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Speaker 1: Well, well, well, as is the catchphrase that starts this podcast,

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Speaker 1: It's playoff time, baby. We're taking a look at each

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Speaker 1: series discussing the two one one theory with the incredibly

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Speaker 1: talented and escape writer Around the Horn panelist author Justin Tinsley.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, this is the most excited I've been

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Speaker 1: about the NBA since we've been doing this podcast. It's

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Speaker 1: money to pumped.

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Speaker 2: Let's get it.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jack O'Brien and I'm Jabari Davis in for Miles

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Speaker 1: and this is Miles and for Jack and or Jabari

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Speaker 1: Jabari and Jack got mad Boosti's that has a nice

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Speaker 1: ringing to it. Jabari and Jack got met Raelpha Boosti's

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Speaker 1: JJA GMB Once Davis Lebron.

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Speaker 3: JMB driving Spinny Curry a three punter stop Curry from

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Speaker 1: Game, Honi, justin. Wonderful to have you, Justin Tinsley, thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us. How goes it?

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Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to be back here. Man, I always

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Speaker 2: coming on this show.

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Speaker 1: This is uh Is it just me? Or is everybody

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Speaker 1: as in love with the NBA right now as they?

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited, Like I'm just getting through the work

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Speaker 1: day looking forward to all right, what's the first game?

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Speaker 1: Where are we in this series? Which is what we're

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Speaker 1: about to talk about. We're a couple of days behind you, guys,

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Speaker 1: so if we say something very stupid, we apologize. We're

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Speaker 1: actually going to start doing a accelerated playoff schedule starting

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Speaker 1: next week where we record and release in less time.

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Speaker 1: We'll still be behind you, guys, but this week we're

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Speaker 1: in the distant past. It's Tuesday afternoon before the Tuesday

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Speaker 1: night games. So Nick Cavaliers is one I know, same

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Speaker 1: with Clippers Sons. You know, we don't know quite a

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Speaker 1: bit about where these series are headed, but there's so

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Speaker 1: much to talk about this Ah, these matchups, the matchups

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Speaker 1: out West are so incredible, Like three of the four

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Speaker 4: To that point, Jack, I think you mentioned this yesterday

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Speaker 4: in the planning meeting. Justin, is this the most exciting

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Speaker 4: at least first round matchup wise that we you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have to go back and look, but

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Speaker 2: there is like this fervent excitement about this playoffs because

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Speaker 2: it's not wide open, but it feels wider open than

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Speaker 2: like barring key injury unfortunately. Like to players like John Morant,

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Speaker 2: you kind of feel like there's like four or five teams.

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Speaker 2: If they get hot, they can make a run to

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Speaker 2: the finals. And when it's four or five teams and

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Speaker 2: there's only eighteen in the playoffs per conference, like that's

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Speaker 2: pretty wide open, man. So yeah, there is a different

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Speaker 2: type of excitement around the twenty twenty three playoffs that

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Speaker 1: So the only series that we have two games in

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Speaker 1: the books on as of this recording Sixers Nets and

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Speaker 1: Golden State Sacramento Sixers Nets has not been I've been

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Speaker 1: enjoying watching Philadelphia win because I am a Philadelphia seventy

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Speaker 1: they game plan, they have some different looks they're thrown

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Speaker 1: least a while, But then you know, there's just too

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for the Mad Bootsies universe out there,

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Speaker 2: That is a theory that myself and one of my

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Speaker 2: Of those four wins, two come from your best player,

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Speaker 2: But when you look at the series thinking of this

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Speaker 2: You know, I made the joke that it's like the

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Speaker 2: It works every time the time it works. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: a good team, man. I nobody predicts them to win

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Speaker 2: And so for game one with this series, I just

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Speaker 2: it like lightheartedly, like, Okay, well, I believe Embiid had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and people were saying it was like a perfect game,

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Speaker 2: You give it to him. Game two comes around, you know,

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Speaker 2: apply the theory to most NBA series and you'll see, like,

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Speaker 1: And also Game two didn't feel like a dominant Embiid

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Speaker 2: You know, this thing about this is too like people

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Speaker 2: like at me on Twitter about it, like, oh, that

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Speaker 2: wasn't the Maxi game, that was the mb game. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: it was the Maxi game. I'm like, at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, it's all subjective. It's who you want

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Speaker 1: Is all like I guess we got to give it

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Speaker 1: Rivers is getting a raw deal. On Twitter, people are like, so,

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Speaker 1: here's what happened. There's a ESPN story that's like docs talk.

