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Speaker 3: This He's Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.

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Speaker 1: What is up? Everyone? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. It is Thursday,

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Speaker 1: March twenty first, and this is a holiday to for

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Speaker 1: most people around the world in sports. They love this day.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's big on free agency, and I'm sure there's

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Speaker 1: some big free agency news not really going on right

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Speaker 1: now at the Star. Maybe a few things will happen

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Speaker 1: here and there, but March Madness obviously is going around.

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Speaker 1: You see a lot of people trying to, you know,

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Speaker 1: fill out brackets and watch games and you know, probably

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Speaker 1: watch their first basketball game of the whole season today.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay, that's the fun of it. But that's

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Speaker 1: not what you guys are want to talk about. You

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Speaker 1: want to talk about the Cowboys, which I understand. Unfortunately

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Speaker 1: this is not hasn't been a lot happening here in

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Speaker 1: these last few days. But still we're always looking forward, looking, uh,

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Speaker 1: looking towards the draft off season. I'm sure you guys

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Speaker 1: have a lot of questions, so we're gonna get to it.

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Speaker 1: We've had a couple of guys been holding for a while.

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Speaker 1: Apologize for that. So let's get it going here. Paul

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Speaker 1: is in Vancouver, Canada. What's up, man, Paul. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for holding as long as you did. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Oh, my brothers, I hope you and Chris are dentwell.

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Speaker 1: We're good. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wanted to kind of like, I value

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Speaker 4: your opinion a lot, so I was wondering what your

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Speaker 4: thoughts are on with the Cowboys and preegency, like like historically,

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Speaker 4: because you remember when we went back years ago when

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Speaker 4: first day of pre agency we signed Anthony Henry, Marco Rivera,

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Speaker 4: and Jason Ferguson. I think that was a very mixed bag.

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Speaker 4: Like Anthony Henry was a hit, Ferguson was up and down,

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Speaker 4: and Rivera wasn't the same guy. He wasn't Green Bay.

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Speaker 4: And then more recently, like guys like Cedric Thornton, we

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Speaker 4: two games for us, but those guys kind of send

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Speaker 4: us back because we had back on his rookie deal,

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Speaker 4: and those guys just kind of, you know, affect your

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Speaker 4: cap negatively. So I don't think freegency hasn't address I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying don't sign anybody, but I'm okay with the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys being cautious and not sacrificing their ability to sign

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Speaker 4: core guys. So I'm kind of okay with what they're doing.

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to get your thoughts on historically with

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Speaker 4: free agency, like how it's you think a bit. I

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Speaker 4: was hoping you can also touch on Sam Williams because

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Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of his. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 4: have a big year and I do think he's a

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Speaker 4: better run player than Fouler and Armstrong's. I want to

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Speaker 4: see what you thought about that. And I really enjoy

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Speaker 4: when you have Darren Woodson on one player. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's the best. So when we talk about like our

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Speaker 4: older players and dynasty years, we never really talk about

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Speaker 4: Kevin Smith and you stick about all the guys he

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of wondering why if you had any stories

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Speaker 4: I think he was one of our better players doc

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Speaker 4: going to be. And yeah, all right, I just want

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Speaker 4: thank you for taking my call. Thanks to make got

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Speaker 4: out of the calls to get to and help talk again.

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Speaker 1: To Thanks, Paul, appreciate that. A lot of good stuff there.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to it. Free agency historically, you know, it

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Speaker 1: And I think they remember that too, and that's kind

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Speaker 1: game of musical chairs for these veterans and you're sitting there.

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Speaker 1: and I understand, I totally I get that. I think

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Speaker 1: that is. But but that's kind of been the key

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Speaker 1: Got to be disciplined and run support. We know he can,

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Speaker 1: He's just got to be smart, you know. You know

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Speaker 1: there's guys like that. Randy Gregory was sort of that way.

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Speaker 1: he also had some issues sometimes with penalties. He'd hit, laid,

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Speaker 1: as for Kevin Smith, you know, I didn't cover him

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Speaker 1: you know, his injury in nineteen ninety five really opened

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Speaker 1: They called him pump Kevin Smith. All right, let's go

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Speaker 1: to Michael. He's in Colton, California.

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Speaker 5: Hey, what's going on? Nick Ay, shout out to you

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Speaker 5: and and the producer Chris back there and the whole

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Speaker 5: Cowboys storyline show Hey the other day right. Ever since

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys lost in the playoffs, first round whatever, I

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Speaker 5: I was devastated. I was in my phillies. I'm not

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Speaker 5: even gonna lie, but I turned it on and man,

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Speaker 5: it was awesome. I heard, I heard your your all

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Speaker 5: And uh, man, I think I can speak for a

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Speaker 5: lot of people when I say we love your show, but.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate that I appreciate. I think he actually made a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my name was mentioned saying hey, you know what

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Speaker 5: I want to say, the Captain Rob Wild deserve man.

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Speaker 5: That dude is awesome. I love to hear his his

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Speaker 5: takes and all that when he talks. Man. But like

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Speaker 5: I said, man, just thank you to the to you

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Speaker 5: and the show man. You got an awesome show going. Yes, Sir,

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Speaker 5: I told my wife about I thought she was gonna

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Speaker 5: you can't call for your doctor's appointment.

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Speaker 1: I've been there, I know how that. Ye. Yeah, be careful,

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Speaker 1: you do all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, sir, But hey, I just I want to

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Speaker 5: ask you, you know what, do you think it's nothing?

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Speaker 4: Nothing?

