 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:43.480 blacks and getting pretty accurate, dead on target numbers around 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:47.159 how we're feeling, what we're thinking, how we're voting, what 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:50.520 excites us and what doesn't excite us. So, Brandon, I 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.480 know we've got a topic from you coming up. Will 0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:54.600 you be able to dig in and envelop some of 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:57.879 that for our listeners. But before we get there, I understand, 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:04.120 h Angela, I think it is nocar. I'm sorry that 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:07.840 that the Department of Justice. Uh, since the ousting of 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:13.840 Pam Mula Bandi still hasn't changed the stripes. It's still 0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:17.680 doing some real racist throwback stuff. Yeah. 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.120 I mean, but the racism they're doing is is kind 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.720 of okay by me because they're not hiding it. I 0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.200 like my race. I like my racist to be out 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:34.000 front over don't be no crent races. I want you 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:46.560 to be loud with it. So Todd blanche and and 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:49.280 the boys over there at the Justice Department, they've decided 0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:53.119 that they're going to vacate the seditious conspiracy convictions of 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:58.600 the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys in major January sixth cases. 0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:04.960 I don't know if you all truly understand, Like, I 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:06.840 have a theory about this that I'll just share with 0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:10.480 you quickly, like the top line of it. But America's 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:13.280 always had a problem, and we ended up here because 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:18.280 we never punished the Confederates right and after the Civil 0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:23.040 War we let traders roam free without any punishment. Then 0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.879 you know they do Jim Crow right. Then you know 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:31.439 they are January sixth. Now they're in the White House. 0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.119 And I just say that we've never punished Confederates and 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.240 we still ain't doing it today. And the January sixth 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.800 rioters are some of the most treasonous, traitorous people that 0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:41.560 we've ever seen walk the face of the earth. 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:43.399 That's rue. 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.119 I think we should roll this footage since Nick requires 0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:49.080 a throw. 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:53.000 It's for Wearing's advice. 0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:57.600 There's probably about three hundred Proud Voice their marching eastbound 0:25:58.440 --> 0:25:59.440 in this corner. 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.680 For those of you listening, we're just reviewing the footage 0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:06.160 that was shown to the January sixth Special Committee. You're 0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:09.720 watching Proud Boys, oathkeepers and others march towards the capital 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:16.439 before they take it over. And we've seen this, you know, 0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.200 a gazillion times before, so we don't have to rehash 0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:20.800 all of it. But we thought it was important to 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.359 remind you of what they were accused of doing. 0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:25.800 What we can see with our own eyes. 0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:30.280 Exactly, so we know that this is ridiculous that they 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.000 would even consider throwing out these charges. 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:36.159 Also, there's that I think you can go ahead and 0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:37.159 cut it in, you can take it that. 0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.639 But you know, the one one quick thing is like, 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.440 you can't tell me that there was no element of 0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:47.240 racism involved in January sixth when people were literally running 0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:49.840 through the Capitol with the Confederate flag. And the second 0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:53.680 thing is they were beaten cops asses like they were 0:26:53.920 --> 0:27:00.239 literally hauling off back the blue, That's exactly. And so 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:04.280 I for me, it's just this is a fascinating kind 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.720 of upside down that we live in, right. I mean, 0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.040 it's just a weird whether or not we're talking about 0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.959 the GOP being God's only party and not doing anything 0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.080 god like, or the GOP backing the blue and then 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:17.240 partning everybody that was out there beating their ass, Like, 0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:18.720 I don't know what world we're living now. 0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.720 The subservice is always to white supremacy, to perpetuating the 0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.240 mantle white supremacy. That's why eighty eight percent of white 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:31.120 Evangelic culture Christians voted against Reverend Rafael Warnock. Right, That's 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:34.479 why eighty eight percent of white Evangelical Christians voted against 0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:39.840 the pastor of Martin Luther King's Church, because it wasn't 0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.840 about their politics. It wasn't even about Christianity. It was 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.520 about who was going to perpetuate the mantle of white supremacy. 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.280 And we see the same here with how they are 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.560 willing to let cop beaters and such off the hook. 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.639 And as we learned at what points what made y'all actually, 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.560 y'all got a lot of bars in these past couple 0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.520 of topics. Y'all need some shirts and stuff? 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.800 Yeah, ok, what I got on? Lik at my shirt. 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:07.040 We don't negotiate with races there it is. I hope, 0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:11.000 I hope you getting the proceeds. But but as established 0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.359 through the January sixth Commission, we have to remember what 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:18.080 the strategic role the Proud Boys had in the planning 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.760 and the preparation and the execution of what occurred on 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.720 January sixth. They were the paramilitary force. They were the 0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.040 tip of the spear that was intended to go in 0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:33.840 create as much havoc violence level whatever opposition stood in 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.880 their way to include the blue the law enforcement officials 0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.400 and the Capitol police, who were the only thing between 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:42.600 them and them killing or capturing members of Congress of 0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.960 the United States, Senate, the Vice President of the United States. 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.800 They were there strategically for the purpose of playing the 0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.920 playing the role of the of the of of of 0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.000 of the force. They were the force, uh to to 0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.600 to make that mission be a successful as it was. 0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.320 And to see this administration again going to great lengths 0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:08.400 to be apologists for the white supremacy, supremacy that they've 0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.400 ushered in. And I got to tell you, you got 0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:14.640 to check out this New Yorker article about Nick Quintez 0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:18.000 and his whole crew, because if we think this is 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:24.400 age appropriated and not deeply ingrained in the body of 0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:29.040 these people, such that young people, kids, eighteen year olds, 0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.960 sixteen year olds, fourteen year olds are taking on these 0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:35.200 ideas in this romanticized view of what America once was, 0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:39.080 and they refer to themselves as the natives, the natives 0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:43.760 of his land. I mean, it's incredible, but the urgency 0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:47.520 by which they are moving against us, and I say 0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:53.640 us us, but also us democracy America is mind boggling. Joshua, 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:57.520 I'd love for you to carry us into what I 0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:03.360 hope isn't a transgressing of our brothers their direction. But 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.479 share with us some illuminating points that you've learned around 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.480 satisfaction with the Trump administration from potentially some black. 0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.600 Yeah, not the best news, but Hit Strategies conducted a 0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:17.000 poll and found that seventeen percent of Black men under 0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.400 the age of fifty actually say that they feel like 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:24.719 Donald Trump's policies have helped them personally. Now, one thing 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.080 I want to acknowledge is we are talking about a 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:30.440 smaller percentage of black folks. Right, We're not just talking 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.480 about seventeen percent of Black people as a whole. We're 0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.760 talking about black I'm sorry, those black men under fifty. 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.560 So it is a small percentage of the electorate, but 0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.560 it's still an alarming percent that do not see Donald 0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.200 Trump as hurting them. 0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:49.440 That's incredible. And what do we know about what they 0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.400 consider to be helpful to them personally? 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:52.680 Is this taxes? 0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:56.800 Is this immigration policy? 