1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: Getting a set for Week seventeen of the National Football 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: League season, with three games already in the books. Our 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: good buddy Jared Smith will be joining us in about 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: twenty five minutes. He, of course, member of the bet 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: GM Countdown to Kickoff crew here on Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: You can hear Jared every Saturday morning here on Fox 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: Sports Radio every Saturday night, and you can hear my 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: partner in crime today, Aaron Torres here on FSR. 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 3: What's going on? 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 4: Aaron, Merry Christmas to you. It's good to be with you. 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 4: Was in yesterday. I know you had a much deserved 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: day off, So excited to be with you. Are you 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 4: and I rocking New Year's Eve? 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: Too? We are back at it. Yes, I know it's 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: a few days away. 19 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 4: Still got a lot of twenty twenty five left to 20 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: uh to, you know, to get through not get through 21 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 4: that sounds they give. But still a lot of twenty 22 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 4: twenty five left on the table. 23 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: But we'll be leading into the those college football playoff 24 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: quarterfinals games. Cotton Bowl, Ohio State and Miami on New 25 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: Year's Eve, and then you have the tripleheader on New 26 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: Year's Day. Sesame Street helped raise all of us. Now 27 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: it's our turn donate this holiday season at sesame dot 28 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: org because the world needs Sesame and Sesame needs you. 29 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: Continuing the college football discussion, just a little while ago, 30 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: we were talking about the abolishment of the USC Notre 31 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: Dame rivalry, at least putting it on hold for the 32 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: short foreseeable future for the next four or five years 33 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: or so. So now you've got the comments on why 34 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: these rivalry games are going by the wayside, and it's 35 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: a reason that My point that I just made to 36 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: you guys previously was I think that in college football, 37 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: we are ingrained that your rivalry game is the biggest 38 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: game of the year. Not your rivalry game and your 39 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: bowl game were your biggest games of the year. Then 40 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: your bowl game kind of started to take less of 41 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: an importance as the bulls got less and less as 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: we're trying to deter I'm in a national champion where 43 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: we're getting one versus two. Then we have a four 44 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: team bracket. Now we have a twelve team bracket. But 45 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: just because there's a twelve team bracket to maybe erase 46 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: the importance of a bowl game. Doesn't mean that we're 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: going to adapt to that format and completely be brought 48 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: into it. I think fans of the schools or of 49 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: the teams are brought into it and are excited. But 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: as a whole, I think that a lot of people 51 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: would sit down and maybe as a tradition that weren't 52 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: fans would watch USC Notre Dame, they would watch Ohio 53 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: State Michigan, one of the if not the highest rated 54 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: games that you get, you know, year in and year out. 55 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: So it's still taking some getting used to warm up 56 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: to the college football Playoff, and I'm not sure if 57 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: this year's bracket is the bracket to get people to 58 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: warm up to the college football Playoff that maybe aren't 59 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: necessarily as in depth with the sport as some of 60 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 2: us are. 61 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you brought up the point earlier, the difference between 62 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 4: say you and I that are going to watch everything. 63 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 4: Like I think Texas Tech is both a good team 64 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: and a good watch, I don't know what the average 65 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: fan does, And I think it is kind of interesting, 66 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 4: like we're setting up for a world where we could potentially, 67 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 4: you know, and even to go back to last year 68 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 4: very quickly. Certainly there was a lot of talk about 69 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: the opening weekend didn't live up to expectations, but we 70 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 4: got to a semi final situation of Penn State versus 71 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 4: Notre Dame and Texas versus Ohio State, which is we 72 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: all know for monster brands, monster fan bases, whatever. I 73 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 4: think we could be setting up for very possibly a 74 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: Texas Tech Indiana semi final here down the road. And 75 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: so I guess if you know, listen, I think if 76 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: you're a fan of a lot of schools that maybe 77 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 4: historically haven't been the Ohio States, the Michigan's, the Georgia's, 78 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: the whatever you gotta feel good of, Like, if Indiana 79 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: could do it, why can't we? If Texas Tech, I 80 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: know they have a lot of Nio money, but if 81 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: they can do it, why can't we. But I do 82 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: wonder for the overall quote unquote good of college football 83 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: if that is a net positive if we eventually get there, 84 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: and even frankly, as we open this tournament, as we're 85 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: now into this tournament with Indiana's the number one overall, see. 86 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: I want to bring in Jason Stewart in Iowa Sam 87 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: and Isaac Lohncron as well, just because I think we 88 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: all have varying degrees of college football fandom. But in 89 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 2: looking at this, I don't think that there's a quick fix. 90 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: What I do like about the New Year's Day is 91 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: we do have a triple header of meaningful games, even 92 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: if we have to change the kickoff of the Rose 93 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: Bowl to an hour earlier, so you're not going to 94 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: get that traditional end of third quarter camera shot that 95 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: becomes so famous with the San Gabriel Mountains in the 96 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: background that has gone by the wayside. It'll just happen 97 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: an hour later and maybe the game will be over 98 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: and that's where the game will be ending. But there's 99 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: a lot of change that comes with all of this. 100 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: To your point about the semi finals last year, you're right, 101 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: you really couldn't have picked four better schools to put 102 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: in the college football semi final, And I don't know 103 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: if there was a carryover effect. I don't think that 104 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: there was a carryover effect into the National championship game 105 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: of Notre Dame Ohio State. Where again, if you're picking 106 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: two programs that are talking about name brands like I mean, 107 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: it's it could be one two two one, and when 108 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: you're looking at both of those and I'm not sure 109 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: and how much people are looking back and saying like 110 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: what a great game that was and that's what I'm 111 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: curious about, or a game that they would remember. Notre Dame, 112 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: by the way, came back made it a game at 113 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: the end. But it's just taken a while for sports fans, 114 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: I think and will take a while to warm up 115 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: to this, if at all. And that's my question about 116 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: this bracket. So that's why I wanted to bring in Iowa. 117 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: Sam and Jason and Isaac. I know Jason's point of view, Sam, 118 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 2: are you at least Jason's point of view on the 119 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: first round? 120 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: Are you excited for these quarterfinal games? Sam? 121 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: On what we've got coming up on New Year's Eve 122 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: and on New Year's Day? Ohio State, Miami, Texas Tech, Oregon, Indiana, Alabama, Georgia, Ole. 123 00:05:54,160 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: Miss outside of Georgia Ole Miss being being a repeat, 124 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 5: but like those are that's that was all Missus one loss, Yes, 125 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 5: and Georgia looks like they could win it all. So 126 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 5: I even find some intrigue in that. I'm I'm pretty 127 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 5: I'm definitely much I'm much more excited about the quarterfinals. 128 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 5: I think all of those games have value and reason 129 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 5: to watch. Like Texas Tech to me, their defense like 130 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 5: they're a mystery to me because I haven't really watched 131 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 5: them all year. And then you go up against Oregon 132 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 5: and that explosive offense, the way they run the ball, 133 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 5: that's a great game. 134 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: And then Alabama Indiana. 135 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 5: It's like, how can Indiana Can they stack up against 136 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: physicality of an SEC Alabama team? Ohio State, Miami? I mean, 137 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 5: if Miami is indeed legit, you know it's a that's 138 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 5: a obviously finding reasons to watch all of those games. 139 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 5: And then Georgia Olemiss for the reasons I just said. 140 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 5: Jason Stewart was not a fan of the first round games? 141 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 5: What about these quarterfinal games? 142 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 6: Jason, Well, I'll take it a step further even, and 143 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 6: I guess so we'll give you my opinion of the 144 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 6: second round there. I take interest in these storylines, and 145 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 6: the intriguing storyline to me would be Ole Miss making 146 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 6: it as far as possible. I'm rooting for that team. 147 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 6: They they purchased my interest with the Lane Kiffin thing. 148 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 6: And then I do want to see Indiana. I know, 149 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 6: I think your opinion is that Indiana's got no shot. 150 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 6: I'd want Indiana in the championship game. So I'm pulling 151 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 6: for those two entities in this next round, and then 152 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 6: I'll pull for them in the next round if they advance. 153 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 6: But that kind of gives you the other two I could, 154 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 6: I could really care less. 155 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: I think that's that's the determining factor, is how do 156 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: you view Indiana? Great cal and I think Jason loves 157 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: the Fernando Mendoza story. Also, the Francisco Mendoza story. Isn't 158 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: that underrated part of Francis brother story? 159 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 5: That's his brother, right, the guy who came in to 160 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 5: take one snap during the Big Ten championship game. 161 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, sorry, that's a different guy. Yeah, the 162 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: inside joke. Do you moving on the baseball player, right, Francisco. 163 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 6: No. 164 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: Let's reveal that this is very interesting listeners too. 165 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 6: So you have a lot of tweets that go viral, Aaron, 166 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 6: so I know that you're a different class m Every 167 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 6: once in a while, one of my tweets gets in 168 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 6: the algorithm and it goes nuts. And I sent one 169 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 6: after Fernando Mendoza's Heisman Trophy's speech where he called out 170 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 6: his mother and thanked. I thought that was beautiful. The 171 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 6: only problem with my summary was that I called him 172 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 6: Francisco Mendoza. So there's always going to be that part 173 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 6: of Twitter, and by a part, I mean ninety nine 174 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 6: percent of it that's going to catch that and call 175 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 6: you racist and I'll do all that stuff. So it 176 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 6: was a very touching tweet that turned racist. 177 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say. I assumed Twitter was very 178 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: forgiving with that. With that mistake, Oh okay, John? 179 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: Was that theo where somebody tweeted to Jason that I 180 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: got to chuckle out of just that every white guy 181 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: would be named John. I thought was funny. But Jason 182 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: was given no mercy on that. Yet he loved the 183 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza story. And I think if you love the 184 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza story, you are intrigued by Indiana. 185 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: So real quick. 