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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to episode to eighty four. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to Heat Sanders. He was working in oil field. I

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Speaker 1: Next thing you know, he's getting santin ovations everywhere he goes.

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Speaker 1: So it's a great story. Hang out for that. And

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Speaker 1: here are the top five songs of the week that

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Speaker 1: week's guest it was Brooke Eden has a new song

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Speaker 1: called Sunroof. If you want to hear a story, go

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Speaker 1: back and listen on last week's episodes fantastic. Here's the

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Speaker 1: clip of Sunroof. At number four, new artist and TikTok

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Speaker 1: or Ashley Cook put out a new song called Sunday

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Speaker 1: Morning kind of Saturday Night. I need Sunday Saturday Night.

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Speaker 1: She's got a little heat on her right now, and

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Speaker 1: good for her. We had her on a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: was it. Yeah, Yeah, she got a little heat on her.

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Speaker 1: People were like going, Okay, I don't know if she's

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Speaker 1: you can develop a TikTok following, they'll sign you. I

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Speaker 1: think we saw that with Priscilla Block I mean, you

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Speaker 1: I'm number one in the iTunes country chart, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: But she's killing it. Good for her. At number three,

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Speaker 1: Thomas Read announced he's releasing a new album called Country

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Speaker 1: Again side a It'll be at April. He released two

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Speaker 1: Here's a clip of Wanted Again this We're Good six

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Speaker 1: shot number two. This week, Randa Lambert announced she's releasing

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Speaker 1: a new project called The Marfa Tapes on May seventh.

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Speaker 1: His Arms. It is Some Half Man and down Easy

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Speaker 1: Breaking Horses It San Tome and number one is Gray Robinson.

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Speaker 1: She has a new single called Happy She was on

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Speaker 1: And here's the clip of Happy, I'm Happy, Happy, I'm Happy.

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Speaker 1: It's s some time and that is so searching. Never

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Speaker 1: Some other songs that check out that didn't make the

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Speaker 1: called Drink a Little Whiskey Down. Palmley and Blanco Brown

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Speaker 1: put an acoustic version of Just the Way, and Maroon

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Speaker 1: five has a new song called Beautiful Mistakes with Megan

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Speaker 1: the Stallion new albums. I don't know who any of

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Speaker 1: Nelson has a new book coming out called Letters to

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Speaker 1: America June twenty nine. It's an inspiring collection of letters

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Speaker 1: table book. I bet like it's not something you're gonna

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Speaker 1: real letter or two. You know, I probably get that one. Well,

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Speaker 1: Kenny Rogers Number one's coming to Vinyl for the first time,

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Speaker 1: And also I'm not cool Vinyl. I don't like Eddie.

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Speaker 1: you doing? Uh? CMA Fest canceled for a second year

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Speaker 1: later this year, and him and Palmly are killing it

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Speaker 1: right now with this song. All right, there's your news.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy today's podcast. I love talking with Heath Sanders. You're

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Speaker 1: Guess with Heath Sanders right now, one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: just Friday and Saturday nights? Yeah, but it's man, it's

424
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 1: not we're playing like the local VFW and it's just

425
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 1: all our buddies and um, you know, after after the

426
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: drum thing was done, you know, we started a little

427
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: duo and that we only played maybe six or seven

428
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 1: shows man, before I said, you know what this, I'm

429
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: getting up too early during the week and then we're

430
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 1: staying out all night party in And it's crazy that

431
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: they didn't let you sing. If you just sing one song,

432
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: you're like I'd sing occasionally on the drums. How do

433
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 1: you sing one song and they not look at you

434
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: and go, oh, you're the one that should sing. Well,

435
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 1: It's it's like you're better than the lead singer. To

436
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 1: be honest, singing, just singing, Yeah, I would think so. Yeah, Well,

437
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,479
Speaker 1: but then again, you know, you sign up as a drummer. Man.

438
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: You don't want to step on anybody's toes. If I

439
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: was a singer of that band and you started singing,

440
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: and I knew you were better than be like no

441
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: more songs for that guy, you wouldn't just saying no

442
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: their note. You're just sing one and beat me and

443
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: been like that while we have the drummer singing. You

444
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: need to focus on your So okay, you're waking up

445
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: two early in the morning, you decide you don't want

446
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: to wake up and then stay up all night and

447
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: play it and then do it again. Yeah, and then

448
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: I just dropped it completely. I just I just walked

449
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: away from him. Was so hard. No, what was it doing? Called? Uh,

450
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: it wouldn't. It was just it was just me and

451
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: my buddy Daniel, And what would you do? I would

452
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: sing and play the bongos. I had a little set

453
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: of bongoes on the tambourine that I would like tap

454
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: around on. Oh it was so bad, dude, it was

455
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 1: so bad. And he wouldn't do it. He played the guitar,

456
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 1: he'd played the guitar and sing, and then and then

457
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: when I sing, he'd sing harmony for me. And where

458
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: would you guys play? We actually played? Uh. Our biggest

459
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 1: gig was Jibs and Moralton. You remember Jibs and Stale

460
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 1: used to play it a lot. I didn't go Morrelton

461
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: was kind of a little too up north for me. Yeah. Still,

462
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: I used to go watch Still, like when when he

463
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: was a big deal back home years ago. Yeah, you

464
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 1: go watch Matt Stelle. Oh yeah, dude, that's funny. Oh yeah,

465
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: brood then absolutely phenomenal, phenomenal man um, you ever heard

466
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: his Aaron Neville impression? Like, dude, Yeah, I remember before.

467
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. I'll never forget that. I was

468
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: probably got. I was probably twenty years old when I

469
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: started to do that. Thinking about Matt two is because

470
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: Matt and I are buds, not too I mean, we

471
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: bond over Arkansas sports, much like Justin Moore. I mean,

472
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: especially with guys in general. We need something to bring

473
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: us together so then we can be together. I like,

474
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: I like Matt still, and I would if I were

475
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: hay Len Will she calls her girlfriends, let's just do

476
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: something together. However, I would never call Matt and be like, hey, buddy,

477
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: let's just do something together, like hey, the game's on,

478
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: or let's go because I took Matt to watch the

479
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: one of these football games, like we're going to the game,

480
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: let's go. But it's just a different world for guys.