0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:57.320 Yeah? 0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.320 You know, I think this goes back to what to 0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:03.280 Angela's point, where you know, we're talking about things like 0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.080 that are happening in these cities in Baltimore and Chicago 0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:10.640 investment into the community violence intervention programs interrupted programs that 0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.280 are actually paying dividends. I think one of the things 0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.320 that hit we want to go into is do people 0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.480 actually see the delineation between things that are happening in 0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.760 their life that are coming from their uh, their mayor 0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:25.160 Brandon Johnson's of the world, or you know, are they 0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.760 attributing some of those things to President Trump? But I 0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.640 also think that this is probably just a also a 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:33.600 big few to the to the Democratic Party. I think 0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.160 the party has a branding issue and young black men 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:40.680 are looking to go somewhere else, and we need to 0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:42.720 address it the parties. 0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:44.160 That's the question I got. 0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:50.840 Like, but. 0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.520 Where they live, Like they go to South Dakota. 0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:04.120 You know some of them, though, y'all are influenced by 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:08.240 people who are paid operatives of the Republican Party in Maga. 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.120 I think that what you're going to start to see 0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:13.360 a lot more of are the ways in which the 0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:16.080 people have been influenced by people who are paid to 0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:19.160 tell them something. So there was a video that dropped 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.640 last week from one of Elon Musk's baby Mama's about 0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.400 how the Republican Party goes on and gets like lifestyle 0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:28.840 influencers and pays them. There's another guy cannot think of 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.720 his name. It's like Dom Luker or something. 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:36.440 D you see actually black? Oh shit, I don't know, 0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:40.520 but I I know, but I just saw that. No, no, no, 0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.880 I saw that to be his abby. I didn't know. 0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.160 No, no. He's been on air at Fox now. 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.400 Could he have appeared on air on Fox's AI perhaps, 0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:52.120 But like he's literally getting dragged right now by people 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:52.600 who are. 0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.040 Talking about how much money he gets paid per post. 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.680 Like he gets paid like six thousand dollars for a retweet, 0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.560 fifteen thousand dollars for an original post, et cetera. So 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:04.120 he's been getting amplified on Twitter. He shows how much 0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:07.520 money he's made on Twitter in a last year. That's 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:11.200 almost three hundred thousand dollars just engaging in this way. Yeah, 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.840 we need to really pull that stuff. But my point 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.840 in saying that is there are people who think they 0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:21.479 are being influenced by freethinkers when free thinkers are in 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:26.360 fact paid actors, right and not disclosing that they are 0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:30.720 paid influencers. Because you can circumvent the rules if the 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.880 campaign pays a strategy firm, and then the strategy firm 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:38.360 pays these people as subcontractors, they don't have to disclose 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:39.959 it in a certain way. I hope the law changes 0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:42.800 around that, but for now we know that Twitter is 0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:47.800 you know, an abyss welling. 0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.040 Your your hometown, Joshua. There were I think there were 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:53.719 municipal races where they had discovered that these influencers, who 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:56.920 many of which were coming from outside of the city 0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:01.680 of Chicago, posting not pro ads for a candidate they 0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:06.880 support it, but just doing teardowns, just doing negative advertisements 0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:13.680 against UH challengers for candidates for a particular office. And 0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.960 when these folks were followed up with by the mainstream press, 0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.239 they started distancing themselves. I didn't know what this I 0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.799 didn't know what this was, D D D. I wasn't No, 0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:25.160 I don't know her personally, No, I haven't followed her politics, 0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:26.560 so on and so forth. So I thought, I just 0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:30.520 thought that transparency, that layer of local transparency to help, 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.680 you know, fish some of these people out, was really helpful. 0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:35.839 But we got to recognize that this tactic is not 0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.120 just one that's being implored sort of UH in a 0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:45.520 worldly way or geographically nationally but it's seeping into local races, 0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.439 these school board races where the writer is fighting hard 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.719 to take over you know, education policy. They can ban 0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:55.800 more books and and ban educating of black history. But 0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.200 but that this thing is showing up on every single 0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:02.080 part of the turf. As we transition to our main topic, 0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:03.839 I just wanted to throw one more in here, and 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:07.640 that is that we've got one of the scions the 0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:12.120 leaders on the on the left, Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, who 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:17.560 is making a really interesting argument uh to uh, to democrats, 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.719 to progressives, of those who are trying to build an 0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:23.520 anti Trump coalition, And I'm interested to hear what y'all 0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:25.480 think on the other side of these comments. 0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:28.000 I was reading an article today about your comments on 0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:31.400 a major Marjorie Telegreen and the fact that we should 0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:34.960 have empathy for people like her who've realized all this stuff. Right, 0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:37.759 why do you get to that point, Like, why not 0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:39.400 just like leave her where she is and let her 0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:40.399 do what she thinks she's doing. 0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.400 Oh, I'm good to leave her where she is, let 0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:46.080 me do what she's doing. I guess why, Yeah, No, 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:50.480 I mean my point is this, if you were let 0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:57.600 stray and you are adult enough, honest enough to say 0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.839 I was wrong into believing that this was the right 0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:05.600 direction for our country. And I want to join you 0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:09.160 all because I now understand that you had it right. 0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:11.960 I'm like, welcome, right. 0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:15.000 I'm glad you finally got here because we believe that 0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:18.440 we are on the right side of history. Now, am 0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.160 I gonna be key keying with her? 0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:20.520 No? 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.080 So when you're when you're calling for Democrats to show 0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:25.359 grace to former Trump supporters, what is grace? 0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.719 I am not. Okay, No, it's not the Trump supporters. 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:30.359 That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if you had 0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.560 a change of heart in regards to power. 0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:34.600 What if you're a Trump supporter who had a change 0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:35.000 of heart. 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.120 Policy Okay, not, you know. I mean if your list 0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.680 chainey and you're like, I'm not voting for Trump, but 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:46.760 I will, I'll vote for Harris. But you still hold 0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:51.480 right the all of your policy views, the aligned with Trump. 0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:53.440 That means that means nothing to me. 0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:55.120 I don't So what about. 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:56.960 Former Trump supporters like the Marjorie Tailor Green. 0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.200 But if you were marginally tailed Green and you say, 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:04.120 this man is taking us to wars that will destroy 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.920 us and our resources in the future of our children. 0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:11.439 That is a policy position I have, Untie Woo, What. 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.600 Does grace look like without letting those people off the hook. 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:20.759 Grace looks like saying I agree when they make a 0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:27.600 policy point of view. Grace looks like not dismissing when 0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:33.520 somebody wants to join your coalition, not just as a 0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:37.480 voting block, but as an advocate for the policies that 0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:40.960 you believe will create a better world for all of us. 0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:47.120 Can I just say I appreciate Iohans grace, But I'm 0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.120 a scorpio, so my memory is long. So I just 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:54.399 want to refresh everyone's recollection on why Marjorie Taylor Green 0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:55.640 will always be a. 0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:59.360 Beach blonde badfield. Butch body please roll the clip. 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:05.800 The form of the resolution is as follows recognized censuring 0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:10.520 Representative Ilhan Omar of Somali, I mean, Minnesota cut. 0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:15.240 That's all we need to see. Raggedy broad Wow. Now 0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:19.880 I wanted to play that because she wasn't just offensive 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:23.759 to Ilhan as she sought her censure for God only 0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:27.720 knows what reason. She wasn't just offensive when she said 0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:29.880 that she needed to be packing in the halls of 0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:34.719 Congress because she didn't trust terrorists quote unquote terrorists like 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.640 Ilhan Omar and others of her colleagues who she was. 0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:41.840 She was always on the squad's ass. She wasn't just 0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:47.000 problematic when she was in congressional hearing rooms, the Oversight Committee, 0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:50.040 in particular, where she said to Jasmine Crockett she can't 0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:53.400 hear her over her eyelashes, which is where beach blonde 0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:57.279 bad built. Sorry, butch body came from. She did not 0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:59.719 have a Freudian slip on the House floor when she 0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.319 said Ilhan Omar from Somalia, I mean Minnesota. 