Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Tiffany Oshinsky, and this is Serving Pancakes with
Speaker 1: League One Volleyball. Over the next few episodes, we will
Speaker 1: follow Team USA's quest for gold at the Paris Olympics.
Speaker 1: As Team USA preps to play Brazil, We're serving you
Speaker 1: a special two part episode for you today. First, we'll
Speaker 1: be joined by twenty sixteen bronze medallist and League One
Speaker 1: Volleyball's head of pro Integration, Courtney Thompson, and then we'll
Speaker 1: head over to the beach to talk with the Beach
Speaker 1: Volleyball twins, Audrey and Nicole Norse, who have over two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand followers on social media and have won four
Speaker 1: straight NCAA championships for USC. Courtney Thompson, welcome back to
Speaker 1: Serving Pancakes.
Speaker 2: Thank you, great to see you, and I'm just looking
Speaker 2: to be on again.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to have you on because you are
Speaker 1: on the ground in Paris, so this is exciting because
Speaker 1: we have true insight on what's going on out there.
Speaker 1: So I was curious what has it been like so far.
Speaker 2: It honestly, if you're a fan of sports and you
Speaker 2: like to travel, this is like best case scenario. It's
Speaker 2: been pretty incredible, you know, like Paris has done incredible job,
Speaker 2: just the infrastructure and how easy they make everything, and
Speaker 2: then of course the food and the drinks are amazing.
Speaker 2: And part of the fun is just I think being
Speaker 2: in all the hype, you know, and seeing people dressed
Speaker 2: up from different countries at a cafe sitting next to
Speaker 2: you and getting to hear about their week and what
Speaker 2: they're watching, and so it's been pretty special.
Speaker 1: We are recording this on Thursday after the men's heartbreaking
Speaker 1: loss in five sets to Poland, and you were there,
Speaker 1: so I'm curious what was the roller coaster of motions
Speaker 1: like and were any of the women's team there to watch.
Speaker 2: You know, we were the women's team, I think watched
Speaker 2: from the village and I was actually watching from our partner,
Speaker 2: the Adida's house, which is amazing. So I didn't get tickets,
Speaker 2: but god, I'm so gutted for them. You know, those
Speaker 2: guys have been together for a long time and at
Speaker 2: this level, as you know, any I mean, the margins
Speaker 2: are so thin, you know, and to lose fifteen thirteen
Speaker 2: in a semi final happened to me once, you know,
Speaker 2: we were in that position in Rio, and you're just
Speaker 2: so close and it's the matter of a few serves
Speaker 2: and a few swings. So you know, in step four
Speaker 2: they they looked so good and they were hot, and
Speaker 2: they were on a roll, and you kind of when
Speaker 2: you catch the momentum, it's like, oh, we got to
Speaker 2: capitalize here. And so I was ready for Poland to
Speaker 2: make a push in the fifth set, and they just
Speaker 2: out executed us a little bit. Incredible group of guys,
Speaker 2: of wonderful staff. So we love them and excited to
Speaker 2: see them fight for bronze.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, at least they're still playing
Speaker 1: for a metal, so we can see them against Italy
Speaker 1: or France, depending on who wins that game. But being
Speaker 1: inside the arena for the women's Games, what is it
Speaker 1: like in that gym, Because as a viewer from home,
Speaker 1: it's seems loud, but I'm sure it's even louder being
Speaker 1: actually there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild. I feel like I'm getting a crash
Speaker 2: course and like fan experience. They've got like two hype
Speaker 2: people there the whole time, so almost every play they're
Speaker 2: on the mic, coornating a cheer or playing some fun
Speaker 2: song and doing something funny on the board. So it
Speaker 2: is it's an awesome venue, like it's beautiful to look at,
Speaker 2: but it's a pretty intimate feel. I feel like in
Speaker 2: the last few Olympics and certainly Tokyo, there's no one there,
Speaker 2: but in Rio and London the fans are pretty far
Speaker 2: from the floor, so you kind of get this big
Speaker 2: arena feel, which can be cool, but it's different when
Speaker 2: people are right there in it with you, and I
Speaker 2: think the energy of that is pretty tangible. So it
Speaker 2: is incredibly fun as a fan. From what I've heard
Speaker 2: from the athletes, they are having a blast too, and
Speaker 2: really enjoying beating off the energy, especially because a lot
Speaker 2: of them are in Tokyo for the first time and
Speaker 2: they missed out, so it's cool to see that.
Speaker 1: Are the hype men hyping up the crowd in general
Speaker 1: or do they sometimes like focus on one team over
Speaker 1: the other?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, they do both mostly, Yeah, mostly in general.
Speaker 2: And then they'll be like, if you're here for USA,
Speaker 2: let's go crazy, you know, and if you're for polling,
Speaker 2: which is also pretty fun. We were at a three
Speaker 2: on three basketball game the other day, the US versus France,
Speaker 2: and there was like ten Americans. What it felt like
Speaker 2: and they'd go, if you're here for USA, you know,
Speaker 2: and we like, whoa trying to be loud and they're like,
Speaker 2: I'm France and it was like, you know, just erupt
Speaker 2: and then they felt that was funny. So it's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's but it all feels like pretty playful. You know,
Speaker 2: you can kind of tell the honor of getting to
Speaker 2: fight for your country and so that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Now, Billy jin King was at the game? Was she
Speaker 1: at the polling game or was she at the France
Speaker 1: issues at the polling game? Have you seen any other
Speaker 1: celebrities at the Women's Games?
Speaker 2: I haven't yet, but I think as we had in
Speaker 2: the semis, it's gonna ge it real. Hopefully we'll see some. Yeah,
Speaker 2: usually there's a few basketball players that come out and
Speaker 2: watch and support, and uh yeah it should be fun
Speaker 2: but really cool that Billy Jinking was there. What an
Speaker 2: icon and someone we all have a lot of gratitude for.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's amazing and I love that she
Speaker 1: was there and that the girls got to meet her
Speaker 1: and speak with her, because yes, icon is the perfect
Speaker 1: word to describe Billy Jinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the women's game over Poland. Because
Speaker 1: they were victorious on Tuesday. They won in three straight
Speaker 1: sets twenty five, twenty two, twenty five, fourteen, twenty five, twenty.
