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Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher

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Speaker 3: It's Friday. Welcome to the Herd.

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Speaker 4: Jason McIntyre in for Colin Cowherd. I am joined today.

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Speaker 4: It's a bloomy day if you're a New York Knicks fan.

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Speaker 4: I'm joined today by Rachel Nichols, who is not a

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Speaker 4: Knicks fan, but she likes the NBA just as much

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Speaker 4: as I do. We got a lot happening, Rachel. Oh

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Speaker 4: my goodness. Adam Silver, I know thanking.

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Speaker 3: I know we're gonna see some ic changes coming out.

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Speaker 4: Let me talk about them allegedly. We'll see what the

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Speaker 4: league does. We got a couple of great guests lined up.

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Speaker 4: Gots some trouble potentially ahead in Baltimore for Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys are seeing.

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Speaker 4: The quotes coming out of Baltimore not great. We'll get

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Speaker 4: to that in a little bit, but I have to

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Speaker 4: admit I need to start the show today it's Friday,

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Speaker 4: with a bit of an apology. You gotta start here.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday we talked Cleveland Calves getting the number one seed.

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Speaker 4: We talked New York Knicks go to the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 4: I neglected to mention the Detroit Pistons, who are the

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Speaker 4: team with the best record of the NBA.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how they've done it. It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Kate Cunningham starts off the second half with an unbelievable

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Speaker 4: performance at MSG last night, forty two points. The Pistons,

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Speaker 4: ladies and gentlemen have swept the Knicks, swept them three

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Speaker 4: nothing and beat them down all three games this season badly.

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Speaker 3: Now here's what's even more special.

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Speaker 4: Last night, they went into MSG without two of their

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Speaker 4: top seven, Jalen Duran and Beef stew both serving a

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Speaker 4: suspension for their goonery against Charlotte last week, getting in

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Speaker 4: a bit of an altercation there. And Detroit's win last night,

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Speaker 4: holy hell, very impressive. I saw some concern Knicks fans,

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Speaker 3: I mean, people are clamoring we need you, honess. It's over.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to the finals. Take a deep breath,

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Speaker 4: ladies and gentlemen. I love the NBA. It's also February.

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Speaker 4: Coming out of the All Star break. Og Anernobi was

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Speaker 4: awful last night. Michael Bridges once again quite terrible. People

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Speaker 4: want to ship him FedEx anywhere, get him out of town.

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Speaker 3: We need you, honest, and I just I want to

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's not overreact to a February loss or the

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Speaker 4: other two losses to the Pistons. And I'll just remind

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Speaker 4: people this kind of thing happens often in the East.

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Speaker 4: I'm young enough to remember those Toronto Raptors teams with

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Speaker 4: Kyle Lowry and DeMar DeRozan. They were so dominant, fifty wins,

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Speaker 4: sixty wins, crushing everybody in the regular season, and I.

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Speaker 3: Was told, hey, they could go to the finals. This

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Speaker 3: is the year.

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Speaker 4: And every single year Lebron James was in the East,

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Speaker 4: he would just smack them down in the playoffs. In fact,

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Speaker 4: one of them was an incredible sweep. I remember telling Coward,

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Speaker 4: course Lebron wins it with a late shot and it's like, okay, sweep.

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Speaker 4: And I also remember those Paul George teams in Indiana

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Speaker 3: Good teams, really good teams. Oh they're gonna break through.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna give Miami and Lebron problems. No, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I even remember that Derek Rose team with the Bulls.

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Speaker 4: the MVP, and what happened Lebron James.

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Speaker 3: This is what happens in the East.

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Speaker 4: I know a lot of those were against Lebron, but

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Speaker 3: They're battle tested, they've been to the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I'm just not totally ready to crown the Pistons like

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Speaker 4: They got the bigs, they got the toughness, and that's

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Speaker 3: So I don't think toughness is the answer.

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Speaker 4: I just think the Knicks need to I know this

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Speaker 4: losing the second round two years in a row, then

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Speaker 4: losing the conference finals, you're not concerned with February games.

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Speaker 3: They did not look like a team that.

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Speaker 4: Was like, Oh, we gotta have this, we gotta beat

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Speaker 4: the Pistons tonight.

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Speaker 3: News flash, guys, what is this Detroit Pistons seed?

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Speaker 3: I have to look this up.

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Speaker 4: They haven't won a playoff series since Obama was president.

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Speaker 4: TikTok was not even in existence in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 4: happening in China. But like, that's how long it's been

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Speaker 4: since the Pistons were good. Three years ago they won

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Speaker 4: seventeen games, worst record.

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Speaker 4: Okay, they've got to crawl before they can run. I'm

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Speaker 4: not ready to put this team in the finals. They're

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Speaker 3: Are they gonna win a series? They? They should? They

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Speaker 4: Be careful what those pesky LaMelo ball Charlotte squad.

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Speaker 3: They're dangerous. But Detroit should be fine. But are they

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Speaker 4: Past the Donovan Mitchell James Harden backcourt. Are they gonna

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Speaker 4: get by my Knicks?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I still think when you break down the Pistons and

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Speaker 4: I still think four of the best fire five players

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Speaker 4: I trust mchal Bridges in a playoff series more than

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Speaker 4: I do Duran and Og of course, and Kat and Nick, Hey,

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Speaker 4: no pressure. If it fails, you just nuke the team

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Speaker 3: No big deal.

