1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to an airwave media podcast. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: We're so done with New Year, New you. This year's 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: finding geminis because you know you always like them. 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It 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: means an experience you haven't had before because of the 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Classic Tales Podcast. It's not about our relationship with classic literature, 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: It's about your relationship with it. 18 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: Hi, everybody, and welcome back to Who Did What Now? 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: The history podcast That's not Your History class with me? 20 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: Your host Katie Charlewood, History Harlotte and reader of books. 21 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: I've been on the BBC, have been on the BBC, 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: have been on the BBC. I'm very excitedly, can you 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 3: tell I've been on the BABYSA. It's BBC Radio four, 24 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: so technically I have been on the BBC. 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: And I will be dining out on this on every 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 4: family dinner for the next however many family dinners I have. Well, brother, 27 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 4: you may be a classically trained precautionist who traversed the 28 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: Atlantic Ocean in a rep like a famine ship. 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 5: But were you on the BBC though? Were you on 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 5: the BBC? Though? 31 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: You were not on the BBC though, I was on 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: the BBC though. I'm really annoying. I know I'm being 33 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: really annoying, but I'm just it's very surreal and it's 34 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 4: really nice to sort of be validated. 35 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 5: In any kind of way. 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: Because I'm a social scientist who teaches history on the internet. 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 5: It's what I do. 38 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: And ooh, well, sometimes I'll say things that I think 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: are very basic and very typical and sort of general knowledge. 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: And I know I'm the one person who goes, well, 41 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 4: knowledge isn't really general because of socialization and culture and 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 4: things like that. 43 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 6: So I'll say stuff and then people will straight up 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 6: argue with me, like I'm still I'm still getting complaints 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 6: about Elizabeth basically Elizabeth Bathery, because some people really don't 46 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 6: want to let go of the concept that she's that 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 6: she was like the most prolific serial killer in all 48 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 6: of history. 49 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 5: She killed more than six hundred and fifty people. 50 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 4: Did she like I heard someone who was just like 51 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: bumping their gums at may Ranton? Oh, she was evil. 52 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: She killed up to eighty people, and I'm like, she 53 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 4: ruled for forty years. That's two people per year. I 54 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: feel like in mediae evil Europe, that's pretty low. If 55 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: a male ruler had done that in any capacity, we 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 4: wouldn't really hear about it. That being said, we never 57 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: really hear about anything. Queen Elizabeth did the farts, not 58 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 4: the second. I mean, as far as I know, Queen 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 4: Elizabeth Iond hasn't like being chopping off heads. But to 60 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 4: our knowledge, we don't know what she's trained those corkies 61 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 4: to do. Because in Munster, Queen Elizabeth the Forest had 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: four hundred families massacred in like an afternoon, But we 63 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 4: don't talk about that. That's not discussed, and I find 64 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: that very weird. But anyway, so I want to thank 65 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: everybody for rating and reviewing. You're you did it again. 66 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: You keep saying such lovely things, which is is so 67 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: it's so nice. 68 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 5: I just it's so nice. 69 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: You guys are so lovely and you say such amazing 70 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: things and you just fill my heart with joy. And 71 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: I've said it before and I'll say it again. I 72 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: know there's loads of podcasters out there who are like, 73 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 4: that's not for my ego, and I'm like, whereas for me, 74 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: it is very much. 75 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 5: Oh it's not. But also it kind of is because 76 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 5: I like. 77 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: Compliments and like, growing up in Ireland it is so 78 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: strange because you're sort of trained not to accept compliments 79 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: and you kind of do a reverse compliment thing where 80 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 4: someone compliments you and it can be on your dress 81 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: and you're just like, hushure, regot it from Pennies. Oh 82 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: it's a lovely jumper. Hushure, Oh this whole thing. I've 83 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 4: had it forever. I traded it for a used tea 84 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: bag and a worn it show. You know, it's it's 85 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: so weird. 86 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 5: It's so weird. 