Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your
Speaker 1: war room for incenter news and craft analysis from deep
Speaker 1: within the conbines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frisco,
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Tyler and now your host, Kyle Yeomans. Today
Speaker 1: is Wednesday, March first, twenty twenty three, as we are
Speaker 1: live from Indianapolis, Indiana and the twenty twenty three NFL Combine.
Speaker 1: Welcome into the Draft Show presented by Miller Lite, the
Speaker 1: official beer of the Dallas Cowboys. We are pleased to
Speaker 1: be joined by the Great Bucky Brooks. How's it going
Speaker 1: back on the show. Yeah, we've got Aisha Morrison. I'm
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's our trio today, the first show of a
Speaker 1: couple that we're gonna have here at the Combine on
Speaker 1: Radio Row this week. We'll have Dame Bruegler in the
Speaker 1: action later this week as well. But Bucky, welcome back.
Speaker 1: It's been probably a year, right, Yeah, it's been it's
Speaker 1: been I think it's been a year even the year
Speaker 1: since Uh I've had a chance to come home with
Speaker 1: you guys. But what's been going on? That's what I say,
Speaker 1: old thing. I mean, you know, at this time of
Speaker 1: year is this lying season. Everyone's lying about who they
Speaker 1: like they don't like. Uh, we're kind of filling in
Speaker 1: things and we're having soap operas with mock drafts and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, so we can't create a conversation. So
Speaker 1: you know what it is? So lying season? Has anybody
Speaker 1: lied to you yet? There's no way? Right, Oh, everybody's
Speaker 1: lying there, Like once you get anyway, he's lying about
Speaker 1: who they really liked to throwing out names out there
Speaker 1: so you can run with them and put them out
Speaker 1: there and all kinds of stuff. And so if it's
Speaker 1: not the teams, then it's the agents. There's not the agents,
Speaker 1: it's the players themselves, and so you know what it
Speaker 1: is like, that's that's that's the part of the year. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: welcome the lying season to me. Yeah, you gotta take
Speaker 1: everything with the grain is salt. You gotta take everything
Speaker 1: with you gotta be confident in your own mindset. You
Speaker 1: gotta be confident with all of that. And you have
Speaker 1: been as we've seen on the draft shows already. We've
Speaker 1: already seen that a couple different times. But we're excited
Speaker 1: to be here. This is my fourth combine, this is
Speaker 1: your Oh you know, going all the way back, your
Speaker 1: first was the playing career, right, so so since two
Speaker 1: thousand would now so it's like twenty two, twenty three
Speaker 1: plus one. Yeah, so like twenty three twenty four. They
Speaker 1: were working on a long time, and this is my
Speaker 1: first one. This is my Yeah, we're getting started. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see the workhouse tomorrow, ye kind of get it going.
Speaker 1: That'll be your first taste of what it is. And look,
Speaker 1: it's it's a great event. Is For the longest time,
Speaker 1: it was always like the football Convention. It's the only
Speaker 1: time that everyone has a chance to see everybody, until
Speaker 1: coaches decided that they didn't want to bring their coaching staffs.
Speaker 1: But it was a great opportunity to not only talk
Speaker 1: about like these players or whatever, but it was a
Speaker 1: chance to talk about trends in the league, how you
Speaker 1: build your team, what do you like, schematics, all this
Speaker 1: other stuff. We're robbed of some of that because people
Speaker 1: are staying at home. But it's still a really, really
Speaker 1: great affair because you get a chance to see so
Speaker 1: many guys that you don't see doing. Of course in
Speaker 1: the regular season. Somebody yesterday really point put it out
Speaker 1: in the open for me that that kind of put
Speaker 1: it into perspective. But this is the only time that
Speaker 1: the NFL comes together, like you said, in one spot,
Speaker 1: and nobody's trying to win, nobody, nobody's trying to beat
Speaker 1: the other at something at either even the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Pro Bowl is probably the closest thing to this.
Speaker 1: But but you don't get you don't get all the teams.
Speaker 1: You don't get you don't get the executives, scouts and
Speaker 1: the coaches together in one city. And I do like
Speaker 1: That's why I'm a little disappointed that so many teams
Speaker 1: decided to leave their coaches behind, because it was that
Speaker 1: one time that you can see everybody and connect and
Speaker 1: all those other things, and you don't get a chance
Speaker 1: to do it because once we leave from here, you
Speaker 1: don't see those guys anymore. Maybe you see a handful
Speaker 1: of guys at a Pro day, you see him doing
Speaker 1: a game, you know, but you won't see everybody. And
Speaker 1: so hopefully, man, we get everybody, shoot everybody back, get
Speaker 1: everybody back. Cowboys did bring their coaching staff, they did
Speaker 1: bring their executive department. So the front office is here,
Speaker 1: the scouts are here, the coaches are here. We will
Speaker 1: talk to coach McCarthy today, So we won't have that
Speaker 1: information on this episode, but we'll talk about it on
Speaker 1: the second episode that we have coming out in from
Speaker 1: Radio row from Indianapolis. Now, it is your first combine,
Speaker 1: it is, so what what's your thoughts so far? How?
Speaker 1: How what have you taken out of the first couple
Speaker 1: days of being here, first couple of days of being here.
Speaker 1: I think I describe it yesterday as like a high
Speaker 1: school reunions. Everybody, everybody coming and you meeting everyone. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting to see everyone in their own niche
Speaker 1: Like our photographers have their own group of people they
Speaker 1: meet up with and they're they're talking mess about, you know,
Speaker 1: what they're doing. And then I meet some of your
Speaker 1: reporter friends. And then it's just an interesting dynamics that
Speaker 1: I've gained so much respect for everyone and every piece
Speaker 1: that goes into what we do by being here. I
Speaker 1: think I've already done that, but just kind of hearing
Speaker 1: the intricacies of like I have to be here at
Speaker 1: this time, I got to set up at this time.
Speaker 1: A yeah, and we're just you know, to me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm just taking notes, getting ready. Sure, but they don't
Speaker 1: want to do what you do in vice versa, And
Speaker 1: I think that's so awesome, like that everyone has their
Speaker 1: individuals thing here and we can kind of see it
Speaker 1: come together here me personally going to see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the best part of this is what happens
Speaker 1: late at night, like when you really have the casual conversations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's that's the part of it. Like people will
Speaker 1: talk about it being your little spring breakers because everyone's
Speaker 1: at the bar or whatever, but really in the cut
Speaker 1: sometimes you have some great conversations about team building, who
Speaker 1: you like, evaluations, what do you look for? What have
Speaker 1: you learned from this mistake or that mistake when it
Speaker 1: came to scouting and evaluating. So to me, I feel
Speaker 1: like I come away from the combine not necessarily learning
Speaker 1: about this class, but continue to learn about how to evaluate,
Speaker 1: how to put together a team, what it looks like,
Speaker 1: what it's going to look like in the future, as
Speaker 1: you continue to be the best version of yourself when
Speaker 1: it comes to doing what we do on this side.
Speaker 1: Now you've done a little bit of everything because you played,
Speaker 1: You've been on the coaching side of things, the scouting
Speaker 1: side of things. You've also been on the media side
Speaker 1: of things, doing a ton of great work with the
Speaker 1: NFL Network. What is your favorite to do? I mean,
Speaker 1: other than playing? I mean that's probably the easy answer.
Speaker 1: You know, like it. It's funny because there's so many
Speaker 1: different things to football that you enjoy. There's the Exino
Speaker 1: nerd in me that loves like watching tactics and schemes
Speaker 1: and the latest trends and who's doing what. And man,
Speaker 1: look at how the Eagles were able to help Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts go from being a second round pick to now
Speaker 1: he may be a top five quarterback based on how
Speaker 1: they utilized him, how you continue to improve, but how
Speaker 1: they tweaked the game and you know those things. And
Speaker 1: then you look at a guy like Pat Mahomes and
Speaker 1: how can you remove an All Pro player from Pat Mahomes?