0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:04.640 That was with intention, and so. 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:11.120 I appreciate the moral convenience that she now has of 0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.520 calling out Donald Trump. But you don't even have a 0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:15.360 vote in the House of Representatives anymore. 0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.040 So what good is that? What good is that? What 0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:19.160 are you actually doing? 0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:24.720 Did she meet herself? 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:25.880 You mute yourself? 0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:28.160 Oh, I'm sorry, I was so mad. I didn't hit 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:32.720 the mic. I was saying, I don't know, Look at okay, 0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:36.399 I would yield that if you really think that that's good. 0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:40.520 But I just will just say I will just say that. 0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.400 She's saying, well, if you agree on Ilhan says, if 0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:45.040 you agree with us on policy. 0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.719 Now, then we got some road to go. 0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:51.400 But the problem with the policy coalition that now sees 0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:54.560 the light, the policy coalition needs to still have a 0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.440 vote in Congress, and she has resigned, so that is 0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:59.520 of no use to us. You are of no, you're 0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.279 not even a transactional use to us. Again, as the 0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:06.680 Congressional Black Caucuss always says, no permanent friends, no permanent enemies, No, 0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.840 just permanent interests. We don't even have a permanent interest 0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.680 because there's nothing you can do but be on Twitter 0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.160 yapping all day, which is all she does. 0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:17.920 That's so I do that. I mean, I just think 0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:24.640 it's permanent. And that's what I was going to say. Elections. 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.640 Elections are about multiplication and addition. 0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.320 She still don't want y'all to have Medicare, Medicare, any 0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:34.760 type of Obamacare. She still don't want people on snap benefits. 0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:38.280 She still wants people deported, even if they are legally 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:40.240 in the United States. 0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:41.600 Where where is the interest? 0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:47.920 Is the interest just in Iran is just about. 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:48.520 Does she have to have interest in all of that? 0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:50.560 I hear, look, and I hear what you say, Like 0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:54.520 I think we all we all feel that same when 0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:55.480 I hang out with her. 0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:57.000 But like, does she have to have. 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.640 To destabilize portions of the Republican base that will allow 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:06.640 us to get back power at the midterms. I just think, 0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.680 like Blackfoot, we have we have too much to lose 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.040 to not be strategic in moments like this. In my opinion, 0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.839 I don't have no empathy for Marjorie Taylor Green. 0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:15.959 I have strategy. 0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:17.720 I have strategy. 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:23.319 Because our kids depend on us to be strategic over emotional, 0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:24.680 you know what I mean. And so that's kind of 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:25.040 where I. 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:25.600 Sit with it. 0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.680 I think I just talked about permanent interest. 0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:31.400 But I guess what I would love for you all 0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.799 to answer, since you all still see some earthly good 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:38.359 in his broad Please tell me what the interest is 0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.920 that she's accomplishing. Andrew, I heard you say defeating Donald Trump. 0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.320 She's gonna defeat Donald Trump with hot Twitter fingers. 0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:45.080 Where do you see her? 0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.000 No? No, no, let me let me ask you this. 0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:50.719 Let me ask you. Do y'all see her at a 0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:52.840 rally campaigning for John Austin. 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:54.759 Let me tell you I don't need her to do that. 0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:56.920 We don't need her to induce, don't we don't want 0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:58.879 we don't want that what we need her to do 0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.000 is to remind these people who's similar to her. And 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:04.600 I have to tell you, I do doubt how bamboozoo 0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:08.080 she was. I'm not convinced that this was a bamboozooing, right. 0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:12.440 I think there were some inconvenient disagreements that may have 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:15.480 put her on the outs that then were in furtherance 0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:18.360 of her going on the outs. For instance, indicating to 0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:20.880 Trump and his advisors that she wanted to run for governor, 0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:24.520 Trump responding, no, you do not want to run for governor, 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:25.960 and you will not run for governor of the state 0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:28.440 of Georgia, and her feeling some type of way about 0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.120 the man she's been so loyal to deciding to turn 0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.759 his back on her, and the timing being such that 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:38.040 her retirement coincided with her being vested with congressional retirement 0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.800 benefits because she just met the threshold the day before 0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:43.960 she decided to resign from Congress. So I think there's 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:45.640 some convenience built in there. But this is where I 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.440 think her additive value is. It is in that there 0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:50.879 are people who are similar to her, adjacent to her, 0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:55.000 who say they felt that Trump was going to carry 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:58.960 the banner of not compassion for immigrants, but getting them 0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.040 out of this country. I didn't want to see brutality 0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:03.640 on my television station. I wanted to see them loaded 0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:07.279 on planes and flown out of here. It is. I 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.400 expected to see America first, and that's not what we 0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:12.319 got because he's an international list and it's taken US 0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.399 dollars and spending them elsewhere. So she can go out 0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.000 and carry a message that she's she's deeply steeped in 0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:20.680 that she has credibility on with people who we need 0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:22.960 credible messages to be in front of to do one thing. 0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:25.120 As far as I'm concerned, because I don't think they 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:27.640 can be counted on to vote for Democrats. But those 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.000 who do have got, you know, go forth and do 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:32.759 great things. I think they can be counted on to stay. 0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:34.759 Destabilize them, to sit it out. 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.560 Yes, that's yeah. I think to say, I'm in the base, 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:39.279 we got a week in the base. I mean you 0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.120 gotta and I gotta remember we come up to seven 0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.919 that's seventy five million votes. I mean, if you can, 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.760 if you can weaken them, get them disenchanted, stay home, 0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.040 those type of things, get that number back down to 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.960 reasonable sixty nine you know, seventy you win, you win 0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:54.759 a presidency. 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.279 All of our minds will grown over Trump winning in 0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.640 sixteen because we did not expect the light turn out 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:04.439 to be supercharged, and he's supercharged at basi of white 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.800 voters who did not show up before, who all of 0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:09.680 a sudden showed up at the polls. 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.879 Non college educated white verse, which is what Marjorie Taylor 0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:18.279 Greens holds, influences white non college educated voters that didn't 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.839 participate in politics, and now they do, and they may 0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.200 be feeling a little politically homeless. As you said, all 0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:25.520 we need to do is just to stabilize them. 0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:27.839 I guess it's hard for me to. 0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:33.680 Argue for like to encourage, to encourage people to stay home. 0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:38.480 I would rather people be informed and do the right thing. 0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:40.960 And I think what's frustrating to me in this particular 0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:45.319 moment is if you put like do a pros and 0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:47.960 cons list, and Marjorie Taylor Green's pros and consless was 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:50.759 right here on the policy she supports. 0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:54.759 She is ninety nine point eight percent aligned. 0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:57.120 With the GOP that is still MAGA based, and so 0:44:57.360 --> 0:45:00.640 I just don't trust that she is is actually going 0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.560 to do the work of our interests that y'all are 0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:04.959 hoping she does. 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:06.560 She's not going to advance our interests. 