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Speaker 4: All right, Let's pivot to a huge story in the Association.

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Speaker 4: And yesterday Adam Silver, yes, Adam Silver, the commissioner of

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Speaker 4: are going to do something about tanking. And folks, there

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Speaker 4: was a collective yes we did it, populism, fans we won.

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Speaker 3: Adam Silver is gonna fix tanking.

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Speaker 4: And there was this huge excitement in the air over

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Speaker 4: potentially the end of tanking. And I'm here to tell

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Speaker 4: you I'm very reluctant to believe that any this is

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Speaker 4: going to solve anything. So here is Adam Silver talking

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Speaker 5: The League is eighty years old. It's time to take

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Speaker 5: a fresh look at this and to see whether that's

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Speaker 5: an iniquated way of going about doing it. We got

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Speaker 5: to look at some fresh thinking here. I mean, what

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Speaker 5: we're doing, what we're seeing right now is not working.

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Speaker 5: There's no question about it. Are we seeing behavior that

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Speaker 5: is worse this year than we've seen in recent memory? Yes,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not wrong. This is an anomaly.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the tanking is excessive this year because this June's

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Speaker 3: So it's a little excessive, and everybody needs a start.

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Speaker 4: But I was reading a quote from the great Charlie Munger,

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Speaker 4: Warren Buffett, and he talked about incentives and he said, well,

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Speaker 3: I'll show you the outcome when you tell me the incentive.

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Speaker 4: And the incentive in the NBA is to be bad

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Speaker 4: to get star players like Darren Peterson, like aj Debansa,

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Speaker 4: so you can tank in soccer if you want, that's fine,

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Speaker 4: and you could go get the best goalie that the

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Speaker 4: He's one of eleven players on the field. Yes, you'll

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Speaker 3: You get a.

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Speaker 4: Superstar basketball player, instantly you become relevant. I will point

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Speaker 4: out Lebron James in Cleveland. What had the Cavs done

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Speaker 4: before Lebron got there? A bunch of ousted in the

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Speaker 4: first round, second round, Craig Craig E, low Mark Price,

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Speaker 4: Brad Doerty, the good teams. You got Lebron James, certifiable superstar.

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Speaker 3: You go to the moon.

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Speaker 4: You got one Ben Yama in San Antonio. Hello, there

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Speaker 4: were teams tripping over themselves tanking that season.

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Speaker 3: Go look it up.

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Speaker 4: You got one Ben Yama and they're now probably gonna

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Speaker 4: be on top of the league for a decade. One

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Speaker 4: of my favorites, of course, is the San Antonio Spurs,

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Speaker 4: who had David Robinson. I don't know if you guys

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Speaker 4: remember this, and Greg Popovitch was the GM, Yes, the

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Speaker 4: Greg Popovich fires the coach, a couple other players Sean Elliott,

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Speaker 4: they're injured. Let's just shut it down. In tank, they

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Speaker 4: had won fifty nine games. They tank, win the lottery

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Speaker 4: and get a gentleman by the name of Tim Duncan.

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Speaker 4: Tanking works. They went from fifty nine wins to twenty wins.

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Speaker 4: Tim Duncan boom. Now, obviously you have to supplement the

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Speaker 4: roster with great draft picks like Jenoblee and Parker who

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Speaker 4: they hit on.

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Speaker 3: But tanking does work.

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Speaker 4: I know people hate that, but it is the best

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Speaker 3: That's how you get a superstar.

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Speaker 4: Because if we're being real, like the Utah Jazz, you know,

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Speaker 4: free agency And that's not a knock on the city.

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Speaker 3: I went to Utah for my daughter's volleyball tournament.

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Speaker 3: He's going to do his best. Here he is.

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Speaker 5: If you step back, and the fundamental theory behind a

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Speaker 3: And some of these ideas are not terrible.

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Speaker 4: I don't love the idea that you can't pick top

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Rachel and I can discuss that later.

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Speaker 4: But like there is an incentive to get the best

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Speaker 6: That you can.

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Speaker 4: I mean we could try, like, hey, owners, if you

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Speaker 3: We could try a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 4: But I can tell you this, you will never fully

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Speaker 4: So I do love that story, Rachel. I know you're

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Speaker 7: I just think that tanking is a symptom, not the problem, right,

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Speaker 7: So as long as that's the case, you got to

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Speaker 7: they're going to tank. Do you think that any team

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants to do that. They're doing that.

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Speaker 7: Because they have to, So you have to give them

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Speaker 3: And maybe we'll solve taking later on the show. I

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Speaker 4: Up next, folks, Lamar Jackson, Jesse mintor the new OC.

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Speaker 3: What is going on in Baltimore?

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Speaker 2: Listen?