481
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: We can't just be like I just I just haven't

482
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: been around you in a while. I need to be

483
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: around So Matt and I use arkans all sports out,

484
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: much like gotta do with a lot of my guys

485
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: with the hunting, you know, a lot of my boys

486
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: with the hunting and fishing, fantasy football, or even video games.

487
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: Like I'll be talking to some of my friends on

488
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: video games playing basketball. I don't. I like video games fine,

489
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: but mostly I like playing with my my like my friends,

490
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: and we talk and we've talked a little bit basketball.

491
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: But it's also like what's happening with kids, Like what's happening,

492
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: What's what's happened on live? What's happening with But Matt

493
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: steals oddly incredibly smart, like the guys. It it's so stupid.

494
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: He's so smart. But it's crazy. You go watch him

495
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: back in the day. Were you doing music at all?

496
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 1: When he was playing, So you were just going as

497
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: a fan. Yeah, yeah, just as would you ever go

498
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: to like karaoke places and singing people be like dang dud,

499
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: why don't you like trying to sing for real? Yeah? Yeah,

500
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: but you just you know, I mean, did you take

501
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: that with a grain of salt? You know, just because

502
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: you're the you're a good singer in Marshal, Arkansas? Agree?

503
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: I agree, But a great singer from Marshall, Arkansas might

504
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: be a good singer. And did you ever were you

505
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: a journey open arms kind of guy? Yeah, journey My

506
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: mom loved journey Man. Here I am, come on, I

507
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: can see he's doing that in the whole place. Did

508
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: you get girls by singing? Yeah, they came out to

509
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god. That was kind of the icebreaker.

510
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, get tar around the camp fire on tailgate.

511
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: But that works every time you quit music. But how

512
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: long did you stop doing shows? Um? Oh, it had

513
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,719
Speaker 1: to be you had to be eleven years, twelve years? Insane, right,

514
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: isn't that that's insane? Nuts? So, but is there this

515
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: thirst inside of you to somehow, at some point get

516
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: back out three minutes for fun? Or had you just

517
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: been like you know that was an old me. Yeah

518
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: there there really was, man, They're there, always was that there.

519
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: But you just man, you eat put Mike and a

520
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: living in front. I everythink. You know, you can't be

521
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: dragging in Monday morning, you know when not when gas

522
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: lives depend on you, you know, and you be in

523
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: there embody in mind. Um. But I'll tell you what

524
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: really re regn out of this. And I haven't had

525
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: the opportunity to tell this story very much, so I don't.

526
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: But uh, there's a girl name of Charlotte Lee here

527
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: in town. She's in Arkansas, and back back when they

528
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: cut my hours in the oil field, I was looking

529
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: for side work and you know, on top of playing

530
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: music on the side a little bit. Um kind of

531
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: had that idea in the back of my mind, but

532
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: it just wasn't It didn't come to fru wishing yet.

533
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: But I had a friend that knew I was looking

534
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: for sidework and she called me up one day. She

535
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, I got this girl. She needs her band,

536
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: needs a ride and needs a driver in a van

537
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: to go to Billy Bob's in Texas to open up

538
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: for the Eli Young band. And she's like, pays pretty good.

539
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: So do you want to do it? And I said absolutely,

540
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: So one weekend I spent driving Charlotte down to Billy

541
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: Bob's and just being around that environment again, and spending

542
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: the night at Billy Bob's and watching Eli Young and

543
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: helping them load in and load out. I caught the bug, man,

544
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: I caught the bug. And it was the next week

545
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: that that up my p A system and started play. Right,

546
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: So you going to help somebody else get down there,

547
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: it's what helps you get here. Absolutely yeah. I was

548
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: eight up by the time I got back. I was like,

549
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: oh my god, I want to do this again. So

550
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: when you get home you think I just watched it,

551
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: it reminds me of how much I loved it. What's

552
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: what's the first step? Then? Do you start going let

553
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: me write some songs? You get an old guitar out? Yeah,

554
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: you find something you can sale so you can afford

555
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: to to buy to buy the stuff that it. You

556
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: know that it takes to do that, and and yet, man,

557
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: I'll tell you my first gig out Bobby was what

558
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: did you still have a guitar? Though? Um? Yeah, yeah,

559
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: I had an old guitar and how was it? Is awful?

560
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: I still got it. Yeah, but it was good enough

561
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: to go and play the bar. And is that what

562
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: you did was good enough? Yeah? So what was what

563
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: was the first first per I won't even say show.

564
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: What was your first performance back after sitting out for

565
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: ten years? So, uh, we discussed the other day. I

566
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: mean you discussed my Buddies restaurant run my buddy round

567
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: dressed and Leslie Arkansas, and uh he offered to let

568
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: me come play up there. And it was a little

569
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: sooner than I expected, So I had to cram learning

570
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: a two hour set list. You know, hadn't done this

571
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: in TOLF thirteen years. And uh, I get up there

572
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: and I do pretty good my first set. Now the

573
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: town comes out. I mean, of course everybody knows I

574
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: can say, so people came wat. Yeah, so people came out.

575
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: I mean the place was packed and um, coming out

576
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: of retirement packing out Ryan's main Street grill baby. Um. Anyways,

577
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: to get up there and in my first set goes

578
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: goes pretty good for you know, first polished upe as

579
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: I am, which is not very uh. But the second set,

580
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: Now Ryan's got a mom and her name is Dicky,

581
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: and she's just she's this big sweetheart. You ever meet

582
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: in your laugh. But she's got a little lory set there.

