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Speaker 1: Now welcome to Lake kick Is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, July fourteenth, year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The truth just two words there.

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Speaker 2: Everyone thinks they want it until they get it, and

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Speaker 2: then some people don't really enjoy that truth.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna share a healthy amount of it tonight.

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Speaker 2: We are jam packed high top sort of a sunsetti

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Speaker 2: at this point, downtown Nashville, Tennessee. Really nice day here.

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Speaker 2: Who can win a national championship this year? One of

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Speaker 2: the hard truths that you and I are going to

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Speaker 2: have to face together tonight. We're also going to talk

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Speaker 2: about some comments Nick Saban said. I've seen that there

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Speaker 2: are some clips of a recent interview Saban did floating

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Speaker 2: around out there. I've seen some takes back and forth.

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Speaker 2: There were some of the most insightful and in many

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Speaker 2: cases just flat out interesting things Saban had to say

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Speaker 2: in that very interview that no one's talking about, which

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Speaker 2: shocks me. But hey, we'll take it if no one

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Speaker 2: else wants it. A Bold Predictions Chapter empty four tonight.

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Speaker 2: We're well on our way to thirty at this point.

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Speaker 2: And hey, let me ask you a question. It's rhetorical.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to it towards the end of the show,

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Speaker 2: where's all the Georgia hype? Did I see things? Did

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Speaker 2: they not just win a national championship in Indianapolis? I

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Speaker 2: thought growing up little JP, growing up in Georgia, I thought,

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Speaker 2: if and when they finally win one, the hype machine

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Speaker 2: the subsequent spring in summer and then leading up to

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Speaker 2: the season will be unlike anything we've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: It's like crickets.

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Speaker 2: No one's talking about them. Well, I think I got

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Speaker 2: a few reasons why. Boy, Kirby Smart's gotta love it.

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Speaker 2: They're watching us in San Clemente, California, Maryville, Tennessee. Turned

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Speaker 2: in Carmel, Indiana. Is that not where Sage Steel is from.

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Speaker 2: I think it is Carmel, Indiana tuned in. We're a

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Speaker 2: big fan of Carmel, if so, and you know what,

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Speaker 2: we're probably just big fans.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow, the Late Kickstore is open. And I know the

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Speaker 2: other night I did not tell you guys a time.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you now either. Just refresh

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Speaker 2: your phone every five minutes. Tomorrow we're opening that thing tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We got late Kick gear in there, We've got Pate

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Speaker 2: State gear in there. We've got some things that I

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Speaker 2: never even thought we could.

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Speaker 1: Make in there. It's going to be really fun. One

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Speaker 1: word of warning.

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Speaker 2: You haven't seen me plaster advertisement about this everywhere because

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Speaker 2: I'm fairly confident we're just going to sell out of everything.

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Speaker 2: So I want our hardcores to get the first shot

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Speaker 2: at it, and so I'm kind of telling you on

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Speaker 2: the show. Yeah, but I'm not making a huge, huge,

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Speaker 2: huge deal about it. I'm just letting you know that

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Speaker 2: things open tomorrow. Grab what you can while you can.

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Speaker 2: Some of that stuff's going to be gone, and some

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Speaker 2: of it will never be back. So we're certainly going

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Speaker 2: to keep those shelves stocked and we're going to add

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Speaker 2: new products. What you see tomorrow is only at the

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Speaker 2: very beginning of that. But get it while you can.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to infuse scarcity into the equation. I'm

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Speaker 2: quite literally telling you, supply chain bites us like everyone else,

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Speaker 2: scarcity is a part of this thing.

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Speaker 1: Get it while you can. It'll open tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Also, towards the end of this show, I've got a

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Speaker 2: favor I need to ask you.

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Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with the store or anything like.

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Speaker 2: That, but I got a favor to ask you one

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Speaker 2: of those things we do about two or three times

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Speaker 2: a year. I'll need some help on something, so stay

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Speaker 2: tuned towards the end. We're going to be live in

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Speaker 2: Atlanta all next week for SEC media days. Confirm that today, Monday, Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: and Wednesday Thursday night. I'll be down there at the

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna be at the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: so you know, don't harass this. But if you want

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Speaker 2: to come by and see us, that's fine. Have plenty

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Speaker 2: of white teas available for everyone. So we will be

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Speaker 2: live Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. I'll get you a start time.

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Speaker 2: Just stay tuned on that one. Follow on social at

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Speaker 2: late kick Josh. That's enough of that, let's dive into

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Speaker 2: the show tonight. I love this time of year for

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Speaker 2: several reasons. Number one because I can look at the

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Speaker 1: We get real practice reports. All that's great. Do you

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Speaker 2: We really find out who can win a championship because

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Speaker 1: What does history say?

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Speaker 2: What does the history of college football tell us is

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Speaker 2: necessary to win a national championship? That's the truth that

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Speaker 1: Enter Budrick Elliott because it tunes. It turns out it's

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Speaker 1: really not all that difficult to figure this out.

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Speaker 2: Bud, I call him Budgrick, you can call them whatever

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: It's really that simple, believe it or not. And this

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Speaker 2: Bud does it every year, and so I'm interested in

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Speaker 2: But as for now, as for this moment, we're still

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Speaker 2: talking about just classical high school recruits. I'm thinking about

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Speaker 1: No longer would those.

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Speaker 2: Well, one of many reasons why I'm not particularly fond

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Speaker 2: They don't have the is to compete with an Alabama

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Speaker 2: from completely different points historically, they're working from completely different points.