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Speaker 4: It is a brand new organization. They got the center

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Speaker 4: who's not signed? I don't know, Folks, Ravens potential trouble

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Speaker 4: Here we go our number two on a Friday in

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Speaker 4: February It's me Jason McIntyre in for Colin Cowherd, joined

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Speaker 4: by Rachel Nichols. We are breaking down all the best

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Speaker 4: great sports week. Get some NBA, NFL. We got James

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Speaker 3: Wonder if he'll be at the combine. Man. I used

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Speaker 3: to go, Rachel, did you ever go to the NFL Combine?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: I was always covering the NBA that part of the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love the NFL Combine. It's coming up.

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Speaker 4: I would go hang out at that one bar and

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Speaker 3: It was wild. The Slippery Noodle, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I think Saint Elmo's Mane. I think I got

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Speaker 4: Someone came up to me and like I was like, oh, hey,

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Speaker 4: because I was a Jets fan. All Right, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: do an interesting list here. So last night Cave cutting

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable performance.

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Speaker 4: And it actually came on the heels of him giving

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Speaker 4: Right, And then he said to the interviewer, Cave Cunningham,

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Speaker 3: Player, full stop. Okay.

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Speaker 4: So kid goes off last night the Garden, and his

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Speaker 6: I mean he's a superstar and there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's hard for me to think of five

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Speaker 8: And I think that's what superstars do, right. Superstars aren't

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Speaker 8: I mean like he's the guy that goes down in

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: Can the guy win a playoff series? First, sorry, JB,

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Speaker 4: batted this around a good twenty minute debate discussion. If

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Speaker 4: my list ten to one Americans in the NBA to

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Speaker 4: They would have definitely made it. Let's strong with number ten.

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Speaker 4: Number ten, Tyrese Maxey, the Philadelphia seventy six ers incredible guard.

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Speaker 2: Number nine.

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Speaker 4: D book Devin Booker nearly won a title with the Suns,

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Speaker 4: had that tough loss to the Bucks. Booker twenty nine

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Speaker 4: Devin Booker. Ninth on my list. Number eight had to

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Speaker 4: I love Lisa Brunson. Eleventh in the league and scoring.

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Speaker 3: He's an All NBA player in the last two.

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Speaker 4: Years, most clutch player in the league last year literally

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Speaker 3: He was first team All NBA Live next year. He's

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Speaker 4: I mean, he was so good in Utah ahead of schedule.

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Speaker 4: Now he's in Cleveland and they're really freaking good. They

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Speaker 4: I would not be shocked if they were in the finals.

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Speaker 3: Good all overall human being. I love him. I have him. Seventh.

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Speaker 4: Number six Jalen Brown, Boston Celtics forward. Now it's interesting

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Speaker 4: He's averaging twenty nine seven and five, shooting forty eight

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Speaker 3: Folks. He's like a sleeper MVP.

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Speaker 4: Candidate if SGA can't get healthy. Number five Cad Cunningham

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Speaker 4: that bet again. Sga and Yokich may miss games. Kate

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Speaker 4: is playing exceptional. The team is number one seed in

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Speaker 3: He's exceptional.

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Speaker 4: You build around him, number four, you're gonna hate me,

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Speaker 4: guys Kawhi Leonard. This is probably recency biased because he

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Speaker 3: He is thirty four. But as Rachel.

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Speaker 4: Alluded to earlier, not many people want to do the

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Speaker 4: Raptors thing where we're gonna rent you.

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Speaker 3: If I'm building around for one.

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Speaker 4: Year, I'm taking a roll of the dice with Kawhi Leonard.

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Speaker 4: He's that good this season twenty eight six and four,

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Speaker 4: sevent team seven time All Defensive Team selection, plays at

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Speaker 4: both ends.

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Speaker 3: He's he's just.

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Speaker 4: Playing unbelievable basketball right now. He is thirty four, And

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Speaker 4: I know the injury history Number three Steph Curry, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I know. How is he not one? How is he

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Speaker 4: on the list. We're we're gonna get the full gambit.

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Speaker 4: He is thirty seven, but I know they stink this year.

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Speaker 4: Are you looking at his numbers? He's tenth in the

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Speaker 4: league in scoring. He's missed a bunch against He leads

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Speaker 4: the NBA in three he's made, leaves the NBA in

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Speaker 4: forty five plus point games, leaves the NBA and free

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Speaker 4: throw percentage. Steph Curry is still like God Gawd. You

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Speaker 4: can build around him for a year or two. Number

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Speaker 4: two Anthony Edwards. It's tough for me to put him

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Speaker 4: ahead of Curry on any list, but the guy is

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Speaker 4: freaking incredible, unbelievable to watch. I personally think he needs

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Speaker 4: to clean up some of his interviews. Way too many

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Speaker 4: curse words, dude. The young kids are watching.

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Speaker 3: But he's a scoring.

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Speaker 4: Machine, plays at both ends. He's gonna be a tough

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Speaker 4: out in the playoffs. Back to back Conference finals appearances.

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Speaker 3: For ann Number one Cooper Flag hasn't won a playoff series.

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Speaker 3: I'm aware of that.