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Speaker 1: Doc say something? And so if Doc was wired as

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Speaker 1: the coaches usually are, and the people looked at the

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Speaker 1: his job is to do that. When they're playing as

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Speaker 2: You know, that's a fair that's a fair critique, for sure,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but also you know what it is, Jack, this

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Speaker 4: Folks out there that are like, Doc doesn't make adjustments,

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Speaker 4: he's this, he's dead, you know, you know, he blows it.

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Speaker 4: If that that's what he's saying, then that's why they've

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Speaker 4: had failures in the past. But the reality is it's

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Speaker 4: probably aligned with what you're saying, like they couldn't play

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Speaker 4: everything specifically because you know they shouldn't play everything in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not here to say Doc makes great adjustments

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Speaker 1: looks like have you ever seen blue chips?

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Speaker 2: When?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when Nick Nolty's like coaching and his version of

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Speaker 2: Like that?

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Speaker 1: That's what it felt like the parts that they were

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Speaker 1: allowed to show of DOC. But that's not that's not

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Speaker 1: an accurate synopsis of what actually happened.

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Speaker 2: You're always a victim to editing.

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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, editor has the power that other series. You know,

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Speaker 1: Nicks Cavs is going to have a game by the

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Speaker 1: You're still one. So I would be I would be

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Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say. Let's say Philly and Boston going

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Speaker 2: It would be game seven in.

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Speaker 1: Him seven, Oh, in Boston game seven. We're giving him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. He was like, it would go seven.

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Speaker 1: Man or cautiously Yeah? Yeah, I just don't. I feel

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Speaker 1: That's how much I am. I'm not It's not like

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Speaker 1: I think it's like fifty five to forty five between

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Speaker 2: But what we shall see one of my favorite movies

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Western Conference, and we're back, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like we could do the whole rest of

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Speaker 1: The Western Conference playoffs is just bonkers and super exciting. Again,

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Speaker 2: Move on.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, I mean Game one was one of

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Speaker 1: two in a thirty eight points. Game two had some

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Speaker 2: Mad don't made me stomp out of here? Man, Come on, now,

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Speaker 1: This is this is one where I'm taking the anti

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Speaker 2: You know, here's what I hear. Look. I remember watching

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Speaker 2: We already saw what happened with Draymond when he got

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Speaker 2: I think the punishment was already doled out in you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Draymond wanted to stomp on him, But

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Speaker 2: like you just said, I gotta let people know that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, gentlemen, that man a town stomped, Kurk Franklin stomped,

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Speaker 2: That man absolutely tries to stop.

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Speaker 4: Drew Hill stomped the full jumping everything, all four of them,

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Speaker 4: all three of y'all. No, he absolutely did that on purpose.

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00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 4: But here's the reason. Here's the deal. Like, you don't

433
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 4: suspend him for the postseason, you kicked him out of

434
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 4: the game. That's punishment enough that that right there is

435
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 4: punishment in itself. And let's be honest, they'll be watching him.

436
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 4: So if he does anything wild, you know, moving forward,

437
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 4: that'll take care of itself moving forward. But I gotta

438
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 4: be honest with you, while you know, I completely understand

439
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 4: and you'll understand where you're coming from Jack and giving

440
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 4: him the benefit of the doubt kind of like the

441
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 4: comment that I made earlier about you know, folks not

442
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 4: giving doctor benefit of a doubt because of confirmation bias. Look, man,

443
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 4: I've heard your records before, Draymond. I heard how you sing,

444
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 4: I know your voice, you did it, and that's cool.

445
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 4: But I'll also just compare it to this. It's kind

446
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 4: of like remember the vaunted play where Shack Drop steps

447
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 4: on Chris Dudley and then he winds up pushing him down.

448
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 4: If you look at that play, Chris Dudley went in shocked,

449
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 4: you know, dunks and raises his legs. He grabs him

450
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 4: and pulls him, you know, pulls his body into him

451
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 4: a little bit kind of put and then Shack decides, well, no, now,

452
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna have to ragdall you and decides to

453
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 4: push him. Yeah, he got we he deserved because he

454
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 4: was playing a dangerous game. That's kind of what happened,

455
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 4: you know, in that situation and just and the only

456
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 4: reason why it matters more now is because it's a

457
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 4: postseason is because of Draymond.

458
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

459
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: No, for sure, I've always thought that the shack dunk

460
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: on Chris Dudley was purely accidental. You didn't see him.