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Speaker 2: So that's the first thing I took away is even

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Speaker 2: we'll say, you guys, get to the playoff, that's about

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Speaker 2: good now and they're so loaded. You know that yours

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Speaker 2: truly here doesn't believe that. But let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: There are two arguments here. As I said, Bud wrote

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Speaker 2: in this article, it used to be rare that you

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Speaker 2: Even for Alabama it was rare, and it was hard

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Speaker 2: and a lot of people rang with that. This guy

440
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 2: who's been on top of the college football world is

441
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 2: complaining about competitive balance. This is college football, man. You

442
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 2: come to college football to have total control of your roster.

443
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 2: You come here because you've got a bigger recruiting budget,

444
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 2: you come here because you've got a bigger support staff

445
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,160
Speaker 2: that's the size of the art armies of small countries

446
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,919
Speaker 2: out there. You come here specifically because there's not competitive balance.

447
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 1: Did you hear that this week? Did you maybe say

448
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: that this week?

449
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you you're not entitled to your opinion.

450
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I went and listened to this whole thing,

451
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 2: and I listened to the context in.

452
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 1: Which he was speaking. I'm not so sure I disagreed

453
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 1: with any of it.

454
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Speaker 2: He was talking about comps to the NFL, and specifically

455
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 2: he compared the NFL to college football, which normally we're

456
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,360
Speaker 2: against on this show. But he compared it in two

457
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 2: very appropriate avenues. The first one was in nil and

458
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 2: roster management. He talked about that competitive balance thing. Now,

459
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 2: I haven't heard every interview Nick Saban's done over the

460
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,719
Speaker 2: past two years. I've heard most of them, I think

461
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,679
Speaker 2: because they normally make national news.

462
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Speaker 1: We may have one on this show next week.

463
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Speaker 2: But in this particular interview with Greg Nickleroy, what he

464
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: said was, it's going to hurt competitive balance if we

465
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 2: don't have rules that everyone has to go by.

466
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Speaker 1: So, in other words, guardrails if you want to call

467
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 1: him that.

468
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 2: And I know even the pushback on that sometimes from

469
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: hardcore college football fans is Alabama doesn't play by the

470
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 2: same rules. Ohio State don't play by the same rules.

471
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: They have really really big advantages. And that's true, that's true.

472
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 2: Where do the advantages come from?

473
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: Though?

474
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: Do they get to sign thirty five players whereas you

475
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 2: only get to sign twenty five. Do they get to

476
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: have one hundred and thirteen on scholarship whereas you can

477
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 2: only have eighty five. No, the disproportionate advantage at the

478
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 2: college level really just comes from investment. But it comes

479
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 2: from the kind of investment that everyone has the opportunity

480
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 2: to do. Is kind of what he's saying. So, in

481
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 2: other words, if I'm a Florida State Seminole fan and

482
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Ohio State or I'm looking at Clemson

483
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 2: and they're spending more than.

484
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Speaker 1: Me, what stops us from doing it. What stops our

485
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 1: people from doing it?

486
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: What stops our administration from investing on the things and

487
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 2: in the things they invest in?

488
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: Technically nothing.

489
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 2: What stops Florida State football from having as big a

490
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 2: support staff? Technically nothing. It's just that there's someone sitting

491
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: in a room somewhere. I'm not picking on FSU. I'm

492
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 2: just picking. Let's say Peate State's life like that, I'll

493
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: take them. I'll take the fire.

494
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: Here at Pate State.

495
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 2: If we've got a fraction of the off field support

496
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 2: staff that Nick Saban does, it's because there's someone in

497
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: some room at Pate State getting paid ninety grand a

498
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: year in federal money to say, Nope, we're not about that.

499
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: We're not doing that the way they do it in Tuscaloosa.

500
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: Which is cool, that's your right, but you had the opportunity.

501
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: What Nick Saban's talking about is there were quite literally

502
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: states where teams they're competing against were allowed to do

503
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: things they couldn't do last year. I'm pretty sure that

504
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 2: when we get to a place, which we will in time,

505
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 2: where all of the nil rules are equal no matter

506
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: what state you live in, I'm going to throw a

507
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,719
Speaker 2: wild guess out here. I think Nick Saban and Alabama

508
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: are going to be fine, just fine in terms of

509
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: talent acquisition.

510
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be a problem for them.

511
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 2: But he is right in the meantime and saying it's

512
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: ludicrous to essentially enter an era of free agency but

513
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: not have any guardrails on how you sign players. And

514
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 2: then you can go ahead and talk about the transfer

515
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: portal too, if you want to. I don't think he

516
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 2: really singled it out so much. Are you free to

517
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: move anytime you want to? Are you free to do

518
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: things over here that you can't do over there. I

519
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: don't know many people who disagree with the simple notion

520
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: that everyone should be playing by the same rules. I

521
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: don't know many people who disagree with that. I know

522
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: what your follow ups are, I know what the comment

523
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 2: section is going to say, but we do have to

524
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 2: move on in the interest of time. I want to

525
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: go back to that quote though you know he was

526
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 2: talking about I don't want you to pull it backup, Colin,

527
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: but I'm saying he was talking about competitive balance and everything,

528
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: and I just I know, like I just said, I

529
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 2: know what the comments are going to say. It s

530
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 2: as sure as I'm sitting here, my eye, Josh, when

531
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 2: I get off there, it already goes yes. So when

532
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: I get off air, and when I look at this

533
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: comment section, a lot of you are going to say

534
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: he is worried about the future and the stranglehold he's

535
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 2: had on the sport's He's I'm not intimidated, but threatened,

536
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: I guess is the proper word that a lot of

537
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 2: people feel Sabans expressing. He's expressing the emotion that you

538
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 2: expressed when you're threatened that something you've had, the control

539
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 2: you've had, is slipping away. I suppose that's possible, but

540
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: you know what, there are also other things that are possible.

