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Speaker 1: Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 4: I'm a stand up I'm stand up, stand up, unstand

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Speaker 2: apartment for the first two years because I've come from

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00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 2: a small town. And so my first two years I

436
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 2: concentrated on really letting people know that my game was real,

437
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 2: because listen, it's hard to come to a city like

438
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and all the pressure was already on me

439
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: because we won the championship. I'm the number one pick,

440
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: so I gotta I gotta make sure I proved to

441
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 2: everybody that I belong in the NBA. So I concentrated

442
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: on that first. Then after I made my name, then

443
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: I said, okay, it's club time. Now turn and listen

444
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: to listen man running with doctor Buss different and you

445
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 2: and the play playmates and all that.

446
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: It's a different life.

447
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something.

448
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: We started to sweat up.

449
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: Let me say, remember before we played in the old

450
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 3: four with Don Nelson. Yeah, we walked through the halls

451
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 3: of don Nelson say, well if these walls guitar.

452
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: The.

453
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: God Man, that forum club, it would never be nothing

454
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: like that ever. Again.

455
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was before a cell phone, media, a lot

456
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 5: of stuff because nobody but we had a good time.

457
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: We had a good time, and uh, I enjoyed myself.

458
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: But I would say this focused first on winning. We

459
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: were able to accomplish that, and then we partied after that.

460
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: So but it was a great time. I'm glad I

461
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: ended up here. It's been a beautiful, beautiful relationship.

462
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: Magic in l A and uh go together's anonymous. Yeah, anonymous,

463
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: your rookie year. Go to the finals first, doctor J.

464
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 1: You're able to beat them. Finals MVP is a room.

465
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: But before we get to the final er, before we

466
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: get to that final experience, doctor J is someon when

467
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: you looked up to I heard in college he kind

468
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: of rolled out the red carpet to you. Explain that

469
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: story about doctor J.

470
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was leaving school and I called him

471
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 2: up and so he said, hey, I said, hey, what

472
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 2: is it like leaving? You left? So I want you

473
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 2: to tell me what it's like for me to leave

474
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: Michigan stay early, and so he was explaining to me

475
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: on the phone, and then he said, I'm gonna do

476
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: you one better fly out to Philly and hang out

477
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: with me for the weekend. I said, what.

478
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: Doc, No, Doc, that's doc.

479
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: This is doctor J saying a young fellow can come

480
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 2: hang with him. And he put me up at his

481
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 2: crib at the big mansion. How he pick you up

482
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 2: a limo man? And my brother was like, oh, show,

483
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: I'm calling everybody. I'm with doctor J at his house.

484
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: And so you know, I'm sitting there, living in the

485
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: living room and he's talking to me and I'm just

486
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: zoning out, like I can't even believe it. I've always

487
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: had docs on. So now I'm with him. Oh it

488
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: was crazy, man. So we hung out the whole weekend.

489
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 2: Wife took great care of me as well, went to

490
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: a couple of playoff games. He was in the playoffs.

491
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: He gave me some great advice. And then here is

492
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: seven months later, I'm playing the brother in the NBA finals,

493
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: my idol, I'm playing him in the NBA Finals and

494
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: so we so I said, man, I love you, but

495
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 2: I got to take him out too, and take him

496
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: out but when he came down that middle, I mean

497
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: on that right side and cuffed that ball on the

498
00:27:49,520 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: cool damn, I said, oh man. And then the other

499
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: one was he came down the right side and he

500
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: jumped out of bounds and he started walking.

501
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: The finger roll yeah, in the air and fro going back.

502
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: Bunting against the glasses. Good. I said, man, this dude

503
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: is too much. Man. See he was doing that George

504
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: Shep before Michael. People forget that. Yeah, he was the

505
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: first dude walking in the air. Oh man. It was

506
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: so much fun playing against die and that we won.

507
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: But talk about talk about yourself a little bit because

508
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: Kareem went down. You're a rookie twenty years old in

509
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, the only first and only rookie to

510
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: ever win finals. MVP. Talk to these people that didn't

511
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: follow the game back then and what it was like

512
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: and the numbers you put up slid to the center.

513
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: That center from point go out to center. Well you

514
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: know again, man, I so he gets Kareem gets hurts

515
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: it in game five and so I get to the airport,

516
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: everybody head is down because Kareem can't play. I said,

517
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: So what Kareem can't play. We're still gonna win, right,

518
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: And they looked at me like, rookie, go sit down.

