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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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Speaker 1: by my partner in everything, Packers, Wes Hodkowitz. Coming to

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Speaker 1: you hear from our studios at Lambeufield and Wes. We

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Speaker 1: have a lot of ground to cover on this show

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Speaker 1: because it is Week two already in the NFL. It

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Speaker 1: is a short week for the Packers, so we kind

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Speaker 1: of have to cram two shows into one here, which

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Speaker 1: is to review week one in preview week two. So

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Speaker 1: we'll jump right into the twenty seven to thirteen victory

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Speaker 1: over the Lions at Lambeoufield to open the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five season. And when you talk about this game, I

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Speaker 1: think it starts with the performance by the Packers defense.

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Speaker 2: So this is a big game on Thursday night against

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Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders. Yes, it is, and we will obviously

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Speaker 2: get into that. We'll talk about it. Everyone's gonna want

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Speaker 2: to turn the page, take a moment to enjoy this

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Speaker 2: win for the Packers over the Detroit Lions, though, because

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Speaker 2: there were so many things in play here for Green Bay,

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Speaker 2: the fact that they did go one in five against

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Speaker 2: the NFC North last year, the fact that they have

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Speaker 2: had some troubles here in the past few seasons with

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Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions. But this game in particular, I thought,

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Speaker 2: and I think I wrote it. I can't remember if

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Speaker 2: I kept it in my inbox or not, but I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna say it now.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: One of the most impressive victories I think in the

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Speaker 2: post Aaron Rodgers era, the Jordan Love era, because Green Bay,

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Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball and special teams, but

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Speaker 2: on offense and defense, imposed its will against a team

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Speaker 2: that had been known for its physicality. If you look

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Speaker 2: at that defensive performance, as you outlined, everybody was questioning

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Speaker 2: whether or not they could stop the run withol Kenny Clark.

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Speaker 2: What was going to happen in that capacity? Detroit has

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Speaker 2: forty six rushing yards. People were wondering, Okay, what is

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Speaker 2: Michael Parson's going to bring to this place? In addition

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Speaker 2: to the fact that he had this overwhelming ovation at

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Speaker 2: the start of the football game, last guy out of

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Speaker 2: the tunnel, Michael Parsons comes in the game and gets

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Speaker 2: a pressure on his first snap. Every single one of

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Speaker 2: his plays was impactful. It affected the game in some

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Speaker 2: shape or fashion. But the three pressures, a two yard

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Speaker 2: checked down for a loss, a sack in an interception

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Speaker 2: for Evan Williams. I want to just make this real

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Speaker 2: quick point that you could take it wherever you want

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Speaker 2: to go. His chasing down of Jared Goff. I understand

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of haters out there from Dallas are

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Speaker 2: like what was in the fourth quarter of the game

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Speaker 2: is in hand. Him chasing down Jared Goff was a

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Speaker 2: moment more than it was just a play. That's the

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Speaker 2: type of thing that you make NFL films highlight reels

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Speaker 2: out of. And for Packer fans, the way they responded that,

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Speaker 2: the way the Packers sideline responded to it. Michael, this

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Speaker 2: was a very important game, seventeen more weeks, sixteen more games,

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Speaker 2: trying to win a Super Bowl here. But in terms

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Speaker 2: of making a first impression, by golly, the Micah Parsons

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm glad you mentioned those other plays before

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the sack that Parsons got, because his impact

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Speaker 1: on this game was undeniable, even though he technically didn't

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Speaker 1: until late in the ballgame. And I like what you

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Speaker 1: said as well about that sack, the chasing down of

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Speaker 1: golf being a moment because you and yes, you expected

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Speaker 1: the crowd to react that way. But when you look

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Speaker 1: at the replay of that, look at how that Packer's

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Speaker 1: time impact in that game, in his limited snaps, in

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Speaker 1: a part time role in this game. But every single

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Speaker 1: moment in his debut in Green Bay in front of

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Speaker 1: the home fans. It was important and for this defense collectively,

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Speaker 1: because this really was about the collective. It was shutting

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Speaker 1: was not allowing Jared Goff to even challenge the Packers

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff was just playing dink and dunkin check down

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Speaker 1: the entire game. He completed over thirty passes in the

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Speaker 1: game and barely got over two hundred yards. The collective,

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Speaker 1: I mean to hold, to hold the number one scoring

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Speaker 1: And you can't say enough. You can't say enough about

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Speaker 1: how the Packers' defense came to play in this ballgame.