87 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: But yeah, speaking of the BBC, I am back on 88 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: Thursday Night eleven PMGMT on the twenty sixth of May 89 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 4: for the second episode of Gasolic Groomed and Ghosted with 90 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: Louise Omelan, where you get to hear me be ris 91 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 4: it in his story and again, go check it out. 92 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 5: Go check it out. You may as well. You may 93 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 5: as well. 94 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 4: It's so weird here myself in the context of something 95 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: else than this. It's because I rarely listened to a 96 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 4: full episode cohesively. 97 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 5: Because I'll edit and I'll do a bit, and i'll 98 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 5: edit it, I'll do a bit. But I never re 99 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 5: listened to an episode. That's not true. 100 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: I had to do it recently because I basically put 101 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: my hat in the ring for the Irish Podcast Awards. 102 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 4: Maybe we'll see how it goes. But I know what 103 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: you're thinking. You're thinking, quit your gibber. 104 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 5: Jabber in fact me, In fact you, I will. But 105 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 5: first we've got to get our source on. 106 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 4: Our sources are Eleanor of Aquitaine Alive by Alison Ware, 107 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 4: Women Crusading in the Holy Land and historical Narrative by 108 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: Natasha Hodgson, Revisiting Monarchy, Women and the Prospects for Power 109 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: by Katherine Crawford. Queen Eleanor Independent Spirit of the Medieval 110 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: World by Pauli Shawyer Brooks and Eleanor of Aquitaine The 111 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: Mother Queen by Desmond seword. 112 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 5: Right. 113 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 4: So I cannot actually convey to you just how excited 114 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 4: I am to talk about Eleanor of Aquitaine. She was 115 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: one of those people in history that was an absolute badass, 116 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 4: and I mean that sincerely. 117 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 5: The woman lived a life. 118 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 4: Let me tell you, and I will tell you. 119 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 5: So let's start from the beginning. 120 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 4: Eleanor was born maybe in eleven twenty two or maybe 121 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: in eleven twenty four. We're not entirely sure bocause let's 122 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: face it, why would anyone be bothered to actually write 123 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 4: down the actual date of a woman in the past, 124 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: regardless of how high they were up in the nobility 125 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: scale women of the past, when were you born? Fuck it, 126 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter anyway. She was the oldest child of William, 127 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 4: the tenth Duke of Aquitaine and Enol desha Deliro. So 128 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 4: she was born at some point between these two years. 129 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: When whim's to say, and her mother is like, I'm 130 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: gonna name you after myself kinda So her mother Enore 131 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: calls her daughter ali Enore, so her mother names her 132 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: ali No, which comes from the Latin alia enore, which 133 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: translates to the other anore. Ah, this is Susan and 134 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: other Susan. I'm sorry, I find it funny. I like that, okay, 135 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: sidebar and irish ella means like other additionally, say, for example, 136 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 4: bohol is boy, bohol ella other boy, bohol ugust bohole ella. 137 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: So like in my head, whenever I hear the name Cinderella, 138 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 4: I think other Cinder. Ah, there's Cinder August, Cinderella. I 139 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: know it's silly, but it's stuck in my head forever. 140 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: But here's the thing about nobility anyway, There's always going to. 141 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 5: Be someone named after someone else. They have a habit 142 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 5: of doing that. It's all about lineage and. 143 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: Lineage, tradition, respect, brown nosing whatever anyway, and honestly, not 144 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: even the most interesting name in her family. Eleanor's gran 145 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: had the nickname of Dangerous. We don't know what her 146 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 4: real name was. All we have is her nickname because 147 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 4: that's how she was known. But that's another story for 148 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 4: another day. Back to Eleanor, so the Douche of Aquitaine. 149 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: It is actually the largest and wealthiest douche in twelfth 150 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: century France, it basically takes up most of there, and 151 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 4: because it's massive and is very rich, that's where everybody goes. 152 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: So Paris at this point is still kind of like 153 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 4: boring because it's the twelfth century and Aquitaine is this 154 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 4: is the medieval equivalent of the bustling cultural center. There's 155 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 4: fashion and culture and education. So being this cultural and 156 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: scholarly hub, all the nobility had fantastic educations, and of 157 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: course the children of the Duke of Aquitaine, they had 158 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 4: the best education money could buy. So because she's a girl, 159 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 4: Eleanor is automatically trained in what would be seen as 160 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 4: the more feminine education, including household. 161 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 5: Management, spinning, sewing, But on. 162 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 4: Top of that, she would be taught astronomy, history, arithmetic. 