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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Tiffany Oshinsky, and this is Serving Pancakes with

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Speaker 1: League One Volleyball. Over the next few episodes, we will

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Speaker 1: follow Team USA's quest for gold at the Paris Olympics.

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Speaker 1: As Team USA preps to play Brazil, We're serving you

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Speaker 1: a special two part episode for you today. First, we'll

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Speaker 1: be joined by twenty sixteen bronze medallist and League One

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Speaker 1: Volleyball's head of pro Integration, Courtney Thompson, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: head over to the beach to talk with the Beach

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Speaker 1: Volleyball twins, Audrey and Nicole Norse, who have over two

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand followers on social media and have won four

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Speaker 1: straight NCAA championships for USC. Courtney Thompson, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Serving Pancakes.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, great to see you, and I'm just looking

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Speaker 2: to be on again.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to have you on because you are

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Speaker 1: on the ground in Paris, so this is exciting because

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Speaker 1: we have true insight on what's going on out there.

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Speaker 1: So I was curious what has it been like so far.

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Speaker 2: It honestly, if you're a fan of sports and you

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Speaker 2: like to travel, this is like best case scenario. It's

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Speaker 2: been pretty incredible, you know, like Paris has done incredible job,

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Speaker 2: just the infrastructure and how easy they make everything, and

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Speaker 2: then of course the food and the drinks are amazing.

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Speaker 2: And part of the fun is just I think being

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Speaker 2: in all the hype, you know, and seeing people dressed

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Speaker 2: up from different countries at a cafe sitting next to

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Speaker 2: you and getting to hear about their week and what

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Speaker 1: We are recording this on Thursday after the men's heartbreaking

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Speaker 1: loss in five sets to Poland, and you were there,

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Speaker 1: so I'm curious what was the roller coaster of motions

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Speaker 1: like and were any of the women's team there to watch.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were the women's team, I think watched

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Speaker 2: from the village and I was actually watching from our partner,

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Speaker 2: the Adida's house, which is amazing. So I didn't get tickets,

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Speaker 2: but god, I'm so gutted for them. You know, those

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Speaker 2: we were in that position in Rio, and you're just

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Speaker 2: they they looked so good and they were hot, and

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Speaker 2: make a push in the fifth set, and they just

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Speaker 2: see them fight for bronze.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, at least they're still playing

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Speaker 1: it's seems loud, but I'm sure it's even louder being

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild. I feel like I'm getting a crash

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Speaker 2: course and like fan experience. They've got like two hype

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Speaker 1: Now, Billy jin King was at the game? Was she

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's amazing and I love that she

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the women's game over Poland. Because

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Speaker 1: they were victorious on Tuesday. They won in three straight

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Speaker 1: How has this US team matched up against Poland in

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Speaker 2: But she's the best and such a great team. Everyone

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Now, in the second set, the US absolutely

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to me, they I thought that was the

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Speaker 2: like it's so beautiful to kind of to be intense

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Speaker 1: M knowing that third step set. The US started down

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Speaker 2: Man, there's so many things you can point to, but

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Speaker 2: I probably would start with, uh, it's easy to kind

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Speaker 2: you know what, we're down. We kicked their butt in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. And another person I want to talk

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited. You've had such a history with Brazil.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so excited. I'm hoping that Chiaka can just

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Speaker 1: Oh so excited. But real quick, is there a little

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Speaker 2: You know what I've I It is like so fun

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Speaker 2: You know. We have like five teammates ex teammates are

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Speaker 1: You get to enjoy the Parisian wine.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's pretty great.

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Speaker 1: So amazing. Well, Courtney, thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 2: Next, go USA.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having us, for having us. We're super

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Speaker 1: Yes, super excited to have you know, I have to

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I've been watching it a little bit and

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Speaker 3: it's good. Aud and I are both early risers, so

434
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Speaker 3: a lot of the beach matches started as early as

435
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Speaker 3: six am, same with indoors, so it's it's it's fun

436
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,959
Speaker 3: to be up early and just to to wake up

437
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 3: to watching sports.

438
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Speaker 1: We love it with the USC alums. Are you guys

439
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 1: like La twenty twenty eight, I see you.

440
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: That's my whole thing with it is no matter what,

441
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 3: we will have close friends that are playing in it.