Speaker 1: And yet this team goes and wins the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: What did I miss on him watching him at Texas Tech?
Speaker 1: That I didn't know he had that singular power to
Speaker 1: do those things. The evaluation part is always cool, like
Speaker 1: looking studying projecting, seeing what those projections turn into two, three,
Speaker 1: four years down the line. All that stuff is far
Speaker 1: I just think like just being associated with the game
Speaker 1: itself is the fun part in any capacity, And when
Speaker 1: you're like multidimensional, like we all are, like different things
Speaker 1: fascinate you at different times in the year. And so
Speaker 1: right now I'm just fascinated about, Hey, how do you
Speaker 1: put together the team, the best team that you can
Speaker 1: put for it to get ready to see if you
Speaker 1: can compete for a team of a championship in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, go for it. Oh, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I'm actually fascinated listening to the players, like getting to
Speaker 1: put what I think about them or what I've studied
Speaker 1: about them. Just actually hearing how they speak, how they project,
Speaker 1: who's had influence on them and stuff like that. That
Speaker 1: to me is so valuable really starting to understand these
Speaker 1: guys a little bit more because the character is important, right,
Speaker 1: character part about the players is important. So we're starting
Speaker 1: to i don't know, just hearing them and even getting
Speaker 1: the opportunity to interview them, ask them questions and be here.
Speaker 1: It means something to meet Also some of these players
Speaker 1: that I'm interested in them. Well, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that part is is huge because it's one thing to
Speaker 1: blindly lick a tape without knowing the person. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and so you're looking at the tape and you see
Speaker 1: one thing, but then when you hear them talk or
Speaker 1: you find out more about their background, their character, some
Speaker 1: issues that it may or may not have had, then
Speaker 1: you get a better feel for Okay, well, how do
Speaker 1: we now put the pieces of the puzzle together, and
Speaker 1: what's different for us? What's different for me? Like it
Speaker 1: NFL Network, Like you're trying to think about all thirty
Speaker 1: two teams. You guys are tied directly with the team
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. No, no, Now you have a better
Speaker 1: understanding of the culture in the locker room. Yes, you
Speaker 1: have an understanding of Okay, well, how would this guy
Speaker 1: fit in that locker room? Which is harder when you're
Speaker 1: having the broad perspective of what what's Dallas really like
Speaker 1: compared to what's Philly like? Was Washington and all those
Speaker 1: other teams, and so it's just a very different deal.
Speaker 1: And also the way you great players is differently working
Speaker 1: for a team as opposed to doing the broad scope,
Speaker 1: because when you work for a team, you have certain
Speaker 1: parameters and standards that you're looking for based on what
Speaker 1: the team wants and a player. When you're working at
Speaker 1: a higher level or at a national level. Now you
Speaker 1: just kind of grating the player for what he is,
Speaker 1: and sometimes that differs from he if he goes to
Speaker 1: this team, he'll play this way. If he goes to
Speaker 1: that team, he'll play a different one. And he's gonna
Speaker 1: fit in this scheme? Is he not gonna fit in
Speaker 1: this scheme? How's he going to perform? We were literally
Speaker 1: just talking about that just three four four three defense
Speaker 1: and how some guys may not look like they can
Speaker 1: play there. I mean, dan Quinn showed this. He showed
Speaker 1: like there's so many guys on the Cowboys defense in
Speaker 1: particular that before being in this scheme, we didn't know
Speaker 1: what they were and we didn't know how they were
Speaker 1: going to project to what their ceiling was. But that
Speaker 1: just talks to they speaks to how schemes, specific things
Speaker 1: can make a difference in this league. Yeah. Look, the
Speaker 1: one thing that we can never project is how coaching
Speaker 1: and schematics, like a great coach, a creative mind, a
Speaker 1: brilliant teacher can bring out stuff in players that we
Speaker 1: just don't know. You just can't you can't predict the
Speaker 1: kind of scheme that they play in and how they
Speaker 1: utilize the role that they play. Those things matter, and
Speaker 1: so the hard part is trying to see what a
Speaker 1: player did in college and trying to stretch it out
Speaker 1: and project what it will look like at the next
Speaker 1: level without knowing how the team has taken them and
Speaker 1: visions him play. Yeah, and the whole overarching thought of
Speaker 1: the player, like you talked about with these interviews, it
Speaker 1: all kind of becomes clear this week because not only
Speaker 1: are we getting the chance to talk to the players,
Speaker 1: and we're having these media sessions and they're hitting the
Speaker 1: podium and we're learning about some of the things that
Speaker 1: they've talked about, some of the things that they feel
Speaker 1: like are important to them. These teams are doing the
Speaker 1: same exact thing. They're putting them on the whiteboard. We
Speaker 1: heard d Over shown earlier talking about the Texas linebacker
Speaker 1: talking about how teams have put him on the board
Speaker 1: and allowed him to take a dry race marker and
Speaker 1: show exactly what he's seen on film and how he
Speaker 1: can pick certain things up. These teams are not only
Speaker 1: having those interviews behind closed doors, but they're also having
Speaker 1: the medical checks. That's a huge part of this whole
Speaker 1: process is having that one two punch of the interviews
Speaker 1: and the medical checks to kind of go back and forth.
Speaker 1: Have you seen enough from this class to to really
Speaker 1: feel like it compares to something that there's some other
Speaker 1: class that you've seen in the past based off of
Speaker 1: all of those overarching elements. You know, it's it's hard
Speaker 1: to compare classes, but what you can assesses the draft
Speaker 1: is I would say not as top heavy as it
Speaker 1: bitted the pass, but you got a lot of mid
Speaker 1: level talent meeting. It is really deep in terms of
Speaker 1: second or third route players. You get starters in those routes,
Speaker 1: first routers. I mean, what we all are going to
Speaker 1: have to cut a tiper xpects in this class. I
Speaker 1: think they're probably like fifteen to eighteen true first round talents, Okay,
Speaker 1: and so when you have eighteen first round talents, that
Speaker 1: means someone's going to take a play in the first
Speaker 1: round who's not necessarily your traditional blue chip player, but
Speaker 1: when you take them in the first round, fans have
Speaker 1: expectations that they're gonna play a certain way. The team
Speaker 1: will even find themselves having certain expectations that they're going
Speaker 1: to play at a higher level because they were taken
Speaker 1: in the first round, when that might not be what's
Speaker 1: really in them, and so we have to kind of
Speaker 1: understand that, and maybe we don't get upset when our
Speaker 1: favorite team takes a cornerback and you're like, well, why
Speaker 1: do we take a cornerback when we need an offensive
Speaker 1: tackle or we need a pass rusher in those things,
Speaker 1: and so we just kind of have to understand the
Speaker 1: strength lies and tied d classes solid and cornerback classes solid.
Speaker 1: There's a really group of running backs in the mid
Speaker 1: levels that can always play, and you know, and then
Speaker 1: you got some some wildcards like the quarterback class. Who
Speaker 1: knows what this quarterback class is? And good thing cowboys
Speaker 1: are not thankful quarterback because who knows what this class is?
Speaker 1: That here you ask, I know, but I agree with
Speaker 1: you by that way. But but it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a it's a weird it's a weird deal when it
Speaker 1: comes to that, like not as many offensive tackles that
Speaker 1: you would like because it's not as deep in that class,
Speaker 1: and so it's going to change how you evaluate it. Um.