186 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: I don't want to I don't want to steal your 187 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: thunder in your take here. There was a line in 188 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: the email, the group email, that you believe Indiana has 189 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 4: a zero percent chance of winning the college football playoff. 190 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: I want to give you the floor. I know that's 191 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: not necessarily where we're going. I would just say, beat 192 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 4: Ohio State on a neutral one at Oregon. Those are 193 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: two of the final eight teams that they've already beaten. 194 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 4: And I'm not criticizing the take. I'm just actually genuinely 195 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: curious why you believe there's a zero percent chance if 196 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: that is in fact what you know. 197 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: It's it's on. 198 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: It's part of what leads up to what Jason was 199 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: talking about this Indiana moment. It's not going to top 200 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 2: winning the Heisman Trophy for Fernando Mendoza. Beating Ohio State 201 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: for Indiana was their super Bowl. Yeah, it was. It 202 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: was their national championship super bowl because because of what 203 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: it signified within that conference, Indiana was a top ranked 204 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: team all year long. They didn't have to prove anything 205 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: nationally to anybody. They were They had the number two 206 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: next to their name for I think about half the season. 207 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: Right after they beat again Oregon, they're the second ranked 208 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: team in the country Ohio State in the Big Ten. 209 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 2: In Ohio State's dominance in that world, and I'm not 210 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: saying they're dominating every year, but they are the marquee 211 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: program of the Big Ten. And for Indiana to beat 212 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: Ohio State on a neutral field, to overcome the goliath, 213 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: if you will. When they're playing that David role. That 214 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: is as high as it's going to get. And I 215 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: just don't think emotionally you can get up for these 216 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: three games. You may match up well with Indiana, you 217 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: may match up well with Texas Tech and have an 218 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: opportunity to beat Oregon. 219 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: Again. 220 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: I just think it's the high point of the Big 221 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: Ten Championship game. And I also think the escape of 222 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: college football will not allow a team to go undefeated 223 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: in a twelve team or sixteen team bracket for the 224 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: entire year. And they are the team that right now 225 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: has the has no blemish in the lost column. And 226 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: I think that those expectations are just too much to 227 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 2: bear in this sort of format. So while Indiana may 228 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: win the Rose Bowl, by the way, they may have 229 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: been better off playing in a Cotton Bowl or in 230 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: an Orange Bowl. The granddaddy of them all still carries cachet. 231 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: So now there's even more to that. Indiana hadn't been 232 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: to a Rose Bowl since what nineteen sixty seven or 233 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: whatever the case is, and now you have Alabama coming 234 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: to town. That's a lot to carry for a program. 235 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: And I just don't think that that program, Aaron, it 236 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: could have been Indiana. It could have been it could 237 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: have been Texas Tech, it could have you put what 238 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: Indiana has gone through, Vanderbilt could have put Vanderbilt in there. 239 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,239 Speaker 2: Let's say Vanderbilt ran through the SEC and beat Alabama 240 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: in the secchampionship game or Georgia. There's no way that 241 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to carry that through. There's just 242 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 2: too much, too much emotion. Heck, they suffered an injury 243 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: in the celebration of their Big Ten title game, right, 244 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: like the these are things that add up. I just 245 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: don't think in the stars you have the ability to 246 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: win a national championship for what has all gone right 247 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: for Indiana this year? 248 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: All right, I have three points. Okay on that one. 249 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: What you just described is actually Oregon last year, come 250 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: to the Big Ten. How are these West Coast schools 251 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 4: gonna match up? They have the Big Ohio State win 252 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: over Ohio State, then they win the Big Ten Championship game, 253 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 4: then they're flat in the Rose Bowl. 254 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: So there's a parallel there. 255 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 4: One hundred percent as far as Indiana specifically, and by 256 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 4: the way, I don't know that I think it's zero percent, 257 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: but I do sort of agree with you that if 258 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 4: I was tiering favorites, I think they'd have to be 259 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: probably number three behind Georgia Ohio State, a team they 260 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 4: lost to, maybe even number four behind Oregon. So well, 261 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: I actually sort of agree with you. My two points 262 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 4: are this, and these are both points in agreement with you. 263 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 4: One last night, Christmas night, I was here twelve to 264 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: four Pacific, three to seven Eastern. 265 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 3: Go home. 266 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 4: We get on a zoom with my sister. She's on 267 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 4: the East coast. How are you, how are the kids? 268 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah this net. While we were on the zoom, 269 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 4: I'm flipping channels because I have add and I can't 270 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: just focus on one thing. And the Big ten is 271 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: showing one of those like Big ten and sixty things, 272 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: which is just basically big games, every meaningful play, like 273 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 4: just in sixty seconds they had on the Indiana Ohio 274 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: State game, and so I was like, let me put 275 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 4: this on because I was on air during that game, 276 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: so I wasn't watching it super closely. I'm doing ten 277 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 4: different things whatever. You realize how many things had to 278 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 4: go right for Indiana to win that game. Besides the fact, 279 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 4: by the way, first ever Big ten Championship game appearance 280 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 4: for Indiana clearly meant more for them than Ohio State. 