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Speaker 5: We we've been down this road before with the whole

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Speaker 5: Dak Prescott conversation, but not even on that aspect. Just

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Speaker 5: as far as business, do you think that one of

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Speaker 5: these quarterbacks. I know it's not gonna be Caleb Williams

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Speaker 5: nothing like that, but if somebody slips, like and I

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Speaker 5: think Michael Pinnix is a lot better than and then

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Speaker 5: people are giving him credit for But do you think

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Speaker 5: there's a chance that the Cowboys might might take one

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Speaker 5: just for it, Like I said, the business aspect of

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Speaker 5: the Prescott contract not being done, And.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to do that. I mean you have

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Speaker 1: of the question too. That's a good question. And Michael,

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Speaker 1: thanks thanks for the call, you know, unless you had another.

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Speaker 1: Did you have another call? Point?

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Speaker 5: No, that's it. Thank you, sir, God bless you and

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Speaker 5: the whole team over there.

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Speaker 1: Man, you guys are awesome, all right, thank you, Michael,

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. Uh no, I you know, that's that's interesting,

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Speaker 1: You know, he was there when they drafted Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't sit well with the first round. Wait, with

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Speaker 1: I don't think it would happen in the first round.

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Speaker 1: This is a team that doesn't have a lot of

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Speaker 1: tough one because you know, you've got coaches and quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: that on one year deals are like, let's let's win

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Speaker 1: this thing. You know, let's give me some guys that

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Speaker 1: be interested, maybe not to draft them themselves, but we'll

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Speaker 1: see if anybody else wants to do that. They've done that.

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Speaker 1: They've showed in the past a couple of times. Two

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Speaker 1: thousand and four, I believe, two thousand and seven maybe

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Speaker 1: when there was a quarterback sitting there, and the Cowboys

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Speaker 7: I'm doing good doing that. I've got apparently a better

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna give them credit because I think it was

430
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Speaker 7: Gavin that was talking about an interesting concept as far

431
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Speaker 7: as like he thinks like sometimes the way he thinks,

432
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Speaker 7: like Steven and Jerry look at this as it's kind

433
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Speaker 7: of like a portfolio where they're gonna invest in their

434
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Speaker 7: own and you know, you're gonna keep your portfolio healthy

435
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Speaker 7: and you're gonna kind of live off the dividends. But

436
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Speaker 7: you never actually there's never like a you know, you

437
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 7: know how we act like a four one K. You

438
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,959
Speaker 7: can do aggressive investing, you can do kind of like

439
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 7: you know, passive, and we've never really been There hasn't

440
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 7: been that shift yet to the aggressive change. And I

441
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 7: guess this is this is the first off season Nick, like,

442
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Speaker 7: obviously I'm a hardcore fan because I'm calling in and

443
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 7: you kind of mentioned that, but this is the first

444
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Speaker 7: offseason where I do again, and not to blabor the point,

445
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 7: but the whole all in thing, I think for some

446
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Speaker 7: fans and even for me, it was a little bit

447
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 7: patronizing because I know, like when we say all in,

448
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 7: I know Stephen Jones knows what we need, like because

449
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 7: he's commented on what the Rams did and he congratulate

450
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 7: them like, yeah, you know, they did what they did,

451
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 7: they got a championship and so he so it's not

452
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Speaker 7: like they don't know what we're talking about. So I

453
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 7: think when they say all in, it's just kind of

454
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Speaker 7: like some fans like, then why are you saying it

455
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Speaker 7: like that?

456
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Speaker 1: Then, like Jerry, come on now and I and when

457
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Speaker 1: we hang up here, I've got a text question here

458
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Speaker 1: that I'm going to address about all in as well.

459
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Speaker 1: But we need to stop saying they said it. They

460
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Speaker 1: didn't say all in. Steven did not say that. Jerry

461
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Speaker 1: said it. Jerry answered the question, and I'll get into

462
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Speaker 1: the exact answer I'm going to. I'm going to break

463
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Speaker 1: down the all in comment one more time. But you're right,

464
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Speaker 1: I mean, Steven knows what all in it means. That's

465
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Speaker 1: why he didn't say it.

466
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Speaker 7: But but he did sort of say it because he

467
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 7: said he said, like our version, he said, our version

468
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Speaker 7: of it in the cliff that I saw him say,

469
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Speaker 7: he said, our version of it is keeping our core intact, right, right,

470
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Speaker 7: So that's without saying maybe without actually saying it, like

471
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Speaker 7: that's a sneakier way of saying it. But he's saying,

472
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Speaker 7: like this is our version of all in. But you know,

473
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Speaker 7: I'm saying, like there's a different version of that.

474
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Speaker 1: Like I think that it goes back to what I

475
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: said before about a kid that that that doesn't appreciate

476
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Speaker 1: the twelve toys that he already has. You know, he

477
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: just wants the new one. So no one's going to

478
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Speaker 1: get that excited when you say, guess what, they re

479
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Speaker 1: signed Micah Parsons or they re signed DEC or they

480
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: re signed CD. You're not going to get that excited.

481
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Speaker 1: You're going to be like, what took so long? How

482
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Speaker 1: much did he get? Cool? But you're not like, oh

483
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Speaker 1: my god, thank you because you don't expect him to leave.

484
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Speaker 1: But the reality is is that you know they could

485
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Speaker 1: have got Ceedee Lamb at twenty for twenty five million

486
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: maybe before the season started. Now he's gonna be maybe

487
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Speaker 1: a thirty million dollar player. That's that happens.

488
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Speaker 7: But you but you may not get the excited part

489
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Speaker 7: of it, which I understand your point on that, but

490
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Speaker 7: you also won't get the like the pissed off portion either.

491
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 7: Like it's just being straight. It's just being straight with people.

492
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 7: If you just be straight and just say, hey, this

493
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Speaker 7: is our strategy, I understand some people might not like it,

494
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 7: but okay, what we believe him? That would be a

495
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Speaker 7: better answer.

496
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Speaker 1: All right, all right, I appreciate the call Travis and

497
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on you too. All right, let me

498
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Speaker 1: go to this next this question here. This was from

499
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Speaker 1: Tom and Norman Norman, Oklahoma. I assume Tom. He says,

500
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Speaker 1: can you address this part of Jerry Jones all in quote?