461
00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: There's one of the funniest moments in NBA his truly.

462
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: I remember that Sunday. Here's Shaq.

463
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: Against Gudley.

464
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 2: Tequil O'Neil was so powerful on that move.

465
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: That Dudley Dudley because not even famine. He just got

466
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: overpowered by Shaquille O'Neill.

467
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: But Dudley without jowing with Shaq and threw the ball

468
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: in his direction.

469
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Speaker 4: Man, if you want to pick somebody to go with,

470
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 4: you go right to the head.

471
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 3: Of the class when you go after Shaq.

472
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Speaker 1: So, Warriors, Kings, the King's up too.

473
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Speaker 2: Oh.

474
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people when we recorded last week,

475
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: we were heading into the playoffs, and a lot of

476
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: people were picking suddenly picking the Warriors to come out

477
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: of the West, which I was a little bit confused.

478
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: By because they hadn't been able to win much on

479
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: the road this Watching the first couple of games, the

480
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 1: thing that keeps jumping out to me is that we're

481
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: a King's team that is great offensively, struggles to say

482
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: the least defensively, but have done a good job so

483
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: far in the playoffs. This is actually not a bad

484
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 1: draw because you've got a team that relies on shooting threes,

485
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: and shooting threes is like such a streaky thing that

486
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: can just change. And like, after Game one of that series,

487
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, Like that was awesome to see

488
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: the Kings win that one, But I feel like the

489
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: Warriors are going to come back because they just missed

490
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: a lot of open threes in that first game, and

491
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: they won't miss them any open threes in game two.

492
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: But that's the thing about being a three point shooting

493
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: reliant team, and like, so that's why it might be

494
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: a pretty good draw for them, even though everybody was

495
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: kind of saying that it was the worst possible draw.

496
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: Also too, you know what I've noticed through two games

497
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: of this series, Man Mike Brown is coaching circles around

498
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: Steve Kerr right now. It is It's ugly yeah, he's

499
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: he's obviously, you know, he coached Cleveland back in the day,

500
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: during the early Lebron days, and you know, he's always

501
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: been a defensive minded coach. So when you have a

502
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: defensive minded coach with such a great offensive team that

503
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 2: they really compliment each other because you know, you don't

504
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: really have to do too much work on the offensive end,

505
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: is sure up things on the defensive end. And we

506
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: see that, like I see Sacramento making more defensive adjustments

507
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: than I do Golden State at this you know, at

508
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 2: this very moment. Of course, you know, the things can

509
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: change on a diamond. Who knows how this series may

510
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: actually end. But in Game two, I expected Sacramento to

511
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: come out with the urgency as if they were the

512
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: ones down oh one, because they understand and they know

513
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: if we go up too oh, which you know, of

514
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 2: course they eventually did, if we go up too oh,

515
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: that means Golden State has to win four out of

516
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: the next five, and that is that's a hard ask

517
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 2: for anybody. I don't care if you're the defending champion

518
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: or not. And I read a stat earlier today where

519
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 2: it was like Golden State is the fifth defending champion

520
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: in history to go down two to ohero in the

521
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: next postseason, in the first round, in the first I

522
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: think in the first maybe in the first round, I think,

523
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: I guess in the first round. Yeah, all four of

524
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: the previous team's lost, Three of the four got swept.

525
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: So game three, yeah, And I was about to say

526
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: in the Oracle, but you know what I mean, Game

527
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: three in San Francisco and Chase, it's not a perfectly

528
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: to say that, like it's one of the most important

529
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: games in this current iteration of the Golden State Warriors

530
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: as we know them, because if you go down O three,

531
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: I mean, even with Steph, even with Clay, even with

532
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: Jordan Poole, that's it. I mean, you're not beating that

533
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 2: Sacramento team four straight times. So Game three, it would expect,

534
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: I expected to be one of the most intense. I

535
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: expected to be one of the most passionate, and I

536
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: expect to see a level of desperation in Golden State

537
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: that they were not expecting to tap into in the

538
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: first round. Maybe in the second round, definitely in the

539
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: Western Conference finals or the finals if they were to

540
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: make it there. But they out I think Sacramento, they

541
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: smell blood in the water. They know how important this

542
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: Game three is, so it's going to be very very interesting. Again,

543
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: I was about to say oracle again, Chase.