281 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: The game was in Indianapolis, Like, I don't know what 282 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 4: the discrepancy there was, but I'm guessing it was probably 283 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 4: eighty twenty and I know Ohio State travels great whatever, 284 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: So the only point I'm trying to make, And then 285 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 4: you watch the game and you're like, oh, Ohio State 286 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: easily could have won this game, Like if if they 287 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: had beaten Ohio State twenty one to three and it 288 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: wasn't close, then maybe I could see the thing where, Okay, 289 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 4: it's a big deal, but it's not that big of 290 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: a deal. But I think your point about the emotion 291 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: of that game is so so so on point of 292 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: just like it clear it met a lots Ohio State. 293 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: They were playing a win, but it meant a little 294 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: bit more to Indiana, and you could tell in the 295 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 4: celebration Fernanda Mendoza crying on the field whatever. And then 296 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 4: the last thing I was gonna say, and I'm going along, 297 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: so I'll be quick. I The Bama thing to me 298 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 4: is so fascinating because maybe it's my old school college 299 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: football brain, but the idea that Alabama, and I've seen 300 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: fourteen games of them at this point, they're not whatever. 301 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: The idea that Alabama is a seven and a half 302 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 4: point underdog to that team is like mind blowing to me, 303 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 4: Like I cannot wrap my head around. Alabama, with all 304 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 4: these five stars that have accumulated year over year over 305 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 4: year is a touchdown worse than Indiana. So that is 306 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 4: all just me just confirming what you're saying about the 307 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: fact that it's a great story in the moment, I know, 308 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 4: I spent about eight minutes setting up the point didn't okay, 309 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 4: But like, I don't think it's zero percent, But I 310 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 4: do think we're probably gonna look back on the Indiana 311 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: season and say that night in Indianapolis was the peak 312 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 4: and it didn't get better from there. 313 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: There's something that Kurt Signetti said on the stand or 314 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: the platform when they were given the Big Ten Trophy. Now, 315 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: I got to figure out a way to get these 316 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: guys like egos back down over the next three weeks 317 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: to get ready to play. So great that but it's 318 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: also one hundred percent the truth. Yeah, Like how in 319 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: the world do you do that? Like they they've climbed 320 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: the mountain, just like honestly, Ohio State did the week 321 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: before against Michigan. It was that game. They could not 322 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: lose that game. That was the game that they focused. 323 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: It's no excuse for Ohio State. He said they had 324 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: opportunities to win. They didn' They missed a field goal late. 325 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: Indiana made plays in that game, but it's the overall thing. 326 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: Indiana is the greatest story, to Jason's point, but this 327 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: story has had so many highs. I don't understand how 328 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: they can continue on this run. And so when now 329 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: when you're looking at a college football playoff and we're 330 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: trying to get people to get excited about this, Indiana 331 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: may be the path to do it, But I'm not 332 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: sure if they are, because I don't know if enough 333 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: people are like Jason jumping on the path of being 334 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: like man, I love the Cinderella team because it's very 335 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: tough to be Cinderella, being number one and unbeaten and 336 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: have the best player in college football by the Heisman 337 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: standards on your team. But do we want to see 338 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: a rematch of Indiana and Oregon in the semifinals? Do 339 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: we think Indiana and Texas Tech is better than an 340 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: Alabama Oregon national semifinal game, I don't think so. 341 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, as a diehard college football fan, I would be 342 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: more interested in Texas Tech Indiana, while also acknowledging that 343 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 4: ratings do matter. Maybe they're talked about a little too 344 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 4: much in the media, but they absolutely do matter, and 345 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 4: Oregon Alabama would be much more intriguing to a much 346 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: bigger audience than Frankly, either Indiana, Alabama, Indiana Oregon or 347 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 4: Indiana Texas Tech. Can I make one more point by 348 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: the way Jaysu brought up can I I want to 349 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 4: pivot off Indiana? 350 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: So do you have any any other Indiana things? Nope? 351 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: Has anyone realized we are? He mentioned the. 352 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: Old Miss story. We are watching the first ever co 353 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 4: parenting situation in college football. Ole Miss and LSU are 354 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 4: co parenting the offensive staff from Old Miss. Like I 355 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 4: was thinking about that the other day because I saw 356 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 4: a story of like Charlie Weiss is going back to 357 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 4: Old Miss to prepare for the for the whatever Bowl 358 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 4: that they're playing it against Georgia, and I'm like, this 359 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 4: is just co parenting. Like Lane Kiffin dropped him off 360 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 4: at the gas station, Pete Golding picked him up, said, 361 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 4: have a good weekend. 362 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 3: And enjoyed the holiday. 363 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 4: I'll drop him back off with the portal opens, Like 364 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: I was, just like, this is coperating. 365 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: I've got who on holidays? On the holiday, who got who? 366 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: That's a question. 