541
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: So I just want to ask you a simple question

542
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: that we can't answer tonight. This one's going to have

543
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: to sit with you for a little while. Are you

544
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: falling for that again? Are you really falling for changes

545
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: in this sport convincing you that that guy hoisting one

546
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: of like I don't know, half a dozen or more

547
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: crystal footballs he's won at this point, that that guy

548
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: is about to be threatened into retirement or into obscurity,

549
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: or at the very least he's going to be knocked

550
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: off his podium and someone else will take over as

551
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 2: the supreme ruler, the supreme ruling program of college football.

552
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: Are you allowing yourself to be fooled by this again?

553
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: Because it happened several times now over the last decade,

554
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 2: and some of you fell victim to it, and some

555
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: of you didn't.

556
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: Some of you were smart enough to avoid it.

557
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: But I'm not even just talking about you, as in

558
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,120
Speaker 2: those of us who happened to be tuned into the

559
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: show tonight. There's some big voices out there that got

560
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: big time fooled on this stuff. Remember that sport that

561
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: was passing Nick saban By. I'm not even talking about

562
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 2: one instance. You can fill in the blank like three

563
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 2: or four different times people have said that, and that

564
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: guy's adjusted every time. This stuff's gonna calibrate, the way

565
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: that nil works, the way the transfer portal works, it's

566
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: gonna calibrate. You know, right now, it's like you just

567
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: walked into a room and the music's blaring and your

568
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: senses haven't adjusted. Eventually, the senses of college football are

569
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: going to adjust, and eventually the ones who do it

570
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: best are gonna do that best, and eventually you're gonna

571
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: watch whatever changes he has to make, get made, and

572
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: they'll be what they always have been. What he has

573
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: said in the past is in the aggregate, you're going

574
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 2: to lose something you like about the sport. I think

575
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: the much higher percentage chance of something happening in the

576
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: future is Bama still being Bama as long as he's there.

577
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: But in the aggregate, you looking around four or five

578
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: years from now and saying, you know, they even ended

579
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: up being right about this, We did lose this or

580
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: this or that that I loved. That's probably where we're headed.

581
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: Nick Saban's going to be fine. Bama's going to be fine.

582
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 2: But the one thing that he talked about that I

583
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: can't believe more people failed to pick up on is

584
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: he talked about scheduling. That Alabama head coach there talked

585
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 2: about scheduling, and you know what he told Greg McElroy.

586
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: He said, what worries me most also is we're playing

587
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: three or four games a year at Bama no one

588
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 2: cares about. I've never heard him be that brutally honest

589
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: and upfront about this stuff. He said, we got games

590
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: being played no one cares about. I don't like him,

591
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 2: our fans don't like him we got to do something

592
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: about scheduling, and he said, I've advocated to go to

593
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: nine conference games a year. He said, I wanted to

594
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: go to ten conference games a year. And then he

595
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: harkened back just a couple of years. He said, we

596
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: played ten of them in twenty twenty. We played all

597
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: conference games in that COVID year. And of course, of

598
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: course the guy who had undefeated and won the title

599
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 2: that year happened to love it. But I think they

600
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: would love it. I think guys like him, He's not alone.

601
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: There are competitors out there who do not enjoy being

602
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: favored by forty eight. So I think one of the

603
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: logical follow ups says, Okay, well, why don't you stop

604
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: scheduling Austin p there the second to last week of

605
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 2: the year. Why don't you go schedule more big time

606
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: out of conference games, home, road, whatever. Why don't you

607
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: go schedule more of those? Why are you advocating for

608
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: nine or ten conference games when you could just go

609
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: play out of conference games of the same caliber. Well,

610
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: because that's dumb, that's why. Why would you voluntarily put

611
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: yourself at.

612
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: A strength of schedule disadvantage?

613
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: Like I'm asking Arkansas Why do they do that right now?

614
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: Why are you voluntarily playing Cincinnati? Why are you going

615
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: to provo Utah? Why are you doing that when you

616
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: already know what you've got to play.

617
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: No, if your.

618
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 2: Conference passes a uniform scheduling format or overhaul where you

619
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: know everybody you compete against has to play the same

620
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: caliber schedule, then I'd be on board with it. I

621
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: wouldn't do anything different than Saban's done.

622
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do anything different than Kirby smart Man.

623
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: I would schedule one pretty good out of conference game

624
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: that's either in my stadium or at a neutral site

625
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: close to my backyard, and then I'd play my conference late.

626
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not going to schedule up if

627
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 2: the rest of y'all aren't. No, But what you can

628
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: advocate for, and what Saban talked about is I'd love

629
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: to just go play ten SEC games every year, get

630
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 2: us one mar Que out of conference opponent, get us

631
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 2: probably one G five level opponent, call it a day.

632
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: Twelve games there.

633
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: That was the second aspect of the NFL scheduling model

634
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: he talked about.

635
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: Said, in the NFL, they just.

636
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: Love it if everyone goes eight and eight every year

637
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: because they're putting a competitive product on the field every Sunday.

638
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: And that kind of dufftailed into him.

639
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: Talking about how we got games that nobody cares about, Like,

640
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: how are we going to sustain this long term? How

641
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: do you keep people interested in long term if you're

642
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: playing those kinds of games. So when we're expanding conferences,

643
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: why don't we expand the quality of schedule as well?

644
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: That to me was what people should have run with.

645
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: That's going to give you a lot more help the

646
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: inventory out there every Saturday, and that's something I think

647
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: pretty much one hundred percent of us agree on. Yeah,

648
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: that Nick sab An interview with something I would advise

649
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: you to go listen to it. I just didn't take

650
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: from it what a lot of other folks took from it.

651
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: I'll tell you when I listened to that guy and

652
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: truly think he feels threatened.

653
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: I don't think he feels threatened right now.

654
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: I think he's aggravated, as are a lot of people,

655
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: because we literally day to day don't even know what

656
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: rules were going by. I mean, I can't get mad

657
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: at him if I'd feel the same way he did.