519
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 2: We can't beat Philadelphia without Kareem. I said, man, we're

520
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: gonna win this game. And they was like, we can't

521
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: do it. Irvan I said, so I gotta do something, Matt,

522
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: I said, I got to do something to get these

523
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: guys going. So Kareem would always sit in one A

524
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: that was his seat. So I asked a flight attendant

525
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: could I go on the plane first. So I went

526
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: and sat in Kareem seat, and as every Laker came

527
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 2: by and said, never fear magic is me, they were like,

528
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: this dude is crazy, you know, so they laughed. So

529
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: I had five hours all the way flight from LA

530
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: to Philadelphia to work on their mindset and attitude. Because

531
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Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, if you don't think you're gonna win,

532
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 2: I'm all right, I gonna win over it's over. So

533
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: I told him, man, we're gonna win this game. And

534
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: so I told the coach I'm gonna play center. He

535
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: was like he was like, he looked at me like, yeah,

536
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: have you ever played center? I said, yeah, I played

537
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: center in high school. He said, man, that was two

538
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: or three years ago, I said I'm gonna play center

539
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: tomorrow against Cadwell Jones. So long story short, you know,

540
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: I scored forty two points, fifteen rebound, seven assists, winning

541
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: the game, and it was a blessing to him. To

542
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: be named NBA Most Vasubable Player the Finals was a

543
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: true blessing. But to win the game, yes, again, first

544
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: and foremost. All the other stuff don't matter, right, just

545
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: win the game. So we won the championship. So that

546
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: was my first one, and then I became the third

547
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: guy ever in NBA history college come out of college.

548
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: That's right, to go back to back. So it's a

549
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: bit a blessing, a lot of history.

550
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: Talk to us about you're in Cream's relationship at the beginning,

551
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: because obviously you carry He was more reserved, quiet to himself.

552
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: I remember he hit the game winner and you jumped

553
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: on him and he got mad. But talk to us

554
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: because you came and brought a different energy to this team,

555
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: high fiving and out there about it. How long did

556
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: it take Kareem to adjust to what you were selling?

557
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it took him all season that first year. First

558
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: of all, they thought I was coming in to take

559
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: over the team, and I told him on first day

560
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: of training camp, I said, listen, man, I'm here to

561
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: help you. I said, where do you like the ball?

562
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: He said what I said, what do you like the ball?

563
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: I said, you like it high? You like it in

564
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: the middle of your chest. You like it low? He said, no,

565
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: I like it high. I said, that's where it'll be

566
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: every single time. I said, I'm here to help you

567
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: be more successful. So that first game, he hits a

568
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: sky hook from the free throw line, now not from

569
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: down low, from the free throw line to win the

570
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: game in San Diego. So I go running. I jumped,

571
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: and I'm hold choking them and hugging them. And I

572
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: didn't let go for about two or three minutes because

573
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: I've never seen a shot like that game when a

574
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: shot like that. So he got me to the locker room, rookie,

575
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: come here.

576
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: Don't ever do that.

577
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: We have eighty one more games to go. We can't

578
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: be this high after game one. So all the players

579
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: now are looking So now I gotta make a condition.

580
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: That's right. So everybody's looking at me in the locker room,

581
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: like what you're gonna do, rookie. So I turned around, said,

582
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: you hit a shot like that eighty one more time.

583
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: You know he's taller than me. I'm gonna jump in

584
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: your arms eighty one more time. And that showed him

585
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: that I wasn't gonna change. You can't intimidate me, and

586
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna change. I'm gonna be who I am

587
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: while I let you be who you are. So them

588
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: first fifty games, you know, all the other fellas we

589
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: high five and chest bump and we having fun. He

590
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: would score just one down, we scored we about the right.

591
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: When the playoff started, he did a hard dunk on somebody,

592
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: so he came out looking for somebody. We were like, oh,

593
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: so it was a beautiful thing man, to see him

594
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: enjoy hisself. So what did he say to me? Just

595
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: recently at the we had to Showtime reunion in Hawaii?

596
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: He said, Irvin, you showed me that I could show

597
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: my emotion and enjoy it again you changed. So that

598
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: was a beautiful thing.

599
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: So, uh, two titles in three years, pat Riley at

600
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: the Helm, you faced bird three out of four years

601
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: right there in the finals. Talk to us about that,

602
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: and then a double ended question, where did the phrase

603
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: showtime come from?

604
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: So?

605
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: First two two thisand and three years.

606
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were you know the Lakers. I tell you

607
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: it was just beautiful because we had everything we needed.

608
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 2: You know, when you think about we had Norm Nixon

609
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: was the other guard. Jamal Wilkes was a small forward

610
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: my first year, Jim Chones was a power forward with

611
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: Kareem at center. That unit was, man, just fantastic. When

612
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 2: we won that second one, here come James Worthy coming in,

613
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: it was just beautiful. We all played our role. Michael

614
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: Cooper was such a big played a big role in

615
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: US winning because Coop could have started for any team

616
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 2: in the league, could have started for any team, and

617
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: he decided that six man row was great for him

618
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: and he would shut everybody's whoever the high score was

619
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: on the opponent's team, he would take him and really

620
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: shut him down. So we just played so well together

621
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: and we were running and so showtime came in because

622
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 2: man I was coming down that fast breakdown the lake

623
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: and man I get the no looking left right, throwing

624
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: it between my legs behind my back, and then you

625
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: know the brothers Byron Duncan, James Duncan, Kareem Duncan, and

626
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: the people would just go crazy because I told them.

