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Speaker 1: chronicled at length on this program. It's a media, Uh,

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Speaker 1: they just love anything anti Trump exactly. It is a breathlessness,

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Speaker 1: They don't know it yet and they don't want to

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Speaker 1: be wrong. What they do every single time is they

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Speaker 1: overreact whatever the news of the day happens to me,

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Speaker 1: and the news of the day as well. Paul Manafort

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Speaker 1: supposed to be investigating Trump Russia collusion. Well, guess what,

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Speaker 1: ever knew Paul Manafort, because Judge Jellis got it right.

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Speaker 1: Judge Jellis said, you're not after Manafort in his taxes

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Speaker 1: Right now. They're recommending six months in jail anyway, which

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Speaker 1: again income tax fraud. I think there was one point

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Speaker 1: So we're in all of this. Is the Russia thing?

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Speaker 1: Hannity is talking about Hillary I'm talking. Why is that important?

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Speaker 1: Good question? Media. It's important because if Hillary has subpoena

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Speaker 1: it relates to James Comey. You know, James Comey made

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Speaker 1: for Lockheed Martin. They had contracts with the FBI and

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Speaker 1: guess who the FBI director at the time was, Robert Mueller. Wow.

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Speaker 1: from him working for Lockheed Martin, and that was in

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Speaker 1: all important. I'm not even suggesting anything the farious is here.

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Speaker 1: in the Business Insider in Politico. I mean I'm watching Lanny.

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Speaker 1: I mean Lanny needs to get off TV uh because

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Speaker 1: I don't think he helped his client today. And I've

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Speaker 1: known Landing many years. Big Clinton sickopant hates Donald Trump.

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00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: I get he's got a political agenda, but even still,

431
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Speaker 1: you gotta represent your client. I mean to say, Hey, well, Nick,

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Speaker 1: he won't accept the pardon. I'm like, all right, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if anyone's ever talked to him about it

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I doubt it. I would just say that's

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Speaker 1: not smart, because I'm betting the guy that actually asked

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Speaker 1: to spend the time in jail probably would take it.

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00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: Just guessing anyway, Davis said today the Cone knew of

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Speaker 1: efforts by Trump to conspire with Russia to rig the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen presidential election. Okay, well, then bring out the information.

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00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: Why hasn't it come out anyway? Stop the presses. Wait

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Speaker 1: till Mueller finally finds out that Colne is ready to

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00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: flip on Trump. Oh we did know that before. There's

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00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: only one problem. Mueller could have kept the Cone case

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00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: to himself, but he decided to pass it along to

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00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: the Southern District of New York. There's a reason for that.

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00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: And just because Lannie Davis, the biggest Clinton sycophen in

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00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: the country, is running around week after week and every

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00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: microphone and camera can get in front of doesn't make

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00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: any of it true. If Mueller was even remotely interested,

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00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: he would have contacted Lanty and his client well before

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Speaker 1: yesterday's plea bargain and the fact that Mueller hasn't contacted

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Speaker 1: Lanti speaks volumes about what Mueller thinks of Cohne's value

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Speaker 1: as a witness. Apparently New York investigators are now subpoena

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Speaker 1: in Cone in a Trump Foundation thing because of I

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Speaker 1: guess Lanni's comments or somebody's comments. I'm like, Okay, I

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00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: guess Andrew Cuomo is pretty piste off at the comments

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Speaker 1: that he made about America was never great. Now he's

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Speaker 1: going to start a fight with Trump. Okay, here we

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00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: go again. Equal justice under the law. You know, um,

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Speaker 1: The American Spectator had a great piece. Actually, Man of

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Speaker 1: Fort and Cone are Mueller's ham sandwiches. Interesting, good job

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Speaker 1: today of explaining the absolute irrelevance of Robert Mueller's so

463
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: called wins yesterday. Now, for all the media's owing and

464
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: eyeing over the legal victories here for Muller, well, he

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Speaker 1: still didn't win on ten counts in the Manifor case.

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Speaker 1: And nobody talks about that. Nobody talks about Bernie being

467
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: cheated out of the nomination and a fixed primary. Nobody

468
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: seems to want to talk about the lies to the

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00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 1: FISA court Nobody wants to talk about the obstruction of Hillary.

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00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to talk about American people lied to in

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Speaker 1: the general election, about Trump visa VI paid for dossier

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00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: that was never reported as a campaign expended jure. But whatever,

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Speaker 1: for all the for all of that, though, in terms

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Speaker 1: of the Department of Justice mandate, he's made no process

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Speaker 1: progress whatsoever. He's presiding over a Russia collusion probe that

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00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with collusion or Russia. So I

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00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: guess mother is gonna keep indicting and convicting ham sandwiches.

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00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: In other words, if you're friends with Trump, your ham sandwich.

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00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: Most Americans, I'm telling you, they're gonna get over this

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Speaker 1: very quickly, much to the chagrin of the corrupt media.

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00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you what it's gonna do. Like usual,

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00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: they have overreached in their hysteria, their impeachment fever that

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00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: they're trying to build up in the country. But the

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00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: people that actually voted for the president, they see that, Oh,

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00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: Manafort and Cone, tax and bank issues were before the campaign.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have anything to do with Russia. They didn't

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00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: have anything to do with Trump. I gotta say, Okay,

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00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: we see this for what it is because American people

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00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: are smart. But it's also gonna do It's gonna piss off.

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Speaker 1: You watch over time, seventies six days, a lot of

491
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Speaker 1: time to get piste off. And if the Trump base

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Speaker 1: gets piste off enough at the unfair treatment and the

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Speaker 1: lack of equal justice under the law and no equal

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Speaker 1: application of our laws, guess what they're gonna do in

495
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: a mid term. They're gonna get their asses out of

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00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: bed and out of their houses and out of their apartments.

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00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: And all those smelly Walmart people that cling to their God,

498
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Speaker 1: their guns, their Bible, their religion, all the irredeemable deplorables

499
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: are gonna say enough of this crap, and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: go vote. And guess what's not gonna happen. Nancy Pelosi,

501
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: if that happens, is not gonna be speaker, and all

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00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: the stuff that they want Obama care to stay, getting

503
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: rid of ice, open borders, getting their crumbs back, ending

504
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: the investigations into the deep state, and impeaching Trump will

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00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: all go away. Because the same people have voted for Trump,

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Speaker 1: that are happy with the results of Trump, that see

507
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: the injustice and the double standard, they're gonna tell they're

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00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: basically gonna flip the bird to all of the media

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Speaker 1: and all the destroy Trump. You know, the literal institutions

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00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: that are building up in this country. So let Muller

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00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: keep convicting and indicting ham sandwiches. Most Americans are not

512
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: gonna care, and it's gonna piss them off, and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna motivate them. By the way, the judge in the

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Speaker 1: Flint case is now expressing frustration over now what the

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Speaker 1: fourth delay in his sentence sing what did he do

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00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: light to the FBI? But the FBI agents that interviewed

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00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: him didn't think he was lying, and neither had called me.

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00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: You see, I mean, I think people are pretty smart.

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00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: And people also gonna start asking what what about Hannity

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00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 1: stuff and Greg Jared's stuff and Sarah Carter's stuff. They

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00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: got the emails, they got the proof, they got the evidence.

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Speaker 1: Nobody says they're wrong because they're not. When are we

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Speaker 1: gonna get to those crimes? That's all coming to amatter.

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Speaker 1: For it's a good man. He was with Ronald Reagan.

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Speaker 1: He was with a lot of different people over the years,

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Speaker 1: and I feel very sad about that. Uh, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: involve me, but I still feel you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: very sad thing that happens. This has nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with Russian collusion. This started as Russian collusion. This has

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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to do There's a witch hunt and it's

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00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: a disgrace, but this has nothing to do what they

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00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: started out looking for Russians involved in our campaign. There

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00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: were done. It's the way it ends up. And it

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00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: was not the original mission, believe me, it was. It

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00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: was something very much different. So I had nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with Russian collusion. We continue the witch hunt, fake

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00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: news and the Russian witch hunt. We got a whole

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00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: big combination. Where is the collusion? You know, they're still

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00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: looking for collusion. Where is the collusion? Finds some collusion.

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Speaker 1: We want to find the collusion. All right, that was

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Speaker 1: the President last night, uh talking about um, well, there's

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Speaker 1: no collusion, which we have been saying over and over again.

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Speaker 1: Glad you're with us eight nine for one, Shawn told

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00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: free telephone number you want to be a part of

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Speaker 1: the program. Look, as I've been saying, this is ostensibly

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Speaker 1: now as it relates to all issues involving Michael Cone.

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Speaker 1: In spite of what the media is telling you, because

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Speaker 1: Michael Cone said in this in this plea agreement at

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00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 1: the direction of Trump, but he had said over and

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00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: over and over again the opposite. So there is not

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Speaker 1: even there's there's not even the hint of any issue

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Speaker 1: in terms of that anybody is looking to use what

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Speaker 1: he said this time as it relates to that um

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Speaker 1: versus what he had said in the past, or would

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Speaker 1: it have any credibility because then it would come up, well,

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Speaker 1: you said on this occasion, this, on this occasion, this,

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Speaker 1: on this occasion, this, did you tell this person? Did

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00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: you tell that person? There's a tape of you saying

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Speaker 1: this and that. So I think my my analysis of

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Speaker 1: this is I think they wanted that just that was

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00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of a hook and if you give

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Speaker 1: us that will give you a better deal. That's my interpretation.