501
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: We will push the hell out of it. It will

502
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Speaker 1: be going all in on different people than you've done

503
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Speaker 1: in the past. We will be going all in. I

504
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Speaker 1: don't know where that quote's from. I'm not sure where

505
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Speaker 1: that quote is from. I haven't seen that one that

506
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: that that sounds a lot more aggressive. I know, I've

507
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: never seen that quote. With the quote that I've seen

508
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: that came out of the Senior Bowl was a question

509
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: that was that that said, will you guys is this

510
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Speaker 1: an all in type of season? And Jerry's response is,

511
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Speaker 1: I would anticipate with with looking ahead to the key

512
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: contracts we'd like to address, will be all in. We

513
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Speaker 1: will be all in. This is what he says. I

514
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Speaker 1: would anticipate we'll be all in at the end of

515
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Speaker 1: this year. So that's the quote. I don't really know

516
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: this other quote. So so we'll be all in. I

517
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, I've said this before. I really feel like,

518
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, with with the one year deals that they have,

519
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: with the money that they're getting tied in, with the

520
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: cloudy future that's ahead of dak this is kind of it.

521
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is the one where the

522
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Speaker 1: windows closing, and this is this is the one that

523
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: they feel like the chips have been pushed in now

524
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: they're waiting on the cards. That's what this season is about.

525
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: That's not what the way the fans took it. The

526
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: fans took it that they're going to be trading for

527
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Speaker 1: top players. They're going to be you know, maybe moving

528
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Speaker 1: next year's one and moving up in the draft and

529
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Speaker 1: getting you know, that's the way they took it. And uh,

530
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Speaker 1: I think I think the Cowboys have always approached it

531
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Speaker 1: as you know, this is all in for us. You know,

532
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Speaker 1: we we've been all in for two or three years now,

533
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Speaker 1: you know, two or three years of of of pushing

534
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: these contracts like this. So it's it's unfortunate that that

535
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: we're still talking about it, but you know, because fans

536
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: not really going to drop it. That's that's the that's

537
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: the reality of it. That's the version of all in

538
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: that they have. All Right, Jeff in Salt Lake City, Utah,

539
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: how you doing good. How you doing.

540
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Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. I just wanted to chat with

541
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Speaker 2: you a little bit. I like to I like how

542
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Speaker 2: Brian always gives you an old player. Yeah, I wanted

543
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Speaker 2: to wanted to talk to you, or wanted to ask

544
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: you if you remember Derek Ross. I'm a big Ohio

545
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: State fan, so yeah, I remember him coming out and

546
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to be a great player.

547
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: But he flamed out pretty quick. And I can't remember why.

548
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't remember if that was a Parcels cut, But

549
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: I just wanted your parcels.

550
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 8: You remember that.

551
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this about parcels. He you know, he

552
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: he had a different terminology on a lot of players.

553
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: And you might be surprised by this, but he calls

554
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: he called Derek Ross cute. He said he's a he's

555
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: a cute player.

556
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: Uh, I do remember that.

557
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: I just think he liked, you know, he just he

558
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: liked the tattoos, he liked his hair. You know, he

559
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: just liked the way his personality had. He was kind

560
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: of you know, he joked a lot a little bit.

561
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,239
Speaker 1: It just it just his demeanor. He was on him

562
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: all the time, you know, he was on him. Uh,

563
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: Derek Ross is probably one of those guys where would

564
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Speaker 1: be in the top you know, one hundred of just

565
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: straight talent, you know. But and I don't remember all

566
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: of it either, you know, I don't remember kind of

567
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: why it didn't always work out. But yeah, he had

568
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: a kickoff return for a touchdown to start the game.

569
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: They got called back for a penalty against Washington. He played,

570
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: He played two or three years, right, Derek Cross.

571
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I remember correctly, he was a third round pick.

572
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: And I know he got in uh late in the season,

573
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: maybe a veteran got hurt, but I can't really remember.

574
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 8: I thought he was super.

575
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: Talented, and then next thing, you know, he was gone.

576
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I figured that was just a Parcels thing.

577
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: But no, but I'll say this though Parcels liked him.

578
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: Parcels gave him chance. I mean, he definitely gave him,

579
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: gave him a chance to play. He just yeah, he

580
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: really liked Derek Ross. And I think he got five

581
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: picks his first year, right, And now, Derrek Ross was

582
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: was a draft pick in Campo's last year, oh two,

583
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Speaker 1: So you're right, you're right, third round pick. I want

584
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: to say he played in three or four seasons, you know,

585
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: and so anyway, and.

586
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: You're probably right, that was just kind of on my mind.

587
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: But I called you Tuesday for the first time, and

588
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: I kind of wanted to come back to a little

589
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: bit about my question. This one's more and I know,

590
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: just listening to you beforehand talking about the all End thing.

591
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: I'm one of those fans that I still kind of

592
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: can't tend to get over that. I thought when Jerry

593
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: said that, I was like, well, maybe this is the

594
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: year and you talk about his version of all in

595
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: maybe extending you know, our superstar players that we have,

596
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: Dak Micah CD. I guess my question is and more

597
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: of a player's perspective. We've heard Micah, you know, make

598
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: comments on his podcast or in the media how you know,

599
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: oh that, or we see him react to like signings

600
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: in Philly or other teams with his perspective, Dak's perspective,

601
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: you know, CD, the way that how competitive they are

602
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: and if you were looking from their eyes on kind

603
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 2: of what's taken place this offseason, all the players that

604
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: we've lost, not really having any come in and I

605
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: know we're still into free agency, we got the draft.

606
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think in their minds they

607
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: could kind of be down on potentially wanting to resign here.