163 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: Eleanor's education revolved around getting her ready to be the 164 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: wife of a rich and powerful man, like that's the 165 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 4: end goal. 166 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 5: She is the eldest child, she is. 167 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 4: The daughter, you know, she is the bargaining chip, she 168 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 4: is the alliance maker. 169 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 5: But when her only brother. 170 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 4: Dies in eleven thirty, when Eleanor's what either six or 171 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: eight years old, because we don't fucking know, one of those. 172 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 5: She's next in line. 173 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: She becomes the heir presumptive for the largest area in France, 174 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 4: which meant that instead of just being trained to be 175 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 4: a nobleman's wife, she was now being taught to be 176 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: a ruler herself in her own right. And eleven thirty seven, 177 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: William the tenth dies, making Eleanor the Duchess of Aquitaine. 178 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: Eleanor becomes the most eligible maiden in all of Europe. 179 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: She was clever, witty, apparently pretty, and had huge tracts 180 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: of land, but you know, men like to be in control, even. 181 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 5: Beyond the grave. 182 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: In his will, William the tenth had appointed, so William 183 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 4: the Tenth's will actually puts King Louis the sixth of 184 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 4: France as Eleanor's guardian, which wasn't really unusual for the time, 185 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 4: because generally nobles would write a will and they would 186 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 4: appoint somebody to be the guardian of their like widow 187 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: and children, in order to ensure that they were treated 188 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 4: fairly and that they weren't going to be fucked over 189 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 4: by men, by evil, untrustworthy men who would look to 190 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: their lands and destroy things and whatever. So and of 191 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 4: course he asks the king to protect Eleanor and Aquitaine 192 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 4: until such times as a suitable husband can be found 193 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: for her. And obviously Louis the Sex knew that he 194 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 4: was going to be appointed this like this wasn't It 195 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 4: wasn't a surprise, and so quite literally hours after being 196 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: informed of William the tenth untimely demise, King Louis the 197 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 4: Six decided that Eleanor would be betrothed to his seventeen 198 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: year old heir, who, in a surprising twist, is also 199 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 4: named Louis. 200 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 5: Ugh, I'm surprised, Are you surprised? Ooh? 201 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 4: I think Louis was hoping to get control of Aquitaine 202 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 4: and have like a larger control of France. However, the 203 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 4: marriage contract between Eleanor and Louis stated that the Duchy 204 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: of Aquitaine would only come under control of the Crown 205 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: once Louis and Eleanor. 206 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 5: Produced an air the future King of France. 207 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: Effectively, and until such a child was born, Eleanor's lands 208 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 4: would remain independent from the Crown of France. Also, in addition, furthermore, 209 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: one of the reasons why Louis the Six barely waited 210 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: for William's body to be called before he engaged these 211 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: two teens was because he had a pretty severe case 212 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 4: of the dysentery and was currently shitting himself to death, 213 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: which is also probably why the marriage agreement wasn't really 214 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: too much in his favor. So Eleanor and Louis they 215 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: get married, and exactly one week later, King Louis the 216 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 4: sixth dies, So in seven days, Eleanor has effectively upgraded twice. 217 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: She went Duchess, princess queen. I don't know if she 218 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 4: was officially named a princess, but technically, let's just agree 219 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: to it. It's funnier this way. It's the equivalent of 220 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: not even unpacking your suitcase. They had just been installed 221 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: as the Duke and Duchess of Aquitaine and they had 222 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: to bugger off back to Paris because whoops. 223 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 5: Although now the. 224 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: King and Queen of France, even though they were similar 225 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: in age, Eleanor was much more suited to ruling than 226 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 4: her husband was. You see, Louis was never meant to 227 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: be king. He was the spare to the heir and 228 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: generally as the second son, he was supposed to go 229 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 4: into some sort of religious vocation. But six years earlier, 230 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 4: his older brother Philippe sadly lost his life in a 231 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 4: tragic equestrian accident. Fifteen old Philip had gone out riding 232 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 4: with his mates and his horse tripped over a pig 233 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 4: catapulted him over the horse, fracturing so many of Philippe's 234 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 4: bones that he died within twenty four hours. And that 235 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: was when they had to bring Louis back into the fold. So, 236 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 4: while Eleanor was being raised to be a leader, Louis 237 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: was being raised by monks. 