544
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: Just like going back to the five point thirty eight like,

545
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: because that's the analytics app that is easiest for me

546
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: to look at right now. The teams that I've been

547
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: surprised how much and how little the wins and losses

548
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: so far have affected things. They still have the Warriors

549
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: with a fifty percent chance of winning this series and

550
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: they're down two to oh, that's crazy. Whereas the Bucks

551
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: going down one oh, they only have a fifty two

552
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: percent chance according to them, of winning that series. So

553
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: like they're they're seeing something in the Miami series, whereas

554
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: like with the Warriors, they just expect them to come

555
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: back and pull it off.

556
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 4: Let me ask this, do we believe in there? Like

557
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: I understand that you know like that that the odds

558
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: are there or that they're but do we believe that?

559
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: And the reason why I ask that question is it's

560
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 4: difficult enough to beat a team four times in a

561
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: calendar year, but now you got to beat them four

562
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 4: out of five, and I recognize, like this is this

563
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: is the Dubs, this is the Warriors. We've seen, we've

564
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: seen their exploits. There's a desire to believe, But do

565
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 4: you act, like, say, justin, do you actually believe that

566
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 4: the Warriors is gonna come back and win the series?

567
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: Would it surprise me? No? If they want the series,

568
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: do I expect them to No? For that exact reason, bro,

569
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: four out of five times four you gotta win four

570
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: times and basically a week and a half against the

571
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: same team who hopefully will be making adjustments. And look,

572
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: they're the Warriors, man, They've been there, done that, bought

573
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: several championship t shirts along this run. So I'm not

574
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: counting them out at all. But if they lose Game three,

575
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: this series is over. Yeah, we're doing This series is over, man,

576
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: And it's just a matter of how many games would

577
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: it be? With it be four, would it be five?

578
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: Because let's just say they win Game three, Sacramento wins

579
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: Game four, Sacramento goes back to you know, Golden one

580
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: up three one. I don't see how Golden, who has

581
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: been an awful, historically awful road team this year, suddenly

582
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: cuts it on in that arena at that time with

583
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: that much momentum going against them, So.

584
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: Golden State's record on the road eleven and thirty this season.

585
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: Their home record also went compared to that, thirty three

586
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: and eight, like incredible, one of the best home records

587
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: in the league. But we talked about this a lot

588
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: during the regular season that like the West, when you

589
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: looked at like the win loss on the road was

590
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: like really bad for almost every team except the Sacramento

591
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: Kings twenty five and sixteen on the road, So they

592
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: they got it done on the road, unlike basically every

593
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: other Like even the Nuggets were nineteen and twenty two,

594
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: they were sub five hundred on the road. The Kings

595
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: had a really solid record on the road, so they

596
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: traveled well this season. We're going to see if it

597
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: holds up. But like that Game three is going to

598
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: be I don't know, very intriguing, you know.

599
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: How sometimes the stage you can tell when it's going

600
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: to be too much for like a young team, especially

601
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: a young team that has never been in the playoffs,

602
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: like the Sacramento Kings. I don't really see their heart

603
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: punk cooler like that. I think the Aaron Fox will

604
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: get up for a moment like that. I think Malik

605
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: Monk would get up for a moment like that. And

606
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: again we talk about this two one one theory, like

607
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: it would not shock me to see like a random

608
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: Trey Lyles game in Chase Harrison Barnes, Like Harrison Barnes,

609
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: going back, going back to Golden State. You know, Golden

610
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: State has talked about we don't panic. We've been through

611
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: all of these situations. Now's the time to panic, my friends,

612
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: because Game three is a must win, is a must win.

613
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: Your season is on the line in Game three. That's

614
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: that's not being hyperbole. That's not me trying to like

615
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: hype the moment up more than what it is. This

616
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: is it for the Golden State Warriors, especially Golden State

617
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: Warriors with Draymond Green, because I don't think many people

618
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: expect him to be back on the team next season.

619
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: So like it, history feels like it's happening in real

620
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: time right now. So I just hope the Golden State

621
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: Warriors treated as such and don't just go into it like, oh,

622
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: we're four time champions, we can cut it on whenever

623
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: we want. No, you can't.

624
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it turns out you can't, because I think you

625
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: would have him game two, Yeah, if you wanted to

626
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: and you lost by even more, how do we feel

627
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: about the other series? I mean, Sun's Clippers is gonna

628
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: there's gonna be another game by the time people.

629
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: Listen to this.