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Speaker 1: I have no facts to back that up, but my

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00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: analysis of what probably went on. But if you go

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00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: to Lieutenant General Flynn lying to the FBI, Papadoppola's lying

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Speaker 1: to the FBI, nothing to do with Russia. If you

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Speaker 1: look at the tax fraud case and bank fraud cases

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00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: of Manafort and Cone, nothing to do at all with Russia.

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Speaker 1: With Trump, with the sixteen campaign. Nothing, no collusion, no conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: As it relates to the two other issues. Michael was

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Speaker 1: repeatedly on record saying that he did that on his own,

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Speaker 1: without the knowledge of the president. Um, we have gotten

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a preview of the interview that

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Speaker 1: took place, I guess earlier today. We're gonna air parts

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Speaker 1: of it tonight on Hannity on Fox News, Uh, Fox

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Speaker 1: and Friends is Ainsley Earhardt asked the question of the president,

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Speaker 1: and he said he knew later he didn't know at

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Speaker 1: the time. We actually have that tape. Did you know

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Speaker 1: about the payment later on? I knew later on. But

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Speaker 1: you have to understand Ansley what he did. And they

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Speaker 1: weren't taken out of campaign finance. That's a big thing.

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Speaker 1: That's a much bigger thing. Did they come out of

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Speaker 1: the campaign. They didn't come out of the campaign. They

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Speaker 1: came from me, and I tweeted about it, you know,

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Speaker 1: I put I don't know if you know, but I

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Speaker 1: tweeted about the payments. But they didn't come out of

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Speaker 1: the campaign. In fact, my first question when I heard

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Speaker 1: about it was did they come out of the campaign,

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Speaker 1: because that could be a little dicey, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: come out of the campaign, and that's big, but they weren't.

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Speaker 1: That's not a it's not even a campaign violation. If

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Speaker 1: you look at President Obama, he had a massive campaign violation,

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Speaker 1: but he had a different Attorney general and they viewed

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Speaker 1: it a lot different. Yeah, that was a two million

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Speaker 1: dollar campaign violation, one of the largest fines ever paid fine,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't turn it into what this became from

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Speaker 1: Michael Cohn. All Right, Greg Jarrett, author of the number

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Speaker 1: on book three weeks and running now in the New

599
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: York Times bestseller list of Russian hoax ilicit scheme to

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Speaker 1: clear Hillary Clinton and framed Donald Trump. Also, Bruce Marks

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00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: is with us. He is a U S attorney, has

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Speaker 1: twenty years experience UM by the way, with an office

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Speaker 1: in Moscow. He has been the lead counsel in significant

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Speaker 1: litigation against Russian oligarchs, including one guy by the name

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Speaker 1: of Oleg Derris Posca and others who are now literally

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Speaker 1: on the sanctions list. And his name has come up

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Speaker 1: quite a bit. And thank you both for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Let's first ask you, Greg. Let's go over look this

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Speaker 1: as far as Michael Cohen and his issues. Basically, that

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Speaker 1: case is over as it relates to the president, isn't it? Well,

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00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: it should be. Although you know, I was amused to

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Speaker 1: hear Lenny Davis today say this on our air quote

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Speaker 1: because Cohen played guilty to a crime, then Trump is

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Speaker 1: guilty of the same crime. And that is a stunningly

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Speaker 1: two statement from a lawyer who went to Yale Law

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Speaker 1: School and by the way, he was classmate was Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: Mr Davis seems to have forgotten that little thing called

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00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: UH innocent until proven guilty, and that thing called a

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00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: trial in which the trial of fact, the jury actually

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00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: decides guilt or innocence. UH. It must be there must

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Speaker 1: be evidence, proof beyond a reasonable doubt to I mean,

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Speaker 1: what Landy David said today was incredibly untrue and deceptive

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Speaker 1: and misleading to viewers who were watching. Well, I agree.

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Speaker 1: What's your take from an attorney's point of view, Bruce?

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Speaker 1: You had twenty years experience with UH, and you have

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Speaker 1: an office in Moscow, and you know some of these

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Speaker 1: Russian oligarchs like Oleg dry Posca and some of the

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Speaker 1: others that we have talked about that are now on

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Speaker 1: the sanctions list. UH. I don't see anything in any

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Speaker 1: of these issues that have anything in any way related

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Speaker 1: to Russia. Now, I do believe Putin as a hostile

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Speaker 1: actor and bad guy, and this is a hostile regime,

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Speaker 1: and I believe. Yeah, they've tried to influence elections, not

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Speaker 1: only ours, over many elections, but over the but over

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Speaker 1: the world as well. And they've tried to influence elections

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Speaker 1: all over the place. And I think they're trying it again. Now, Um,

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Speaker 1: what do you what do you suspect? Well, listen, let

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Speaker 1: me say one thing. First, I did file racketeering claims

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Speaker 1: against Oligherty POSCA and also Victor Wexelberg, who was also

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Speaker 1: now on the sanctions list. The Trump administration has been

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Speaker 1: stronger against the Russians than any other administration. They have

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Speaker 1: finally sank in serious oligarchs who are croased close to

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Speaker 1: the Kremlin. Uh. If you compare that to you know,

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Speaker 1: President Obama's administration after Crimea was invaded, he really did

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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. So I think it's an important point for

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Speaker 1: people to understand that the Trump administration has taken sanctions

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Speaker 1: against Russia very seriously. Yeah, well, I think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: when it was irresponsible, especially in light of Washington Times

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Speaker 1: piece by Devin Nowness warning us about Russia interfering in

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Speaker 1: the sixteen elections. He wrote that in the Obama in

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Speaker 1: October is telling Donald Trump to stop whining. And no

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Speaker 1: serious person could ever think that any country could ever

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Speaker 1: impact our elections in any way. Looks like Obama was

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Speaker 1: fully confident at that moment that Hillary was going to

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Speaker 1: be the next president. Well, let me tell you one

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Speaker 1: thing his administration didn't do, and I think Greg will

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Speaker 1: know this name. In two thousand and fifteen, I came

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Speaker 1: to them, to the FBI, to give them evidence that

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Speaker 1: Victor p Chuk, who was the largest largest force foreign

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Speaker 1: donor to the Clinton Foundation and the sudden law of

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Speaker 1: Ukraine's former rupt president, was violating international law in trading

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Speaker 1: with Iran. And they did absolutely nothing to investigate that,

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Speaker 1: which was a tie both to Ukrainian illegality and to

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Speaker 1: the clicking campaigns. Well, what's your reaction to this, Greg?

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's nothing in anything involving Manifort or

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Speaker 1: Cone or even that. There's no connection to Trump and

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Speaker 1: Russia collusion in any way, shape, matter of form. There

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Speaker 1: are two questions that arise from this. How does it

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Speaker 1: evolve into and why why did Rod Rosenstein give such

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Speaker 1: a wide berth that they can literally now begin tax

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Speaker 1: charges and and what bank fraud charges and and campaign

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Speaker 1: finance regulations and get so afar from what the original

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Speaker 1: mandate we were told was supposed to be about. And

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Speaker 1: you know, now I'm listening to guys like Bruce and

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Speaker 1: he's telling me that there's a much bigger problem that

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Speaker 1: we ought to be focused on, and we're not. Well,

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Speaker 1: Rosenstein has a lot to answer for. I spoke with

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Speaker 1: a d o J former official today who said that

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Speaker 1: his practice was almost entirely doing federal election law at

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Speaker 1: the d o J. He said, these payments by Trump

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Speaker 1: are not criminal, They're not a violation of the law.

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Speaker 1: And he said, but Rosenstein would have had to have

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Speaker 1: signed off on this, uh, And he said, it's inexplicable

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Speaker 1: that he would allow his Department of Justice to approve

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Speaker 1: criminal charges for a non crime. Trump can spend an

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Speaker 1: unlimited amount of money of his of his own on

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Speaker 1: a campaign. There's no limit. And let's say, for example,

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Speaker 1: that Cohen made a payment for him, but with the

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Speaker 1: intent of being reimbursed, and we know he was reimbursed.

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Speaker 1: That's alone, at worst, just a civil violation um And

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Speaker 1: as I pointed out with you last night on your

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Speaker 1: television program. If these payments serve a dual purpose, a

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Speaker 1: secondary purpose, that's not a campaign expense. Trump had other

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Speaker 1: reasons for making the payments personal and commercial, and don't

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Speaker 1: just take my word for it. The former Federal Elections

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Speaker 1: Commissioned Chairman Bradley Smith wrote an op ed UH, pointing

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Speaker 1: out the same thing, that these minds of payments are

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Speaker 1: a personal expense, they're not a campaign expense. What is

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Speaker 1: your take from a legal standpoint? As you watch, you know,

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Speaker 1: these two cases unfold here, Bruce Marks. From from my perspective,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a big nothing for Robert Muller and

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Speaker 1: and nobody really paid attention that he lost ten and

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Speaker 1: only got eight convictions and uh, which also tells you

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Speaker 1: that he just overcharges. They just over and over and overcharge.