238 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 5: The two could not have been more different. 239 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: Louis, at least at the start, was really into Eleanor. 240 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 4: He was just like, Wow, she's so wildly, she's so smart, 241 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 4: she's so gorgeous and everything else that comes with it. 242 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 4: And Eleanor found him to be dull and overflowing with piety, 243 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: like she was just not into this. And to top 244 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: of the lath like she'd come from Aquitaine, which was 245 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: a cultural and educational and fashionable hub, and Paris was 246 00:14:53,240 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 4: really ignorant, unrefined, and really fucking tedious. So clearly they 247 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: were not the most compatible of couples, which was seen 248 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: clearly by the incredible lack of airs produced. But eventually, 249 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 4: after eight years of being married, they have a daughter, Millie, 250 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 4: and you know, eight months after having Marie, Eleanor and 251 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: Louis the Seventh decide that now is the optimal moment to. 252 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 5: Go on a crusade. Mm hmmm mm hmm. 253 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: Nicholas to say this crusade is what some might determine 254 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: as unsuccessful because it was in fact unsuccessful. 255 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 5: Basically, they're trying to make their way to Edessa that 256 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 5: their charge on the way there is a massacre. Shit 257 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 5: goes down. 258 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: Luckily, Louis is wearing a pilgrim's chunic and not a 259 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: royal chuinic, so will his bodyguards. The royal bodyguards have 260 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: their skulls crushed in he manages to escape. Also doesn't 261 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: help that Louis was not the most efficient military leader, 262 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 4: so basically it's a whole shit show. And seeing as 263 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 4: Eleanor's uncle, Raymond's place is on the way, they think, listen, 264 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: let's stop there. So Raymond was the youngest brother of 265 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: Eleanor's dad, and of course, after the absolute fucking disaster 266 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: that she's gone through, she is incredibly happy to see 267 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: her uncle. The court is very similar to what she 268 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: grew up with in Aquitain. They also speak the same dialect, 269 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: and they had similar educations and interests. Effectively, while she's 270 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: staying there, her and her uncle are staying up late, 271 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: they're chatting, They're spending a lot of time together. So 272 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 4: she's spending a lot of time with a man who 273 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: isn't her husband, speaking in a language that he does 274 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: not understand. 275 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 7: At which point rumors start circulating that Eleanor is banging 276 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 7: her uncle, which, by the way, ill and also eck 277 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 7: oh no, a homesick person is spending time with a relative, 278 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 7: they must be shagging. 279 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 4: Cool, so glad, so glad you thought that up. Anyway, 280 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 4: these rumors are not helped by the fact that Eleanor 281 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 4: does not want to return to Paris. 282 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 5: She likes where she is. 283 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 4: See what this does is this reminds her of what 284 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: she had and what she wants, and she really does 285 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 4: not want to go back to Paris in a marriage 286 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: with someone who she feels really is not her equal. 287 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: So Eleanor wants to have the marriage nulled because of consanguinity, 288 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 4: and you're like, what's that when it's at home. Basically 289 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 4: it meant closely related because they were third cousins. Once removed, 290 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 4: it could be argued that this relationship could be seen 291 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 4: as incestuus, which is the point she's trying to make. 292 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 4: So Eleanor does not want to return to Paris, but 293 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: Louis he isn't going to Paris yet. First of all, 294 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 4: turns out oh Odessa has been raised to the ground 295 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: or there's no Adessa to save, so he's not going there. 296 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 4: No real extra crusading for him. That being said, because 297 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: you know, raised by monks, he wants to go in 298 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 4: a p to the Holy Land. Eleanor does not, but 299 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: he humiliates her and basically forces her to come with him. 300 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 4: But of course she has today what her husband says, 301 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 4: because she is a woman in the past. Raymond does 302 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 4: try and convince Louis to then just go on another 303 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: like holy crusade and go fight people, and Louis is like, nah, 304 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 4: I think I'm just gonna go do the praying thing. 305 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 4: So the journey from the Holy Land back to France 306 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: was wasn't exactly smooth sailing. 307 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 5: The journey home was a not an easy one. 308 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: On the way from the Holy Land to France, Eleanor's like, fine, 309 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: I will go back to Paris, but I'm going on 310 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 4: a separate ship, which is then attacked by Byzantine pirates. 