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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Everyone, I mean everyone got this one wrong.

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Speaker 3: They really did.

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Speaker 2: We'll explain that in just a minute. Good morning, everybody,

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Speaker 2: it is that time. It's Fox Football Sunday on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: He's Bucky Brooks on Andy Fermana.

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Speaker 2: We are right here for you, and we are broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, and away we go.

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, good morning, how are you my friend?

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Speaker 1: I am doing great, Andy, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Everything's great?

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Speaker 2: And we want to get our staff together where full strength? Marky, Mark,

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Speaker 2: You're okay, You're ready to go? Right, You're ready?

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Speaker 3: You're good, Yes, very ready.

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Speaker 2: Come on, get a little excitement in there, and Bree

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Speaker 2: help us out here. Because we got this, this Bucky

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Speaker 2: thing in this hour. How could people get involved with

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Speaker 2: Ask Bucky?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, so go ahead and tweet at Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 4: or even do a little hashtag ask Bucky. And when

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Speaker 4: we get to that segment, we'll go ahead and see

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Speaker 4: if there is any good ones, and then I'll go

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Speaker 4: ahead and ask Bucky on you guys's behalf Okay.

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Speaker 2: Now I've said this, Buck, and I mean this for

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Speaker 2: my heart of hearts. When I say everybody got this

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Speaker 2: one wrong.

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Speaker 3: You know, I get it.

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Speaker 2: You sit behind the microphone, you make predictions, you say this.

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Speaker 2: But everybody got on the bandwagon. I'm talking about newspaper

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Speaker 2: guy's columns, you know, tweets, social media, you name it.

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Speaker 3: Everybody went crazy.

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Speaker 2: They had arch Maning winning the Heisman Trophy back in April.

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Speaker 2: They did last April didn't happen. Okay, he was picked

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Speaker 2: as a preseason Heuightsman favorite.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it was his name. I don't know, but I

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Speaker 3: will tell you this much.

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Speaker 2: Looking up his stats in two games against Power four teams,

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Speaker 2: arch Manning was a combined thirty three for fifty nine

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Speaker 2: four thirty three, three touchdowns and three ironts. Played against

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Speaker 2: the miners of Texas al Paso eleven for twenty five

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Speaker 2: or one hundred and fourteen yards. All right, okay, yesterday

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Speaker 2: somewhat decent Texas beat Oklahoma. He was twenty one for

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Speaker 2: twenty seven, one hundred and sixty six yards and a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it. What's the love affair this guy? Basically,

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Speaker 2: the hype was off the charts, off the charts, really,

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Speaker 2: and everybody was wrong. And it's about time they came forth.

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Speaker 2: And said, you know what, I was wrong. I was wrong.

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Speaker 3: Say it.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear it. It's definitely going to happen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, really and truly, that's just just the way

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Speaker 2: it is, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is what it is.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the thing about arch Manning is he has

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Speaker 5: a great last name, and with the great last name,

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Speaker 5: because you know, Peyton was so successful in ELI, may

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Speaker 5: also be a Hall of famer that everyone assumed that. Look,

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Speaker 5: it's in the blood lines, it's the legacy. He's going

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Speaker 5: to carry on the tradition because he is someone who's

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Speaker 5: been talked about so much from the time he was

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Speaker 5: There's a natural assumption that he was going to look

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Speaker 5: like Peyton in ELI when he took the field. The athleticism,

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Speaker 5: the flashes, the little pit that you saw when he

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Speaker 5: to start, and we haven't seen that. That said, he's

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Speaker 5: shown some progress, he's shown some flashes in those things,

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Speaker 5: but he'll never be able to play up to the

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Speaker 5: hype that preceded his arrival as a big time player.

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Speaker 2: Right, and I can't why why were people on that bandwagon?

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Speaker 3: Why was he being hyped? Was it the name? Was

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Speaker 3: it just a name name?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a name. It's the name. He's a Manning.

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Speaker 5: And so you think about it, think about the legacy

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Speaker 5: Arch Manning, then Payting and Eli make it and not

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So when you think about those

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Speaker 5: three people like Arch Manning college football Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 5: of famers. I mean, it's natural to put those expectations

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Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm not here to kind of smack around people

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Speaker 3: We all do it, and it happens.

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Speaker 2: But you know, this train that was just rolling down

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Speaker 3: But that's not alone. There's more.

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Speaker 2: There's more to come right now because the preseason talk

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Speaker 2: it's amazing. No, so I ask you, because you're the

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, here's the thing. The predictions are the

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Speaker 1: There's a natural assumption that Penn State would be.

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Speaker 5: Really good because they had so many people opt back

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Speaker 1: And Drewala, So there's a lot of.

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Speaker 5: Expectation based on the continuation of what should have been

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Speaker 5: They just didn't play like that out the gate. You know,

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Speaker 5: you just think about all of this, But all of

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Speaker 5: a lot of times we don't know, and the college

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but now you know the media people, the national

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Speaker 2: that they're kind of taking a step back saying, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, I know they get into the portal, but

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Speaker 2: it takes time. No, the portal should be something that

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Speaker 1: Right, No, that's that doesn't that's not right.

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Speaker 5: It's like free agency and whatever, because just because you

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Speaker 5: all good. Like that would be like if we're playing

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Speaker 1: Like it's a team.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't just mean you can't just plug all these

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Speaker 1: You're not collecting talent.

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Speaker 5: You're building a team, and a team has to operate

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Speaker 5: I think when people make that assumption that just because

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Speaker 5: I think people make the assumption that the portal is

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Speaker 1: It can be in some cases, but not always.

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Speaker 3: I learned one thing and I learned this from you,

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Speaker 2: You know, I look at talent and we always say

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Speaker 2: it's personnel. I get it, it's personnel, but I think

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Speaker 3: Now they're a contender.

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Speaker 2: Look at Detroit for years years they were terrible, right,

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Speaker 3: Now the Detroit Lions are a contender.

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Speaker 2: That was a basketball school for eons, right, it's a

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Speaker 3: Lucky for him.

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Speaker 2: Lucky for him, there's playing more money and more boosters

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Speaker 5: which is great. They played a soft schedule the first year,

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Speaker 5: Indiana because they knocked off a team that everyone hails

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Speaker 5: But he got a jump started and he continues to

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Speaker 5: puppeteer being able to put it all together. But it's

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Speaker 2: I mean right now, they're going to be in the

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Speaker 2: I get it, But to lose to Northwestern, please, that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I mean, I just hope Penn State will

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Speaker 1: They've lost three in a row. They shouldn't lose to the Northwestern.

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Speaker 5: They shouldn't have lost to UCLA, and maybe they should

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Speaker 5: State has always been doing a Joe paternal era. Okay,

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Speaker 5: They can find somebody else to do it, just like

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Speaker 5: So whoever it is that the Penn State people find,

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Speaker 5: I am really tired of him about the James Franklin thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: But yeah, they shouldn't lose to those teams. They lost

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Speaker 2: First of all, I don't think they should fire any

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Speaker 2: And you know what, it's like it's like when you're

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Speaker 1: I mean not really.

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Speaker 5: I mean the teams that fired the coaches that responded

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Speaker 5: They played better. You think about Virginia Tech, they fired

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Speaker 5: I think you should fire the coach whenever you feel

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Speaker 5: So when you do that, it gives you an opportunity

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Speaker 2: Penn State became the first FBS team in the last

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Speaker 2: twenty point favorite. That's a bad deal right there. So

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Speaker 2: Vegas was heard yesterday too. So now they're writing about,

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Speaker 2: you know, the buyout for Penn State with James Franklin.

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Speaker 2: His contract pays him eight million a year through the

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Speaker 2: State would need to pay him fifty six million dollars, including.

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Speaker 3: What he's already been paid up to this point. All

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Speaker 2: If the school wants to wait till after the year,

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Speaker 2: they'd have to pay him forty eight million. Who started

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Speaker 5: I mean what's the point of having a contract if

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Speaker 5: The buyout is part of protecting the coach from being

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Speaker 5: also has terms where the coach has to pay a certain.

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Speaker 1: Amount before he leaves.

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Speaker 5: That's the point of having a contract so both parties

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Speaker 5: but also to protect the coach. If you want to

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Speaker 5: move up, then it'll be If you want to move

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Speaker 5: get a new coach. It's expensive when you make decisions

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Speaker 2: And I tell you a lot of times with the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's that's how it operates.

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Speaker 5: If they want a coach and they feel like a

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Speaker 5: then pay him a salary and exorbitant salary on top

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, I don't think they're gonna get rid

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Speaker 2: I think he's a good coach. I mean, it just happens,

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Speaker 2: you know, you run into one of those deals. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's a freak loss to lose to Northwestern, there's no doubt,

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Speaker 2: That's why they play the game. I know it sounds stupid,

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, man, I think at this point, like,

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Speaker 5: like perception becomes reality, and what it's eventually going to

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned this, we've got to go give him

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Speaker 3: The coach, the interim coach or the UCLA.

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Speaker 2: They will owned four now they're two and one in

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll get into that a little bit later on.

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Speaker 2: I just want to know, same roster, different coach, how

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Speaker 2: All right, we got assbucket coming up about ten twelve

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Speaker 2: minutes from now. But our good friend Deon Sander's won

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Speaker 2: a big game yesterday, Iowa State loses Colorado twenty four

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Speaker 2: to seventeen.

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Speaker 3: But I got a question.

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Speaker 2: I understand that Colorado was paying big bucks for Deon

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Speaker 2: Sanders personal bodyguard. Have you ever heard of anything like

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Speaker 2: this to these college coaches, the football coaches, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: Do they have bodyguards?

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Speaker 3: Is that what's going on now?

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Speaker 1: I'n't heard.

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Speaker 5: I know that sometimes there's security, there's highway patrolman around.

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Speaker 1: Here coaches, particularly on game day.

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Speaker 5: But in terms of Dion Dianna is different because Deanna

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Speaker 5: is a celebrity, so I think you have to kind

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Speaker 5: of put that in a separate category. And because you're

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Speaker 5: a celebrity, sometimes you have to have detail around you

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Speaker 5: at all hours. I don't know if most coaches are

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Speaker 5: living like that. If most coaches are viewed as celebrities,

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Speaker 5: so they may not need the full time attention when

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Speaker 5: it comes to being protected.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing because they said the University of Colorado is

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Speaker 2: paying for his bodyguard. The bodyguard's name is Michael Rhodes

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Speaker 2: and he's a former police officer. He's paid forty and

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Speaker 2: eighty bucks to be part of the football entertainment enterprise

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Speaker 2: at Colorado.