Speaker 1: What teams to do is the draft the parts that
Speaker 1: are like plentiful. What you do is your circle back
Speaker 1: to that you're going get something from a shallow pool
Speaker 1: early and come back late and maybe take a chance
Speaker 1: on a position that has a deeper pool. You mentioned quarterback. Um,
Speaker 1: do you do either one of you feel like there
Speaker 1: is a thing. I feel like there's a need for quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the NFC specifically, like there's
Speaker 1: so many teams that really need to be building towards
Speaker 1: having a quarterback. And we talked about this class when
Speaker 1: you talk about how many first round draft picks that
Speaker 1: you really feel like there are, could you do think
Speaker 1: we could see people necessarily reach, but definitely they don't reach.
Speaker 1: They reached people reach for I mean, I really feel
Speaker 1: like in this first round, So to your point, how
Speaker 1: we might see some guys like we don't think that
Speaker 1: our first round draft picks. I feel like some of
Speaker 1: the gentlemen that maybe we think our second round draft
Speaker 1: picks may be picked up earlier in the in the
Speaker 1: in the rounds because there's not that many of them
Speaker 1: in certain places like you were talking about, No, it's
Speaker 1: funny and there's a level of desperation. So the one
Speaker 1: thing that we know when it comes to the quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: the golden era quarterback play Nail Hisskey Younger and it's
Speaker 1: really heavy in the AFC. Yes, to win a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl in the AFC, you better have a dude at quarterback.
Speaker 1: Because to win in the AFC you have to deal
Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson will put an asterick buy because we don't know
Speaker 1: if you'll continue to be in Baltimore. Sure you have
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence who is coming He's coming around, you know.
Speaker 1: And so like we're already talking about six or seven
Speaker 1: quarter right there the NFC. Aaron Rodgers is coming down,
Speaker 1: but it's really wide open. Like now you have to
Speaker 1: talk about Jalen Hurst, which is crazy, but a year
Speaker 1: ago no one believed this. But Jalen Hurst now has
Speaker 1: to be in consideration as a top five quarter So
Speaker 1: now you talk about what ain't Jalen Hurst is now
Speaker 1: the standard bearer in the NFC, and Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 1: coming back to the pack. You have Kirk Cousins and
Speaker 1: Jerry Golf and those guys, but how good are those
Speaker 1: And so you now have a situation where everyone in
Speaker 1: the NFC has to look at their quarterback and say,
Speaker 1: is he good enough to not only give me to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But if we have to square off
Speaker 1: against one of those teams in the AFC that has
Speaker 1: one of those guys, Kenny win a one game scenario,
Speaker 1: all right, Bucky? Based off of that, do you think
Speaker 1: Dak falls into that category? I think so. I think
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that we can't do, and
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate for players when a player has an injury,
Speaker 1: we never give them or cut them slack. Okay, whatever
Speaker 1: happened with Dak Stumb, it certainly had to have an
Speaker 1: impact on the way that he threw the ball because
Speaker 1: he normally doesn't throw turnover. He doesn't have turnovers like that,
Speaker 1: and sometimes it can snowball and those things. The other
Speaker 1: thing that I think maybe you'll have to assess when
Speaker 1: you're Mike McCarthy and you're thinking about this offense as
Speaker 1: he takes over, do I have enough weaperry on the outside,
Speaker 1: and so you remove Amari Cooper for whatever reason. So
Speaker 1: now you go from having what I thought was one
Speaker 1: A and one B and Cede Lamb and Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: to then you have Cde Lamb and in a significant
Speaker 1: drop off before you have the next wide receiver and
Speaker 1: what you're seeing in this league, it's moving away from
Speaker 1: like the running back being the feature player, but more
Speaker 1: you better have two wide receivers that can get it done.
Speaker 1: Because in the games, when you get down the stretch,
Speaker 1: someone has to come over and someone has to have
Speaker 1: the ability to have one of those big games. And
Speaker 1: right now the Cowboys need more around Dack than just that.
Speaker 1: And I know that Dad got forty million dollars, but
Speaker 1: he's still needs pass catches to be able to kind
Speaker 1: of do what he does. And to add on to that,
Speaker 1: it's it's also too do you have do you have playmakers?
Speaker 1: But if you don't have the playmakers, are you doing
Speaker 1: enough with the guys that you have? Are you getting
Speaker 1: the most out of them? Are you utilizing them in
Speaker 1: ways that are conducive to how well they play or
Speaker 1: or what even is working well? In the league right
Speaker 1: now we see a lot of yak guys with yak
Speaker 1: ability really making a difference at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 1: So also too, I just wanted to add on to, like,
Speaker 1: are you getting the most out of even what you
Speaker 1: have presently there? You know, I mean, I think I
Speaker 1: think that's a big thing, and I think that's probably
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why Mike McCarthy is now kind
Speaker 1: of taking the rains over as the play caller. Now,
Speaker 1: I would say, based on his experience in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: some of the yak ability that you talk about, it
Speaker 1: may change the profile of the wide receiver that you
Speaker 1: look for in Green Bay when he was there the
Speaker 1: way that it has always been passed down from Ron
Speaker 1: Wolf down. You wide receivers need to have punt return ability,
Speaker 1: and the reason why they wanted guys who have punt
Speaker 1: return experiences because those guys have natural running skills, they're tough,
Speaker 1: they are able to break tackles in space. You can
Speaker 1: get them the ball on catching round concepts, and they
Speaker 1: can turn short games into big plays. Ceedee Lamb has
Speaker 1: punt return a building. Do the rest of the guys
Speaker 1: in the wide receiver corps have punt return to building?
Speaker 1: And if they don't, you need to add some guys
Speaker 1: who have that. So now Dak's efficiency can go up
Speaker 1: because rather than asking him to throw the ball farther down,
Speaker 1: the field is shorter, but you're getting more bang for you.
Speaker 1: But because those guys can break tackles and make things happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're what you're saying, is Bucky that might have
Speaker 1: a chance in this The only the only thing about
Speaker 1: that he's so good as an internity sometimes because some
Speaker 1: offensive coaches will use the return game as another offensive play,
Speaker 1: and when you're an All Pro player like he is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a difference, Baker. That's it. They certainly can put
Speaker 1: a package in where he comes in the game and
Speaker 1: he gets the ball on screens in those things. He
Speaker 1: has to be a part of it, though. He's too
Speaker 1: dangerous with the ball in his hands to let him
Speaker 1: just stand on the sideline the entire game. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: completely agree, and he's even talked about that as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, he said, I want to play on offense.
Speaker 1: He said that a couple weeks ago in an interview
Speaker 1: that he loves the return specialist gig, but for the
Speaker 1: most part, he wants to make an impact on offense.
Speaker 1: And he could probably find a way to make an
Speaker 1: impact on offense, especially if they can use some of
Speaker 1: the stuff Bucky's talking about here. But let's take our
Speaker 1: first break. When we come back, we're gonna have some
Speaker 1: Twitter on the twenty. We're gonna answer your fan questions
Speaker 1: coming back. Who are some of the players that we
Speaker 1: haven't talked about yet that we should be talking about.
Speaker 1: We're also gonna get Bucky's thoughts on the Cowboys draft
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I'm Darren Wood's, former Dallas Cowboy player and
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Speaker 1: here from a radio row in Indianapolis for the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Scouting Combine. It's the draft show, presented
Speaker 1: by Miller White alongside Ayesha Morrison up kyle' Almo's joined
Speaker 1: by NFL Networks very own analysts Bucky Brooks, and we've
Speaker 1: spent some time talking about the generics around the combine
Speaker 1: and what we can kind of expect throughout the week.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this class a little bit.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do so with a little bit of Twitter.