608
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: Like for example, if you look at CD, Dax could

609
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: be gone next year. I hope he's not. I'm a

610
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: Dak supporter, but as a wide receiver, you want to

611
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: play where you know that you have a pretty stable

612
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: quarterback situation. So do you think what's taking place this

613
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: offseason maybe a soft rebuild could potentially affect these guys

614
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: on wanting to resign here. And I know in the NFL,

615
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: if they want, if your team wants to keep you,

616
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: they're going to keep you with the fifth year option

617
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 2: and the franchise tag. I just wanted your thoughts on that,

618
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: maybe from a player's perspective, just something that I've been

619
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: kind of thinking about, Yeah, over the past couple of days.

620
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: Well, you know, Jeff, this comes down to just you know,

621
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: and you when someone hands you a piece of birthday cake,

622
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: do you eat it? You know? Do you take it

623
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: and you eat it? And that's it. I mean, I

624
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: would love to see the other side of the coin

625
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: and to see the faces of the people up there,

626
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: you know that do the contracts if they said, you

627
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,239
Speaker 1: know what, we don't really like all the stuff that

628
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: you guys have been doing or not doing in free agency.

629
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: We don't really want to resign here, all the while

630
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: knowing that the reason why that they're trying to push

631
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 1: all this money that they've got to next year is

632
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: also because they know they've got three huge contracts to sign.

633
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: So what would it take. I mean, man, if CD

634
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: and Micah were like, you know, we really don't like

635
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: what's going on here, Well you want to go down

636
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: to you want to go down to twenty million a

637
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: year or you want to be the top top paid player.

638
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's my point, is that the reason

639
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: why they're not doing a lot is because of these

640
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: contracts that they know they have to do. Don't hold

641
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: them against them the fact that they you know, they

642
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: haven't done that.

643
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, No, no, spletely understand.

644
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Speaker 1: So I don't think they would they would think that way.

645
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: I think it would be it would be a quick

646
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Speaker 1: conversation like why are we signing anyone because we're trying

647
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: to give you thirty one million a year? Oh all

648
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: right right, all right, well right, thanks, see you later.

649
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go work out. I mean, what else can

650
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: you do and say? I mean, now, I don't think

651
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: they would do that well.

652
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Speaker 2: But and then like you said, you know, in regards

653
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: to the front office, you know, CD is probably going

654
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: to be one of the top three wide receivers paid,

655
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: Micah potentially is going to be the top defensive player

656
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: yeah paid in the NFL. So I completely understand on

657
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: on on that portion. I just kind of a little

658
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: thinking outside the box. I appreciate your perspective on that.

659
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it makes complete sense.

660
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Speaker 1: I think I know what you're saying, is is that

661
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: what what are we looking like here? I mean, because

662
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: is this is this going to be a down year?

663
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: Is this going? You know, are what what's what happens next?

664
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Speaker 1: But I mean if that's the case, I mean, how

665
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Speaker 1: do the Lions ever sign anyone? How does how did

666
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: the tight ever signed? How did the Jaguars sign people?

667
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about teams that traditionally just haven't had a

668
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: lot of success. Money talks a lot and it's loud,

669
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Speaker 1: so they and.

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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, I guess from what I'm what I'm seeing.

671
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: You know, like Dak one of the most competitive quarterbacks

672
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Mike is a competitive freak. CD is

673
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: a competitive freak. Yeah, I just I just want to know,

674
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Speaker 2: and I know you can't answer for them, just like,

675
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: what what are they thinking about seeing you know, all

676
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: this all this turnover within the organization. So yeah, just

677
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: you know, you know, I understand what you're.

678
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: Saying, though, but but I think I think they they

679
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: look at it like, all right, Sam Williams, let's go.

680
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: You know, we lost Thorn, Tom Trunk, Sam Williams. I mean,

681
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: Dak probably looks at brock Hoffman and says, there's no

682
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: reason you can't be a guy. Just go TJ Bags.

683
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: You know, if the drafts someone, they draft someone. I mean,

684
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Speaker 1: I'm Dalen Tolbert for gallup.

685
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Speaker 2: Right right, And I'm the internal optimist. I'm a lot

686
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: like Jerry. I always think, no matter how many free

687
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: agents or draft picks don't hit, they can always win.

688
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: And they've shown us that the last three years. Yeah,

689
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: if they stay healthy, they can win games. So I

690
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: guess we'll just see how the rest of the offseason

691
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: plays out and see what they do. So thanks Nick

692
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 2: for taking my call.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: No problem, all right, Jeff, appreciate that. Let me go

695
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: to another text question here. He said, this is this

696
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: is from Brent from Ingleside, Texas. He says about left

697
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: tackle Mark two and a flos l Adams, Tyron Smith too.

698
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: His first year left tackle was eighty six and he

699
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: had flows out and Tyro until two thousand and four.

700
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Speaker 1: That's almost forty years of pre dang good left tackle play.

701
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: And other than a couple of years of Phil pos Derek,

702
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: you had Pat Donovan and all Pro before that, Ralph

703
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: Neely another offer. They have a rich left tackle history. Yeah,

704
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: I was waiting for a question that is interesting. I

705
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: mean when you think of it from that standpoint, I

706
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: mean that you usually you usually have and that's a

707
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: big spot, you know, I mean, it certainly is. And

708
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: so you know they'll get another. They'll probably draft one.

709
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Speaker 1: They may draft one in the first round. And if

710
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work out where they don't, they don't.

711
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: May they get a trade offer that's just too good

712
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: to pass up. Or maybe there's a player, you know,

713
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb type of player that you're just like, man,

714
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: this is yeah, we can reach on this left tackle.

715
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: And that's a question for you guys. Say they need

716
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Speaker 1: to get a starting left tackle and they're sitting here

717
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: at twenty you know, I guess they're at twenty four

718
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: and they're sitting there and they have an opportunity to

719
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: take a tackle that they have a second round great on.