Speaker 1: How has this US team matched up against Poland in
Speaker 1: the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the first time we beat them this squad,
Speaker 2: which is wow. Yeah, it's a long streak and so
Speaker 2: they're obviously a great team. And it was so fun
Speaker 2: because I feel like it was the first time that
Speaker 2: things were really clicking across the board for US, and
Speaker 2: we all knew, like, hey, we have so much good
Speaker 2: volleyball in US US as if I'm still on the team,
Speaker 2: within our team, you are, but to see him, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, they served really aggressively, which I don't know,
Speaker 2: I feel like we dial that up quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Our offense looked as crisp as it has I think
Speaker 2: in the last few years really and defensively, not only
Speaker 2: were we digging a lot of balls, but we got
Speaker 2: to convert them. So for the balls that we dug,
Speaker 2: we're taking really tough swings, which is the name of
Speaker 2: the game at this point in the tournament. So it
Speaker 2: was really cool to see and you could just tell
Speaker 2: like the girls were having fun. You probably stop from
Speaker 2: where you were too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and for you know, speaking of digging, can
Speaker 1: we just talk about Justine Walorantos for a second, because
Speaker 1: that girl is everywhere on the court.
Speaker 2: It's almost like you take it for granted because she
Speaker 2: makes it look so easy. He is phenomenal. And I
Speaker 2: was sitting like two rows in front of her family,
Speaker 2: and it like took everything in me not to just
Speaker 2: turn around every time and be like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: But she's the best and such a great team. Everyone
Speaker 2: loves her. She exudes so much joy and she's such
Speaker 2: a badass, so it's really fun to watch her.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Now, in the second set, the US absolutely
Speaker 1: dominated twenty five to fourteen. It felt like everything was
Speaker 1: just working for them, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to me, they I thought that was the
Speaker 2: best match I've seen Jordan set since she's been back offensively,
Speaker 2: and I know that they've been working on their rhythm,
Speaker 2: and of course Plumber and Skinner have been playing a
Speaker 2: little bit more, and you could just see like they
Speaker 2: were taking more confident approaches based on the timing of
Speaker 2: the setter and getting better swings. And the game is
Speaker 2: one and lost at the pins, you know, and of
Speaker 2: course we have to be great in the middle and
Speaker 2: get something in the offense going there, but really you
Speaker 2: just take so many more swings on the pins that
Speaker 2: that's really meat and potatoes. So to see that happen
Speaker 2: it was great. And then you start feeling kind of
Speaker 2: the momentum and the vibes. You play a little more free,
Speaker 2: and it's exactly where we need to be going into
Speaker 2: the seven. So we were very fired up.
Speaker 1: I'll say, now Avery's gonna Actually there's this one play
Speaker 1: where Avery she pushed the ball out of bounds late
Speaker 1: in the set, and you know, the announcers were laughing
Speaker 1: about it. They were joking that Justine went up to
Speaker 1: her and we're like, you know, it's okay, but you know,
Speaker 1: just don't do that again. But how often do you
Speaker 1: end up in these like high stakes matches like the
Speaker 1: Olympics quarterfinals and find yourself able to joke about a
Speaker 1: miskey like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a cool question. It's such a balance. I
Speaker 2: think Haley wrote something on this on social media about
Speaker 2: like it's so beautiful to kind of to be intense
Speaker 2: and to be in it and to be focused and
Speaker 2: also have moments of levity, and because it is, like
Speaker 2: it's so intense, and everything in the Olympics, both the
Speaker 2: anxiety and the excitement or dialed to one hundred, you know,
Speaker 2: and so to be in that moment and just go, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was weird, and so you know, like what could
Speaker 2: you do and kind of laugh at yourself. And there's
Speaker 2: always those games or practice where it's just an off
Speaker 2: the wall player it. You know, you make this incredible
Speaker 2: dive and it hits you right in the head and
Speaker 2: you're like, well, all right, I'm an idiot. So it's fun.
Speaker 2: It's fun to be able to know the spots of
Speaker 2: when you can kind of laugh at it and move on.
Speaker 1: M knowing that third step set. The US started down
Speaker 1: seven to one, What did this team do to dig
Speaker 1: themselves out of that hole to come back and win?
Speaker 2: Man, there's so many things you can point to, but
Speaker 2: I probably would start with, uh, it's easy to kind
Speaker 2: of let off the gas or to just say, like,
Speaker 2: you know what, we're down. We kicked their butt in
Speaker 2: the first two, like let's go get the fourth, and
Speaker 2: you kind of like, oh, they're they're playing, well, we're not.
Speaker 2: We'll kind of ride this out. And they just stayed
Speaker 2: in the fight. And so much a volleyball if you're
Speaker 2: down seven, it's like, can I just get the next one?
Speaker 2: Can we just get the next one? And they kept
Speaker 2: the service pressure on. I think that's probably the best
Speaker 2: match they served this tournament, which is great, and it's
Speaker 2: all about service pressure. And then when you get the
Speaker 2: ball back either free, you make a good dig and
Speaker 2: you take really tough, aggressive swings and they were just relentless,
Speaker 2: you know. And then we started calling back and polland
Speaker 2: came back a little bit and we stayed in the fight,
Speaker 2: and god, it was fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. And another person I want to talk
Speaker 1: about is the governor herself, Jordan Larson Governor. I mean,
Speaker 1: thirty seven years old, playing in her fourth Olympics, but
Speaker 1: she's playing like she's still twenty five.
Speaker 2: He looks great and it's so cool and I have
Speaker 2: so much respect for I mean, she's the best player
Speaker 2: in the world, you know, and she has been for
Speaker 2: so long and at this point in her career to
Speaker 2: be open to hey, I can start and I can
Speaker 2: be amazing, and I can do all these things. And
Speaker 2: if this is where I'm needed today, I'm here for it.