583
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: Now what does that mean. I mean she's just got

584
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: a little she get a little meaneness center, you know,

585
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: but she just sweeties can beat. And she when I

586
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: come off for a break after my first set, she

587
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: walked up and she to me a Scotch glass full

588
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: of patron was fault in lime as she said there

589
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: and I turned it up, Bobby, and that was that

590
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: was the biggest mistake of playing them. He's a industry

591
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: to date. Because I got back up there and by

592
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: the time I got about my fourth song, that drone

593
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: hit me, and I think about a third of the

594
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: people left. I got it. No, I don't know if

595
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: you're being you know, facetious exaggerating a little bit. You

596
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: do you think that you were slurring your guitar playing

597
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: wasn't a goain? Yeah, I think I started probably missing

598
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: chords and slurring a little bit and uh yeah, and

599
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: the hometown was pretty disappointed to me. I'll come down

600
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: off the stage and and I told Ryan, I was like, dude,

601
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: I think this is I don't think this is for me, man,

602
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't think this is from a period. Yeah, grand

603
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: opening grand clothes. I was drunk, Yeah, I was drunk,

604
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: but I was humiliated something something fierce. What do you

605
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: tell you? He's like, no, dude, no, you're meant to

606
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: do that. So it's next. What did you do after that?

607
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: You get there again? Yeah? Yeah, I ended up playing

608
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: rhymes a few more towns and the local VFW. There's

609
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: always the VFW. Man, Um, what will they give you

610
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: fifty bucks or anything? Yeah? Yeah, you know tips and

611
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: fifty bucks, or they charge a little cover and you

612
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: know a couple of three bucks and you make make

613
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: gas money. Man, That's really what what it was for me, dude.

614
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: It was all about by being able to buy my

615
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: launch at work, you know, gas money, and also some

616
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: sort of fulfillment, right like you had the bug, you

617
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: needed the bug to be fature. Yeah. Yeah, So at

618
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: what point did you make that video? Did you start

619
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: to play bars and make us start making a little

620
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: more money as you started to get better? Was there

621
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: like a scene near where you were and I saw

622
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: where you could play a bar They give you a

623
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: hundred hundred bucks though, that's really yeah, the crowds. Once

624
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: I stuck with it, the crowd started kind of turning

625
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: out and and local businesses. You know, words spreads pretty

626
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: fast in those little towns, and you know on Facebook

627
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I think I had about five followers

628
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: from my Facebook, so um, word was getting out and

629
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: I started playing some restaurants and bars and and Conway

630
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: and Clinton and stuff, and um, yeah it was. It

631
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: was pretty wild, man. Look back on when I heard

632
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: you playing that that what bar was that you're playing in?

633
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: When I heard that clip the stable to one, I

634
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: was in my bedroom at my house. Oh that wasn't

635
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: I guess that's right. That's right. I was thinking of

636
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: another video of you playing at a bar somewhere that

637
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: someone had sent me. But that's right, it wasn't your bedroom.

638
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: What kind of places were you playing at that point,

639
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: same same stuff. Yeah, just little restaurants and little bars, man.

640
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: I mean mostly it was like like if I played

641
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: a bar in in Marshall likes a place like Ryan's.

642
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: You know, people came to listen. If I played a

643
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: bar in Conway, a third of the people came to listen,

644
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: and the other two thirds were just there to eat

645
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: their meal. And yeah, I was background noise. Did you

646
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: think that you had a career at all? Or you

647
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: the day you recorded that in your room, did you

648
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: have a just a sliver that you could do this

649
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: for a living? That's that's still being honest. Yea honest No, sir,

650
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: not not ever, not every one time that did it

651
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: ever cross my mind? Hey man, you might have a

652
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: chance in Nashville. You might have a chance with might

653
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: to live in doing this. Have you ever been up

654
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: here to Nashville. I've never seen the town. So one

655
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: night I'm on Facebook and a friend said, hey, you

656
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: see this guy heat Standers. He's from, you know, around

657
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: where we're from, obviously, And I was like, uh no,

658
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: let me watch it. And ever I get videos, good god.

659
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean, if somebody sings, period, I'm tagged in it, dude,

660
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: any video, any video I comment on TikTok or Instagram,

661
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: Hey dude, can you tag Bobby and let so TikTok's

662
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: but Facebook, you know, people leave music on my car

663
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: if they know, you know. But it's I mean, that's

664
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: the tree that I grew. So I ain't hating the tree,

665
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: but sometimes trail dropping on and your head like that hurts,

666
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: but it's it's a great tree. But I was like,

667
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: all right, let me let me look it's because somebody

668
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: from where I'm from is gonna get a little more

669
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: of a look than somebody not, at least a first look.

670
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, let me see this guy in

671
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: good And I heard you and I was like, wow, guy,

672
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Then I remember I messaged you on

673
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: Facebook and just said, hey, heats this by bone and

674
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: you didn't message me back for a little bit because

675
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: I think maybe you thought it was a spam account. No,

676
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: I was actually on the phone with me. Yeah, I

677
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: was on the phone with my tour manager because he's

678
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: the one that called me and told me you wrote

679
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: me because he wrote me on my music page and

680
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: he called me to music page or is he was

681
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: he he was part of it. Yeah, he was on

682
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: it and he saw me message. He saw he saw you.

683
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: I actually saw the message pop up after he had called.

684
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: I got off and the banner was still up. Um.

685
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: But I end up calling him back and I was like, man,

686
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that's I think that's a spam account.

687
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: I think that. So then one of my producers, Morgan

688
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: or Elea was Morgan. So Morrigan now works with me

689
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: on my management team. But she message he was like, no,

690
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: that's really him. And so you and I talked and

691
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't remember if I said hey it was was

692
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: it like hey, get to Nashville tomorrow or this week

693
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: or I don't remember. Man, that's such a blur. But

694
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: what's crazy. What's crazy is that when Morgan answered the phone,

695
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: or when I asked the phone, it was Morgan, like, dude,

696
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: I felt like I knew her. I've been listening, I dude,

697
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: I've been listening to you guys for five years. I'm

698
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: talking religiously every morning from six to ten. Dude, that

699
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: was it. I mean, it work by myself. It could

700
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: have been a person pranking you as me too, right, Yeah, yeah,

701
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. Yeah. And I remember

702
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: telling Markan, hey, let's get him in Nashville and you

703
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: drove overnight. If I remember, I don't think so. Here's

704
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: the deal. Here's why I don't think so, and I

705
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: don't remember it very well. But better story if you

706
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: say that. But well, I know it kind of is.