627
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: I said, listen, when I give it to you, I

628
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: did my part right. I got them up out their seats.

629
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 4: See, I got them up out their seat.

630
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: Now you gotta do the rest right now. If you

631
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: don't do the rest, I ain't gonna give it to you, don't.

632
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: So them brother said, we got it. We got it.

633
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 2: Heard they you used to call me buck? They fuck,

634
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: we got it. So they go in. I said, once

635
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 2: I give it to it, then they were finishing. Man

636
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: that people would go crazy. That where Showtime came in.

637
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: You know, it was a show within the game and

638
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: they started calling us the Showtime Lakers and it was beautiful.

639
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Hollywood Showtime, it's fitting. But also the

640
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: Laker girls they kind of the game for cheerleaders or

641
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them. Pola ab Duel was

642
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: a superstar, but she started as a Laker girl.

643
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: Speak to their.

644
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: Significance in I guess we call it cheerleading for the

645
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: NBA because.

646
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: They were the ship. Yes, and Doctor Bush created all

647
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: of that. Doctor Buss was a visionary who was a

648
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 2: guy who thought outside the box. And so he said,

649
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: you know what, I want to show the yes to

650
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: be the team. But we got to create entertainment. I'm

651
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: in the entertainment entertainment capital of the world, so I

652
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: want more happening during the game. So that's when he

653
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: had the young ladies come out and start dancing Paul

654
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: abdue of course, and then that just turned in to

655
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: something really special, and I mean it was just it

656
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: was just beautiful. Then he had Hugh Hefner come and

657
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: all the ladies was in lace and you know, the playmates.

658
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: Fo I mean, I tell people, I mean, what a

659
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: championship will go to state. But there's nothing in the

660
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: world like being a Laker. When you just sit on

661
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: the bench sometimes and look in the crowd, you'll see.

662
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: Anybody, anybody and anything anything.

663
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 4: I made sure I had thirty every time I played

664
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 4: the Lakers.

665
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's no place like It's still nothing like

666
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: going to a Laker game, you know. And so doctor

667
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 2: Bushdoll created all of that, and he was a genius

668
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: to buy the form the Lakers and the King for

669
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: sixty five million dollars and now that team is worth

670
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: four or five billion dollars. That's crazy, right, And so

671
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: you got to give him credit, and then Genie credit

672
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: right now for carrying on his his dream and what he.

673
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: Started agreed with all that success. Here comes the Pistons

674
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 4: and the Bulls. What was it like battling against Isaiah Michael?

675
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: Those were the Pistons were probably one of the best

676
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: defensive teams that probably played in the fire. There was physical,

677
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: that's what they were. So physical, but long when you

678
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: have people like Dennis and John Sally, I mean, you

679
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: get past you might get past Joe dumar but you

680
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: got both of them to get Mbert and lamberd he

681
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: would just slam you, I mean, just go to follow you.

682
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: And that three guard combination of Isaiah, Joe Dumars, and

683
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: Vinnie Johnson was unbelievable. And so we won one series

684
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: against them, and then in eighty eight, and then they

685
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: came back and beat us in eighty nine, and then Michael,

686
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: it was their turn. We were on the decline, they

687
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: were on their way up. And when we played them

688
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: in ninety one, you could tell that the Pistons had

689
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: prepared them for the championship. Michael was ready to finally win.

690
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: Scotty was ready to play his role as well, and

691
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 2: that's when they beat us and it started their run.

692
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: So you all have runs, right and so we had

693
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: our run, the Celtics had their run. It was the

694
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: Pistons turn, then the Bulls turn, and on and on

695
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: and on.

696
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: So we just had a recent debate on our show.

697
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: It was brought up by Freddie Gibbs. I don't you

698
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: were part of a dynasty? Was the Pistons team of dynasty?

699
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 2: When you went back to back? You got to say,

700
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: if they're not a dynasty, they're close to it, right,

701
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: because is it three times?

702
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: Is it three?

703
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: Is multiple?

704
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing in the rule book that determines what

705
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: a dynasty is.

706
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: That say, So, I guess it's up to every individual

707
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: to say what they think a dynasty is. But let

708
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: me tell you something, winning back to back is very difficult,

709
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: very difficult. So give them a lot of credit going

710
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 2: back to back and uh and show on people that

711
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 2: they were as good as advertised. So, especially with Isaiah's.

712
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: Leadership, when every time they do a top seventy five

713
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 4: or bring all the top players together, it's obvious that

714
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: you are the glue. Everybody comes around you magic. It

715
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 4: seemed like you keep everything together, like even all the

716
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 4: older guys, like everybody's around you. You got everybody laughing.

717
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 4: You just the life of the party. What's your take

718
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 4: on the back and forth with Isaiah and Mike right now?

719
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 2: I don't like it, right, I think they should be

720
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: done with that. Listen, we played. When we played, we

721
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: all had to dislike each other to win a championship.

722
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: We all had to do what we had to do.