Speaker 2: And you can tell the players that have been in
Speaker 2: so many tough moments because they just show up and
Speaker 2: they're like, I'm just doing me, you know, and whether
Speaker 2: or not they get an ace or they miss it
Speaker 2: or like, it's not even about that. It's like we
Speaker 2: just went for it. And you can tell when people
Speaker 2: are competing like themselves and when the moment feels really big,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so yeah, she's just
Speaker 2: like writing a playbook on this. She's like, Okay, oh,
Speaker 2: this is what this is when I get good and yeah,
Speaker 2: so much respect for her. She's come in in some
Speaker 2: tough moments and balled out. HM for sure.
Speaker 1: Now Lauren Carlini is back after having that back injury
Speaker 1: after the first match, and Jordan obviously is coming back
Speaker 1: and playing these intense matches after that gnarly knee injury
Speaker 1: in December of twenty twenty two. So obviously the center
Speaker 1: is very important to the game, right they orchestrate the
Speaker 1: entire play. I'm not going to disagree with you there,
Speaker 1: But what are they doing to stay healthy to handle
Speaker 1: this intense situation, especially going into the semis.
Speaker 2: A great question, I think. You know, obviously, physically there's
Speaker 2: so much recovery that we always do massage. You know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of messuses here in the Olympic village,
Speaker 2: norma tech, all the tip stuff they do, ice baths
Speaker 2: when they're at home, certainly like eating and hydrating, well, sleeping,
Speaker 2: all those things. But I think what's unique about this
Speaker 2: tournament is like it's so emotional for many reasons. And
Speaker 2: it's also the thing people don't often talk about is
Speaker 2: most people's entire family is here and family friends, and
Speaker 2: you're getting messages from your kindergarten teacher and it's like beautiful,
Speaker 2: but it's like there's a cost to it energetically, and
Speaker 2: so I think I think the veterans know how to
Speaker 2: recharge their own battery even in a tough environment. And
Speaker 2: the Olympic Village is very cool, but it's not like
Speaker 2: you can go have coffee by yourself before you see
Speaker 2: two hundred people. You know, you're eating meals with everybody,
Speaker 2: and again that that wears on you amidst everything else
Speaker 2: that's going on. So I think what they've done well
Speaker 2: is to find places to kind of recharge their own battery,
Speaker 2: getting time outside of the village with their families and
Speaker 2: friends or just alone so that they can come back
Speaker 2: the next day and like you know, push it because
Speaker 2: it's a lot's required in this tournament. I think too,
Speaker 2: what has blown me away with Jordan, Lauren and Micah
Speaker 2: is it in such a challenging, unique, rare situation. Was
Speaker 2: the first time we have an alternate. Our alternate was used,
Speaker 2: and then Lauren came back and is now healthy. Jordan
Speaker 2: was kind of the question mark, and then that ended
Speaker 2: up happening. They've all stuck together and really committed to
Speaker 2: like being great teammates, honoring their own experience, but also, hey,
Speaker 2: what does the team need? And it's really remarkable at
Speaker 2: this level to stay team oriented and supportive when it's
Speaker 2: not what you would want to have happen. And credit
Speaker 2: to them, and I think it sets the tone for
Speaker 2: the entire team. So for every club athlete listening or
Speaker 2: watching these guys, just know it's not easy to be
Speaker 2: a great teammate when you're not getting what you want.
Speaker 2: But it's a really beautiful thing and it's so much
Speaker 2: bigger than all of us, and they're they're doing it
Speaker 2: the best I've ever seen it.
Speaker 1: Well, So what you said before about not having that
Speaker 1: alone time to kind of recharge, I never really thought
Speaker 1: about that because in my mind I'm thinking when you
Speaker 1: go back to the Olympic village or you know where
Speaker 1: the athletes are, you have like your room, you can relax,
Speaker 1: you can chill. But I guess you and Carly even
Speaker 1: said in the previous episode that you were on that
Speaker 1: you're in a suite basically with other teammates. It's not
Speaker 1: like you're by yourself. So how do you find that time,
Speaker 1: Like where do you go to get that recharge? Is
Speaker 1: it always out of the village trying to find some
Speaker 1: random cafe and wherever you are, or do you find
Speaker 1: like a little corner in the Olympic village where you
Speaker 1: can maybe read for a little or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a little different for everybody. I
Speaker 2: think it's about you know, what works for each person.
Speaker 2: The village usually has a few spots that are like
Speaker 2: a lounge area, or you just sit in the sun
Speaker 2: like the weather's been amazing here, or kind of like
Speaker 2: a walking path. I think for some people getting lost
Speaker 2: in a Sydney in Europe feels like home because they've
Speaker 2: done that in their entire career, so that can be recharging.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes plugging it, plugging in with family and
Speaker 2: just having a meal feels nice. I will lovingly say
Speaker 2: my family's amazing, and at times it's hard to not
Speaker 2: feel kind of they're like so excited for the game,
Speaker 2: what about like you know what I mean? So it
Speaker 2: can also feel a little bit hard. So I'm guessing
Speaker 2: they're all doing it a little bit differently, but I
Speaker 2: they're all trying to be intentional about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then one last question about the poll. In game,
Speaker 1: I heard when the announcers say that Team USA is
Speaker 1: mantra is gritty versus pretty. So I got asked, did
Speaker 1: you think this match was gritty or was it pretty.
Speaker 2: Or b I think both. I think it's the most
Speaker 2: pretty we've seen, and at times it was pretty gritty,
Speaker 2: but it is true like I thought the France match
Speaker 2: was gritty in a way because they weren't in rhythm
Speaker 2: that often. Like it wasn't a feel good match where
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, things are working, we're all in sync.
Speaker 2: It was kind of like, oh this is you know,
Speaker 2: maybe you come into gym some days and you have
Speaker 2: seventy percent of your best and it's like you can't
Speaker 2: quite and instead of judging it, it's like, all right,
Speaker 2: we're gonna do the best with what where we are
Speaker 2: today and keep striving to get a little bit better
Speaker 2: and kind of get out of it. But uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I would say yesterday was pretty and we're hoping that
Speaker 2: the maybe we'll bring both of them with us in
Speaker 2: the Semis for sure.
Speaker 1: So in the Semis, they're playing Brazil, who they beat
Speaker 1: in Tokyo for the Gold Metal. What can we expect
Speaker 1: from this match, dud.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. You've had such a history with Brazil.