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Speaker 3: That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm a little tired of people

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Speaker 2: jumping on Dion's back, jumping on Belichick's back, because I think,

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Speaker 2: like the media right now, they love to see how

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Speaker 2: profile people fail. I really believe that, you know, and

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Speaker 2: maybe at times I've done that as well. But the

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Speaker 2: point is that they just continue to hound and bang

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Speaker 2: on these guys even though they've had a great pass

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Speaker 2: in their life.

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Speaker 3: And I looked this up.

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Speaker 2: They said, media exposure for coach Deon Sanders a Colorado

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Speaker 2: get this and they want to see him leave? Are

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Speaker 2: you kidding? The media exposure is valued at around three

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Speaker 2: point two billion with a b three point two billion

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Speaker 2: dollars media exposure for Colorado. First of all, those games

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Speaker 2: never used to be on TV. Colorado's on almost every

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Speaker 2: week right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, they didn't used to be on TV a ton,

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Speaker 5: and they are on a lot because Deon Sanders is

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Speaker 5: celebrity and what people typically do, particularly people in this

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Speaker 5: new media space, is you're trying to find people that

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Speaker 5: are popular and you try to either take a pro

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Speaker 5: or con opinion on them because by having that person

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Speaker 5: in the headlines, it generates a click, it generates a view,

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Speaker 5: generates a like or dislike or whatever it is. But

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Speaker 5: it brings about attention. And the names that are polarizing,

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Speaker 5: Bill Belichick, Deon Sanders or whatever, they demand a lot

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Speaker 5: of attention or they're commanding a lot of attention because

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Speaker 5: that's what people want to hear.

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Speaker 1: There is a love hate affair with Bill Belichick dating

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Speaker 1: back to his days in New England.

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Speaker 5: This is a chance for all of the people that

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Speaker 5: have always liked him to dump on them. That's why

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Speaker 5: we're seeing all of these hit pieces on him, etc.

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Speaker 5: With Deon Sanders, there's some of that too, because people

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Speaker 5: didn't like the flamboyance to confidence, even the cockiness that

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Speaker 5: he exhibited.

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Speaker 1: People don't like that.

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Speaker 5: So any opportunity they have to humble him or to

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Speaker 5: give him a slice of humble pot, they want to

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Speaker 5: take advantage of that opportunity. And so what we're seeing

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Speaker 5: all these things playing out in real time because it's popular,

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Speaker 5: is buzzworthy, and if it's buzzworthy, is clickworthy, which brings

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Speaker 5: much coveted attention to everyone that's involved in it.

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Speaker 2: Right And I think the media right now loves to

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Speaker 2: see Belichick fail, which he probably will not fail. Eventually,

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Speaker 2: he'll turn it around because you can't build a team overnight.

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Speaker 2: I don't care how many people you get out of

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Speaker 2: the portal, But the point is that the media people said, aw,

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Speaker 2: here's a guy he never talked to us. We'll get

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Speaker 2: him now. That's what they're doing. I mean, you know

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Speaker 2: I could see it. I mean, you got to be

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Speaker 2: a fool not to see that. But we'll get into

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Speaker 2: the Belichick thing later, but right now, I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about Joe Flacco. Forty year old Joe Flacco traded

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Speaker 2: to the Cincinnati Bengals from the Browns. How strange is that?

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Speaker 2: And what was your reaction when you heard that the

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Speaker 2: other day?

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Speaker 5: I really didn't have like a strong reaction because you

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Speaker 5: knew Joe Flacco was going to be on the hot seat,

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Speaker 5: that he's going to be out. He was going to

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Speaker 5: go somewhere because he wasn't getting time to go to

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Speaker 5: play the young guy, so you knew what that was.

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Speaker 5: The thing that is only interesting about it is the

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati Bengals elected to make the move. And when they

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Speaker 5: made the move to move off of Jake Browning for

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Speaker 5: a division rivals castaway, that's more telling to them. From

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Speaker 5: the Bengal standpoint on the field. It allowed them maybe

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Speaker 5: to push the ball down the field to t Higgins

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Speaker 5: and Jamar Chase. Jake Browning was struggling, wasn't playing well.

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Speaker 5: There's no way to avoid it. He wasn't playing well,

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Speaker 5: and so they're looking for a spark. They're still in

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Speaker 5: the race to two and three, Pittsburgh's at the top

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Speaker 5: of the AFC.

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Speaker 1: North with three and one.

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Speaker 5: They feel like they can get back in and so

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Speaker 5: they didn't give Joe Flacco an opportunity to be the

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Speaker 5: gun sling get to hold it down until Joe Burrow

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Speaker 5: gets back.

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Speaker 2: I would say this, I think it was a good

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Speaker 2: move in the sensetep if it can't be any worse

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Speaker 2: than what they've had the last several weeks with Jake Browning.

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Speaker 2: But I got to tell you, I may be on

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Speaker 2: whalf based on this. But the key in sports you

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Speaker 2: have to be one of two things. You have to

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Speaker 2: be good or you have to be interesting. Right now,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals aren't good, but you know what, with the

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Speaker 2: addition of Joe Flacco, they're interesting. How people are going

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Speaker 2: to watch and they're going to see how Joe Flacco

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Speaker 2: could do with a good receiving corps like you mentioned

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Speaker 2: T Higgins and Jamar Chase. That's the key right there.

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Speaker 2: Can he get it done? I don't know, could it

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Speaker 2: be any better than it was before? It's got to

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Speaker 2: be better. But I think they're going to be interesting

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Speaker 2: right now because you know, I just think the fan

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Speaker 2: base right now is getting a little tired of Jake

595
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Speaker 2: Browning and I feel bad for him, but he couldn't

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Speaker 2: get it done.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's going to be better right now

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Speaker 3: with Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 1: I mean potentially he could be better.

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Speaker 5: I mean Joe Fleck has to learn the offense quickly

601
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Speaker 5: and they have to figure it out. But Joe Flacco

602
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Speaker 5: also has a turnover issue. A turnover problem is to

603
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Speaker 5: make sure that he doesn't turn the ball over. But

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Speaker 5: if he does that, yeah, it has an opportunity to

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Speaker 5: get significantly better for the Bengals in the next few weeks.

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Speaker 2: The bad news is, and I don't think anybody really

607
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Speaker 2: touched on this, at least on the national level.

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Speaker 3: I know locally they really didn't mention it either.

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Speaker 2: The fact that the Browns let him go, I think

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Speaker 2: to me speaks volumes like what they think of him

611
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Speaker 2: in Cleveland, unless they're saying, look, he's not our future.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get rid of him. Is that the deal

613
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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 2: Because he was the starting quarterback, kind of had a

615
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Speaker 2: little bit of a rough spot, and they got rid

616
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Speaker 2: of him, and they got some backups right now, And

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of happy because Shidiah Sanders now is the

618
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Speaker 2: number one backup on that team and eventually he's gonna play.

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Speaker 3: He's going to play right now.

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Speaker 2: But to me, to let him go, to let Joe

621
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Speaker 2: Flacco go, to me speaks volumes like the brown said,

622
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Speaker 2: we don't need you anymore, we don't want you anymore.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they had a young quarterback, They have two

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Speaker 5: young quarterbacks that they want to eventually evaluate so they

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Speaker 5: can see what they have coming up against the twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty six quarterback class. I don't believe they have a

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Speaker 5: lot of value in Shoudur Sanders, just given all the

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Speaker 5: conversation around him and the way that they portrayed him.

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Speaker 5: I think this is Dylan Gabriel's show, but they believe

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Speaker 5: they get Dlan Gabriel is a future franchise quarterback. That's

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Speaker 5: why they took him in the third round ahead of Shadur.

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Speaker 5: So I don't think this is a we will play

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Speaker 5: the young guy to eventually get the Shadur. They believe

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Speaker 5: in Dylan Gabriel and people should treat the story as such.

635
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Speaker 5: Less conversation about Shadur, more conversation about Dylan until Dylan

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Speaker 5: falters in.

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Speaker 1: A major way.

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Speaker 5: But right now, this is about the Browns believing in

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Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel more so than Sharduur being on on the

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Speaker 5: rise and having two quarterbacks so they want to move

641
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Speaker 5: on from Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 1: It's more about them believing in Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned coming into the segment that history could be

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Speaker 2: made today. The Green Bay Packers have only won loss

646
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Speaker 2: this year, and guess what it came against the quarterback

647
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Speaker 2: they're going to be facing today, Joe Flacco with the

648
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. Flacco's win over Green Bay was in Week

649
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Speaker 2: three while he was still playing for the Cleveland Browns. Okay,

650
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Speaker 2: now he's taken the field for the Cincinnati Bengals and

651
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Speaker 2: that trade, which is well on Tuesday, I think so

652
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Speaker 2: thanks to the trade. Thanks to that trade, Flacco now

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Speaker 2: has a chance to make NFL history today by becoming

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Speaker 2: the first quarterback in the Super Bowl era to beat

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Speaker 2: the same opponent twice in one season while starting for

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Speaker 2: a different team. And that feed has only been accomplished

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Speaker 2: one time, and that came back in nineteen sixty two,

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Speaker 2: before the first Super Bowl was ever played. It was

659
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: sixty three years ago. Jack Kemp led the Charges to

660
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: a forty fourteen win over the New York Titans. Now

661
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: that the Jets, that was in Week two. That's pretty big.

662
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: Now Flacco also has played for every team and that

663
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Speaker 2: vision except the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. He really is.

665
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: Was he been there eighteen years? I will say this,

666
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: and I think you'll agree. A very sturdy quarterback. I

667
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: don't think he's ever really been injured. But I don't

668
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: think he's a Hall of Fame guy. Although he was

669
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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl MVP. I don't see him getting into

670
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame.

671
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: No, he is not a Hall of Famer, but he.

672
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Speaker 5: Probably enjoyed one of the hottest runs that we've seen

673
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Speaker 5: someone who bettered themselves and had a great Super Bowl run.

674
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Speaker 1: So he deserves credit for that. But he's a gunslinger.

675
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Speaker 5: From the time that he came out of University of Delaware,

676
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 5: they were people that loved the prototypical traits, the big

677
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Speaker 5: arm in those things. And so he's had his moments

678
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Speaker 5: when he can get hot, and we saw it a

679
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Speaker 5: few years ago when he was NFL Comeback Player of

680
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Speaker 5: the Year in Cleveland.