723
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: But now what Michael is doing is incredible to be

724
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: an owner in the NBA to his shoe is still

725
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: number one. I mean, you can put all those guys

726
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 2: shoes sales together. They can't even mess with Michael Jordan's

727
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: shoes and so, and then Isaiah is a businessman himself,

728
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: one exactly all the things that he's doing.

729
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 4: So why why are we still living in the past.

730
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: Yes, I think only magic can fix that ship.

731
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 2: We're definitely gonna try, man, because they should be all

732
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: look up to both of them. We look up to

733
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: both of them. Yeah, and they're my boys, right right,

734
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: So I guess I'm gonna have to be the one

735
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: to bring them together. Culture.

736
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: We want to see Jezeke and Mike somewhere having to

737
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 4: drink together, man for the culture.

738
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: There there you go, join you there.

739
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

740
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety one, your career was halted, but you defied

741
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 4: the odds playing then All Star Game helped the Dream

742
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 4: Team win the goal, which was unbelievable. You know, we

743
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: taking our hats off to you many times, but this

744
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 4: was just the ultimate. What was your mental during that time?

745
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, when you go through a life threatening situation,

746
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: it definitely changes you. I'm always an up guy. That

747
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: was probably my lowest point in my life, and so

748
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 2: thank god that, you know, the medicine that was available

749
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: at that time could keep me here for a long

750
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: time as well as I did everything I had to

751
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: do to be here a long time, right, and so

752
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: and then when I think about playing on the Dream Team,

753
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: that was amazing because I've always wanted on my bucket list.

754
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: I just wanted one time to play with Larry and Michael,

755
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: just one time. And now I get a chance to

756
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 2: represent the country, play on the Dream Team, play with Michael,

757
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: make a pass to him, make a pass to Larry Bird,

758
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley, Scottie Pippen, Patrick Ewing, David Robinson, Clyde Drexler,

759
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: Chris Mullin Stockton. So it was really amazing for me

760
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: to be able to be on that team and us

761
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 2: crush everybody by forty and I think opened the game

762
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: up absolutely international players. That's right. It became a global

763
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: game after that. So uh, it was a true blessing.

764
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: And also to it, it helped me understand that I

765
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: was gonna be here a long time.

766
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: What were those practices like, I mean you hear you

767
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: see docuseries and docs they say, that's kind of when

768
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: you handed the torch over the mic. Because I'm sure

769
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: you guys got more out of the practices than you

770
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: got out of the game playing.

771
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: You're right, we practiced. Man. When you got that, you

772
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: got ten egos out on that court like in the world. Yes,

773
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 2: going at each other every single day. So one game

774
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: he decides to say, okay, the East versus the West.

775
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: So all the East guys Jordan, Pippin, Bird Barkley, and

776
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: Ewing Bam and then all the West guys my Loan, Robinson,

777
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: uh Drexler, Mullin and so we all played against each other.

778
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: So we were, man, we were going at each other

779
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: and talking stuff. So Charles Barkley took malone one time

780
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: and he scored. I said, come on, Carl, you got

781
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: to get.

782
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: His ass back.

783
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: On that block and get him back, so I threw

784
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: it to him. He scored, They come back, they scored,

785
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: We scored. So we were talking stuff. So finally we

786
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: got on a little run. So we scored about eight

787
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 2: in a row. They didn't score. Time out, so Michael

788
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: walking back. I don't usually talk trash, but I had

789
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: to that time. So I said, Michael, if you don't

790
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: turn into air Jordan, we're gonna blow y'all out.

791
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 5: Man.

792
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: He started sweating. That tongue went long.

793
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: You know where that tongue comes over, it's the problem.

794
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: He about. He about to do sothing. That dude came

795
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: out that time out. He scored about four straight threes,

796
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: and I went, oh, man. Then he came down. I

797
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: gotta show you this one. I don't hurt herself. I

798
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: won't hurt myself out. So he stole the basketball. He

799
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 2: coming down the right side, he takes off David Robinson

800
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: coming this way. So Mike just coughed and he just

801
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: looked at it in the air, and he kept looking.

802
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: He kept looking, he kept looking. He went all the

803
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 2: way down. Jack, he did a three sixty.

804
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: Man and done.

805
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 2: I said, that's it, that's it, it's over, that's him,

806
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: it's over now, that's so. So he just looked at

807
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: me too to let me know I'm coming. Your father,

808
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: your father, you know who got me to do this? You.

809
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: So we got upstairs and Larry Bird and not sitting down.

810
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: So he come in with his cigar.

811
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: Got so how does he right now? He's twenty six?

812
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: When he said, yeah young you know. Yeah, So I

813
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: just want you all to know that's a new sheriff

814
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: in time. Yeah, he says, it's my league. Now you

815
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: had your term, Larry Bird, you had your term. Now

816
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: it was my league. I love and we all bowed down.

817
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: I love it.

818
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 4: It wasn't never a time were you and even thought

819
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: about trying to play together.

820
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: Nothing. Ever, No, it wasn't like that, you know what.