630
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: Same with Lakers and Grizzlies. Lakers and Grizzlies, that was

631
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: the game one that showed me the most. I think

632
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: we've been We've been watching talking about the Lakers a

633
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: lot of this podcast, but like seeing the Lakers put

634
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: it together at the moment that mattered the most. On

635
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: the defensive end was pretty impressive and on the offensive end.

636
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: That was another one where it's like, all right, we

637
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: got our Ruie game.

638
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: Got the game way in game one. Man, that's credible.

639
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean, but you could easily call that ad game

640
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: because of how dominant he was on the defensive end.

641
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: And that's what it comes down to, man, with the Lakers,

642
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: the defense. Since they made those trades, they've been one

643
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: of the better defensive teams in the league, like top

644
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: two or top three, you know, in terms of defense.

645
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: It all comes down to health, and in particular the

646
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: health of Lebron James, but really in particular the health

647
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: of Anthony Davis. When Anthony Davis had that stinger in

648
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: his arm and we all saw him mouth I can't

649
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: feel my arm. I think every Lakers fan in the

650
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: world was like, damn, that's it. And that's not a

651
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: fun place to live in if you're a Lakers fan,

652
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: because this team has the talent to win the championship,

653
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: but you just always feel like, man, is the shoe

654
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: gonna drop off the other foot? Like that's a really

655
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: traumatic and problematic way to be a fan. But being

656
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: a fan is traumatic. So it's really all about the

657
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: defense with this team, the defense and health. I think

658
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis if he remains healthy and prayer for le

659
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: he remains healthy, because you know, I've been reading up

660
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: on what the last couple of years have done for

661
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: his like his mental health. You know, people can crack

662
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: jokes on like social media, but this is a dude

663
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: who still feels all these things, like he don't want

664
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: to get hurt. Anthony Davis doesn't want to miss thirty

665
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: games here and there. So I hope this is a

666
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: prove it postseason for him in terms of just health.

667
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, man, that's the thing with the with

668
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: the with the Grizzlies. You know, I love the Grizzlies,

669
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 2: but you got you gotta watch what you ask for. Man,

670
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Dylan Brooks here. Oh, you know, like

671
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: you're already shorthanded when it comes to your big men.

672
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: Brandon Clark is gone for the season, as Steven Adams

673
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: isn't coming back this season. So now you basically just

674
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: have Jared Jackson Junior out there. You gotta pray he

675
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: doesn't get in foul trouble. So we'll see what happens

676
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: with this series. But if you're the Lakers, you're not

677
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: necessarily concerned about a game plan. You're concerned about the

678
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: injury report. Yeah, and trying to keep that as bear

679
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: as possible.

680
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 4: Justin you hit it on the head. I can you

681
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: straight up as a Lakers fan, you find you what

682
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 4: you have to do is you have to just come

683
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 4: to terms with he's gonna get banged up at times

684
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 4: and you just hope it's not bad.

685
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is that simple.

686
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 4: But when you know to your point, when he's in there,

687
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 4: and I'll just make this point before you go to

688
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: the next series, jack when he's in there, he's the

689
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 4: most destructive force on the defensive end, and and I

690
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: honestly think I recognize he's been injured off at different

691
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 4: times in his career. But if we look back at

692
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: the end of his career and he doesn't have a

693
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 4: Defensive Player of the Year, much like Tim Duncan never

694
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 4: won one. I think it's a travesty and just an

695
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: absurdity because when he's right, they're in the mix in

696
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 4: any conversation.

697
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

698
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 3: Russell's played well since being acquired by the Lakers as

699
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: Van drives, but he struggled along on a plot by Davis,

700
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 3: swats it off the backboard Tillman fakes. Now he goes

701
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 3: right to Davis. Another block for Davis. The average two

702
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: per games are the regular season. Aldama's also in now

703
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: for Memphis, Jackson Jones blocked by Davis.

704
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: That's block number three already.

705
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: When I've been played nine minutes.

706
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: All right, and the other series, let's take a quick

707
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: break and we'll come back and talk. I mean, broad strokes,

708
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: Suns Clippers will be right now, and we're back and

709
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: Game two of Sons Clips tips off in a matter

710
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: of hours. So that's where we are. We are chronologically disadvantaged.

711
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: We don't know exactly what's happened, but game one was

712
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: very interesting. I think surprised a lot of people who

713
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: had the Sons coming out of the West, surprised a

714
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: lot of people who gave up on Westbrook. Me never me.