707
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: I know what it kind of is, and I like,

708
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: I don't want to kill it. But um, so here's

709
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: the deal. Here's the truth. Man. When my phone went

710
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: off and it was you, I was sitting down. I

711
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: was sitting there in my living room with my pin

712
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: in my hand and my guitar in my lap, rotting Bloodline,

713
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: Rotting Bloodline. I had a first verse and a half

714
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: of course written. When the that's the first song I

715
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: ever wrote, dude, Like, yeah, well, so I tried to

716
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: write a couple of songs in my early twenties, back

717
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: when I was doing the show thing and they were

718
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: so bad, dude, They're so bad that I did never

719
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: try again. I just thought it wasn't for me, and

720
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: I will. I think it was Sunday. I think it

721
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: was a sun you reach up because I woke up

722
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: that day like, man, I ain't got nothing to do.

723
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: Let's start, Let's try to write a song. Because the

724
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: video just went viral and it kind of inspired me

725
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. And so that was crazy. The first

726
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: time I've ever picked up a pen in thirteen fourteen years,

727
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: phone goes off and it's the DJ that I listened

728
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: to every morning, the Morning show I listened to every

729
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: morning for five years. You know, it's like, I don't

730
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: know what kind of time and anyways, no listen. That's crazy, dude,

731
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 1: that's crazy. It could be some sort of divide something.

732
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: I just don't like to throw myself in the mix

733
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: with Yep, me and God. We worked that out. We

734
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: had a little talk. I knew it Bobby making phone

735
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: calls uhum. But but no, I ended up calling my

736
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: buddy Jamie Jones as soon as I got the phone

737
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: with you, um, the next day, because you invited me

738
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: down the same one of my songs, will do. I

739
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: didn't have a song. I have half a song, So

740
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 1: I freaked out. Dude, I agreed, but I was freaking

741
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: out and said I didn't know you didn't have a

742
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: bad dude, I didn't. Uh. And I call my buddy

743
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: Jamie Jones, which lives in Dardenell and I think we

744
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: spent a day on it. And because I think it

745
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: was only like two days you gave me to get

746
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: to Nashville. Um. But I that's why I say I

747
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: don't think it was over. Not because me and Jamie

748
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: finished the song like the next day. And then I

749
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: was sitting in the motel room the night before the

750
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: show learning how to play the Dying Thing and trying

751
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: to remember the words. You know, So what was that

752
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: was that bloodline? We'll get a clip of this here

753
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: here you going. He's the last name, County Ross, He's

754
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: got it, Challis tam Challis ton Nes seeing to its

755
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: fine jo away, trying to find a little reason. Who

756
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: das booth rocks over done such a good job. I

757
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: mean it sounds like a rock song. Yeah, sounds like

758
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: a cut your boy singing a rock song. So you're

759
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: in Nashville. Obviously you drove overnight. I was like, get on,

760
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: you jump in the car immediately, drow It's fast. You

761
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: could alway in Nahville. I think I'm gonna go with

762
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: that story, though Mike I was thinking of I think

763
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with that. ConTroll with it, bro. Yeah, I

764
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: really felt that way that that was it. I could

765
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: just tell people that me and Jamie finished it over

766
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: not in the truck. Yes, I remember again, I'm gonna

767
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: tell you what I remember. It may not be as accurate, foggy,

768
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: but I remember thinking you were you were good. But

769
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: I wanted people to tell you if you were any

770
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: good or not like that, because again I was biased.

771
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: You grew up or I grew up and you were good.

772
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: I was like, superstar, just go ahead and get it

773
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: to him. So why brought in three people right, Brian

774
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: ratt Um, help me, brother, No, you're wrong guy. George,

775
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: Now George was George there? I think was there? It

776
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: was Brian Rott, somebody, a lady from Sony and then

777
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: um it was a guitar for was the guitar for

778
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: what's his name? Oh it's on tap my tongue. Man. Yeah,

779
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even I don't remember. Lauren

780
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: Jo yeah, Laura, Okay. All I remember is I brought

781
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: in three people that were nice enough to come up

782
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: and and give you. Christian Bush. It was Christian Boys,

783
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: that's right, who's like a dear friend. That's why I

784
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: called him in. And he also has so many number ones. Yeah,

785
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: I was Christian. He was in town, which is which

786
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: was rare. Yeah, Christian Bush, somebody from Sony and who

787
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: else lt It was l LT and Brian. So you

788
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: come in, you perform, and didn't you leave with one

789
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: of them or like go somewhere with one of them? Yeah?

790
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: First I went and walked around Sony with with lt

791
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: UM and they liked you. They didn't have to do that. Yeah. No,

792
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: they introduced me all the staff and then and then uh,

793
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: Brian said to call him after we left there. So

794
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: we went hung with Brian at Universal and went up

795
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: to his office and sit and listen to a bunch

796
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: of uncut Chris Stapleton stuff and a bunch of uncut

797
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: Eric Church stuff and it was awesome. That's that's gotta

798
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: be cool, dude. It was crazy. I left left there

799
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: with a stack of vinyls. I could barely get out

800
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: the door. Man, it was soul killer. That my first

801
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: trip to Nashville and I get to go do that. Really,

802
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: that was crazy. So how did it? Because I've known

803
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: George for a long time, how did you guys get

804
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: into contact? Um? So I met my management pretty early on,

805
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: which is Pete Hartungue and L three and he managed

806
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: he manages Justin Moore. Go right, Um, Justin is on

807
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: George's label, and Pete had told George about me early on.