821
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: I was wanting to compete.

822
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 6: Yeah.

823
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: I wasn't a guy like that.

824
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

825
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 2: I never wanted to play with nobody but my dudes.

826
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: I was good. And I've always been a dude wherever

827
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: I end up. That's why I'm rolling, you know. And

828
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 2: so even pick up games, I never tried to get

829
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: all the name dudes. I tried to just dudes who

830
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: want to play. Yeah, let's go, let's go. I like

831
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: that underdog thing. Anyway, come on, let's go beat these

832
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: dudes over here. And so that was always my mindset

833
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: and and I'm glad, but I would say this, that's

834
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: what makes.

835
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: Sports special, right Competitiveness.

836
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not you know, everybody joining each other, you know,

837
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: go make it. If you the best, you're gonna you

838
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: got to go up against them guys. Anyway, period. Forgive me.

839
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: I just flew in and I worked out this morning set.

840
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: I just trained Ben Hydra. Let me pee, give me

841
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: two seconds, right back two minutes, y'all talking about yourself.

842
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: I'll be right back.

843
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: I've been holding this shit in for thirty minutes.

844
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: Give me two minutes. I'll be right back right the bathroom.

845
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, Jack, I love it.

846
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: That's why your show, That's why your show is a

847
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: big anything happened. Nothing he does surprises me. Nothing he

848
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: does surprise me.

849
00:47:59,640 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 4: Bro.

850
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 2: Hey, I didn't see you over here. What's up boy?

851
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: How you feeling? Baby? Everything straight? You see? Let me

852
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: thank you for coming while you're here. Come on, pee,

853
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: everybody getting around the.

854
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: Plus and Paul pills for two then a little of

855
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: it on look.

856
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: The two in the city. You burning my mic Give

857
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: me give my mind.

858
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 6: All right, hold on, I'm gonna say just one story.

859
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 5: Tell them when you took over the Magic Johnson.

860
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: South that.

861
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 6: No, look quick, this was when when we're talking about

862
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 6: the U s L A pick up runs. So this

863
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 6: is when Magic was retired and Matt played up there

864
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 6: in common imagine used to come up there with his

865
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 6: own team. He bring his own five a bunch of

866
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 6: old dudes here tired. I'm a young dude in the league.

867
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 6: I'm a rookie. So he never I never seen him

868
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 6: lose a game and a pick of runs. And this

869
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 6: is Magic about ten years retired already. So he come.

870
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 6: I'm guarding him in the post. The game is tied

871
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 6: up six six, we go on to seven. I'm like,

872
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 6: all right, I got a Magic. Magic go up, shoot

873
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 6: the hook. I challenge the shot. He missed the hook,

874
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 6: We get the rebound, throw it ahead, we score, game over.

875
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 6: Magic looked down like, no, no, that don't count.

876
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: That's a foul.

877
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: He brings out back. He said, y'all bring down back.

878
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: He looked at me.

879
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 6: He looked at me like you know, like you know,

880
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 6: that's some foul on your collar.

881
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: How you go to touch them? They put the ball

882
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 2: in to get the.

883
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 6: Ball back of the post, shoot the hook and win

884
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 6: the game.

885
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: I ain't no way you can be master. Now, hey,

886
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: where you going? So so so the were all my

887
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 2: little brothers, right so, Paul, Reggie Miller, all the guys

888
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: playing up there, Oh yeah, my main man. And so

889
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: I always told them I'm gonna teach them one thing,

890
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: and that's to understand that everything is not gonna go

891
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: that way in the league. So the reason I called

892
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: that file was to make him stronger at the end

893
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: of the day, right right, right, and Reggie yourself, everybody

894
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 2: remember all them stories. But the things that I wanted

895
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: to do happen. Look at all of my champions, all

896
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: them doing great in life, and so we we we

897
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: used to love. Man, those games and those pick up

898
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: games are legendary. Will never be anything like that ever again.

899
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 2: And man, remember people had to set out, couldn't even

900
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: play sometime. Come on, man, yeah, I like that.

901
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: I heard you'll check check said she didn't walk up here.

902
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 2: Paul ended up taking over Magic's game. That's right, stop,

903
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: they're in their.

904
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 4: Let me and I get invited to the Magic Johnson

905
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 4: Classic after he didn't passes to him and beat yeah,

906
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 4: this one, and it went. It went from a celebrity

907
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: game in the in the staples. Everybody's there, players having

908
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 4: a good time, gatorade on the sideline, when I I'm

909
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: there and they in control of it.

910
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: All the players got double cussed with back on them

911
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 3: on the side.

912
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: Everybody's taking back on the.

913
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: Thanks, thank you.

914
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: Yes, it was a good two year round. I supposed

915
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 2: to come after Magic. Yeah, you feel the man? Oh

916
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 2: my god, And I heard.