715
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: I've always from day one, I say, you can shoot

716
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: three of nineteen and still be the best player in

717
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: the game coming down the stretch. There were a lot

718
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 1: of times when he was doing these sorts of things.

719
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: At the end of the game, he would just also

720
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: take a terrible shot that would ultimately lose the game

721
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: for the Lakers. And this was best of both worlds.

722
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: He did the things that affect the game and then

723
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: took only like one or two really terrible shots and

724
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: got to the free throw line and made them either side.

725
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: Paul gets it in. Here's Booker suns down three on

726
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: the break. Here in Game one, Booker taking off west Brook,

727
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: a block.

728
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: By Westbrook and it frozen off a Booker.

729
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: It is Clipper ball. Want to play Russell Westbrook? Did

730
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: this show you enough that you're off the suns on

731
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: the Clippers? Or how are you guys feeling?

732
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: This is one of those series. I won't rush the

733
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: judgment off Game one too much because I feel like

734
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: all the key components are still there. Sayings Paul George.

735
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: We knew he wasn't going to be there going into

736
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: this series, whereas you know Lakers and Grizzly's we don't

737
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: know the extent of Jah's injury and we know how

738
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: much that changes the complexion of that and so on

739
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: and so forthwar with others, but with the Suns, you

740
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 2: I would hope going in the game too, that here's

741
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: a novel concept. Get Kevin Durant the ball, and get

742
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: him the ball a lot because good things Durant that

743
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: there should be no reason why he has a disappearing

744
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: act in the first quarter because he's not really getting

745
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: the ball, and then in clutch time in the fourth

746
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: quarter he's not really getting the ball, but everything in

747
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: between he gives you twenty seven, nine and eleven like

748
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: he can do that with his eyes closed, Phoenix. If

749
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: you have Kevin Durant on your team, which you do,

750
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: get him the ball in any type of scenario, good

751
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: things will happen. And I hope that's the adjustment that

752
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: Minnie Williams and his crew makes in Game two, because

753
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: you know, we got Kawhi Leonard and Kevin Durant. This

754
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 2: is a generational type matchup and it doesn't really happen

755
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: too much. I think that there's a really good piece

756
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: on ESPN dot com about that right now, just about

757
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: the legacy of having these two go at it, and like,

758
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: these are two of the best players of all time.

759
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: Kawhi definitely a two way player and Kevin Durant you

760
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: can make the argument he may be the greatest offensive

761
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 2: player of all time. But I hope there's a commitment

762
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: to this. Phoenix has so many weapons on offense, and

763
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: I get that, yes, you should divvy the ball around,

764
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: but when it's winning time, get the ball to your guy.

765
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 2: And that guy is KD Trey five.

766
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 4: I'm wondering, do you guys, I mean, this may be

767
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 4: just an obvious yes, but you know, how much do

768
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 4: you think it plays in there seemingly having to figure

769
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 4: it out on the fly just because he wasn't in

770
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 4: that lineup, you know, on the stretch of the season,

771
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: because I saw a rotation out there where it was

772
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 4: Devin Booker and none of the other guys. And that's

773
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 4: no disrespect to NBA players, y'all know what I'm saying.

774
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 4: I didn't quite understand how you have you know, KD

775
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 4: and you know, Chris Paul, and you're not staggering a you.

776
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: Know, someway.

777
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: But to that point, I came into this absolutely thinking

778
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 4: Phoenix would win it. I did not factor in the

779
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 4: battle on the bench is enough in my estimation because

780
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: quite frankly, and it's not taking anything away or it's

781
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 4: not a shot at money Williams. But what Tyler has

782
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 4: shown me is that he's a master and absolute master

783
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: at game planning as well as adjusting.

784
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I think I was gonna say my

785
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 1: two big takeaways from game one is like Kawhi still

786
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: has it. I slept on how good he still is

787
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: even though he's you know, a little bit older and

788
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: didn't play that much for the previous Yeah, exactly. But

789
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: the other big takeaway Tyleru is just such a great coach. Underrated.