681
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Speaker 1: Maybe they can catch lightning in the ball in Cincinnati, right.

682
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Speaker 2: I know everybody thinks the Bengals have problems, Well look

683
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: that got an excuse Joe. Joe Burrow's not playing. They

684
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Speaker 2: got another Joe right now, and they're two and three

685
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Speaker 2: with twelve games left. I think there's still some life

686
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Speaker 2: because I think that division is wide open. The team

687
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: that has some question walks right now, especially offensively, Philadelphia Eagles.

688
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 2: They lose to the Giants on Thursday night, thirty four

689
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Speaker 2: to seventeen, and I think the game before that, the

690
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Speaker 2: game they had lost, I think something like Saquon Barkley

691
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: had eleven carries. Now, I remember this is like two

692
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Speaker 2: three years ago when the Eagles struggled the first half

693
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Speaker 2: of the season and they started to go to the

694
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Speaker 2: run game big time, heavily before sae Quon was there,

695
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Speaker 2: and they turned it around. Now I got a new

696
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. Why would they stay away from the run game.

697
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Speaker 2: You got a guy who picked up up with two

698
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Speaker 2: thousand yards last year and then not putting the ball

699
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Speaker 2: in his belly.

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Speaker 3: I don't get it.

701
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Speaker 5: Well, there's a lot of fighting in fighting between the

702
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Speaker 5: star personnel, and this happens when you have success.

703
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Speaker 1: Pat Rowley used to call it the disease of me.

704
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Speaker 5: Everyone values their contributions more when you're part of a

705
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Speaker 5: winning team, and they believe that they should be rewarded

706
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Speaker 5: for that success, whether that's monetarily or with more opportunities.

707
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Speaker 5: That's how everyone feels. And when you have a bunch

708
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Speaker 5: of guys that have the disease of me, it starts

709
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 5: framing the team first concept because everyone is thinking about themselves.

710
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Speaker 1: And not the team.

711
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Speaker 5: And when you get that, you don't have a team

712
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 5: that plays well because they're functioning like a bunch of

713
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Speaker 5: independent contractors, and that's what we're seeing in Philadelphia. Until

714
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Speaker 5: everyone bues back into the team part of it, where

715
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Speaker 5: we're gonna do what's best for the team as opposed

716
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Speaker 5: to the individual, they'll never get back on track and

717
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Speaker 5: they'll never win games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently, I guess it was Aj Brown that posted

719
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Speaker 2: something of a Bible verse on social media and then

720
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Speaker 2: he denied it, and Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley said

721
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Speaker 2: they met with Brown, and you're right that internal squabbling

722
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: could kill you.

723
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Speaker 3: That's basically what it is.

724
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Speaker 2: I think that one time, once you get to the mountain,

725
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: and they were at the mountain less year winning the

726
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, I don't think that the fire is there

727
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Speaker 2: as much. I mean, you played the game, you would

728
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Speaker 2: have the answer. You know these players, you know their mindset.

729
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: But I think that you strive for a Super Bowl,

730
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: you win the Super Bowl, then you could put it

731
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: in put it in neutral. You don't have that drive anymore.

732
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Speaker 2: I don't think Kansas City did. And that's amazing New

733
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: England did, And maybe that's a coach's responsibility. I don't know,

734
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Speaker 2: but I think once you get to the top, it's

735
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Speaker 2: tough to stay there.

736
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Speaker 5: It's tough to stay there because every human has to

737
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 5: fight off complacency. Most people's natural inclination is if you

738
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Speaker 5: get an A on a test, the next time you cruise,

739
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 5: maybe you make a SEE and you settle for a B.

740
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Speaker 5: Nick Saban always uses this analogy to talk about the

741
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Speaker 5: human mindset and how hard it is to be an

742
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Speaker 5: elite competitor that always wants to make a's on those

743
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Speaker 5: tests because it requires you to not be swayed by

744
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Speaker 5: what happened previously, but to stay focused on the task

745
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 5: at hand. Most people aren't wired to do that, and

746
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 5: it's hard to get a team to approach a season

747
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 5: like that. Ay Man, Every game is an opportunity for

748
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Speaker 5: us to get better, no matter what we did the

749
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Speaker 5: week before. We want to be better the next week.

750
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Speaker 5: And we're playing to a standard, not to a scoreboard,

751
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 5: meaning there has to be a feel to the way

752
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 5: that we play. We feel like we're playing at a

753
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 5: championship level based on when you look at us, the

754
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Speaker 5: way we're running to the ball, executing place, etc.

755
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: About the final scoreboard.

756
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Speaker 5: But it's hard for people to do that because a

757
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 5: lot of people look at the results and they're satisfied

758
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 5: if the results are positive. They don't really care about

759
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 5: the process of how they got there. A I won,

760
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 5: Why do we care if I had a couple mistakes

761
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 5: and miscues we still won the game. But the championship

762
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 5: teams and the teams that are able to sustain over

763
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 5: the long haul, they're always chasing an ideal standard of

764
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 5: play and you have to stick to that.

765
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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

766
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Speaker 2: I mean, Eagles right now ranked twenty ninth the NFL

767
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: in total offense. Sakuon Barkley twelve carries for fifty eight

768
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Speaker 2: yards against the Giants, and he's averaging three point four

769
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Speaker 2: yards to carry after he led the league in rushing

770
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Speaker 2: and yachts from scrimmage last year.

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Speaker 3: Amazing. I mean, you look at that. It's kind of crazy.

772
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Speaker 2: And if it doesn't change pretty soon, there's gonna be

773
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Speaker 2: some problems, major problems over there. All right, we roll

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Speaker 2: along right now. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman. We

775
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Speaker 2: are Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready, it's time

776
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Speaker 2: for some real knowledge. What does that mean?

777
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Speaker 3: Means? Ask Bucky? Is next? Ask Bucky? Coming right up?

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Speaker 2: That's Bucket he Brooks on Andy from We're about twelve

779
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Speaker 2: minutes before the top of the hour on Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We're a lot from the Fox Sports radio studios. Right now,

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Speaker 2: it's time for Ask Bucky. Brianna get it calling Brie.

782
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Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm gonna throw actually to a collar out

783
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Speaker 4: in Boston, Andrew, what's your question for ask Bucky?

784
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, my question is Fucky, how do you feel

785
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 9: Drake May is doing? And also how do you put

786
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 9: up with Firman every weekend?

787
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Speaker 7: What?

788
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, you gotta screen calls better than this?

789
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Speaker 9: Oh? Good?

790
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Speaker 1: All right?

791
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 9: Berman, Andy, Yes, yes, can I ask you a quod questions?

792
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 3: Go right ahead?

793
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 9: About just about the contract? Like you would have a

794
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,959
Speaker 9: buyout in your contract if Fox fortunes get you're out

795
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 9: of here for no reason. You would want money, you know.

796
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: Thank you?

797
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

798
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Speaker 2: Okay, good, you could be my attorney. You could write

799
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: it in my contract. Okay, let book answer you a

800
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: question about Drake May.

801
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 5: DREMI is doing really well, Mike Rabel, Josh mcganne is

802
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 5: doing a great job of send him up for success.

803
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 5: He's someone who was very talented, but he was inconsistent

804
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 5: during his time in North Carolina. He has some Josh

805
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 5: Allen like qualities they're tapping into, not necessarily the athleticism

806
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 5: in terms of running, but just allowing him to be

807
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 5: the dude. And those dude qualities are certainly coming through

808
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 5: for him with New England.

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00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, you got to answer pot.

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Speaker 1: B do you?

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Speaker 5: And he's a wonder, He's a pleasure. He's a pleasure

812
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 5: to work with every Sunday. So I can't say anything

813
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 5: bad about I love you.

814
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: I love you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that sounds good.

816
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 4: All right, pray next, Okay, Bucky's growing now, Pinocchio, have

817
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: you ever seen a coach get physical on the sidelines

818
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Speaker 4: with the player? We obviously saw Jonathan Cannon this past

819
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: Sunday with a Mari de Meccardo and he was actually

820
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Speaker 4: fined one hundred thousand dollars from the team versus like

821
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Speaker 4: the league itself. So what do you think about that

822
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: just as a separate And then had you ever seen

823
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 4: a coach a physical with the player like on the

824
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: sideline like that?

825
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 5: No, and it should never happen. Like as a coach,

826
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 5: you should always pribe yourself in being able to keep

827
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 5: you cool, and he obviously wasn't able to keep his cool.

828
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 5: So that's a bad look on Jonathan Gannon's part. No

829
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 5: matter the offense, it was egregious for I'm a ready

830
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 5: to drop the ball before he gets in the end zone.

831
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 5: But the coach has to be better than that. I

832
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 5: am glad that the Arizona Cardinals find him. I'm glad

833
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 5: that he had to serve some kind of punishment of

834
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 5: consequence for his actions. He cannot do that. He cannot

835
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Speaker 5: approach a player like that. There has to be a

836
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 5: level of respect between player and coach.

837
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Speaker 2: Okay, I have an attendum to that question, if I

838
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Speaker 2: may breeze that. Okay, I want to know why the

839
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: player could or would or should Can he kind of

840
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Speaker 2: sue the.

841
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Speaker 3: Coach for assault? Just think about that?

842
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: Now?

843
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: Can he? Can he do that? Book? I mean, really,

844
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: he punched him, kind of punched him.

845
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, he can't sue him. He can't sue him for that.

846
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 5: Like I don't think that they would have any merrit.

847
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 5: But no, it's not a great look. Beca's not a

848
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 5: great look on the Organization's not a great look in

849
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Speaker 5: any way, shape or form.

850
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: All right, go ahead, Bray, I'm sorry I.

851
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 4: Was gonna say even I could have answered that question.

852
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: Of course, you wouldn't get sued.

853
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: It's crazy to anybody, But I think that's a possibility question.

854
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 6: That's for sure.

855
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 4: Wow, just kidding, right, Beckie, We're just kidding. I'm just kidding, right, Okay.

856
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 4: Bears head coach Ben Jonson stated that he sees similarities

857
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Speaker 4: between Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams. Is he hallucinating?

858
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think there's some similarities in terms of

859
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 5: like the way they play. Both are athletic, Both can

860
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 5: make plays in the pocket outside of the pocket. Both

861
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 5: can play on time or play in a frenetic chaos.

862
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: But I would say that Jade and.