917
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean obviously Paul told you stories. This is what

918
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: I so, this is me again, idolizing this man coming

919
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: to college that just turned eighteen, and Magic is playing

920
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: pickup games with us. But I quickly learned you can

921
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: never beat man. Bring up that never beat it was,

922
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: bring it back. You can contaest it, play good defense

923
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: and not phallum. But if it's point game, you're never

924
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: gonna store that point ever.

925
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 2: But you know what, that's every O g everything that's

926
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: right every night.

927
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: At some point you just stopped getting.

928
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: At some point you just stop getting mad. Hold on,

929
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: hold on. So now I'm not playing no more. I'm

930
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: on the sideline. Guess who calling all the fouls?

931
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: And Reggie, I mean those are some legendary games. I

932
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: mean talking about there's rumors that you know, Will came

933
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: up there one time and you guys were talking ship

934
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: back and forth, and.

935
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: Listen, we had summer runs. Great player came to U.

936
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: Sall a later play, Moses Malone, you name it. They

937
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: all came up, Dominique, Isaiah Mark, you name them. They

938
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: all came to run. And uh, I remember a keem

939
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: came and a keem was late, and you know, we

940
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: had a rule you can't come after a certain time.

941
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: You can't get on a team because it was so

942
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: many NBA players. That's a keem though, So I know

943
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 2: that's what everybody said to right, And I said, man,

944
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, man, they already got all the teams and

945
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: we're playing. Man. Do you know he got so mad

946
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: the next day he came. Remember he blocked He must

947
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: have blocked about twenty shots. I mean, he just was

948
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 2: so upset. He said, Magic, I just want to play,

949
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 2: and you didn't let me played. So he just dominated

950
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: the action. I mean, that's that's how great it was

951
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: picked up games back in the day.

952
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: So we get back to this talking about this all

953
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: transitioning from basketball. You end up calling it quits in

954
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: ninety six and transitioning into business, and your focus was

955
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: investing black and you know, revitalizing communities. Before we get

956
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: into that, talked to us about some of your mentors,

957
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: because you had mentors that were kind of running the game,

958
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: and how important that was to your success after basketball.

959
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 2: Well, Matt, you know, listen, I knew basketball, but in

960
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 2: no business. So I wanted to make sure I surrounded

961
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: myself with people who knew business that could teach me business.

962
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: So doctor Jerry Buss later on the Lakers became my

963
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: first mentor, Michael Ovitz, all these different men, Howard Schulzer,

964
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: Starbucks became my mentors because I wanted to pick their

965
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: brain on what made them successful so I could get

966
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: that knowledge and then build my businesses in the black community.

967
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: So they gave me the knowledge that I needed so

968
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: that then I could take it to the hood, yes,

969
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 2: and build my business, but also put people of color

970
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: to work. Once I got all the information that I needed,

971
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: I started with the number one thing that we were

972
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: doing back then with our family, which was going to

973
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: the movies. So I did a deal with Sony and

974
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: I built Magic Johnson Theaters. Because I did the research.

975
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: We were the number one group of people going to

976
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: the movies, but there were no movies in our movie

977
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: theaters in our community. So I built movie theaters and man,

978
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: my first theaters came in top ten highest grosing theaters

979
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: in the nation, the first theater I built, and I

980
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: knew then. I said, oh, I'm gonna be successful. And

981
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: so after that success, I went up to Seattle and

982
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: told Howard Shows that black people we like coffee too, right,

983
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: and we love we like coffee too, And so I said,

984
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: let's build some Starbucks in our community. And sure enough,

985
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: we did a deal that's still unbelievable today where he

986
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: allowed me to build one hundred and twenty five Starbucks

987
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 2: in forty different markets across the United States, proving people wrong.

988
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 2: Because everybody thought it wouldn't work in the black community,

989
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: and we proved everybody wrong. It did work. I made

990
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 2: some little tweaks to the desserts because we don't eat scone.

991
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: So I took the stones out and put in peace Cobb.

992
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: Listen.

993
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: That resonate with our community. And sure enough, it wasn't

994
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 2: just for the Starbucks. It also became a meeting place

995
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: in the black community. We didn't have meeting places in

996
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 2: our community where we can meet our friends, or our

997
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: mothers could meet her girlfriend and so on, and so

998
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: Starbucks became a meeting place and it was beautiful. Man.

999
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: So that's what jump started my business career. And so

1000
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: sure enough it took off from there.

1001
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: One business deal that didn't come to fruition for you, Nike.

1002
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 1: You offered the Nike deal and today the estimated worth

1003
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: would have been five point two billion. I mean, you're

1004
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: doing fine, but talks us about that Nike situation though.

1005
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: The reason why you changed thanks a lot, Matt. He

1006
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: still gotta be Yeah. So here, I am just winning

1007
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: the national championship against Larry Bird, and three companies came in,

1008
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: so Converse, Adidas, and Nike. Nike was just a year

1009
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: or two old, and so Converse offered me the most money.

1010
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 2: So you know, when you grow, you take the money.