311 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 5: They managed to escape. 312 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: The ship then gets caught in a storm and lands 313 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: in North Africa, and no one sees hiding her hair 314 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 4: for her for two months. When she actually manages to 315 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 4: make it to Sicily, she finds out that everyone assumes 316 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: that both her and Louis died at sea. She's then 317 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 4: given food and shelter by King Roger the second of Sicily. 318 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 4: It's there that she discovers that her uncle Raymond was 319 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 4: actually beheaded by Muslim forces in the Holy Land, which 320 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 4: probably made Louis incredibly happy. And instead of heading back 321 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 4: to France, Eleanor goes to see the Pope and she's like, please, 322 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 4: can you annul this marriage? And he goes that is 323 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: an option. However, have you considered sleeping in the same bed? 324 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 4: Thank you, Pope for that one. So they do this, 325 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 4: thus resulting in their second child in eleven fifty, a 326 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 4: second daughter, Alex. Now this wasn't good because at this 327 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 4: point they still had no male heir, which is you know, 328 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 4: lineage when every man of the era wants a male 329 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 4: heir because men are more important than women, so on 330 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 4: and so forth. While this is going on, Louis the 331 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 4: seventh is getting a bit paranoid about the plant. He's 332 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: worried that they're getting too much power and that they're 333 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 4: going to be a real fucking problem for him soon. 334 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 4: And Louis is reading from the playbook that the best 335 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 4: defense is a good offense, so he decides to go 336 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 4: and attack Henry Plantagenet, the Duke of Norman dy Seventeen 337 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 4: year old Henry, meanwhile, is already writing for the English 338 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 4: throne and really didn't need a too pronged attack. 339 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 5: It wasn't good for him, and. 340 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 4: His dad's like, maybe see if you can have a compromise, 341 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 4: and so Henry goes to Paris, meets with Louis, and 342 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 4: they go to work out a peace deal, and this 343 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 4: is where Henry meets Eleanor for the first time. 344 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: At the Classic Tales podcast, we try to get out 345 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: of the way. 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Clearly an impression was made. 363 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 4: So about half a year or so after this event, 364 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 4: the marriage between Eleanor and Louis as an old. Finally 365 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 4: the Pope goes, yes, absolutely, you can do it, and 366 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 4: he allows it because of consanguinity. The pope had decreed 367 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 4: that they were not too closely related an eleven forty nine, 368 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 4: but they were too closely related An eleven fifty two. 369 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 5: Three years. 370 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: Apparently it takes three years to really grasp the understanding 371 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 4: of a family tree. Perhaps that's it, or perhaps it's 372 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 4: something to do with the fact that Eleanor had not 373 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 4: produced any male heirs for Louie. Effectively, Louis wanted to 374 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 4: go marry someone else and start popping out some boys. 375 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 4: And you might be thinking, what happened to the daughters, 376 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 4: the princesses, Well, they're actually okay because the way the 377 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 4: annulment worked, and because the marriage had been entered to 378 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 4: in good faith, So the daughters are still legitimate, they're 379 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 4: not bastardized, they're fine. 380 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 5: It's all good. 381 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: So Eleanor she's like, fuck this for a game of soldiers. 382 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 5: I'm off great, I'm gonna leave now. 383 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 4: And as she's traveling to Platier, two lords tried to 384 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 4: kidnap her so that they could marry her and get 385 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 4: claim to the lands of Equity. These attempts were unsuccessful, 386 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 4: and by the time she lands in Poitier, she sends 387 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 4: envoys straight to Henry and she's like, hey, let's get married, 388 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 4: and Henry's like, yes, absolutely, one hundred percent, And eight 389 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: weeks after her annulment, they get married and Luckily for 390 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 4: Eleanor if she actually and the funny thing is for 391 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 4: Eleanor if she did want an annulment, it's actually easier 392 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 4: because she was. 393 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 5: Third cousins once removed with Louis. 394 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 4: But she's just third cousins straight off with Henry, so 395 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 4: it's it's close enough. So they have this nice and 396 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 4: simple ceremony. It's not the lavish affair that usually you 397 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 4: have when you know, two massive nobles get married, and 398 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: at least to begin with, Eleanor and her Henry are 399 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 4: really into each other, so much so that in just 400 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 4: over a year, Eleanor gives birth to their first son, William. 