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Speaker 4: He's nineteen years old, but I am able to build

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Speaker 4: at least twelve years around this guy. Plays hard at

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Speaker 4: both ends. Already a plus defender, folks, offensively. The things

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Speaker 4: he's doing at nineteen put him in the discussion with

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Speaker 4: Lebron for the greatest teenager at NBA history. He has

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Speaker 4: been everything we expected and more. I think take the

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Speaker 4: over on one and a half MVPs for his career.

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Speaker 4: I know that we're gonna hear a lot of grief

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Speaker 4: on this youngest player to score forty or more points game.

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Speaker 4: He's done that twice. We're gonna get to our guest,

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Speaker 4: but Rachel, I will need your feedback on this. Rachel

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Speaker 4: was laughing through most of this segment. I have Cooper

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Speaker 4: flag one again. It's build around, all right, let's get

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Speaker 4: to our guests. He's been waiting patiently.

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Speaker 3: James Palmer, mister.

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Speaker 4: Scoop City, great NFL reporter, NFL insider for Bleacher Report.

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Speaker 4: I love that background. Did you get like professional art?

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Speaker 4: Look at that professional art?

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Speaker 9: I like where your head's at because that is thirteen

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Speaker 9: year old Nixon Palmer right there, my son. Who Now,

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Speaker 9: I'm just going a quick moment to brag here. We'll

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Speaker 9: have a piece at the Denver Art Museum that in

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Speaker 9: our contest he won.

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Speaker 6: So we're rolling here arts sneak house.

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Speaker 4: James, you burryed the lead. I've got an eye for art, clearly.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you do a teen year old at a museum,

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Speaker 4: but it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you got an eye.

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Speaker 6: It's for sale. If anybody's interested, just give us a shout.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I like it all right.

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Speaker 4: You know what else I like is drama and James.

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Speaker 4: I kind of want to start with the Lamar Jackson situation.

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Speaker 4: Some comments from Declan Doyle about expecting everyone at voluntary

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Speaker 4: OTAs that includes the quarterback who just may or may

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Speaker 4: not have run off the head coach and is asking

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Speaker 4: for a lot of money, rookie head coach, rookie OC

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Speaker 4: play caller, A lot going on in Baltimore.

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Speaker 6: Your thoughts, Yeah, there certainly is. I would say this

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Speaker 6: when you say rookie head coach. For sure.

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Speaker 9: It wasn't brought up enough that there was a previous relationship.

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Speaker 9: Obviously he was in the building Jesse Mentor in Baltimore

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Speaker 9: and on the other side of the but I was

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Speaker 9: told during the entire interview process that there was a

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Speaker 9: pretty good relationship between Lamar Jackson and Jesse Minter dating

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Speaker 9: back to their time together in that building. Lamar kind

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Speaker 9: of talks to everybody in the building. So I wasn't

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Speaker 9: fully surprised, but that should be mentioned in some sense.

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Speaker 9: But you're right, rookie play caller, rookie offensive mind obviously

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Speaker 9: running the show on that side. And this isn't the

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Speaker 9: first time, honestly, we've heard kind of like a little

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Speaker 9: kind of not really a jab, but a little kind

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Speaker 9: of comment. You heard it from Steve Bashatti, honestly, and

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Speaker 9: his press conference too, like, hey, you can come up

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Speaker 9: to Baltimore, Lamore if you'd like, because we know that

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Speaker 9: he doesn't really attend a lot.

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Speaker 6: Of these voluntary workouts. I think he missed eight of

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Speaker 6: nine last year on the field workouts.

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Speaker 9: And that was what Deckland was kind of hinting at,

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Speaker 9: if we want to get over the hump, we want

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Speaker 9: to be one of the premier teams in the AFC.

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Speaker 9: And we all know that it was really the Ravens,

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Speaker 9: the Bengals, the Bills. I was in that room when

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Speaker 9: Josh Allen was crying his eyes out after the divisional

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Speaker 9: round where and its wasn't part of the AFC playoffs

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Speaker 9: last year?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 9: No, Patrick Mahomes And any year you waste with one

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Speaker 9: of these guys is a wasted year in the pressure increases.

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Speaker 9: So I do think there's that aspect for sure, and

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Speaker 9: I'm going to see what this marriage.

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Speaker 6: Is going to be. Like.

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Speaker 9: The main thing I'm looking at, Jason is the way

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Speaker 9: that Ben Johnson and Declan dule worked with Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 9: There were so much about how do we get Caleb

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Speaker 9: to play in our system? There's an adverse side of

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Speaker 9: that that Ben Johnson figured out and what does I

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Speaker 9: need to learn about Caleb. I think Declan's needs to

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Speaker 9: do that exact same thing with Lamar because of the

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Speaker 9: way he plays. But I do think it was an

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Speaker 9: interesting comment. I think April six, I think is the

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Speaker 9: date we're all going to be looking at now.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, what do you make of Lamar coming off

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Speaker 4: the injury? A lot of drama swirling around the him

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Speaker 4: horball stuff.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard, like, have you heard.

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Speaker 4: Anything about how that ended, because I haven't heard Lamar

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Speaker 4: come out publicly. Maybe I missed it or on social media.

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Speaker 4: Did he say like a hey man, I'm really going

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Speaker 4: to miss co Charbs or anything like that.