367 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 4: Well, Pete Golden got him back because I think Lake 368 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: Kifflin got him for like a week of portal prep 369 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 4: and now he's back. 370 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: I actually also think that's kind of. 371 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: An interesting thing, like if Old Miss were to continue 372 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: to win, like I think it was, it was a 373 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 4: cool story that the staff stayed together, and I will 374 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 4: give credit to lane Kiffin for letting the offensive staff 375 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 4: go back, but I don't think most people acknowledge, like, 376 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 4: like part of the reason that Lane Kiffin was not 377 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: allowed to coach Old Miss was because if they go 378 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: on a run, you can't have him. And so it's 379 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 4: just like it's cool now if Ole Miss beats Georgia 380 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 4: and they're now playing on January tenth or whatever, and 381 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: the portal opens on January second. I don't know how 382 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 4: excited Lane Kiffin is about that. And I also don't 383 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: know that Old Miss feels like they have the full 384 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 4: attention of the those guys preparing for a semi final. 385 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 4: But the counter that is. I just think it's very 386 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 4: funny because it's basically Cope. 387 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: Let's who will be excited, Jason Stewart and probably a 388 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: lot of other college football fans because I think Ole 389 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 2: Miss is the story here, Like in this bracket of 390 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: they're the ones who are left. Can they put on 391 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: the Cinderella run, get revenge against Georgia, maybe have a 392 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: matchup against the defending national champion, all done without their coach. 393 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: I think that is the story of this bracket. 394 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 395 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: the nation. 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How are you? 415 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 416 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 7: I'm great, Happy Christmas, Merry Christmas. I hope everyone enjoyed 417 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 7: got what they wanted under the tree this year. I 418 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 7: didn't get any coal, which means I was on the 419 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 7: nice list. 420 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: Good work, good work. 421 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: We also got two games on Saturday of the NFL slate. 422 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: Texans and Chargers start things off, but I want to 423 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: go to the nightcap in title Town. Packers and Ravens. 424 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: Starting quarterbacks for that game not likely to have either 425 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and Jordan Love has already been ruled out 426 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: by Green Bay. What do those injuries do with this 427 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: matchup the Ravenson Pack. 428 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, so it looked like we were kind of at 429 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 7: four and a half ish last night when we thought 430 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 7: Jordan Love was gonna play. Now we're sitting at three 431 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 7: and a half now that we have official news that 432 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 7: Malik Willis will be the starter. I think, like if 433 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 7: you asked me the like, the drop off between Love 434 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 7: and Willis is probably not as severe as most starting 435 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 7: quarterbacks to backups in the NFL. I mean, we've seen 436 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 7: Malik Willis really really play well in relief appearances for 437 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 7: Jordan Love throughout the course of his career. Really last year, 438 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 7: I remember the Packers started off, you know, with those 439 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 7: two losses, right they lost to that they lost Jordan 440 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 7: Love and the opener to the Eagles, and then Willis 441 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 7: came in and played pretty. 442 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 3: Well, kind of steadied the ship. 443 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 7: And he can do a lot more with his legs 444 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 7: obviously than with his arm. But he's a player that's 445 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 7: been in that system for a while, so you didn't 446 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 7: see a huge decrease in the Packers win probability after that. 447 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 7: I would say Huntley on the other side, like that 448 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 7: is a pretty big drop off to me. He just 449 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 7: can't do as much as Lamar can. But you could 450 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 7: make the argument that Mr Jackson, who has been nursing 451 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 7: injuries all year, has not lived up to his full 452 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 7: potential in terms of his you know, betting line numbers. 453 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 7: So maybe not as big of a drop off in 454 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 7: prior years when it's one hundred percent Lamar to a 455 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 7: healthy Tyler Huntley. If it's only like fifty sixty percent 456 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 7: Lamar to a Tyler Huntley, maybe Baltimore does have a 457 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 7: chance to. 458 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: Keep this close. 459 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 7: But really, like, what, what's their motivation for this game 460 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 7: besides just putting some good stuff on tape. For some 461 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 7: of these veterans as they try to move on to 462 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 7: next year, They've been a comedy of errors this year. Turnovers, defense, 463 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 7: especially the defense just very lax of daysical, a lot 464 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 7: of lapses in the second are We saw that against 465 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 7: Drake May and the Patriots last week. So I would 466 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 7: lean Packers here because I just don't think Willis is 467 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 7: really that big of a drop off considering we're some 468 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 7: of the other backup quarterbacks rank in the NFL. 469 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 4: Jared, I want to kind of make a hard pivot 470 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 4: really quick. Then we'll get back to the NFL. But 471 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 4: Pete Thamil is reporting that Kyle Whittingham is officially has 472 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: officially agreed to be the next Michigan head coach. Know 473 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: you are a college football guru as well. I believe Jared, 474 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: forgive me if I'm wrong. Are you a Penn State guy? Yes, 475 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 4: so I'd ask either as a fan but also as 476 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 4: a betting guy. I mean, Utah is coming off a 477 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 4: ten to two season, Kyle Whittingham. It has been reported 478 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: basically all day, but it is now official. Would just 479 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 4: be curious for your perspective on what that means for 480 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 4: Michigan going forward. 