658
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Speaker 2: So they're watching us in Lumberton, North Carolina tonight. But

659
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: they're not alone. They're watching us in Norman, Oklahoma and Montgomery,

660
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: Alabama tuned in. Bold Predictions is something that if you're

661
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: new around here and judging by our numbers, a lot

662
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: of you are. We're on chapter twenty four of Jesse Colin.

663
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: I guess it was like two months ago, maybe more.

664
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: I put out a tweet. I said, if you had

665
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: to bet your own money on a Bold prediction, what

666
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: would you bet your money on? We were supposed to

667
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: do a segment on it that night, that was going

668
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Speaker 2: to be it. And here we are all this time later.

669
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Speaker 2: Well on our way to thirty Colin, here's your good

670
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: endpoint here, Bold Predictions, chapter twenty four tonight. What do

671
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: you believe so steadfastli that you would bet your own

672
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: money on? Well, we got one here now. Jesse wanted

673
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: to make this one. I think a nine point five

674
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: on the boldness scale. I went nine in a quarter.

675
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: Nathan first up with the prediction. He said, Georgie's defense

676
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: going to be better statistically than last year. After the

677
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: regular season, last year's defense was basically impenetrable. Only one

678
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: team in the country scored more than seventeen on him

679
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: and that was Bama in the SEC title game. This

680
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: is not gonna happen, So this is not realistic. This

681
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: is a nine point twenty five on the Boldness scale,

682
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: and the only reason I didn't make it a ten

683
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: is because that's how much I respect Kirby Smart. Georgia

684
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: last year number one in points per game. Also, how

685
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: about this, We've never had a stat from five to

686
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Speaker 2: thirty eight, but Jesse producer Jesse Stats and Info brings

687
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Speaker 2: me my research packet. According to five thirty eight, Georgia

688
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: had the second highest defensive efficiency rating for a title

689
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: team since two thousand and five.

690
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: So that's pretty good.

691
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: But more readily available in your memory is watching them

692
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: lose five guys on defense to the first round of

693
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: the draft, and that doesn't include Nakobe Dean, and that

694
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: doesn't include some more guys who went, and that doesn't

695
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: include transfer portal departures like Kimber and Brini.

696
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: And so I say all that.

697
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: To say this Georgia team can fall short of last

698
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: year and still be the best defense in the country.

699
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: I think they will fall short of last year. And

700
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: that's also why, Hey, I think offense could be as

701
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: much the core identity of Georgia football this year as

702
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: it has been under Kirby Smart so far. That mean

703
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: we're going to be watching, you know, like vintage Big

704
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: twelve pinball offense. But I do think that there'll be

705
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: a little more explicivity. I think also we're going to

706
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: talk about this later in the show. Kirby Smart's got

707
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 2: exactly what he wants there this year. Next up, what

708
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: do they have in Madison? At No Director Colin hit

709
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: us up and he loved the profile picture. By the way,

710
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: he said, Wisconsin goes eleven to one this year and

711
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: becomes the first Big Ten East school to win the

712
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: conference title since twenty twelve. Yes, it hasn't happened up there.

713
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: This is an eight point five. You know what, I'm

714
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: changing my mind. I'm gonna make this a nine. This

715
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: is unlikely, not impossible, but very unlikely. My initial thought,

716
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: and maybe your initial thought when you hear someone predict

717
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: Wisconsin's gonna win the Big Ten is, oh, they could

718
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: do that.

719
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: Wisconsin's good. And that's true. They can do it because

720
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: they are good.

721
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: Problem is, it takes more than good to win the

722
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: Big Ten championship. It takes being either really good or great,

723
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: especially with a team like Ohio State.

724
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: Presumably in the way. Now.

725
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: We thought that last year and they weren't even in

726
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: the Big Ten title game. But they weren't because someone

727
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 2: better than them beat them. So it stands to reason

728
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna face a buzzsaw one way or the other,

729
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: cause you're gonna face a playoff bound team in the

730
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: Big Ten championship game. Wisconsin conference schedule this year. They

731
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: go on the road to Ohio State, they play them

732
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: in the regular season. They go on the road to

733
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: Michigan State, at Iowa, at Nebraska. They end the season

734
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: at home against Minnesota. Graham Mertz last year at quarterback

735
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: more interceptions than touchdowns. I'm trying to find the inspiration

736
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: because I happen to be favorable in feelings towards Wisconsin.

737
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: Bought into them a time or two over the past

738
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: couple of years. Really haven't gotten a return on my

739
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: emotional investment. There's only one top twenty five recruiting class

740
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 2: baked into their past five cycles. That's not the end

741
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: all be all at Wisconsin. They're very much a developmental program.

742
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: They absolutely are comfortable in what their identity is.

743
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: That's why.

744
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: I think they can make it to Indianapolis winning once

745
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: you get there, whole different ballgame. Their over under win

746
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: total is nine this year, but they're odds to win

747
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: the Big Ten Championship are at plus one thousand, So

748
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: I make that a nine on the boldness scale. I

749
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: think this one's pretty bold. I think our next one's

750
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: pretty bold. At Gator, Fellow said, UCLA will be one

751
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: of two teams in the PAC twelve Conference championship game,

752
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: and US will not be the other one, So we

753
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: need the Bruins to make it at the conference title game.

754
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: They don't face USC.

755
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: Should be noted here that even though they're in the

756
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: same division, quote unquote, PAC twelve change their rules, so

757
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: they're just taking the top two teams for the title game.

758
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: So yes, both of those Los Angeles schools could face

759
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: each other, but our man here says it's not going

760
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: to happen. So I made this an eight point twenty five.