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Speaker 6: There hasn't been much.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 9: I mean, obviously when he gets, you know, in front

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Speaker 9: of the media in Baltimore when when he's up there,

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Speaker 9: obviously there'll be some comments and some questions to be

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Speaker 9: asked of Lamar and he's obviously you're very short with

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Speaker 9: that group, I will say that, but you know he

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Speaker 9: has been you know, one of these guys that that

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Speaker 9: is kind of an enigma.

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Speaker 6: You know, you go of the week and in my.

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Speaker 9: Job and all these other guys that do the same

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Speaker 9: thing I do, is we're wondering if he's going to

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Speaker 9: play on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: He's one of those rare players.

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Speaker 9: He may not see him practice during the week and

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Speaker 9: then all of a sudden he plays on a Sunday.

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Speaker 9: I do know that was one of the things that

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Speaker 9: maybe stuff in their side a little bit. Tom Munkin's going, hey, man,

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Speaker 9: I think we need our quarterback on the field on

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Speaker 9: a Wednesday. I think that will help our chances. Obviously

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Speaker 9: he battled a number of injuries. We saw that the

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Speaker 9: talent is obviously still there. The fourth quarter against Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 9: You're like, yeah, this is the two time MVP. This

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Speaker 9: is the incredible athlete. The guy who has eye is

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Speaker 9: passer rating in the history of the NFL and more

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Speaker 9: rushing yards than any quarterback in the history of the NFL.

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Speaker 9: But how you get him to play at that level consistently.

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Speaker 9: I think everybody's curious when he wasn't able to use

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Speaker 9: his legs. When I talked to defensive coordinators that went

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Speaker 9: against him, it was we can play him differently, and

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Speaker 9: Lamar was seeing things defensively differently than he has.

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Speaker 6: In the past.

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Speaker 9: And it is a little bit of a struggle. So

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Speaker 9: how does they adapt and change in this year? I

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Speaker 9: think Declan Boyle is saying like the more time we

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Speaker 9: spend together, the better. And obviously there's the contract part

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Speaker 9: of it, which his contract negotiations are very different than

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Speaker 9: anybody else is. It's him and mom and it's you know,

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Speaker 9: the same as everybody else. But that cap number needs

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Speaker 9: to change. So it's going to be a very interesting

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Speaker 9: offseason in Boltimore.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: in Neon Easter the not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go up the ninety five Quarridor to Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: A lot of issues going on there.

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Speaker 4: Somebody in the meeting this morning reference like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 4: Philly struck out on like their top four offensive coordinator tries,

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Speaker 4: like they were go. They were shooting high and kind

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Speaker 4: of had to settle at the end. There is good

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Speaker 4: news at Lane Johnson's back, But what are you hearing

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Speaker 4: in Philadelphia?

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Speaker 3: The aj brown stuff? It seems to have gone away,

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Speaker 3: and then now it sounds.

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Speaker 4: Like they're going to keep him or is that gamesmanship

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Speaker 4: and they're really working behind the scenes to unload him.

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Speaker 6: It's interesting he asked this.

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Speaker 9: I was having a conversation with the coach last week

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Speaker 9: about this, and they were like, you know, there's so

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Speaker 9: many of us around the league that are envious of

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Speaker 9: Philadelphia's building.

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Speaker 6: No, lie, just because of.

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Speaker 9: The owner and how you know, forward thinking Jeffrey Lourie is,

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Speaker 9: and how Howie Roseman operates, and how they blend so

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Speaker 9: many different aspects of the evaluation process together and how

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Speaker 9: they go about evaluating talent, and a lot of teams

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Speaker 9: look at them as kind of like a north Star.

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Speaker 6: In that sense.

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Speaker 9: But then the coach joked and said, there's also it's

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Speaker 9: also a building. It's just so unbelievably intense all the time.

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Speaker 9: He didn't use dysfunction, some people may use that word,

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Speaker 9: but it's just so intense. I would say this offseason

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Speaker 9: is very similar to what we saw in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 9: Heading into the twenty four season, No, Lie, I think

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Speaker 9: nix Sironnie was on the hot seat and there was

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Speaker 9: a lot of changes that were possibly going to be made. Well,

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Speaker 9: he responded, the coaching staff respond to the team responded

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Speaker 9: with a super Bowl right in commanding fashion. It almost

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Speaker 9: has a similar field going into twenty six, and we'll

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Speaker 9: see how they respond into it because there's a lot

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Speaker 9: of change, you know. I think Sean mannon coming in.

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Speaker 9: The tire system is going to change. And you mentioned

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Speaker 9: the offensive coordinators and striking out on some of them.

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Speaker 9: I would say this, there were a lot of varying

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Speaker 9: opinions on the perception of this job from the candidates.

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Speaker 6: I would say that, and some took jobs that they

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Speaker 6: thought were better.

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Speaker 3: Let's double click on that. What do you mean.