401 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: In eleven fifty four, Henry succeeds his cousin Steven as 402 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 4: King of England, making his empire the most powerful force 403 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 4: in Western Europe. So the Angevin Empire is so Henry's 404 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 4: empire is fucking massive. It is probably, if I'm not mistaken, 405 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 4: the most powerful force in Western Europe, so much so 406 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: that he was constantly out like, traveling and forcing nobles 407 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 4: to bend the knee, crushing the odd up rise in 408 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 4: here and there. Even though you know, quite busy, Eleanor 409 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 4: and Henry still manage to find time to perform their 410 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 4: marital duties, and in a complete contrast to her marriage 411 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 4: with Louis, in which the first eight years of her 412 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 4: marriage little to know consummating was happening. In the first 413 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 4: six years of her marriage to Henry, Eleanor gives birth 414 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 4: to five children, William, Henry, Matilda, Richard, and Jeffrey. But 415 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 4: she wouldn't stop there after that. She also manages to 416 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 4: give birth to Eleanor, Joan, and John. For the most part, 417 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 4: Henry the second of England and Eleanor of Aquitaine. 418 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 5: Had a pretty standard. 419 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 4: To good marriage for the early medieval period. Henry was 420 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: at least aware that Eleanor was a competent ruler, and 421 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 4: he entrusted her to basically govern When he was out 422 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 4: surveying his lands and whatnot. Henry could not keep it 423 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 4: in his pants, so he was out and he had 424 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 4: many affairs, a fuck ton of illegitimate kids, two of 425 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 4: which he actually acknowledges, and Eleanor seems incredibly chill with this, 426 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 4: probably because it's very typical of the time. 427 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 5: It was just how things were like. 428 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 4: One of his algitimate sons is actually raised by Eleanor, 429 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 4: so he already had elgitimate kids before they got married. 430 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 4: His oldest at George, was actually raised by the Queen 431 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: in her household like that. She was like, yeah, sure, 432 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 4: come on fine, which and he was educated, he was 433 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: well fed. He basically turned out absolutely fine. So Eleanor's 434 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 4: oldest son, William, he passes away at the age of three. 435 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: This still left four sons with whom they had to 436 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: like figure out who was going to inherit what. So effectively, 437 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 4: there's this peace treaty with France. Out of that, it's 438 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 4: decided that young Henry would marry Princess Marguerite, who was 439 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: King Lowie's daughter from his second marriage. 440 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 5: Like he wasn't, Mary and his sister want to make 441 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 5: that clear. 442 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 4: So effectively, young Henry would inherit England, Andrew and Normandy 443 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: Richard would inherittin from his mother. And Jeffrey was betrothed 444 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: to the Duke of Brittany's only child, so that he 445 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 4: would inherit that Dutchey Duchy Duchy. Their youngest son John 446 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 4: here no plans were made for him. So Eleanor and 447 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 4: her husband Henry, they go visit Aquitaine, the whole purpose 448 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 4: of which is to officially in state her as of 449 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 4: the Duchess regent, so that effectively it would still you know, 450 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 4: come under the blank of the English crown, but Elener 451 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 4: would be able to hold her own court there. She 452 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 4: would effectively be the ruler and leader, which is really 453 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 4: handy because this is what she was raised to do. 454 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 4: And also it meant that Henry didn't have to worry 455 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 4: about it because she was looking after it. Also, the 456 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: people of Aquitaine, and because they were ruled by one 457 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 4: of their own, chances are rebellions and whatnot less likely 458 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 4: to happen. So Eleanor's having a great time. She's ruling Aquitaine. 459 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 4: After we will. Her son Richard joins her effectively, because 460 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 4: he's supposed to inherit this anyway, so it's good that 461 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: he gets there, learns the way of the people, and 462 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: you know, is seen, and because they're spending all this 463 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 4: time together they actually become quite close. This creates so 464 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 4: while she's holding court in Aquitaine, it becomes known as 465 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 4: the court of love, and this is where the sort 466 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 4: of the concept of the courtly game of love and 467 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 4: things start, like that's where the seeds come from. 468 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 5: It all starts here. 469 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 4: So she is holding court and she is loving her 470 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: best life. Meanwhile, Henry's stuff isn't going too well. There's 471 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 4: a little thing with Thomas Beckett. He's not