761
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: We're going by quarters now eight point twenty five. UCLA

762
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: is in a pretty sneaky good position here. You're looking

763
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: at the odds to win the Pac twelve. If you're

764
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: watching on YouTube, they are fourth overall at plus seven

765
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: fifty Oregon Utah USC are three to two one. They

766
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: were eight and four last year. Were the UCLA bruins.

767
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: They they've been so so recruiting, but they did have

768
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: the number nine portal class, so they made some good

769
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: transfer portal additions. This is the opportune moment though, more

770
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 2: so than any of the stats I can give you,

771
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: just think about the overall nature of the PAC twelve.

772
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,240
Speaker 2: You've got well, you got roster churn and coaching st

773
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: turn across town at USC you've got the same thing

774
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 2: up the road to good ways, really good ways in Eugene, Oregon.

775
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: Further up the road, you got that at Washington. So yeah,

776
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: Utah's there. Utah's got to come to your building. You

777
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: don't have to go to Salt Lake. So if UCLA

778
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: is going to get it done, I think this would

779
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: be the year. Also the good news for them, listen

780
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: to this Bowling Green Alabama, State, South Alabama at Colorado.

781
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: Those are their first four games. What more could you want?

782
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: And they've got a pretty I mean, they got really

783
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: good veteran pieces at important offensive positions i e.

784
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: Quarterback, running back, et cetera.

785
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: So they're going to be tuned up I mean Washington

786
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: on September thirtieth is really the first game, and it

787
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: gets serious really quickly after that. But that's the first

788
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: game where you look and you say, all right, that's

789
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: really where you got to have things figured out. I

790
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: think they'll haven't figured out by them. So the reason

791
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: why I made this an eight is not so much

792
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: cause I doubt UCLA can make it to the PAC

793
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 2: twelve championship game.

794
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: You got to have USC not there.

795
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: So we've got I got multiple qualifiers here, and I

796
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: just think statistically that's one of those improbable but not

797
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: impossible classic eights on the boldness scale. Chip Kelly needs

798
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: this one this year, though. Next up we go all

799
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: the way across the country. Three more letters here. Here's

800
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: the prediction. Haven't been hearing much about North Carolina lately,

801
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: so here we go. North Carolina is going to win

802
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: the ACC and a bolder prediction. Why not they go

803
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: to the playoff? Watching from Lincoln and Georgia, home of

804
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: the Red Devils and home of Garrison Hurst. This is

805
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: a nine for me. A lot of you got burned

806
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: by North Carolina last year. I'm a victim right there

807
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: along with you. They have the sixth best odds to

808
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: win the ACC this year. So that alone indicates that

809
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: this is pretty bold. Sixth best odds to win the

810
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: conference title. But not only do we need them to

811
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: win the conference title, we needed to make the playoff.

812
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: I've got some odds for them to win the title

813
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: here at plus fifteen thousand if you want some of that.

814
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: Here are Mac Brown's records so far at North Carolina

815
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: seven and six, eight and four, six and six. What

816
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: leads you to believe there is a one loss miracle

817
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: run to a conference title and a playoff in this

818
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 2: undefeated or one loss that's what you're gonna need? What

819
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: makes you think it's there? You've got turnover at quarterback here,

820
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: which I'm not necessary. I'm not saying it's a catastrophic loss,

821
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: but I am saying there's a lot of unknown on

822
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: that team. Maybe they do have it all figured out. Hey,

823
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: I'm a believer that they're going to hit the over

824
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: on their win total, which is seven and a half

825
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: for the record. But see notice what I said over

826
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 2: seven and a half, which means I'm good with eight

827
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: and four. Nine and three would be a great year

828
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: making the playoff, though that's an entirely different deal. I

829
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 2: don't think that's in the cards for them this year.

830
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: So Brandon Walker claims, I never say anything bad. Here's

831
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: a prediction. I don't think North Carolina is going to

832
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: make the playoff in twenty twenty two. It gets no

833
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: bolder than that. It's a nine. No, I don't actually

834
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: listen to him. Someone told me he said that. Lastly,

835
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: let's go to State College. PA Dave said, Penn State.

836
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 2: My prediction, they have another above average season and people

837
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: truly question the new James Franklin contract. This one's worded

838
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: in an interesting manner.

839
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: Let me read it again.

840
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: Penn State another above average season and people are going

841
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: to question the James Franklin contract. Well, they're over underwin

842
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: totals eight and a half. So what would we call

843
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: above average? Would it have to be nine wins? Eight

844
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: or nine wins I guess would be an above average season.

845
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: Let's call it nine.

846
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: If they win nine games this year, there's no way

847
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: anyone's questioning anything that's not happening. So they would have

848
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: to be below average for people to start questioning him.

849
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: Because even if you start questioning it, like so, let's

850
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: just let's assume for a second, they have a bad

851
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: year this year, they go seven and five, No, you

852
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: wouldn't be happy. But questioning the contract is something no

853
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: one's in a position to do up there, because you

854
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: can't just you can't use the benefit of hindsight to

855
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: go back in time and claim that something was the

856
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: wrong decision, because when they made the decision on the contract,

857
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: they didn't have a magic eight ball, so they wouldn't

858
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: have known seven and five was coming up. For example,

859
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: had they known that, maybe they handled the contract differently.

860
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: But the other thing you have to remember is at

861
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: the time, what was the landscape out there? Tons of

862
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: coaching drama, that was the landscape. And did James Franklin

863
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 2: capitalize on that?

864
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: Sure he did. Did he get a little bit more

865
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: money out of the ELK, Sure he did.