1011
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: So Phil Knight came in and said, hey, I can't

1012
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: offer you the same type of money, but I can

1013
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: offer you stock were trying to hear that. Then I

1014
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: wasn't trying and I didn't know nothing about it. And

1015
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: my family didn't come for money. See, that's one thing

1016
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: that hurt us sometimes when you don't come from money,

1017
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: you don't know what I didn't even know what stocks

1018
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: was at that time. R so I passed on the stocks.

1019
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: Can you imagine forty five years five billion dollars stock

1020
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: would have been worth today.

1021
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: But like Jackson, the reason, yeah, you're the reason why

1022
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: we wore Converse though, because I got me a pair

1023
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: of magics too, But no one would have touched Converse.

1024
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: I got five from the But let me say this.

1025
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: You know when you don't know something that's okay. It's

1026
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: when you know and then you mean you mistake. But

1027
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm also a guy who never looks back. I live

1028
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: in the moment to see. I hate people who talk

1029
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: about what happened thirty years ago or I used to

1030
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: have it going on what are you doing now? It's

1031
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: about what you're doing now, see, And so I'm a

1032
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: person who live in the moment, and I'm always moving forward,

1033
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: always moving forward. And if something happened to me that

1034
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 2: wasn't good, I leave it in the past and I

1035
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: keep moving forward. See, I love it. And so that's

1036
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: who I am.

1037
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: So they're telling us our time, can we get I

1038
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: know it's past your bedtime. Can we get fifteen ft one.

1039
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: We just a couple of war. We're gonna get through this, Okay. Well,

1040
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: shout out to legends. Obviously you're one of the greatest legends.

1041
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to name some legends right now and talk

1042
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: to us about each one of these individuals.

1043
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant, oh Special, special on the court, special off

1044
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: the court. Kobe changed the game, man, Kobe changed Los

1045
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: Angeles to NBA. He would work out with anybody, high school,

1046
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: young lady, young man. He worked out. Yeah. He loved

1047
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: the game like we all loved it. He was twenty

1048
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: four to seven involved. So we missing even today, so

1049
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: we should clap for no rest in peace of it.

1050
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: Our brother absolutely, Muhammad Ali.

1051
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: Man, he was special because my father we used to

1052
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: go to the theater before they had paid per view,

1053
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: they had that other thing closed circuit, so we used

1054
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: to We used to go to the theater to watch

1055
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: Ali fight or listen to it on the radio with

1056
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 2: my father. And the first thing I always wanted to

1057
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 2: do when I finally signed my contract with the Lakers

1058
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: was to go to an Ali fight. And I got

1059
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: a chance after my rookie season that summer he was fighting,

1060
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: and man, it was the greatest moment because I also

1061
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 2: got a chance to meet him, and because what he

1062
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: stood for and he was a proud black man that

1063
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: they gave us all a sense of pride. And what

1064
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: he was able to do, not only in the boxing ring,

1065
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: but outside of it too. It was amazing. This one

1066
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 2: right here.

1067
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: Talk to us about the pajama parties that Prince used

1068
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: to throw into Magic Johnson Theater.

1069
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: Matt, you brought up something nobody brings up.

1070
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: Man.

1071
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 2: So I'm at the crib. Here we go, and my

1072
01:01:52,600 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: phone and my phone ring, and I said, hello, Magic Prince,

1073
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: I said, the Prince, Prince, Prince, and he said yeah,

1074
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: I said, what's up? He said, Man, I want to

1075
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 2: come to your movie theater about two am in the morning.

1076
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 2: I said, Prince, we closed at two am. He said,

1077
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: I know. That's why I want to come. And I

1078
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 2: want to bring my own people to the theater. And

1079
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: I said, okay, let me make this happen. So we

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01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 2: get to the theater. He has a big bus and

1081
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 2: they all are in pajamas, right, and he got to drink.

1082
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 2: He got everything. They go in. We had the popcorn, everything,

1083
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: and we just let him have it. Man, and he

1084
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: stayed there till four or five in the morning watching movies.

1085
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: It was so much fun. He just kept calling me,

1086
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: kept doing it. But you know what was cool. My

1087
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: greatest was going on tour with him, and then going

1088
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: on tour with Michael Jackson.

1089
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

1090
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: Man, I went on tour with Michael. It's different, right twice,

1091
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: and so we have the last two floors of the

1092
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: hotel so they could run around and play and have fun. Right,

1093
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 2: So the limos go out, so it's thousands of women

1094
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: screaming out front. So when the limos pull out, they

1095
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 2: all think we in the limos, So all the girls

1096
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 2: start chasing the limbos down the street. So we would

1097
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: go down the elevator and get in some white vans.

1098
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: Nobody even knew when we're in the buns. Right, we

1099
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 2: pull up, they already dressed and ready to go on stage.

1100
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: And man, that's where I decided I had to be

1101
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 2: even better as a basketball player. Michael Jackson, Wow, it's

1102
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: never been nobody like him. This dude would be in

1103
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: a mirror for two hours just working on his moves

1104
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: and it was unbelievable. So that was one of my

1105
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: greatest moments torn with him. And then torn with friends

1106
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 2: and see him how they just turn it out unbelievable.