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:11.040 I'm no exactly, but I don't think that she's even 0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.359 going to be that helpful. I think her points are 0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:17.400 strictly on Iran and Israel. I think that those are 0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.080 the only places where she is really hitting Trump, and 0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:22.520 then on her Christianity since she also hit him about 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.480 what he said on Easter, which was still related to 0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.640 the war and what he's doing around Jesus. 0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:32.040 So I guess she has credibility in that. But in 0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:35.600 every headline of from Fox. 0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.080 News US, it. 0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:41.759 Gets us in the ears of people who like her, 0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.640 believed in him, who are now being told by somebody 0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:47.160 that they trust that he is not what we thought 0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:48.040 we were getting. He is. 0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:49.960 He's not on the ballot for midterms. 0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:54.359 What is she getting us about it? 0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:58.520 No, he's not. I probably I think I've been all 0:45:58.600 --> 0:45:59.800 y'all five dollars, I got. 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:04.880 Five And the reason we are by thirty points and 0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.400 congressional districts where we were blown out by Trump, it's 0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.839 not because his name was on the ballot. It's because 0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:12.280 the Republican is on the ballot. 0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:15.680 Where she stands with them. I bet you she is 0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:17.520 not going to be out here throwing at the Republicans 0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:18.440 under I think. 0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:20.480 I think we have to put this in its proper context. 0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:22.839 We are not looking for a new ally, We are 0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.239 not looking for her to be a friend. She is 0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.960 not somebody that we're going to break bread with, say 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:30.400 prayers together with, because we're not going to pray for 0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:36.560 the same things as we fold our hands. If there 0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:38.680 is a God in her prayer, I don't know. So 0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:40.640 all I'm saying is is that those are not That's 0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:44.279 not where I'm placing my house. That is unsteady ground, 0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.640 the ground that I want her to play on. It 0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.240 don't have to include me or any candidate I support. 0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:52.600 It just needs to be to her people, to their people, 0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:55.600 who need to be reminded that they've been bembooz. 0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:56.520 Oh quote quote quote. I don't know. 0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.080 I don't really know. But if they believe it enough 0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:01.920 that they say, there's no sense in going back out 0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:04.160 and putting these people back in office because they're not 0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:06.240 going to do what they promised us in the first place. 0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:08.839 And I hear your point, Angela about not wanting to 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.439 have people sit home, But we're talking about elections here, 0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:13.880 they not only want us not to not sit home, 0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:16.239 we go out and vote, and then they still want 0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:18.880 to take our shit away. They want to steal our stuff. 0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:20.360 But I don't want to stay like them. 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.400 No, we're not being like them. We're saying, you know what, 0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.239 if you can't go in there and do the right thing, 0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:27.360 then sit your ass at home. If you can't go 0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:30.320 in there and vote for the Democrat who will advance 0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:35.840 your interests, whether you know it or not, then don't 0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:38.399 go in there and muck it up for the rest 0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:38.839 of us. 0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:41.600 I do agree with Angela in the sense of, like, 0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:44.880 even in having this conversation, there is a part of me. 0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:48.720 Maybe it's an older version of me that is uncomfortable 0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:57.160 like publicly talking about a strategy demobilize voters and so. 0:47:57.200 --> 0:47:58.759 Like they're doing the demobile. 0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:01.640 Agree with you. I just want to like make space 0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.440 for what Angela is saying, Like I hate that, I 0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:05.239 hate that I'm here. 0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:07.120 I don't like being here, you know. 0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:09.759 I think it is just out of my like my 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:13.479 deep longing to undo some of the damage that Donald 0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:15.600 Trump's dunt our communities that I can say something like 0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:18.440 that on the Native Land podcast. So I hear you, Angela, 0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:18.799 on that. 0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:20.120 I hear what you're saying too. 0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:22.000 I think that's fair, And you know, I wish that 0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:23.839 we again, maybe this should have been a mini pod 0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:27.120 topic too, but I wish that we we're at a 0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:29.799 place where it's like every vote counts, you have the 0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:32.480 right to have your vote counted, and while where I'm 0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:36.680 arguing that for you, you're working actively, as Andrew just said, 0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.399 to keep us in a position where we can't even 0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:41.560 get an ID, we can't even prove that we're citizens, 0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:43.840 can't even prove that this is our last name, and 0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:46.640 they have the save Acts on the Senate floor, you know, 0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:50.280 wavering like that's so that I understand exactly what you're saying. 0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:53.880 But to me, I never want to embody the type 0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.479 of power that has oppressed us in so many other 0:48:56.560 --> 0:48:59.279 people for so long. I want us to, you know, 0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:01.880 embody it different type of power, the one that's rooted 0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:02.279 in love. 0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:06.040 The differences, Angela is they have agency and deciding whether 0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:08.239 they want to go to the polls or not. It 0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:11.440 is not a system operating to suppress their vote. It 0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:14.239 is that they have made the decision that this isn't 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:17.280 working out for me. These candidates who I have traditionally supported, 0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:19.560 and I will not, over my dead body vote for 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:21.960 a Democrat. I'm going to choose to sit this up. 0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:23.239 By the way, I will tell you, if we were 0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:25.959 dealing with a more sophisticated voter base, I would say 0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:28.400 what I have done before. I have gone to the polls, 0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:31.359 I have gotten my ballot, I have signed my name, 0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:33.920 and then I pushed through that machine a ballot with 0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:36.920 no vote, no choice, and the race that I that 0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:40.720 I was allowed to vote in on that particular ballot. 0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:42.800 And that's because I didn't want to mess up my 0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:46.000 voting record of having perfect attendants and going in voting 0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:48.040 and being part of that process simply because I didn't 0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.680 like the choices that I had in the particular race. 0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:54.120 It's almost the same equivalent you will have me on 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:56.680 the polls is having gone and voted, but I will 0:49:56.719 --> 0:50:00.200 not have made a single choice in the race which 0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:01.799 I was able to choose. And by the way, that's 0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:03.360 legal in the process. 0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:06.520 Andrew Gillen would have been a great choice for mayor 0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:09.040 of Tallahasse. You should have cast a ballot for Shut that. 0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:13.680 Hell up, guys. We are moving this movingly before over 0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:16.200 to our topic that we wanted to spend just a 0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:18.480 little bit of time on, and and that is we've 0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.960 seen in the last uh several uh this last week, 0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:24.719 if you will, at least in one case, and that's 0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:29.759 Eric Swallwell, the Congressman from northern California who announced his 0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:31.680 resignation from the United States Congress. 0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:38.680 Nobody knows. 0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:45.560 In the other instance, Tony Gonzalez for months, the representative 0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:50.560 from from Southern Texas, who had admitted to having had 0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:52.960 an affair with his assistant who worked on his staff, 0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:56.759 an assistant who later went on to die by suicide. 0:50:57.840 --> 0:50:59.440 His case had been out there. 0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:02.840 For at the next sentence, because I think that deserves 0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:06.880 some context. She died by suicide by setting herself on fire. 0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:13.600 True statement, but mister Gonzales was not, however, up to 0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:17.800 this point, urged on by the Republican leadership to vacate 0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:22.120 his seat, despite the fact that the allegations levied against 0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:25.120 him were similar in some instances to to Aris Walwell. 