720
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Speaker 1: He probably can come in and be a starter at

721
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Speaker 1: some point, or they can take this dynamic wide receiver

722
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: or cornerback that they have in their top twelve and

723
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: they think it's going to be an outstanding player. Well,

724
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: what would you do? You stick to the board or

725
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: do you go off off of knee? And so that's

726
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: that could happen. I mean, it probably will happen, especially

727
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: when you're looking at the way the draft is going

728
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: to be. I think they're going to have more needs

729
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: going into the draft than we've seen in a while.

730
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: And this is what it looks right now. I don't

731
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Speaker 1: see a lot of things changing here in the next

732
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: few weeks from free agent standpoint. So I unfortunately they

733
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: couldn't put as many band aids on these positions. I mean,

734
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Speaker 1: you don't have really a starting running back and you

735
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: don't have a center at least at least that you

736
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: had you know that you feel comfortable about. You know,

737
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: Rico Daddle obviously could can do it. Hoffman could do it,

738
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: but at what level. So all right, let's go to

739
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Speaker 1: the next caller is Wilson. He's in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

740
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Speaker 9: Wilson, Hey, Nick, how you doing.

741
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Speaker 1: I'd good?

742
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just got off work. Sorry, I give you

743
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 9: a try. It was first time calling period and first

744
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 9: few rings and Chris answers, so that was kind of surprising.

745
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, yeah this is kind of a

746
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: different show. This is the show for first time callers.

747
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: Love it? What do you got? Will oh?

748
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Speaker 9: Nice?

749
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: All right?

750
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Speaker 9: Yeah, So first I just wanted to kind of mention

751
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 9: I've been a fan for a long time and the

752
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 9: first time I ever listened to dallascowboys dot com. I

753
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 9: remember I was on my desktop computer when I remember

754
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 9: Terrence Newman getting drafted and me just going to me

755
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 9: just going to the website and just hearing you guys

756
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 9: talk about it. I don't know if it was you,

757
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 9: I can't remember who it was back then, but.

758
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: I would hope, so, I mean I would hope that

759
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: I was doing that twenty one years ago. I can't

760
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: imagine that many people else doing it.

761
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 9: So yeah, yeah, I was really excited. I was really

762
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 9: excited to like finally be able to like get in

763
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 9: touch with the Cowboys in that kind of a way

764
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 9: when I you know, discovered you guys on the internet.

765
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 9: So anyways, but yeah, I've been listening to you guys

766
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 9: ever since. I wanted to talk about Mike Zimmer real quick.

767
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 9: So typically when we hire like coordinators in general, just

768
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 9: every team in general, like, it's usually a present and

769
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 9: a future kind of a signing. But with him just

770
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 9: doing a one year deal, do you think he's going

771
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 9: to have kind of a different approach coaching the defense? Well,

772
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 9: he'd be do you think more aggressive? Well, he kind

773
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 9: of played this. I mean, I guess he's always kind

774
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 9: of been aggressive, But like I don't really know, Like

775
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 9: I don't really know what to expect out of a

776
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 9: coach who doesn't really know his future, you know what

777
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 9: I mean.

778
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you were to play just a

779
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: regular game of checkers with Mike Zimmer right here in March,

780
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: I think he's going to try to win, I think

781
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: he's gonna slam it down and be like king me.

782
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: You know, I think he's I think he's like that,

783
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: and that's checkers. That don't mean anything. So I think

784
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: a one year deal, a ten year deal doesn't matter.

785
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: I think he's an aggressive coach that's going to try

786
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: to get after the quarterbacks ass That's what I believe

787
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: is going to happen. And so I think I really

788
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: don't think any of that stuff matters to him. He's

789
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: trying to get back in the NFL, trying to prove

790
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: he's had some you know, he's he had some personal

791
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: issues with his family. He's went through a lot of stuff.

792
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: I think he's back. It's all about football right now.

793
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it mattered if the contract said five

794
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: years or one year or a month. I think he's

795
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: going to give you everything he's got. That's Zimmer. That's

796
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: who the guy he's always been, and so I don't

797
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: think that really matters in this case. The question is

798
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: not wrong for other people, but for Mike Zimmer and

799
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: how he's built. I think I don't think the length

800
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: of the contract matters. I think you're going to get

801
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: an aggressive play calling, defensive coach.

802
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 9: Great, And do you think he's going to use our

803
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 9: players kind of like how Quinn did with like UH

804
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 9: to each player's specialty, you know, like not trying to

805
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 9: change each players game up too much, doing what works

806
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 9: best for them what they're good at. Do you think

807
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 9: he's that type of coach as well.

808
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: I think he could be, but I think he's a

809
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: little bit more of a of a this is the system.

810
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean, now now he's he's done some three four

811
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: four three, he's done that kind of stuff. I hope not.

812
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: I hope it's not. You know, I and I'll and

813
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: I'll say this. I think I think where you're going

814
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: to see a difference between Zimmer and dan Quinn is

815
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: at linebacker, okay, because he I think the type of

816
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: linebackers that we've seen that get passed over are the

817
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: ones maybe a little bit older. They've lost a step

818
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: or two. They're still good tackler, but they don't cover

819
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: the past as much. Well, that's what Kendricks is, that guy,

820
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: you know, and the Cowboys have kind of been looking

821
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: at safeties to play this role. They get excited about

822
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: linebackers that are undersized. On third and eight, they can

823
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: go cover the tight end, but the problem is on

824
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: first down they get blown up by the guard that

825
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: hits the second level. I don't think Eric Kendrick is

826
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: gonna get knocked off the ball a lot like that.

827
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Speaker 1: So that's the biggest difference that I see so far

828
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: without watching a practice is that the type of linebackers

829
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: that Zimmer likes in his scheme and Quinn and his

830
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: scheme is going to be a little bit different.

831
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Speaker 9: All right, Well hear it, thanks man, appreciate thanks.