Speaker 2: You know, they beat us in London, we beat them
Speaker 2: in Tokyo, they beat us in Beijing. I believe in
Speaker 2: the funds as well, and we can expect a dog fight.
Speaker 2: You know, Brazil is a really talented team. They you know,
Speaker 2: great players in each position. Obviously, they play the game
Speaker 2: to me like it's a dance, So they're like very
Speaker 2: they're just cut a cool rhythm and feel to how
Speaker 2: they play the game. They play pretty fast. Gabby I
Speaker 2: think is probably the best outside in the world right
Speaker 2: now in many ways, and she's really fun to watch.
Speaker 2: And they're super emotional. So when they get going, they
Speaker 2: get going, and they're kind of like this steamroller. And
Speaker 2: so for the US I think it's important when they're
Speaker 2: on to kind of weather the storm and again stay
Speaker 2: in the fight like they have with Poland and Set three,
Speaker 2: and then when they're when they're feeling it, like all right,
Speaker 2: let's go, let's put the pressure on them. I expect
Speaker 2: it'll be, yeah, really tight in every set. We're gonna
Speaker 2: definitely need to serve tough to put a lot of
Speaker 2: pressure on them so we can kind of gang up
Speaker 2: on their outsides a little bit. But I can't wait
Speaker 2: for the match.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so excited. I'm hoping that Chiaka can just
Speaker 1: come out blocking like crazy. I love how the announcers
Speaker 1: are calling her your Chiaka oh block, because that's.
Speaker 3: What she is.
Speaker 1: She's just dominating up there at the net. It's a
Speaker 1: good one, right. I thought it was clever. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give my hat tip to them. Yes that's what
Speaker 1: we need. You can start it off, you can get
Speaker 1: them going in Paris. But yes, this will be very
Speaker 1: exciting to watch the semifinal match in a way. In
Speaker 1: my mind, it's kind of like a gold medal match
Speaker 1: in a way because of how you know, this intense
Speaker 1: rivalry from all the previous games that they've played each other.
Speaker 1: But this is gonna be super exciting, but anything else
Speaker 1: you want to.
Speaker 2: Add, Yeah, I just I think it's a good matchup
Speaker 2: for us playing Brazil, like our styles. You know, in
Speaker 2: this kind of game, the quarterfinals is a hard one
Speaker 2: to win, you know. It's it's so deflating if you're
Speaker 2: out of that one, and then if you win, it's like,
Speaker 2: all right, we get two more games. You're fighting for
Speaker 2: metal no matter what. There's something really special and then
Speaker 2: this match it's just getting more and more charged. I
Speaker 2: keep saying that, but it's it feels like electric, And
Speaker 2: when you're in the gym, when you're walking, when you're
Speaker 2: on the train going, it's just like everyone's pretty heightened,
Speaker 2: and it's so special, and I think I just want
Speaker 2: to say, I think for all of us watching as fans,
Speaker 2: it's I always thought it as an athlete, it's so rare
Speaker 2: to have these days where you get to compete in
Speaker 2: a match like this, Like you train the entire year
Speaker 2: and your entire career to get a handful of these,
Speaker 2: And what a beautiful human experience that we all get
Speaker 2: to be a part of it, and to ride the
Speaker 2: highs and lows and celebrate these humans that are just
Speaker 2: truly like going for it on the world stage, and
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's anything better, And so I
Speaker 2: feel really honored to be a fan and get to
Speaker 2: feel a little bit a part of it. And of course,
Speaker 2: you know, being alumni of the team, and so many
Speaker 2: of these guys are coming to play at home next year,
Speaker 2: so there's something even more special. I think about competing
Speaker 2: right now for everything that's ahead for the USA team.
Speaker 2: So just feeling excited.
Speaker 1: Oh so excited. But real quick, is there a little
Speaker 1: bit of you that kind of wishes you were still
Speaker 1: out there?
Speaker 2: You know what I've I It is like so fun
Speaker 2: knowing that you went for it in your career and
Speaker 2: that it's so like had I not have that experience,
Speaker 2: I would say yes. But we're I'm sitting now, I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, this is pretty great. Fan is like awesome.
Speaker 2: You know. We have like five teammates ex teammates are
Speaker 2: that are here right now and we're having a blast
Speaker 2: just celebrating these guys and it's their turn and they're
Speaker 2: getting after it and we get to have some wine
Speaker 2: and then cheer them on in the match. So I'm
Speaker 2: not complaining.
Speaker 1: You get to enjoy the Parisian wine.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's pretty great.
Speaker 1: So amazing. Well, Courtney, thank you so much for coming
Speaker 1: on and for sharing this insight and when we're excited
Speaker 1: to watch what happens.
Speaker 2: Next, go USA.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Thanks Courtney, Audrey Nicole, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for any meet on serving pancakes.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having us, for having us. We're super
Speaker 3: excited to be here.
Speaker 1: Yes, super excited to have you know, I have to
Speaker 1: start with the Olympics because obviously it's going on. It's
Speaker 1: a big deal. Have you ladies been watching them, and Audrey,
Speaker 1: let's start with you.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I've been watching it a little bit and
Speaker 3: it's been super exciting. It's really great to see former
Speaker 3: teammates in the Olympics right now. I've been keeping up
Speaker 3: with Tina gardena former USC alum, Sarah and Kelly, and
Speaker 3: so it's just it's amazing to see you know, USC
Speaker 3: represent at in Paris twenty twenty four. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 3: it's good. Aud and I are both early risers, so
Speaker 3: a lot of the beach matches started as early as
Speaker 3: six am, same with indoors, so it's it's it's fun
Speaker 3: to be up early and just to to wake up
Speaker 3: to watching sports.
Speaker 1: We love it with the USC alums. Are you guys
Speaker 1: like La twenty twenty eight, I see you.
Speaker 3: That's my whole thing with it is no matter what,
Speaker 3: we will have close friends that are playing in it.
Speaker 3: I think that's always been, you know, and it's it's
Speaker 3: across many sports, you know, we have we have One
Speaker 3: of our former roommates was an Olympic gold medalist for
Speaker 3: the water poolo team in twenty twenty one. One of
Speaker 3: our her best friends that we're friends with is currently
Speaker 3: on the Australian national team, playing and representing Australia and
Speaker 3: the Olympics for water polo. We train next to Corey Bethune,
Speaker 3: one of our good soccer soccer friends went to USC.