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Speaker 1: And I think they always feel, well, we don't get

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Speaker 1: you here, we'll get you there, We get you here,

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Speaker 1: we'll get you there. And it just doesn't seem at

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Speaker 1: that point about justice to me. No, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's about justice at all. I mean, I'm a little

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Speaker 1: concerned maybe to be on the program here and there,

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Speaker 1: because I do business in Russia and maybe Mr Nolan

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Speaker 1: will become knocking a you know, my door. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's just remember, trust me, he's gonna be knocking on

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Speaker 1: Greg and my door before yours. Trust me. You know

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Speaker 1: it is uh it. The whole thing to me is sad.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're Michael Comb, Paul Manafort, George Pompadopolos, Lieutenant general

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Speaker 1: in uh just by the fact that you're in Trump's

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Speaker 1: orbit and this whole witch hunt about Russia comes up,

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Speaker 1: then every aspect of your life selectively gets chosen out.

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Speaker 1: And I believe in every case it was for the

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Speaker 1: purpose of putting the screws to people so they singer

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Speaker 1: composed to prosecutor and peach Trump will take a break,

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Speaker 1: We'll come back as we continue. Greg Jarrett number one

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Speaker 1: book in the country three weeks and running now the

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Speaker 1: Russian hoax, the illicit scheme to clear Hillary Clinton, frame

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Bruce marks u s attorney with twenty years

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Speaker 1: experience and by the way, as an office in Moscow,

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Speaker 1: has been the lead counsel and significant litigation against these

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Speaker 1: Russian oligarchs. I assume they're gonna probably want to talk

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Speaker 1: to you just because you went to Russia. Everyone's looking

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Speaker 1: for Russians all over the place. Um, but Greg, the

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Speaker 1: whole premise of your book, if we're gonna get down

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Speaker 1: to this, there are a whole lot of crimes that

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Speaker 1: we know we're committed, and that there was at the

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Speaker 1: top levels of the FBI, at the top levels of

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, and that an investigation was rigged

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Speaker 1: to help one presidential candidate stay in the race and

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Speaker 1: defeat the hated presidential candidate. And then we know there's

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Speaker 1: a Russia connection, bought and paid for Russian lies with

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Speaker 1: funneled money from a law firm to a not research group,

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Speaker 1: to a foreign national by the name of Christopher Steele,

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Speaker 1: and that such Russian lines not only were propagated to

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Speaker 1: the American people to influence their election decision, but also

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Speaker 1: then used as the basis for four specific FISA warrant applications,

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Speaker 1: yet never verified or corroborated, most of it debunked, and

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Speaker 1: nobody involved in any of these shenanigans has been indicted yet.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just look at the people who signed off

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Speaker 1: on the dossier. That's a fraud on the court. They

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Speaker 1: were using a phony document that they hadn't corroborated, the

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Speaker 1: law requires that they corroborate it. They may not use

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Speaker 1: an unverified document. So among the crimes that people like

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Speaker 1: Comy McCabe, Sally Yates, Rod Rosenstein may have committed, not

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Speaker 1: to mention Peter Struck, abusive power, perjury for signing a

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Speaker 1: false document, a fault and misleading statement, obstruction of justice,

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Speaker 1: major fraud against the US, and conspiracy to defraud the US.

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Speaker 1: Yet none of these people are the subject of a

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Speaker 1: grand jury investigation in which that kind of evidence is presented. Uh. Instead,

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Speaker 1: it appears that Robert Muller and his team of partisans

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Speaker 1: are going after Donald Trump for things that are non criminal.

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Speaker 1: I read one thing about your Bruce was your last

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Speaker 1: question here? You provided information of Bruce or the Bill

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Speaker 1: Browder was involved in vast international money laundering schemes and

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Speaker 1: it later became the subject of a federal RICO case.

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Speaker 1: But no what investigation. Absolutely, uh it was. And afterwards

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Speaker 1: I I Bruce and war was the head of the

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Speaker 1: you know, the RICO division of the Justice Department. And

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Speaker 1: this guy Bill brown Or who's made a vendetta against Russia. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, as part of his persona was involved in

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Speaker 1: a massive money laundering scheme. We ended up filing a

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Speaker 1: RICO suit in the in the United States, and they

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Speaker 1: the government did nothing, you know, unbelievable Russia. I sort

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Speaker 1: of believe in some of these theories. Well they did

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Speaker 1: nothing to Bruce or Yeah, and Lanny Davis involved, and

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Speaker 1: Lanny Davis is close to the Clintons as you can get.

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Speaker 1: We knew Robert Mueller was the FBI director when Putin's

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Speaker 1: thugs were in the United States involved because we had

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Speaker 1: a we we had a spy inside of the the

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Speaker 1: Putin led effort to get uranium out of America, which

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Speaker 1: he succeeded. But they were involved in bribery and kickbacks

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Speaker 1: and money laundering and other racketeering. And guess what, nobody

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Speaker 1: arrested them, and Putin ended up getting control of our

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Speaker 1: uranium and the Clinton's got a nice, big fat kick

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Speaker 1: back to their foundation with a lot of people involved

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Speaker 1: in that deal. All right, thank you, Bruce, We appreciated Greg.

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Speaker 1: Jared stays with us. When we come back. John Sale

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Speaker 1: will join us to discuss Maniford and Cone, having been

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Speaker 1: a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York,

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Speaker 1: and what he thinks of all of this eight hundred

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Speaker 1: nine for one, Shawn is a toll free telephone number. Also,

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan's gonna check in with us later in the

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Speaker 1: program today, and we're gonna follow the money, investigate the investigators.

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Speaker 1: All these FBI d O J guys. They get filthy

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Speaker 1: rich as soon as they leave and then come back

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Speaker 1: things that weren't disclosed. Straight ahead. Alright, twenty five now

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Speaker 1: ntil the top of the hour, eight nine one Shawn

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Speaker 1: toll free telephone number. If you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the program, we continue. Greg Jared still remains

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Speaker 1: with us, author of the number one book in the country,

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Speaker 1: The Russian Hoax, the Illicit Scheme to Claire, Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 1: Frame Donald Trump Boy. All of this is playing out

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Speaker 1: to be exactly as its title says. John Sale is

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Speaker 1: with us. He joins us to discuss he's a former

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Speaker 1: federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, former

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Speaker 1: Watergate assistant prosecutor. And uh, welcome John to the program.

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Speaker 1: And you know, thank you. A lot of good people,

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Speaker 1: I mean, some really great lawyers come out of the

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Speaker 1: Southern District of New York. I mean they've had some

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Speaker 1: of the biggest terrorism cases of course, and first World

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Speaker 1: Trade Center bombing, the Blind Shade case, and you know,

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Speaker 1: people like Andy McCarthy and even former New York City

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Speaker 1: Mayor Rudy Giuliani. And um, I don't think I speak

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Speaker 1: out of hand. I don't know all all the different

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Speaker 1: districts in the country. But it is renowned as as

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Speaker 1: probably the toughest and best in the country. Am I

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Speaker 1: right about that? It's the hottest place to get a job.

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Speaker 1: It is the most proud place, and it's wonderful, and

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Speaker 1: we have a fraternity forever of alumni, including of course

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Speaker 1: Mayor Giuliani. Yeah. UM, let's start with so I watched

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Speaker 1: very closely, and I know the media made a really

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Speaker 1: big deal over this, this Cone deal yesterday, more specifically

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Speaker 1: at the direction of of a candidate, and obviously that

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Speaker 1: was the President. Now, I know because you just read

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Speaker 1: the New York Times and interviews, and I'm told they

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Speaker 1: are even tapes specifically of Cone saying exactly the opposite.

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Speaker 1: But yet he said this in the plea deal. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm wrong here. My guess is that

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Speaker 1: as part of the negotiations, that wording was particularly important

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Speaker 1: to certain people. Um, and that if he wanted to

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Speaker 1: get a better deal that that wording had to be included.

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Speaker 1: You're part of these negotiations a lot more. I've never

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Speaker 1: been a part of him, but I'm assuming that that

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Speaker 1: was part of the negotiations, the wording of what is

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Speaker 1: actually said. And maybe instead of facing ten to twelve

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Speaker 1: he's facing three to five years in prison. Is that

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Speaker 1: a possibility or things like that negotiated. Things like that

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Speaker 1: are negotiated. But I think the prosecutors have to believe

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Speaker 1: that what he's being, what he's saying is true. But

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Speaker 1: what's important, John is excuse me, everybody the media is

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Speaker 1: reading this up like it's a fact that the President

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Speaker 1: knew about it, the President authorized it. All this is

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Speaker 1: his word, his accusation, and because he said it under oath,

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Speaker 1: I mean to me, an oath from Michael Cohen is

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Speaker 1: not worth uh the I'm not going to mention the

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Speaker 1: name of it the newspaper that's in front of me.