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Speaker 9: I think it's a very particular situation you're walking into

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Speaker 9: with the way the job has been a revolving door

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Speaker 9: each and every year. Yes, they're a guy that have

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Speaker 9: gotten head coaching jobs out of it, with Shane Steichen

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Speaker 9: or Kellen Moore. And I thought Kellen coach his tail

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Speaker 9: off in what he did in that Super Bowl year,

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Speaker 9: But then there's been guys that have been let go

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Speaker 9: immediately when I mentioned that there's some turmoil in terms

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Speaker 9: of the way things could be after the twenty sixth season,

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Speaker 9: Are you going to be looking for a job again?

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Speaker 9: I think that's something that a lot of these guys

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Speaker 9: look for when they're looking at working with certain situations.

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Speaker 6: I think the quarterback is one of the best in football.

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Speaker 6: I really do. I'll put it out there, but I.

658
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 9: Also know talking to offensive coordinators around the league, you

659
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 9: have to play a certain style with Jalen and obviously

660
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 9: there's no slouch. I mean, you got to play a

661
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 9: certain style with Patrick. He's a field quarterback, right Patrick

662
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 9: mahomes a field quarterback. You got to kind of play

663
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 9: that way in terms of how you call the offense.

664
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 9: And Andy's figured that out. Jalen has a certain style

665
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 9: in which he plays and you have to work within that.

666
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 9: And there's a lot of different opinions I would say

667
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 9: about Jalen Hurts, but this guy is a Super Bowl MVP.

668
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 9: He has two of the best Super Bowl performances maybe

669
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 9: we've ever seen an The other one he lost to Patrick.

670
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 6: He was unbelievable.

671
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 9: I remember Andy Reid telling me at something I was

672
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 9: hosting in Kansas City. He looked at Jalen Hurts it

673
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 9: was like, it's the best performance I've ever seen in

674
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 9: a Super Bowl and the one that Jalen lost.

675
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 6: So he has it in him.

676
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 9: I just think it's very specific in how he operates.

677
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 9: The one thing I would keep an eye on Jason, honestly,

678
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 9: is DeVante Smith this year. There are a lot of

679
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 9: people that I talk to that think this is a

680
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 9: surefire number one, whether AJ Brown is there or not.

681
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 9: Look for him to be used more. Look for him

682
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 9: to be used in a variety of fashions that they

683
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 9: think they can expand his role. He's a volume type

684
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 9: of receiver. They think I would be interested to see

685
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 9: what DeVante Smith will be like in twenty point So, okay, all.

686
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 3: Right, I'll put that.

687
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 4: I'll make a note of my app for fantasy football

688
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 4: draft for Ante Smith.

689
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: All right.

690
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 4: The Max Crosby anything on that trade front, it sounds

691
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 4: like he's still going out. A lot of people are

692
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 4: speculating Patriots. There's a lot of Bears chatter I know

693
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: in the NBA. Anytime all the reporters say something, it

694
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 4: ain't happening and something else happens.

695
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: Should we expect the same with the NFL? Or are

696
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 3: they onto something here?

697
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 6: Yeah?

698
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 9: I would say you mentioned at the top, have I

699
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 9: been to the Combine?

700
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 6: I will be at the Combine. I'm there every year.

701
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Speaker 9: It's outstanding. And you mentioned it's Most by the way,

702
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 9: or he used to be Most, No anymore. I think

703
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 9: that been renamed obviously, But listen, I think that I

704
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 9: bring it up is going to definitely be a spot

705
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 9: where there's conversations had between Max's arbis vitation and the Raiders.

706
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 9: And there's really three things to figure out here. The

707
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 9: first one is does Max want to be there? He's

708
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 9: been in the building every day he's rehabbing. I thought

709
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 9: it was interesting that he wasn't in there for Clint

710
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 9: Kubiak's press conference when he's been sitting in there for

711
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 9: some of the other head coaches that have been hired.

712
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 9: And I say that with a grain of salt, because

713
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 9: he's been there repeatedly and told repeatedly that it's going

714
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 9: to change and it's going to be different. Right, And

715
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 9: so when is there a breaking point for Max Crosby

716
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 9: going maybe I should play somewhere else. He loves being

717
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 9: a Raider, he has a great relationship with Mark Davis.

718
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 9: To my understanding, I think if he wants to be there,

719
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 9: it's the first part, and there is some relationships that

720
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 9: need to be mended, but Clint Kubiak is not part

721
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 9: of that. They promote his position coach to be the

722
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 9: defensive coordinator. I think that's a different wrinkle that plays

723
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 9: a factor in this as well.

724
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 6: Is this irreparable?

725
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 9: I don't think so, but I do think he's very

726
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 9: upset with the way the season ended. And if he

727
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 9: doesn't want to be there, and you're Clint Kubiak starting

728
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 9: your new regime, do you want the best player at

729
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 9: the culture center, the guy in your locker room.

730
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 6: That everybody looks to who doesn't want to be there?

731
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 6: Do you want him to be a part of that?

732
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 9: And then the other part is just do the Raiders

733
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 9: see him as part of what they want to build.

734
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 9: I think now you're starting to have those early conversations

735
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 9: that Clinton, you know, obviously was delayed with winning a

736
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 9: Super Bowl sucks, But at the same time, he finally

737
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 9: gets to meet with John Spytech and Tom Brady and

738
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 9: everybody and put this together and really be realistic with

739
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 9: themselves and say, how far away are we in this rebuild?