866
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: Could you afford to call his bluff if your Penn state,

867
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: of course you couldn't. And so they made the right

868
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: decision regardless of what he does this year. So let's

869
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: say they go seven and five this year, what's going

870
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 2: to happen is, well, logically, what would happen is people

871
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 2: will say this is not good enough, and James Franklin

872
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: would agree. I know it's not good enough, and then

873
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: you would look to the future, because here's what you

874
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: do have at Penn State that maybe has not been

875
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 2: in nearly as plentiful a supply lately. You got real

876
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 2: legit hope at the quarterback spot and Drew Oller and

877
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: Nicholas Singleton, whereas you may have to wait a year

878
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: to see you made I don't think you're gonna wait

879
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: a season. I think Nick Singleton is going to be

880
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: a big time player for them at running back this year.

881
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: Point being, you go eight or nine wins this year,

882
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: let's just say that's what the record is. You come

883
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: out of this season unlike years past saying boy, now

884
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: it's going to get better at quarterback. Now our offense

885
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: is going to get better, or at least we have

886
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: a reason to believe that. That hasn't meant what you've

887
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: said in the past. So they'll be hope. So if

888
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: they if they go six wins, it's a different conversation.

889
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: I don't think Penn State's going six and six, so

890
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: I think they'll be okay. There, hope a good thing,

891
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: maybe the.

892
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: Best of things. Goshank uh. Let's let's go with a

893
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: couple of questions. Here. I pick these out because I

894
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: love both of them. And then I've got a favor

895
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: to ask you at the very end of the show.

896
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: So let me present this. Please don't yell. If you're

897
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: listening on the podcast tomorrow morning wherever you are, don't

898
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: yell immediately.

899
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 2: Let me teed it up the right way. Dan asked

900
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: the question, and he said the following was voting for

901
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: a national champ really all that bad? Hold on, don't

902
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: immediately react. Don't have the bumper sticker reaction here. You

903
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: read something, you decide where you stand on it.

904
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: You move on.

905
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: Let's think critically. You and I let's just think critically

906
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: for a second. Is one of you the other day

907
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 2: when I asked what the biggest myths in college football were,

908
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: one of you came at me and you said, I'll

909
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: tell you what the biggest myth in college football is.

910
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 2: The biggest myth in college football is a bunch of

911
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 2: people got convinced they deserved to see a title play

912
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: out on the field. So how do you respond to that?

913
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: What do you think about him saying that it's kind

914
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: of the same thing. Dan said, Here, the immediate reaction

915
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: for anyone who's a competitor, anyone who loves sports here,

916
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: just train man. You want to see a climax. You

917
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: want to see a title one, not a worded. You

918
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: want to see it one. And I feel the same way.

919
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: Initially I feel the same way. But we've got to

920
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: take things into context here.

921
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: It's not a vacuum. There are consequences to changing up your.

922
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: Sport to where you get it to where you can

923
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: logically or reasonably have a title game play out on

924
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: the field. You reward a championship on the field. So

925
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: I went a little deeper on the thinking here. And

926
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 2: you know what my answer to Dan's question is, the

927
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: more and more we get into this era, the more

928
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: and more I say, Nah, I guess it wasn't all

929
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 2: that bad.

930
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,479
Speaker 1: I thought it was terrible at the time.

931
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: Man thought, how in the world, or am I having

932
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: to live in a society here in college football where

933
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: we're the ones who don't crown a champion on the field.

934
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: Then came the BCS era, which I don't think was

935
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: a bad thing. If you just took me back there,

936
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: I'd be fine. But here's my answer to this. I

937
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: can only answer it for myself. You can answer your

938
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: own way when people say, would you rather have what

939
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: you have now?

940
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: Would you rather go.

941
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: Back to the pre BCS era where they're awarding a

942
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: championship via polls? You know what I'd love to change

943
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: about that is the folks voting. That's the one I'd

944
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: love to change about it, more so than the system itself.

945
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: I know it sounds backwards, and from any other viewpoint

946
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: it is. But in college football, here's what I do.

947
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: I ask myself, what do I love? What is my

948
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: non starter? What am I not willing to give up?

949
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: And that is always the regular season Saturdays For me,

950
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: Saturday's in the fall.

951
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: That means more than anything. So what I asked myself is.

952
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: We're Saturdays in the fall ever hurt because we weren't

953
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: crowning a champion in a championship game at the end

954
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: of the year.

955
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: My answer is no.

956
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: Those campuses, those atmospheres, those environments, they were there regardless

957
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: of what was going to happen in December and January.

958
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: People just valued the conference championships that much more.

959
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: And so I ask myself then, as I'm thinking critically

960
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: here and I know it's dangerous, that's the smoke coming

961
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: out of the years, right Now, what was the biggest risk,

962
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: Because I've seen the risk on the other side, I've

963
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: seen what the playoff era has done. Not a big

964
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: fan of a lot of it. So I'm still passionate

965
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: about the sport. I'm just not a fan of a

966
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 2: lot of the trimmings of the sport. What was the

967
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: biggest risk in remaining in that era? And you know

968
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 2: what the answer is, some people would have gotten mad

969
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: every year. That was the big risk. You would have

970
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 2: had a champion. They just would have been I guess

971
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 2: awarded and instead of crowned on a field, there wouldn't

972
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: have been necessarily as much confetti. You would have had

973
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: a champion. Sometimes you would have had multiple champions. Hey,

974
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: who didn't love multiple winners? Where would Catholicism be without

975
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: the popes oscar the office?

976
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 1: So people would have gotten mad.

977
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 2: I think this is where we diverge paths a little bit,

978
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 2: the expansionist crowd when we argue I look at people

979
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: getting mad at the end of the year, and I

980
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 2: just see people get mad. I don't see a problem

981
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: that needs to be solved all the time. Sometimes when

982
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: people are mad, they just get mad and then they

983
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: tire themselves out. And then they go on about their life.