0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.480 There is, of course the instance of Corey Mills, Republican 0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:35.200 from Florida, who has domestic violence open incidences that are 0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:41.319 recorded against him down and down in Florida, and has 0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:44.480 been under pressure and is now under ethics investigation by 0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:47.320 the Ethics Commission Committee of the of the United States Congress, 0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:51.560 and tangential to this uh And I would say it's 0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:54.880 only tangential to to to these instances of of of 0:51:55.160 --> 0:52:02.520 sexual abuse allegations in the sense that Sheila uh Scherfhalis McCormick, 0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:05.080 who is a Democrat from the state of Florida, my area, 0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:10.720 who actually took the seat vacated in the untimely passing 0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:15.720 of al Sie Hastings who held that seat prior to her, 0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:17.920 but as a member of Congress, and is accused of 0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:22.200 having stole five million dollars a few disaster funds and 0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:28.320 made hundreds I understand up to this point documented campaign 0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:34.719 finance mistakes or fraud claims in her reports. The reason 0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:37.080 why I say she's tangential to this is because it 0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:39.560 appears that the only way you can get the Republican 0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:43.120 leadership in Congress to move one of these bad players 0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:46.600 out of the Congress is if you can take down 0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:49.480 a Democrat at the same time as they lose a Republican. 0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:52.160 And this point has been made well by many members 0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.719 of Congress, but in the case of Eric Swalwell where 0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:58.560 these cases of now five at the time of our recording, 0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:05.080 claims of sexual abuse and rape allegations have been made 0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:08.680 against him. We've seen in some of the news coverage 0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:11.759 the comment being sort of very you know, sort of uh. 0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:14.399 I think you're responsibly thrown out that this has been 0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:19.000 a bad kept open secret uh in Washington for some time. 0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:22.399 His behavior and it really, I think, alarmed a number 0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:26.160 of us and causes us to ask the question. And 0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:29.839 I think it's manifold sys the questions of of what 0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.400 what is the dynamic of a relationship between a boss 0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:35.319 and a subordinate right and dealing with folks or having 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.080 an affair with people who are on your staff or 0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:40.640 ledged to what's the dynamic of of people in power 0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:45.040 in the rape culture that tends to and I think 0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:48.759 in some cases engulf them. And then I think there 0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:55.080 is the the the question around how we as a 0:53:55.120 --> 0:54:00.160 society deal with these allegations. And before there is process, yes, 0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:04.560 there is conclusion and an action on the conclusions that 0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:08.000 we draw. And I have particular issue with this which 0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:09.520 I love to get into after I hear from my 0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:12.439 colleagues here. But y'all, I know I didn't completely lay 0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:14.120 all of it out. But I think enough is there 0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:15.400 for us to describe. 0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:18.440 I think if we can just for context because some 0:54:18.520 --> 0:54:20.319 of what Andrew's reference are. 0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:24.840 There's some video. So there's a guy that we saw online. 0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:25.480 I don't know his name. 0:54:25.520 --> 0:54:28.240 I apologize, but I want to run this clip because 0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:32.680 he actually was criticizing Democrats for throwing out their nominees 0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:35.640 too soon. Interesting take, but let's let's hear it, not 0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:39.520 the eye roll Joshua ty Barnett, Okay, can we roll 0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:39.799 the clip? 0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:40.040 Nick? 0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:40.839 Thank you so much. 0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:44.080 This is why Democrats get looked at the way they do. 0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:47.680 You want Eric Swalwell to drop out over allegations, nothing proven, 0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:51.839 just allegations. It's insane to me that y'all are trying 0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:53.880 to hold people to a certain standard while we have 0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:56.560 a literal rapist as the head of the country, a 0:54:56.600 --> 0:54:59.800 literal rapist who got the job back after being convicted 0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:01.200 of right He got. 0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:03.440 Convicted and then was sworn in later. 0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:06.880 He got convicted of thirty four felonies and was sworn 0:55:06.960 --> 0:55:11.160 in later. We had Brett Kavanaugh, who had allegations during 0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:14.840 his confirmation hearing and got the job of Supreme Court 0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:18.480 justice lifelong deportment who actually helped the convicted rapists get 0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:22.839 back in power. We have Jim Jordan who helped cover 0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:25.840 for pedos and is still sitting in a position of 0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:27.800 power and almost has Speaker of the House. 0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:31.400 Am I saying don't believe any of the women, not 0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:31.799 at all. 0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:34.040 But what I'm saying is, can we have a trial, 0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:36.400 Can we get the thing to be proven? Can we 0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:38.799 have the evidence to be out there before we make 0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:42.920 this decision? Or only one side has to still pretend 0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:45.799 to be virtuous. This ain't the nineties, This ain't Bill 0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:48.000 Clinton lying about a bj were dealing with a full 0:55:48.080 --> 0:55:51.480 on fascist who is a pedo, who is a convicted grapist, 0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:54.720 would surrounded by other people who have been convicted of crimes. 0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:59.640 Y'all want Eric Swalwell though, to drop out over allegations. 0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:02.560 This is why people look at Democrats the way to do. 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:04.080 This is why they call y'all week. This is why 0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:07.080 they call y'all spineless. And what virtue are you signaling? 0:56:08.920 --> 0:56:11.720 Joe Biden had none of these scandals, none of them. 0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:19.080 You wanted him going after one debate. Kamalin Harris had 0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:23.560 none of these scandals, yet you still didn't want her 0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:27.480 in power. So what is it you're looking for? Let 0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:31.359 me tell you something real quick, talk about this type 0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:34.440 of ship I was. I was traveling last week. There 0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:37.920 was a lady working at the ticket counter airport and 0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:39.919 I said to her, I said, yeah, I'm just having 0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:45.799 a hard time believing that we have a pedo at 0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:46.279 the head off. 0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:49.040 She said, well, how does that affect your life? 0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:52.279 I said, how does it affect my life that the 0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:55.320 head of the country is a pedo and protecting other pedos? 0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:57.919 She said, yeah, how does that affect your everyday life? 0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:02.560 That conversations it's still with me today and the fact 0:57:02.560 --> 0:57:04.879 that y'all are asking Eric Swalwell to drop out over 0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:08.640 allegations when we have average citizens that are telling me 0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:11.440 I shouldn't give that the head of the country is 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:13.719 a suspected pedo protecting other pedles. 0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:15.000 Make it make sense. 0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:17.439 I understood that point. I think you should under say 0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:18.520 what people make allowance for. 0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:23.240 Okay, So just really quickly here, I want to make 0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:25.680 sure that I'm fair to this brother and saying he 0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:30.640 put this video out before the allegations. The latest allegations 0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:34.760 against Eric Swalwell in the Beverly Hills Hotel room came out, 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:39.680 not that it would change his position. I'm happy to 0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:41.920 respond to that this, but I'm also happy to yield. 0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:43.600 And if y'all want to roll the other clip of 0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:45.160 the allegations, we can or we can wait. 0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:45.720 It's up to y'all. 0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:46.400 Please no, please. 0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:51.160 I think this is some of the dumbest shit I've 0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:53.840 ever heard in my life, and the reason for that 0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:59.640 is I don't ever want us to be holding ourselves 0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:01.800 to this same standard as Donald Trump. 0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:03.880 I don't. 0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:07.960 When I was growing up, people asked us what we 0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:09.760 wanted to be when we grew up, and one of 0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:11.840 the things that some kids would say is the President 0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:15.919 of the United States. He has made a mockery of 0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:17.360 the highest office of the land. 0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:17.959 Number One. 0:58:18.280 --> 0:58:21.120 I don't want to encourage kids. You would tell kids 0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:24.240 all the time, cheaters never win, and we're watching this 0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:28.520 man win over and over again electorally beating the criminal 0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:33.280 justice system, when we have brothers incarcerated, sisters incarcerated, who 0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:36.080 are sitting behind bars for stuff they didn't even do. 0:58:36.560 --> 0:58:37.840 You know, we talked about Sheila. 0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:40.440 I don't think she should be serving in Congress, but 0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:43.400 this woman is facing fifty three years in prison for 0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:44.840 something Donald Trump did. 0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:46.400 Over and over and over again. 0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:49.880 So I don't want us to say, like this is 0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:53.800 the gold star standard. Let us turn our eyes to 0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:58.640 people who have clear moral corruptibility and turn our eyes 0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:01.520 away from that and just you know, hold our nose 0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:04.840 and do the thing that's that's that's in our interests. 