1107
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: Get myself back together. Talking about the Kobe stuff kind

1108
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: of took me.

1109
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you experienced some of the highs and the lows,

1110
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 4: but you prevailed through it all. If it's one thing

1111
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 4: that you could oh some advice that you can give

1112
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,479
Speaker 4: anybody in here about life and dealing with ups and downs,

1113
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 4: what would it be, Jack?

1114
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna have ups and downs in life, right,

1115
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 2: It's how you deal with them, how you come through them.

1116
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 2: I'm a guy who just meets things head on and

1117
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 2: then I don't make excuses. Yeah you know, I'm accountable

1118
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: for everything I've ever done, and so if it's my fault,

1119
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you it's my fault. I'm not a guy,

1120
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: like I said, who make excuses. So I would say,

1121
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 2: you know, just focus on getting better. Like my whole

1122
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: thing in life now is in twenty two. I don't

1123
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: want to be the same man in twenty three, right,

1124
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 2: So how can I improve as a father, a husband,

1125
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 2: a businessman, on and on and on. So I'm about

1126
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: self improvement, right and getting better, and so that's what

1127
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: we all should be focused on. And if we can

1128
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 2: do that, then we're gonna be okay. And even when

1129
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: that bad time come, we'll handle it and then we'll

1130
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: move on, you know, cause it's gonna come. Disappointment always comes,

1131
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: change always comes, but it's how we deal with it, right.

1132
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 2: And so I've always been a guy just meeting head

1133
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 2: on and just keep moving, you know. I mean both

1134
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: of you have been through something. But look where you

1135
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: are now, right And the George Floyd thing, what you did,

1136
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 2: let's give him a hand man, well, Steven did, but

1137
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 2: that you are a true leader and made us all

1138
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 2: take notice and make us all get involved. And that's

1139
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 2: what I love about you, you know. And so the

1140
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: things you've been dealing with, see you talk about me.

1141
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 2: You've been dealing with something. Your brother just passed and

1142
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 2: you're still sitting here. See that, that's that shows a

1143
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 2: sign of strength. And we know your heart is heavy,

1144
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 2: but you still coming to work, You still grinding, You're

1145
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 2: still doing what you have to do. See that, that's

1146
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 2: that's a that's a blessing. So always remember this. Somebody

1147
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: is watching, right See somebody is watching. Somebody is watching,

1148
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: and that's either your your your friends, your kids. See

1149
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 2: see for black men. It's so important that we excel

1150
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: because somebody at home is watching. See, our little men

1151
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 2: are are watching. And so it's a blessing when my

1152
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 2: kids tell me, Dad, I'm only successful because I saw you,

1153
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 2: So that makes me feel good. My daughter got her

1154
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 2: own eyewear line, but she said, you taught me that

1155
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 2: I could do this, and so that's a beautiful thing. See.

1156
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 2: So again, we're doing it. We're doing it man, And

1157
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: you got big boys sitting here. And I saw him

1158
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: be number one in this market. And then he went

1159
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: simulcast one of the first dudes. I mean to take

1160
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 2: a show nationwide, worldwide. I mean he go to Japan,

1161
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: they go crazy and all was So that's what it's about.

1162
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: So that's why it's special. See, I'm gonna do I

1163
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 2: give it up. See, I ain't trying to just oh,

1164
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: be focused on me. No, I like to give it up.

1165
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: When when brothers are doing great things, that empowers me too.

1166
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 2: So remember that. So listen, this show is unbelievable. And

1167
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 2: they talk about they wasn't superstar. No, they superstar. See,

1168
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: you don't have to always be the best at one thing. See,

1169
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: that's not the mark of a great man. It's whether

1170
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 2: you could be the best at other things or two

1171
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 2: things or three things. How can you reinvent yourself? Man,

1172
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 2: you guys are killing it, killing it, killing killing imagine.

1173
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: We want to thank you for your time tonight, obviously

1174
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: knowing how busy you are and just the man you are,

1175
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: you know the way, like you said, you're responsible for

1176
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: all your actions and that's respectable. The barriers you've broken,

1177
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: the wall, you know, the heights you've achieved. We need

1178
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: to see it to believe it. And you're someone that

1179
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: has continued to show us that it's possible, and we want.

1180
01:08:59,160 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 2: To thank you for that.

1181
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: And man, that's the luck. Yes, sir, I'd love to

1182
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: see you as the owner of the NBA team one day.

1183
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. That'd be great. I appreciate it. But

1184
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 2: how can we get some money with you?

1185
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that.

1186
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: You can definitely do that. Yeah, we're all three invest

1187
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 2: in something and it's gonna it's gonna win too.

1188
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 1: Man, that's a wrap all the smoke, the one that

1189
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: only managed n do it all.

1190
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 2: Appreciate your baby, Thank you, m you boy now you

1191
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 2: know that. Thank you, love you John, you know, thanks

1192
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 2: for having