really getting 472 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 4: on too well with his sons. Henry the Second had 473 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 4: a habit of making a you know, promises. You see, 474 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: Young Henry isn't too happy because even though he was 475 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: crowned King of England, so he's like a co king 476 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 4: or whatever with his dad, he doesn't actually have any 477 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 4: power and he's getting restless. He's getting a wee bit 478 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 4: unhappy and some might say resentful. And this all comes 479 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 4: to her head because Henry the Second is trying to 480 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: broke her this like marriage deal for his youngest son John. 481 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 5: Now obviously but kurried with him. 482 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 4: He's trying to arrange this deal with and naturally the 483 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 4: question about what lands John is going to bring into 484 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 4: the marriage, like what's that going to be? 485 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 5: And Henry the second is like. 486 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: Uh, three castles and Andrew, which were actually part of 487 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 4: the agreement of inheritance for young Henry. So in a huff, 488 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 4: Young Henry focks off to France to his father in 489 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 4: law Louis the seventh and is like, listen, my dad's 490 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: a dick and he's given away my shit, what the 491 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 4: actual fuck? And Louie's like, hmmm, have you considered rebellion? 492 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 4: And after we chat, Lewis decides to revolt against his dad. 493 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 4: Before heading fact England, he pops into Equity and grabs 494 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 4: two of his brothers, Richard and Jeffrey, and is like, hey, 495 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 4: let's go attack dad. 496 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 5: So fair enough, three brothers, three princes. They're involved. 497 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 4: But but Eleanor she could have just sat on the sidelines, 498 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 4: she could have just waited it out or whatever. However, 499 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 4: she says, fuck this for a game of soldiers and 500 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 4: she rows up against her husband with her sons. Nobody 501 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 4: really knows why she was involved, but so like, there's 502 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: rumors that, you know, she was unhappy, that she was 503 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 4: like deeply jealous and unhappy about Henry's affair with fair 504 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 4: Rosamond something with her, But it's more likely that she thought, well, 505 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 4: three against one, probably best to side with my young, 506 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: strong sons, whom she could probably convince to, you know, 507 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 4: give her back the powers that she was supposed to 508 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 4: have in Aquity. And because Henry had this habit of 509 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: you know, undermining her role consistently, which was super fun 510 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 4: for her anyway. Long story short, Henry basically crushes the revolt. 511 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 4: Don't worry, he forgives his son, but he decides to 512 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: imprison Eleanor for the rest of her days. Except wasn't 513 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 4: quite the rest of her days, it was just the 514 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 4: rest of his sixteen years, mind you. The funny thing 515 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 4: about Eleanor's imprisonment is we don't actually know where she was. 516 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 5: So for the next. 517 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 4: Sixteen years, Eleanor would be held in confinement. She was 518 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 4: basically under house arrest, so she still had servants and 519 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 4: all the sort of relative luxuries, but she was confined. 520 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 5: She couldn't go out. 521 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 4: She didn't really have as much communication, like, she didn't 522 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 4: have the opportunity to speak or see to see her 523 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 4: children or anything like that. 524 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 5: And so Henry would move her. 525 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 4: To different locations over the years, except when she was 526 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 4: brought out for special occasions where he'd be like. 527 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 5: Look, she's still alive. 528 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: And she would like for Christmas and like special holy things. 529 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 4: They'd be like here, here she is great, and then 530 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 4: chuck her back away again. And while she's imprisoned, Henry 531 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 4: the younger he decides to revolt again against his father. 532 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 5: He then gets ill and dies. 533 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 4: And on his deathbed he asks his father to release 534 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 4: his mum and Henry's like, hmm nah, And upon Young 535 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 4: Henry's death, right the King of France is like, I 536 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 4: think Marguerite owns this. Young Henry's widow owns Norman day, Right, 537 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 4: it's hers, she should have it back. But but Henry 538 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 4: the Second declares that those lands were actually Eleanor's, and 539 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 4: upon Henry the. 540 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 5: Younger's death, they actually revert back to her. She is 541 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 5: summoned to Normandy. 