863
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Speaker 5: Daniels has been the one that has been more comfortable

864
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Speaker 5: playing on time than Caleb Williams. They're having to teach

865
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams how to play on time and let the

866
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 5: place fully developed. But yeah, there's some similarities in terms

867
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Speaker 5: of their skill sets.

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Speaker 2: You know, I got this, See, I wanted to play

869
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Speaker 2: the coaching cash game how much these guys get paid.

870
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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna mention the college coach buck, and you

871
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Speaker 2: tell us if he's overpaid or not, and then after

872
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: you tell me that, I'll tell you how much he's making.

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Speaker 3: I looked that up is that? Okay, are you ready?

874
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: Here's go.

875
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Speaker 3: Luke Fickle at Wisconsin.

876
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: Overpaid for the production and performance.

877
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: He's making seven point eight million. Why he left Cincinnati,

878
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. He had to go in there pretty

879
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: good and really and truly these guys make I mean,

880
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: do you look at the salaries they make. Do you

881
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 2: ever say to yourself, maybe you should have gotten into

882
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: college coaching.

883
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: I mean it's big money.

884
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: There's big money, but they move around too much. For me.

885
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: I didn't want that once I was done playing. I

886
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: didn't want to bunce around as much.

887
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Lincoln Riley at Southern col too much or too little?

888
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 5: It's too much based on what the expectations are at

889
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 5: USC even though he's done a great job of recruiting now,

890
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 5: it's still too much.

891
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: The wins haven't tallied up.

892
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: Eleven point five mill he's making all right.

893
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: Our good friend coach Bill Belichick in North Carolina, I

894
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: think it's even too early to even you know, approach

895
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: this with him, but you know, put him on the list.

896
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 5: What do you think, Yeah, it's too much based on

897
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 5: how they're performing in all the chaos around the program.

898
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's way too much.

899
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: All right, you freeze at Auburn, You freeze at Auburn.

900
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's too much. I mean, did I win it

901
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 5: enough to do it? So like if you don't win enough,

902
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 5: it doesn't justify the salary.

903
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 2: So no, you know what I would say this, he's

904
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: only I underline that he's only making six point seven mil.

905
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: Really, all right? How about Matt Campbell at Iowa.

906
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: State underrated under jail, he's you.

907
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: Know, really and truly he's a bargain. He's he's making

908
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: five mil and he's the winning his coach in Iowa

909
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 2: State history, really and truly. I mean he's sixty nine

910
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: and fifty two with the cycle. It's pretty good five mil.

911
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: So what happens? Does he get a does they bump

912
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: him up or what he's gonna be gobbled up by a.

913
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 3: No the school? What happens to a guy like Matt Campbell?

914
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: I think he just stayed in build a legacy.

915
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 5: He's done a really good job with the program under

916
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 5: his direction. I don't believe in that you always have

917
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 5: to bounce and find another job. Some jobs are statue jobs,

918
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 5: like be there where you can be rewarded for being

919
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 5: an excellent coach. And having a statue fixed after you.

920
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 5: I think Matt Campbell's just say, all.

921
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: Right, got a couple of more coaches. I think I'm

922
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: gonna hold them over. We'll do that. But he's Bucky

923
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: Brooks and Andy Ferman, and these men really need to

924
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 3: step it up.

925
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: Who are they will tell you in so much more

926
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday next.

927
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 3: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

928
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: All right, babies, aret the loan and being premature. We'll

929
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: explain that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody,

930
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931
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932
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933
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935
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936
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943
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: couple of little tidbits for you, Buck. Are you ready

944
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: about this coaching salary deal? Kurt Signetti and Indiana big

945
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: Win yesterday. I got to believe at eight point three mil,

946
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: he'll be bumped up pretty good, or maybe he'll jump

947
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: to a bigger school.

948
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: You think is that a possibility?

949
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: I certainly hope that.

950
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 5: I don't know why people are always chasing different logos.

951
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: Whatever. He has a nice spot in Indiana, he has

952
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: a good thing going. Why would he want to leave?

953
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 5: You know, Like to me, if you do all the

954
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 5: work to get the program up and going, you should

955
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 5: want to see the fruits of your labor.

956
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: Hopefully he stays there. He's done a really good job.

957
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 5: He out coached Oregon yesterday and the team is being

958
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 5: Look the team has been a playoff team and it

959
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 5: looks like they are top. Why would you want to

960
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 5: move on from that when you're just just beginning to

961
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 5: kind of put everything in place to have the program

962
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 5: the way that you want it.

963
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: You know, I would say this, there's a new element.

964
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: I would think when coaches jump from to school to

965
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: school in the college level, not so much your salary,

966
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: but I think that you're better off or you're better

967
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 2: served working in a college town where you're the only

968
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: team in town where the boosters really rally around. I mean,

969
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: you coach a college team in a major market, there's

970
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: a good chance that you're gonna be over sold or

971
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: you know, in the shadows of professional sports, Bloomington, Indiana

972
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: did the only show in town. You're gonna get the

973
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 2: boosters rallying around. I think it's tough. Like for school

974
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 2: like Cincinnati, where you got pro football, pro baseball, pro soccer,

975
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: and another college team in town in Javier University, it's tough.

976
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: So I think that's another factor I think coaches may

977
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: look into.

978
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 3: Do you agree.

979
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 5: I believe that the booster network comes from the attendance

980
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 5: of this s school and the success that their alums

981
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 5: have had. Everyone wants to be associated with the winner.

982
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 5: So the more that you win, the more the boosters

983
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 5: are willing to open up their wallets to pay for it.

984
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 5: With Indiana, they have one of the largest alumni bases.

985
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 5: They have one of the largest alumni pools when it

986
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 5: comes to money and endowments in those things, I think

987
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 5: it would be foolish for him to leave Indianda to

988
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 5: go somewhere else.

989
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: And we could say today quite honestly, that Indiana is

990
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: now a football school, not a basketball school anymore.

991
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 5: I won't go so far as to say that they

992
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 5: are a football school, but he certainly has brought some

993
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 5: welcome attention to the football program, the success that they've had.

994
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: In those things. It will always be known as a.

995
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 5: Basketball school because the legacy of Bobby Knight. But no

996
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 5: one says that you can't be great in two sports

997
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 5: at one school. And so if Indiana becomes great in

998
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 5: football like their trending towards becoming, and if they can

999
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 5: rebuild and repair the basketball program, I'm sure there are

1000
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 5: a lot of Hoosiers that would have preciate greatness in

1001
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 5: every level because everyone likes to have bragging rights and

1002
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 5: being able to brag about the success of your school

1003
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 5: in any form.

1004
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. Okay, Brent Key, what a job

1005
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: he's done at Georgia Tech. And I can't believe he's

1006
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: only making he should say only he's only making a

1007
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: four point five million year. The team is undefeated at

1008
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: six and oh Georgia Tech, I gotta believe he'll be

1009
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: jumping around. I just think that Brent's not going to

1010
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: stay at Georgia Tech.

1011
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: Well, when he said George tickets his alma mater, He's

1012
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 5: built it up. He's been there for a long time,

1013
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 5: up and going.

1014
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they can pay him. He's in Atlanta.

1015
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: He understands the lay of the land.

1016
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 5: He's got a ton of success doing it like this

1017
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 5: team is legit, and he has his personality all on it.

1018
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 5: And also, when you're britt Key and you're talking about

1019
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 5: a program that had a long run of success on

1020
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 5: the Paul Johnson, whether they like the offense that he

1021
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 5: ran or not, Bricky understands, man, you can be there

1022
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 5: for a long time. You fully can implement your program

1023
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 5: and see it all the way through. I don't think

1024
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 5: he'd be in a hurry to move on from that.

1025
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 2: Okay, who's the coach of the now in the NFL.

1026
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: I think it's a guy in Jacksonville.

1027
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 5: I mean he's one of them. I mean, I think

1028
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 5: there are a bunch of coaches that are doing good job.

1029
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 5: Liam certainly deserves to be in that conversation. He consistently

1030
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 5: he has a scene playing up. I mean, they've knocked

1031
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 5: off some really good teams the last couple of weeks.

1032
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 5: San Francisco and Kansas City. But there's more work to do.

1033
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 5: But yeah, he's been terrific. He certainly should be in

1034
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 5: the conversation in terms of what he's doing, how he's

1035
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 5: doing it, whatever. But I'm saying Dan Campbell should be there.

1036
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 5: Dan Campbell should do it because he lost both coordinators,

1037
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 5: he lost some players, he lost a ton of assistants,

1038
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 5: and yet the Detroit Lions are flexing their muscles as

1039
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 5: the best team in football. He deserves a lot of credit.

1040
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 5: I would lean towards him being the coach a year

1041
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 5: over anybody else.

1042
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially losing two coordinators. I mean, everybody thought he'd

1043
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: be down the dumb They lost the first game of

1044
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: the years. Oh here we go, it's over. He got

1045
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: him back. He ratheried them before they could even think

1046
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: of going the other direction. He got him right back

1047
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 2: back and better than it might be, averaging like thirty

1048
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: points a game.

1049
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 3: It's amazing.

1050
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought about the age factor. You could be

1051
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: on a bad team, injuries, all factors. While some players

1052
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: who we expect to have better seasons are falling short

1053
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: and who are they? Well, you wrote about that and

1054
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: foxsports dot Com. I wanted to touch on that for

1055
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 2: a little bit. And fantasy football guys, guys that play

1056
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: fantasy football and women, they're probably getting stung by this,

1057
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: you know. And there are guys that are surprising us,

1058
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: I mean the Jackson Darts of the world, they're surprising us.

1059
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: But those that are falling.

1060
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 2: Short that you wrote about foxsports dot Com, there's gotta

1061
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: be a reason, okay, And it's very difficult. And you

1062
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: mentioned this, I think just last week when you wrote

1063
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 2: about it. Dereck Henry hard to say that really he's struggling.

1064
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: I mean, look, he had forty nine carriages for two

1065
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: eighty four and three touchdowns, and he was tied for

1066
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: the NFL lead back at that point in time two

1067
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: weeks ago. But he's the king and now all of

1068
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: a sudden he's having a rough time getting back on track.

1069
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: Not really his fault, I just think is the players

1070
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: around him.

1071
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: Is that true?

1072
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Nah, he put the ball on the ground.