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Speaker 1: It's just him saying it. Well. I for example, in

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Speaker 1: did not know that Cohen had paid the hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars in the stormy Daniels case. A month earlier,

849
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Speaker 1: he had told The New York Times the same thing,

850
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: that he paid the money out of his own pocket

851
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: without President Trump's approval. Uh. And there are there are

852
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: at least a dozen that I can now sit in

853
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: front of me. So does it matter that he says

854
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: one under oath but said it a dozen times the

855
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: other way? Well, if there are a dozen times to

856
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 1: be said it the other way, then Michael Cone said

857
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: it thirteen times the other way. He has said it

858
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: more different times than you can imagine. And I think

859
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: his word. I heard find Lanny Daniels say something Lannie Davis. Yeah,

860
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, say pecause you Lan Davis. Lannie Davis say

861
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: something last night that he's changed to tell the truth

862
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: because he's concerned about his country. I mean, give me

863
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: a break. Uh, you know, he's looking to get the

864
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: best deal he can. But let me tell you something

865
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: that's story significant to at least somebody like me who's looked,

866
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: who's done this kind of work. And I've been now

867
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: I do white collar criminal work. It's done it for

868
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: twenty years in Miami. Um, he does not have a

869
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: cooperation deal. Well, it's it's a he's a non cooperated Uh,

870
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: this was a non cooperative deal, which means that they

871
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: don't have any intention to using him down the road

872
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: to testify on any of these issues that might cut

873
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: up come up. Well. To me, it means I don't

874
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: know if they'll use them or not, but it means

875
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: because they must have their own problems with his credibility.

876
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: Otherwise that have given him a traditional cooperation deal, which

877
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: is not Would that great shakes? Would that also be

878
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that Mueller farmed this out to

879
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: the Southern District. I don't. I don't know whether the

880
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: Special Council knew that in the beginning. But again, talking

881
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: about with all due respect to Lannie Davis, I don't

882
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: mean to be critical, but last night and this morning

883
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: on television, Lannie Davis is like peddling Michael Cohen's cooperation

884
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: and uh, I've never heard of Granted I don't I've

885
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: never represented the President of the United States, but I've

886
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: never heard of you trying to sell his cooperation by

887
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: titillating teasers. And he is what he can say. I'm

888
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: sure the Special Council will be interested. If the Special

889
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: Council were interested they've already been talking to him. Well,

890
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: Mark Levin was on last night, a brilliant constitutional attorney,

891
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: and he made a lot of I think, really good points.

892
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: First of all, I was a little shocked this morning

893
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: that Lannie Davis, if he's representing his client here, my

894
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: client will never accept a pardon. I don't know if

895
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: that's ever been discussed. Um, I would assume, but I'm thinking,

896
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: why wouldn't he if he ever got one? Would you

897
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: ever say that about that? That about your client? I'm like,

898
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: are you looking out for your political interests or your

899
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: client's interest here? Because I would think Michael Cohen, if

900
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: he got a pardon, would want it. Well. Anybody who

901
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: is facing five six seven years in prison who would

902
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: not accept a pardon, uh is from another planet. But

903
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: Michael Cohen has a very good lawyer and his name

904
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: is Guy patrol O, and he is not grandstanding Lannie Davis.

905
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: I think he's conducting a pr campaign and I don't

906
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: think that works with a special counsel or with the

907
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: Southern District. Let me ask about this the campaign expenditure

908
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: issue under federal campaign laws, which was a point Livin

909
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: made out. He said that Lannie actually you know, look,

910
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: and I understand, we got to back up and say

911
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: this is a plea deal. It's a bargain. It's sort

912
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: of like between a prosecutor and someone that's pleading guilty

913
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: to a crime that doesn't want to spend the rest

914
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: of his life in prison. Maybe it was facing you know,

915
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: sixty five years. That's a life sentence. It's over um.

916
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: That happens every single day. It applies only to specific cases. Um.

917
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: And Also, a campaign expenditure under federal campaign laws is

918
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: an expenditure only and solely for campaign activity. Candidate who

919
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 1: spends his own money or corporate money for an event

920
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: that occurred, not as a result of the campaign, it

921
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: is not a campaign expenditure. So I don't even see

922
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: the crime here. And I want to get Greg's take

923
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: on that too. Yeah, well, it gets into a gray

924
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: area if the money is intended to benefit a candidate,

925
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: but it becomes very murky. But more importantly is what

926
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: the president. I don't care what Mr Cohen did because

927
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: he probably did a thousand other things and he's pleading

928
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: to this one thing that's kind of sexy, But the

929
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: real issue is what what the liability if any of

930
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: the President has And in that regard, the big difference

931
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: between the President and Michael Cohen is Michael Cohen is

932
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: now conveniently saying the President knew about an advanced authorized

933
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: in advance, and I just saw the President on television

934
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: about an hour ago saying he didn't know about it

935
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: until afterwards. A lot of things, a lot of things

936
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: that need to be sorted out. But I don't think

937
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: that Michael Cohen's accusation, whether it's under oath or not

938
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: under oath, means a hell of beans. But I think

939
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: the President has been consistent on that point. Greig, campaign

940
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: a campaign finance cases only a crime if there's a

941
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: showing that a person is quote knowingly and willfully violated

942
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: the campaign laws. That's a direct quote out of the statute.

943
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: So there has to be sean specific intent and knowledge

944
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: that the law is being violated. You played a clip

945
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: of Ainsley's interview with the President. Uh, and he, you know,

946
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: is not a lawyer, didn't know campaign election laws, thought

947
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: that what he was doing was for his own purposes,

948
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: out of his own money. Uh. And it would be

949
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: very difficult, if not impossible, to show that he had

950
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 1: specific intent in knowledge that he was violating the law.

951
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: Plus he had a dual purpose. His other purpose would

952
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: have been to make payments in exchange for a nondisclosure

953
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 1: form for personal as well as commercial reasons. He had

954
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: done it in the past, before he was ever a candidate.

955
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: So all of that militates against a decent case that

956
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: prosecutors would ever have against Donald Trump. They just don't

957
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: have a case. It's a non crime as it applies

958
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: to him. John said, let me ask you with your

959
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: background and experience, and I think there's a good reason

960
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: that Greg's book has been number one on the New

961
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: York Times bestseller list for for three weeks and running. Now,

962
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: how did we go from a mandate supposedly to look

963
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: into Trump Russia collusion and we got Manafort, you know,

964
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: years before he ever knew Donald Trump, tax fraud charges

965
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: and bank loan application fraud. Uh, and he didn't register,

966
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: you know, a foreign bank account that he had, and

967
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 1: pretty much the same thing in the Michael Cohne case,

968
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: tax issues, tax returns, not reporting income and and lying

969
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: in an application for a loan. And then these minor

970
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: campaign violations that I would argue or not even a

971
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: violation of law. But how did none of this has

972
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: to do with Trump Russia collusion? Or does Michael Flynn

973
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: pleading guilty to line to the FBI even though the

974
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: agent that interviewed him and Comey Struck and Comey both

975
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: said they didn't think he lied, and and George George

976
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 1: Papadopolis lying to the FBI. How do we go from

977
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: all of that to this? Well, the Manifold case is

978
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: the best example because the Maniflort case has absolutely nothing

979
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: to do with so called Russian collusion or the Russians

980
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: meddling in our election. Yet Manifold is now facing possibly

981
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: up to ten years in prison under the sentence of guidelines,

982
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: and at sixty nine years old, that's a life sentence. Uh.

983
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: The answer to the questions obvious and Judge ellis who um.

984
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he presided over the trial in the

985
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: way most judges were, the way he gave the prosecutors

986
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: a hard time, but he had to nail on the head.

987
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: The purpose was to squeeze Manifold in order to testify

988
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: against the President, and the two problems with that. First

989
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: of all, he can't flip or cooperate unless he can

990
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: say truthful things that would really incriminate the president. That's

991
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: really I think the reason it's not. It hasn't even

992
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: been on the table. And furthermore, he obviously doesn't want

993
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: to do it. But more importantly, if you don't have

994
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: truthful information, you're not in a position to cooperate, no

995
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: matter how many years they threatened you work. All right,

996
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: we'll take a break, we'll come back more. Greg Jarrett

997
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: and John Sale one seawn, if you want to be

998
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: a part of the program. All right, as we continue,

999
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: John Sale is with us. He's an attorney, former prosecutor

1000
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: in the Southern District of New York. Greg Jarrett number

1001
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: one book in the country for three weeks and running

1002
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: on the New York Times bestseller list. The Russian hoax

1003
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: liicit scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and framed Donald Trump.

1004
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: Um the whole premise, Greg, and I'm asking John about

1005
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: these very specific things because we have tax fraud, bank

1006
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: fraud again and again, lying to the FBI. We have

1007
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: no Russia collusion, but we got the Espionage Act, we

1008
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: got Hillary Clinton's violation of a subpoena and and getting

1009
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: rid of evidence. I think that's an obstruction case. Lying

1010
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: to fis the court judges disseminating false information bought and

1011
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: paid for by one campaign to the American people, fraudulently

1012
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: using it before a court to obtain warrants. I just

1013
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't think if I hired every great attorney in

1014
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: the country, I would ever get off any of this

1015
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: or even think about it. Well. I agree with John

1016
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: is his assessment of James Cummy's a July sixteen news conference.

1017
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: She clearly violated different provisions of the Espionage Act. The

1018
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: sheer quantity d ten documents on our server was gross negligence,

1019
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: and in fact, Comy wrote it down on May second

1020
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: in a lengthy statement, not once but twice. But he

1021
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: wanted to clear her. That's what he told his staff,

1022
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: So they had to sanitize his findings of fact, and

1023
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: they did so on Peter Struck's computer, and then Comy

1024
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: stood there and and cleared Hillary Clinton. I'm with John.