Speaker 3: She's she's representing the US right now in Paris on
Speaker 3: the soccer team. There's Ry Benjamin from from track and field.
Speaker 3: There's Michael Norman from track and field. So if the
Speaker 3: USC family is really prominent and strong in the Olympics,
Speaker 3: and it's just so fun to have those connections into
Speaker 3: to see those athletes, dreams really just come to fruition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so cool. Any sort of connection that I find,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, people I grew up with who
Speaker 1: went to my high school or you know, there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of athletes from my area where I currently live
Speaker 1: who went to you know, the high schools nearby who
Speaker 1: are representing in the Olympics. And I'm like, I love this.
Speaker 1: I don't have a personal connection to them, but just
Speaker 1: that camaraderie you feel knowing I mean you guys, actually
Speaker 1: knowing the athletes is way cooler. And to be part
Speaker 1: of the Olympics in that kind of way is such
Speaker 1: a great feeling. Now, going back to beach for a second,
Speaker 1: how cool is the court being right in front of
Speaker 1: the Eiffel Tower.
Speaker 3: So, I mean it's got to be the best stadium
Speaker 3: that's ever been done in the Olympics or in any tournament.
Speaker 3: I mean the fact that it's sitting right underneath the
Speaker 3: Effel Tower, and then at night you get a beautiful
Speaker 3: sunset overlooking the court. I mean, I wish, I wish
Speaker 3: we could be there right now. Yeah, person, yeah, so
Speaker 3: cheering cheering on the teams. I think it's great for
Speaker 3: the sport, and you can see it on TV. That
Speaker 3: stadium is packed every single match and you have athletes
Speaker 3: that are from different sports that are coming to watch.
Speaker 3: I know Snoop Dogg was there at one moment. Well,
Speaker 3: bron was watching watching Karen and Christen that was awesome, so.
Speaker 1: Embarrassing his daughter.
Speaker 3: I think just it's bringing a lot of awareness to
Speaker 3: the sport just being in a phenomenal venue and it
Speaker 3: goes to show what a great venue can do for
Speaker 3: the sport. And seats are being filled. I think it's
Speaker 3: a sport that's that's worthy of more investment because of that,
Speaker 3: because people enjoy watching it. It's really really exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely seems like the marquee event to be
Speaker 1: at just because of how cool the location is. Plus
Speaker 1: the competition is absurd and amazing to watch. So I
Speaker 1: feel like all these people are all of a sudden
Speaker 1: like whoa beach is really cool? And look how awesome
Speaker 1: these athletes are, Like how do they do that with
Speaker 1: just two people on the court keeping them ball up
Speaker 1: for that long? Now for the women, sadly both christ
Speaker 1: and Us and Taring Cloth and Sarah Hughes and Kelly
Speaker 1: Chang were eliminated this week, But how impressed were you
Speaker 1: with them in this run in the Olympics.
Speaker 3: We're both very impressed. It's hard to perform at the
Speaker 3: Olympic level. I mean, we don't know what that's like,
Speaker 3: but it's probably the highest stake environment that you can
Speaker 3: perform in for our sport. It is literally the pinnacle.
Speaker 3: I think both teams showed a lot of grace. They
Speaker 3: they were very fiery, competitive, and it's unfortunate. I think
Speaker 3: it's tough because you know, Canada was such a such
Speaker 3: a solid team and they're playing so well right now
Speaker 3: that it's just kind of that that that balancing between
Speaker 3: being able to hang in there but then also being
Speaker 3: able to be on a roll. I think with beach volleyball,
Speaker 3: you really want to be steady as as can be
Speaker 3: as consistent as possible, and it's really a game of bears.
Speaker 3: If you're making less errors than the other team and
Speaker 3: you're staying mentally composed the whole time, and you're being
Speaker 3: in the moment, taking advantage of every opportunity that comes
Speaker 3: to you, just fully, that's the team that's gonna win.
Speaker 3: I think that's where all four of our USC players
Speaker 3: maybe struggled in and out of keeping that consistent the
Speaker 3: entirety of their matches. But you're seeing it teams like
Speaker 3: Brazil and from Canada, and you know, Tina showed signs
Speaker 3: of that throughout her with Latvia, throughout her progression. I
Speaker 3: didn't see their match this morning, but I saw that
Speaker 3: Brazil kind of handle them a bit easily, relatively just
Speaker 3: based on the score. I don't know the match, but
Speaker 3: those teams that are on a roll, clearly they're just
Speaker 3: out to dominate and kill. And it's kind of the
Speaker 3: mindset you have to have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Kristin Nuss is only five foot six. As
Speaker 1: someone who's only five to three in a quarter, I
Speaker 1: am always in awe at the short women who play
Speaker 1: volleyball because I love seeing that. To me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: represent but how hard is it to be five to
Speaker 1: six and play beach?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it is so hard, especially when you're
Speaker 3: going up against really big tall blockers six three plus.
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to have vision, jump timing, like
Speaker 3: everything has to line up perfectly. When you're at that height,
Speaker 3: you really have no room for air because you need
Speaker 3: to be hitting it at your max. You need to
Speaker 3: be reached at your max every single time, whether it's
Speaker 3: a good set, whether it's a bad set. And so
Speaker 3: she has really amazing footwork. She if you watch her
Speaker 3: in her approach. She'll take like four looks where she's
Speaker 3: in the middle of moving and then her head will
Speaker 3: kind of bop. She'll survey what's in front of her
Speaker 3: and then just finds the open court. Every single time.
Speaker 3: She's so much fun to watch. Yeah, I think what
Speaker 3: she lacks in her height, she completely makes up for
Speaker 3: with every other part of her game. I mean, she's
Speaker 3: one of the best defenders in the world. They did
Speaker 3: this really interesting study at LSU where they tracked every
Speaker 3: athletes speed with their first step. She led every athlete.
Speaker 3: So at the time Jamar Chase was he's a wide receiver.