808
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: They didn't get too excited, man, really, Um, but George

809
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: did come out when we went out to cut five sides,

810
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: which Bloodline was was one of them, and then Proud

811
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: and Down the South, which we ended up releasing independently. Um,

812
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: when we went out to cut those at the Castle,

813
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: George ended up just popping up And I was like well,

814
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: who's that And he's like, oh, that's that's the head

815
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: of Valerie, and that's that's that's you know, that's that's

816
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: Justin's guy. And I was like, awesome, man. And uh

817
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: so Georgia ended up hainting out with the whole day.

818
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: And George has just kind of kept tabs on this

819
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: thing the whole time, you know, this whole time, he's

820
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: just always kind of been, you know, in the background. Um.

821
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: And then he got me a meeting with Borsheatow one

822
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: day and I had four songs total in my catalog. Man.

823
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: I played Borshetow three songs and he was like, well,

824
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: you got any more? And I was like, well I

825
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: got one more and he's like, well place your full catalog,

826
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: you know. But uh yeah, George has just always kind

827
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: of been there. Man. Did you get a publish your

828
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: deal first? Yeah? Yeah, at Sony I think they changed it.

829
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: They changed the name the other day to Sony Sony

830
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: Music Publishing or something. Um, so that's gonna be pretty cool.

831
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: At the pinion to write songs, hecky, you didn't write

832
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: a song until Oh no, dude, that's what's crazy. And

833
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: I told Pete, you know, man, I had you know,

834
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: being being established and having a life there in Arkansas

835
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: and having bills to pay and all that and not

836
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: being able to just jerk up and and move. Um,

837
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, I told Pete, you know, man, I'm I'm

838
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: not some spring chicken. You know, I need a paycheck

839
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: before I make that leap. And sure enough, man, we

840
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: get the We got the pub deal before I even

841
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: had an address in Tennessee, which is which is something something.

842
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: And to be said for Sony there, how crazy was

843
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: it to quit your job like a work to come

844
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: and do music? It was terrifying, dude, Yeah, it was terrifying. Yeah,

845
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: that took a lot of soul searching, man, it really did,

846
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: because that's you don't walk away from a job like

847
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: that in Arkansas because once you once you leave it,

848
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: you never get it back. You've got a hundred guys

849
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: behind you that are that are just just dedicating, just

850
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: just hard working, that that are waiting to take your position. Um,

851
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: so I knew that there was there was no return,

852
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: if I know, if I jumped in it was it

853
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: was both feet first and but also how exciting it

854
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: was amazing? Right? Yeah? So but did you write songs

855
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: to drive back and forth for a while. Did you

856
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,959
Speaker 1: come to Nashville in Arkansas? Yeah, a year and a half.

857
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: A year and a half. I would get up this

858
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: is my schedule. I'd get up on Sunday and I

859
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: drive was it about six and a half fires? Drive

860
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: six and a half fires to Nashville and I'd write Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

861
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: and typically Thursday morning, and then I would drive home

862
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: Thursday night and then we play show Friday and shows

863
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday, and then I drive back to nash

864
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: On on Sunday. Um. But it was just my buddy

865
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: Mark Allan Springer. He's from Wiener, Arkansas. And do you

866
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: know Mark? I know, well, yes, some New Jones Burro, um,

867
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: but Mark Mark wrote, Um, Mark wrote two Spars and

868
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: Hurricane Workcorn don't grow all that. And Mark kind of

869
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: took me under his wayne and um let me stay

870
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: at his place for for a while down in Summertown.

871
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: And so that that was a rough goal, man, I mean,

872
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: putting in all those hours and all that Winshield time

873
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: was it was, it was rough. But what was to move? Um?

874
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: I knew it had to be here. Man. You don't

875
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: make it, You don't make it. Nash without being here.

876
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: You just don't. I mean, you gotta be here because

877
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: when the you know, when the if you gotta if

878
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: you got a pub deal or you gotta you know,

879
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: you got a record deal man. When when it's just

880
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: like any other job, when they say they need something,

881
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: you gotta have it. You gotta be there. You gotta

882
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: do it. M big move man. Because you're right, you

883
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: weren't nineteen. Oh that's it, that's really all. You'd already

884
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: established what you had your life. Oh, I could already

885
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: see that. The I could already see the rest of

886
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: my life ahead of me. I really could just just

887
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: out there just growing old and watching the dogs and

888
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: the kids in the grass grow. Remember running into you?

889
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it was in Northwest Arkansas. Justin was playing at

890
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: the JJ's beer garden. So it went to Justin and

891
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: I went to razorback game that day and Justin Moore

892
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: and he was like Hey, He's like, hey, come on

893
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: out and sing a song with me. I'm gonna be

894
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: at Jjay's. And I was like, I was gonna go

895
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: home that night, but I love Justin. Justin been for

896
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: a long time, and I was like all right, as

897
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: what do you mean to say. He goes, well, what

898
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: do you know? And I was like, what if we

899
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: do dust on the bottle? He's like perfect. So I

900
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: go out and I ran into you there, and I

901
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: think you were going about to move up there. Yeah.

902
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: Actually I'll never forget that because I walked her out

903
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: by you and you go, hey, dude, you're just gonna

904
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: walk by me. The dude. But yeah, the dude that,

905
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: the dude that had a hand and change in your

906
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: laugh forever for this now got you a pub bill.

907
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: Don't even know you anymore. So when did the record

908
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: deal come about? Like the artist deal? Um, I think

909
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: it was. I think it was about this time last

910
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: year or a little a little more. What what what

911
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: inspired that from them? Like? What do you think they

912
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: saw in you? What are they telling you? Like, this

913
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: is why we're gonna sign you to an artist? Honestly, honestly,

914
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: it was another video. I hate to just put it

915
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: all off on that, but uh, you know, because we

916
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: were we were buggets, Scott, you know, we we wanted

917
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: we wanted to be with Valerie and uh, you know

918
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: we're bugging George and and uh we kind of gave

919
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: him some room to breathe. After a couple a couple

920
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 1: of meetings and uh, I ended up doing a show.