740
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 9: If we're more than two years away, which some people

741
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 9: outside that building I talk to think they are. Do

742
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 9: you take the picks from Max Crosby and you help

743
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 9: that be a part of a build that has a

744
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 9: lot of holes on your team? Now, I think it's

745
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 9: a great fit with gent and Bowers in what Kleikubiak runs.

746
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 9: But at the same time, how long is that rebuild

747
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 9: going to take? And do you want Max to be

748
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 9: a part of it? I think those are the three

749
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 9: big things. But the part that nobody talks about is

750
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 9: the injury. Like, I don't see a trade happening anytime

751
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 9: soon because this is a month's long injury here with

752
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 9: the meniscus repair not a trim. Do you make the

753
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 9: trade without a physical without just like on good faith.

754
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 9: I don't know it has happened, but I do think

755
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 9: this could be something to have multiple timelines to it.

756
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: You mentioned injury, so it got me thinking about Tyreek Hill.

757
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 4: He's coming off a major injury. Dolphins dumped him. I'm

758
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 4: assuming same deal. Like nobody, he's going to be jumping

759
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: for Tyreek instantly. They're going to wait to see aszooming

760
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: he's healthy, You're not trying to make a move.

761
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 9: On him, right, Yeah, they started. This is going to

762
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 9: be something that's going to take a minute for sure.

763
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 9: I would say also, the receiver class in this draft

764
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 9: plays a part in it as well, you know, I mean,

765
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 9: it is an outstanding receiver class.

766
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 6: Shameless plug.

767
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 9: Steve Smith and I on our show just did our

768
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 9: top ten receivers that Steve ranked and we just.

769
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 6: Put that up on our channel.

770
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 9: So it's a really really deep class that plays a part.

771
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 9: I would say this, there's some people around the league

772
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 9: that think he may not play in twenty twenty six,

773
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 9: so I would put that out there. I would say

774
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 9: mid season is what a lot of people think may

775
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 9: be the case. I wouldn't put it past because he's

776
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 9: great at this Drew Rosenhal's having some sort of workout,

777
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 9: some sort of showcase.

778
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 6: He's done it in the past. Teams will attend.

779
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 9: Teams will certainly attend, and there will be interest because

780
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 9: I think if you're chasing a ring, you want your

781
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 9: group to get, you know, over the hump. I think

782
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 9: he could really really help out a team. I think

783
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 9: there's a lot of people that still think he can

784
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 9: have a lot of really good football in him. He's

785
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 9: always defied the odds honestly, on the football field in

786
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 9: the way he's played. Just Buffalo, make them move. The

787
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 9: Ravens have a history of doing that at the receiver position,

788
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 9: right a number of times.

789
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 6: Now they did it.

790
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 9: They just did it with Hopkins, they did it with

791
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 9: Steve Smith, honestly, my buddy and Code knows on the show.

792
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 9: So there are teams that are going to be interested.

793
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 9: I just think the timeline is so up in the air, right,

794
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 9: So it's.

795
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: Similar to the Odell Beckham Rams situation from a few

796
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: years back.

797
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: Maybe, is it?

798
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 6: Yeah? I could see something similar, like, let's have everybody

799
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 6: take a look.

800
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 9: Let's have everybody take a look at what Tyreek brings

801
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 9: to the table, see him work out, see him run.

802
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 6: I think obviously everybody wants to see that.

803
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 9: Remember, the only information we really have, Jason, honestly, is

804
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 9: coming from Drew where it's an acl and multiple ligaments.

805
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 9: We still don't know exactly what all of the damage

806
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 9: that was there. There was a dislocation. It seems like

807
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 9: from everything I hear it's headed in the right direction.

808
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 9: But again, there's a lot to overcome here. I wouldn't

809
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 9: put it past Tyreek to come back from it. But

810
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 9: there are a lot of questions that teams are interested

811
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 9: to have answered.

812
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 4: All right, we could wrap up with quarterbacks, the quarterback carousel,

813
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 4: if you will. It's not pretty now. We said that

814
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 4: last year. Gino Smith was the guy with the did

815
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 4: not work out. Sam Darnold was the guy with the

816
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 4: Seahawks it did. We've seen Baker Mayfield in recent years,

817
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: you know, get on the cheap to Tampa that's worked out.

818
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: Is there a guy who's the leader in the clubhouse

819
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: right now? I mean, look at the list we got

820
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 4: on the screen. We got twa Kyler on there, the

821
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: wrong teams technically, but their teams don't really want them.

822
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: I don't Malik Willis. I can't believe he threw thirty

823
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 4: five passes last year. I'm like, that's the guy everybody

824
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 4: can't wait to get their hands on. This has got

825
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: to be one of the weaker lists you've seen in

826
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 4: a recent name.

827
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 9: It's not an outstanding list. You don't even have my

828
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 9: boy Joe Flacco on there. And I would be surprised

829
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 9: that he. I would be surprised if he didn't have

830
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 9: a job in all honesty, he'll probably be on a roster.

831
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 6: It is a wild list. I think you're taking a gamble.