Speaker 3: I think for the bangals angles faster than him were
Speaker 3: her first wow, which I mean, and it shows on
Speaker 3: the beach court. So she's really speedy, she's really springy.
Speaker 3: She is that her court awareness is phenomenal. And honestly,
Speaker 3: when if you can make up, you know, make up
Speaker 3: with your game in those ways the height, you can
Speaker 3: kind of overcome that that quote unquote bird like what
Speaker 3: we see as a burden. Yeah. Yeah. And then at
Speaker 3: the end of the day too, it's a certain pass game.
Speaker 3: So if you can serve and get a couple of
Speaker 3: aces on your serve and if you can side out
Speaker 3: at eighty percent or above, you're looking at, you know,
Speaker 3: likely a twenty one nineteen eighteen win. Like, if you
Speaker 3: can do that, get a couple of blocks, you've you've
Speaker 3: hopefully won the won the game.
Speaker 1: Now you two have very good ball control when you play.
Speaker 1: Do you, guys, because you've played together a bunch and
Speaker 1: your sisters, do you find that you guys just know
Speaker 1: how to react to different out like different hits to
Speaker 1: the game, or do you guys actually focus more on
Speaker 1: helping each other out saying Okay, I'm blocking line, so
Speaker 1: make sure that you go cross, or how does it
Speaker 1: work for you too when you guys are on the
Speaker 1: court defending.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like, honestly, it's a balance of
Speaker 3: everything that you just said. The trust thing is huge,
Speaker 3: and like it's funny like we'll go through plays where
Speaker 3: we're playing and if we're running a four and Nick
Speaker 3: decides to ditch the call and take ball or do
Speaker 3: something else, and I'm going to a certain spot in
Speaker 3: the court and then it leaves something open. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm trusting her to do this, and then she doesn't.
Speaker 3: That's I don't think that doesn't usually happen like throwing
Speaker 3: out of the bus, I think, but it being is that,
Speaker 3: like you have to have that trust where your blogger's
Speaker 3: going to do their job. Every time you run a call,
Speaker 3: they're going to do that call. And then as a defender,
Speaker 3: you're going to work and put go basically right behind
Speaker 3: them where you're supposed to. So it definitely takes trust.
Speaker 3: Also just experience, like muscle memory, getting reps on reps
Speaker 3: on reps, putting in plus ten thousand hours, getting competition
Speaker 3: in and you kind of start to develop like this
Speaker 3: fifth sense of what you're supposed to be doing in
Speaker 3: all aspects of the game. Yeah, and I think we
Speaker 3: kind of we share that fifth sense, so the just
Speaker 3: to add on really quickly, like we we give each
Speaker 3: other autonomy to make decisions and kind of improvise during
Speaker 3: the play because it's the same decision. My decision is
Speaker 3: what she would make if that makes sense, like yes,
Speaker 3: so she already knows what I'm going to do before
Speaker 3: I do it because we think the same way. We've
Speaker 3: been partners since we were nine or ten, so we
Speaker 3: have that autonomy to be dynamic and do different things
Speaker 3: as well as the expectation of what the other person's
Speaker 3: going to do. If that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, just
Speaker 3: add on.
Speaker 1: Now, you guys are sisters. I know that being sisters
Speaker 1: because I have a sister, everything is great. But it's
Speaker 1: not always rainbows and sunshine right there. There can be
Speaker 1: tense moments between the two. So how did you two
Speaker 1: overcome that? And how did you guys, how are you
Speaker 1: able to play together for so long without there being
Speaker 1: a potential breakup?
Speaker 3: That is a really good question, and we'll just say
Speaker 3: that there have been a lot of tears, and that's
Speaker 3: from when we were twelve when we're now twenty three,
Speaker 3: So you know, it's it's a continuous learning process, and
Speaker 3: you know, we ultimately attribute the fact that we've stayed
Speaker 3: together for this long tour sports psych We've had a
Speaker 3: sports syke since we were sixteen years old and started
Speaker 3: out as you know, calling someone to figure out how
Speaker 3: to play with a sibling, figure out how we can
Speaker 3: be on the court. And I want to rip each
Speaker 3: other's heads off if we're both perfectionists, and so we
Speaker 3: you know, will butt heads. And you know, from that
Speaker 3: point on, as we started to mature over the years,
Speaker 3: it kind of became shifted from a sports psych to
Speaker 3: like a life therapist because there's so many other things
Speaker 3: that you go through outside just being an athlete, whether
Speaker 3: it's you know, who am I without my sport? Who
Speaker 3: am I without my twin? Who am I?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: If I'm injured? So there's there's all these things that
Speaker 3: that we ended up going through and just being able
Speaker 3: to lean on our sports psyche and learning how to
Speaker 3: lean on each other and like really understand what the
Speaker 3: other needs. It's like it's like we're like a real
Speaker 3: like part of partnership, like relationship, like you're with someone.
Speaker 3: It's like a couple. Honestly, it's couples. You have to
Speaker 3: be able to I think we've really learned how to
Speaker 3: communicate with each other and on the court, I've learned, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is what I need first, and then second you've
Speaker 3: learned I need, and vice versa, And so it's becoming
Speaker 3: more self aware than ourselves and then also becoming self
Speaker 3: aware with the other person, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how have your personalities differed when you approach
Speaker 1: playing volleyball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. I think there's just been
Speaker 3: quite the evolution because you know, as twins, we're always
Speaker 3: kind of put in the same stentence. So we've each
Speaker 3: had our own journey with figuring out the player that
Speaker 3: we individually want to be on our own and how
Speaker 3: we can together help each other to be the best
Speaker 3: team possible. I think we're I would probably characterize characterize
Speaker 3: myself as a bit more of like cutthroat e of
Speaker 3: the twin. I mean, we're both pretty high up there
Speaker 3: with how our teammates can can attest to this with
Speaker 3: how we approach things, we're varied by the books, vary
Speaker 3: by the books. We our corners are sharp. We don't
Speaker 3: cut any corners. It's just a non negotiable, and we
Speaker 3: kind of lead with like a momba mental that's the
Speaker 3: athletes that we are, and through our own journeys we've
Speaker 3: had to develop a bit of tenasty resilience, grit just
Speaker 3: being split blockers, being twins, kind of having a target
Speaker 3: on our back a bit, just because we've been in
Speaker 3: the space for so long and we've been competing at
Speaker 3: this level for a long time, so you know it.