442
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 3: I think that's always been, you know, and it's it's

443
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 3: across many sports, you know, we have we have One

444
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: of our former roommates was an Olympic gold medalist for

445
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 3: the water poolo team in twenty twenty one. One of

446
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 3: our her best friends that we're friends with is currently

447
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 3: on the Australian national team, playing and representing Australia and

448
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 3: the Olympics for water polo. We train next to Corey Bethune,

449
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 3: one of our good soccer soccer friends went to USC.

450
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 3: She's she's representing the US right now in Paris on

451
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 3: the soccer team. There's Ry Benjamin from from track and field.

452
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Speaker 3: There's Michael Norman from track and field. So if the

453
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 3: USC family is really prominent and strong in the Olympics,

454
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 3: and it's just so fun to have those connections into

455
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: to see those athletes, dreams really just come to fruition.

456
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so cool. Any sort of connection that I find,

457
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, people I grew up with who

458
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 1: went to my high school or you know, there's a

459
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 1: bunch of athletes from my area where I currently live

460
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: who went to you know, the high schools nearby who

461
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: are representing in the Olympics. And I'm like, I love this.

462
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't have a personal connection to them, but just

463
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: that camaraderie you feel knowing I mean you guys, actually

464
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: knowing the athletes is way cooler. And to be part

465
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: of the Olympics in that kind of way is such

466
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: a great feeling. Now, going back to beach for a second,

467
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: how cool is the court being right in front of

468
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Speaker 1: the Eiffel Tower.

469
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Speaker 3: So, I mean it's got to be the best stadium

470
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: that's ever been done in the Olympics or in any tournament.

471
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: I mean the fact that it's sitting right underneath the

472
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Speaker 3: Effel Tower, and then at night you get a beautiful

473
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 3: sunset overlooking the court. I mean, I wish, I wish

474
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 3: we could be there right now. Yeah, person, yeah, so

475
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 3: cheering cheering on the teams. I think it's great for

476
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: the sport, and you can see it on TV. That

477
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 3: stadium is packed every single match and you have athletes

478
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 3: that are from different sports that are coming to watch.

479
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: I know Snoop Dogg was there at one moment. Well,

480
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 3: bron was watching watching Karen and Christen that was awesome, so.

481
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: Embarrassing his daughter.

482
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Speaker 3: I think just it's bringing a lot of awareness to

483
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: the sport just being in a phenomenal venue and it

484
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 3: goes to show what a great venue can do for

485
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 3: the sport. And seats are being filled. I think it's

486
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: a sport that's that's worthy of more investment because of that,

487
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: because people enjoy watching it. It's really really exciting.

488
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely seems like the marquee event to be

489
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: at just because of how cool the location is. Plus

490
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: the competition is absurd and amazing to watch. So I

491
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: feel like all these people are all of a sudden

492
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: like whoa beach is really cool? And look how awesome

493
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: these athletes are, Like how do they do that with

494
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: just two people on the court keeping them ball up

495
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: for that long? Now for the women, sadly both christ

496
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: and Us and Taring Cloth and Sarah Hughes and Kelly

497
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: Chang were eliminated this week, But how impressed were you

498
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: with them in this run in the Olympics.

499
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Speaker 3: We're both very impressed. It's hard to perform at the

500
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 3: Olympic level. I mean, we don't know what that's like,

501
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 3: but it's probably the highest stake environment that you can

502
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: perform in for our sport. It is literally the pinnacle.

503
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 3: I think both teams showed a lot of grace. They

504
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 3: they were very fiery, competitive, and it's unfortunate. I think

505
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 3: it's tough because you know, Canada was such a such

506
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 3: a solid team and they're playing so well right now

507
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 3: that it's just kind of that that that balancing between

508
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: being able to hang in there but then also being

509
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 3: able to be on a roll. I think with beach volleyball,

510
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: you really want to be steady as as can be

511
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 3: as consistent as possible, and it's really a game of bears.

512
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: If you're making less errors than the other team and

513
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: you're staying mentally composed the whole time, and you're being

514
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 3: in the moment, taking advantage of every opportunity that comes

515
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: to you, just fully, that's the team that's gonna win.

516
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: I think that's where all four of our USC players

517
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: maybe struggled in and out of keeping that consistent the

518
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: entirety of their matches. But you're seeing it teams like

519
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: Brazil and from Canada, and you know, Tina showed signs

520
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: of that throughout her with Latvia, throughout her progression. I

521
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: didn't see their match this morning, but I saw that

522
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: Brazil kind of handle them a bit easily, relatively just

523
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: based on the score. I don't know the match, but

524
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: those teams that are on a roll, clearly they're just

525
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 3: out to dominate and kill. And it's kind of the

526
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,239
Speaker 3: mindset you have to have.