Speaker 1: On the twenty are fans, of course sending questions through Twitter,
Speaker 1: and we'll start with this one. Who are we not
Speaker 1: talking about that we should be talking about? I was
Speaker 1: getting frustrated from wearing my glasses all day. I went
Speaker 1: to laser part of this show. In the past, we
Speaker 1: go through names like crazy, but is there anything that
Speaker 1: I think we should be talking about, and it can
Speaker 1: be Cowboys related or could just be overall in the draft.
Speaker 1: I would say a couple of names Twitter from Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Tennessee quarterbacks. I don't think people are talking about them enough.
Speaker 1: I think there's a fascination over Will Levis and Anthony
Speaker 1: Richardson that Entucky Will Levis Florida Anthony y quarterback from Florida, respectively,
Speaker 1: where we're talking about their tools and all that other stuff.
Speaker 1: But the game is about how you play it, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're many that play the game
Speaker 1: better than him to hook her at quarterback. People who
Speaker 1: talk about the age he's twenty six years old, but
Speaker 1: at quarterback that doesn't necessarily matter because quarterbacks can't play
Speaker 1: until their forty. We've seen it, and what you're trying
Speaker 1: to do is you're trying to get someone on the
Speaker 1: field who has experienced. He's an experienced player, so he's one.
Speaker 1: Andre Carter, the edge rusher, edge defender from Army, is
Speaker 1: another one that I believe deserves a little more love,
Speaker 1: just in terms of six ten wingspan. Two seasons ago,
Speaker 1: he had fifteen and a half sacks at West point,
Speaker 1: and if you've seen Army play, they're not loaded with
Speaker 1: blue chip guys. So the fact that they have him
Speaker 1: a super freak athlete who's also a very productive player.
Speaker 1: He's someone who also deserves a lot of attention. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: You bring up the quarterbacks because I mean, we made
Speaker 1: the joke earlier that quarterback is not a conversation depending
Speaker 1: on who you talk to, it's not a conversation in
Speaker 1: the first round, but it's definitely a conversation. Cooper Rushers
Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent. Yes, he's been your back up
Speaker 1: for quite some time. Now you turn around and you
Speaker 1: can talk about the back half of this contract with
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Now, he's got two years left on this
Speaker 1: deal heading into this year, and that's if they don't
Speaker 1: extend him, if they don't restructure him. So quarterback is
Speaker 1: on the table. In terms of mid round draft picks,
Speaker 1: that's where you're going to find a hindon hooker. Anthony
Speaker 1: Richardson's not going to be there in the mid rounds.
Speaker 1: Will Levis is not going to be there in the
Speaker 1: mid rounds. A hindon hooker a Jake Hayner from Fresno State.
Speaker 1: There are a couple guys there that are going to
Speaker 1: be there in the middle rounds, and that's where the
Speaker 1: Cowboys could potentially target it, and the Cowboys should target
Speaker 1: because you can never go wrong. And being in the
Speaker 1: quarterback business, sure, we've seen a lot of people laughed
Speaker 1: and sticker when the Philadelphia Eagles said that they wanted
Speaker 1: to have a quarterback factory. When Carson wentzaid, just so
Speaker 1: that made your contract and they drafted Jaalen Hursts in
Speaker 1: the second round, and lord behold, Jalen Hurst is the
Speaker 1: one that leads him back to a super Bowl. And
Speaker 1: so you can never go wrong. If it's the most
Speaker 1: important position in football, you want to make sure you
Speaker 1: invest in that position. And so allocating resources is every
Speaker 1: other year to make sure that you have a slew
Speaker 1: of young quarterbacks that are development, that are developing, and
Speaker 1: something that makes sense. And also for McCarthy, that is
Speaker 1: something that he knows. He's talked about the quarterback school
Speaker 1: and all the things that they used to do yesteryear.
Speaker 1: I could see him wanting to get back to that
Speaker 1: to make sure that you always have someone in the opera.
Speaker 1: I also don't think I want to say there's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with quarterbacks coming in and developing and sitting behind.
Speaker 1: I think we've gotten so used to these guys coming
Speaker 1: out and being immediate playmakers, immediately making a difference that
Speaker 1: it puts some pressure on these young guys to come
Speaker 1: in and be the playmakers right away. No, there's absolutely
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with these gentlemen coming in playing behind someone
Speaker 1: and really starting to develop the game and learn it,
Speaker 1: you know, as they're in the NFL. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. And what has happened is we've
Speaker 1: become increasingly less patient microwave with young players, and particularly quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: We want young quarterbacks to come off to college field
Speaker 1: and immediately have an act on the game. And it's
Speaker 1: really really hard. The one thing that it won't change
Speaker 1: the narrative, but everyone will be on the search for
Speaker 1: You will hear this a ton. Everyone's looking for the
Speaker 1: next Brock Party. Everyone's looking for the next guy that
Speaker 1: is taken on day three that has the ability to start.
Speaker 1: I would say that it was initially Dak was that guy.
Speaker 1: For a couple of years, Jack was that guy, and
Speaker 1: so others are going to look for the cost efficient,
Speaker 1: cheap quarterback that is good enough to play and have success.
Speaker 1: The common in nominator between Dak Prescott and Brock Party
Speaker 1: played a long time in college. Yeah, a lot of snaps,
Speaker 1: a lot of experience. That experience allowed them to develop
Speaker 1: a level of expertise that when they had their opportunity
Speaker 1: to play right away as rookies, they took advantage of it.
Speaker 1: Do you have anybody that fits that mold in this
Speaker 1: draft class? Based off of what you've seen where you
Speaker 1: talked about two guys, you talk about hyn from Fresno
Speaker 1: Stuck about that conversation. He certainly is in that conversation.
Speaker 1: He's the one that everyone's talked that that talks about
Speaker 1: you talking about Hooker was a six year player. Has
Speaker 1: it has to be someone who has played a ton
Speaker 1: because you're seeing the experience. Broder Purtty was like a
Speaker 1: four year starter to four year starter at Iowa State.
Speaker 1: All those snaps, all those reps matter. Kenny Pickett first
Speaker 1: round pick last year, he had a significant amount of
Speaker 1: experience before he comes to the National Football League, and
Speaker 1: so that's what you're looking for. You're looking for someone
Speaker 1: who's played a lot because that play, that ability to
Speaker 1: see things, process things, work through things helps him when
Speaker 1: they get to the pros. I'm looking down the list
Speaker 1: at the moment and I'm seeing Clayton Tune Houston. You
Speaker 1: talk about a blinking light for somebody that would fit
Speaker 1: the Cowboys mold. It would fit the value of a
Speaker 1: Day three guy and has that experience and the leadership ability.
Speaker 1: He's done so in multiple programs throughout but he's coming
Speaker 1: out of Houston. Yeah, he certainly has, and he's done
Speaker 1: it a ton. He does have that experience, and everyone
Speaker 1: has got to circle those guys because what happens in
Speaker 1: our league, it's a copykt league. So when team team see,
Speaker 1: like you remember last year, the buzz at this time was, oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta find a Ebo Savor. I gotta find a
Speaker 1: versaal player that can do a bunch of different things
Speaker 1: on the defensive, all these things or whatever. So now
Speaker 1: it's the Brock Purdy conversation is going to be that,
Speaker 1: and it's not only Brock Purdy, but then it's also
Speaker 1: gonna be the Jalen Hurts, who's the underrated, undervalued quarterback
Speaker 1: that has the intangibles to work in his game and
Speaker 1: get better and become a guy that emerges from Day
Speaker 1: two Day three status to being a legitimate starter that
Speaker 1: can lead a team. Yeah, and you mentioned Hendon Hooker.