921
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: I don't remember where it was, but um it was.

922
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: It was that a place was there was some really

923
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: good acoustics and really cool environment, and that buddy just

924
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: set a cell phone up and record me and my

925
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: guitar player, Casey doing Faithfully, and that video went viral. Um.

926
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: I think in two days we had over a million

927
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: views on it. And so I screenshot it and in

928
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: it over to Pete, my manager, and he's forwarded onto George,

929
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: which it eventually ended up in Scott's hands, and Scot's like,

930
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: all right, that's that's enough. I've seen. I've seen enough.

931
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: Let's let's pull him in. I'm I'm sitting in Uh,

932
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm standing in my backyard actually with a post hole

933
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: digger in my hand, building the fence for my dogs

934
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: and phone rings and Peet's like, hey man, you gotta,

935
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: you gotta you're sitting down and I was like, no,

936
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: I need to and he's like, probably you just got

937
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: a record deal day, so damn it's awesome. Yeah. What's

938
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: funny too about Faithfully is that when you play the rhyman.

939
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: I was like he can play with the ryman. That's

940
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: what you did in the freaking crowd and melted. Yeah,

941
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: you killed that song. I gotta tell you that. Thanks

942
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: for having me there, because that's people when people ask

943
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: me the peak so far, that's the peak for me

944
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: so far. Yeah. That and and not only did I

945
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: play the rhyme? Did I standing ovation man? That that

946
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: I as about as out of body is I've ever came. Actually,

947
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: I'll never I'll never forget them stressing the point to

948
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: exit stage right. When we were done, exit stage right.

949
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: They told us like five times. And I was so

950
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: out of my mind from that crowd clapping for me

951
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: that accident stage left. I got shovel up by everybody

952
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: that was waiting to go on stage. Excuse me, excuse me,

953
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: excuse me, pardon me. I think you might be wrong,

954
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: but I think I've had you out twice because I

955
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: had you came in. You played at my little rock

956
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: theater show and then the rhyme and the only two times. Right, Um,

957
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: that's about right, Robin's Center, Yeah, no show, Yeah, that's it, right,

958
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: I guess. So my point is you're a hundred percent

959
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: of getting standing ovations because both crowds stood up. Oh yeah, dude,

960
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: oh wow, forget about that. Yeah, And I made the

961
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: joke before. I don't like to go after him. He

962
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: came to my three thousand seed Theater is my home crowd.

963
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: I was so pumped and they're like exhausted because he

964
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: just went on, that's awesome. Man. So you're you got

965
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: a place now, like you're here, this is home. Yeah.

966
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 1: I was talking about that with Todio folks today. Somebody

967
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: asked me today, like, what's what's been the greatest thing

968
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: about moving to Nashville. And the greatest thing about moving

969
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: to Nashville to me is man. You know, of course,

970
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: not to go too far into like how I was

971
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: raising stuff and you know the pennycost the world and

972
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: all that. But when you grow up like that, it

973
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: separates you. That's your whole goal in life is to

974
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: be separate from the world. And you tend to feel

975
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: like an outcast and you feel you never seem to

976
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: fit in or feel comfortable in your own skin. And uh,

977
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not real big on small talk and

978
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: I never have been. I'm really bad to you know,

979
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: to uh to meet someone and then dig too deep

980
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: too early or or as Christ able to sit on

981
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: your show one time, pull the curtain back too far,

982
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: I think, um, right off the bat. And now that

983
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 1: I've come to Nashville and I've got to be around

984
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: songwriters and this industry, I think it all makes sense. Man.

985
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: I think I've always I didn't know it, but I

986
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: think I've always kind of seen the world through the

987
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: eyes of a songwriter, and uh they I think we

988
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: tend to overland over analyze things and and to really

989
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: look deeper into into the heart and into things. And uh,

990
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: it's it's oddly enough, man, moving from those dark mountains

991
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: to Nashville. I feel at home here. Man. It's weird.

992
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: You ever be out of work and have a great

993
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: song idea back in the day and then you just

994
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: held onto it or did all kind of stuck o

995
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: kind I sucked. I think I've always had I think

996
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: I've always had indecent ideas passed by my passed by

997
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: my you know, passed by me to grab out this guy.

998
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: But you know, I didn't have the knowledge back then

999
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: to write it down. And have you done any lessons

1000
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: to learn how to not wear your voice out? No?

1001
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: I actually, uh, I actually just started established my my

1002
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: relationship with the folks of Vanderbilt. Um, I actually go

1003
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: for my second appointment in in a couple of days

1004
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: for them to start just just teaching me. I mean,

1005
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: because that is my money, that's that's my that's my tool.

1006
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: It's not And if there's no shame because you're not

1007
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: going to hey, don't teach, You're not having to be

1008
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: tired of sing. It's like teach, we had to sing

1009
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: so I can sing for thirty years efficiently. Yes, Um,

1010
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: that's just it, man. And I'm still at the point

1011
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: in my career were Um, I'm still doing two our

1012
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: shows a lot of times to two and a half

1013
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: hour shows. And you know, most of your most of

1014
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: your big acts and your openers don't have to sing

1015
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: that long. Um. And so it's men. You do two

1016
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: of those shows a weekend. It's rough on you, man,

1017
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: especially you know the way I sang in my style

1018
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: of saying, which has changed substantially. I've I've learned to

1019
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: relax and not pushed so hard and all that, But um,

1020
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: I definitely still need to help. I think I'll always

1021
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: need to help you. Is it true that you don't

1022
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: follow razorback football anymore? Man, I don't. I don't dude,

1023
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: growing up like I did him out here, So where's

1024
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: the door? Sir? Um Man, I tell you, growing up

1025
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: like I did and not having sports in my life,

1026
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: you know it just I was. My heroes were Fred Bear,

1027
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: you know, the bow hunters and um you know guys

1028
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: like that that were that really that really stood out

1029
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: to me. Chuck Adams was another great bow hunter back

1030
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. Was like Bill Dance. Yeah. Yeah,

1031
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: well build answers a fisherman? You know, yeah, say did

1032
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: you have fisherman heroes too? Not necessarily, it was more

1033
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: so because because back back then you had VH. My

1034
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: uncle had a VHS uh like cabinet. He didn't know

1035
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: I knew Bill Dancers. I'm sorry, brother, and I'm sorry.