1073
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 5: I mean, he had a great season opener, but then

1074
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 5: he fombled the ball. So he hasn't been the same. Yeah,

1075
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 5: he hasn't been the same since he put it on

1076
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 5: the ground. Maybe it's a mind thing or whatever. But

1077
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 5: if he doesn't play with the same force and vigor.

1078
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 5: It changes the dynamics of their offense. And Lamar Jackson

1079
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 5: has been out that also makes it hard. It's a

1080
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 5: lot easier when there's a dynamic threat at quarterback to

1081
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 5: be able to get off at running back. But no,

1082
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 5: it hasn't looked great. They got to find a way

1083
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 5: to fix it. They need him to play at a

1084
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 5: high level to be able to win consistently.

1085
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I tell I'm surprised if this one you

1086
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 2: wrote about him as well. I mean, when Pete Carroll

1087
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: took over in Las Vegas, I thought it'd be a

1088
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 2: good marriage. Bring a Geno Smith back. This guy, Geno

1089
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: Smith has become a turnover machine. Hey, I don't know

1090
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: what happened to him. I mean, he maybe just lost it,

1091
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: lack of confidence. I don't know what it is. But

1092
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 2: he got to turn it around quickly because that team

1093
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: isn't good anymore.

1094
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 5: Now the team isn't good and it's as far because

1095
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 5: he's turning the ball over too much.

1096
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: That's on him. He's trying to do too much.

1097
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 5: He's trying to be a hero as opposed to play

1098
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 5: within the confines of the offense and the players go

1099
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 5: through this where ego gets involved. His ego get involved,

1100
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 5: and that's why he's turning it over.

1101
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: He has nine interceptions nine and five.

1102
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 5: Games, they have ten. They lead the league in giveaways.

1103
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 5: That's why the Raiders aren't winning. You turn the ball over,

1104
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 5: you losing this league. That's just what it is.

1105
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: What about saus Gardon, I mean, not only is he

1106
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 2: having some problems with penalties, but he's basically pointing his

1107
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 2: finger at the officials saying that because his team isn't winning,

1108
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: the Jets, you know, they're getting penalized more so than

1109
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: other teams. I mean, that's a weak excuse, I think.

1110
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: I mean, really, he's just not playing well.

1111
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean two things can be true at once.

1112
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 5: He's not playing well, but they certainly don't get the

1113
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 5: benefit of the doubt when it comes to you know,

1114
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 5: the tiki tag calls that some teams get away with

1115
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 5: and a lot of times.

1116
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: To the victor goes to spoils.

1117
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 5: The better you are, the more breaks you get because

1118
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 5: people expect to see you win, and there's a natural

1119
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 5: bias that comes in there for the Jets.

1120
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: They're losers, they've been losers, and you don't get that.

1121
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 5: You have to overcome that stigma and overcome some of

1122
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 5: the things that come along with that. And they can

1123
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 5: do it, but they they have to win before it changes.

1124
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 5: Right now, the perception is terrible on.

1125
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: It, no doubt about that. Here a guy. You are

1126
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: close to.

1127
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: This guy, Brian Thomas wide receive it for you at

1128
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars. Maybe having this sophomore slump. I don't know

1129
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 2: what it is, but he's gonna be the number one guy.

1130
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: He's the number one option you would think in Jacksonville

1131
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: right now through four games, just twelve catches.

1132
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 3: But maybe it's the new head coach. Maybe the system.

1133
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1134
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what the system basically is or was.

1135
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell just by looking. Maybe you can. You're there,

1136
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: you're on there, you're there every week and you see practices.

1137
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: But what happened to Brian Thomas.

1138
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 5: He started out at the beginning of the season, dropping

1139
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 5: past is just having a tough time holding on to

1140
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 5: the ball. He has come out of that of late.

1141
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 5: He's performed better, making some big plays. We saw some

1142
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 5: big plays on Monday night against Kansas City Chiefs. It's

1143
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 5: just u you know, sometimes the expectations that you put

1144
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 5: on yourself can bog you down in your mind, meaning

1145
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 5: you have a great first season and you expect to

1146
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 5: pick up where you left off and it just doesn't

1147
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 5: happen like that. He's getting better, it's just tough. It's

1148
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 5: tough being the number one. There are a lot of

1149
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 5: expectations that come with being the number one receiver, and

1150
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 5: he just has to kind of.

1151
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: Step up to the plate.

1152
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: You're speaking of number one receiver. This guy as the

1153
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 2: first round pick chrys Olave with the Saints. He's got

1154
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: an excuse. That team is just bad. It's a bad

1155
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: team and a bad quarterback. So you know, I kind

1156
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,479
Speaker 2: of give him. I'll pass, I'll give him a past

1157
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: chrys Olave.

1158
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I mean he's overcoming like concussion issues.

1159
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: The team hasn't been great.

1160
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 5: They're trying to figure it out, trying to figure out

1161
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 5: who they are and what they're about. It's one of

1162
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 5: those things where they just have to continue to find themselves.

1163
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 5: And having him win last week against the Giants, being

1164
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 5: able to see Spencer Radlar get it together. But a

1165
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 5: lot of is a talented player. He's too good to

1166
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 5: struggle the way that he.

1167
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: Stroke no doubt about that.

1168
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of falling shot, and these guys are falling

1169
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: short and hopefully, you know, for them, they would turn

1170
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: it around. But let's talk about some other people that

1171
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: are falling short. The NFL and the goal line. It's

1172
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: eight inches stick eight inches has white paint stretched across

1173
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: a fifty three and a third yard width of the

1174
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: playing field, separates the green grass from the playing field.

1175
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: So it's really hard to miss it really is. But

1176
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 2: a couple of guys are doing that. Okay, they're dropping

1177
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: the ball before they get to the end zone. For

1178
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: two consecutive weeks of player released the ball right before

1179
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: the goal line.

1180
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 3: All right, what is happening? Why is this? Why are

1181
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 3: they falling short?

1182
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 2: I talk about premature okay, the pretre premature touchdown celebrations.

1183
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 2: Is this a problem in the league? Is in an accident?

1184
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 2: These guys are going to continue to do it. It's

1185
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 2: killing the league. I mean, really, Arizona lost that game

1186
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: last week because of that. Tennessee got to win out

1187
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 2: of that deal. They really did. I mean, and as

1188
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 2: a fan, you don't want to see that. I don't

1189
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 2: care about celebrations. I mean, what do they say in

1190
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: Jacksonville does a coach even mention that they talk about it.

1191
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't get it. When Mitchell had that

1192
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: seventy five you had touchdown catch and he dropped it.

1193
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: He just let the ball go down. I mean, Indianapolis

1194
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: should be undefeated now. I mean, really, it's a terrible

1195
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: thing for teams to do that. And I could just

1196
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: imagine what the guy who drops the ball feels like

1197
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 2: in that locker room after the game.

1198
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 5: The guys are so there's so many things this has happened.

1199
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 5: It's been happening for a long time, going all the

1200
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 5: way back to DeShawn Jackson dropping the ball in two

1201
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 5: thousand and eight against the Cowboys before.

1202
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: Going into the end zone.

1203
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 5: They eventually scored, but it was one of the first

1204
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 5: times we've seen International Football League player drop the ball

1205
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 5: before they got into the zone. He did the same

1206
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 5: thing in the US Army game back in two thousand

1207
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 5: and five when he was a high school senior. He

1208
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 5: did a flip landy short of the goal line and

1209
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 5: fumbled the ball going in. Sometimes people just get so

1210
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 5: caught up in wanting to show that they sacrifice the.

1211
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: Fundamentals going in, and I understand it.

1212
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 5: I'm a kid of the era when Billy White Shoes

1213
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 5: Johnson would do the funky Chicken after scoring touchdowns for

1214
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 5: the Atlanta Falcons, and I would seeing.

1215
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: It and want to do that.

1216
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 5: And sometimes people get so caught up in the cool factor,

1217
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 5: and the cool factor exists in seven on seven culture

1218
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 5: where these kids are really more known for their celebrations

1219
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 5: than the plays, and so you spend all your time

1220
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 5: thinking about how cool can I be when I get

1221
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 5: into the end zone, as opposed to really following the fundamentals.

1222
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 5: And I've heard NFL coaches talk about letters and logos

1223
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 5: when you get into the end zone. Don't put the

1224
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 5: ball down until you see the letters in logos in

1225
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 5: the paint. When you do that, they know you've crossed

1226
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 5: the goal line, et cetera. But guys have to do that,

1227
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 5: they're just losing sight of the bigger goal, the bigger

1228
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 5: goals to score for your team and win.

1229
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: Okay, you were in the era of Billy White Shoes

1230
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 2: Johnson doing that doing that, and it was good, it

1231
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 2: was funny, and it was entertaining, no doubt about that.

1232
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: I'm in the air as a kid growing up when

1233
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: Homer Jones of the New York Football Giants number forty five.

1234
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 2: I remember him, like goes yesterday. He invented the spike.

1235
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: He would get a touchdown pass going to the end

1236
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 2: zone and just slammed that ball on the ground. It

1237
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: was Homer Jones who started doing that at first, all right,

1238
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: but he was in the end zone. These guys were

1239
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: in the end zone when they did that, and the

1240
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: other fellas are dropping the ball prior to their spinning

1241
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 2: the ball around. They're trying to get one hand to

1242
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: the other. It doesn't work. The NFL players, I believe,

1243
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: should not have to be told to hold onto the

1244
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 2: football until they're deep into the end zone. All right,

1245
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: what do coaches say that they give them any pet talk?

1246
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: I mean, the acter tell him this. Maybe coaches should

1247
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: demand that the players weren't out of the back of

1248
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 2: the end zone before they let go of the football.

1249
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: Or maybe teams maybe should start finding these players instead

1250
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: of like in Arizona, the coach punching him find the

1251
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: guy and the coach ended up getting fined for one

1252
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: hundred grand. Right, it's terrible. I mean, it's unbelievable a release. Honestly,

1253
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 2: it's just there's too much of a punishment. I don't know.

1254
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 2: I don't know what they could do, but I think

1255
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: it's disgusting to lose a game like that.

1256
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you don't like to lose due to

1257
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 5: self inflicted errors.

1258
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: And if you're going to play this game, you want

1259
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: to play it the right way. And you have to

1260
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: talk to them.

1261
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 5: No matter who they are, they're pros, you still got

1262
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 5: to coach them like their high school players. You have

1263
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 5: to talk to them about the things that are important

1264
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 5: to being able to win games. And one of the

1265
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 5: things that's important to being able to win games is

1266
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 5: not beat on now sales with the stupid plays.