1025
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: I have interviewed a lot of former federal prosecutors, top

1026
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: former FBI officials. All of them said that they were

1027
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: dumb struck when Comy usurped the power of the Attorney

1028
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: General and turned a legal somersault to clear Hillary Clinton,

1029
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: and frankly, that was the beginning of the Russia hoax

1030
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: to clear her. And on that same day, his FBI

1031
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: is meeting secretly in London with Christopher Steele, who composed

1032
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: the fabricated dossier. With that document, they were off to

1033
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: the races. You understand, John, That why I feel that

1034
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws, uh,

1035
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: is in jeopardy in this country based on the events

1036
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: that have been unfolding regarding all these issues. Well, that's

1037
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: a common frustration that a lot of people feel. Uh.

1038
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm in Miami and I looked at

1039
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: the Miami Herald this morning and the headline was one

1040
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: two punch for the president. Uh. The President has shown

1041
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: us that he as I put it, he's like Rocky

1042
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: Balbo Balboa. He's gonna come up from these punches meaning

1043
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: maniflo It and Collin and come after very, very strong,

1044
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: because we've got to deal with the facts, not I

1045
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: think that's only fair. And if we if we had

1046
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: equal justice under the law, if Sean Hannity deleted subpoena emails,

1047
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: had somebody acid wash the hard drives and bust up

1048
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: you know devices, You and I both know I'd be

1049
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: in deep deep you know what and the same if

1050
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: I lied to any judge. E R. Whoever lies to

1051
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: a judge, you gotta be an idiot to commit a

1052
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: fraud on a judge. Judges don't take well to that.

1053
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 1: I don't think. Well, there's no doubt. There's no doubt

1054
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: about that, assuming that happened, that the person who did

1055
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: it would be in trouble. Yeah, well it's not yet

1056
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: so far. Uh, John, thank you. We appreciate you joining us.

1057
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: Greg always, we appreciate you and what you've done. And uh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna continue our narrative tonight on Hannity nine Eastern.

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Speaker 1: Also an investigation following the money. What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Investigating the investigators? How does some of these key players

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Speaker 1: they want to talk about Manafort money and Cones money.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the money they make going in and

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Speaker 1: out of government. That's next. Stay right here for our

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Speaker 1: final news round up and information overload. A couple of

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Speaker 1: years back, he gave a speech saying, if we fall

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Speaker 1: in love with our own virtue, we can go sideways.

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Speaker 1: At any point over the last two years, did you

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Speaker 1: fall prey to that? Did you fall in love with

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Speaker 1: your own virtue? I don't think so, but I worried

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Speaker 1: about it constantly, and the guardrail for that, because that's

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Speaker 1: a big worry I have about myself, was to surround

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Speaker 1: myself with people who will hit that, hit at the certainty,

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Speaker 1: hit at the pride, to make sure I've thought about

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Speaker 1: things well. But at the end of the day, you

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Speaker 1: gotta look at yourself in the mirror and you've got

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Speaker 1: to make the decision, the right decision, but most of

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Speaker 1: all for the right reasons. Yeah, James, call me is

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Speaker 1: virtue and his superiority and his honor. Well is that

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Speaker 1: exactly right? Uh? Well, we have a new book out

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Speaker 1: and we've been telling you about investigating the investigators, follow

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Speaker 1: the money and something that you know. And then it's

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Speaker 1: interesting but considering that all the Trump Russia collusion as

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Speaker 1: it relates to Paul Manafort and his trial and all

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Speaker 1: of that that we have followed. This is the great

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Speaker 1: work of Robert Muller and his mery band of Democratic

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Speaker 1: downers and you know, real winners like Andrew Weissman and

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Speaker 1: Jeannie Ray, and it just is how did we get here?

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Speaker 1: How did we start Trump Russia collusion in the team

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Speaker 1: presidential race and end up with a tax case of

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Speaker 1: Paul mana for from years ago, that what had already

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Speaker 1: been dispensed of, that they dug out of mothballs for

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Speaker 1: the very purpose of putting the screws to him. So

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Speaker 1: he'll sing or compose in the hopes of getting the

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Speaker 1: president and Peach peached to prosecuted. Then we're gonna raid

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Speaker 1: the President's attorney's office. We'll do that. Now we got,

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Speaker 1: you know, a taxicab medallion issue. Oh okay, well, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna follow the money. This new book that we have

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Speaker 1: been telling you out is is pretty interesting. If you

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Speaker 1: remember our good friend Peter Schweitzer. He's the one that

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Speaker 1: told us about Clinton cash, and he wrote about secret empires,

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Speaker 1: how the American political class hides corruption and enriches their

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Speaker 1: family and their friends. He's the president of the Government

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Speaker 1: Accountability Institute and also with us as Shamus Brunner, and

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Speaker 1: he is the author of this brand new book that

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Speaker 1: is telling the story. It's called Compromised. How money and

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Speaker 1: politics drive FBI corruption every day. Welcome both of you

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Speaker 1: back to the program. Peter wrote the uh introduction of

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Speaker 1: this book. Uh, Shamus, listen, you work for a great guy.

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Speaker 1: He's very good on TV and radio. I hope we don't.

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Speaker 1: You don't mind him stepping on your book a little

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Speaker 1: bit here? No, happy, happy to have Peter with me. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But so with all this talk and again Trump Russia collusion,

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Speaker 1: election influence and all this, how did we spin off

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Speaker 1: into oh, Paul maniforts taxes and a tax broad case

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Speaker 1: and issues going back to two thousand and five? How

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Speaker 1: do we spin off into Michael Cohen's medallion's and then

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Speaker 1: we look into the investigators And this is what I

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Speaker 1: see in your book and and and tell me if

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Speaker 1: any of this is wrong. But you're reporting in the

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Speaker 1: book Compromised, how money and politics drive FBI corruption, which

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Speaker 1: is now out at James Comey's net worth went over

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Speaker 1: once skyrocketed over four thousand percent when he left the

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Speaker 1: d O J and O five and returned to the FBI.

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Speaker 1: In you point out James Comy made six point one

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Speaker 1: million dollars after Mueller's FBI granted his employer at the time.

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Speaker 1: I guess he had a consulting firm of some kind.

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Speaker 1: But James Comy made six point one million from Lockheed

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Speaker 1: Martin and one of the largest contracts and contractors in

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Speaker 1: American history. And what you describe as a billion dollar boondoggle,

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Speaker 1: and under Muller's direction he was the FBI director at

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Speaker 1: the time, the FBI granted multiple spy contracts to the

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Speaker 1: very firm that employed Comey or his team, uh, to

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Speaker 1: Lockheed Martin while Comy is advising them on the galery

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Speaker 1: of their operations. And that Comy received another six million

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Speaker 1: working for one of the world's largest hedge funds and

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Speaker 1: an additional five d grand for unused vacation time. Um.

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Speaker 1: Do I have any of this wrong, Shamus? Or is

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Speaker 1: that exactly corroborated? Right? Justin true? Because they're not getting

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Speaker 1: back to me. We've tried to confirm it with them.

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Speaker 1: Now you haven't exactly right, Sean. This is uh. This

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Speaker 1: is a familiar story, the revolving door turning public service

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Speaker 1: into self service. And I think the question you asked,

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Speaker 1: how did we get here? It's a very smart and

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01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: important question. So we, uh, we followed the money. We

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Speaker 1: followed it to the top, and we found that these

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Speaker 1: choir boys or boy scouts, as the media he likes

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Speaker 1: to depict them, James Comey, Robert Mueller, they're really no

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Speaker 1: better than anyone else in the swamp. They use their

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Speaker 1: public service, they use their contacts, and they cash in

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Speaker 1: through the revolving door. So we followed the money, did

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Speaker 1: a full cash analysis, and like you said, we found

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Speaker 1: James Comee's net worth was a modest two hundred and

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Speaker 1: six thousand dollars before he went to lockeed Martin. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, he wasn't just consulting Lockheed Martin. He

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Speaker 1: was their general counsel and a senior vice president at

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Speaker 1: the corporation, which kind of begs the question, why would

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Speaker 1: you choose a young James Comy. He's got no corporate

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Speaker 1: experience of that kind. So he was working directly for

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Speaker 1: Lockheed Martin and directly all right, and explain this six

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Speaker 1: point one million dollars that Lockheed Martin. Who how much

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Speaker 1: would they paying him a year? Do you know the

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Speaker 1: yearly salary? Right? So that's it's a good point. And

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Speaker 1: in fairness to James Comey, he could have been making

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Speaker 1: six point one million dollars before Lockheed Martin received a

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Speaker 1: billion dollar boondoggle from Robert Mueller's FBI. But this is

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Speaker 1: according to SEC documents, they only disclosed the full compensation

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Speaker 1: to James Comey in the year two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 1: So it's possible he yearned that much before then, we

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Speaker 1: just don't know. Well, well, you're saying the six point

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Speaker 1: one million was only made in one year, just the

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Speaker 1: year two thousand nine, a single year, six point one

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Speaker 1: million dollars. And how long did he work for Lockheed Martin?

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Speaker 1: He worked there from two thousand and five until two

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Speaker 1: thousand and ten, and then jumped over. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: he made six point one million in one year. I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming he made a lot. Why don't you know the

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Speaker 1: other years? Right? So it's it's the way financial disclosures work.