984
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: Nothing really needed to change. We're all good. But apparently

985
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: somewhere along the lines, we got to a situation where

986
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: someone got convinced if someone's mad, that means there's a

987
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: problem that has to be fixed, and therefore we started

988
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: tinkering with something that, as it turns out, probably did,

989
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: probably didn't need to be tinkered with the whole heck

990
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: of a lot. I guess the difference in what I'm

991
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: saying and the reason I don't mind that era, it's

992
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: because I don't care about crowning a national champ in

993
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: college football as much as other people.

994
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm in the minority on that. I readily admit that NFL,

995
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: you better.

996
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: Give me a Super Bowl. Major League Baseball, you better

997
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: give me a World Series. Those are entirely it's almost

998
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 2: like apples and oranges. I know it's all sports, but

999
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: it's almost like two different worlds, comparing the structure and

1000
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: the way those those entire leagues are built to how

1001
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: completely hirky jerky college football's put together. It's just different worlds. Therefore,

1002
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: I don't care if college football's run differently. I always

1003
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: I'll tell you where I differ I've always looked at

1004
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: the dissimilarity from college football to the NFL, and all

1005
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: I've seen is, oh, they're different. I never saw something

1006
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: that needed to be fixed. I never watched the Saturday

1007
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: game and saw the fourteen things that are different about

1008
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: Saturday than Sunday and said, boy, we cannot rest on

1009
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: our laurels until we get this Saturday product looking exactly

1010
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: like that Sunday product.

1011
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 1: I never viewed college football that way. I don't today.

1012
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: There's some stuff in our sport that's different from the NFL,

1013
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 2: and I think we got the better end of the deal.

1014
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: And I've always thought that about college football.

1015
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: That's why I choose to be passionate about college football,

1016
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: and I do watch the NFL. NFL's fine with me,

1017
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: but I don't feel the way about the Sunday game.

1018
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: I do about the Saturday game.

1019
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 2: Some other people have and had different ideas. They looked

1020
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: at the Saturday game. They're still doing it this very

1021
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: moment when it comes to conference realignment. They look at

1022
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 2: the Saturday game and they see differences. But to them,

1023
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: those differences are problems. Those differences are flaws that need

1024
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: to be fixed, and they will not rest until this

1025
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: game looks as similar to the Sunday game as possible,

1026
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: because you make more money off of it.

1027
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: I'm not stupid. I get how that works. I don't

1028
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: have to like it, though.

1029
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: That's where I've been, that's where I'll always be, and

1030
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: that's why I don't even care if you hit a

1031
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: rewind button and you took us back thirty years and

1032
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: you put us in the ap Pole era and we're

1033
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: crowning a conference champ by writing their name on a

1034
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: piece of paper, I don't care. As long as you

1035
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: give me my Saturdays in the fall. I don't care

1036
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: how you crown your nation. I didn't think I would

1037
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: ever say that back then, because I was ignorant to

1038
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: what the future held. And now, if I could go

1039
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: back and tell little JP a couple of things.

1040
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: Among those couple.

1041
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: Of things would be, hey, man, don't mess with the postseason.

1042
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: Just just leave it alone, or stop at the BCS.

1043
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: Stop there last question here kind of talked about this

1044
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: a little while ago. Tommy said, why has there been

1045
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: so little talk about Georgia on the show lately?

1046
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: They just want a title? Right, Tommy, You're right.

1047
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: I never thought in a million billion years this would

1048
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: be the case that I grow up in the state

1049
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: of Georgia, my entire life is void of a Georgia

1050
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: national championship. We, through immense blessing, are able to elevate

1051
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: a college football show to a national level.

1052
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: Georgia wins a title, and we barely talked about it.

1053
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: You would think there's anti bulldog bias on the show

1054
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: if you didn't know any better. Well, that's not the case.

1055
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: But the case is, I don't think we're alone here.

1056
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: If you've looked around, I have not picked up on

1057
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: a whole lot of Georgia hype period. It's just been

1058
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: the way of the college football world. And I don't

1059
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: think Kirby Smart would have it any other way. This

1060
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: is a perfect storm for him. I mean, you could

1061
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: not have dressed this up any better.

1062
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: I would have thought.

1063
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: It's sort of a blind look ahead into the future

1064
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: that if and when Georgia ever gets to a national championship,

1065
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 2: when they will be so hungover and complacent the following year,

1066
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: knowing those folks like I do, knowing the culture of

1067
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: that state, in that program like I do, they will

1068
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: not be able to get out of their own way.

1069
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: You just show up to the stadium, they'll beat themselves

1070
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,959
Speaker 2: the next year. That's how I thought it would play out.

1071
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: As it turns out, it's nothing like that. Kirby Smart's

1072
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: got exactly what he wants. He won a championship first

1073
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: time in a generation. He brought a championship to his

1074
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: alma mater that they can never take away from him

1075
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: until the end of time.

1076
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: He's in the record books and history books.

1077
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: But then college football just decided to lose its mind

1078
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: immediately afterwards, and you had playoff drama the day of

1079
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: the game. You had playoff drama, and you had Nick

1080
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: Saban and Jimbo fish Are sniping back and forth, and

1081
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: that sucked a ton of the oxygen out of the room.

1082
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: Nil on the transfer of Portland, what we're going to

1083
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 2: do about it has dominated conversation from January until filling

1084
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: the blank in the future.

1085
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: And also we've.

1086
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Speaker 2: Got conference realignment, just bombshells left and right. You really

1087
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: haven't had a whole lot of time to just sit back.

1088
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: If you're running a show. I understand you live in Bainbridge, George,

1089
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: it's a little bit different. You're out on the back

1090
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: porch every night reliving right after you watch the replay.