1267
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: And that's a stupid play. If you're about to score

1268
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: a touchdown and you drop the ball before the end zone.

1269
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 5: That's stupid. That's just what it is. It's a dumb play.

1270
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 5: Put the ball in the paint. Make sure you have

1271
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 5: to every play you hand the ball to the referee.

1272
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 5: You can hand the ball to the referee and go

1273
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 5: and do whatever celebration you want to do, but don't

1274
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 5: sacrifice the execution for the show voting. And people are

1275
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 5: sacrificing that to show vote.

1276
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: You know, how much do coaches talk about how one

1277
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: should have their should act.

1278
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 3: I mean, certainly coaches go over plays.

1279
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: I watch all those shows, the HBO deal, you know,

1280
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 2: prior to the season, and they show whether the coaches

1281
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 2: you know, in.

1282
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: Meetings and whatever it may be.

1283
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 2: But I don't see coaches really talking how players should

1284
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: behave really, I mean, how you decorum, you know, off

1285
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: the field, you know, when you meet people, when you

1286
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 2: talk to the press. You know, it's all about x's

1287
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 2: and o's and how you do plays. But the coaches

1288
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: actually get a hold of a player and say you

1289
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 2: shouldn't do this, you should act like this, you shouldn't

1290
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: do it.

1291
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 3: I mean, really do they do that?

1292
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean back in the day, I remember the Bengals

1293
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: used to have to wear shirts and ties on away trips.

1294
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 3: I don't think that. I don't think any team does

1295
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 3: that now.

1296
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 5: No, I mean, but I think you have to tell them,

1297
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 5: like there's certain standards and expectations for what you want

1298
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 5: to see, and you'll see this.

1299
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: You'll see people in two minute.

1300
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 5: Drills make sure they hand the ball to the ref

1301
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 5: or do whatever those things are.

1302
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: The coach has to figure out what he values most

1303
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:57,959
Speaker 1: and what he wants his.

1304
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Speaker 5: Team to be about, and what he wants him to

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00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 5: look like. And if you want certain things from your team,

1306
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 5: you have to demand it and the way that you

1307
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 5: get what you demand. And so if you want them

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00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 5: to give the ball to the rift and you demand it,

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Speaker 5: regardless whether they're pros and A do you think but

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Speaker 5: I do not want to see us penalized for not

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Speaker 5: putting the ball in the paint.

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Speaker 1: Give the ball to the rift and go do whatever

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Speaker 1: celebration that you want to do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we've always been told, I mean media people say

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00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: this all the time. The team takes to put to

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Speaker 2: you personality of the head coach. Okay, so if a

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00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: team is sloppy with penalties, if a team has players

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00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 2: as show voting, does that mean see you never saw

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00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: that in New England with Belichick coach. That would never happen. Really,

1320
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: so they do take after the coach. So coaches don't care.

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Speaker 2: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 3: I mean?

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Speaker 2: Today we have the Cardinals playing the Colts. Is that

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Speaker 2: fate that over the last two weeks, those are the

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Speaker 2: two teams that had guys show voting and went into

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Speaker 2: the end zone and dropped the ball. The Cardinals playing

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00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: at the Colts today, it's amazing and believe me, they'll

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Speaker 2: be showing those three plays during that game on TV.

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Speaker 1: That I promise you, yeah, I won't say that they

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Speaker 1: don't care.

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Speaker 5: I think sometimes guys have brain forests and they mess up.

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Speaker 1: But you get what you emphasize.

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00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 5: And so if you emphasize a certain level of execution

1334
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 5: and play or whatever, you will get it because you

1335
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 5: have to hold them accountable to what your expectations are

1336
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 5: as the head coach, as the leader of the program.

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Speaker 1: So you can get it.

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00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 5: You can get guys to acquiesce to to what you

1339
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 5: want them to do, but you have to be consistent

1340
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 5: and you have to be consistent every day in demanding

1341
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 5: that stuff. And if you do that, eventually they're changed

1342
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 5: or you find somebody else they can get it done.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about this Cardinals game at

1345
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: the Colts senate coach that I say the coach should

1346
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: probably be five and zero. Carlinos have lost three straight.

1347
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: They're two and three right now in Arizona. They lost

1348
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: three fumbles last week to the Titans. I mean, you

1349
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: just stop, you know the key stating football really and

1350
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: truly when you want to get right down.

1351
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: To it, it's turning the ball over.

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00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: The team that doesn't turn the ball over the most

1353
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: usually wins the ball game. Stop looking at stats, what

1354
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: a quarterback throws for and all these deals. Right now,

1355
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: it's all about turnovers, isn't it. It's turnover battle that

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Speaker 2: wins the game.

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00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 5: Yes, and it always will be. It'll never change. It

1358
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 5: is always about the turnovers. You turn the ball over,

1359
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 5: you lose games in this league, and you have to

1360
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 5: kind of find a way to minimize that. If you

1361
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 5: minimize the turnovers, it gives you a shot to be

1362
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 5: able to get it done. But the first thing that

1363
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 5: you have to do is minimize the turnovers. Make sure

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00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 5: that you give yourself a chance by taking care of

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00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 5: the ball that every turn.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about that. He is Bucket Brooks. Get him

1367
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Speaker 2: on X at Bucket Brooks or at Andy Furman FSL.

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Speaker 2: We'll take some phone goals at eight seven, seven ninety

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Speaker 2: nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty

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Speaker 2: three sixty nine. We've got the blame game coming up

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00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: at the end of this hourl But don't look now,

1372
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: don't look close your eyes, don't look now.

1373
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: But this team's winning. They are they're winning.

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Speaker 7: That's coming right up next Fox Sports Radio has the

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Speaker 7: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of

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Speaker 7: our shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within the

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Speaker 7: iHeartRadio app search FS to listen live.

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Speaker 3: The nightmare is getting worse. It is.

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Speaker 2: That's next, all right, He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Firmer.

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Speaker 2: We have Fox Football Sunday of Fox Sports Radio. Got

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01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: the blame game coming up at about twelve thirteen minutes

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Speaker 2: from now. We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: But right now it's time for the ti Iraq Player Today.

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Speaker 8: The Hoosias come up with it at Isaiah Jones comes

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Speaker 8: up with the pick him Indiana.

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Speaker 3: I gets the football back again. How do you like that?

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Speaker 2: The golden tones of Don Fisher from Landfield. Isaiah Jones

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Speaker 2: with the pick on Dante Moore in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: The Hoosias go on too. In yesterday in Oregon, how

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Speaker 2: do you like that? The Hoosia's undefeated. The player of

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Speaker 2: should be. Okay, now, let's get into the business at hand,

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Speaker 2: because in winning right now, we can mention the Colts,

1401
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: we can mention the Broncos, we can mention the Jags,

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01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: we can mention the.

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01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Bucks. But one team is at the top

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01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 3: of the food chain.

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01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: You want to take a guest, let's go around. You

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01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 2: want to take a guest, Brie, our producer. You want

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01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: to think, I guess which team we're talking about right

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01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: now that's winning.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say the New Orleans Saints, but I'm

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01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 4: starting to think that's correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't embarrass yourself. I'm rude, Bucky, you'll have the answer.

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Speaker 3: I know, Bucky, You'll know.

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Speaker 1: No, I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: The New England Patriots. The New England Patriots are three

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Speaker 2: and two. They're playing at New Orleans today though, Brie

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Speaker 2: and the Patriots have a winning record after five games

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01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: for the first time since they were five and oho

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Speaker 2: and twenty nineteen. How do you like that? And Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: They beat Buffalo in Buffalo, So Bucky Brooks is the

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Speaker 2: perfect guy to get into this in dissect.

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Speaker 3: Drake May.

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Speaker 2: We had a caller early on, but that guy didn't

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Speaker 2: know what he was talking about because he insulted me.

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Speaker 3: But let's look at their quarterback. Drake May, a North

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Speaker 3: Carolina guy.

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Speaker 2: His five game output on offense is the Patriots best

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Speaker 2: since twenty seventeen. What has Mike Vrabel done to turn

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Speaker 2: this team around with the same personnel as a year ago.

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Speaker 5: Well one, it's not exactly the same. They brought in

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Speaker 5: a ton of free agents. There were old, grizzled guys,

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Speaker 5: a bunch of his guys that are tough seeing quarterback, physical,

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Speaker 5: those things, and so defensively they play a tough brand

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Speaker 5: of ball. The physicality, the toughness, understanding who they are. Offensively,

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Speaker 5: Stefan Diggs matching up with Drake May has been good

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Speaker 5: because it gives him a quality receiver to throw to,

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Speaker 5: someone who's dependable and reliable, trustworthy. That's critical for a

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Speaker 5: young quarterback to know that when I throw the ball

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01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 5: to the spot, this player's going to show up and

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Speaker 5: be there. That has helped they've attempted to run the football,

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01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 5: even though Ramondre Stevenson has had some fumble issues. They've

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Speaker 5: tried to really manage the game, control the game at

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Speaker 5: least a quarterback when it's been favorable. And look, he's

1444
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Speaker 5: flourished in this thing. And when you look at the Patriots,

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Speaker 5: it's important to not measure them on their statistical output,

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01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 5: but more so on how they control the game. They

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Speaker 5: make people play in a style that they don't like playing,

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01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 5: and they have a lot of success because they're great

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Speaker 5: in situational football.

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Speaker 1: They do a.

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Speaker 5: Terrific job of dominating the line of scrimmage, and their

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01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 5: physicality and toughness can wear you down if you're not

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Speaker 5: prepared for it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you got the Patriots playing at

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01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 2: New Orleans today. And also I was amazed really in

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Speaker 2: fact that they had some takeaways and the takeaways last

1457
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: week we talked about takeaways as the key to the game.

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01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: You know, which team has to at least them out

1459
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Speaker 2: of the takeaways. That's what won the game for New

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Speaker 2: Orleans last week. They scored points or if their takeaways.

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Speaker 2: So we can see what happens right now. It won't

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Speaker 2: be an easy game. For the Patriots. I like the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see them win. But also you talk

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01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: about mistakes and takeaways. They're running backs. They both fumbled

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Speaker 2: again last week against the Bills, but obviously New England

1466
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Speaker 2: won the game. But Stevenson and Gibson fumble the football.