832
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: For the call. Callback Again, we definitely want to hear

833
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: you from you and Virginia Beach, Virginia. A lot of

834
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: cowboy fans over there, for sure. A lot of cowboy

835
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: fans in Germany. Zach in Germany. What's up?

836
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Speaker 4: Hey?

837
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: Nick's going? Man? Good?

838
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 8: How are you good?

839
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 4: Good?

840
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 8: Sorry, I'm trying to call in past couple of days,

841
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 8: but my timing was off.

842
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 7: So that okay, Yeah, no problem, I should be saying.

843
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 8: It's exact from the practice squad. Didn't make the cut,

844
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 8: but we're still on the teams.

845
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's okay. You know, we need we need

846
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: uh we definitely, I mean, still got to have a

847
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: roster for sure. So with roster practice squad, and there's

848
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: always always next year, uh for sure. Now I did

849
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: put Reggie from Germany.

850
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 8: No, I got I gotta beat out Reggie now itself.

851
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, And that's that's the thing, like

852
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't. I didn't actually have a

853
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: math formula to it. But I mean six calls from Germany,

854
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: you know that that equaled at least like ten to

855
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: twelve from you know, just regular calls. So I gave

856
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: a little more leeway to the people that called, you know, regularly,

857
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, regular callers from out of the country. We have,

858
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: We've had two so.

859
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 8: Oh, okay, I'm not listening live unfortunately, so I usually

860
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 8: have to listen the following day. Actually, I guess we're

861
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 8: on this subject. Do you know how many callers you've

862
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 8: had from outside the country?

863
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I do know, good, but but I don't have

864
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: the spreadsheet in front of me.

865
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 4: I don't, no worries.

866
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: I would guess outside of the different callers from outside

867
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: the country, I would guess fifteen to twenty.

868
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's different, good numbers.

869
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe about twenty. Yeah.

870
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 8: So anyways, I'll try to keep I'll try to keep

871
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 8: on his toes.

872
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah problem. Yeah, he moves around, so you know he's

873
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: kind of tough. But uh, all right, what do you got, Zach?

874
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, no problem. A couple of things. So the first

875
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 8: one is really when you look at the Free Agency

876
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 8: and the draft and building a team three sixty five process.

877
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 8: The I think the issue I have and many fans

878
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 8: have is sometimes the which the Cowboys take is almost

879
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 8: like not rostering or playing one element of your game right,

880
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 8: so you have an offensive defense in special teams if

881
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 8: we don't participate and try to truly try to get

882
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 8: better in free agency bringing in some guys and I

883
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 8: get this year cap things like that, but I mean

884
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 8: this is going a rhythm with the Cowboys where we

885
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 8: sit out in the first two leagues. We signed some

886
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 8: backup players and we draft well. But when you look

887
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 8: at other teams that are focused on bringing in free

888
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 8: agent talent, good free agent talent, those teams also have

889
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 8: draft picks just like us. And what's happened, I think

890
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 8: is in some instances when we don't address free agency

891
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 8: properly and maybe bring in a big name here and there,

892
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 8: you go into the draft and now you're going to

893
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 8: pigeonhole yourself. And I'll use this year's draft our offensive line.

894
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 8: Two key positions, probably the two most important positions on

895
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 8: the offensive line. Your center and your left tackle are

896
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 8: both needs. And now what's going to happen since we

897
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 8: picked later, we tend to pick. We're between pick eighteen

898
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 8: and the back half. You know you're gonna have teams

899
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 8: that are gonna jump in front of us because they

900
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 8: know Cowboys have to take these one or two positions.

901
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 8: Last year, happened with Dalton Kincaid. It's happened in the

902
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 8: past where teams will jump in front of us because

903
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 8: they know, ay, the Cowboys have to go after this pick.

904
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 8: So I wanted to hear your response on that before

905
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 8: I hang up. One one other comment since the draft season,

906
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 8: do you have any former draft draft picks that you

907
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 8: wish the Cowboys made? So, for example, I'll use obviously

908
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 8: everybody was gonna use Taco and TJ.

909
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 4: Watt. That's a big one.

910
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 8: But way back in the day, instead of taking Julius

911
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 8: Julius Jones, I wish we would have taken Stephen Jackson.

912
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 8: See what your thoughts are and I'll hang up with us.

913
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: Was Steven, Yeah, Stephen Jackson. That was two thousand and four.

914
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: You know the thing about that is that pick by

915
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: not taking a pick right there they took they got

916
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: another pick in the two thousand and five they taking

917
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: Marcus Spears with that second pick there. Yeah, I mean

918
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: you could go go on and on. I mean, I

919
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: definitely remember wanting them to take Devin Hester. I I

920
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: was thinking that that would be a difference maker type pick.

921
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly the player that they took instead.

922
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm wrong sometimes too, because I

923
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: did not like the DeMarcus war pick. I thought Derek

924
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: Johnson would have been a way better pick. He was

925
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: a linebacker at Texas. He had a decent career. I

926
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: think he had some injuries, and he's not in Hall

927
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: of Fame. I know that, And so you know, that's

928
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: maybe one of the first times I realized that, you know,

929
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: let me just kind of talk about it and lets

930
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: y'all y'all do the drafting, you know now. I I

931
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: definitely remember the day before the draft saying the guy

932
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: I would take, I would not take one of these corners.

933
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: I would take Mikeah Parsons. I said that. I definitely

934
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: thought Michael Parsons would have was the best player to

935
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: take at the eighth pick. I think that's where they were,

936
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: or they were the tenth pick. The move to twelfth.

937
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: So you know, sometimes you just have a feel for it,

938
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: and you have a feel for you know, what you know,

939
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: and sometimes just by looking at the tape. You know,

940
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,479
Speaker 1: we watch YouTube highlights. You don't always see the bad tape.