Speaker 1: One thing that I like about him and I think
Speaker 1: is going to suit him in this league is his
Speaker 1: ability to improvise. I think a lot of teams are
Speaker 1: starting to look for quarterbacks that have the ability to improvise.
Speaker 1: Number one, because offensive line plays the story for another day.
Speaker 1: It is it's absolutely hard. Those guys don't get as
Speaker 1: much time, absolutely understand, but that is something that a
Speaker 1: quality that I think is really important for most of
Speaker 1: the guys that are playing the quarterback position moving forward.
Speaker 1: How do you improvise? How do you play on the run,
Speaker 1: how do you pass on the run. How's your accuracy
Speaker 1: on the run Because a lot of these guys are
Speaker 1: running for their lives sometimes, so it's important. There are
Speaker 1: two things about that point. So coaches will tell you
Speaker 1: that you want a quarterback who is athletic, and so
Speaker 1: you got to make sure that it's not necessarily the
Speaker 1: athlete that is playing quarterback, but you want a quarterback
Speaker 1: that's polish a quarterback play, but as the athleticism to
Speaker 1: move around. When we talked about those other guys in
Speaker 1: the AFC, when we talked about Joe Burrow and Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert and John. Those guys are quarterbacks who also have
Speaker 1: the athleticism to move around and by a time. Because
Speaker 1: as good as you are as a play call, and
Speaker 1: you can't call a perfect play every time, sometimes you
Speaker 1: want the quarterback to be able to bail you out
Speaker 1: and erase it. Secondly, I just had a conversation with
Speaker 1: John Fox, longtime NFL head coach. He was now going
Speaker 1: to consult with the Detroit Lions, and he said, the
Speaker 1: biggest mismatch on the field old line versus D line.
Speaker 1: You deal them with guys who are running five four
Speaker 1: forties versus guys that are four six forties. And as
Speaker 1: much as we want to think that those guys can
Speaker 1: hold up, it's difficult because you're dealing with superheroes. On
Speaker 1: the other end, we've seen in Dallas Michael Parsons doing
Speaker 1: this thing against everybody. You can't as much as you
Speaker 1: draw up to protection, you cannot block a guy like that.
Speaker 1: So your quarterback has to be able to escape and
Speaker 1: maneuver and maybe buy some time to help the mismatches
Speaker 1: that are going on up front. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: when we've talked about the interviews in Indianapolis and with
Speaker 1: these teams. Is is it more one way or the
Speaker 1: other volatile for the quarterback position to impress in these
Speaker 1: interviews than it is for any other position to impress
Speaker 1: or is it kind of even across the board the
Speaker 1: position a position. No, it's always quarterback because the quarterback
Speaker 1: has tasked with so much. So what you're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out what the quarterback is he mature enough to
Speaker 1: handle the thing that there used to be saying that
Speaker 1: your quarterback is expected to be presidential? The way that
Speaker 1: he carries himself, there's there's a regalness to the way
Speaker 1: that he goes about his business, the way that he
Speaker 1: is on point, how smart he is because outside of
Speaker 1: the owner and the head coach, he's biggest representative of
Speaker 1: the franchise. Every day, every time that he steps in
Speaker 1: front of the mic, there's something that he projects that
Speaker 1: represents the franchise. The other thing, we want him to
Speaker 1: be the leader of the team, whether he is or not,
Speaker 1: he has to be able to really like take all
Speaker 1: these different personalities in the locker room and get them
Speaker 1: going in the right direction. So when you think about
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, there are a lot of things that you
Speaker 1: can say about Dak Prescott. The one thing that you
Speaker 1: can't question his leadership ability and his ability to galvanize
Speaker 1: the team. And so there's a certain skill that you
Speaker 1: have to have and you have to display to be
Speaker 1: able to do that. So in these interviews, you have
Speaker 1: to have the sense, can I see this guy standing
Speaker 1: in front of the room commanding a group of men
Speaker 1: that may be significantly older than him. So it's really
Speaker 1: important veterans, some of those veterans, those guys that have
Speaker 1: been there for a while, And to your point, this
Speaker 1: year was my first time really being in the locker room.
Speaker 1: And it sounds so cliche when we say it about
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and about the quarterback position, like they gotta
Speaker 1: be good leaders. But to witness it, to witness him
Speaker 1: being able to go to one guy and deal with it,
Speaker 1: you know, and talk to him and then go to
Speaker 1: the whole other side of the locker room, it's important.
Speaker 1: It's really important moving forward, especially when you start talking
Speaker 1: about these young quarterbacks trying to integrate themselves into these
Speaker 1: locker rooms. Lastly, because you got to see it up
Speaker 1: closer personal, Dak had maybe his worst year than we've seen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but did his personality change now? Was he surly had
Speaker 1: ordery with the press? Did he did he blame others?
Speaker 1: He didn't do that, And so what you feel good
Speaker 1: about is, Okay, he has a level of toughness that
Speaker 1: equips him to be ready for this position. And so
Speaker 1: that toughness is an underrated trait that you're looking for
Speaker 1: a quarterbacks. I completely agree, and I think that's something
Speaker 1: that Cowboys fans sometimes lose track of. Sometimes media tracks
Speaker 1: loses track of it as well. But like you just said,
Speaker 1: worst career year on the field outside of injuries, but
Speaker 1: then he comes back. He won Walter Payton Man of
Speaker 1: the Year for a reason. I mean, he's still the
Speaker 1: same Dak Prescott. So the fact that he was able
Speaker 1: to study the ship from his own interior struggles, yes,
Speaker 1: is something that should be commended. And I completely agree.
Speaker 1: Not everybody is built like that, and he is one
Speaker 1: guy that certainly is built like that. Moving forward, all right,
Speaker 1: the panel's prediction prior to the workouts at the combine
Speaker 1: the Cowboys first round pick, first round pick. Early prediction.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because this is early because free agency hasn't happened.
Speaker 1: You haven't necessarily seen pro days. You don't know who
Speaker 1: the thirty visit guys are. You don't know who a
Speaker 1: Dallas Day guy is. Who is your first round prediction
Speaker 1: prior to the combine. It's great questions. JD was the
Speaker 1: one that answered or asked it, by the way. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So let's go go position by position. Let's go cornerback,
Speaker 1: corner first round pick, right, yeah, first twenty sixth overall.
Speaker 1: So we need someone opposite Treyvon Dicks because last year
Speaker 1: when Anthony Brown got hurt. You're not alone with this,
Speaker 1: but it was bad on that other side. Okay, And
Speaker 1: so now stylistically, how does dan Quinn want to play.
Speaker 1: Do they want to be more man to man or
Speaker 1: do they want to be more zone ish, Because then
Speaker 1: that changes the equation because camp Smith could be there
Speaker 1: from South Carolina. He's more zone, more eyes, more of
Speaker 1: that part. But then you can have some of these
Speaker 1: other guys. Delante Banks from Maryland, who's kind of like
Speaker 1: your tall super athlete in magurate with the ball skills.
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna be there. Kylie Ringo Potensi could
Speaker 1: be there, super athlete, great straight line speed and explosiveness.
Speaker 1: Ball skills are lacking. But with Trayvon on one side
Speaker 1: who has exceptional ball skills, is that's something that you're
Speaker 1: looking in. I mean, of course it helps if you
Speaker 1: can have an all encompassy corner. Well, that corner that's
Speaker 1: opposite Traymond is gonna get a lot of work. So
Speaker 1: there a lot of we saw how the balls kind
Speaker 1: of now wherever the every volving corner was over there,
Speaker 1: he got a lot of action, and he will continue
Speaker 1: to get that action. So they have to have the
Speaker 1: temperament and the length and those things. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I know, everyone projects this got
Speaker 1: to go higher. But he may end up being there
Speaker 1: because there's some people that worry about some of the stuff.