481 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 7: I think it's a good hire. I think he's a 482 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 7: really good coach. I thought the situation leaving Utah, and 483 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 7: I'm not a Utah guy. I don't know much about 484 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 7: the back end of that program, but from what people 485 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 7: told me, it was kind of in the works for 486 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 7: a while that this was gonna be his last year. 487 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 7: But I did find it unique. Again, Timing is everything 488 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 7: in life, and I don't know Aeron if you're a 489 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 7: believer in coincidences, but I'm not. I've been through too 490 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 7: many weird stuff in my life to believe in coincidences anymore. 491 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 7: So Utah announces that groundbreaking private equity deal and then 492 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 7: Whittingham steps down the following day like literally the next day. 493 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 7: And again, maybe it was in the works for a 494 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 7: while and that was just weird timing, but I thought 495 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 7: that was curious. And also what I thought was curious, 496 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 7: Whittingham stepped down the day after Sharon Moore got fired, 497 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 7: like literally the day after, and now two weeks later 498 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 7: he's the head coach at Michigan. So again, I don't 499 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 7: want to say this was like a conspiracy theory, but 500 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 7: the timing worked out very nicely, I think for Michigan 501 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 7: because it could have been a disaster, like if they 502 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 7: didn't go to Kyle Whittingham here, what was the option, 503 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 7: was it, Jeff Brohm? I mean, it certainly didn't look 504 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 7: like Dillingham or Debor were interested in the job. So 505 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 7: I thought it worked out serendipitously for Michigan because Whittingham 506 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 7: didn't seem like he wanted to leave coaching, and then 507 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 7: this opportunity opens up and he's done it really good. 508 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 7: I mean, he's had an illustrious career, he's done a 509 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 7: really good job at Utah, making them a perennial power. 510 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 7: I think it's a good fit and they needed to 511 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 7: do something fast because you know, as well as anyone 512 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 7: Aaron Once that recruiting cycle starts to spin off, the 513 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 7: rails and kids start to bail and that situation goes south, 514 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 7: it's really hard to get it back on even though 515 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 7: Michigan's got a ton of money. I thought they needed 516 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 7: to put their foot down and get a good man 517 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 7: in charge to try to get things back on track. 518 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 2: Jumping back to the NFL with Jared Smith, He's erin Torres. 519 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 2: I'm Dan Beyer. It is Fox Sports Radio. Looking at 520 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: the rest of the slate. In Week seventeen, the game 521 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: of the week, one of the games of the week 522 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: may not have a lot at stake for the Eagles 523 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: or Bills because it's an AFC NFC matchup, game is 524 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: in Buffalo, weather can always be a factor. I'm surprised 525 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: the Bills are only a one and a half point favorite. 526 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: How do you look at that matchup between the Eagles 527 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: and Bills. 528 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 7: Nobody really has much to play for in terms of 529 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 7: the postseason, and I think it's a different vibe when 530 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 7: right like Dan, teams that are out of the postseason picture, 531 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 7: that are playing these meaningless games in Week seventeen and 532 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 7: Week eighteen, I think they give a different level of 533 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 7: effort knowing it's their last game or it's their last 534 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 7: opportunity to put something on tape, Whereas the vibe for 535 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 7: a playoff team two playoff teams that really have no 536 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 7: upward mobility in the standings. Right in the NFC, the 537 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 7: number one seed is going to be whoever wins that 538 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 7: NFC West Chicago beat Philly, so I just don't see 539 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 7: them jumping the Eagles jumping the Bears for that number 540 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 7: two seed. And then in the NFC South that's the four, 541 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 7: so Philly's pretty much locked into the three. On the 542 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 7: other side, do you really see the Jets beating the 543 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 7: Patriots this week or the Dolphins beating the Patriots next week? 544 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 7: Like New England's gonna win that division, Buffalo is gonna 545 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 7: be in the wildcard. I don't know if they can 546 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 7: move up or down in the wildcard standings. I think 547 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 7: five feels like the right spot for them. Maybe six 548 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 7: because that AFC West loser between the Chargers and the 549 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 7: Broncos might sneak into that five spot. But it does 550 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 7: feel like both of these teams have their standings completely set. 551 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 7: So why are you putting anything on tape? Why are 552 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 7: you over extending any of your key skill guys in 553 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 7: a game that really doesn't mean a whole lot in 554 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 7: the standing. So I bet under in this game, I 555 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 7: bet under forty four. I think Josh Allen rushing yards 556 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 7: under makes sense, like he doesn't extend himself with his 557 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 7: legs and games that aren't prime time meaningful, like everything 558 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 7: on the line, and he's got the foot injury. So 559 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 7: like that was kind of my vibe in the game. Dan, 560 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 7: I agree. I think you know, the Eagles to me 561 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 7: are a team that definitely deserves a lot of love 562 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 7: the market, but they're still going through some issues with 563 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 7: their offense. And I heard Scott Lofler, a cub QB coach, 564 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 7: is starting to insert himself into the conversation, So who 565 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 7: knows what that dynamic is gonna look like. I would 566 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 7: not be surprised if this was a run, run, run, 567 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 7: very vanilla game plan for both teams. 