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Speaker 2: You got to stop fumbling the football, keep the football

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Speaker 2: in There are there any drills in football that could

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Speaker 2: keep a player from not fumbling, you know, whey they

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Speaker 2: hold the ball. I mean, I'm seeing guys getting the

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Speaker 2: ball punched out when they started running the ball right now.

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Speaker 2: Is there a drill that could keep them from not fumbling?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just have to always be aware of it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's no one that can guarantee that you're

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Speaker 5: never going to fumble, but you have to be conscious

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01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 5: of taking care of the football in traffic, two hands,

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01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 5: they're holding it high and tight whenever in the open field,

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01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 5: handing the ball to the ref at the end of

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01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 5: every play, to make sure that you don't get loosey

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Speaker 5: goosey with it at the end of runs. All those things.

1481
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 5: There has to be a heightened sense of aware and

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01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 5: that's when it comes to turnovers.

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Speaker 1: You can't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the key. I know a lot of people do,

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01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: I mean stupid turnovers as well. You know, you talk

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Speaker 2: about turning it around. New England looks like they're turning

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Speaker 2: it around with Rabel and he's tough. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: a tough guy. And talk about team taking the image

1489
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Speaker 2: of their coach, they're certainly doing that in New England.

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Speaker 2: But let's talk about your alma matter for a second.

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Speaker 2: And their coach, Bill Belichick, was when the University of

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Speaker 2: North Carolina hired the guy Bill Belichick the coach their

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Speaker 2: football team, and it wasn't in bad shape. But you know,

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01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: they said they wanted a younger guy, but they ended

1495
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 2: up getting a coach older than their former coach. But

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Speaker 2: what happened when they hired him. They sold out the tickets,

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Speaker 2: the donations were coming in. They had excitement all over,

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Speaker 2: not only Chap a little bit, I guess the entire

1499
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Speaker 2: state of North Carolina of getting the greatest coach and

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Speaker 2: I say it in capital letters, the greatest coach of

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Speaker 2: all time. Bill Belichick kind of turned that program around

1502
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 2: and after ten months, right now they want him gone.

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01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: The enthusiasm is gone. North Carolina's blowout laws to a

1504
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Speaker 2: team of like Clemson.

1505
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 3: Which is mediocre. The wreck was two and three.

1506
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Speaker 2: I watched that game on TV and by halftime, everybody

1507
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: was gone. Look, they say Rome wasn't built in the day.

1508
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: I didn't think that Bill Belichick would have a losing

1509
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 2: record this year, but I didn't think they'd win double

1510
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 2: digit ball games.

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Speaker 3: It takes time, you know.

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01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 2: Sure you're going through the portlar get play you talked

1513
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: about early on, and I listened to you, and I

1514
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: listened to you with two years. That's why God gave

1515
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: me two years and one mouth two years. I listen

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Speaker 2: to you. You know, it takes time to mesh these

1517
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 2: players coming together out of the portal. I still think

1518
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: he's going to turn it around, but I worry will

1519
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 2: they give him the time to turn them around? Turn

1520
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: it around at North Carolina, come on the two and

1521
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: three and this play and the problems off the field,

1522
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: the armand Hawkins was suspended assistant coach.

1523
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 3: For rules violation.

1524
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: It's not a good look. It really isn't. But I

1525
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 2: just hope they keep him there. I hope he wants

1526
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 2: to stay there.

1527
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 5: Look, I mean, the other thing that North Carolina can

1528
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 5: focus on is what the product looks like on the field,

1529
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick has to go to work, has to make

1530
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 5: the team better. Despite the disappointment that everyone has around

1531
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 5: the program, sitting here at two and three, two and four,

1532
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 5: wherever they are, they just have to focus on what

1533
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 5: they can control, and that's the next time they have

1534
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 5: a chance to play. They need to play better than

1535
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 5: they played previously. They played Kale on the seventeenth. Expect

1536
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,919
Speaker 5: them to take the bye week that they've had last

1537
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 5: week and then the game week to get ready to play.

1538
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 5: No matter what people say, TCU, Clemson, the teams that

1539
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 5: they were blown out by, I mean even UCF, Clemson

1540
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 5: and TCU were better than North Carolina on paper.

1541
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: They didn't go in as favors. They shouldn't have gone

1542
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: in as favors.

1543
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 5: Vegas can say whatever, like those teams were better, they

1544
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 5: were well constructed or whatever. UCF game is probably the

1545
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 5: one that's the most disappointing, but you lost it. So

1546
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 5: you got to acknowledge whatever you did wrong in those

1547
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 5: losses and you have to fix it and make it better.

1548
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 5: And hopefully they did that during the bye week. But

1549
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 5: this was not going to be a double digit win team.

1550
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 5: Whoever believed that was looking at this team in Carolina

1551
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 5: blue glasses and not really being real with what it is.

1552
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 5: And they have to ignore the noise and keep playing

1553
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 5: because the noise is going to be loud because there

1554
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 5: are a lot of casuals that are checking in, there

1555
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 5: are a lot of haters that are checking in, and

1556
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 5: they just have to focus on what they control, was

1557
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 5: the product.

1558
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 2: Okay, the question here and this is the crazy established.

1559
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: Now you know everybody's looking at this program through in

1560
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 2: my scope. It's not just the coach. It's not just

1561
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 2: the one lost record. It's everything from top to bottom

1562
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: with his girlfriend and all that stuff. Look it should

1563
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 2: be just what's happening on the field. And look, it'll

1564
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 2: turn around. I know it's going to turn around, because

1565
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 2: he's too good of a coach not to have a turnaround.

1566
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 3: But it takes time. But they suspended their quarterbacks coach.

1567
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 2: Armand Hawkins for recruiting violations, and according to the Athletic

1568
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 2: the other day, they said it's related to extra benefits

1569
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 2: afforded to recruits. How in the hell do you give

1570
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: recruits extra benefits where they're getting paid nil money anyway?

1571
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: And well, how stupid can you be to be doing that.

1572
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 5: Well, they said he provided sideline passes and access, so

1573
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 5: that's a violation of the rules.

1574
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: Then you have to punish because those are the rules.

1575
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: That's what it is.

1576
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 5: And if he did it, then they're gonna punish him.

1577
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 5: They're removing them from the field and eventually from the staff,

1578
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 5: and they'll make sure they don't make those mistakes again.

1579
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: That's part of it.

1580
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 5: Like there's rules violations that are committed and everyone that

1581
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,919
Speaker 5: is caught they have to serve their time or their punishment,

1582
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 5: whatever it is. And so Carolina will have to face

1583
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 5: up for self reporting what took place and on up

1584
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 5: to it. The other things are the other things, like

1585
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 5: it is salacious to talk about a seventy three year

1586
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 5: old man with a mid twenty something girlfriend. It is

1587
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 5: always going to be salacious in that aspect. I mean,

1588
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 5: that's just what it is. Is something that society deems

1589
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 5: to be incorrect, and it's weird and cringey and all

1590
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 5: that other stuff. And so it plays out in the university.

1591
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 5: It's wrapped up in that part of the soap opera.

1592
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 5: They have to figure it out. But they knew he

1593
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 5: was dating her when they hired him. And so they

1594
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 5: had to be prepared for the storm of criticism and outcries.

1595
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: And stuff that came with it.

1596
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 5: The main thing is this, the only thing that anyone

1597
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 5: really cares about is whether they're winning or losing. So

1598
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick and the staff need to focus their efforts

1599
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 5: on finding a way to win games.

1600
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: The more you win.

1601
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 5: The less do they have an opportunity to take shots

1602
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 5: at the program.

1603
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: So focus on winning games.

1604
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 3: Here's my question to you.

1605
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 2: If you play for North Carolina, you're close to the program,

1606
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: you know what's going on.

1607
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 3: You got your head to the ground on this, all right.

1608
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 2: Do you think that players in the locker room really

1609
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 2: care that he's dating a twenty four year old girl

1610
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 2: or does it hurt him?

1611
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 3: Does it affect him?

1612
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 2: And moreover, if he's going out to recruit and it

1613
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 2: goes into a parent's home in their living room, the

1614
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: parents are going to bring that up to him and say,

1615
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 2: I don't want my son playing for you. If you're

1616
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: dating a woman that young, Could that hurt him or

1617
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 2: will it hurt him in that regard?

1618
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 5: I don't think he will hurt him, But there's gonna

1619
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 5: be some isolated incidents where that stuff comes up and

1620
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 5: you know what, if they don't want to be coach

1621
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 5: from me, then you go on to the next one.

1622
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 5: Every program is not a fit for every player, and

1623
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 5: you have to be resolute and knowing who you are

1624
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 5: and what you're about, and you have to be committed

1625
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 5: to sticking to the brand. And whatever the brand is

1626
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 5: that Carolina is promoting. They have to make sure that

1627
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,440
Speaker 5: recruits and players that they bring it to the program

1628
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 5: fit that.

1629
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: And just because it starts off slow, it doesn't matter.

1630
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,839
Speaker 5: It depends on how this team finished first year, new culture,

1631
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 5: new environment, new process. You want to make sure that

1632
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,799
Speaker 5: you're playing your best ball down the stretch as everyone

1633
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,480
Speaker 5: acclimates to the new way of doing thing and eventually

1634
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 5: succeeds within the new way of doing things. That's the

1635
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 5: only thing that you can do when you're a coach

1636
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 5: taking over a new program.

1637
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 3: They've had three losses by twenty five points and more.

1638
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: I was still this. I'll go to my grave by

1639
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 2: saying this. He's the greatest NFL coach of all time.

1640
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how this happens. I guess just the

1641
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 2: melting pot of players coming in from all areas and

1642
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 2: trying to get it together to learn a new system

1643
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 2: in one shot.

1644
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 3: And I guess you expect.

1645
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 5: You don't know how what happens, how you lose three games,

1646
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 5: or how you lose by twenty five points in three games.

1647
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, which part of.

1648
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 5: The surprise, Which part of your surprise that those teams

1649
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 5: are better?

1650
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: The teams are better.

1651
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 3: The Central Florida game is bad.

1652
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 5: The Central far Other game is absolutely bad. That's the

1653
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 5: one that stands out like a red herring. Clemson was

1654
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 5: being talked about as being a national champion. They stumbled

1655
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 5: out the gate or whatever. But let's not act like

1656
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 5: Clemson are the little sisters of the poor, and they

1657
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 5: don't have talent, and they're not a team that we

1658
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,879
Speaker 5: expected to be a playoff team, so they were expected

1659
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 5: to lose. The Clemson TCU was a bit of a

1660
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 5: toss up, just because TCU is a really good program.