1036
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: I know where do you think I grew up? What's

1037
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: wrong with you? No? Man? Bill Dance a Fisherman? Yeah.

1038
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: I was making the point of was it just hunters

1039
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: or did you also have Sorry, we watched Bill Dance

1040
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: every Sunday. You moved so fast, I'll just try to

1041
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: keep up all the day. Go ahead. I was trying

1042
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: to keep up. So your your heroes because sports, sports

1043
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: wasn't brought into your life, were people that were great

1044
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: at things that were brought into your life. That's interesting.

1045
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: I never you and your dad. You dad still alive,

1046
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: You're still close? Not okay, So I never had a

1047
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: dad right ever, and I had. I pursued sports because

1048
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: other men liked sports, and I felt like that gave

1049
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: me something to talk to them about and something to

1050
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: bond over since when I had nobody to go. Because later,

1051
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: hunting and fishing was very much a step dad thing

1052
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: with me, who was like, that's all we did, right,

1053
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: It was all I mean, depending on what season it was,

1054
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: depending on if we were in a blind, if we

1055
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: were in a tree stand, if we But for me,

1056
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: I went after sports because I was just looking for

1057
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: some sort of mail connection. You're right to man, because

1058
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: like I'm sitting here the other day, and and Adam

1059
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: Hambrigs here in Stales here and you guys are all

1060
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: talking sports and I'm just kind of and and the

1061
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: thing is, man, I love to watch football, like I

1062
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: love college ball. I don't really watch the NFL, but

1063
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: I love to watch college football. But I just I don't.

1064
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't put force the brain power to keep up

1065
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: with them all. Well, and you never had to write

1066
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: it's not ingrained in you at this point. Could trust me,

1067
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: if I could at times not be a fan, I

1068
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't because it sucks. Man's that second half, dude. But

1069
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: it's heartbreaking, you know, because you know, I lived in

1070
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: Florida for a while and I was never Yeah, I

1071
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: lived in Florida for a couple of years in my twenties,

1072
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: and I was never as rabid a razorback fan as

1073
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: I was when I moved to Florida and got surrounded

1074
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: by Gator fans. I had to be. And also, it's

1075
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: just home, right, like, that's that's from and that's all

1076
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: we got, man, that that's it. Man. I have so

1077
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: much pride where I'm from. I thought it too, man,

1078
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: And I think that's man. I think that that Arkansas

1079
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: kind of a little Texas in that way. They were

1080
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: very proud of where we're from, especially if you're you know,

1081
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: if you're from those little small towns, dude, there's that

1082
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: place is special, dude. I mean I walk I step

1083
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: into those art mountains, but and I'm on holy ground.

1084
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 1: That place means something to me. That's been the hardest

1085
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: part of the whole move is realizing how attached I

1086
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: was to that geography there in that land. So you're

1087
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: you're about to go to for radio ads, dude, march yates,

1088
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: we're recording this on a Monday, right, so a week

1089
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: from today Old school was in goes to radio. It's

1090
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: been out for a bit. But then there's a concentrated

1091
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: effort by your team. They only listen to team only

1092
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: has so many so much time, and so many resources,

1093
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: but they're gonna use their time and resources to try

1094
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: to make this song a hit. So what is that?

1095
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: This is the next step in your overall journey, Like

1096
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: you're freaking having a song go to radio by real

1097
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: life label. No, man, it's nuts. And I got a

1098
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: team that do their beasts. I mean they are They're crazy.

1099
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, I get I'll wake up the emails

1100
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: and I have emails coming in after i'd go to sleep.

1101
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: Do you feel the support? Yeah? Yeah, I feel so.

1102
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: Because here's the deal, man, and this is this is

1103
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 1: just me being honest, dude. I think when they signed

1104
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: me it was more like a single deal. Let's let's

1105
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: cut a single, see how it does, and then we

1106
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: decide whether we want to keep it or not. And

1107
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: I think as we progressed and I got to do

1108
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: in some some live performances in front of the staff

1109
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: and stuff. You know, they ship me off to Cancoon

1110
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: like two weeks after they after they signed us to

1111
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: do the year and you would know what to do

1112
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: the year and deal for Big Machine. You know, they

1113
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: have a big left. Yeah, it was really cool. Man.

1114
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: I've never been on the country obviously, and uh, I

1115
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: got to go down there and do that. And I

1116
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: remember when it all happened. Man, it was really cool

1117
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 1: because I got up there and I sang old schools

1118
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: in and then I sang them common ground um and

1119
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: gotta standing old from them. And at the end of that,

1120
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: I walked down and George walked over to me and

1121
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, man, Scott wants to talk to you.

1122
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: And so Scott pulled me over the side and he's like, listen,

1123
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna cut We're gonna cut four and

1124
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you any producer you want. We're gonna

1125
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: do anything. You're fixing the priority And it all changed

1126
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: right there, boom, just like that. And so now I

1127
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: feel like I am a priority there and they are

1128
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: really stepping up, stepping out, and working their butts off.

1129
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: For me, here is a common ground from the common

1130
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: ground DP. We're all we're all strong, we're all right,

1131
00:54:49,600 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: we're all wrong, we all in common ground. Good one man,

1132
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: Thank you sir. You wrote that, you wrote all four

1133
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: of you. So that's that man, Yeah, calm ground? Was

1134
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: that one that you stepped back from? Though? And you're like,

1135
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 1: I can't believe I helped draft that. I can't believe.