790
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: Tyler is incredible man. And Jabbar you mentioned in terms

791
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: of like end game adjustments. I don't know if there's

792
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: any better coach than Tyler, so I give him any

793
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: chance I get to give Tyleru all the credit in

794
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: the world. I will give Tyloo all the credit in

795
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: the world. And Jabbar you mentioned something too, just in

796
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 2: terms of yes, Phoenix has the stars and the offensive

797
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: higher power. They also gave up a lot of stuff

798
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: in that trade to get Kevin Durant, but they still

799
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: have the firepower there. But there's a familiarity with the

800
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: Clippers that's not there with the Suns. Yes, they've only

801
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: played eight or nine games with Kevin Durant, Whereas this

802
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: is the most basketball we've seen Kawhi Leonard play in

803
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: what two three seasons, and I believe he played going

804
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: into the playoffs. He played I believe thirty two of

805
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: the last thirty seven games going into the playoffs. So

806
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: there's a consistency there within that offense even without Paul George,

807
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: because it's like, okay, well until Paul George gets back,

808
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 2: here's how we're going to funnel and facilitate the offense.

809
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: And of course it goes through Kawhi and you saw

810
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: that in Game one. Kawhi like he doesn't have the

811
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: prettiest jump shot in the world, but I swear every

812
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: time he shot it just goes in. Like it like

813
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: that little line drive shot that like Kobe used to

814
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: have in the early parts of his career. I'm like,

815
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: it's not going in, but when it goes in, every

816
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 2: time and Kawhi is one of the best big game

817
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: players that we'll ever see in basketball. So where a

818
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: lot of people were saying, like, oh, I want to

819
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: avoid the Suns in the first round. I don't really talk,

820
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 2: but if you try to really go inside of his head, cool,

821
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: I didn't really care who he's playing basketball, bro, and

822
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: it shows. So who knows what's gonna happen in Game

823
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: two except y'all that are listening.

824
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: His shot has so much backspin on it sometimes I'm

825
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: afraid it's going to like create a wormhole and go

826
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: back in time.

827
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 4: It's because his hands wrap around the ball.

828
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he couldn't. The fact that he couldn't shoot

829
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: at all when he came into the league and is

830
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: now this good a shooter is you know, it gives

831
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons fans like myself hope that will never.

832
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's gonna happen.

833
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: Get trade to the Spurs. That's what Wolves, Nuggets. The

834
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: Nuggets looked amazing Game one. I still think the Nuggets

835
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: are slept on a little bit, uh, just because everybody's

836
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: too excited about all these other series with the bigger

837
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: stars and the Nuggets are terrifying.

838
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 4: Yokich wasn't even at its best, and I think he

839
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: fouls out in that game and they still blow him

840
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 4: out by thirty Yeah, like, no disrespect, but all disrespect.

841
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that series is not one of those series

842
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: that's like, why are you at game six right now?

843
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: Why did you just close this out of game four? Like, yeah,

844
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: let's let's not prolong this. We already know how this

845
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: is going to end.

846
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I could see them taken at

847
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: least one because Aunt has still not really done anything,

848
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: and yeah, sure that's happening at some point. All right,

849
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: rapid fire. This is just the fastest segment in podcasting.

850
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: First thought, best thought, Jabar, you want to kick us off?

851
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 2: All right? You ready?

852
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: Oh well, you're just gonna take it like that. You're

853
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: not even gonna oh.

854
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 4: Well, I mean he look, we're usually like no, you

855
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 4: go no, Justin, do you have a preference as to

856
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 4: who asks you the question first?

857
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: No?

858
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: No, I'm secure. Wow, okay, fine, Jack, all right, you

859
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: gotta are you sure?

860
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: I'm certain?

861
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: It just seemed like you really needed this one. All right, No,

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Speaker 1: that's cool, all right, Justin? Is there a single NBA

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Speaker 1: player you would take right now over the chance of

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Speaker 1: taking Victor Webbing Yama with the first pick this summer.

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Speaker 2: It's currently in the NBA right now. Yes, I would

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Speaker 2: say probably the only one that I would take. It's

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Speaker 2: probably honest.

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Speaker 4: That's everybody's answer.

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Speaker 1: That's been the answer. But the fact that it takes

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Speaker 1: people as much time as it does is so crazy.

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Speaker 1: Because Wemby Yama like that's as well. I think that's

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Speaker 1: the right answer too.

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Speaker 2: It is like we can be real about that.

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Speaker 4: But outside of him, no, give me Wimby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think like Jokich has been pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 1: Uh, he's one two m vps and a and he's

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Speaker 1: pretty young still.

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Speaker 4: But just what Jack is doing is this is supposed

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Speaker 4: to be rapid fire. He is prolonging it, waiting for

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Speaker 4: you to stop him.

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Speaker 1: Oh, what I was saying was really interesting, but you

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Jabari.