Speaker 1: Joey Porter Junior, Penn State, Penn State Super Long. I
Speaker 1: think I was doing backflip if Joey Porter Junior was there.
Speaker 1: The only reason why I tell you that he may
Speaker 1: end up being in the mid twenties is because when
Speaker 1: people look at the tape, they see him press knows
Speaker 1: the knows, but you rarely see him backpedal. You don't
Speaker 1: see him use other tools in the toolbox. And he's
Speaker 1: always a bump and run guys, so he might be there.
Speaker 1: And if you're fascinated by two things, if you're fascinated
Speaker 1: by the lynth like dan Quinn appears to be, and
Speaker 1: if you believe that you have a great teacher like
Speaker 1: our Harrison Joe Witt junior, you may take a guy
Speaker 1: like that because you feel like you can develop him
Speaker 1: and get him to play the way did you want
Speaker 1: to play on their perimeter? And that's what I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, is like looking at this cornerback class, there's
Speaker 1: only a few guys to me that stand out that
Speaker 1: half the ball skills that I guess you would be
Speaker 1: looking for great you know, good coverage, always in position,
Speaker 1: but are they playing on the ball like that? We
Speaker 1: were talking about this yesterday, um because I was asking
Speaker 1: Kyle like, do you get a more conservative corner on
Speaker 1: that other side? And what I mean by that it's
Speaker 1: just not as much of a risk tape girl or
Speaker 1: whatever as Traymon. But then you look at my Manuel
Speaker 1: Forbes and you know, and Mississippi State, and you say,
Speaker 1: he is a lot like Trayvon. So do you want
Speaker 1: do you want that same? I think dan Quinn could
Speaker 1: just plug him in. But I think he would only
Speaker 1: the only thing I was I was hiring him coming
Speaker 1: into the event. Now it might be lying season, But
Speaker 1: then I have people tell me that he only weighed
Speaker 1: in like he was one sixty two. Really not not here,
Speaker 1: but he was one sixty two during the season, one
Speaker 1: sixty five during the season, and we'll get him here.
Speaker 1: Of course, that made my stomach. That made my stomach
Speaker 1: because I was like the biggest fan. I was saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: it's my guy. I dropped a bed to my Jeff
Speaker 1: just because I wanted to name it. Have it. Because
Speaker 1: the ball skills that you talked about, I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's a better guy that plays with his eyes
Speaker 1: than him, Like Divine Withers wonted to be long gone
Speaker 1: from Illinois, but Emmanuel Forbes his ability to play because
Speaker 1: I wrote that in my notes. Not only can he
Speaker 1: play press, but he plays cover zero. Where he's on
Speaker 1: the island, he's making plays. I want to see at
Speaker 1: four pick sixes through his career, like this dude is fantastic.
Speaker 1: But they said Buck, the size and the tackling could
Speaker 1: be issues. So his size thing is significant, like how
Speaker 1: much he weighs in at we need him to come
Speaker 1: in a little thicker because there were This one is
Speaker 1: one eight one eighties a lot of different than one
Speaker 1: sixty five, no doubt. And the Cowboys are known for
Speaker 1: wanting to have some some white some size. Hurt. My
Speaker 1: feelings hurt too. It hurt me my first round pick
Speaker 1: that I could see there there being being there because
Speaker 1: of the quarterback stuff and all that stuff. Um a
Speaker 1: Vila from Steve a Vila from tu I think that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could definitely benefit from his play, um the flexibility,
Speaker 1: especially at guard. Right now we're looking at I don't
Speaker 1: really know if you don't know if my McGovern's gonna
Speaker 1: come back this year. It feels like because Connor McGovern's
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent. Tyrn Smith of Courses Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: backed up Tyrn Smith. He says he expects him to
Speaker 1: be back this upcoming year, but that's still a big question.
Speaker 1: Who's always been hurt though my eighteen games in the
Speaker 1: last three years, so you keep you keep counting on
Speaker 1: a guy who's always hurt. At some point you have
Speaker 1: to have like the replacement ready and Kyl Smith is
Speaker 1: a really good job try when he had an opportunity,
Speaker 1: But what does that look like. Because the other thing
Speaker 1: we talk about Dak Prescott, because we have to spend
Speaker 1: it forward. You want to get return to the investment,
Speaker 1: you gotta protect him up front. And when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have been at their best, they've been able to run
Speaker 1: the ball when they want to run it. They've also
Speaker 1: been able to throw off play action. You gotta have
Speaker 1: the fortunes up front to be able to do that.
Speaker 1: And to your point and TI, your pressure is something
Speaker 1: that especially come up with thumb or stuff like that
Speaker 1: is something that that Dak Prescott is that's not one
Speaker 1: of his favorite things. I want to say is that
Speaker 1: the interior pressure, especially with the escapability. But with the
Speaker 1: first round pick, Cowboys typically hit on the first round
Speaker 1: picks with offensive line, especially offensive line. They have in
Speaker 1: their mind that if we if it's the first round,
Speaker 1: or this guy's probably gonna work. And that's why I
Speaker 1: believe that possibly Steve Villa could be a guy that
Speaker 1: they take. Well, it makes sense the way that you're thinking,
Speaker 1: because the first team that you have to do is
Speaker 1: you gotta win the division. Well, we're coming off a
Speaker 1: year which the Philadelphia Eagles has seventy secks no one
Speaker 1: could block them up front, and you saw firsthand what
Speaker 1: it looks like when you're unable to protect the quarterback
Speaker 1: against that team. So the only way you can do
Speaker 1: it you have to be able to beat them in
Speaker 1: the print, in the churches. And so maybe investing in
Speaker 1: an offensive guard an offensive lineman up there gives you
Speaker 1: the ability to go total toe with the team that
Speaker 1: now where's the crown in the NFC, and that will
Speaker 1: be the Eagles. There's another there's another piece of content
Speaker 1: that's That's the thing though, is offensive line. I think
Speaker 1: it's a bigger need than people really realize. And I
Speaker 1: think overall your first second or third round pick, I
Speaker 1: would really I'm not going out on a lamb here.
Speaker 1: There's going to be an offensive lineman in the first
Speaker 1: three rounds for the Cowboys because they need to, like
Speaker 1: you said, beat some of those teams that are just
Speaker 1: beefy upfront that they have that pass rushing ability. Washington's
Speaker 1: in there too, They've got a great front line. To
Speaker 1: look at the team, So let's look at the team
Speaker 1: that where they bowed out the San Francisco forty nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what they have upfront, I mean you talk about physicality
Speaker 1: to being able to win into trenches. I think now
Speaker 1: on the morning, I'll talk to you guys like that
Speaker 1: might be that might be the move. The move might
Speaker 1: be to double up on the offensive line, because you
Speaker 1: also said they've had a lot of success. Whoever is
Speaker 1: in charge of finding their offensive lineman, they've done a
Speaker 1: really good job of doing it. So maybe you lean
Speaker 1: more into that because one thing that you cannot do
Speaker 1: in the first round. You can't have an egregious miss
Speaker 1: now and the Cowboys are proven that they are able
Speaker 1: to find lineman in the first round, So maybe you
Speaker 1: go back and do it. So this is a general
Speaker 1: and felt question already asked. If you're Chicago, of course,
Speaker 1: there have been some rumors that they could trade out
Speaker 1: of the first overall pick. Would you do it before
Speaker 1: the draft or would you do it the night of
Speaker 1: the draft or right up next to it in order
Speaker 1: to kind of have the most leverage all the way through.