542 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 4: She she gets sent there, and so she's confined in Normandy, 543 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 4: but she's there when Henry finally dies in eleven eighty nine. 544 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 4: The first thing that Richard does Richard Lionheart, by the way, 545 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 4: is he sets. 546 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 5: His mother free. 547 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 4: He releases her from confinement, and he goes yep, and 548 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 4: he basically gives her a carte blanche so she can 549 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 4: do whatever the fuck she wants. And what does the 550 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: sixty five year old Eleanor do. What's the first thing 551 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 4: she decides to do? She becomes a prison abolitionist right 552 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 4: and releases every person who is put in jail by 553 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: Henry the Second. Befree my puddies be free, like she 554 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 4: empties the jails. So while Richard the Lionheart is off crusading, 555 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 4: he leaves Eleanor to rule. 556 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 5: In his stead. 557 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 4: And so while he's out, you know, massacring in the 558 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 4: name of God, he gets captured and they're holding him 559 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 4: to ransom. She is ruling England in Richard's name, signing 560 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 4: herself Eleanor, by the Grace of God, Queen of England. 561 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 4: So after he was done crusading, Richard was sailing home 562 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 4: where he's captured and imprisoned in an Austrian castle. He's 563 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 4: then handed over to the German Emperor Henry the Seventh, 564 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: who demands a ransom. So Eleanor raises the money for 565 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 4: this ransom, whereas Prince John is trying to pay the 566 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 4: captors more money to keep Richard prisoner for longer. So yeah, 567 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 4: she raised the money, and she's also like petitioning the 568 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 4: Holy Roman Emperor to sort out the release of her son. 569 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 4: That being said, when John did inherit the throne unexpectedly, 570 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 4: she helped him rule. So Eleanor is still involved with 571 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 4: ruling and negotiating well into her seventies. So in eleven 572 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 4: ninety nine, when she's either seventy five or seventy seven. 573 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 4: One of those the grandson of her ex husband, whose 574 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 4: name you'll ever guess, it's Louis. 575 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 5: His name is Louis. 576 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 4: He's the twelve year old heir apparent to the French throne, 577 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 4: and it's decided that he's gonna marry one of Eleanor's granddaughters, 578 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 4: so she travels to Castile in Spain. 579 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 5: So she sets off. 580 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 4: She's heading to Castile in Spain so that she can 581 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 4: select one of her granddaughters and start the negotiations. But 582 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 4: just outside Plaitier, so she's ambushed and fucking kidnapped by Louis, 583 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 4: the ninth of Lusignan. She basically secures her own release 584 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 4: and then continues on to Castile. So Eleanor decides that 585 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 4: her youngest granddaughter, Blanche, shall be betrothed to Louis, so 586 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 4: she accompanies Blanche as far as the Valley of the Loire, 587 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 4: where the Archbishop of Bordeaux takes over her as her escort. 588 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 4: After that, Eleanor she heads to Fontevrode, where she has 589 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 4: to stay and rest because she's pretty, so much so 590 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 4: that John actually comes and visits her, you know, just 591 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 4: in case. By twelve oh one. A year later, King 592 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 4: John of England and Philippe I of France there at war, 593 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 4: and so the almost eighty year old Eleanor of Aquitaine 594 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 4: declares her support for her son John and sets forth 595 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 4: to Aquitaine. She does this so that she can prevent 596 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 4: her grandson, the Duke of Brittany, from taking control. Now 597 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 4: he discovers that she's in and when he finds out 598 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 4: that she's in the Castle of Mirble, lays siege upon 599 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 4: the castle in which she is residing. Again, nearly eighty 600 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 4: years old, Eleanor of Aquitaine commands the defense of a 601 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 4: castle against the attacks of her own grandson, Arthur of Brittany, 602 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 4: until John managed to send trips in. 603 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 5: To basically quell it. 604 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 4: After this returns to fontiv Road, and after this Eleanor 605 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 4: is like, I'm done, I'm done rolling, I'm done with this. 606 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 4: So she returns to fontiv Road where she takes the 607 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 4: veil as a nun, and on the first of April 608 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 4: twelve oh four, Eleanor of Aquitaine passes away, presumably from 609 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 4: old age, and so ends the life of Eleanor of Aquitaine, 610 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 4: Queen of France, Queen of England. 611 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 5: A survivor of at least four. 612 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 4: Abduction attempts several battles, mother of at least ten children, 613 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 4: including three kings, two queens, and becoming the great grandmother 614 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 4: of two cents. Oh I went in prisoned for sixteen 615 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 4: years and as an oap defended her castle against her 616 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 4: grandson needless to say and who, and at the end 617 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 4: of it decided to become a nun. 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