568 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: Really quickly, I want to sort of go back to 569 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 4: Dan's first question here. You know, we're at the point 570 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: of the season where you know, Josh Johnson and Malik 571 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: Willis and a lot of you know, back up to 572 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 4: third string to four string quarterbacks are now playing, and 573 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 4: I was just curious as a better Where is the 574 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 4: line of I still think there's value here versus I 575 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 4: don't care what. 576 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: The value is. 577 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 4: I'm not betting my hard earned money on Josh Johnson, 578 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 4: Like how often are you? Just like I don't care 579 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 4: if I think there's value here, I can't possibly bet 580 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 4: on that quarterback that I had never heard of until 581 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 4: two days ago. 582 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 7: Well, I think that's the key. You've got to, you know, 583 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 7: do the research. I think in that particular situation, this 584 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 7: is where the preseason actually comes into a huge becomes 585 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 7: a huge factor. For example, Max Brosmer, I watched them 586 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 7: in the preseason, Like I watched a lot of these 587 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 7: third string and four string quarterbacks in the preseason. And 588 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 7: what I do then in the preseason is I create 589 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 7: a number, just like for example, with Lamar to Tyler Huntley, 590 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 7: it's like an eight point drop. With Mahomes de Minshew, 591 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 7: it's like an eight point drop, Like that's a big 592 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 7: drop from a starter to a backup. With a guy 593 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 7: like JJ McCarthy to Max Brosmer, it's maybe only like 594 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 7: a three or four point drop. So once you have 595 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 7: that number and you do your research and you have 596 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 7: some kind of baseline to move a spread a certain 597 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 7: direction based off of who's playing quarterback, which, for those unaware, 598 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 7: the quarterback position has the greatest impact on the point spread. 599 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 7: It's usually a touchdown somewhere in that range, give or 600 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 7: take a few points to either side. But once you 601 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 7: have your number, well, then you can react to what 602 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 7: the sportsbook did so based off of what the move was. 603 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 7: From Mariota to Josh Johnson. All Right, the sportsbook move 604 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 7: the line this many points, but I make the number this, 605 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 7: and then you don't even have to worry about whether 606 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 7: or not you like this quarterback or you watch him 607 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 7: where you think he's good. Like, you have your number, 608 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 7: You've done your work, and then you just let the 609 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 7: numbers do the talking. 610 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: He's our Fox Sports Radio betting adolest Jared Smith. Hear 611 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: him Saturday mornings nine to noon Eastern Time with Rich 612 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: Hornberger and Brian Know. You can listen live on any 613 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: of our Fox Sports Radio affiliates or on the iHeartRadio 614 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: app all presented by Bett MGM. Jared, thanks so much 615 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: for your time. Can we to talk to you again? 616 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: Man? 617 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 7: I appreciate it. Happy to you everyone. 618 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 619 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: the Nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 620 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 621 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: Have you heard about trainer games? Add this to your 622 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: binge list. Ten athletes go ahead to head for the 623 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: chance to win an iFIT trainer contract with two hundred 624 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars streaming on Prime Video starting January eighth. 625 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Aaron Torres, I'm Dan Byer. 626 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna be with you for another two hours as well. 627 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: We are in for Covino and Rich today here on 628 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 2: fs OUR. Isaac Lowincroniz here, Jason Stewart's here, as is 629 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: Iowa Sam. Last night in the NBA five games taking place, 630 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: one team embarrassed on their home court. That is, if 631 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: you ask their head coach. That head coach would be 632 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: Lakers headman JJ Reddick. 633 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 8: The two words of the day, we're effort and execution. 634 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 8: And you know, I feel like when we've done both 635 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 8: of those things at a high level, we've been a 636 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 8: good basketball team, and we haven't. We're a terrible basketball team. 637 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 8: And tonight we were a terrible basketball team. And that 638 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 8: started legitimately right away because we don't care enough right now, 639 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 8: and that's that's the part that bothers you a lot. 640 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 8: We don't care enough to like do the things that 641 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 8: are necessary. We don't care enough to be a professional. 642 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 3: You know. 643 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 8: We had it, We had it. This is this is 644 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 8: I always say this about you know, culture, I always 645 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 8: say this about a team being a you know, a 646 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 8: good team, being a functioning organism, organism. Can it can 647 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 8: change like that? We don't have it right now. Again, 648 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 8: it goes back to what I said the other night. 649 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 8: It's it's a matter of making the choice. And too 650 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 8: often we have guys that don't want to make that choice. 651 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 8: And it's pretty consistent who those guys are. And so 652 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 8: Saturday practice, I told the guys it's going to be uncomfortable. 653 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 8: The meeting is going to be uncomfortable. I'm not doing 654 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 8: another fifty three games like this. 655 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: Strong words from JJ Reddick, who I think's got a 656 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: little bit more ability to be empowered considering what's going 657 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: on with the Lakers over the last six months or so, 658 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: even with ownership changing hands, Lebron James's future it wasn't 659 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: pointed at Austin Reeves because he left with an injury, 660 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: but it sure seems like it was pointed at Lebron 661 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: James and JJ Redick with some strong comments for if 662 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: it is Lebron and the rest of his Laker teammates. 