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Speaker 1: We we only have what they give us. Um, we'd

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Speaker 1: obviously like a lot more. So, well, let's say it

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Speaker 1: was making three million dollars a year for the other

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Speaker 1: how many years? Now it's five years total, So if

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Speaker 1: he was making three dollars, it could be eighteen million

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Speaker 1: dollars exactly, right. And what does somebody do for five

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Speaker 1: years to make you know, at least at one year

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Speaker 1: six point one million dollars? What did he do for

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Speaker 1: the six point one million? That seems like a lot

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Speaker 1: of money to me. Um, I think most Americans are

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Speaker 1: gonna open their eyes and say how much? Right? So

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Speaker 1: in in uh lockeed Martin's annual reports. James Comey has

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Speaker 1: power of attorney for all of the executives, so he

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Speaker 1: literally signs off on all of their operations, including some

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Speaker 1: of the invasive surveillance programs like this billion dollar boondoggle.

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Speaker 1: That's not my word, that's uh. It was reported in

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Speaker 1: Huffington's Post that it was called a boondoggle, and that's

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Speaker 1: because it was plagued by cost overruns and delays. But

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Speaker 1: this program, the billion dollar program to lockeed Martin, was

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Speaker 1: called Next Generation Identification, and it was a biometric facial

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Speaker 1: recognition program trying to capture all of the faces of

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Speaker 1: every man, woman and child in America and turn them

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Speaker 1: into a fingerprint essentially. So so that's the the that

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Speaker 1: came the year before. Can I interp Can I just

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Speaker 1: go back to he worked there from two thousand and

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Speaker 1: five to two and ten, correct, And you only could

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Speaker 1: get his pay for two thousand and nine, which was

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Speaker 1: six point one million dollars correct? Where are the other

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Speaker 1: four years? That's a great question. What about the years before?

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Speaker 1: If you can get all nine and I would have

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Speaker 1: think you can get oh eight oh seven, O six

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Speaker 1: and oh five, why wouldn't you get those years. I

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Speaker 1: would think they would be released first. Yeah, I trust me.

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Speaker 1: I went through every single year and looked for it.

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Speaker 1: They just don't nate UH total James Comby's compensation for

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Speaker 1: those years. But what we do know is in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and four, the previous general council made about six

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Speaker 1: point one million dollars. So we used very conservative estimates here.

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Speaker 1: We didn't want to go a bridge too far, so

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Speaker 1: he made six point one million. And is it possible

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Speaker 1: it could have been for the four years together? Not? Not?

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Speaker 1: Not possible, you know, I guess, I guess anything is possible.

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Speaker 1: But it specifically lays out the compensation for each executive

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Speaker 1: in the year two thousand and nine, and this is

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Speaker 1: a combination of cash and stock options, which interestingly, the

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Speaker 1: stock options UH were valid through so he could have

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Speaker 1: exercised them when he returned to the FBI. We just

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Speaker 1: don't know, all right. So if he has the power

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Speaker 1: of attorney of all the executives at lockeed Martin, doesn't

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Speaker 1: that mean that he signs off on this stuff? Correct?

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Speaker 1: He signs off on all of their operations. In the

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Speaker 1: annual reports from Lockheed Martin, they state that James Comey

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Speaker 1: helps successfully resolve certain litigation. They're often sued for various reasons.

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Speaker 1: So he's he's signing off on operations, he's advising on

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Speaker 1: the legality of them, which helps when you're getting surveillance

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Speaker 1: contracts that many civil rights organizations say are too invasive.

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Speaker 1: And uh, he and he and his buddy Robert Mueller.

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Speaker 1: It looks like worked like kind of like a picture

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Speaker 1: and a catcher. So in other words, so it would

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Speaker 1: have been on the Lockheed Martin side, you know, pushing

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Speaker 1: to get the government contract. That would be Comey's role,

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Speaker 1: and then on the other side, the person that signed

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Speaker 1: off on it was Robert Muller. Right, Well, Robert Mueller

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Speaker 1: know that he was getting six point one million dollars

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine. The annual report comes out

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year. So it's not I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's not clear, but he he obviously would have

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Speaker 1: known that James Comey was at Lockheed Martin, and he

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Speaker 1: obviously would have had to sign off on a billion

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Speaker 1: dollar program. So both but based on what you've perceived

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Speaker 1: in your research shows that the role that Comey had

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Speaker 1: at Lockheed Martin it was his job to sign off

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Speaker 1: on such such projects like this, this new generation of

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Speaker 1: I D and facial recognition and on the and would

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Speaker 1: this be something that Congress had to sign off on,

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Speaker 1: It would be something Mueller wanted needed to approve within

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Speaker 1: the FBI as the behind director. Right. Well, James Comey

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Speaker 1: and Robert Mueller have this long history together going back

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Speaker 1: to the nineties at the d o J, and they've

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Speaker 1: been very concerned with, you know, matters relating to surveillance,

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Speaker 1: especially SEISA and the Patriot Act. So we see repeatedly

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Speaker 1: throughout the early two thousands and all the way up

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Speaker 1: through today, Robert Mueller James Comey wanted to tear down

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Speaker 1: the wall, so to speak, between intelligence agencies and had

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Speaker 1: you know, issues with what they called the going dark

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Speaker 1: problem where they didn't have enough information. So they really

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Speaker 1: rapidly expanded and I call it the surveillance state um

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Speaker 1: which is now of course being used against journalists, citizens

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Speaker 1: and even now a presidential candidate. Gotta take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back board with Peter Schweitzer, Government Accountability Institute

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Speaker 1: President and UH also Shamus Brunner, author of the blockbuster

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Speaker 1: new book It's called Compromised, How Money and Politics Drive

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Speaker 1: FBI Corruption, which is now out in books to is today.

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Speaker 1: That is a continue Peter Sweitzer, and he is the

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Speaker 1: head and president of the Government Accountability Institute Shamus Brunners

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Speaker 1: with us. They have a brand new book it's called Compromised,

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Speaker 1: How Money and Politics Drive FBI Corruption, which is now

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Speaker 1: out today. I mean, it sounds like a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: But on the other hand, there is a certain expertise

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Speaker 1: that one would have, UH that I could see somebody

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Speaker 1: like Lockheed Martin wanting UH an FBI director and a

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Speaker 1: security clearance would be of great value to them, and

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Speaker 1: the contacts that they would be a great value to them,

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Speaker 1: And doesn't necessarily mean something the farious happened here. And

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Speaker 1: if you're looking at a company that is getting what

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Speaker 1: fifty billion dollars UH a year and and taxpayer funded

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Speaker 1: contracts six point one million is kind of small potatoes,

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Speaker 1: isn't it? Well, Sean, I think what with the highlights

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Speaker 1: is this problem? Um, it happens at health and human services,

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Speaker 1: at happens at d D where you have government officials

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Speaker 1: who basically while they're in government, create demand for their

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Speaker 1: own services when they leave, and so in the case

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Speaker 1: of you know, Jim Comey, he goes to Lockeed Martin

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Speaker 1: from the Department of Justice. At the Department of Justice,

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Speaker 1: he helped establish some of these very programs that Lockeed

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Speaker 1: Martin was getting contracts to implement and carry out. So

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Speaker 1: he sets up these programs. Who is Lockeed Martin going

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Speaker 1: to look for to give a paycheck to who understands

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Speaker 1: this program better than anybody else, the government official who

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Speaker 1: helped put it together. Um, And that is sort of

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Speaker 1: a tried and truth story in Washington, d C. And

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Speaker 1: the point is that, you know, you play that clip

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of Jim Comey talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: how sensitive he is to the appearances of of you know,

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Speaker 1: doing something wrong or wrong doing. And the fact of

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Speaker 1: the matter is this is a very familiar story, unfortunately

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Speaker 1: in the swamp and that I think is what's so

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Speaker 1: troubling about it. And what Sheamus shows is this pattern

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Speaker 1: where you know, when Mueller is in the private sector

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Speaker 1: and Komi is in government, there seemed to be contracts

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Speaker 1: and resources that flow in that direction as well. It's

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a tag team arrangement that these two have.

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Speaker 1: And so it speaks to the financial underbelly that exists

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Speaker 1: even at the Department of Justice, which is an agency

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Speaker 1: the FBI that we expect to be focused primarily on

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Speaker 1: enforcing the law. There are lots of ways in which

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Speaker 1: these officials self enriched themselves. Wow, this is a mind

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Speaker 1: blowing episode here. By the way, if you're just joining us,

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Speaker 1: the book is called Compromised, How Money and Politics Drive

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Speaker 1: FBI Corruption, now out in bookstores, Amazon dot com. It's

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Speaker 1: eye opening and I think a lot of questions need

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Speaker 1: to be asked by Congress of the people involved so

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Speaker 1: that we know nothing nefarious has happened. Anyway, I want

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Speaker 1: to thank you both, Peter Schweitzer and Shamus Bruner, Thank

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Speaker 1: you both eight hundred nine for one. Shauna is on

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Speaker 1: number all right when we come back. Jim Jordan, by

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Speaker 1: the way, he's running for speaker. We support him, would

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Speaker 1: love to see it. And don't think that if in

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Speaker 1: fact Republicans hold the House that he couldn't win. In

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Speaker 1: the age of Trump, anything can happen. Of course, that's

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Speaker 1: seventies six days away. And remember I also warned you

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Speaker 1: that this election is about what they want to impeach

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Speaker 1: the president. They want to keep Obama care. How's that

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Speaker 1: working out. Let's see fire, ice and open borders, and

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Speaker 1: they want their crumbs back and they want to stop

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Speaker 1: all the investigations into the deep state and their corruption.