Speaker 1: So there are a few different ways if you're Chicago,
Speaker 1: where you want to leverage this. So a lot of
Speaker 1: it would be determined. You have to wait until after
Speaker 1: the combine because you have to see if anyone's gonna
Speaker 1: fall in love with the quarterback. Because that would drive
Speaker 1: the interest in the number one pick. If you get
Speaker 1: teams that are interested in the number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: Now you have to figure out, Okay, what do we
Speaker 1: want to do. Do we want to let the Colts
Speaker 1: move up from four to one, we take their fourth
Speaker 1: and then continue to trade down so we accumulate all
Speaker 1: of these picks to rebuild the team. Because for the Bears,
Speaker 1: one players not going to break them right back. They
Speaker 1: have to they have to have multiple blue chip players.
Speaker 1: Defends the gap on the competition. And so look, you
Speaker 1: do it with the deal is right. Normally the closer
Speaker 1: that you get to the draft deadlines kind of bring
Speaker 1: about movement. Um I always speak, if they're gonna move
Speaker 1: the pig, they have to move it fairly earlier. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just this maybe is a sidebar. But with what's going
Speaker 1: on with the Bears with um with Justin Fields, he's
Speaker 1: already what two three years in years, and they are
Speaker 1: really in a like you said, like, one guy's not
Speaker 1: gonna do it, two guys might under three, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to. They're gonna have to attack free agency heavily
Speaker 1: and draft. Well, with that being said, how do you
Speaker 1: handle him? Do you like do you keep him there
Speaker 1: while you're rebuilding because you don't want to, especially with
Speaker 1: how he plays the game, especially with how mobile he
Speaker 1: is and his athleticism. Do you want to waste what
Speaker 1: his his good year, his young years with rebuilding like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm out of curiosity. Look, I think I think he
Speaker 1: plays how he plays, and yeah, how he plays the
Speaker 1: way he plays quarter back, you got to do that.
Speaker 1: I think with Jalen Hurts going to the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: I think it makes Justin Fields style of play. It
Speaker 1: kind of makes it irrelevant because you see the team
Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl with a player playing like that,
Speaker 1: so he can continue to do that. The thing about
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, you have to take Justin Fields versus this class.
Speaker 1: So if Justin Fields was in this class, how would
Speaker 1: he stack up compared to C. J. Stroile, Bryce Young,
Speaker 1: Will Levis and those other guys. And unless you feel
Speaker 1: those other guys are better or significantly better, you say
Speaker 1: the course with him. Yes, at some point you want to.
Speaker 1: You would love to reset to Rockie Clark, but you
Speaker 1: don't give away a good player to then go kind
Speaker 1: of wandering in the wild trying to find another quarterback
Speaker 1: that may be as good as him tracking that I
Speaker 1: was more so just worry about I mean, granted, like
Speaker 1: you said, like Jalen still was if I'm understanding, was
Speaker 1: he still played injured? Correct? So and justin deal with
Speaker 1: deal with quite a few injuries this season as well.
Speaker 1: And I think that the mobile quarterback is kind of
Speaker 1: what people are improvising, you know, and that's fantastic. I
Speaker 1: just with how much, like you said, especially on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, they need offensive line. Then
Speaker 1: you receiver's day. How you can't change that quickly? So
Speaker 1: do you just go through the change with him or
Speaker 1: I think you have to go through the change with
Speaker 1: him because what you're hoping is that he can he
Speaker 1: can continue to improve and get better. The league is
Speaker 1: where it's hard for a quarterback to stay healthy. You
Speaker 1: saw seventy different quarterbacks play. And so whether you play
Speaker 1: in the pocket, outside of the pocket, whether you're a
Speaker 1: runner or just a thrower, if you get hit, you
Speaker 1: don't get hurt at quarterback Like that's that's that's that's
Speaker 1: just kind of the reality of the situation. And so
Speaker 1: what you would like to do is you like to
Speaker 1: hedge against your bet. So you want to make sure
Speaker 1: that you have a backup in place that can play,
Speaker 1: and then you want to continue to surround him. To
Speaker 1: think about the Bears, they're so far away in a
Speaker 1: few different areas. Defensively, they traded away to the top
Speaker 1: players Robert Quinn and then Roquan Smith in the middle
Speaker 1: of the year, so they have to really upgrade and
Speaker 1: they can have to upgrade it. I mean, they haven't
Speaker 1: know a lot of cap space, but the spinning the
Speaker 1: cap space a free agency drafting and hitting all the
Speaker 1: players is unlikely. But I think your best course of
Speaker 1: Ashtons Coatilla low with Justin Fields as your quarterback. It's
Speaker 1: interesting to think about because, I mean, we talked about
Speaker 1: the value of drafting a quarterback consistently. Even in the
Speaker 1: Cowboys scenario where you have a Dak Prescott that you
Speaker 1: can rely on as a franchise quarterback. It does it
Speaker 1: brings that value up when you bring out the number
Speaker 1: of seventy quarterbacks playing, because it certainly is something to
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Speaker 1: Combine in Indianapolis. As we wrap up the final segment
Speaker 1: with Aisha Morrison Bucky Brooks, I'm Kyle Yeoman's Bucky. Before
Speaker 1: we get into this final segment, where can we find you?
Speaker 1: You're on the NFL network quite often. Where are some
Speaker 1: of the next spots what's on the horizon for you
Speaker 1: throughout draft season, throughout the cub and you get a
Speaker 1: chance to see me on NFL dot Com. We'll do
Speaker 1: a digital show call Combat Today Wow. We'll preview all
Speaker 1: the action that's about to take place over the next
Speaker 1: four days. And then after that NFL dot Com. We
Speaker 1: got pats that the draft coming up in April, so
Speaker 1: we have like a rough long run of shows talking
Speaker 1: about the draft and all the prospects and that stuff.
Speaker 1: And then you can always read all the articles on
Speaker 1: NFL dot com as well, and he does some work
Speaker 1: with Dallas Cowboys dot com as well throughout the season,
Speaker 1: throughout the draft process. We love ourselves some Bucky Brooks,
Speaker 1: so be sure to follow him on everything that he's doing.
Speaker 1: He's on Twitter as well. All right, last couple of
Speaker 1: seconds of the show or last couple of minutes, not seconds.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make it stressful like that. But when
Speaker 1: we get into the nitty gritty of this draft class,
Speaker 1: both of you have watched a boatload of film, ton
Speaker 1: of film around these draft prospects. Who's been your favorite
Speaker 1: film watch so far? I'll start with Bucky, because Aisha,
Speaker 1: we've at least heard some of your pet cats, some
Speaker 1: of your favorites, your piss yea, who's yet cats? Running
Speaker 1: back from Spears is one of my guys. He's one
Speaker 1: of my favorites. I think he's gonna be I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a handful. And you put him in
Speaker 1: and let him go, and you think about the success
Speaker 1: that Tony Pollard has been able to have an the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Has that explosive back I think he
Speaker 1: has all the day. He can catch the ball out
Speaker 1: of the backfield. He's electric. Uh. He left a lasting
Speaker 1: impression with his big game against USC at the end.
Speaker 1: He's the one that's one of my favorites. He's a
Speaker 1: fun one. I was at that USC the Cotton Bowl.
Speaker 1: It was at at and T Stadium. My goodness, it
Speaker 1: was next level phenomenal stuff. You go, Kyle, you want
Speaker 1: me to go. But I've always I've always been one
Speaker 1: that likes the Jordan Addison, the Jackson Smith and chick buzz.
Speaker 1: It was funny. I was talking yesterday with somebody and
Speaker 1: they said, where do you think the Cowboys under the radar?
Speaker 1: What do you think their first round pick would be?