527
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Kristin Nuss is only five foot six. As

528
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: someone who's only five to three in a quarter, I

529
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: am always in awe at the short women who play

530
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: volleyball because I love seeing that. To me, I'm like,

531
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Speaker 1: represent but how hard is it to be five to

532
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: six and play beach?

533
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it is so hard, especially when you're

534
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: going up against really big tall blockers six three plus.

535
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to have vision, jump timing, like

536
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: everything has to line up perfectly. When you're at that height,

537
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 3: you really have no room for air because you need

538
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: to be hitting it at your max. You need to

539
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: be reached at your max every single time, whether it's

540
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 3: a good set, whether it's a bad set. And so

541
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 3: she has really amazing footwork. She if you watch her

542
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 3: in her approach. She'll take like four looks where she's

543
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 3: in the middle of moving and then her head will

544
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: kind of bop. She'll survey what's in front of her

545
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: and then just finds the open court. Every single time.

546
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: She's so much fun to watch. Yeah, I think what

547
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: she lacks in her height, she completely makes up for

548
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 3: with every other part of her game. I mean, she's

549
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: one of the best defenders in the world. They did

550
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: this really interesting study at LSU where they tracked every

551
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 3: athletes speed with their first step. She led every athlete.

552
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 3: So at the time Jamar Chase was he's a wide receiver.

553
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: I think for the bangals angles faster than him were

554
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: her first wow, which I mean, and it shows on

555
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: the beach court. So she's really speedy, she's really springy.

556
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 3: She is that her court awareness is phenomenal. And honestly,

557
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: when if you can make up, you know, make up

558
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 3: with your game in those ways the height, you can

559
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: kind of overcome that that quote unquote bird like what

560
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: we see as a burden. Yeah. Yeah. And then at

561
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: the end of the day too, it's a certain pass game.

562
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: So if you can serve and get a couple of

563
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: aces on your serve and if you can side out

564
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: at eighty percent or above, you're looking at, you know,

565
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: likely a twenty one nineteen eighteen win. Like, if you

566
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: can do that, get a couple of blocks, you've you've

567
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: hopefully won the won the game.

568
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: Now you two have very good ball control when you play.

569
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: Do you, guys, because you've played together a bunch and

570
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: your sisters, do you find that you guys just know

571
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: how to react to different out like different hits to

572
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: the game, or do you guys actually focus more on

573
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: helping each other out saying Okay, I'm blocking line, so

574
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: make sure that you go cross, or how does it

575
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: work for you too when you guys are on the

576
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: court defending.

577
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like, honestly, it's a balance of

578
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: everything that you just said. The trust thing is huge,

579
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: and like it's funny like we'll go through plays where

580
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: we're playing and if we're running a four and Nick

581
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: decides to ditch the call and take ball or do

582
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: something else, and I'm going to a certain spot in

583
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: the court and then it leaves something open. It's like, Okay,

584
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 3: I'm trusting her to do this, and then she doesn't.

585
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: That's I don't think that doesn't usually happen like throwing

586
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: out of the bus, I think, but it being is that,

587
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: like you have to have that trust where your blogger's

588
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: going to do their job. Every time you run a call,

589
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: they're going to do that call. And then as a defender,

590
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: you're going to work and put go basically right behind

591
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: them where you're supposed to. So it definitely takes trust.

592
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: Also just experience, like muscle memory, getting reps on reps

593
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: on reps, putting in plus ten thousand hours, getting competition

594
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: in and you kind of start to develop like this

595
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: fifth sense of what you're supposed to be doing in

596
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: all aspects of the game. Yeah, and I think we

597
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: kind of we share that fifth sense, so the just

598
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: to add on really quickly, like we we give each

599
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: other autonomy to make decisions and kind of improvise during

600
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: the play because it's the same decision. My decision is

601
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: what she would make if that makes sense, like yes,

602
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 3: so she already knows what I'm going to do before

603
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: I do it because we think the same way. We've

604
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: been partners since we were nine or ten, so we

605
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: have that autonomy to be dynamic and do different things

606
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: as well as the expectation of what the other person's

607
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: going to do. If that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, just

608
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: add on.

609
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: Now, you guys are sisters. I know that being sisters

610
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: because I have a sister, everything is great. But it's

611
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: not always rainbows and sunshine right there. There can be

612
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: tense moments between the two. So how did you two

613
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: overcome that? And how did you guys, how are you

614
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: able to play together for so long without there being

615
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: a potential breakup?