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Speaker 1: So that's what that is all about. Any we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about the elections. We'll talk about Bruce Or and his

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Speaker 1: loving relationship with Christopher Steele. Considering they see text or email,

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Speaker 1: oh seventy plus times, how did that happen before and

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Speaker 1: after the election. Also, don't forget Hannity Tonight nine Eastern

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Speaker 1: on the Fox News Channel, Sarah Gregg, new Ingrich Sell, Alcolm,

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Speaker 1: Pam Bondi, and Ainsle the Airheart with her exclusive interview

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Speaker 1: with President Trump from earlier today. That's all coming up

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Speaker 1: at nine on Fox. We'll continue. You know one thing

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Speaker 1: that we haven't got to, and that's Bruce Or Christopher Steele.

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Speaker 1: Seventy plus interactions, meetings, emails, text messages, we have them

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Speaker 1: all hoping the firewalls hold and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: get exposed. And yeah, okay, well now we know none

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Speaker 1: of this is going to impact Donald Trump has relates

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Speaker 1: to either Man of Ford or Cones. And now we

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Speaker 1: can actually get back to the real crimes that were

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Speaker 1: committed that everybody wants to avoid in the media. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's just go over some of the history of all

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Speaker 1: of this, Trey Goudy and and some other people and

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Speaker 1: remind you about these interactions. So what are we investigating here?

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Speaker 1: The number four personage Department of Justice. Bruce Or's wife

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Speaker 1: work for Fusion GPS. He had dozens of contexts with

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Speaker 1: Mr Steele, the informant the FBI was using on the

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Speaker 1: payroll of the Democratic Party. There's no way in the

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Speaker 1: world he should have interactive with Mr Steele because his

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Speaker 1: wife work for the same organization. So somebody other than

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Speaker 1: the people in charge today needs to look at what

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Speaker 1: they did yesterday. Senator Grassley secondly asked for the Bruce

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Speaker 1: for three O two. Is Bruce Or it is going

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Speaker 1: to become more and more important in this investigation, and

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Speaker 1: explain to three O two, which is an official report.

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Speaker 1: So the FBI interviewed Bruce Or at least a dozen

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Speaker 1: times and put together reports. So once they fired Steele,

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Speaker 1: which at that point they should have not been meeting

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Speaker 1: with him anymore. But what they had is they had

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Speaker 1: Bruce Or, whose wife, Nellie Or, was working for Fusion

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Speaker 1: GPS was going to meet uh and still get the

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Speaker 1: information for Christopher Steele as they were trying to verify

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Speaker 1: this unverified dossier or the Clinton dirt that was used

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Speaker 1: to get the FISA. I want to make a point

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Speaker 1: about what what what Greg just said. Rod Rosenstein won't

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Speaker 1: tell us when he first learned that Nellie Or was

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Speaker 1: working for Fusion GPS. So I want to know from

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Speaker 1: Bruce Or when did he tell his colleagues at the

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice that, in violation of the law that

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Speaker 1: required him to disclose his wife's occupation and her sources

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Speaker 1: of income, he did not do that. And so when

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Speaker 1: did all the other people at the Department of Justice

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Speaker 1: find this out? Because Rod Rosenstein, I've asked him twice

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Speaker 1: in open hearing and he will not give an answer.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a real smoking gun there. You said

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Speaker 1: earlier Bruce Or was not working on the Russia investigation.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you HER's the knowledge? To your knowledge?

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Speaker 1: Did you not know that Bruce Or was meeting with

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Speaker 1: Christopher Steele, getting the information about the dossier and supplying

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Speaker 1: that information to the FBI at the same time his wife,

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Speaker 1: Nellie was working for a few jan GPS that was

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Speaker 1: helping Helick Clinton. Did you not know he was doing

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Speaker 1: that for the FBI? Correct. We're gonna be back and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna interview Bruce Or not in a public circus setting,

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Speaker 1: but any deposition with no time limits, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of what he did, why

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Speaker 1: he did it, who he did in concert with, whether

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Speaker 1: he had the permission of the supervisors at the Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice. It is I used to work doing what

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Speaker 1: Bruce Or does now. It is unbelievable that a prosecutor

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Speaker 1: would insert himself into an ongoing investigation from which he

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Speaker 1: had nothing to do. All Right, he wants to be

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Speaker 1: the next Speaker of the House. He's an Ohio congressman,

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Speaker 1: one of the most popular in Congress. Uh, he is

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Speaker 1: the Well, you're the former chairman of the Freedom Caucus,

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Speaker 1: aren't you? And uh Mark Meadows beat you out for

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Speaker 1: the second run. Right, it wasn't a wasn't a race.

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Speaker 1: But Mark's doing a great job and leading our group.

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Speaker 1: That's turn. Well. One thing that I would to highlight,

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Speaker 1: if you don't mind me getting into it, there are

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Speaker 1: a bunch of allegations made against you by individuals uh

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Speaker 1: that in fact that you knew about as an assistant coach,

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Speaker 1: and when I guess you were in your early twenties, uh,

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Speaker 1: that you were adamant and passionate about that you knew

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Speaker 1: nothing of. And I saw that you were getting trashed

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Speaker 1: and there was a rush to judgment, as there usually is.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm seeing a number of these people, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how many exactly, uh now rescinded what they

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Speaker 1: said about you. Yeah, because it wasn't true. Every single

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Speaker 1: coach is said the same thing. I have all kinds

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Speaker 1: of resturant that said the same thing. I have everything

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Speaker 1: they said, all that John said. It's the truth. I mean,

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Speaker 1: think about this like that. So I'm the guy who

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Speaker 1: stood up to it. By the way, I I got

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Speaker 1: in trouble for saying on TV because I've known you

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Speaker 1: all these years and I know the person you are.

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Speaker 1: I know I knew it was a fabrication, absolutely knew it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I live in this world where I

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Speaker 1: get smeared and slandered all the time, and I recognize

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Speaker 1: it when I see it. Next to the President. You've

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Speaker 1: probably tell with this more than anyone else on so

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01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 1: you know how ridiculous it is, and you know how

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Speaker 1: how tough it is too when when people are just

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Speaker 1: saying things that are not true, that are just wies.

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Speaker 1: But look, I stood up to the Speaker of the

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Speaker 1: House from our own state. I stood up to the

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Speaker 1: I R S. We're standing up to the FBI and

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Speaker 1: the crazy things they tried to do to the President

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Speaker 1: Trump and his campaign. To think I wouldn't stand up

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Speaker 1: for our athletes if I thought something wrong was happening.

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Speaker 1: Of course I would. This is so ridiculous. But the

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Speaker 1: good news is everybody sees through it, and we're focused

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Speaker 1: on doing what we told the people were gonna do

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Speaker 1: and help him President Trump get things done well. And

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Speaker 1: the good news is is that you know what. It

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Speaker 1: took a while, and I'm sure it was painful to

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Speaker 1: you and your family. And to be honest, I've I've

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Speaker 1: I've built up so many immunities I barely even noticed

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Speaker 1: the attacks anymore. I just expect them and uh, but

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Speaker 1: it is what it is. Um. Yeah, if I tell

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Speaker 1: our colleagues on all the time, if if the if

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Speaker 1: the mainstream media isn't saying something bad about you're probably

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01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: not doing anything any good. How this works. You know

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01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: how this works? That you just gotta keep us on

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Speaker 1: the on the job and also learn who your friends

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Speaker 1: are in these moments to UM, I appreciate what you said,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate what the President said. You were you two

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01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 1: were the first two to to to come out and

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Speaker 1: say this is ridiculous and I and I still appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I've known, I know you, I know who you are.

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Speaker 1: I knew this wasn't true. UM, I'm glad it worked out.

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Speaker 1: Now let me go to this UM. All right, So

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Speaker 1: now that we got the lion, now that the Russian

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Speaker 1: investigation has gotten certain things out of the way. Lying

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Speaker 1: to the FBI even though the agents that interviewed General

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Speaker 1: Flint didn't think he was lying, order to come me

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Speaker 1: think he was lying. And Papadopoulos, you know, I bet

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Speaker 1: he regrets being a campaign volunteer. Uh, all right, So

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Speaker 1: the lying part of the FBI is out of the

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Speaker 1: way now the okay, those that committed tax fraud from

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Speaker 1: years before that had nothing to do with the Trump

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Speaker 1: campaign and and made false statements on a loan application.

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Speaker 1: Now that all that's out of the way, and the

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Speaker 1: two campaign finance issues are out of the way completely.

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Speaker 1: As it relates to Donald Trump, they're dead issues. Um,

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Speaker 1: every lawyer that has any brains knows it, and we

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Speaker 1: gotta finally, now close to five hundred days in, are

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Speaker 1: we ever gonna get to the collusion part, the Russian

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01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: interference part, the Russian dossier that was propagated, the lies

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Speaker 1: to the American people, and the fraud committed four times

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Speaker 1: on faisal court judges with bought and paid for Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton Russian lines. Are we gonna announce to get to

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Speaker 1: that part? I think we're gonna get some answers next

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Speaker 1: Tuesday when we have Bruce Or in a deposition. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to asking him a number of questions. Never

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Speaker 1: forget the basics, or Sean, and you've been great about this,

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Speaker 1: highlighting this for the American people. Bruce Or, top Justice

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Speaker 1: Department of official. His wife worked for the firm hired

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Speaker 1: by the Clinton to put together the dossier four weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: and hearing Peter Struck told me third round of question

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Speaker 1: took me want to get this the third round of question,

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Speaker 1: Peter Struck told me yes, In fact, the FBI was

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Speaker 1: getting parts of the dassier from none other than Bruce Or.