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Speaker 2: No, it was immediate, and you know, I was talking

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Speaker 2: tell there's a chip on his shoulder, because yes, Michael

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Speaker 2: Parsons is a really good football player, one of the

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Speaker 2: very best defenders in this league. But Packers defense felt

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Speaker 2: like it was pretty good too, even before that trade

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Speaker 2: and whatever the outside noise was about, you know, how

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Speaker 2: this was going to affect their run game, or what

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Speaker 2: the domino effect was, or how the cornerbacks were going

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Speaker 2: feel like last year we just everybody took for granted

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Speaker 2: the fact that Jeff Haffley adapted so well to what

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Speaker 2: the circumstances were with injuries, with what the strengths were

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Speaker 2: change the chess board and ultimately have the defense they did.

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Speaker 2: But then you see a game like this and you

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Speaker 2: realize when they have more of those guys available, when

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Speaker 2: you have Lucas Vans in year three doing some inside

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Speaker 2: concepts passing downs. Rashaun Gary was exceptional in this game too,

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Speaker 2: creating some of his own plays and also showing at

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Speaker 2: I just there's a quote that Tuckerkraft said afterwards, because

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Speaker 2: we were talking about the magnitude of the victory and

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Speaker 2: he said, you know, I'd never beaten the Lions at Lambeufield. Michael,

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Speaker 2: there was a time where the Packers beat the Lions

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Speaker 2: twenty four straight years at lambeau Field. And there's a

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Speaker 2: new generation of Packer players that hadn't experienced that yet.

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Speaker 2: Because of the trajectory that the Lions had been on

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Speaker 2: hungry and there was a fire in their belly to

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Speaker 2: but defensively, after what the Lions did last season and

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Speaker 2: how efficient they were to completely rattle them and take

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Speaker 2: to really minimize the impact of amen Aros Saint Brown.

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Speaker 2: That was probably the most encouraging thing of all. It

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Speaker 2: hopefully make another playoff run. But this was a statement

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought Jared Goff never looked particularly comfortable in

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Speaker 1: I honestly thought when Micah Parsons was in the game,

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Speaker 1: dropping to where Parsons might have been coming from, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the pass rush. Those types of things are, you know,

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Speaker 1: such a switch from when the Packers faced the Lions

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Speaker 1: couple other things I really liked about this defensive effort

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Speaker 1: In van Ness and we saw Kolbe wouldn't have his

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Speaker 1: and it's tremendous to see that carry over right away

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Speaker 1: then Lucas Vanes this is this is a young man

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and in Parsons put a pretty lofty comparison out

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Speaker 2: there with with Vanas saying that he's told him that

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Speaker 2: And obviously that goes without saying I mean those are

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Speaker 2: referring to though, because this was the first game where

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Speaker 2: we got to really see Lucasfanass rushing inside in some

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Speaker 2: of these third down passing situations. They called the package Cheetah.

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Speaker 2: It has a lot of parallels to what Dom Capers

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Speaker 2: you're rushing, you're outside linebackers at the edges, but then

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Speaker 2: you're also having a third one inside at the three

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Speaker 2: tech position. And that's where Vanessa ended up getting his

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Speaker 2: he got here in fourteen, where those early downs he's outside,

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Speaker 2: And they had Mike Neil or Nick Perry at the

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Speaker 1: And we saw Mike Petton do it with Zadarius Smith

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Speaker 1: and all that. So it's certainly something we've seen before,

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Speaker 1: you know, really making the progress that the Packers are

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Speaker 1: hoping for. It looks really promising for number ninety out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it does, and you know, still twenty four and

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Speaker 2: still a lot in front of him right now. But

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Speaker 2: Green Bay has all these outside linebackers right now. Now we'll

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Speaker 2: have to see exactly what happens with Breton Cox junior.

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Speaker 2: He left with a groin injury, but Baron Sorel's coming

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Speaker 2: back from the neither six outside linebackers on this roster

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Speaker 2: and whips that ball out there too.

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Speaker 1: And we did all this talking about the defense, and

436
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Speaker 1: we barely mentioned Kway, Walker and Edger and Cooper who

437
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Speaker 1: were absolutely all over the field. I mean, it was

438
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Speaker 1: that was just fun to watch. I mean number seven,

439
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Speaker 1: number fifty six, those guys were flying around, they were

440
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: they were being kept clean by the guys in front

441
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Speaker 1: of him, but then they were also dodging the blockers.

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Speaker 1: I mean you could when when the Lions new center

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Speaker 1: at Graham Glasgow, he's, you know, he keeps trying to

444
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Speaker 1: get to the second level to block one of those

445
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Speaker 1: guys and they just they just go around him. They

446
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Speaker 1: make him miss. It was extremely frustrating for the Lions,

447
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Speaker 1: and uh and Cooper and Walker had a lot to

448
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Speaker 1: do with that. And then the guy who got the

449
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Speaker 1: new contract, the punter, Daniel Wheeland. I mean you could

450
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Speaker 1: hear the gasps in the crowd when he boomed those

451
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Speaker 1: couple of punts. I mean, my goodness. Now, obviously early

452
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Speaker 1: in the season when the weather is like that, we're

453
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Speaker 1: not surprised because we watched it all through training camp.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's what Wheeland looks like, certainly this time

455
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Speaker 1: of year. But but man, talk about walking out there

456
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Speaker 1: after signing your your brand new contract and showing what

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Speaker 1: you're worth.

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Speaker 2: He hits such a beautiful all too. It almost looks

459
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Speaker 2: like an Aaron Rodgers hail Mary Wait, that's I mean,

460
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 2: like the spin on it when he's really going at

461
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: for He's not Aussie styling it like when he's really

462
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Speaker 2: getting after it. There was that one where I mean

463
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: it flipped the entire field, and it's something when you

464
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Speaker 2: get a fourteen yard returned. I think Detroit had on that,

465
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Speaker 2: but he kicked it so far. I think the net

466
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: was still almost fifty yards just based on how far

467
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Speaker 2: he took it. Now, this is what green Bay's been

468
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Speaker 2: building towards. They saw what it looked like when they

469
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Speaker 2: don't have their kicker right, when they don't have their

470
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Speaker 2: long snapper right, when they don't have their punter right.

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Speaker 2: They've gone through all of those transitions here over the

472
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Speaker 2: last ten years, in some shape or form. They found

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Speaker 2: a battery now with Levado extended, Wheeling extended, and the.

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Speaker 1: Three year deal. Orsick Orsick I said, Rick Levado, why

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Speaker 1: did I say brain went back a handful of years there?

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Speaker 1: My friend was sorry, I had to correct you live

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Speaker 1: on the show here.

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Speaker 2: Rick Clevado goes past even my time with Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 2: Rick. I don't think he's in Philly anymore, but yeah, no,

481
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Speaker 2: I mean Matthew Orzech, Daniel Wheel and both of those

482
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Speaker 2: guys extended and Brandon McMahons getting the getting his own contract.

483
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Speaker 2: That group is together for the foreseeable future. And this

484
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Speaker 2: is a great example of what they're capable of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we do need to turn the page to

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Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders in week two and Thursday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: Back to Packers Unscripted West Week two Thursday Night Football

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field. It is Green Bay against Washington, yet

501
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Speaker 1: another twenty twenty four playoff team coming to Green Bay

502
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Speaker 1: to face the Packers, and this Washington team coming off

503
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Speaker 1: of a twenty one to six victory at home over

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants and their openers. So both both

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Speaker 1: the Packers and the Commanders are one and one. And

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Speaker 1: any discussion of Washington, of course, starts with the young

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Speaker 1: quarterback Jaden Daniels, the high draft pick out of LSU.

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Speaker 1: He led Washington all the way to the NFC Championship

509
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Speaker 1: Game a year ago, and you know he's the guy

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Speaker 1: everybody's gonna have their eyes on when that ball kicks

511
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Speaker 1: off on Thursday night. Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean his performance against the New York Giants really

513
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Speaker 2: showed again just the multitude of ways that he can

514
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Speaker 2: beat you and whether it is you know, with his feet,

515
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Speaker 2: with his arm. He's a complete football player. And there's

516
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Speaker 2: a reason why he had all the accolades that he

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Speaker 2: did his rookie season. I don't think anyone's going to

518
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Speaker 2: confuse the New York Giants with the juncture that they're

519
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Speaker 2: at right now, with where the Packers are at right

520
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Speaker 2: But that being said, Washington's going to be a team

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Speaker 2: that is going to stress Green Bay on both sides

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Speaker 2: of the ball. I thought Dan Campbell's defense had a

523
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Speaker 2: magnificent showing and again against the Giants in that game,

524
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Speaker 2: New York could not run the ball and Russell Wilson

525
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Speaker 2: we just got done talking about how Jared Goff basically

526
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Speaker 2: had to turn into just check downs and high percentage throws.

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Speaker 2: That was Russell Wilson for the entirety of that game

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Speaker 2: against Washington, just complete fits all over the place. Conversely,

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Speaker 2: Washington has a number of different running backs they can

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Speaker 2: turn to. Deebo Samuel now is in that offense and

531
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Speaker 2: was a featured target in that win over the Giants,

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Speaker 2: and Terry McLaurin with his new contract, you know, he's

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Speaker 2: the guy. So they've built this thing up around Jayden Daniel.

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Speaker 2: But the crazy thing about it is it's a very

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Speaker 2: old football team. They have a young quarterback and a

536
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Speaker 2: very veteran team around him. So it's an interesting little

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Speaker 2: paradox for where they're at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little bit different mix of offensive weapons

539
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Speaker 1: in year two here for Daniels, because Terry McLaurin is back,

540
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: they have tight end zach Ertz. They have kind of

541
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Speaker 1: the all purpose weapon in Austin Eckler out of the backfield.

542
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Speaker 1: But you mentioned Deebo Samuel is in the mix for

543
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Speaker 1: them now and he got a rushing touchdown off of

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Speaker 1: an end around against the Giants. And then a new

545
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Speaker 1: rookie running back Jacory Krossky merritt if I'm saying that correctly,

546
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Speaker 1: he's the guy they're now turning to with Brian Robinson

547
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Speaker 1: Junior having left the Commanders after last season, So it

548
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Speaker 1: is a different It is a different mix of guys

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Speaker 1: on offense. Defensively for dan Quinn, it starts with those

550
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Speaker 1: two linebackers Wagner and Louvu in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: Now Washington's Washington's run defense last year was a liability

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Speaker 1: for them for a good portion of the year. I

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Speaker 1: can't remember exactly where they ended up ranked. I know

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Speaker 1: it wasn't very high. It was toward the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the league if I remember correctly. But you said it

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Speaker 1: that they seem to have have, you know, fixed it

557
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Speaker 1: a little bit of their run defense. I think the

558
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: Packers will challenge that run defense a bit more with

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Speaker 1: with Josh Jacobs the Giants, you know, they just never

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Speaker 1: got anything going offensively, and and you know they're already

561
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: hollering in New York about you know, ending the Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson era and turning to the rookie Jackson Dart at

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Speaker 1: quarterback because because that performance was so frustrating. Whatever the

564
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Speaker 1: case might be there. But but this is what this

565
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Speaker 1: is a Washington team that was they were the they

566
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Speaker 1: were the playoff surprise, they were the underdog, the Cinderella

567
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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call him. Last year that uh,

568
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Speaker 1: that they were one of the last two standing in

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Speaker 1: the NFC before Philadelphia beat them and then went on

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Speaker 1: to win the whole thing. So this is this is

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Speaker 1: a Washington team now that's not gonna surprise anybody, and uh,

572
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Speaker 1: but it's a it's a team that believes in what

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn is doing and where they're going and uh

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Speaker 1: for you know, for Week two showdown, this is a

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Speaker 1: pretty big one here at Lambeau.

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Speaker 2: It's a huge showdown by all means. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Washington was thirtieth in.

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Speaker 1: Rushing, thirtieth and run defense last year.

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Speaker 2: So there's that information.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're welcome, happy to provide it. Yeah, I mean, well, okay,

582
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Speaker 2: so so many different ways to take this. First and foremost,

583
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Speaker 2: this is a Washington team that feels like it should

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Speaker 2: be competing for a Super Bowl this year. I think

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Speaker 2: they feel like they were really close last year. They

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00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: took a lot of people by surprise, but they almost

587
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Speaker 2: were kind of like the Packers in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: where I think when they got down the stretch and

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Speaker 2: you saw the type of quarterback Daniels was that they

590
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Speaker 2: could challenge right off the bat with the makeup of

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Speaker 2: that roster. Dan Quinn going in there, a guy with

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Speaker 2: a lot of pelts on the wall, somebody that had

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Speaker 2: a lot of success as a head coach in this

594
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Speaker 2: league kind of had to reinvent himself a little bit.

595
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Speaker 2: With a good defense in Dallas built around Micah Parsons yep.

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00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: For the last three years. In his case, all these

597
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: things have come into terms. But I think the secret sauce,

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00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: honestly for Washington was the fact that they got Cliff Kingsbury.

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Speaker 2: And Kingsbury it did not work out for him really

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Speaker 2: as a college head coach or the Arizona Cardinals head coach. Right,

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Speaker 2: but this is one of the premier offensive minds of

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Speaker 2: this game. Off of that Mike Leech coaching tree and

603
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: the air raid and everything that he does. It was

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Speaker 2: the perfect style of offense with Jayden Daniels. Now can

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Speaker 2: you build upon that? Can you take that next step?

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Speaker 2: That's the challenge for them this season. But it's an

607
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: exciting football team, and when you're talking about Thursday night football,

608
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Speaker 2: where it sometimes can just be roll the ball out

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Speaker 2: there and see how this thing looks. Yea, The Arizona

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Speaker 2: Cardinals are built for that kind of matchup. So part

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Speaker 2: of me is a little bit sad that it has

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Speaker 2: to be this way. I'm glad it's a primetime matchup.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's going to be able to chance to see it.

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Speaker 2: But this would have been a great Sunday night football,

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Speaker 2: Monday night football game, you know, when you get the

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Speaker 2: full preparation week Sometimes historically those Thursday night games have

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Speaker 2: been you know, a ten or fifteen win team against

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Speaker 2: a three win team. A lot of times, this is

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Speaker 2: a great matchup for Week two football, but there's just

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Speaker 2: so many variables to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, keys to victory for green Bay, for me

622
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Speaker 1: the best way I can crystallize it or sum it

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Speaker 1: up in my mind as I think the two keys

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Speaker 1: to victory are one thing that the Packers did really

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Speaker 1: well against Detroit and then one thing they would like

626
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Speaker 1: to do better. The one thing they did really well

627
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Speaker 1: against Detroit obviously was they just didn't allow any big plays,

628
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Speaker 1: and I think that has to continue against Washington. Now

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Speaker 1: there's a different way you have to do it because

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Speaker 1: of Jayden Daniels and his threat in terms of the

631
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Speaker 1: off schedule plays and being able to be able to run,

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Speaker 1: make plays out of the pocket, get you know, first

633
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Speaker 1: downs with his legs, all of that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 1: but keeping a lid on the big plays that'll work

635
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Speaker 1: against any team in this league and give you a

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Speaker 1: really good chance to win. And on the other side,

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Speaker 1: I was talking about Washington's run defense being you know,

638
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Speaker 1: struggling for them last year. I don't think the Giants

639
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: really challenged them in that regard, and the Packers did

640
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: get off to obviously a slow start with the running

641
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: game against the Lions because Detroit was really selling out

642
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Speaker 1: to stop the run. It would be great to see

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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs get going early this and and for Green

644
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Speaker 1: Bay to really establish that from the get go. So

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Speaker 1: those are the two things that jump out at me

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Speaker 1: as far as keys to victory.

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Speaker 2: I thought one of the things we didn't talk about

648
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Speaker 2: in the first segment, but it's gonna be very important

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Speaker 2: for Green Bay this season is giving Jordan Love the

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Speaker 2: amount of time in which he had to work with

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Speaker 2: on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the pass protection. It wasn't just the running backs

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Speaker 1: that we were talking about. The pass protection for Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love on Sunday against the Lions was absolutely outstanding. You

655
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Speaker 1: could he was. He was bouncing on both feet there

656
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Speaker 1: in the pocket, surveying the field on a number of

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Speaker 1: throws and uh and yeah, you'd love for that to continue.

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Speaker 2: If the tongue's out and he's bouncing in the pocket,

659
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Speaker 2: good things are gonna.

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Speaker 1: Happen, Yeah for the Packers.

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Speaker 2: But the reason I bring that up, Tucker Craft was

662
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Speaker 2: saying after the game, I mean, there are some good

663
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Speaker 2: pass rushers for Washington. They may not have that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Micah Parsons type guy. I mean, obviously von Miller has

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Speaker 2: the name, but I mean he's an older player now,

666
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Speaker 2: but you know, you look at like Frankie Luvu. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is one of the great stories in the National

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Speaker 2: Football League. A guy that was an undrafted free agent

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Speaker 2: that had kind of his way up the depth chart

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Speaker 2: and then finally becomes a second team All Pro in

671
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Speaker 2: Washington and now is becoming one of their faces of

672
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Speaker 2: that franchise. We'll have to see, as you talked about

673
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Speaker 2: early on, what this offensive line looks like for Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: If you don't have Zach Tom available here on this

675
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Speaker 2: short week, that is a significant loss. He's arguably the

676
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Speaker 2: best right tackle in the game right now. Just watch

677
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: the film of when he was on the field last

678
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Speaker 2: week against Detroit and what he was doing, shutting down,

679
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: shutting down Hutchinson and company. If he's not out there,

680
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Speaker 2: now you have a guy potentially in Darien Kinard who's

681
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: been here sort of like Malik Willis.

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Speaker 1: Last year to hear a couple weeks, a matter of weeks.

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Speaker 2: That potentially could be in that spot, or Anthony Belton.

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Speaker 2: However they sorted out be that as it made. There's

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Speaker 2: a reason why Zach Tom got the contract that he did,

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Speaker 2: and for as much rotation as they've done with Jordan Morgan,

687
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Speaker 2: most of it's been at the guard spots and left tackle,

688
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Speaker 2: so That's the one thing to watch in this matchup

689
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Speaker 2: is if Green Bay can give Jordan Love that type

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Speaker 2: of pocket to work with again. Last week it showed

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Speaker 2: what he can do with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. Well, I wish we had

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Speaker 1: more time to talk about the other results in Week one.

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Speaker 1: I'll just throw a couple of things out there, and

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Speaker 1: if you want to say something, you can. Otherwise we

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Speaker 1: can make life easier on our producer, Hannah and get

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Speaker 1: the heck out of here.

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Speaker 2: But I got a couple of things to say. Hand,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, wherever you're at. I'm sorry, Hanna. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk for a minute.

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Speaker 1: But we saw we saw a couple of quite frankly

702
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Speaker 1: ridiculous comebacks with the Buffalo Bills coming back to beat

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday Night Football and then the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings in Chicago coming back to beat the Bears.

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Speaker 1: I will just say this that those games are a

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Speaker 1: reminder of how important it is to be able to

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Speaker 1: finish a game in this league. The Baltimore Ravens, they

708
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Speaker 1: dominated the Buffalo Bills for three and a half quarters

709
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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, they couldn't finish the deal. And the Chicago

710
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: Bears were playing at home with their new head coach

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Speaker 1: in the first game and all this, and they dominated

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings for three quarters, but they couldn't put

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Speaker 1: them away. They couldn't finish the deal, and they're just

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Speaker 1: there isn't that much of a difference in talent inability

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Speaker 1: in most of the teams in this league. If you

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Speaker 1: are not able to put somebody away, they will take

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Speaker 1: you to the wire, yep. And anybody that can take

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Speaker 1: you to the wire can beat you. And we saw

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Speaker 1: that happen in both of those primetime games. The last

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Speaker 1: couple nights.

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Speaker 2: You and I have talked ad nauseam about the Bills

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Speaker 2: and Ravens. We previewed it last week and certainly added

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Speaker 2: some really unique anecdotes and factoids with that victory and

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Speaker 2: that comeback fashion that the Bills had.

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Speaker 1: Crazy.

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Speaker 2: But what I want to focus on is the Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Vikings because I thought JJ McCarthy showed something the second half.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's no doubt he did.

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Speaker 2: There was a point in that game, Michael, where they

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Speaker 2: had negative yet net passing yardage. There was a stat

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Speaker 2: that people were throwing out there that if you'd have

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Speaker 2: just dirted the ball every single time, they would have

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Speaker 2: had more passing yardage than what they had.

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Speaker 1: Through the first two quarters.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was the young man responded, and it's

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Speaker 2: always interesting when you see guys who are trying to

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Speaker 2: learn on the fly, which is what the Vikings are

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Speaker 2: committed to this season with McCarthy. He made the adjustments

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Speaker 2: and you can see why this guy has been a

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Speaker 2: winner at every level that he's played. This game and

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears, to your point, gave them way too

742
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 2: much breathing room in addition to compounding some errors at

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Speaker 2: the end. The Minnesota Vikings showed why they were a

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Speaker 2: team that surprised a lot of people last year. While

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Speaker 2: I felt like a lot of the window dressing has

746
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Speaker 2: changed in Chicago, they still found a way to lose

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Speaker 2: a game in a similar fashion to the Matt Aberflus era.

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Speaker 1: If that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely. I mean I saw

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Speaker 1: a statistic that the Bears have now lost four games

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Speaker 1: in the last four years in which they had a

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00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: double digit lead in the fourth quarter. It's it's got

752
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: to be incredibly frustrating for their fans and that game,

753
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: that game last night, there is not a soul in

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Speaker 1: America who thought at the end of the third quarter

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Speaker 1: that the Bears, especially playing at home, that they were

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Speaker 1: gonna let that one get away with their new head

757
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: coach in his first game, and they did. You have

758
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: to be able to finish games in this league. That's

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00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: why you know Packers are up seventeen to six for

760
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: seauan Gary getting a sack by the goal line and

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00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: then the offense taking the good field position pounding the

762
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Speaker 1: ball into the end zone. That's how you finish a

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Speaker 1: team off in this league. And neither neither the Ravens

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Speaker 1: nor the Bears were able to do that. It made

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Speaker 1: for some incredibly entertaining football, but a couple of pretty incredible,

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Speaker 1: gut punch losses for a couple of teams to start

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Speaker 1: their season.

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Speaker 2: And if I may say this too, we didn't get

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Speaker 2: a chance to watch it because of us getting ready

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Speaker 2: for our own game, but I did go back and

771
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Speaker 2: watch a lot of the clips of the Steelers Jets matchup.

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Speaker 2: He's not the old Gunslinger, but he is the old

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Speaker 2: General and Aaron Rodgers put on a vintage performance in

774
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Speaker 2: that many years ago. When people were asking me about

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Speaker 2: Rogers playing into his forties. I remember saying the twenty

776
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Speaker 2: fourteen season the end of it, even though obviously everyone

777
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: thinks about how it ended. The way that Rogers had

778
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: to play with the CAF injury is what gave me

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Speaker 2: confidence that he was going to be able to play

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Speaker 2: deep into his career because when he was stationary in

781
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Speaker 2: the pocket, he could still operate. Not the same type

782
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: of player, but he could still operate in a lot

783
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Speaker 2: of ways that most quarterbacks can't. He was cerebral in

784
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: this game, and he maximized the talent of the playmakers

785
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Speaker 2: around him. And when you look at Aaron Rodgers' history,

786
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Speaker 2: that's what he's known for now. Obviously he was going

787
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Speaker 2: to be motivated going back into that stadium facing that opponent,

788
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Speaker 2: But it gave me a feeling again that this guy

789
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Speaker 2: still has something left in the basement.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. And I'll say one last thing on

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Speaker 1: Week one two, it was a reminder for everyone out

792
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Speaker 1: there how important it is to have a kicker in

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Speaker 1: this lee. Yeah, because Cleveland's young kicker, that five million

794
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: dollar kicker in Atlanta, and then you look at Chris

795
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Speaker 1: Boswell the Pittsburgh Do you hear what Mike Tomlin said

796
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: about him after called him a serial killer, said he's

797
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: got he's got the low pulse rate of a serial killer.

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Speaker 1: Sixty yarder on the road to get Aaron Rodgers. That

799
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Speaker 1: that victory, Man, I tell you there's there is there is.

800
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Speaker 1: There is no overstating the value of a clutch, reliable

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Speaker 1: kicker in this league.

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Speaker 2: And Boswell to do that at this juncture his career too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean he is not a young kicker now, he's

804
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Speaker 2: been in Pittsburgh a long time.

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Speaker 1: Well, and and and even just uh, I mean Minnesota's

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Speaker 1: kicker hitting that fifty nine yard er at the end

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Speaker 1: of the first half when the Vikings had nothing going

808
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: for him, those three points turned out to be pretty big,

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00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: and McCarthy even mentioned after the game. JJ McCarthy of

810
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Speaker 1: course that the pass that he hit to set up

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Speaker 1: the long you'll go right at the end of the

812
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: first half, he felt that was the play that kind

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Speaker 1: of got him going. He went into the locker room

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Speaker 1: feeling like, yeah, all right, I can do this, you know,

815
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Speaker 1: we can win this game kind of thing. And if

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Speaker 1: will Record misses that fifty nine yarder at the end

817
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Speaker 1: of the first half, who knows where the Vikings heads

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Speaker 1: are as they go into the locker room, they get

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Speaker 1: Soldier Field.

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Speaker 2: So and then look at Matt Prater too. Right, it's right,

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Speaker 2: he didn't have to make a fifty nine yard or

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Speaker 2: any of those. But I mean, this is a guy

823
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Speaker 2: that had to come in last minute, forty one years old,

824
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: kind of got tossed to the side by Arizona and

825
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Speaker 2: still making things happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he has to fill in for Tyler Bass in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo and then he gets carried off the field by

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Speaker 1: his teammates pretty so yeah. Wow what a week one

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Speaker 1: and week two is already upon us. Packers and Commanders

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Speaker 1: on Thursday Night football at lambeau Field. We got to

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Speaker 1: sign off on this edition of Packers Unscripted, but be

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Speaker 1: sure to continue to follow all of our coverage of

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Speaker 1: the team and everything from the big game against Washington.

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Speaker 1: We'll have a four you on Packers dot com for

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Speaker 1: Westside Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will

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Speaker 1: see you next time.