941
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: You just see the tape. So you know, it's tough

942
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: that these guys that are great in these players, they've

943
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,479
Speaker 1: done it for two years now. You know, they've looked

944
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: at them sophomore, junior, you know, if senior, if they

945
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: go into the senior year. So they've been looking at

946
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: them for two or three years. They have a much

947
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: better idea than any of us that just watch a

948
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: few highlights here and there. And as for the approach,

949
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it is what it is. I mean, like

950
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: you know this this this approach is. You know, the

951
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys have a lot of good players. They've drafted well,

952
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: they're good players. They demand a lot of money, and

953
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: that's kind of been there. What they do is they

954
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: re sign their own guys and they try to keep

955
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, facilitating the roster by drafting other good players.

956
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: I think that if you're going to have a lot

957
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: of money in free agency, you know you're you're probably

958
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: missing on a lot more of these draft picks than

959
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys have. And that's that's the issue.

960
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are drafting, well, uh, they didn't so much

961
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: last year, but they have in the last fifteen years,

962
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: and so that's kind of when they get the free agency,

963
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: they're like, what, we don't We don't want to overpay

964
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: for this guy that you don't even want either, So

965
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep doing it through the draft. And so

966
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: it's just that month of March that frustrates the fans

967
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: because it looks like they're not doing anything but signing

968
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: their own guys. And you know, that's that's the way

969
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: it is, all right. I think we are out of callers.

970
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: Phone line is open at the time right now. Eight

971
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: A eight eight five five two to nine seven. And

972
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: I think I've read all of my questions as well, Chris,

973
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: are you with me? I am open line right now. Yes,

974
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: it's been one of those days, man, it's been one

975
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: of those, like two days. I think back in the

976
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: back back there, just trying to piece all this together.

977
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: So but if Jeff.

978
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: Organ had a question, and do you want to take

979
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: that one?

980
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: He was in between Okay, yeah, there that one there

981
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: it is Jeff and Oregon text question. Yeah, kind of

982
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: got sandwiched in between these other two big questions all right. Uh,

983
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: actually no, I don't want.

984
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 3: To take you don't want to take that one, Okay,

985
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure.

986
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's.

987
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 3: Like everybody wants to do that.

988
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: I know.

989
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: I think it's a dumb idea.

990
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what Chris's opinion is. Stuff they should trade.

991
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: Micah parsons, we need the draft capital. It would get

992
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: us a real It would get us a real defensive

993
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: end and much more this year and next. What do

994
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: you think, okay, was this? It would get us a

995
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: real defensive end. I mean, what do you what do

996
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: you want? Like a real like like Dante Fowler. You

997
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: want like a real defensive end, you know, or an

998
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: Armstrong or even a Sam Williams if there's that. I mean,

999
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: like you don't like this hybrid. Maybe he's the linebacker,

1000
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: maybe part time linebacker, part time in always a badass,

1001
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, Like I mean, I don't know about that, okay.

1002
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: But from a business standpoint, you know, guys get traded.

1003
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean, Khalil Mack got traded a couple of years ago.

1004
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: He got a lot for him. I mean, guys get

1005
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: traded for a lot of picks. And that's what the

1006
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: Cowboys have to decide if that's if that's the most

1007
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: important thing to get draft capital to not have to

1008
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: pay that big contract. See that's that right there, goes

1009
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: back to the caller before that says, why don't we

1010
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: have money in free agency? You know they're drafting too.

1011
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: What the problem is is that it's not really a problem.

1012
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: It's just a strategy. Some people are getting rid of

1013
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: certain players before they have to really pay them. They

1014
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: don't want those big contracts. They don't want to have

1015
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: to give out that kind of you know, actual money.

1016
00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: And that's not Ben Jerry's approach. Jerry thinks if he's

1017
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: got a guy like Micah Parsons, you need to keep him.

1018
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: And uh so that's why I don't see him being traded.

1019
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't remember the last time

1020
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys ever really done that. I mean, you can

1021
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: make the case, you can make the case for Mari Cooper,

1022
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: but Mari was not really young. I mean, he was

1023
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: still kind of in the middle of his career. And

1024
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: and you know that was one that and they didn't

1025
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: get a lot for him either. I got a fifth

1026
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: round pick. So but you know, as far as trading

1027
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: someone early before a really big contract like that, basically

1028
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: just giving up on him. And you know, I don't

1029
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that way. I mean, you don't usually

1030
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: go into the NFL and just dominate, you know, that

1031
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: just doesn't really happen. You don't see a lot of

1032
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: first team All pro as a rookie. What you do

1033
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: see a lot of are guys at any level, at

1034
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: any sport, at any job, that come into their profession

1035
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: at twenty one or twenty two, twenty three and they

1036
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 1: think they've got it all figured out. You know, they're

1037
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: they're good, and they know it and they've got it

1038
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: figured out, and they get humbled a little bit and

1039
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: they kind of understand, you know, how to act with

1040
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: around others and how to sort of grow up a

1041
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: little bit and and and there's a way to do

1042
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: this and do it well and also get along with everyone.

1043
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: That happens a lot in a lot of different jobs,

1044
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: in a lot of different areas and spaces. And so

1045
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: if you take the player that can dominate early and

1046
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: also the fact of maybe a guy that's going to

1047
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: grow up a little bit more, what kind of combination

1048
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: could you have there? And so what I'm really getting

1049
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: at here is that it's a lot. I think it's

1050
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: it's a lot more common to have a player that

1051
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: grows up right in front of you and can and

1052
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: can maybe not be as annoying as he is to

1053
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: certain fans. It's easier to find that person and for

1054
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: that to happen than to draft a guy that's dominating

1055
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: the NFL in year one. So you want your draft capital, sure,

1056
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: trade him for draft capital to try to duplicate that

1057
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: as well. I don't think Michael Parsons is a lost cause.