Speaker 3: They've evolved in very different ways, but I think interestingly,
Speaker 3: at the same time, they've kind of evolved together to
Speaker 3: create the best team possible and just the best version
Speaker 3: of ourselves for each other, for our team and obviously
Speaker 3: for USC too. I love that.
Speaker 1: What about off the corn, how have you found your
Speaker 1: individual identities outside of being a pair and what do
Speaker 1: you guys like to do differently?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. There's like, honestly, there's not
Speaker 3: much that we like to do differently, just because you know,
Speaker 3: we kind of grew up in the same things, like
Speaker 3: we love to surf, love to cook, we're super into nutrition,
Speaker 3: and then you know, outside of that, like being at USC,
Speaker 3: we really did put our studies first and so we
Speaker 3: kind of always want to make sure that we are
Speaker 3: utilizing every resource there and we eat, Like we even
Speaker 3: had the same majors masters at USC. So, wow, we're
Speaker 3: very similar in our interests. I think personality wise, we're
Speaker 3: a little bit different and I And the great thing
Speaker 3: is that you know, she has a lot of strengths
Speaker 3: that I don't have, and she helps me, and then
Speaker 3: there's things about myself that maybe she doesn't have and
Speaker 3: I can help her.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think when you think about like the character development
Speaker 3: piece outside of your sport, which I think in college
Speaker 3: is really it's kind of the first time you're on
Speaker 3: your own you really figure out the person that you
Speaker 3: want to be. We've been so integral in each other's
Speaker 3: lives in that facet of you know, kind of pointing
Speaker 3: out like hey, like if there's a certain situation, like
Speaker 3: maybe you could have handled this better, Like how can
Speaker 3: we treat people the way that they want to be treated?
Speaker 3: How can we take these teammates that we see as
Speaker 3: lights and that have such a good impact on us
Speaker 3: and say, wow, how can like look at how why
Speaker 3: are they that way? And how can we have an
Speaker 3: impact on other people in a similar light? And it
Speaker 3: goes beyond sports. So I think like that character development
Speaker 3: piece is always having someone with you, not necessarily that
Speaker 3: it's nitpicking things at all, but it's just kind of
Speaker 3: growing with you for those growing with you through those
Speaker 3: experiences and saying like, hey, like how can we be
Speaker 3: better people through this? And how can we be better
Speaker 3: people to each other and better people to those around us?
Speaker 3: And you end up having just such a more fruitful experience.
Speaker 1: Have you found that this tight relationship, the fact that
Speaker 1: you guys have such similar such you know, the same similarities,
Speaker 1: the same likes, the same things that you like to
Speaker 1: do cooking and things like that. Have you found that
Speaker 1: that has really helped you with your social media because
Speaker 1: your social media presidence has grown exponentially, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that definitely has. Because when we
Speaker 3: started out, we I think we created that page and
Speaker 3: we were around sixteen years old and there really wasn't
Speaker 3: any beach volleyball social media pages out there at the time.
Speaker 3: So we've been growing it for a while and kind
Speaker 3: of when we got to USC we thought okay, and
Speaker 3: with Nil when that came a thing, I think spring
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty one, we really thought, okay, this, I
Speaker 3: think we should really transition this from a volleyball brand
Speaker 3: to a lifestyle brand. And so once you know, COVID
Speaker 3: happened and volleyball was kind of taken away, we sort
Speaker 3: of really got into nutrition, really got into cooking, really
Speaker 3: got into working out, which we were always into working out,
Speaker 3: but when you don't have volleyball, it's like all you do.
Speaker 3: We were like hyper focused on it, and then we
Speaker 3: started to kind of explore those aspects of our brand
Speaker 3: and really like wanted to create distinct content pillars that
Speaker 3: we could be posting just to differentiate our content and
Speaker 3: kind of bring out like this more full fledged brand. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it just goes back to the
Speaker 3: idea that all athletes are more than athletes, and there
Speaker 3: is a reason that they are wired a certain way,
Speaker 3: and if they see success in their sport, there's a
Speaker 3: very definitive reason for it, whether it's the experiences they've
Speaker 3: had or their daily habits that is just so ingrained
Speaker 3: it becomes a lifestyle and having a work ethic where
Speaker 3: it's really like a lifestyle. The way you do one
Speaker 3: thing is the way you do everything. So we thought,
Speaker 3: how can we portray it up to the world so
Speaker 3: that other athletes can get an inside look into how
Speaker 3: we do things, so that maybe we can learn from
Speaker 3: other athletes. We've always appreciated to athletes and just individuals
Speaker 3: with some sort of following that give a very authentic
Speaker 3: inside look and to see how are they the way
Speaker 3: that they are, Why are they wired this way? What
Speaker 3: got them there? And so that was kind of the
Speaker 3: precipice of this and the impetus of like, Okay, that's
Speaker 3: what we want to portray. How how can we do that?
Speaker 1: I love that actually, because I feel, especially with indoor volleyball,
Speaker 1: you know, the unlike football, who where you have you know,
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks or your you know, wide receivers or even
Speaker 1: soccer goalies, whatever it might be. Baseball players, your pitchers,
Speaker 1: you know, very specific positions that you can kind of
Speaker 1: become a one off and really showcase who you are.