1661
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 5: But it's the season opening. Two years ago they played

1662
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 5: Colorado and Colorado took them down. Given that experience where

1663
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 5: they played Colorado and all of the noise that came

1664
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 5: with it, they were better prepared to take it on

1665
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:30,839
Speaker 5: this time. What we have are a program being measured

1666
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:36,520
Speaker 5: by outsiders expectations. What matters more. What weoure the internal expectations.

1667
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 5: What do they really expect this team to be? Do

1668
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 5: they expect this team to be an eight win team

1669
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:41,719
Speaker 5: or a timent team.

1670
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: Whatever that is. That's what they have to measure.

1671
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 5: And while all the noise is going, everyone inside the

1672
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 5: building just needs to focus on what they can control,

1673
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 5: and that's their job.

1674
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: They do their job, focus on that part of it.

1675
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: Let the noise.

1676
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,719
Speaker 5: The people are going to talk, because if it turns around,

1677
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 5: those same people that are talking negatively will then find

1678
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 5: a way to write articles that are positive because the

1679
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 5: name brings clickbait and value in buzz. That's why people

1680
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 5: keep talking about North Carolina.

1681
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: You're exactly right, and you know I'm gonna make a

1682
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: long comparison over here to your Jacksonville Jaguars and the

1683
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 2: loss against Central Florida. For North Carolina, Jacksonville was better

1684
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 2: and it is a better team thans the Cincinnati Bengals.

1685
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 2: They're four and one. They should be five and zero

1686
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 2: right now. That was a bad loss. The Central Florida

1687
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 2: game was a bad loss. It happens, Okay, I'm sure

1688
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: that was really a loss that still rings mightily in

1689
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 2: the hearts of the coaching staff of Jacksonville right now,

1690
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 2: as they see what the Bengals have become. They should

1691
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 2: have beaten that game. They should have beaten the Bengals

1692
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: in that game in Cincinnati. It's a bad loss, but

1693
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: it happens, right and just just the nature of the game.

1694
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens to the rest of their way.

1695
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: That's the key right there. But I will tell you

1696
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 2: this much, I think that Bill Belichick and the minds

1697
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: of some they're gonna say his legacy is gonna be tarnished.

1698
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna say that it was Brady not Belichick, and

1699
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: those people are crazy, and you're right.

1700
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 3: They just want clicks as all they do. He is

1701
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 3: the greatest coach in the history of the nege.

1702
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 5: Like, it doesn't matter all that stuff about the Brady

1703
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 5: is it Brady, is it Belichick or whatever, It doesn't

1704
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 5: really matter.

1705
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: At the end of the day.

1706
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 5: There's not a great coach who hasn't done it without

1707
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 5: great players. Vince Lombardi had a slew of Hall of

1708
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 5: famers at his watch.

1709
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: That is why he won.

1710
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 5: Typically, the team that wins the team that has the

1711
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 5: better players. It is a policy in the myth that

1712
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 5: we romanticize that the coach out coached somebody else to win.

1713
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: Bill Wash with the San Francisco forty nine ers.

1714
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 5: One because he had Joe Montana and Jerry Rice and

1715
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 5: others that are in the Hall of Fame like Ronnie Lott.

1716
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: That is what it takes.

1717
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 5: It takes Hall of Fame caliber players to coach at

1718
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 5: a Hall of Fame level.

1719
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: It has never changed and it will always be that way.

1720
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 5: So a lot of this is performative art that we

1721
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 5: do on our side in the media when we have

1722
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 5: these discussions about oh, is it Brady, is it Belichick

1723
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 5: or whatever, it's all of them because it takes all

1724
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 5: of them, great coach, great players to be able to

1725
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 5: win at the highest level.

1726
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 3: Well said Bucky Brooks.

1727
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm Andy Fermweil Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio,

1728
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 2: and it's time to blow off some steam. It's the

1729
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,560
Speaker 2: Blame Game, and you know what it's freaking next on

1730
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 2: the Blame Game coming right up. I'll tell you it's

1731
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: about eleven minutes before the top of the hour. That

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Speaker 3: Now it's time for the play game. You ruin me.

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Speaker 7: It's all your fault, it's your fault, fault.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's everyone's fault.

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Speaker 1: Who knows.

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Speaker 7: He's a liar.

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Speaker 3: That's why there's the blame game, the blame game. Let's

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Speaker 3: figure out who to blame the blame game. He's a liar. Oh,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, Bray, it's all you, Okay.

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Speaker 4: The Eagles, with a new offensive coordinator, are struggling on

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Speaker 4: that side of the ball. Where is the run game?

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Speaker 4: And who do you blame?

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Speaker 5: Andy?

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Speaker 2: You can go First, I'm blaming the offensive coordinator. It's

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Speaker 2: proven fact that in years past when things are going

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Speaker 2: south for the Eagles, they started running the football. You

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Speaker 2: give sa Kwon Barkley, who is the offensive player of

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Speaker 2: the year a year ago, over two thousand yards eleven carries.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be the coaching staff, in particular zuro

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Speaker 2: wing in on the offensive coordinator, probably.

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Speaker 3: Trying to make a name for himself. No, go with

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Speaker 3: what got you there?

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Speaker 1: No, that's the players. When you have a J.

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Speaker 5: Brown and others voice and concerns about touches as opposed

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Speaker 5: to focus on the big part, which is winning, you

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Speaker 5: have an issue he career. It's a distraction. Makes it

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Speaker 5: harder for the offensive coordinator and focus on the things

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Speaker 5: that make the team successful because then you subconstantly are

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Speaker 5: trying to please everybody and they just need to win

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Speaker 5: the games.

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Speaker 1: If you win the games, guys can get over it.

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Speaker 1: Just find a way to win the game.

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Speaker 3: You know what. That's I'm gonna give Bucky a point

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Speaker 3: and that he's right. I blew that one.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's the plays internal internal dissension over there.

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Speaker 2: Give me the ball. That's basically what it's okay, Bookie

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Speaker 2: gets that one.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Aaron Glenn is the only Jets the head coach

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Speaker 4: to start own five in his first year with the team. Bucky,

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Speaker 4: who do you blame?

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Speaker 5: I blame him, like you're coaching it or allowing it

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Speaker 5: to happen. The team is on five, they play close games.

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Speaker 1: The thing that has lost.

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Speaker 5: They played three one score games that they've lost, but

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Speaker 5: they haven't found a way to get it done.

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Speaker 1: They have to find a way to get it done.

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Speaker 5: I believe in ag I like what they're trying to do,

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Speaker 5: but the end of the day, it's the bottom line business.

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Speaker 1: You gotta win games, you know.

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Speaker 2: I like to see them win, and I think that

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Speaker 2: he can win, but you have to have that winning attitude.

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Speaker 2: Once they get over the hump. If they win one

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Speaker 2: of those close games, I think they could turn it

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Speaker 2: around because I don't think there as bad as their record.

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Speaker 2: But right now, when you start losing and their own

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Speaker 2: five after their first five, you get the tight end,

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Speaker 2: the tight butt, and the thing appointing starts and then

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Speaker 2: it gets really ugly. I don't think he's lost the

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Speaker 2: locker room. I really don't, and I think they're decent

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Speaker 2: but they got to turn it around rather quickly.

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Speaker 4: All righty, So those the Raiders are struggling offensively, and

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Speaker 4: coach Pete Carroll made a comment about the game plan

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Speaker 4: not being great surrounding ash and gent who do you blame? Andy?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 2: That's bad? Keep that internally. I gotta believe the head coach.

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Speaker 2: You just can't go public with the game plan. The

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Speaker 2: fans don't care. I honestly, Bucky, I don't believe fans

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Speaker 2: care about game plan.

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Speaker 3: They care about results, you know.

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Speaker 2: And when the coach starts going public about game plan,

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Speaker 2: that's not good.

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Speaker 5: Not a good thing, No, not a good look for

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Speaker 5: pekr he knows better. I would blame Pete Carroll, be goes. Ultimately,

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Speaker 5: Chip Kelly has to do with Peak Cara wants. So

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Speaker 5: Pete Carroll needs to going in and tell him exactly

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Speaker 5: what he wants. And maybe he doesn't get it. He

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Speaker 5: has to demand change or.

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Speaker 1: He has to change the player that's called the person

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Speaker 1: that's called in the place.

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Speaker 3: I agree, is that him?

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Speaker 4: That's exactly him?

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Speaker 3: Was that Pete Carroll? Literally you'll get another piece of

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Speaker 3: chewing gum.

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Speaker 1: Pete go ahead?

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Speaker 6: Really okay?

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Speaker 4: So justin Herbert, the Chargers quarterback, is on pace to

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Speaker 4: finish his sixth season in the NFL with six hundred

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Speaker 4: and twenty five total hits. Andrew Luck was hit five

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Speaker 4: hundred and eighty times in his six year NFL career

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Speaker 4: before he abruptly retired.

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Speaker 3: Who do you blame Bucky the injuries.

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Speaker 1: On the offensive line.

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Speaker 5: I mean, as much as the coaches want to keep

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Speaker 5: him protected, they can't keep their guys away from the

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Speaker 5: blue tent. All of the injuries up front impacted their

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Speaker 5: ability to protect him. And if he's not protected, he's

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Speaker 5: going to get hit. That's how it is.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Wait, wait just to say it, could it possibly be

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Speaker 2: the guys like Andrew Luck and Justin Herbert are really

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Speaker 2: not that mobile quarterbacks and also holding onto the ball

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Speaker 2: too long as well. We've seen that with Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Really you hold on to the ball, you go to

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Speaker 2: get hit. I mean there's only amount of time was

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Speaker 2: a two point five seconds? So yeah, you're right about

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Speaker 2: the offensive line, But I think the offensive line on

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Speaker 2: various teams gets a lot of blame for sometimes they

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Speaker 2: don't need to get that blamed.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with that? Buff?

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Speaker 5: No, it's the blame game. They gotta get blamed. That's

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Speaker 5: what we do. We blame people. Everyone's responsible for the results,

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Speaker 5: so they need to be blamed. Blaming the offensive line.

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Speaker 5: Did I play well enough? That's why they getting hit?

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Speaker 3: How do you like that? Anything else?

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Speaker 1: Bre?

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Speaker 3: You got anything else for us?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: I think you guys hit them all?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 1: What about the Saints? Saints places we can.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna win, Bucky Right

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon and Gret Cosell next right here on Fox

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