1058
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: I think his mentality is one where you know, he's

1059
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: he's arrogant. He's very confident in what he can do,

1060
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: and he should be. He's been really good from the start.

1061
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: I think he'll continue to grow in that area. Coupled

1062
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: with the fact that I think he'll he'll grow as

1063
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: a player as well, I'd rather have that guy for sure.

1064
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: So all right, Oh, by the way, for your Devin

1065
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 3: Hester question, Yeah, Cowboys picked Anthony and Fazano three picks

1066
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 3: ahead of him tight end. Yeah, that was the Bobby

1067
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 3: Carpenter draft two thousand and six. Yeah, so Carpenter in

1068
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: the first round, Fessano in the second, and then Hester

1069
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Speaker 3: went fifty seventh overall. I think fifty seventh over all

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Speaker 3: to Chicago Cowboys. Fifty three got Fessano, tight end out.

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Speaker 1: That's not gonna That wasn't gonna happen for a couple

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Speaker 1: of reasons. Yeah, it's easy to look back at this

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Speaker 1: now and be like, yeah, Hester, you know, a gold

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Speaker 1: jacket guy. Bill Parcells is not gonna draft Devin Hester

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Speaker 1: as a kick returner in the second round of a draft,

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Speaker 1: especially when he can take Anthony Fasano. And he probably

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Speaker 1: misspelled his name and spelled it Bivarro because that's what

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Speaker 1: he was hoping he was gonna get was a tight

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Speaker 1: end named Mark Bavarro who he had and was awesome

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Speaker 1: for him with the Giants, And he probably was just

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Speaker 1: and truth be told, and I know this, he was

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Speaker 1: hoping that Bobby Carpenter was his dad, Rob Carpenter, you know,

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Speaker 1: and he compared that that way. It was funny because

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, as the head coach for ten years, was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't compare players, you know, we don't compare players.

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Speaker 1: I don't compare anything, never compare the player. Well, he's

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Speaker 1: this guy sort of like him. He's like, I don't

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00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: compare players. Ourselves compared to everyone. He was like, that

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Speaker 1: guy is going to be like this guy, and you know,

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Speaker 1: until the media did it. And then when the media

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Speaker 1: did it and they said, you think DeMarcus Ware is

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Speaker 1: like Lawrence Taylor, He's like listen, Fellas, listen, No, no,

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Speaker 1: he's not. Now, let's just put him in Canton right now. Well,

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Speaker 1: we didn't put him in Canton right then, but when

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Speaker 1: now and fifteen years later they did, so it looked

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Speaker 1: like it was a good, good pick.

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Speaker 3: The funny thing about that that draft, by the way,

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Speaker 3: nick I went back down Cowboys picks in the fourth

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Speaker 3: round one twenty five overall Skyler Green, Skyler, You're right,

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Speaker 3: Skyler Green, and draft they wanted him to be like

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Speaker 3: returner Yep, yep, Skyler Green, lsu yes, right.

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Speaker 4: And he was small.

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Speaker 1: I remember him.

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Speaker 3: He was tiny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't remember him actually making the team, but

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Speaker 1: I mean I think he did. He might have made

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Speaker 1: the team, but he really didn't contribute much at all.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that six draft is not going to win

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Speaker 1: a war. It's for the best one. This is Parcell's

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Speaker 1: last draft. Carpenter Fossano, Jason Hatcher, Skyler Green, Pat Watkins,

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Speaker 1: Montavious Stanley, Pat mcchust. I mean, I mean Jason Hatcher

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Speaker 1: made a Pro Bowl. That's about. That's about it though,

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Speaker 1: from that six draft. So that was that was Bill's

1114
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Speaker 1: last one. The followed up. You know, we did a

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Speaker 1: documentary on the five class. We will not be doing

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Speaker 1: one on the six class. I could just tell you

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Speaker 1: that right now.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, the Derrek Ross situation where you're

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Speaker 3: talking about earlier two years, it was he was here

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Speaker 3: for two years. The Wikipedia is funny. It says he

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Speaker 3: was released after he missed a team session and a

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Speaker 3: mandatory charity related hospital visit.

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Speaker 1: M That's what I said, Yeah, don't be missing the

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Speaker 1: hospital visits and then you'll be doing that.

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Speaker 3: The New Orleans claimed him like a year later off

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Speaker 3: waivers after a Landa released him, and he was he

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Speaker 3: was The wave was pulled the next day because he

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Speaker 3: missed the flight to New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: M okay, I mean, I think there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of people missing their flight out of New Orleans. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say, you miss it, yeah, usually usually you'll

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Speaker 1: drive yourself to New Orleans, but yeah, you don't miss

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Speaker 1: it going out. Yeah, all right, I see a theme

1134
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Speaker 1: happening there with Derrick Ross's career, you know, missing he

1135
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: was missing some things, but talented player and he went

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Speaker 1: and drafted in the third round. He was a really

1137
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Speaker 1: good player at Ohio State. I think they won the

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Speaker 1: national championship the year before. They were always competing for it.

1139
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: So a really great player on that team. For him

1140
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: to go in the third round, there was obviously some

1141
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: character issues or any kind of concerns and they ended

1142
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Speaker 1: up kind of playing out in his career. So but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love the blast from the past guys like that.

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Speaker 1: So all right, well, this has been a this has

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Speaker 1: been a show for for sure. We've had to piece

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Speaker 1: this one together. Appreciate the fans calling in. It will

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Speaker 1: definitely you'll you'll be definitely be seeing it on the

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Speaker 1: on all of our platforms later on today. So I

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Speaker 1: want to thank Chris being for doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: work to kind of get this happen. Will be hopefully

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Speaker 1: back to normal next Tuesday, and we'll have a live

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Speaker 1: show next Tuesday for sure. So for Chris, I'm Nick Eatman.

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Speaker 1: We'll see next week on Cowboys Storyline.

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