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Speaker 4: Well, for the record, officially it was very interesting, Jack,

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Speaker 4: I want you yeah, all right, but keep it going,

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Speaker 4: all right? What is your favorite NBA city to visit

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Speaker 4: and what is your must have meal in that town?

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Speaker 2: Ooh, my favorite NBA city to visit would probably be

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Speaker 2: it's my favorite city period in New Orleans. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: first place I go to whenever I go to New Orleans,

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Speaker 2: I gotta go to Drago's and get the chogger rolled oysters. Yes, please,

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Speaker 2: I have to. I have to. Mm hmm, Okay, New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: I'm What is your boldest postseason prediction for this year?

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Speaker 2: The Knicks mess around and make the conference finals.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Hey, if.

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Speaker 4: I could see that, I could see that path.

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Speaker 2: Man. Look, Jalen Brunson is a beautiful When I say this,

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Speaker 2: I don't mean this as any disrespect, you know, and

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Speaker 2: in football, when you call somebody a game manager is

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Speaker 2: like a step down for a quarterback. I think Jalen

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Speaker 2: Brunson is one of the greatest game managers in the

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Speaker 2: game today. I love his game and I don't think

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Speaker 2: he's scared him. We see how important of a player

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Speaker 2: he is. Look where Dallas is right now, and look

906
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Speaker 2: where the Knicks are right now. So yeah, my boldest prediction,

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Speaker 2: the Knicks make the Eastern Conference Finals.

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Speaker 1: We've talked before about teams having like gravitational equilibrium, like

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Speaker 1: where like you know, Lebron for a certain run of

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Speaker 1: his career, just any team he was on was going

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Speaker 1: to be in the finals. That was just like where

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Speaker 1: he goes, well maybe Jalen Brunson. It turns out he

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Speaker 1: just wants to be in the conference finals one way

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Speaker 1: or another. That's where he's gonna end up.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like one way, he's gonna get you there.

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna talk a lot, but he'll get you there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's pretty cool. And he has been awesome

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Speaker 1: to watch this season.

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Speaker 2: All right, this was for the money. This is where

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Speaker 2: this is the one that matters the most. Okay, Jack,

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Speaker 2: where Jabari the one who starts their name with the

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Speaker 2: letter j M including myself.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so we're all winners triple J. We are

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Speaker 1: the defensive player of the year. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I can't pick between y'all because I want to come

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Speaker 2: back on the show man and I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: create any bad blood and burn some bridges out the door.

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Speaker 1: No bad blood whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: I understand pick Jack.

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Speaker 2: I'm still going to ask.

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Speaker 1: You very close to lifetime ban, sir.

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Speaker 2: I don't need that, man, I love it too much. Here.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was great having you as always.

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Speaker 2: Thank you fellas.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Read you?

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Speaker 2: All that stuff you found me on social media? It's

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Speaker 2: very easy to find me. It's actually my name at

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Speaker 2: Justin Tinsley at Twitter, on Instagram. You read my work

939
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Speaker 2: on The Aandscape dot com. You can see me on

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Speaker 2: Around the Horn at least once a week. I'm a

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Speaker 2: regular panelist on there on ESPN daily for a few

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Speaker 2: episodes and one of the rotating hosts that they have

943
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Speaker 2: on there now that Pabulo Torri has since moved on

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Speaker 2: to bigger and better things. Yeah, that's that's where you

945
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Speaker 2: can find me. I'm always around, though, I try to

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Speaker 2: stay as active as it can.

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Speaker 1: Nice. Well, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Make sure you check out Lebron's Power please. It's fantastic series. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that that.

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Speaker 2: It's a series that definitely got going on at ndscape

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Speaker 2: dot com that examines Lebron's impact off the court just

952
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Speaker 2: in terms of variety of fashions. So it's been really

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Speaker 2: fun working on that series throughout the entire season. I'm

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Speaker 2: glad the Lakers turned it around because for a while

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, they're really going to miss the

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Speaker 2: playoffs and I got this whole like dope figures going

957
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Speaker 2: on a battle, but hey love, hey, look guy, watch

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Speaker 2: over babies and fools, and I ain't been a baby

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Speaker 2: in a long time, so.

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Speaker 1: I love it all right. Well, make sure you give

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Speaker 1: us a follow on Twitter at mad Boosti's that is

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Speaker 1: going to do it for us. This week, go watch

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Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs. We'll be coming to you with a

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Speaker 1: quicker turnaround going forward, so you can look forward to that.

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Speaker 1: And we're back next week. Bye bye.