0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:08.600 And I can't say that somebody with all these allegations 0:59:08.600 --> 0:59:11.520 who's done all these things is in my best interest, 0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:13.960 or even the fact when he was like what the 0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:15.600 woman said, what does that have to do with you? 0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:18.560 I don't want someone who turns a blind eye to crime, 0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:23.160 who's violating the emolument's clause, who calls people human beings, 0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:25.720 rapists and drug dealers to whom he does not know, 0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:29.680 who is sending people all over the world, whether they 0:59:29.720 --> 0:59:31.520 are legal, have legal status here or not. 0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:35.280 I don't want us to aspire to that. That's my issue, 0:59:35.320 --> 0:59:36.920 and so for me. 0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:41.200 Should there be more due process, yes, but also it 0:59:41.240 --> 0:59:45.680 should be fairly applied across the board, without regard regard 0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:48.680 to partisanship or whether or not somebody A or B 0:59:48.920 --> 0:59:51.640 is your favorite member or not. We've talked a lot 0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:54.520 about what was going on with Eric Swalwell. The worst 0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:57.400 kept secret is that he was a hoe. It was 0:59:57.440 --> 0:59:59.360 not that the worst kept secret was that he was 0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:02.080 sexually as people. I still don't know that to be 1:00:02.160 --> 1:00:04.800 fat I don't believe this woman is making this stuff 1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:06.919 up or these other young women made this stuff up. 1:00:07.320 --> 1:00:09.760 But I think that there is nuance and layers to that, 1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:12.120 and I think that there should be consequence based on 1:00:12.200 --> 1:00:15.600 the severity of the issue. But I don't agree that 1:00:15.640 --> 1:00:20.680 we should be modeling ourselves and our political practices off 1:00:20.720 --> 1:00:24.560 of the Republican Party. I just don't. To me, they 1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:28.960 are like the worst examples of grown ups right now. 1:00:32.320 --> 1:00:34.360 I think that the position has to be nuanced in 1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:37.959 this discussion, and I think that you added a very 1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:41.920 robust nuance to take. And I think that the reason 1:00:41.960 --> 1:00:44.000 this show is good is because we can have these 1:00:44.080 --> 1:00:47.720 layered discussions, whereas sometimes on Twitter or Instagram people give 1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:51.840 you these hot takes that don't necessarily encapsulate the gravity 1:00:51.880 --> 1:00:55.400 of the matter. Like my overarching theme is you cannot 1:00:55.520 --> 1:00:59.840 let them make you them right, And I think that's 1:00:59.840 --> 1:01:02.240 what you were saying to a certain degree, Angela, like 1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:05.360 we cannot become them in terms of our moral and 1:01:05.400 --> 1:01:08.280 ethical fiber. On the flip side. I can also say 1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:10.960 that I was wrong about al Franken. I think I 1:01:11.040 --> 1:01:13.040 was a part of that growing chorus that said that 1:01:13.080 --> 1:01:18.720 al Franken should president resign. That was punny that he should, 1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:22.600 that he should resign because of a picture that was taken. 1:01:22.720 --> 1:01:25.200 I mean al Franken should probably this day, I mean 1:01:25.200 --> 1:01:26.920 hopefully he would have retired because of his age, but 1:01:26.960 --> 1:01:28.360 we know that's not the case, still be in the 1:01:28.440 --> 1:01:32.919 United States Senate. And so you can have those nuanced takes. 1:01:32.920 --> 1:01:35.000 And I think that when you're looking at Eric Swallwell, 1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:37.480 and I said this yesterday and this may be kind 1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:40.720 of my legal brain working in buckets, you have to 1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:43.560 look at what Angela talked about him being a hope 1:01:43.680 --> 1:01:46.520 in one bucket. You have to look at sexual assault 1:01:46.520 --> 1:01:48.720 in another bucket, and you have to look at impropriety 1:01:48.800 --> 1:01:53.600 with staffers in another bucket. And I think that you 1:01:53.720 --> 1:01:55.960 have one is him being a hoe. You have one 1:01:55.960 --> 1:01:58.280 that is extremely criminal and you belong under the jail, 1:01:58.320 --> 1:02:00.720 and the other is unethical and you have your own 1:02:00.760 --> 1:02:03.880 series of ethical issues with that, and so I think 1:02:03.880 --> 1:02:06.640 you have to be willing to analyze these things with that, 1:02:06.760 --> 1:02:09.240 and you talk about evidence, the most clear cut evidence 1:02:09.320 --> 1:02:12.320 actually is against Sheila McCormick. She got found guilty by 1:02:12.480 --> 1:02:17.360 a House, a bipartisan House Ethics committee of twenty five 1:02:17.400 --> 1:02:19.160 of the twenty seven counts that they said it was 1:02:19.160 --> 1:02:21.320 more than clear and convincing evidence. It wasn't a witch 1:02:21.360 --> 1:02:24.400 on on one side or another. You talk about Corey Mills, 1:02:24.400 --> 1:02:29.440 his allegations are just are ridiculously dangerous. And you look 1:02:29.440 --> 1:02:31.600 at Turning Gonzalez and some of the things he was 1:02:31.640 --> 1:02:34.720 doing and the result of his actions, right, I mean, 1:02:34.800 --> 1:02:38.360 his case is almost more so about the result in 1:02:38.560 --> 1:02:41.200 just the horrific nature in which he put this woman 1:02:41.240 --> 1:02:43.080 through so much trauma that she felt like that was 1:02:43.080 --> 1:02:46.280 her only way out. And then Eric Swalwell is apparently 1:02:46.280 --> 1:02:51.160 somebody that none of us really knew. If those allegations 1:02:51.200 --> 1:02:55.040 are born to be true, now politically, nobody's going to 1:02:55.120 --> 1:03:00.760 go out here and practice a unilateral disarmament, Like ain't 1:03:00.760 --> 1:03:03.000 nobody just going it's too close in the in the 1:03:03.000 --> 1:03:06.080 halls of power. If you think, for people listening, if 1:03:06.080 --> 1:03:08.200 you think this isn't about power, at the end of 1:03:08.240 --> 1:03:11.080 the day, that is what that It's about power, And 1:03:11.120 --> 1:03:14.680 even more simply it's about math. Like Mike Johnson and 1:03:14.720 --> 1:03:16.840 the Kim Jeffries are in a room together looking at 1:03:16.880 --> 1:03:20.200 each other counting votes. It is about math, and so 1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:23.080 do you got to we got to we not unilaterally 1:03:23.120 --> 1:03:25.200 disarming kick them out so we. 1:03:25.320 --> 1:03:26.560 Know who is sick this week. 1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:29.440 Yeah. So, I mean, I just think that we have 1:03:29.520 --> 1:03:31.920 to be really nuanced. And I think that Angela's point 1:03:32.320 --> 1:03:34.320 I would like to combine her point in mind as 1:03:34.400 --> 1:03:37.040 kind of top top themes, which is like, don't let them, 1:03:37.680 --> 1:03:42.120 don't let them make you them, but also we deserve 1:03:42.240 --> 1:03:45.640 more of our elected officials, which I got a lot 1:03:45.640 --> 1:03:49.560 out of what Angela said, Josh, what you get. 1:03:49.600 --> 1:03:51.200 Yeah, I mean, I won't say too much. I think 1:03:51.840 --> 1:03:54.120 you know, the point that you made, Angela, don't let them, 1:03:54.200 --> 1:03:56.640 don't let them make us them was was the was 1:03:56.680 --> 1:03:58.520 the point that I was agreeing with a little bit 1:03:58.560 --> 1:04:01.840 earlier as well, when we were talking about, you know, 1:04:01.880 --> 1:04:05.880 putting out a message that would purposefully demobilize people to vote, 1:04:05.880 --> 1:04:07.320 Like I'm sensitive to that. I don't want to be 1:04:07.360 --> 1:04:12.640 that guy. I do think that the only the weakest 1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:14.760 part of his video, the weakest part of his argument 1:04:14.840 --> 1:04:17.600 was when he was making the Republican comparisons. I want 1:04:17.640 --> 1:04:20.520 to just like clearly state that I think that any 1:04:21.560 --> 1:04:25.120 any position that says, look, they did it, so we 1:04:25.160 --> 1:04:29.640 should either do it or halt on, you know, criticizing 1:04:29.640 --> 1:04:31.560 some money when they do it, I'm never going to 1:04:31.600 --> 1:04:35.080 agree with that. There's one small part of what he 1:04:35.160 --> 1:04:37.720 said that I am I'm not saying I agree with, 1:04:37.800 --> 1:04:40.320 but I'm I am sensitive too, and I want to 1:04:40.400 --> 1:04:45.520 think more about, which is at what point do allegations become. 1:04:46.600 --> 1:04:48.040 The Gospel's truth? Right? 1:04:48.440 --> 1:04:50.680 And the reason why, you know, this is a tough 1:04:50.720 --> 1:04:52.400 thing to say coming out of the Me too era 1:04:52.920 --> 1:04:56.120 where you know, the headline is believe women, Believe women, 1:04:56.280 --> 1:04:58.120 and we I want to do that. 1:04:58.160 --> 1:04:58.720 We all want to. 1:04:58.680 --> 1:05:00.000 Stressy that I wasn't the headline. 1:05:00.240 --> 1:05:07.920 He speak, well, Well, where I'm going with this is 1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:11.040 the one thing that brings me as a black man 1:05:11.480 --> 1:05:13.400 back to is like the. 1:05:13.720 --> 1:05:15.040 Suite of abhorn. 1:05:15.200 --> 1:05:19.360 Allegations against black men coming from white women throughout history 1:05:19.760 --> 1:05:23.240 that like we're not even uh, there was no room 1:05:23.280 --> 1:05:27.320 to question them and have had enormous ramifications in our 1:05:27.320 --> 1:05:30.080 community and our psyche and our relationship with this country. 1:05:30.600 --> 1:05:33.800 And so I understand that his video was made before 1:05:33.880 --> 1:05:37.480 some video evidence came out, and the only part of 1:05:37.520 --> 1:05:40.760 his video that I felt a little bit of, uh 1:05:40.800 --> 1:05:42.720 that I want to think more about, is, Yeah, at 1:05:42.720 --> 1:05:45.800 what point do we say the allegations absolutely mean that 1:05:45.840 --> 1:05:48.000 you must step down, or absolutely mean that you are 1:05:48.040 --> 1:05:50.320 not the person that could represent me. I think that 1:05:50.320 --> 1:05:51.760 that is worth some discourse as well. 1:05:52.560 --> 1:05:55.440 I just can I just say this one thing on 1:05:55.520 --> 1:06:00.480 top of what you just said about some of the allegations. Historically, 1:06:00.600 --> 1:06:02.720 this is why I and God in trouble for it 1:06:02.720 --> 1:06:05.200 and still do to this day. Never say believe all women. 1:06:05.280 --> 1:06:06.920 I don't believe all women. It is what it is. 1:06:06.920 --> 1:06:10.400 I have a friend from preschool incarcerated right now for 1:06:11.040 --> 1:06:14.360 an accusation of rape that he did not do, but 1:06:14.480 --> 1:06:17.120 because people believed all women. You can go back, since 1:06:17.120 --> 1:06:18.840 we've talked about the Bible today, you can go back 1:06:18.880 --> 1:06:21.560 to the Book of Genesis where Joseph ran out of 1:06:21.600 --> 1:06:25.680 his cloak from Potiphar's wife child, Okay, because she accused. 1:06:25.400 --> 1:06:26.000 Him of some stuff. 1:06:26.040 --> 1:06:28.280 So I don't believe all women either, But I do 1:06:28.360 --> 1:06:32.440 think we should be figuring out if we're giving people passes, 1:06:32.480 --> 1:06:35.760 not around sexual assault, but if going back to this video, 1:06:35.800 --> 1:06:40.440 if we're giving people passes, what is permissible for a 1:06:40.480 --> 1:06:44.440 Democratic Party to give their potential candidates passes for what 1:06:44.520 --> 1:06:46.560 are the things you turn a blind eye to? Do 1:06:46.680 --> 1:06:49.240 you turn a blind eye towards anything? Do you get 1:06:49.240 --> 1:06:51.200 someone passed? Do you get someone grace? We got grace 1:06:51.240 --> 1:06:53.800 for Marjorie Taylor Green? So do we have grace for 1:06:53.880 --> 1:06:57.760 these people who have been carrying the right banner for 1:06:58.320 --> 1:07:00.880 a policy that actually served and meets the needs of 1:07:00.920 --> 1:07:04.480 our people. I don't know, it's to your point, Josh, 1:07:04.520 --> 1:07:06.160 I'm gonna start saying that, Like, I got to think 1:07:06.160 --> 1:07:07.800 about this some more, but this is where I'm at 1:07:07.840 --> 1:07:10.320 in this moment. I think that it's worthy of a 1:07:10.360 --> 1:07:14.360 conversation to say, what is the spectrum of grace that 1:07:14.440 --> 1:07:17.720 we give for, particularly for people running for office or 1:07:17.920 --> 1:07:18.920 in elected office? 