663 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, the only thing that really 664 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 4: stands out to me is that I do think that 665 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 4: basically this is just a metaphor for the bigger like 666 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: Lebron situation with the Lakers of you go back to 667 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 4: the day he resigned, and it was very clear that 668 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 4: the Lakers were kind of hoping that he wouldn't resign, 669 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 4: but you couldn't blame him, and then he immediately starts 670 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: doing the whole Yeah. Remember Rich Paul released a statement, Boy, 671 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: I sure hope we can build a championship team to 672 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: capitalize on Lebron's window, and it's like, Lebron, it's over, 673 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 4: your time, is done, whatever. And I think what Lebron 674 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 4: is doing is just basically what he has done with 675 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 4: every coach everywhere he's ever been. He just doesn't have 676 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 4: the actual leverage to pull off what he has pulled 677 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 4: off in the past, and for the first time maybe 678 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 4: in his career at least danding back to Eric Spolster 679 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 4: in Miami, the coach actually has the leverage over him, 680 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 4: not the other way around. 681 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 2: There does seem to be a little bit more weight 682 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: with these words from JJ Reddick than maybe other coaches 683 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: who have tried to say as much. But I just 684 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: you know, Ruya Chimura didn't score yesterday, and I don't 685 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: think that JJ Redick would take four minutes of. 686 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: Distressing ripping Uri subconsciously Christmas Day. 687 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: And this is also in advance of Lebron earlier in 688 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: the week being asked about Christmas Day and playing on 689 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: Christmas Day and saying that he rather would have been 690 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: home with his family. Now that may be true, I 691 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: think we all would love to you probably would have 692 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: loved you instead of being here twelve to four yesterday, 693 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: loved to have been here for you know, instead of 694 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 2: been with your family, instead of being here. But the 695 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: point is is that Lebron has played on Christmas Day 696 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: twenty times. As it was pointed out throughout the broadcast, 697 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: Lebron doesn't say something without knowing exactly what he really 698 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: is trying to say. So when you have that sort 699 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: of effort come out to a team that you're battling 700 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: and is you're comparable with in the Western Conference, JJ 701 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: Reddick feels in bolden to do it, and again he 702 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: didn't do it for ruy Hachamura. He wasn't doing it 703 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: for Austin Reeves. So unless it was for Luka Doncic, 704 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: I don't know who else he could have been for 705 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: the Lakers outside of Lebron now. 706 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 4: And I think there was another part that I don't 707 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 4: know if it was in the audio, but he said 708 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 4: something about we had it in past tense, as in 709 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 4: like basically like this team was operating at a really 710 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 4: high level and we lost it. And that was another 711 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 4: insinuation with Lebron that seemed to be pretty obvious, is 712 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 4: the team was clearly playing at a really really high 713 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 4: level early in the year prior to him, prior to 714 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 4: him leaving. 715 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: The in factor, the in fact they had the in factor. 716 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: He is erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer. It is a 717 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. The big news of the day, Kyle 718 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 2: Whittingham getting the five year deal. You heard Isaac Loewing 719 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: Grante as Michigan has found its man, a name that 720 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 2: did not pop up in any of the other conversations 721 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: leading up to it. I mean, this has really been 722 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 2: a twenty four to forty eight hour sort of thing, right, 723 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 2: I mean, there wasn't. I don't remember Kyle Whittingham being 724 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: now being a possible candidate when Charon Moore's situation went 725 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: down a couple of weeks ago. 726 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 4: No, And I'll be quick here, but I even remember 727 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 4: when Kenny Dillingham was the hot name. I said, if 728 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 4: your Arizona State and Kyle Whittingham clearly wants to keep coaching, 729 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 4: that has to be the name that you call. And 730 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 4: so talk about how fast it changed Kyle Whittingham, or 731 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 4: excuse me, Kenny Dillingham decides that he's staying at Arizona State, 732 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 4: and now Kyle Whittingham gets the job that universally, I 733 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 4: think obviously we all agree is better. 734 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: I would also say, you don't have to overpay. Right, 735 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 2: there's there's Kyle Whittingham wants back in What better opportunity 736 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: and not have to wait a year for a coach 737 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: of that. 738 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 7: And he's most caliber, to your point you brought up. 739 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: Earlier, very motivated, and for Michigan, this is about as 740 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: good as you could have hoped for considering what's transpired. 741 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: Ohio State and Michigan played on November twenty ninth, so 742 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: it hasn't even been a month and this is where 743 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: we are with the Michigan football program. 744 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 4: Well, and that speaks to why any it's crazy. We 745 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 4: have two more hours to discuss. 746 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 3: He is Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. 747 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in for Cavino and Rich It's all coming 748 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: up next year on this day after Christmas here on 749 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio