1 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Favor Production of iHeart Radio. I'm 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Annie Reese and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum. And today we have 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: an episode for you about Dippin Dots. Yes, yes, it's 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: very interesting. A lot of paths we've got to explore 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: with this one. Oh yeah, I was. I was so 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: psyched to do this reading I Actually we've had We've 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: had a lot of really fun ones recently. Um. I 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: was more tickled by that Nutritional Label episode than than 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: I really thought I would be. And I knew that 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: I would be tickled by it. So yeah, and this 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: one's really really interesting. Um. And yeah, not a sponsor, 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: just by ipe, we were just interested in it. Um 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: I did. I loved dippin Dots as a kid. I 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: don't think I had it very often because it wasn't 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: when I was growing up. It was very relegated to 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: theme parks and in Mikey's, particularly water parks, which where 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: I got it, and my local theater did sell it 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: when I got older. Um, but yeah, I usually got 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: it at water parks and chocolate was my favorite flavor 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: and my best friend who are parents, got a season 21 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: passed to a local water park one so we went 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: like a yeah. And it's really funny because one time 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: they made us go after Harry Potter and the Order 24 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: of the Phoenix came out and we had finished the 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: book the night before and we were just so upset. 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out why we were like PiZZ But 27 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: she loved the rainbow flavor. She loved I would always 28 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: get chocolate, She would always get rainbow shubert Um. But 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: it's been on my mind recently because there have been 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: a couple of news stories about explosions at the Dippon 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: Dutt factory Dippon Dot's I guess the manufacturing center. Um. 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: No one was seriously injured, and I was just like, 33 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: what's going on, Yeah, yeah, yes, uh yeah yeah, there 34 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: have been a few news stories lately. Um. I. I 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: also enjoyed them when I was a kid. My first 36 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: experience with them was that they had a kiosk at 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: my local mall um in South Florida, and that's that 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: is where I encountered them, and I was like, this 39 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: is bizarre and wonderful and I want it all the time. 40 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I think I think Neapolitan was my 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: solid choice. I really liked the way they melted. I 42 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: liked the way that, like a spoonful, they would all 43 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: be these like separate beads and then you put them 44 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: in your mouth and the heat of your mouth would 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: melt them in a really interesting way. That was like, 46 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: That's what I really liked about it. But yeah, we're 47 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: going to get into all the science, interesting science around that. 48 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: But you can see our space Foods episode and our 49 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: freeze during episode for a bit more. Also, I guess 50 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: gelato and I maybe um, definitely frozen food. You know, 51 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: they're sure a bunch of avenues to explore. There's overlapping concepts. Yes, yes, 52 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: but I guess this brings us too hot. Question. Dippin 53 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: Dots What is it? Well? Uh, Dipping Dots is a 54 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: brand of ice cream treats consisting of of not a 55 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: continuous mass of churned frozen liquid, which is what ice 56 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: cream is, but but rather small, discrete beads of frozen liquid. 57 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: It's a it's like it's like eating a frozen ballpit 58 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: without the threat of pink. I well, that's awesome. Anytime 59 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: my food doesn't threaten me with pink, I'm pretty excited. Yeah, 60 00:03:54,040 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: me too, so so so what you do to you 61 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: create it is um. You create your ice cream mixture, 62 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, milk, cream, sugar, texturizers and emulsifiers, flavorings, etcetera. 63 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: And then you take that that liquid and you drip 64 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: it into a chamber that you're holding at around negative 65 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty degrees fahrenheit UM. That's negative hundred 66 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: and nine celsius, although really at that point that means 67 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: cold quite cold, not warm UM. And you're cooling that 68 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: chamber using using liquid nitrogen UM. And as each drop 69 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: enters the chamber, it instantly freezes into a rough sphere 70 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: like a like a solid bead around a half a 71 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: centimeter maybe a quarter inch in a in diameter. And 72 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: then those solid beads are moved into freezers kept just 73 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: cold enough to UM to keep the bead stable, which 74 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: is around negative forty fahrenheit, which is also negative forty 75 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: celsius for science reasons that still confuse me to this day. 76 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: Me as well, me as well, great UM and yeah, 77 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: so the result is, uh, these round pellets of like 78 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: dense ice cream that have a little bit of a 79 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: crunch in your mouth and almost like a tingle of 80 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: cold like almost like a like a cold burn. UM. 81 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: I guess it is a cold burn. That's literally what 82 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: it is. Uh and uh and then they melt into 83 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: right like just a creamy liquid. Um. They don't have 84 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: the flufferru chew of most ice creams. It's a really 85 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: fun and novel texture. Yes that yeah, that, like I 86 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: was saying, that's what I really liked about it. Um. Also, 87 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: that process sounds really cool. And no, I'm mad I 88 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: didn't look up any videos of it. Oh it's really great. 89 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: Yes uh yeah, yeah, yeah there's I think I found one. 90 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: I'll try to remember to link it um to you 91 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: and to y'all listeners. Um. But yeah, So okay, once 92 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: you've got these little discrete ice cream pellets, you have 93 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: to keep them that cold throughout quality assurance and packaging 94 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: and shipping and sale and right. Although originally they were 95 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: a theme park and mall booth food that would be 96 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: hand scooped um, they can now be found in all 97 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: kinds of event spaces and in grocery stores as well, 98 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: in little individual serving containers and right. This involves a 99 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: lot of science um, because okay, the easiest way to 100 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: keep things this cold on the go is dry ice, 101 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: which is not water ice at all. It's carbon dioxide 102 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: gas that's been pressurized and super cooled into a liquid 103 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: state below the temperature at which it would normally be 104 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: a solid, and then carefully allowed to warm up and crystallize. 105 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: And it does this at negative a nine degrees fahrenheit UM, 106 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: which is negative seventy celsius. Yeah. Yeah, So to use it, 107 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: you've got to be careful, um, because it is cold 108 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: enough that it will burn you. It will give you 109 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: frost bite if you touch it with your bear skin. Um. 110 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: And as it warms up, because it's not made of water, 111 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't melt into a mostly harmless puddle like water 112 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: ice does. Um, it turns back into carbon dioxide gas, 113 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: which we cannot breathe or I mean we can, but 114 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: we cannot live on it if we breathe it. So 115 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: like if you're not properly ventilating, it can displace the 116 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: normal air around you and you can suffocate. Um. Their 117 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: scoopers have special training. It's a whole thing. Wow. I 118 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: mean the special training is basically like, don't breathe the fumes. 119 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: But still but still yeah and yeah yeah. The company 120 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: Dip and Dots has a number of flavors. At any 121 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: given time. Right now, the ones that you can buy 122 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: online and have shipped to you our birthday cake, chocolate chip, 123 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: cookie dough, yes with bits of cookie dough in it, 124 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: Chocolate Annie's Favorite cookies, and cream which is co branded 125 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: with Oreos. It includes Little Oreo Bits, Cotton Candy, Ultimate 126 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: Brownie Batter, and rainbow ice which he has like a sherbet, 127 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: like a mix of fruit flavors, being strawberry, orange, lemon, lime, 128 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: and blue raspberry. I'm not totally sure what's in store 129 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: is right now. That's harder to track down, um, except 130 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: that they definitely have a banana split flavor and a 131 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: strawberry flavor. And also they're doing some co branding with 132 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: pot Patrol, and y'all, I don't have children. I don't, 133 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: I've never The only reason that I know what this 134 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: is because of the sheer number of companies doing co 135 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: branding with this media property, and it is all of them. 136 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: I feel like every single branded company that we research 137 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: is working with pot Patrol. Yes. Uh, same for me. 138 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: I have friends with kids have told me about it, 139 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: and then I just have seen like a bunch of 140 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: comedians making jokes about it who have kids. So I 141 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: understand that it is a big deal, uh for people 142 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: with kids and for kids, yes, okay, but what about 143 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: the nutrition. It's about average for ice cream. Um, so 144 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: you know it's a it's it's calorically dense with some 145 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: fats and sugars, but low on protein and five or so. 146 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: It will fill you up but won't really keep you going. 147 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: And it falls into the treat category. Treats are nice. 148 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: Treats are nice. Um, And it seems people like like 149 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: this specific treat because we have numbers for you. Um. 150 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: There are somewhere around twelve thousand Dippin Dots locations around 151 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: the US, and around one hundred million servings of dots 152 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: over nine countries are consumed each year. And yes, it 153 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: does trip me up every time they use dots, but 154 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's accurate. I get what they're saying. Um. 155 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: At its peak in two thousand and six, Dippin Dots 156 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: is averaging forty seven million dollars in sales. However, just 157 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: six years later the company filed for bankruptcy, and then 158 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: they would bounce back a few years later. And we're 159 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: gonna talk more about all of that in history section. 160 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: As nearly one thousand grocery stores had specialty forty degrees 161 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: below fahrenheit freezers capable of preserving Dippen Dots goodness. Um, 162 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Meanwhile, they're They're first factory was just a 163 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: twenty four ft that's around seven point three square in 164 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: floor space. So so you've you've, you've, You've come a 165 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: long way Dippin Dots. You've come a long way, kid. 166 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: According to Thrillists, there are about two thousand dots of 167 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: ice cream and a five ounce serving. I know. The 168 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: company set the Guinness World Record for most ice cream 169 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: prepared by a team in three minutes. Again very specific, 170 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: but yes, the five person team churned out four and 171 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: seventy three cups of ice cream. This was somewhat of 172 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: a stunt for the thirtieth anniversary of National ice Cream Month, 173 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: not specifically Dipping Dots nasional ice cream cool uh. As 174 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: of um, the brand had thirty five flavors, with the 175 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: most popular being that cookies and cream with oreos in it. Yes, 176 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: and if you're at a loss for what flavor you want, 177 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: there is quite a silly Dipping Dots personality quiz to 178 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: find the perfect flavor for you, which, yes, I took. 179 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: Uh and I will say the quizmakers seem to think 180 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: we're all emotional jerks. What okay? Every question would be like, 181 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: I think the one that's off quoted is you see 182 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: your crush at the mall with someone else? What do 183 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: you think? One of them is like, you know, kind 184 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: of what I would assume the average person would think 185 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: is I'm going to leave them alone, not really assume anything. 186 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: The rest of them were like throw my drink in 187 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: their faces or until they leave. And I was like, 188 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: I hope this is not what our society is breaking 189 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: out into. Um. But anyway, I did take it, because 190 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: of course I did. I got Strawberry with this message tolerant, thoughtful, devoted. Ah, 191 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: sweet Strawberry, you are the bestest, best friend ever. Give 192 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: others the benefit of the doubt. No matter how things 193 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: might appear. Things might not always go your way, but 194 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: you know that it will all work out in the end. 195 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I feel so good about myself. 196 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: But then I read it over people get strap because 197 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: I think we're all not actually emotional. Well, uh, well, 198 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: either um they need to retool their quiz for a 199 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: more accurate experience UM across the population, or you know, 200 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: maybe we can all just revel in being Strawberry's being strawberry, 201 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: even though I preferred chocolate. Uh well, the history behind 202 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: this one is really really fascinating. Yes, and we are 203 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: going to get into that history right after we get 204 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: back from a quick break for a word from our 205 00:12:52,280 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: sponsor and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you 206 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: so Yes. The history of frozen desserts goes way back. Um. 207 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: Humans have long enjoyed cool treats, and over time and 208 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: with the development of things like refrigeration, these treats went 209 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: from being expensive luxuries to widely available food items. Again, 210 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: you can go back to our episodes on ice and 211 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: gelato specifically to learn more about that. But okay, Dippin' 212 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: dots specifically were the invention of microbiologist Kurt Jones, and 213 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: uh he wanted to create something fun and new using 214 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: his knowledge of cryotechnology. Yeah yeah. At this time, things 215 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: like astronaut ice cream, which they are very clear is 216 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: different than what dippin dots is. But things like astronot 217 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: ice cream were really trendy and successful, so Jones wanted 218 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: to ride on that wave as well. And at the 219 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: time he was working with flash freezing yogurt bacteria as 220 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: an alternative antibiotic for animal feed, and he started wondering 221 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: what other products could he freeze this way? Okay, So 222 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: the thing, the thing with freezing things, which right, yeah, 223 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: we talked about in UM in a couple other episodes. 224 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: UM is that is that different molecules freeze at different temperatures. UM, 225 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: and water freezes it fairly warm temperatures compared with stuff 226 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: like fats and proteins. And furthermore, UM water is weird 227 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: in that it expands when it freezes, forming up into 228 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: these large sharp crystals of ice and UM. And this 229 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: is important like on the planet Earth, for a bunch 230 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: of reasons, UM, but it's a pain in a bunch 231 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: of specific applications. For example, UM, let's say you're trying 232 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: to freeze a food like a like a lovely juicy 233 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, like crisp, but just ripe summer tomato because 234 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: you want to eat it later. You've got too many 235 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: because your tomato plant is doing so fabulous lee Um. 236 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: Freezing it is going to be difficult because as the 237 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: ice crystals form within it, they poke holes in the 238 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: membranes within the tomatoes. So when you thought instead of 239 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: like crisp and delightful, it's just a bag of mush. 240 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: Oh not as good, not as not as yeah um. 241 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: And the same goes for like bacteria and other stuff 242 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: that you don't want to lose the cellular integrity of 243 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: okay so um. So this this concept of figuring out 244 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: how to prevent that is the basis of cryogenics, um, 245 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: and also why some interestingly mistaken people have been really 246 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: interested in cryonics a k a. Freezing people at or 247 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: before death for reviving later. Right, yeah, which I was 248 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: thinking of, Oh sure, yeah, important separation between cryogenics in 249 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: general and cryonics which is specific yes, okay, so um. 250 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: The idea here is that if you can freeze something 251 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: really fast to really cold temperatures, you don't give water 252 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: ice the time to form up into these big pokey crystals. 253 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: And right, you can do this using liquid nitrogen because 254 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: it is so dang cold. Mm hmm. The special thing 255 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: that Jones was doing here is that he had developed 256 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: a process to peleticize the liquids that he was freezing. Um. 257 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,479 Speaker 1: You know. He he would grow colonies of the bacterial 258 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: cultures that he was working with in a liquid medium 259 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: and then freeze drive them into a powder. But discovered 260 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: um that instead of doing that, but by dripping the 261 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: liquid into the freezing chamber, it would form these pellets 262 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: that a maintained the structural integrity of the bacteria and 263 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: b didn't melt as quickly as a frozen powder would. Um. 264 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: And thus we're c really easy to work with. Um. 265 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: It's like a a freeze dried liquid that you can 266 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: scoop as easily as kibble or coffee beans. Yes. Um. 267 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: So the story goes that when Jones was explaining how 268 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: this whole process worked to his family or possibly making 269 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: ice cream with a neighbor, um, it suddenly occurred to 270 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: him that he could use the same process to make 271 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: a beaded ice cream. He had grown up on a 272 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: far making his own, but he never liked the icy 273 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: texture and wished that they could freeze it more quickly 274 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: to eliminate that. Which I think we all know what 275 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: he's talking about there, especially older ice cream. Oh yeah, 276 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: especially right right when you take a carton out of 277 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: the freezer and then put it back in or um 278 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: during you know, and any any home freezer is going 279 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: to go through slight temperature cycles. UM. And so so yeah, 280 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: as that happens, you start to develop these larger, pokey 281 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: ice crystals that aren't aren't his fun mm hmm, and yes, 282 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: the idea was to use liquid nitrogen to instantly and 283 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: quickly freeze the ice cream, which resulted in dense, small 284 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: beads of ice cream that had less air incorporated into 285 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: them than traditional ice cream and took longer to melt. Yeah, 286 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: and that you know, if you can keep them cold enough, 287 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: would stay fresher longer. Yes. So Jones did a few 288 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: tests out of his parents basement at first UM and 289 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: surveyed a few friends to really nail down the process, 290 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: to taste the texture um, and also to come up 291 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 1: with the name before he and his wife Kay opened 292 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: the first Dippin Dots store and Lexington, Kentucky, and they 293 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: offered chocolate, vanilla, Neapolitan, strawberry, peanut butter, and strawberry cheesecake 294 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: yogurt varieties. Their very first machine could create some four 295 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: gallons of Dippin' dots per hour yep. But however, the 296 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: shop didn't get a lot of customers and it ended 297 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: up closing in less than a year. There are a 298 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: lot of really cool archival photos though that you can go. Yeah. Um. 299 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: They didn't completely give up on the idea though, and 300 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: in another family member suggested that they take Dippin Dots 301 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: to a theme park and Nashville, Tennessee Operyville, which I 302 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: believe is still closed, um, and that they do this 303 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: on a ven ding bike where they had some success 304 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: but they barely broke even Yeah, opper Land, Yeah, op 305 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: your Land was like, okay, like you can you can 306 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: come try and sell this if you can come with 307 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: a hundred gallons a day. Oh they were They were 308 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: convinced that this was the way. But but but but right, Yeah, 309 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: sales were still rough. Yeah. Things really turned around when 310 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: the Joneses came up with their new slogan ice Cream 311 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: of the Future, which would later become also a running joke, 312 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: easy joke to make. Um, And they have been using 313 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: some similar versions of that slogan before that, because I 314 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: think even in their first those pictures I was talking about, 315 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: you can see like I think it said ice cream 316 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: and yogurt of the future. Okay, sure, but I guess 317 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: they really went in on it and kind of honed it. Um. 318 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: And just a year later, Dippin' Dots set up a 319 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: shop in the Kennedy Space Center, and people were waiting 320 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: in lines to try it. The product grew in popularity 321 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: from there, opening franchises and amusement parks, malls and stadiums, 322 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: and gaining an extremely passionate fan base. The flavor options 323 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: grew too, with up to thirty to choose from, with 324 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: favorites being rainbow ice cookies and cream, banana split, and 325 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: chocolate chip cookie dough. Dippin Dots expanded in the late 326 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: eighties and early nineties, often setting up at places like 327 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: these Like these amusement parks are similar festival like spaces. 328 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: The company went international when it opened a shop in Japan. 329 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: In n they filed a lawsuit against a competitor called 330 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: Many Melts over patent infringement um and Many Melts was 331 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: actually started by two brothers who used to work as 332 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: distributors for Dippin' Dots. But anyway, the judge in the 333 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: case ended up ruling that not only was there no 334 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: patent infringement, they had and even gotten the pattern correctly 335 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: and it was invalid. Off Yeah, I would I understand. 336 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: The judge is basically like, you can't patent how to 337 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: make ice cream and you didn't so y snap, all right. Um. Nonetheless, 338 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: they were still expanding around two and we're offering some 339 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: new confections that year, like a like dots and Cream, 340 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: which I'm pretty sure is a type of churned ice 341 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: cream that contains dipping dots mixed into it. I'm not 342 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: entirely sure how that works from a serving perspective, but 343 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: I like the idea, and uh and Fridgets, which were 344 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 1: dots individually covered in hard chocolate shell. My brain got 345 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: caught up on a lot of things in that sentence. 346 00:21:54,240 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: Fridge its fridge, its hard shell. Okay yeah. Um. However, 347 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: despite these spinoffs, things weren't going so so great. Um so. 348 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: After filing for bankruptcy in two thousand eleven with an 349 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: estimated twelve million dollars in liabilities that was reported on 350 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: with headlines like the future is Dead, Dippin' Dots was 351 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: purchased for twelve point seven million dollars by Fisher Enterprises 352 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: in two thousand twelve, and they expanded into even more venues, 353 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: including in malls, often alongside their sister franchise, Doc Popcorn. 354 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: The president of the company at the time, Scott Fisher, 355 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: said of the purchase, we are committed to ensuring that Dippin' 356 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: Dots or claims its status not as a novelty of 357 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: the past, but as an ice cream of the future, 358 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: the ice cream in the future. Yes, definite article. Yeah, 359 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: excuse me. However, due to the pandemic, many Dippin' Dots 360 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: locations have closed and the company has laid off employees. 361 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: The company does ship directly to customers using dry eyes 362 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: to keep the product cold enough. I believe the small 363 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: size you can get is thirty servings worth. Um, so 364 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: a lot. And also most freezers aren't gold enough to 365 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: preserve dipping dots, so you have to eat them pretty 366 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: much immediately, so it's like a dippin Dots party, I guess, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. 367 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: Your your home freezer probably doesn't go much below freezing, 368 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: like like just just the freezing point of water. That's 369 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: more or less where they stop. So, um, that is 370 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: a solid forty degrees fahrenheit above what a dipping dot 371 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: needs to to stay a dot. Yes, yes, let the 372 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: dippin dot stay dots. Um tones left dippin dots in 373 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: form forty below Joe, which is I mean, simple simple terms, 374 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: but it's essentially like dipping dots with coffee and creamer. Yeah. 375 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: That same year, for April Fool's Day, the company announced 376 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: the Jumbo Dot, complete with a commercial. But yes, it 377 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: was a joke. Alass m hmm in Dippin Dots commissioned 378 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: pop artist Dowin to remix his hit Dessert into a 379 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: promo for the band Um, and then they collaborated again 380 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: in to produce the song I Want My Dipping Dots um, 381 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: featuring teen band L two, m Um and I. I'm 382 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: old and I don't know who any of those people are, 383 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: but um, but I listened to I listened to Dessert 384 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: as part of my reading for this episode. Oh it's 385 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: been a minute since we've had a song that I 386 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: needed to go listen to, but I want to uh In. 387 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: The company reached out to then Press Secretary Shawn Spicer, 388 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: offering a sort of olive branch, since he'd been railing 389 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: about his dislike of dipping dots on Twitter since it 390 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: was it was a one time rand now like a 391 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: prolonged campaign. Um and so yeah, back in when he 392 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: was merely a PR dude out and about d c um, 393 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: he he went on this Twitter rant that was I 394 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: think it was at least three tweets these This only 395 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: accounts for two of them, but I couldn't find the 396 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: rest of them, um easily. To be honest, I didn't 397 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: try very hard. But yeah, for sure, he said, and 398 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: I quote Dipping Dots is not the ice cream of 399 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: the future. If Dipping Dots was truly the ice cream 400 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: of the future, they would not have run out of vanilla. Okay, okay, yeah, 401 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: so yeah, so yeah. In seventeen, when he was uh 402 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: the White House Press secretary. Um, they reached out and 403 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: offered to host an ice cream social at the White House. 404 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: Um and uh he he made a counter suggestion, um, 405 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: and what they wound up in instead was giving veterans 406 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: and first responders five hundred douchers to uh to six 407 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: Flags Maryland. Huh Okay. I think they made a twitter. 408 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 1: They posted a tweet about it, and they used connect 409 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: the dots, which I really like us make those funds, 410 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: I know. Um and yeah, and the company was making 411 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: three thirty million dollars in annual revenue that same year. 412 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: Fisher created a subsidiary called Dip in Dots Cryogenics to 413 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: license out there quote dot forming i P and cryogenic 414 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: technology to be used outside of ice cream, including pharmaceutical 415 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: companies and plant based meat alternatives. Yeah. They offer everything 416 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: from peloticizing equipment to mini fridge sized freezers to a 417 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: dang storage container like forty foot storage container that contains 418 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: the equipment to keep stuff frozen as low as forty 419 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: grease fahrenheit. Um, you can also contract them to manufacture 420 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: pelotized stuff for you. And yeah, they make more money 421 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: from things like Impossible burger our plant based meat alternatives 422 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: in general than they do from their ice cream wild 423 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah. And speaking of but when covid vaccines 424 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: started to roll out in the US, there was a problem. 425 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: The fiser vaccine had to be stored at negative ninety 426 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: four degrees fahrenheit about negative seventy degrees celsius. The specialty 427 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: freezers operated by Dippin' Dots located across the country were 428 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: offered as a potential storage solution. Um, these are the 429 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: same freezers where the ice cream is stored. But it 430 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: is a part of the Dippin' Dots Cryogenics subsidiary. Yes, 431 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: it's the same technology, Um, different branch of the company. 432 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: You're you're not going to find covid vaccines in with 433 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: the dipping dots at your at your grocery store. No no, no, no, 434 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: but yeah, Maderna's vaccine also has to be stored cold 435 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: at negative four fahrenheit. That's negative twenty and uh yeah yeah, 436 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: UM the okay, So so this is a this is 437 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: a whole issue, UM. And it's it's an issue that 438 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: that dipping dots is perhaps uniquely placed to to be 439 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: knowledgeable about and helpful with because all right, UM, the 440 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: capacity to ship and store things cold as on like 441 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: an industrial infrastructure scale, UM is called the cold chain. 442 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: And the logistical difficulties of the cold chain, and also 443 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: the cost in solving those those difficulties is part of 444 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: what is making vaccine distribution tricky outside of the areas 445 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: that do have infrastructure for it, um, like most of 446 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: the US. UM. And it's an interesting problem. It's not new. Um. 447 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: The ebola vaccine had to be kept even colder than these, 448 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: uh than any of these COVID vaccines though, UM with 449 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. Yeah. Part of the issue is UM that 450 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: you're dealing with both max vaccination sites, which are relatively 451 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: easy to deal with, and UM individual clinic and doctor's 452 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: offices that are distributing much smaller numbers of the vaccines UM, 453 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: because once you thaw the vaccine to a usable temperature, 454 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: you've got to use them pretty much right away. It's 455 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: like your thirty person dipping dots party, Like you're not 456 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: just going to be able to like put it back 457 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: in a freezer. Refreezing them would create those ice crystals 458 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: that would ruin them. Um. This is how I got 459 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: my Johnson and Johnson shot uh incidentally, because the I 460 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: happened to see an email from my local doctor's office 461 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: that was like, Hey, we have this vaccine, come and 462 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: get it, like like we need arms to put this in. 463 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: Is it yours coming on? Um? And I was like yes, 464 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: m hm. Furthermore, about about the whole vaccine thing, you're 465 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: still dealing with dry ice for shipping and storage um. 466 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: And like you you you can store the big trays 467 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: of fiser that they distribute for up to thirty days, 468 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: but you've got to refresh the dry ice keeping them 469 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: cold every five days. Um. And they are only so 470 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: many companies that make dry ice. UM. And like everything, 471 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: the cold chain has been disrupted by the very pandemic 472 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: that we need it to help vaccinate against. Um. Also, 473 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 1: transit delays, which are a very pandemic problem. UM are 474 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: a big deal because during shipping, if you run into 475 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: transit delays, all the dry ice can sublimate um, which 476 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: is just the chemistry word for for melting straight from 477 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: a solid into a gas. All the drys can sublimate 478 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: before you reach your destination. Um. When this happens with 479 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: Dippin Dots, they've then got to send like a third 480 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: party dry ice person to to intercept the shipment before 481 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: it's ruined. Um. And apparently a small amount of ways 482 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: to do to this is built into the Dippin Dots 483 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: business plan. UM. But it's a much bigger and or 484 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: sadder deal when it's vaccines. Yeah. Yeah, UM, we should 485 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: definitely come back and do an episode on that because 486 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: that was really interesting. I was not expecting this to episode. 487 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: It makes sense that it did. I just wasn't expecting it. Yeah. Yeah, 488 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: you never know, you never know where the researchers can't 489 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: take you really don't. Um. And yes, the whole thing 490 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: that started this for me, at least this interest. In July, 491 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: ten employees were injured definite explosion at a Dippin Dots 492 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: facility located in Kentucky. For we're injured in a similar 493 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: incident at the same place in Um. From what I 494 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: could gather, no one was seriously injured uh in any 495 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: of these, but you know, still not good. Uh. And 496 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: they're they're investigating the most current one as to why 497 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: it happened. It happened when they were unloading the nitrogen. Yeah. Yeah, 498 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: if you're if you're not careful with stuff like that. 499 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm speaking off the top of my head. I 500 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: did not look into it. But um, but but you're 501 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: dealing with things that are under a lot of pressure. Um. 502 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: And uh. And that pressure is partially um uh kept 503 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: by the temperature that it's being held at. And so 504 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: if you if you lose pressure um a k A, 505 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: if you have too much variation and temperature, yeah, it can, 506 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: it can expand very quickly, right and yeah, so yeah, um. 507 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: And then there have been a lot of news stories 508 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: recently on the nostalgia around dipping dots, which I thought 509 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: was really interesting in like places opening dipping dots in 510 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: New York or you know these big marketing places that 511 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: aren't in like amusement parks but is an actual dedicated store, 512 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: which I do think. I mean, the power of nostalgia 513 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: is oh yeah, oh yeah, well, I mean you know, 514 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: kids who were um growing up with this at amusement 515 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: parks and malls and whatever, um in the early nineties 516 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: are having kids now. So so that's you know, if 517 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: you're out with your kid and you see a Dipping 518 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: Dots and you're like, oh man, I remember loving this 519 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: when I was a child. I want to share that 520 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: with you then of course of course, yeah, so I 521 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: mean that in poptrol I, the old and the news 522 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: coming together. Um. But yes, that's what we have to 523 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: say about Dipping DUTs for now. It is. We have 524 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: some listener mail for you, we do, but first we 525 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: have one more cup break for word from our sponsor. 526 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: And we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you, and 527 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: we're back with this. Man. We didn't make any Mr 528 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: Freeze punks. Oh man, I'm ashamed. I'm as opportunity. There's 529 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: so many good ones too. Oh this is gonna hot 530 00:33:54,480 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: my dreams. Oh oh Annie, chill out. Yes, it's like 531 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: a battery is getting charged within me. If that would 532 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: be my movie of like any you can't die now 533 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: and then you make a pun and it's like, I'm 534 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: pretty sure, all right, I'll keep that in mind if 535 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: an emergency situation ever arises we need like an emergency 536 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: pun box that we break ballerie rope. In the zucchini episode, 537 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: and you mentioned that you make a lasagnia with thin 538 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: slice zucchini as the noodles, I'd like to suggest that 539 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: you can also use a mix of thin slices of 540 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: zucchini and eggplant. Eggplant is a polarizing food, so this 541 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: is definitely not something that everybody would enjoy. But if 542 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: you like it as much as I do, then a 543 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: quote lasagna made with zucchini and eggplants and noodles is amazing. 544 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: I've also added thin sliced potatoes into the mix, and 545 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: that is good too. I haven't ever salted a drain 546 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: the noodles for this, but I do big this zigni 547 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: for a really long time to make sure that the 548 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: veggies end up fully cooked. Yeah, that sounds so good. 549 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: I do like eggplant, and I've been on a big 550 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: during this pandemic. I don't know why, but well you 551 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: know why. It's because I had that was the last 552 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: meal I had out and about before we shut down 553 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: was fried eggplant. Uh, so I've been on a really 554 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: big eggplant kick. Okay, but that does sound good to me. Yeah, yeah, 555 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 1: that sounds amazing. I love everything that you just mentioned there, 556 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: that is. Yes. Oh and we're kind of in like 557 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: prime egg plants season right now. Okay, alright, I'm like 558 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: making a gross realist in my head. Yes, okay, Jared wrote, 559 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: I am an Idaho native and grew up completely entrenched 560 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: in the Idaho spud lover stereotype. However, only last year 561 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: did I learned that one of my mom's first cousins 562 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: was one of the engineers that designed the prototype tater 563 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: top machine for or Ida. I love tater tots and 564 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: was just busting my buttons to know that I was 565 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: related to one of the pioneers who made these gastronomical 566 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: miracles possible. Also, as for corn dogs, growing up, the 567 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: only corn dogs I had were in school lunches. I 568 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: was not a fan of the soggy corn batter and 569 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: typically peeled it off and ate the hot dog alone. 570 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 1: As I grew up, I was exposed to better ones 571 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: and my palette matured. I now really enjoy an occasional 572 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: corn dog when I feel the craving, but We'll still 573 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: favor a good hot dog in a bun, not a sandwich. Well, 574 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: that's really cool one that you have a relative that 575 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: was and tater tots. Ah, that's always so fun. I know, 576 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: oh I know, Um yeah, I totally forgot about school 577 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: lunch corn dogs and I knew a lot of people 578 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: that would do that. You peel off the back, eat 579 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: the hot dog. Um. And I have to say a 580 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: lot of you have written in about corn dogs, which 581 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: is excellent and wonderful and we're so excited to share. 582 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 1: It inspires a lot of feelings in people, as we suspected. Yeah, 583 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: and and we we we enjoy. We enjoy a strong 584 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: opinion here on we do. Um. So thanks to both 585 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: of those listeners who writing in. 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