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:21.040 And then where do we say, no, we draw the 1:07:21.040 --> 1:07:23.160 line here? What is the line that we. 1:07:23.200 --> 1:07:28.360 Draw part this? If I could just weigh it on 1:07:28.400 --> 1:07:32.520 the topic broadly, which is to say to your question, Angela, 1:07:32.680 --> 1:07:34.160 And I think that he hit on this in this 1:07:34.320 --> 1:07:37.880 video as he compared how Republicans tend to deal with 1:07:37.960 --> 1:07:42.160 their crises, forgetting the enumerting of what those crises may be, 1:07:42.600 --> 1:07:45.320 but how they generally perform or deal with it. And 1:07:45.360 --> 1:07:47.720 how Democrats perform a deal with our crises. And I 1:07:47.760 --> 1:07:51.320 gotta say that resonated with me. First off, if your 1:07:51.360 --> 1:07:54.640 fight is being is taking place in the arena of politics, 1:07:54.800 --> 1:07:58.320 please don't ever count on your political party to be 1:07:58.680 --> 1:08:01.200 your clutch, got your back ride wich you like four 1:08:01.240 --> 1:08:06.240 flat tires, Absolutely not on the Democratic side, hook line sinker, 1:08:06.400 --> 1:08:10.600 period After that, they're not going to and the body politic, frankly, 1:08:10.640 --> 1:08:13.040 for the players in the arena are really not about that. 1:08:13.160 --> 1:08:15.720 They are about harm reduction to themselves. When I say 1:08:15.720 --> 1:08:20.000 harm reductions as well as electability re electability, and not 1:08:20.120 --> 1:08:23.920 to put in any way, shape or form compromise their 1:08:23.960 --> 1:08:28.200 access or their welding of power. Period Enough said. But 1:08:28.439 --> 1:08:31.519 I will say the party as a whole does not 1:08:31.600 --> 1:08:36.640 have an appetite for a full throated and full throttled defense. 1:08:36.960 --> 1:08:40.720 And again I'm stepping outside of this the context of 1:08:40.760 --> 1:08:44.639 the sexual abuse allegations and just dealing just more broadly 1:08:44.680 --> 1:08:48.439 with their appetite for the disdainful whatever that might look like. 1:08:48.560 --> 1:08:51.479 The Other thing I'll say about this is that my 1:08:51.600 --> 1:08:54.800 belief about believe all women is believe all women enough 1:08:54.840 --> 1:08:58.840 to investigate the allegations. Is what we are to say 1:08:58.880 --> 1:09:02.479 is the dot dot because nowhere And I'll say this 1:09:02.520 --> 1:09:05.879 from my own experience, it is a heel to climb 1:09:06.000 --> 1:09:10.679 plus some to deal with someone levying an allegation against 1:09:10.760 --> 1:09:13.479 you before you've ever had an opportunity to speak for 1:09:13.520 --> 1:09:17.360 yourself or to defend yourself, to say what your experience 1:09:17.400 --> 1:09:19.320 has been. And I believe people are entitled to that. 1:09:19.560 --> 1:09:23.400 But I will make an exception. I think that serving 1:09:23.439 --> 1:09:27.160 in public office is a privilege in a responsibility. I 1:09:27.200 --> 1:09:30.160 don't know that defending that perch is a defense that 1:09:30.240 --> 1:09:34.400 should be mounted from a political office. You may make 1:09:34.520 --> 1:09:36.840 the decision in the interest of the people for whom 1:09:36.840 --> 1:09:39.680 you've been elected to service. I will be too much 1:09:39.760 --> 1:09:43.240 of a distraction to what I've been elected and sent 1:09:43.360 --> 1:09:47.320 here to do than to fight this fight while I 1:09:47.439 --> 1:09:52.919 also stand as your elected best representative voice for our district. 1:09:53.240 --> 1:09:56.320 So the normal rules may not apply, and in fact, 1:09:56.360 --> 1:09:58.559 I think in a lot of cases don't apply for 1:09:58.840 --> 1:10:02.200 elected a officials. That the kind of grace that we 1:10:02.240 --> 1:10:07.520 want extended to us will follow us through our aspirations 1:10:07.560 --> 1:10:10.120 into the next office, as well as the maintaining of 1:10:10.160 --> 1:10:12.560 the office that we hold. And then finally, I'll just 1:10:12.600 --> 1:10:15.200 say on this, and I'll give it to you, Bikari. 1:10:14.439 --> 1:10:14.720 It is. 1:10:15.720 --> 1:10:22.240 It is that the belief that we can become judge, 1:10:22.360 --> 1:10:26.559 jury executioner off of the claims of one because as 1:10:26.640 --> 1:10:29.960 we all say, there's one to three sides, your's, theirs, 1:10:30.320 --> 1:10:33.160 and the truth. All of us have an experience and 1:10:33.160 --> 1:10:35.839 a lens by which we view and experience these things, 1:10:36.040 --> 1:10:39.160 and it may not always, in the retelling be the total. 1:10:40.000 --> 1:10:42.479 You know, some of all that may have taken place, 1:10:42.840 --> 1:10:47.720 and which is why investigations are important. But juries are 1:10:47.760 --> 1:10:51.080 the only ones who carry the responsibility of withholding judgment 1:10:51.360 --> 1:10:54.000 until you have heard what the judge says you are 1:10:54.040 --> 1:10:57.200 allowed to consider and making a determination on this case. 1:10:57.280 --> 1:11:00.559 The rest of us are not required to to spend 1:11:00.640 --> 1:11:03.880 with judgment until we've heard all the evidence. It's nice 1:11:03.880 --> 1:11:06.960 to do, but by and large, nobody has that admonishment 1:11:07.040 --> 1:11:07.920 except jurors. 1:11:08.160 --> 1:11:10.000 I always tell people this, and I'm actually tossing it 1:11:10.000 --> 1:11:13.080 back to you, Andrew, because I have a question. I 1:11:13.120 --> 1:11:17.400 always tell people that pastors and elected officials are the 1:11:17.439 --> 1:11:21.000 only profession where people expect more from you than they 1:11:21.040 --> 1:11:25.400 expect from themselves, of course, and I just think that 1:11:25.400 --> 1:11:28.360 that is kind of an awesome cross to bear perverbally, 1:11:29.600 --> 1:11:33.160 and that is like your great responsibility of refrain. But Andrew, 1:11:33.200 --> 1:11:35.360 I think you hit on it. But I really just 1:11:35.400 --> 1:11:37.760 wanted to drive this home because I was actually thinking 1:11:37.800 --> 1:11:39.880 about this in conversation with you, and I woke up 1:11:39.880 --> 1:11:42.639 at two forty five this morning to come back home 1:11:42.680 --> 1:11:48.360 from TV. But like, talk about the value of due process, 1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:55.519 because you know, people in this world of hot takes, 1:11:55.560 --> 1:11:59.040 in this world of you know, kind of cascading things, 1:11:59.160 --> 1:12:02.160 momentum happens. I mean, two weeks ago, Eric Swalwell was 1:12:02.200 --> 1:12:03.400 on his way to the governor's mansion. 1:12:03.680 --> 1:12:04.599 That's true, that's true. 1:12:04.720 --> 1:12:08.439 Two days ago, this man, I guess you call it, 1:12:08.479 --> 1:12:11.120 but he ran for president and we didn't know none 1:12:11.120 --> 1:12:13.960 of this, right that you all remember he was on 1:12:14.000 --> 1:12:17.519 the stage against Joe Biden, like he literally ran for 1:12:17.600 --> 1:12:20.160 president and two weeks ago was on his way to 1:12:20.200 --> 1:12:23.439 the governor's mansion. And then it kind of of cascaded down. 1:12:23.479 --> 1:12:27.160 And sometimes is it the job that you have that 1:12:27.240 --> 1:12:29.559 you don't get the benefit of due process? Where does 1:12:29.640 --> 1:12:33.720 due process stop and start? Should we? I mean, we 1:12:34.120 --> 1:12:39.040 talk about these words as if they're not so tangible ideals. 1:12:39.120 --> 1:12:43.080 But I hold due process as like a fundamental tenet 1:12:43.120 --> 1:12:45.960 of our being like that, that is so like my 1:12:46.040 --> 1:12:48.040 quest because you've been through the process. Me and Andrew 1:12:48.080 --> 1:12:50.640 joke all the time. Andrew was like, what did you 1:12:50.680 --> 1:12:53.080 ask me, Andrew. 1:12:52.280 --> 1:12:56.320 If you thought I was going to be found guilty? 1:12:56.360 --> 1:13:00.840 And you said, yeah, I mean I love Andrew with 1:13:00.920 --> 1:13:01.320 all my heart. 1:13:02.760 --> 1:13:04.160 No, he knew the percentages. 1:13:04.520 --> 1:13:06.479 Yeah, the percentage was when you go. 1:13:06.439 --> 1:13:10.280 Against the federal government, nine percent of those cases if 1:13:10.320 --> 1:13:13.680 not settled. I mean it was a resulting guilt. 1:13:13.640 --> 1:13:16.320 So use terminology. It wasn't necessarily an indictment of the 1:13:16.360 --> 1:13:19.120 man that I know. It was more of the process 1:13:19.160 --> 1:13:22.000 that we're in. Right, So you've been through that process 1:13:22.040 --> 1:13:25.680 where many people didn't. They you were pre judged and 1:13:25.720 --> 1:13:29.040 you still are. You still are. People still judge you 1:13:29.080 --> 1:13:31.120 for behavior they accused you of that you were found 1:13:31.200 --> 1:13:34.519 not guilty of. So like, explain to me due process 1:13:34.520 --> 1:13:36.040 as somebody who's set in that seat. 1:13:36.240 --> 1:13:39.360 Well, I will tell you. Due process is confined to 1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:44.479 the legal arena, and barely that alone. But in the 1:13:44.479 --> 1:13:47.520 court of the public opinion, there is no due process. 1:13:47.800 --> 1:13:51.680 There is claim, there's allegation, there's whatever your response may be, 1:13:51.840 --> 1:13:53.920 should you be able to give a response. By the way, 1:13:54.200 --> 1:13:58.200 usually in legal instances, the defendant is encouraged not to 1:13:58.320 --> 1:14:00.960 go out and to talk publicly because every single thing 1:14:01.040 --> 1:14:07.080 you you say can become another indictable offense, another offense 1:14:07.120 --> 1:14:09.639 by which they can come right back around and say, oh, 1:14:09.680 --> 1:14:12.920 we have a superseding indictment. We're not going to add this, this, this, 1:14:12.960 --> 1:14:16.160 and this against you. And so the system is not 1:14:16.760 --> 1:14:22.479 built at all for in the direction of a legally 1:14:22.560 --> 1:14:27.880 balanced system, wherein the defendant has equal opportunity right and 1:14:28.120 --> 1:14:31.439 standing before the court of public opinion to make a 1:14:31.439 --> 1:14:33.720 fair and balanced case. The fact that they can have 1:14:33.720 --> 1:14:37.120 a superseding indictment is one instance where you can see 1:14:37.280 --> 1:14:39.559 it is not to the advantage or to the to 1:14:39.560 --> 1:14:42.840 to to there to the benefit of the defendant to 1:14:43.200 --> 1:14:48.240 speak at all outside of the legal arena. But beyond that, Bakari, 1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:50.880 it is the truth is is that I know this 1:14:50.960 --> 1:14:52.880 in saying it right now, and I know it will 1:14:52.920 --> 1:14:55.640 be the case after we say it and after this conversation, 1:14:56.520 --> 1:14:58.519 and it didn't change for me until I was in 1:14:58.560 --> 1:15:01.280 the bullseye. To be very be honest with you, is 1:15:01.320 --> 1:15:04.280 I also prejudged when I heard a claim when I 1:15:04.360 --> 1:15:10.360 heard a an accusation, my my being was to be 1:15:10.520 --> 1:15:15.479 sensitive to what the person was being accused of, because 1:15:15.600 --> 1:15:18.759 why would somebody make that up? Why would someone put themselves? 1:15:18.760 --> 1:15:19.200 Why would? 1:15:19.200 --> 1:15:23.519 Why would? Why would? Why wouldn't they? Why shouldn't they 1:15:23.560 --> 1:15:26.240 want to take your ass off? Why wouldn't they want 1:15:26.280 --> 1:15:28.439 to move in us a barrier that they believe got 1:15:28.479 --> 1:15:29.960 too close? Why wouldn't they? 1:15:30.080 --> 1:15:30.240 Right? 1:15:30.479 --> 1:15:31.920 But most of us are not going to go. 1:15:32.080 --> 1:15:35.440 On a bipartisan level, for sure, Okay. 1:15:35.400 --> 1:15:36.720 Most of us are not going to go to the 1:15:36.800 --> 1:15:38.120 questions of why. 1:15:38.680 --> 1:15:41.280 I will tell you that Shela messed up, But those 1:15:41.320 --> 1:15:44.280 claims didn't come out of thin air. And one day 1:15:44.280 --> 1:15:47.640 when we off off off air, I'll tell you. 1:15:48.400 --> 1:15:54.479 The Democrats Democrats to witness people, and they were going 1:15:54.560 --> 1:15:56.720 to be in the same district, And so there were 1:15:56.760 --> 1:15:58.760 Democrats who wanted to go ahead and take her out. 1:15:59.320 --> 1:16:01.599 By the way, does not let her off of whatever 1:16:01.680 --> 1:16:02.120 you need. 1:16:03.960 --> 1:16:05.200 Three years. 1:16:04.840 --> 1:16:08.080 She's a whole damn count artist. 1:16:08.600 --> 1:16:11.200 There would take away for instance, if I were jumping 1:16:11.240 --> 1:16:14.599 forward to my ct A, it really would be that 1:16:14.640 --> 1:16:16.920 we owe it to ourselves into the people out there 1:16:16.960 --> 1:16:20.160 who are accused and are leveled for things and we 1:16:20.200 --> 1:16:23.040 don't have the picture in front of us, and certainly 1:16:23.120 --> 1:16:26.040 in instances where the picture is supposed to become, you know, 1:16:26.320 --> 1:16:29.360 supposed to come forward, you know over the course of 1:16:29.360 --> 1:16:32.720 a process that we not just have grace, but put 1:16:32.760 --> 1:16:35.120 yourself in the position that if these things were being 1:16:35.160 --> 1:16:37.559 levied against me, and to my heart of hearts, I 1:16:37.600 --> 1:16:39.840 believe that I did not do the thing that they 1:16:39.840 --> 1:16:44.120 are saying that I did. That that you would wait 1:16:44.760 --> 1:16:47.160 until this process plays itself out so you can learn 1:16:47.200 --> 1:16:49.280 a little bit more, know a little bit more before 1:16:49.320 --> 1:16:52.479 you jump on that train. When that train hasn't even 1:16:52.479 --> 1:16:55.400 been interrogated. We haven't had a chance to put to 1:16:55.479 --> 1:16:59.080 the to the accusation a question. We have only been 1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:02.040 able to absorb what the accusation has been. And I'm 1:17:02.040 --> 1:17:04.400 not saying these folks are out there lying. I'm simply 1:17:04.439 --> 1:17:07.520 saying there ought to be a process that is observed 1:17:07.720 --> 1:17:10.040 that will allow us to know more fully and completely 1:17:10.240 --> 1:17:12.360 the story. The reason people give up and say, you 1:17:12.360 --> 1:17:14.640 know what I'm gonna plead is because they know the 1:17:14.800 --> 1:17:17.040 mountain that they are going to have to climb. If 1:17:17.040 --> 1:17:20.360 they're asking you, me and everybody else to withhold judgment 1:17:20.439 --> 1:17:24.280 until you learn more of what the situation has to offer. 1:17:25.600 --> 1:17:27.920 I was waiting on that answer, Thank you, a Jed. 1:17:28.160 --> 1:17:30.000 I wasn't trying to get too personal, but I was like, 1:17:30.120 --> 1:17:31.559 this is somebody who can answer this question. 