Speaker 1: Not your prediction, but what would be one to watch
Speaker 1: out for. You mentioned wide receivers earlier, you mentioned Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb and then drop off to Michael Gallup at that
Speaker 1: number two spot. I think you go and get wide
Speaker 1: receiver talent at some point. They did it last year.
Speaker 1: They waited on Jalen Tilbert. They felt really good about that.
Speaker 1: I haven't given up on Jalen Tolbert yet. They didn't brand.
Speaker 1: David didn't need somebody earlier. They need somebody early. Jordan Addison, USC,
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jacbot Ohio State. You talk about technical
Speaker 1: route runners. Those have been fun and I used to
Speaker 1: I used to really get onto David Hellman on this trip. Specifically,
Speaker 1: I remember getting on to Hellman when we were sitting
Speaker 1: at one of these tables on Radio Row and I
Speaker 1: was like, dude, you can't always take a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: You can't always tell me the Cowboys are gonna take
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. And here I am talking about a
Speaker 1: wide receiver, a couple of wide receivers that I really
Speaker 1: like in the first round. It's funny that you talk
Speaker 1: about those two guys, because Jackman Smith a nick people
Speaker 1: I think I've forgotten about, Like I know he didn't
Speaker 1: play Butch at all this year, but the year before
Speaker 1: he was unbelievable. Yeah, and he is an al STANDI
Speaker 1: rout runner. I think three forty seven against the Rose
Speaker 1: in the best in the draft in terms of just
Speaker 1: like running around, getting the open, creating separation, made him
Speaker 1: to get busy. He can do it. I will say this,
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers has a very soft spot in my heart
Speaker 1: in terms of Jos in college being a big time playmaker.
Speaker 1: He reminds me a lot. He reminds me of ab
Speaker 1: and Tier Brown without the craziness. Like I don't think
Speaker 1: he has all the crazy stuff, but when you watch
Speaker 1: him run routes, can get get down and he catches
Speaker 1: the ball on the run. He he is a problem.
Speaker 1: Sidney Brown from Illinois is gonna be water that is
Speaker 1: going to get on people's nerves. I love his versatility.
Speaker 1: We talked about how much experience matters. It's a five
Speaker 1: year starter. This is a guy that understands the game.
Speaker 1: He can play from different spots. But I really feel
Speaker 1: like I call him swiper. I feel like I call
Speaker 1: him swiper because I feel like you can you can
Speaker 1: He's because of his size, you can miss him. You
Speaker 1: can miss him, not see him. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: make a difference on a team when he comes in.
Speaker 1: He's just he's a smart player. But I love his
Speaker 1: eyes and how he plays the ball. Yeah, we get
Speaker 1: get a brother for free. We can. We try to
Speaker 1: trade on a couple of years ago. We're still working
Speaker 1: one too. You can't impress the player to me, and
Speaker 1: especially with the versatility to maybe play some outside as well,
Speaker 1: if he gets the coaching and do it. That being
Speaker 1: a sure nickel in this league has value, being able
Speaker 1: to play in the box and stuff. Yeah, I love him. Well.
Speaker 1: I think that's the other thing you talk about, Like
Speaker 1: one of the things that stands out this draft. All
Speaker 1: the safeties are nickel guys. They are there are pure
Speaker 1: safeties in this class. All those guys play the star
Speaker 1: position that was popularized in Alabama. All those guys are
Speaker 1: basically nickel corners that can hit and blitz off the
Speaker 1: edges and so it is hard to find a pure
Speaker 1: center fial safety. But yeah, the nickel position that you
Speaker 1: talk about. Everyone is looking for those guys that have
Speaker 1: that versatility go inside of work to slop. Would you
Speaker 1: this is I can't believe I'm asking this question. Still
Speaker 1: would you take a first round running back at twenty six,
Speaker 1: sayt B. Jean Robinson's there twenty six with you make
Speaker 1: that pack. Yes, I'll run the card up. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: still I'm still yeah. So here here's the thing that
Speaker 1: I think some people are missing about the first round
Speaker 1: running back compared to the mid level guys. Okay, how
Speaker 1: many bid level guys have been the guy beyond three years?
Speaker 1: So what happens is you get a flash in the pan,
Speaker 1: a guy who can do it for one year. Whatever
Speaker 1: the difference is, your first round back, your workhorse back.
Speaker 1: He's a dude who has always been the dude who
Speaker 1: is comfortable being to do, comfortable being the workhorse. Even
Speaker 1: with Ezekiel Elliott has kind of come back to the pack,
Speaker 1: there's still something about him as the league guy. And
Speaker 1: remember what this seven or eight for Zeke year? Yeah
Speaker 1: years that we're going into your eight. You're so those
Speaker 1: first five years were pretty solid. So I think now
Speaker 1: what you're looking for if I'm if I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: it back, I'm gonna get it back. I don't want
Speaker 1: to keep having a recycle or whatever. Like I'm not
Speaker 1: a guy that likes to go and buy use cars.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a car. I want a car. I
Speaker 1: won a nice new car. I want all the build
Speaker 1: and whistles. I don't want to have to shrimp like
Speaker 1: it's now changed. I don't want to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I got blue Ray in my car, as opposed to
Speaker 1: the I want all the stuff I want. I want
Speaker 1: all the stuff. And so, yeah, Bijon Robinson is there.
Speaker 1: To me that would make so much sense because there's
Speaker 1: something about not only like the talent, but the size. Yea,
Speaker 1: at some point, you gotta have a big back. Big
Speaker 1: back wears down to deferense. You still need a big back.
Speaker 1: It continues to split Cowboys nations. I mean, and when
Speaker 1: you talk about Mike McCarthy and kind of what he
Speaker 1: looks for and running back, it's kind of weird because
Speaker 1: there were instances where he had power guys, but he
Speaker 1: also had a guy that could catch the ball out
Speaker 1: the backfield, be shifty and things like that. So the
Speaker 1: balance to balance things out with a TP who yeah,
Speaker 1: franchise tag might be important moving forward. So it's funny
Speaker 1: because I don't know if I shared this for me,
Speaker 1: if he shared this with everybody. He talked about the
Speaker 1: tweeting Ezekiel Elliot and Tony Pollard, and he talked about
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott being that big old sedan. Yep, big old
Speaker 1: heavy sedan and you drive that car every day, whereas
Speaker 1: tps to one, he's like you little fast, little catillactics,
Speaker 1: take out on sudden, you drop the top and do that.
Speaker 1: But if you ask him to do a heavy lifting,
Speaker 1: it's not really what he does. And I think I
Speaker 1: always want Tody Pollit to beat at his best, so
Speaker 1: I don't want to change his role and give him
Speaker 1: more responsibilities and potentially take away from make some special.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking for the guy that can be the
Speaker 1: replacement to Zeke Elliott, who can do the heavy short yardage,
Speaker 1: four minute stuff whatever. It may not need to be
Speaker 1: a first round backer, but at some point they need
Speaker 1: the banger to do that so TP can continue to
Speaker 1: do what he always does. So you heard it from
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks himself. It's either be Gen Robinson or Taje Spears.
Speaker 1: They're both gonna have a Cowboys star on their helmets,
Speaker 1: gonna be fantastic, what not, Let's make it happen. Let's
Speaker 1: just go all skill guys. Guys, I'm waiting for the
Speaker 1: fist pump I got yeah, yeah, yeah, both of you,
Speaker 1: because yeah skill guys. I'm always here, guys. All right, Bucky,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for doing this. Is a ton of fun.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll catch up with you down the line.
Speaker 1: Good luck the rest of the way, not only throughout
Speaker 1: the combine, but of course throughout the draft process as well.
Speaker 1: Of course, fine, thanks for having all Right, that does
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