1091
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: Good for you, guys, but from a national perspective, that

1092
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 2: elixir that often leads to complacency. I don't think they've

1093
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: been able to ingest a whole lot of it because

1094
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: Kurbis s Mart's got what he want. He won the

1095
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: title and then none of the bad stuff afterwards seems

1096
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: to have really come. And they don't really have superstars

1097
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: returning on this team. They've got really good players. They

1098
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 2: got the third most talented roster in America. They don't

1099
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: have a bunch of bona fide superstars. In other words,

1100
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: they don't have a lot of guys coming back that

1101
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: you worry about in complacent or thinking they've arrived, because

1102
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: there are a lot of guys on that team that

1103
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 2: sure enough, they were on the roster last year. They

1104
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: haven't earned anything, haven't earned any kind of credit because

1105
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: they were behind the guys who did it last year.

1106
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: Even quarterback, when's the last time you saw a team

1107
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: win a national title? Quarterback from that team returns and

1108
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: no one really even looks at him as any kind

1109
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: of preseason favorite to do anything.

1110
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Speaker 1: It's just such a unique situation.

1111
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: The other thing that I would think about is it's

1112
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: their first one, even Saban after his first one. They

1113
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: look at the twenty ten team as the biggest missed

1114
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 2: opportunity in.

1115
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: His time there. They lost three games. He didn't know

1116
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: how to handle it.

1117
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 2: Jimbo dealt with it after the twenty thirteen run at

1118
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 2: Florida State. He didn't know how to handle it. And

1119
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: a lot of those guys when they do it for

1120
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: the first time at a program, urban dealt with that.

1121
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: There's no magic formula. This is Kirby's first time, So

1122
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't prove to you that they'll

1123
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: show up with every bit hunger they had last year

1124
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: and they'll be void of complacency. It's human nature for

1125
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: that stuff to seep in. I would look at this

1126
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: Georgia team, though, all things considered, and I would say

1127
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: they've got an infinitely better shot of trying to duplicate

1128
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: some of the success they had in their title year

1129
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: than I ever thought they would. I mean, I thought

1130
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: that thing would linger over them so much the following

1131
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: year whenever it finally happened, and that's just not the

1132
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: way it's set up. So I you know, they've got

1133
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: holes to fill, so does everyone. It's college football, But

1134
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: right Now they've got the third best odds to win

1135
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: the national championship at plus four hundred Bama's at plus

1136
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 2: one to eighty Ohio State at plus three seven five. Okay,

1137
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 2: before we get out of here, I've got a favor

1138
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: to ask you guys. Remember this is not the favor,

1139
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: just a reminder now that we're deep in the show. Tomorrow,

1140
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: at a time of my choosing, we will launch the

1141
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 2: Late Kickstore. You all, all you need to be doing

1142
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 2: is following me on social at Late Kick Josh. We

1143
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: got the don't we got everything built. We're ready to go,

1144
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: but you need to be ready to go. So that's

1145
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 2: that announcement. Now, with that out of the way, we've

1146
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 2: got one of the longest tenured supporters are supporters. I'm

1147
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: not from Boston, so the supporters out there, out there somewhere,

1148
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: the supporters of our show, especially the ones who date

1149
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: back to our time in Columbus, they mean just a

1150
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: little bit more to us.

1151
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: And about two or.

1152
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: Three times a year, I just flat out asked for

1153
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 2: you if you can help out, to help out. We've

1154
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: helped hurricane victims of a time or two. Well, we've

1155
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: got a little situation that I feel obligated for us

1156
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: to step.

1157
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: Up on and help.

1158
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 2: So one of our real longtime supporters, really good Dude,

1159
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: out in a Tasca Sea to Texas, had a couple

1160
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: of guys killed the other day. A couple of guys

1161
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: working at a golf club out there, twins actually thirty

1162
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: one years old car wreck.

1163
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: Both of them killed, and they.

1164
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: Were not in a place financially ignor is their family

1165
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: where they can really handle that kind of expense, And

1166
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: the golf club out there is already doing a lot.

1167
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 2: But any time I've ever asked for this, I do

1168
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: not feel any obligation. But normally when I've asked for

1169
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 2: this sort of thing, a couple of you who are

1170
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: in a financial position that you can help out on

1171
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: this sort of thing, you reach out to me privately.

1172
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: So I'm putting it out there again we as a show,

1173
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: I would like to step up on this. So if

1174
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: you're in a position where you'd like to help out,

1175
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: you reach out to me privately. Josh paid seven zero

1176
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: six at gmail dot com, or you can DM me

1177
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: on any of my socials at late Kickjosh and I

1178
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: would love for us to get this taken care of.

1179
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: They're already about halfway towards getting those expenses paid for.

1180
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: I'd love for us to wipe this out for them.

1181
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: So if you want to help out, hit me up

1182
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: and we'll take care of it. And I appreciate it

1183
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: in advance because we have never asked for this and

1184
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: not had you go infinitely above and beyond, so I

1185
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: know you will thank you in advance.

1186
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 1: We try and help out wherever we can.

1187
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: All right, we got a live show Sunday night, then

1188
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: I'm headed to Atlanta right afterwards, probably irresponsibly late for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

1189
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that means we're gonna have five

1190
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 2: shows in a row. Also irresponsible, but hey, it's our show.

1191
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: Now.

1192
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: What can they really do? What would they do even

1193
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 2: if they could? So we got a busy week coming up. Look, guys,

1194
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: they break camp in like two weeks. It's time to go.

1195
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 2: Even if you believed in.

1196
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: That old word off season, it's done. It's in the

1197
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: rear view. You can rest in late January. So it's

1198
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: about time to get down to business. And we're gonna

1199
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: head down to it a Landa next week. Thank you

1200
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: so much. Late kickstore opening tomorrow.

1201
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 2: All the Pete State gear your heart can desire until then.

1202
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: Like the video on your Way Out where producer Jesse,

1203
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: we're director Colin.

1204
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate. Thanks so much for watching, Have a

1205
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Speaker 1: great rest of your evening and God bless