1:17:31.680 --> 1:17:35.599 Is you? It's real? And the truth is that sometimes 1:17:35.640 --> 1:17:38.400 you won't. Unless you're in the crosshairs. It may never 1:17:38.439 --> 1:17:41.920 occur to you that judgment shouldn't be yours right now. 1:17:42.360 --> 1:17:46.000 Maybe what ought to be yours is curiosity and inquisition 1:17:46.160 --> 1:17:47.920 about what has come forward. And if that puts you 1:17:47.960 --> 1:17:50.800 on the wrong side of women's liberation, it shouldn't because 1:17:50.840 --> 1:17:53.240 we should say yes, they ought to be believed enough 1:17:53.280 --> 1:17:58.160 that their claims are investigated and solve through their logical conclusion, 1:17:58.800 --> 1:18:00.960 not that they are dismissed with, which has been the 1:18:01.080 --> 1:18:04.679 normal habit of the system, which is to say, manah, yeah, 1:18:04.680 --> 1:18:06.720 but you put yourself in the situation, and yeah, what 1:18:06.760 --> 1:18:08.280 did you do? And what were you wearing? And why 1:18:08.280 --> 1:18:10.880 would you show to somebody's place. All that stuff used 1:18:10.920 --> 1:18:15.480 to be the stuff that disarmed and quite frankly embarrassed 1:18:15.880 --> 1:18:20.280 and whipped women and claimants into submission because they knew 1:18:20.320 --> 1:18:22.840 that the system as built was not going to make 1:18:22.880 --> 1:18:25.559 way for their truth. We should make way for their truth. 1:18:25.600 --> 1:18:27.240 I want to put an exclamation mark on something you 1:18:27.280 --> 1:18:31.960 said too as you were talking ag like you you 1:18:31.960 --> 1:18:34.280 you know, for a black for a black man to 1:18:34.479 --> 1:18:38.360 ask the court of public opinion to at least wait 1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:43.360 until we get to the due process into the system 1:18:43.600 --> 1:18:47.240 that can discover truth. And that system doesn't even have 1:18:47.360 --> 1:18:50.400 a good record in discovering truth. That is us asking 1:18:50.479 --> 1:18:54.360 most times for the absolute bare minimum, absolutely right, like 1:18:54.400 --> 1:18:58.880 that system has a terrible track record and even discovering 1:18:58.920 --> 1:19:02.679 our truths right. And actually in most cases, those systems 1:19:02.720 --> 1:19:06.680 have been shields of plausible deniability that just allow some 1:19:06.720 --> 1:19:10.880 of the worst actors in America to to divvy out, 1:19:11.160 --> 1:19:14.320 you know, consequences towards us while no one can be 1:19:14.720 --> 1:19:17.679 single handedly responsible because it was it was a judicial 1:19:17.680 --> 1:19:20.200 say hey, hey, hey, they went through the courts, right, 1:19:20.360 --> 1:19:22.680 and so I really, I really like the way that 1:19:22.720 --> 1:19:26.680 you put that believe all women enough to to be 1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:28.799 curious to investigate the claims. 1:19:28.800 --> 1:19:29.479 I like that a lot. 1:19:29.720 --> 1:19:32.920 Yeah, well, y'all, I got one question for y'all, which 1:19:33.000 --> 1:19:38.200 is is there redemption in your mind after something like this? 1:19:38.320 --> 1:19:40.360 I think it's too early in the Swalloworld case because 1:19:40.400 --> 1:19:43.599 we've not there's not been a full vetting. But do 1:19:43.680 --> 1:19:47.880 you ever see an environment where someone can go through 1:19:47.920 --> 1:19:56.000 that crucible and afterwards be allowed in polite society, acceptable 1:19:56.040 --> 1:19:58.360 in polite society? Is that? What is that? 1:19:58.880 --> 1:20:01.360 I'm wondering if we can bigger question, if we could do. 1:20:01.400 --> 1:20:04.479 That on the mini pod ag because I would love 1:20:04.520 --> 1:20:07.439 to throw that in with the like the grace passes, 1:20:07.520 --> 1:20:09.479 Like what are the things that we can't extend grace 1:20:09.520 --> 1:20:13.160 for and allow somebody back into public service and vote 1:20:13.160 --> 1:20:16.679 them back in even because I do think it's something 1:20:16.680 --> 1:20:19.000 we should wrestle with and even if everybody else is 1:20:19.080 --> 1:20:21.120 uncomfortable with it. I think there needs to be a 1:20:21.160 --> 1:20:24.200 safe place called home where we can talk about these things, 1:20:24.240 --> 1:20:26.559 like what is the thing that's beyond the pill? What 1:20:26.680 --> 1:20:28.400 could we say, you know, if you went through some 1:20:28.479 --> 1:20:31.479 type of rehab or whatever, there's space. What are the 1:20:31.520 --> 1:20:33.680 things that will never let you back in for? I 1:20:33.680 --> 1:20:35.719 think it's important to wrestle with those things. 1:20:35.800 --> 1:20:38.559 At the challenge and don't relent the mic because you're 1:20:38.600 --> 1:20:46.920 on for CTA. 1:20:45.120 --> 1:20:47.839 Who cares about truth for the last more than saying. 1:20:47.640 --> 1:20:54.519 It okay, well thank you for that. So I my 1:20:54.640 --> 1:20:59.160 CTA is about taking care of yourself. You are we 1:20:59.280 --> 1:21:02.280 are living in a day and age where we are 1:21:02.360 --> 1:21:06.719 under constant stress. Our age group is going through taking 1:21:06.720 --> 1:21:09.760 care of children, taking care of our parents, taking care 1:21:09.760 --> 1:21:12.400 of our neighbors. And then we have to we have 1:21:12.520 --> 1:21:16.600 to like look at our president talking shit to the pope, 1:21:16.760 --> 1:21:18.960 you know, so like we have to wrestle with a 1:21:18.960 --> 1:21:22.840 lot internal and external factors of stress. Last week, Daddy, 1:21:22.840 --> 1:21:25.360 I'm about to tell your business. My dad was a 1:21:25.600 --> 1:21:31.800 hospitalized Wednesday and he you know, he has chronically high 1:21:31.800 --> 1:21:34.160 blood pressure. But we also found out he has congenital 1:21:34.200 --> 1:21:36.880 heart failure. He has to get a stint put in 1:21:37.080 --> 1:21:38.839 on Monday next week. 1:21:39.560 --> 1:21:40.439 He's been doing. 1:21:40.320 --> 1:21:42.519 Such great work supporting my mom and her care. And 1:21:42.560 --> 1:21:44.360 shout out to mommy because her cancer. 1:21:44.760 --> 1:21:45.439 She just got some. 1:21:45.439 --> 1:21:47.439 Blood work back and it's looking really, really good, so 1:21:47.479 --> 1:21:50.200 we're thanking God for that. But I'm saying this to 1:21:50.240 --> 1:21:52.760 you all because I was in a season for a 1:21:52.800 --> 1:21:57.320 long time of I don't have time to even work 1:21:57.320 --> 1:22:00.759 out for an hour. I'll eat right, I'll take my vitamins. 1:22:00.800 --> 1:22:02.400 I'm gonna be honest with y'all. I'm doing about three 1:22:02.400 --> 1:22:04.080 times a week. I need to do every day. But 1:22:04.280 --> 1:22:06.760 like even still right now in my challenge, I need 1:22:06.800 --> 1:22:08.439 to do more days a week. But I'm saying I 1:22:08.479 --> 1:22:11.240 would convince myself I don't even have the hour to 1:22:11.320 --> 1:22:11.680 give me. 1:22:12.520 --> 1:22:14.720 There are twenty four hours in a day. 1:22:15.160 --> 1:22:18.320 You cannot give the best of yourself to your spouses, 1:22:18.360 --> 1:22:21.759 your partners, your kids, your parents if you don't find 1:22:21.760 --> 1:22:24.280 that one hour. When we were in the emergency room, 1:22:24.360 --> 1:22:27.240 just as a quick little testimony with my dad his 1:22:27.320 --> 1:22:30.439 blood pressure, that the what's the top number is systolic? 1:22:30.920 --> 1:22:35.600 Whatever the top number isstic start yes, So his systolic 1:22:35.680 --> 1:22:39.040 number was two thirty one. I put on a meditation 1:22:39.160 --> 1:22:42.960 app for nine minutes and that top number dropped from 1:22:42.960 --> 1:22:46.160 two thirty one to one ninety two. And one ninety 1:22:46.200 --> 1:22:47.880 two is still too high. But in the emergency room 1:22:47.880 --> 1:22:49.479 you're about to get your blood pressure medicine, it's a 1:22:49.520 --> 1:22:52.559 little bit better. What I'm saying is just nine minutes 1:22:53.200 --> 1:22:56.400 if you're dealing with high blood pressure, just twenty minutes 1:22:56.439 --> 1:22:59.639 of walking thirty minutes something. I got my little peddler 1:22:59.680 --> 1:23:01.160 thing onneath. I don't know if y'all saw me, I 1:23:01.160 --> 1:23:03.320 was doing like that. I was peddling under the desk 1:23:03.400 --> 1:23:06.040 and now I'm like, I'm in the ninety day challenge. 1:23:06.120 --> 1:23:08.280 Let's go, y'all can join me at day eighty or 1:23:08.320 --> 1:23:11.200 whatever day I'm on seventy five. I just want you 1:23:11.280 --> 1:23:13.080 to do something and take care of yourselves and being 1:23:13.120 --> 1:23:16.280 committed to it. I do better with collaborative projects. So 1:23:16.320 --> 1:23:18.600 I got my friends all on me, like, Okay, we 1:23:18.680 --> 1:23:20.400 about to hit this treadmill. Okay, We're about to do 1:23:20.439 --> 1:23:22.800 these crunches. Okay, like, just do it. And also I 1:23:22.840 --> 1:23:25.479 needed to lose twenty pounds, so please do that for me, y'all. 1:23:25.560 --> 1:23:29.559 I loved that. I appreciate that, yes, which got Joshua. 1:23:31.000 --> 1:23:31.439 I'll go. 1:23:32.640 --> 1:23:35.640 I'll do I'll say, do things that do things that 1:23:35.720 --> 1:23:37.880 scare you, do things that make you nervous, do things 1:23:37.880 --> 1:23:41.640 that intimidate you. I'm gonna shamelessly plug myself here. I 1:23:41.680 --> 1:23:45.400 just gave the keynote at the Harvard Kennedy School the 1:23:45.400 --> 1:23:48.519 Black Policy Conference, and you know, most of my speech 1:23:48.600 --> 1:23:50.519 was about black political power, the research that we had 1:23:50.520 --> 1:23:55.040 done and hit strategies to disaggregate and psychographically segment the 1:23:55.600 --> 1:23:56.320 black voters. 1:23:56.600 --> 1:23:58.240 And I was nervous, man, you know, I was. 1:23:58.320 --> 1:24:00.680 I was real like I was a little timminated, and 1:24:00.720 --> 1:24:03.120 I think it went well and I've gotten some good reviews. 1:24:03.160 --> 1:24:05.360 And I've been saying that to myself since he like, 1:24:05.439 --> 1:24:07.800 do do the things that's scary, you don't run away 1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:08.000 from it. 1:24:08.040 --> 1:24:10.040 I love that. Yeah, I love that. 1:24:11.479 --> 1:24:13.519 Uh, I'm getting nervous no more. 1:24:13.520 --> 1:24:16.479 You know, you can show up and show out on 1:24:16.680 --> 1:24:20.040 young jeezy and show out. I got a video that 1:24:20.080 --> 1:24:24.400 I wanted to play from my oldest baby girl right here, Nick, 1:24:24.479 --> 1:24:26.040 if you can put it up for us. 1:24:32.520 --> 1:24:33.599 She looks like her mother. 1:24:34.400 --> 1:24:40.880 Yo. Yeah, that's just like her mom. So the video 1:24:40.920 --> 1:24:48.080 that we're watching is Kai Carter crossing. Yeah, so already 1:24:48.120 --> 1:24:51.479 incorporated and she is Alpha Chapter. And that's how I 1:24:51.520 --> 1:24:53.920 love the family. So shout out the Kai Carter and 1:24:53.960 --> 1:24:56.160 shout out the family. That's my ct any day. 1:24:56.439 --> 1:24:57.560 That's beautiful. 1:24:57.720 --> 1:25:01.240 Yeah, that's that HPCU right now. Yeah, yeah it is 1:25:04.760 --> 1:25:06.559 this what this is what South Dakota look like? 1:25:07.360 --> 1:25:14.080 That is well, yeah, you're curious, look at that found 1:25:14.200 --> 1:25:15.120 this is incredible. 1:25:16.400 --> 1:25:17.320 Congratulations. 1:25:17.360 --> 1:25:20.080 I love that. I love that. I love that my 1:25:20.240 --> 1:25:23.080 cousin is Outpha Chapter Delta and shout. 1:25:22.800 --> 1:25:24.920 Out it is hard, it's hard. 1:25:26.800 --> 1:25:30.799 Congratulations, Bakari. I know that's that's a high moment right there, 1:25:31.320 --> 1:25:33.880 and mine. I just reiterated what I said earlier, the 1:25:34.000 --> 1:25:39.599 the the demonstrating enough will and it does take will 1:25:39.640 --> 1:25:46.720 power to foreclose judgment until you know more, and in 1:25:46.760 --> 1:25:49.120 the case of trials, will learn more. But even in 1:25:49.160 --> 1:25:51.320 the case of when we're online and we get our 1:25:51.479 --> 1:25:52.920 you know, get all up in our and were about 1:25:52.920 --> 1:25:54.880 to go on and do our live and shout out, 1:25:54.920 --> 1:25:58.320 you know, well, really call out somebody left and right, 1:25:59.040 --> 1:26:01.080 we oftentimes do those things and I see them, you know, 1:26:01.120 --> 1:26:04.080 every now and again. I'm like, my goodness, Lord, you 1:26:04.200 --> 1:26:06.639 got a lot of heat for such and such and such. 1:26:07.360 --> 1:26:10.240 When I was going through my own trials, I realized 1:26:10.280 --> 1:26:12.760 that all the folks who had the most heat, you know, 1:26:12.800 --> 1:26:15.000 who were coming for me with you know, you know, 1:26:15.120 --> 1:26:19.920 machete in hand. I recognized very early on that you 1:26:19.920 --> 1:26:22.000 you don't know me, and you can't have that much 1:26:22.040 --> 1:26:26.000 heat for me. So I pray for you because clearly 1:26:26.000 --> 1:26:29.360 there's something up in your life that you and may 1:26:29.400 --> 1:26:32.120 be able to channel that anger through me, but that 1:26:32.200 --> 1:26:34.240 you got to deal with on your own. That that's 1:26:34.280 --> 1:26:36.599 your cross the baar or you got to work that out. 1:26:37.040 --> 1:26:41.120 I may be a passageway right now. But but I've 1:26:41.120 --> 1:26:44.720 never gone online and talked about something in somebody uh 1:26:45.000 --> 1:26:49.519 uh in such a way without being in full hopefully 1:26:49.560 --> 1:26:52.080 command of the fact that I ain't got that's not 1:26:52.120 --> 1:26:57.400 really about me, that's that's they thing, and then being 1:26:57.439 --> 1:26:59.439 in also awareness that you know what, I took all 1:26:59.439 --> 1:27:04.320 that heat out and I am like screaming out loud 1:27:04.360 --> 1:27:07.599 for help in my own life on this thing, because 1:27:07.600 --> 1:27:09.400 there ain't no way I can feel that way about 1:27:09.400 --> 1:27:12.559 this person and don't know them, couldn't tell you their 1:27:12.560 --> 1:27:18.000 middle name mcary, But yet I got het for him, 1:27:18.200 --> 1:27:21.240 and therapy helped me recognize that no, that heat was 1:27:21.280 --> 1:27:24.320 really for me. I just needed an avenue that I 1:27:24.320 --> 1:27:26.760 could channel it through that didn't make me feel so 1:27:26.920 --> 1:27:30.920 bad about myself, and so I used other people to 1:27:30.920 --> 1:27:34.160 scapegoat it. But our curiosity and our patients with the 1:27:34.200 --> 1:27:37.439 truth will come in handy. 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