616
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: That is a really good question, and we'll just say

617
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: that there have been a lot of tears, and that's

618
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: from when we were twelve when we're now twenty three,

619
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: So you know, it's it's a continuous learning process, and

620
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: you know, we ultimately attribute the fact that we've stayed

621
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: together for this long tour sports psych We've had a

622
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: sports syke since we were sixteen years old and started

623
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: out as you know, calling someone to figure out how

624
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: to play with a sibling, figure out how we can

625
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: be on the court. And I want to rip each

626
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: other's heads off if we're both perfectionists, and so we

627
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: you know, will butt heads. And you know, from that

628
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: point on, as we started to mature over the years,

629
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: it kind of became shifted from a sports psych to

630
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: like a life therapist because there's so many other things

631
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: that you go through outside just being an athlete, whether

632
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: it's you know, who am I without my sport? Who

633
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 3: am I without my twin? Who am I?

634
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: You know?

635
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: If I'm injured? So there's there's all these things that

636
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: that we ended up going through and just being able

637
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: to lean on our sports psyche and learning how to

638
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: lean on each other and like really understand what the

639
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: other needs. It's like it's like we're like a real

640
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: like part of partnership, like relationship, like you're with someone.

641
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: It's like a couple. Honestly, it's couples. You have to

642
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: be able to I think we've really learned how to

643
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: communicate with each other and on the court, I've learned, Okay,

644
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: this is what I need first, and then second you've

645
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: learned I need, and vice versa, And so it's becoming

646
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: more self aware than ourselves and then also becoming self

647
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: aware with the other person, if that makes sense.

648
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how have your personalities differed when you approach

649
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: playing volleyball.

650
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. I think there's just been

651
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: quite the evolution because you know, as twins, we're always

652
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: kind of put in the same stentence. So we've each

653
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: had our own journey with figuring out the player that

654
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: we individually want to be on our own and how

655
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: we can together help each other to be the best

656
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: team possible. I think we're I would probably characterize characterize

657
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: myself as a bit more of like cutthroat e of

658
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: the twin. I mean, we're both pretty high up there

659
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: with how our teammates can can attest to this with

660
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: how we approach things, we're varied by the books, vary

661
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: by the books. We our corners are sharp. We don't

662
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: cut any corners. It's just a non negotiable, and we

663
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: kind of lead with like a momba mental that's the

664
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: athletes that we are, and through our own journeys we've

665
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: had to develop a bit of tenasty resilience, grit just

666
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: being split blockers, being twins, kind of having a target

667
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: on our back a bit, just because we've been in

668
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: the space for so long and we've been competing at

669
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: this level for a long time, so you know it.

670
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 3: They've evolved in very different ways, but I think interestingly,

671
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 3: at the same time, they've kind of evolved together to

672
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 3: create the best team possible and just the best version

673
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: of ourselves for each other, for our team and obviously

674
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: for USC too. I love that.

675
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: What about off the corn, how have you found your

676
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: individual identities outside of being a pair and what do

677
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: you guys like to do differently?

678
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. There's like, honestly, there's not

679
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: much that we like to do differently, just because you know,

680
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: we kind of grew up in the same things, like

681
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 3: we love to surf, love to cook, we're super into nutrition,

682
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: and then you know, outside of that, like being at USC,

683
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 3: we really did put our studies first and so we

684
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: kind of always want to make sure that we are

685
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: utilizing every resource there and we eat, Like we even

686
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 3: had the same majors masters at USC. So, wow, we're

687
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: very similar in our interests. I think personality wise, we're

688
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 3: a little bit different and I And the great thing

689
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: is that you know, she has a lot of strengths

690
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: that I don't have, and she helps me, and then

691
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: there's things about myself that maybe she doesn't have and

692
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: I can help her.

693
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

694
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: I think when you think about like the character development

695
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: piece outside of your sport, which I think in college

696
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: is really it's kind of the first time you're on

697
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: your own you really figure out the person that you

698
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: want to be. We've been so integral in each other's

699
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 3: lives in that facet of you know, kind of pointing

700
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: out like hey, like if there's a certain situation, like

701
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 3: maybe you could have handled this better, Like how can

702
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: we treat people the way that they want to be treated?