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Speaker 1: You cannot do that in this country, but they did

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Speaker 1: it Bruce Or's wife, working for the firm hired by

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Speaker 1: the Clintons, was handing the dossier, the work product from

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01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: that firm handing the dossiers the FBI, and they would

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01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: then used it to go to the Secret Court to

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01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 1: get the warrant to spy on President Trump's campaign. That

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Speaker 1: actually happened. We know that for a fact. What we

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Speaker 1: need to know from Bruce Orris who did you talk

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01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: to that Saliates know about it? Did Rod Rosenstein know

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01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: about it? And maybe more importantly, who did you hand

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01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: those dossiers too? Who at the FBI actually took receipt

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01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: of those when you gave him to him? As Peter

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01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: struct said under oath, so lots of important questions we

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01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: hope to get the answers to next week. So and

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01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: it does have to do with Russian lives bought and

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01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: paid for, correct, And that we're used to misinform the

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01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 1: American people to help Hillary Clinton win. That's all true, right, Well,

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01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: never right. We always highlight the basics here. The Clinton

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Speaker 1: campaign paid Perkins Coolly, the law firms who paid Husian GPS,

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01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 1: who paid a foreigner Christopher Steele to do what go

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01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 1: talk to Russians have put together a garbage document called

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Speaker 1: the dossier that they took to the court, and they

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01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: didn't tell the court who paid for it, but they

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01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: use it to get a warrant to spy on President

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Speaker 1: Trump's campaign. Those are the facts, So there's the collusion.

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01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 1: But no, no, we've spent eighteen night whatever how many

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01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 1: months it is now fifteen sixteen months trying to figure

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01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: out what we're coming up on. Five hundred days of

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01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: this crap days. It's ridiculous and not one thing of

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01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: evdence to show any type of collusion between the Trump

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01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: campaign and Russia to impact the election. You know, as

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01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 1: you watched all the events unfolding Esterdam and I'm like, well,

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01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: there are lessons to be learned. I mean, uh, number one,

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01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: you can't lie to the FBI. I think everybody knows

1527
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: that you're not allowed to cheat on your taxes. They're

1528
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: gonna get you pay your money, pay what they pay

1529
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: what you Oh, and if you don't like that, they're

1530
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: high worked to change the laws. But don't decide on

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01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: your own you're not gonna pay. I know people that

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01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 1: did this, it never works out well for them. It's

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01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 1: really dumb um and the third thing is don't lie

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01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: in loan applications to banks. I think that's a bad

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01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: idea too. Now with that said, I would also say

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01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: it's a bad idea that if if Congress opena is

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01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: my emails, that I shouldn't delete them or acid wash

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01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: my hard driver beef bit and and I don't think

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01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 1: it would be a good idea to have someone bust

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01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 1: up my devices with hammers and pull out sim cards.

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01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: Uh to me, why haven't Why haven't people have been

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01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: held accountable there? Yeah? Because unfortunately today and this is

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01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: this is something that you've talked on and are constituent

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01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,919
Speaker 1: to folks around the country. Now, we now have two standards,

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01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 1: a just one for US regular people, but a different

1546
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: set if your name is Clinton, call me Lynch Learner,

1547
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,839
Speaker 1: McCabe struck a different set of rules for those guys

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01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: compared to what we regular Americans and the folks I

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01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: get the privilege of representing in the folks you get

1550
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: to talk to you every day on your show what

1551
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: they have to live under and it is never supposed

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01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 1: to work. How about this specn Why is it that

1553
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 1: only Republicans get if there's a campaign finance violation why

1554
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: is the only Republicans Vanista SUSA went to jail. But

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01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 1: but the Obama campaign, the John's and Edwards campaign, they

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01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 1: have campaign finance violations. No one ever goes to jails then,

1557
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 1: but old Zannis has to do it for some some

1558
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: something that he this is the other's double standard. Only

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01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,799
Speaker 1: Republican can get hit with campaign finance violence the Democrat.

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01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: That's such a good point. And you know, we actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm very old fashioned, but you know,

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01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: when I go before judge, you know, I've really only

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01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 1: had to go for a parking tickets. So we're gonna

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01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: be blunt here, but I say, uh, yes sir, no, sir, yes,

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Speaker 1: ma'am no, ma'am, your honor, yes, your honor, no, your honor.

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Speaker 1: And I'm very respectful. And the idea that I would

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Speaker 1: take information that I haven't verified a corroborated uh, even

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01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: though the law requires that you can't present it if

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01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: you don't know it to be true. Um, we know

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01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: that happened with the FISA applications and the Steele dossier

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01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 1: that Christopher Steel himself doesn't stand by because it's in

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01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 1: an interrogatory in Great Brittany said that I don't know

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01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 1: if it's true. It's raw intelligence fifty fifty. I think

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01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: I'd probably be in deep trouble if I committed a

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01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 1: fraud on the court, don't you think? Of course you would.

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01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 1: When you go to court, when I go to court,

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01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 1: when you're listeners, your viewers, my constituents, go to court,

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01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: they have to tell the truth, the whole truth, and

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01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 1: nothing but the truth. When the FBI took the fives

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01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: application to the court, they didn't tell him who paid

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01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 1: for it. And more importantly, or as importantly, they didn't

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01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: tell him the guy who wrote the darnthin and Christopher

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01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: Steele had been fired by the FBI because he's out

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01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 1: leaking information. So that is a big problem. And they

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01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 1: use that document again, it all comes back to the dassier.

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01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: They use that document to secure the ability to spy

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01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 1: on the Trunk campaign. And that is what is so

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01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: wrong about this whole sort of deal. You know, it

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01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,919
Speaker 1: is sad that we're at this point. Are you confident

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01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,440
Speaker 1: for those people that that look at where the smaller

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01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 1: investigation has taken us nothing to do with Russia on

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01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 1: any of these issues that he that have been made.

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01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 1: You know, all the big deal that they have spent

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01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 1: on all of this, and they see these crimes that

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01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 1: have been committed, and we see that there are people

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01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 1: within government with the most power that abused their power

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01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 1: and that none of them are being held accountable. And

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01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 1: you talk about a two tier justice system. You know,

1599
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: we're supposed to have having our constitutional republic, equal justice

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01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: and application of our laws. If we don't have that,

1601
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 1: what does that mean for the country. It's is not

1602
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: healthy that what they did is never supposed to happen

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01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: in this great nation, the greatest country ever, where we

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01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 1: have the constitution to fill right, it is never supposed

1605
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 1: to work the way it did. And that is what

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01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 1: bothers me so much is what fathers our constituents just

1607
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: yesterdays and uh constituent comes out. It happens all the time.

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01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 1: When is someone going to be held accountable? And I said,

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01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 1: you know what, we can't prosecute anyone. All we can

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01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 1: do is bring out the facts and the truth is

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01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: that the American people can see what took place. But

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01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 1: I hope people who actually did this wrong are held

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01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: to account. Right now, there is a criminal referral for

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01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: Andy McCabe. Maybe someone's gonna be held accountable. But our job, son,

1615
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 1: and your job is to continue to bring the truth

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01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 1: out so the American people can see it. And I

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01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,679
Speaker 1: am not going to stop until I've got every single

1618
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: answer that I said. You know what everybody says to me,

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01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 1: keep going, Hannity, By the way, what are they gonna

1620
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 1: pound out? What this is? What people are afraid of?

1621
01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 1: What are they going to knock down your door and

1622
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 1: rereg Jarrett's store and Sarah Carter's door and uh sorry

1623
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 1: you and Jim Jordan's door because you guys are exposing

1624
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: this corruption and abusive power. And I said, oh, I

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01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 1: guess that's the day the music dies, that the United

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01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:16,680
Speaker 1: States doesn't exist anymore. Yes, Sean, how is it that

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01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: that that Twitter can shadow band four people, Mark Meadows,

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01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: Devin Nun his macates and Jim Jordan's And then Twitter says,

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01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 1: oh no, no, it was it Glitzen our algorithm. And

1630
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, what what you put in your algorithm? The

1631
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 1: names Meadows kidding me like this is this what we're

1632
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,639
Speaker 1: now seeing in the greatest country ever? And it's all

1633
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: because of this crazy stuff that went on to the

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01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 1: top levels of the FBI. So we have got to

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01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 1: continue to do this because, as you point out, where

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01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: does it in, where does it in? Good point? All right,

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01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, Ohio congressman running for speaker. We'll have more

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01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: on that, uh in the weeks of months ahead. We're

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01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 1: now seventies six days away from the most important mid

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01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 1: term in our lifetime. That's gonna wrap things up with

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Speaker 1: today Hannity Tonight, nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel. Right,

1642
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: we are loaded up. We have Greg, we have Sarah

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01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 1: new king Ridge, Michelle Malkin, Pam Bondi is with us

1644
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 1: oh and Ainsley Earhart with her exclusive interview with the

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01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 1: President of the United States of America. It's all coming

1646
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: up tonight at nine. Tune in Hannity, Fox News. We'll

1647
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: see you tonight, and we'll see you back here tomorrow