832
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 9: When I talk to people around the league about Malik Willis,

833
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 9: I think he's going to be overpaid or somebody's going

834
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 9: to overpay. Could it be twenty million like a month

835
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 9: ago it was fifteen to twenty When I talked to

836
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 9: GMS about you know, their thought on what Malik Willis

837
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 9: would be and that'd be maybe incentive based. It's gone

838
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 9: up in a lot of people's mind because of probably

839
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 9: this list, because of where he comes from with Laflor

840
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 9: and being there with Jordan Love and kind of being

841
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 9: in that quarterback incubator he was in, and I think

842
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 9: that's that puts some validity to it.

843
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 6: I'll put a name on here that that you didn't have.

844
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 9: I know the San Francisco forty nine ers are saying

845
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 9: they will not move Mac Jones. There's what Jason A

846
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 9: dozen players that are untradable in this league. That's it,

847
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 9: you know what I mean? Like when I look at value,

848
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 9: I think Kyler is probably the most talented player on there,

849
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 9: and this inconsistency is a problem. Obviously, he's played at

850
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 9: stretches where he's a top ten quarterback. Honestly, the contract

851
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 9: and the rollover for twenty twenty seven makes it a

852
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 9: little more complicated in terms of what you could do

853
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 9: for him. But he's probably the most talented. But when

854
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 9: I look at value from the player to the contract,

855
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 9: all those things, Mac Jones is on a contract for

856
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 9: twenty twenty six under five million dollars. So I mean,

857
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 9: and you look at the way he played for a

858
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 9: stretch again, he was a backup, and I think the

859
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 9: system helps, and Kyle's obviously outstanding with quarterbacks. But if

860
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 9: what if a team is like, we'll give you a

861
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 9: second round pick for mac Jones, is John Let's going

862
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 9: to hang up the phone? Is is he going to

863
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 9: hand up the phone?

864
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 6: I don't know.

865
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: Is that in the thirties or the fifties?

866
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, it would depend, Yeah, I would.

867
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 9: Obviously, no team is running right now to give a

868
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 9: second round pick to the forty nine ers, But if

869
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 9: they're looking at their landscape and going, wait a minute,

870
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 9: I can have this guy under control for under five

871
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 9: million dollars at the quarterback position, and in terms of

872
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 9: what our spot is, I'm just saying the value of

873
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 9: all the guys that you had on that list varies

874
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Speaker 9: and the contract plays a part in that, and Max's

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Speaker 9: contract is outstanding compared to the other ones.

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Speaker 4: Who would you go for Mac Jones one year, five

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Speaker 4: million or Malik Malik Willis?

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Speaker 3: What three years for sixty mil?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I would try to get a two

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Speaker 9: year deal with Malik Willis if I could. I wouldn't

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Speaker 9: want to try to commit probably that third year because

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Speaker 9: I still have the sample size, like you mentioned, is

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Speaker 9: just so small, But there's a higher ceiling. I would say,

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Speaker 9: the ability to throw the football downfield accurate at least awesome,

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Speaker 9: The ability to move and manipulate the pocket. I think

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Speaker 9: a lot of people that I talked to pointed out

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Speaker 9: the poise he had in the pocket in the smallest

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Speaker 9: sample size he had, and that's always something that always

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Speaker 9: comes up with every quarterbackalk about. And so yeah, there's

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Speaker 9: a lot to like about in the league. But I

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Speaker 9: also think the landscape, and I mentioned the draft with

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Speaker 9: the receivers, the lack thereof talent at the quarterback position

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Speaker 9: in this draft also may play a factor.

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Speaker 6: Into what some of these teams are looking at. You.

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Speaker 4: Finally, anything on my jets are they going after a

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Speaker 4: quarterback or they find are they standing down and waiting

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Speaker 4: for twenty seven?

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Speaker 9: I think standing down waiting for twenty seven just really

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Speaker 9: looks like it right when they made some of these trades.

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Speaker 9: And you can tell you can comment with Darren Moving

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Speaker 9: on this, like he wanted picks in twenty seven. I

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Speaker 9: think you want to picks in twenty seven for a reason.

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Speaker 9: And I think a stop gap is what you're looking

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Speaker 9: at now. And do you take a chance on somebody

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Speaker 9: that you can just kind of fill the seat and

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Speaker 9: build off of and hope for upside, or you look

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Speaker 9: for somebody to fill the seat. I don't think they

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Speaker 9: pick a quarterback in the draft, so I do think, yeah,

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Speaker 9: some of those names looking at him, they might be

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Speaker 9: your quarterback in twenty six, but the group in twenty

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Speaker 9: seven is outstanding, and so they're going to be positioned

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Speaker 9: pretty well if that's what ends up happening.

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Speaker 4: Love it all right, James Balmer Scoop City does some

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Speaker 4: stuff with Steve Smith Bleacher Report A man, great stuff.

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Speaker 3: Have a great weekend.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I appreciate you guys too. All enjoy Andy, trust me?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 3: Oh, good stuff. I like it.

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Speaker 4: I like it especially my jest's not doing anything, which

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Speaker 4: is great, which is great. More tanking talk, Just kidding,