703
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: How can we take these teammates that we see as

704
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: lights and that have such a good impact on us

705
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 3: and say, wow, how can like look at how why

706
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: are they that way? And how can we have an

707
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: impact on other people in a similar light? And it

708
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: goes beyond sports. So I think like that character development

709
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: piece is always having someone with you, not necessarily that

710
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: it's nitpicking things at all, but it's just kind of

711
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: growing with you for those growing with you through those

712
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: experiences and saying like, hey, like how can we be

713
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 3: better people through this? And how can we be better

714
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 3: people to each other and better people to those around us?

715
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: And you end up having just such a more fruitful experience.

716
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: Have you found that this tight relationship, the fact that

717
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: you guys have such similar such you know, the same similarities,

718
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: the same likes, the same things that you like to

719
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: do cooking and things like that. Have you found that

720
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: that has really helped you with your social media because

721
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: your social media presidence has grown exponentially, right.

722
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that definitely has. Because when we

723
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: started out, we I think we created that page and

724
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 3: we were around sixteen years old and there really wasn't

725
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 3: any beach volleyball social media pages out there at the time.

726
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: So we've been growing it for a while and kind

727
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: of when we got to USC we thought okay, and

728
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 3: with Nil when that came a thing, I think spring

729
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty one, we really thought, okay, this, I

730
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: think we should really transition this from a volleyball brand

731
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: to a lifestyle brand. And so once you know, COVID

732
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: happened and volleyball was kind of taken away, we sort

733
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: of really got into nutrition, really got into cooking, really

734
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: got into working out, which we were always into working out,

735
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: but when you don't have volleyball, it's like all you do.

736
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: We were like hyper focused on it, and then we

737
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: started to kind of explore those aspects of our brand

738
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: and really like wanted to create distinct content pillars that

739
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: we could be posting just to differentiate our content and

740
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: kind of bring out like this more full fledged brand. Yeah.

741
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it just goes back to the

742
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: idea that all athletes are more than athletes, and there

743
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 3: is a reason that they are wired a certain way,

744
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: and if they see success in their sport, there's a

745
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: very definitive reason for it, whether it's the experiences they've

746
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: had or their daily habits that is just so ingrained

747
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: it becomes a lifestyle and having a work ethic where

748
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: it's really like a lifestyle. The way you do one

749
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 3: thing is the way you do everything. So we thought,

750
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: how can we portray it up to the world so

751
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: that other athletes can get an inside look into how

752
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: we do things, so that maybe we can learn from

753
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: other athletes. We've always appreciated to athletes and just individuals

754
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: with some sort of following that give a very authentic

755
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 3: inside look and to see how are they the way

756
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: that they are, Why are they wired this way? What

757
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: got them there? And so that was kind of the

758
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 3: precipice of this and the impetus of like, Okay, that's

759
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: what we want to portray. How how can we do that?

760
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: I love that actually, because I feel, especially with indoor volleyball,

761
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, the unlike football, who where you have you know,

762
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks or your you know, wide receivers or even

763
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: soccer goalies, whatever it might be. Baseball players, your pitchers,

764
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, very specific positions that you can kind of

765
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: become a one off and really showcase who you are.

766
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: I feel like for indoor volleyball especially, you know, it's

767
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: such a team sport that we haven't had a chance

768
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: to really see individual players really shine because they're also

769
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: such a team that they want to be seen as

770
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: a team. And for beach volleyball, I feel like, you know,

771
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: you two as as sisters, but even YouTube together, you

772
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: do have this individual opportunity to showcase who you are

773
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: because it's the two of you, right, It's small, and

774
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: I feel like what you're saying about, you know, the

775
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: content that you put out and how you can showcase

776
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: yourself as an athlete, because athletes are more than just athletes,

777
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: they are people too, I feel it is really important.

778
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're telling a story, right, and I

779
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: think I think there are indoor athletes that really have

780
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 3: that impact though. I mean, if you look at Logan

781
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: Eggleston in her last year at Texas, they did a

782
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: great piece on like how she may want to be president,

783
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 3: like I remember doing I remember seeing this piece and

784
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 3: I was like whoa, Like who is this girl? And

785
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 3: then when you get to meet Logan in person, she's

786
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: it all makes sense, like that that person is special,

787
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: she's there for a reason and she's going to have

788
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 3: a great impact. So I think when you have schools

789
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: and you have the Nce DOUBLEA and different brands and

790
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 3: outlets that are creating content in that way around these

791
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 3: individual athletes, they really do have a very compelling story

792
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 3: to tell. And you know, indoor vival is a team sport,

793
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: but I think there is that opportunity to grow those

794
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: individual brands and just give an inside look because you know,

795
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different differentiation in indoor Every position

796
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: is different. I mean, looking at it, it's funny like if

797
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: you look at the international whatever just or volleyball, like

798
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: it's Nola Bearro is really taller than five eight, you know,

799
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: but you know the whole I always think that's so

800
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 3: fascinating that that that there is such a like a

801
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 3: high differential of that and like what did they do?