1136
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: Here is I can't undo? I do gain all the world?

1137
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: Do you sit that? You never? Man? He's such fun.

1138
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: Look at your bull. You're done, have done it again.

1139
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: It's damn good bad. You won't gonna turn this truckle around.

1140
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: You don't stay tr but we both know the truth.

1141
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:45,479
Speaker 1: You can't. Here is one more. This is love needs

1142
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 1: making for his knees tick. Just like all the time

1143
00:55:52,160 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: it's Wan sick, it's look knees making an So I

1144
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: pulled up a post here February for February eleven. This

1145
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: is by you, y'all. Exclamation exclamation, exclamation, exclamation. I just

1146
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: got off the phone with Morrigan, the producer of the

1147
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: Bobby Bone Show. I'm freaking out. Tune in tomorrow morning

1148
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: at am kissing ninety six. If you're in arkansas'll be

1149
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: speaking with Bobby. So maybe I talked to you on

1150
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: the phone the next day and then I was like,

1151
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: get here by Friday. That starts to see him, right, Huh, Yeah,

1152
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: that was it. Listen, man, I couldn't be prouder, not

1153
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: of you before you like you are. You know what

1154
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: people call the American dream, and you're just right in

1155
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: the middle of it. Yeah, if you ten years and

1156
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: you if you're living a life that you feel like, man,

1157
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: I feel good. I don't care if you're rich or not,

1158
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: but it's like I feel good with what I've accomplished.

1159
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: That's the American dream to come from wherever and go wherever, up, down, left, right.

1160
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: But you get to make that call and you're living

1161
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: it and you're in the middle of it, and I'm

1162
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: just so proud to see someone like you because you're

1163
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: You're everybody I grew up around. I know, have you

1164
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: ever been to a barbecue? You've met me, you know

1165
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 1: what it's like, and you know it's like me too.

1166
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: When I go back home, I'm like, hey, you guys

1167
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want. If I can get out

1168
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: of here because I chose to, or if you want

1169
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: to stay here and you choose to, you can do

1170
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: whatever you want as long as you make that decision

1171
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: to pursue it. It may not be tomorrow. Something may

1172
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: come to you five years and you have to make

1173
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: a tough decision. You gotta make a tough decision. Like

1174
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm proud that you made decisions. I'm proud that you're

1175
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: starting to feel like people care about you in this industry.

1176
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm proud that they're giving you a shot there, paying

1177
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: bills for you. It's just it's just working out. Man.

1178
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: I'll just appreciate you giving me a chance. Bobbly, I

1179
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: really day, that's all I gave it, right, I said,

1180
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: I just said, people open a little cracks for me,

1181
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: and then I kicked a hole in the wall once

1182
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: I had a crack. And that's what you're doing. Yeah,

1183
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: I think it was. I was talking to somebody here

1184
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: while back about about my story and how it's how

1185
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: it's more than anything, it's really a story preparation, you know,

1186
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: and so so you're ready, Just be ready. You know,

1187
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: you may not be able to create create the opportunities

1188
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,959
Speaker 1: that you you need, but somebody else may be able

1189
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: to and you may not be able to dictate the

1190
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: time that it happens. Just be ready to do it, man.

1191
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: And that's that's really what this this whole thing has

1192
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: just been a series of small challenges and hills and

1193
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: and getting over stage fright and nerves and you know,

1194
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: swallowing the fear and dealing with it and and now

1195
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: we're here, you know. But and that's really all it's

1196
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: been is they they open the doors and I walk

1197
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: through a man. But you just gotta be ready to

1198
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: deliver when the time comes, and you gotta say yes,

1199
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: you got to, man, because you won't get questions anymore,

1200
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: you won't get asked anymore. Even if you don't feel

1201
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: like you can do it, say yes, I figure it out.

1202
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. I mean the last thing I

1203
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: always said this man, even before I had the opportunity

1204
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: to do this. I mean, it's I've never want, I

1205
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: just want. I just my biggest fear in life is

1206
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: sitting on my front porch when I'm a dy thinking well,

1207
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: what if you know, what if I my debt decision

1208
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: and decided to give that a shot and took that risk.

1209
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: You know, that's That's really what it is for me. Man,

1210
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: I just want to be proud of that. When I'm

1211
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: when I'm sitting on the porch, we don't speak, you know,

1212
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: I tell you I believe in you. Well, thanks, Bob.

1213
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: I do Heat Sanders Music, follow him on Instagram Heat

1214
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: Sanders Music, and hopefully get to know him now because

1215
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: he'll walk right by you and forget who you are.

1216
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: That's like that. I was like, dude, turn turn around.

1217
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm right, what's happening. I'll tell you what when I

1218
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: get this. When I get this, these lockdowns lifted this

1219
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: pandemic under control. I ain't walking by a soul, dude,

1220
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm hugging. I'm hugging every person that gets in arms

1221
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: linked to me. Oh man, I'm proud. I'm proud and proud.

1222
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: All right, we spent an hour here. I'm just probably

1223
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: the longest interview've ever done. Yeah, probably, I mean, have

1224
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: you done an hour interview with anybody? Straight up things?

1225
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: So it's tough. You really got to be with the

1226
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: pro you know, you really do know, you really got

1227
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: to be with the Like, what's it like to be

1228
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: on Bobby? It's like, I don't know. I just take

1229
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: his hand and just kind of follow wherever it goes.

1230
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: All right, you guys should get Calming Ground the EP. Uh,

1231
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: it's got four songs on it. We played all four

1232
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: of them here, you guys, if you if you hear

1233
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: this months later, this is our podcast too. Uh. He'll

1234
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: be out touring. Go see him. If he's in town

1235
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: opening for somebody or doing a club show or um.

1236
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: Just go see him. You will be impressed for sure.

1237
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: All right. There he is at Heath Sanders Music, Heath Sanders.

1238
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: Everybody