Speaker 1: I feel like for indoor volleyball especially, you know, it's
Speaker 1: such a team sport that we haven't had a chance
Speaker 1: to really see individual players really shine because they're also
Speaker 1: such a team that they want to be seen as
Speaker 1: a team. And for beach volleyball, I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: you two as as sisters, but even YouTube together, you
Speaker 1: do have this individual opportunity to showcase who you are
Speaker 1: because it's the two of you, right, It's small, and
Speaker 1: I feel like what you're saying about, you know, the
Speaker 1: content that you put out and how you can showcase
Speaker 1: yourself as an athlete, because athletes are more than just athletes,
Speaker 1: they are people too, I feel it is really important.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're telling a story, right, and I
Speaker 3: think I think there are indoor athletes that really have
Speaker 3: that impact though. I mean, if you look at Logan
Speaker 3: Eggleston in her last year at Texas, they did a
Speaker 3: great piece on like how she may want to be president,
Speaker 3: like I remember doing I remember seeing this piece and
Speaker 3: I was like whoa, Like who is this girl? And
Speaker 3: then when you get to meet Logan in person, she's
Speaker 3: it all makes sense, like that that person is special,
Speaker 3: she's there for a reason and she's going to have
Speaker 3: a great impact. So I think when you have schools
Speaker 3: and you have the Nce DOUBLEA and different brands and
Speaker 3: outlets that are creating content in that way around these
Speaker 3: individual athletes, they really do have a very compelling story
Speaker 3: to tell. And you know, indoor vival is a team sport,
Speaker 3: but I think there is that opportunity to grow those
Speaker 3: individual brands and just give an inside look because you know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different differentiation in indoor Every position
Speaker 3: is different. I mean, looking at it, it's funny like if
Speaker 3: you look at the international whatever just or volleyball, like
Speaker 3: it's Nola Bearro is really taller than five eight, you know,
Speaker 3: but you know the whole I always think that's so
Speaker 3: fascinating that that that there is such a like a
Speaker 3: high differential of that and like what did they do?
Speaker 3: They don't they don't necessarily get all of the praise
Speaker 3: because they're not the one that's putting the ball away
Speaker 3: every play. But so what is that like?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: What is like? There are different storylines that can come
Speaker 3: out of of every sport, I think, and it's just
Speaker 3: a matter of curating the right platform to to kind
Speaker 3: of push push that content out.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Well, speaking of storylines, I feel like
Speaker 1: this is a perfect segue to talk about storylines of
Speaker 1: movies and TV shows that feature volleyball, because we wanted
Speaker 1: to do a little bit of movie TV volleyball trivia
Speaker 1: with you are you ladies game? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yes, so either we are not big movie jonkies.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I feel like there's some that might
Speaker 1: be a little tricky, but there's some that I feel
Speaker 1: like you should be able to get just based on
Speaker 1: either context clues or just the popular movies like Geist.
Speaker 1: So we'll start with this one. Which movie character was
Speaker 1: in love with a vampire and also really bad at volleyball.
Speaker 3: I have not.
Speaker 1: I can give you a hint if you'd like.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I love a hint.
Speaker 1: It was originally a book series that they turned into
Speaker 1: a movie about vampires. Yes, so yeah, movies Twilight, and
Speaker 1: the character was Bella played by Kristin Stewart, great actress,
Speaker 1: not very good at volleyball in the movie? All right?
Speaker 1: Next question, which movie did Val Kilmer and Tom Cruise
Speaker 1: go head to head in an iconic volleyball match? Yes,
Speaker 1: Top Gun, what a great, great scene scene.
Speaker 3: The volleyball is not, but it was a good scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Number three? Which show? In the episode
Speaker 1: Company Picnic, is it revealed that the receptionist is a
Speaker 1: talented volleyball player during an employee volleyball game.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I love the Office too. As volleyball players?
Speaker 1: Do you get annoyed watching Pam serve because she's horrible
Speaker 1: at serving? Every time I watch it, they like they
Speaker 1: showed you like a horrible like jump and like smack,
Speaker 1: and then they quickly cut away because they know it's
Speaker 1: not real.
Speaker 3: It's funny because she's kind of put out to be
Speaker 3: like excuse me, not like she's put out to be
Speaker 3: the office is the company's best player, but the volleyball
Speaker 3: is really not that great. So it's but for those
Speaker 3: that don't play this port, and you could kind of
Speaker 3: see how it works. It works, it goes with the storyline.
Speaker 1: I'm all for it, and I give mad props to
Speaker 1: Jennifisher for going through that all right number four, which
Speaker 1: Dog discovered he had an uncanny ability to play volleyball
Speaker 1: after he played uncanny basketball.
Speaker 3: Is it like airbud or something?
Speaker 1: Yes, airbud in airbud spikes back.
Speaker 3: Oh the basketball was great.
Speaker 1: Well done, all right in the last one, which I
Speaker 1: think may be the hardest one because of how old
Speaker 1: you ladies are, but which late nineties and early two
Speaker 1: thousand's MTV cartoon character had volleyball as part of the
Speaker 1: intro to the show, this brown haired glasses wearing introvert
Speaker 1: no idea.
Speaker 3: No John Blake, Daria.
Speaker 1: Did you even know what Daria is? I was thinking
Speaker 1: that was like, I don't know if they're gonna know Daria.
Speaker 1: But as someone as a millennium grew up watching that show,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Daria, all you ladies did really well.
Speaker 1: I thank you guy. Uh basically four out of five
Speaker 1: that Darya one was little fun, It's really good. I
Speaker 1: thought you did great well. Ladies. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for being on serving pancakes. It was lovely talking with you,
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see ladies out on the
Speaker 1: beach wherever, wherever the sand may take you.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. We're so happy to be thank
Speaker 3: you so much for having us on.
Speaker 1: By the way, if you're new to volleyball, make sure
Speaker 1: you check out Kayles Stapleton, who played volleyball at San
Speaker 1: Diego and professionally overseas for three years, and Devin Newberry,
Speaker 1: who played beach volleyball for UCLA. They'll be posting Volleyball
Speaker 1: one oh one on our social channels at love That's
Speaker 1: at l ovb to help you understand the rules, positions,
Speaker 1: and everything in between. To make sure to follow so
Speaker 1: you don't serving. Pancakes is an iHeart women's sports production
Speaker 1: in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can
Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Production by League one Volleyball, I'm
Speaker 1: your host Tiffany Oshinsky. Anya Alvarez is our senior producer.
Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Carrie Stett, Tamara Daiki, and Lindsay Hoffman.
Speaker 1: Our marketing lead is Jawara Parker. Sound editing and mixing
Speaker 1: by Cody Nelson. Our theme music is Pancakes by Eric W.
Speaker 1: Mast Junior. Stay tuned for our next episode, where we
Speaker 1: break down team USA semifinals match against Brazil. Thanks for listening,