802
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: They don't they don't necessarily get all of the praise

803
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 3: because they're not the one that's putting the ball away

804
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: every play. But so what is that like?

805
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: Like?

806
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 3: What is like? There are different storylines that can come

807
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 3: out of of every sport, I think, and it's just

808
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: a matter of curating the right platform to to kind

809
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 3: of push push that content out.

810
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Well, speaking of storylines, I feel like

811
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: this is a perfect segue to talk about storylines of

812
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: movies and TV shows that feature volleyball, because we wanted

813
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: to do a little bit of movie TV volleyball trivia

814
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: with you are you ladies game? Yeah?

815
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 3: Yes, so either we are not big movie jonkies.

816
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I feel like there's some that might

817
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: be a little tricky, but there's some that I feel

818
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: like you should be able to get just based on

819
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: either context clues or just the popular movies like Geist.

820
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: So we'll start with this one. Which movie character was

821
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: in love with a vampire and also really bad at volleyball.

822
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: I have not.

823
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: I can give you a hint if you'd like.

824
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I love a hint.

825
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: It was originally a book series that they turned into

826
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: a movie about vampires. Yes, so yeah, movies Twilight, and

827
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: the character was Bella played by Kristin Stewart, great actress,

828
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: not very good at volleyball in the movie? All right?

829
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: Next question, which movie did Val Kilmer and Tom Cruise

830
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: go head to head in an iconic volleyball match? Yes,

831
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: Top Gun, what a great, great scene scene.

832
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: The volleyball is not, but it was a good scene.

833
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Number three? Which show? In the episode

834
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: Company Picnic, is it revealed that the receptionist is a

835
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: talented volleyball player during an employee volleyball game.

836
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

837
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I love the Office too. As volleyball players?

838
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: Do you get annoyed watching Pam serve because she's horrible

839
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: at serving? Every time I watch it, they like they

840
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: showed you like a horrible like jump and like smack,

841
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: and then they quickly cut away because they know it's

842
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: not real.

843
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: It's funny because she's kind of put out to be

844
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: like excuse me, not like she's put out to be

845
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: the office is the company's best player, but the volleyball

846
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: is really not that great. So it's but for those

847
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: that don't play this port, and you could kind of

848
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 3: see how it works. It works, it goes with the storyline.

849
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: I'm all for it, and I give mad props to

850
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: Jennifisher for going through that all right number four, which

851
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: Dog discovered he had an uncanny ability to play volleyball

852
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: after he played uncanny basketball.

853
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: Is it like airbud or something?

854
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: Yes, airbud in airbud spikes back.

855
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: Oh the basketball was great.

856
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: Well done, all right in the last one, which I

857
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 1: think may be the hardest one because of how old

858
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: you ladies are, but which late nineties and early two

859
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: thousand's MTV cartoon character had volleyball as part of the

860
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: intro to the show, this brown haired glasses wearing introvert

861
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: no idea.

862
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 3: No John Blake, Daria.

863
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: Did you even know what Daria is? I was thinking

864
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: that was like, I don't know if they're gonna know Daria.

865
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: But as someone as a millennium grew up watching that show,

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Speaker 1: thought you did great well. Ladies. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for being on serving pancakes. It was lovely talking with you,

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Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see ladies out on the

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. We're so happy to be thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for having us on.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if you're new to volleyball, make sure

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Speaker 1: you check out Kayles Stapleton, who played volleyball at San

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Speaker 1: who played beach volleyball for UCLA. They'll be posting Volleyball

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Speaker 1: and everything in between. To make sure to follow so

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Speaker 1: you don't serving. Pancakes is an iHeart women's sports production

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Speaker 1: in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Production by League one Volleyball, I'm

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Speaker 1: your host Tiffany Oshinsky. Anya Alvarez is our senior producer.

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Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Carrie Stett, Tamara Daiki, and Lindsay Hoffman.

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Speaker 1: Our marketing lead is Jawara Parker. Sound editing and mixing

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Speaker 1: by Cody Nelson. Our theme music is Pancakes by Eric W.

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Speaker 1: Mast Junior. Stay tuned for our next episode, where we

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Speaker 1: break down team USA semifinals match against Brazil. Thanks for listening,