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<v Speaker 1>Hi, who is this.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Ivan, and thanks for taking my call there.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Ivan, you're so man, you're so polite.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I get that a lot. It's most awkwardness, but

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>You get this a lot, You get a lot that

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<v Speaker 1>you're polite.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would certainly say.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me more about that. Why do you think

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<v Speaker 1>you're so polite?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Oh? Man, Well, I can go through the years

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<v Speaker 2>of therapy. But it's it's probably like a that's mechanism saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a way to see not off putting, but

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<v Speaker 2>also kind of show the people, Hey, I'm a cool dude.

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<v Speaker 2>You can talk to me. I won't, you know, be

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<v Speaker 2>too terribly weird, you know, one of those sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>things interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting the way you phrase it, is it like, is

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<v Speaker 1>this a way of being that you have designed and

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<v Speaker 1>perfected or is it just something that came naturally to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's absolutely a mask that has been perfected over

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<v Speaker 2>the years. That is without question. I'd say it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>not too fake of a mask. It's more like a

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<v Speaker 2>defense mechanism thing where it allows me to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>be friends with people that I meet in life and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know I guess it's just always worked for me,

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<v Speaker 2>so I kind of stick with it and I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like it in some ways. Some ways, by the ways,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not so great, but I think in most ways

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<v Speaker 2>it's Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I don't know if this is rude to ask, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>go for it. Do you have Do you have autism?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think that about myself, although I've asked

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<v Speaker 2>a lot and no one's in my therapy history like

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<v Speaker 2>made that diagnosis. If I am, and I do believe

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<v Speaker 2>I'm somewhere on the spectrum, it would be like probably

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<v Speaker 2>some form of high functioning thing. And if it's anything

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<v Speaker 2>deeper than that, it's probably something like, you know, verbal

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<v Speaker 2>communication is my thing, where like I hyper fixate on

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<v Speaker 2>how a much speaking, what I'm talking about, all this

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<v Speaker 2>other thing, you know, hyper aware how people are talking

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and basically all the typical queue based stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'd say it's probably not too far Interuth.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because I know that they were talking about you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, do you watch do you watch the rehearsal

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<v Speaker 1>by Nathan Fielder? No, But I'm interested, okay, because they

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<v Speaker 1>talk about masking, they talk about autism on that show

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<v Speaker 1>and they talk about masking, and I know that that

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<v Speaker 1>is like a like like that's a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's It's been brought up in past conversations

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, therapists I've had where I talk about that,

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<v Speaker 2>and the way it kind of comes back is, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it really depends on what era of my life, but

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<v Speaker 2>most of it has been like, hey, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>sort of trying to protect yourself while also trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, the person you say you're trying to be,

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<v Speaker 2>which is difficult to deny yourself, to hold yourself to

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<v Speaker 2>like a high standard, all that kind of stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like anxiety induced but also like a seeming effective strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's it's weird. I don't know, I just know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I'm a little kooky, and most people seem

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<v Speaker 2>to be okay with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is is that exult like masking? And do you do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're performing? Do you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>like having to put effort into existing in in an

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<v Speaker 1>intentional way?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, definitely, if I mean I can be a

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<v Speaker 2>little more open and to say, like, you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the one of my little weird quirks is I'm

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<v Speaker 2>constantly talking to myself in very strange situations. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking a shower, I'm walking down the road. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>constantly rehearsing conversations in my head with imaginary people or

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<v Speaker 2>real people in my life. And it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>a way to prepare myself for what I know to

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<v Speaker 2>be awkward conversation or a way to kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>feel the emotion ahead of time. You know, that's all

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<v Speaker 2>kind of been trained into me, at least to understand

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<v Speaker 2>the words for it. But I think it's been around

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time in my history of just how

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<v Speaker 2>I interact with people. But it does get very tiring.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it can be opposite, depending on like the people

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<v Speaker 2>I'm around. I can be almost motive, almost energized by it, because,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, if you're being kind of a kindly person,

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<v Speaker 2>other people kind of react to that in a kindly way,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it kind of perks you up. But on

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<v Speaker 2>the days where that's not quite so easy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the control I like to be in my computer room

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<v Speaker 2>and do my computer the things, so you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>just messing back.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, you absolutely have to watch the rehearsal.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm I'm opening up the Googles.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, do you know do you know who Nathan Fielder is?

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever heard of Nathan for you, I.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't, and I'm pretty sure I need to. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know things about the modern world I've been under

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<v Speaker 2>for basically all my life. So I'm happy to th

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<v Speaker 2>all about it though.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, now you should, you should. You should watch

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<v Speaker 1>the rehearsal. It's well, it's extremely funny, but be maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it'll maybe it it'll you'll connect with it in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, yeah, okay, So that's what I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, is it's like that way of being where

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're performing and you you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>answer my question already. But that must be exhausting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And I'll tell you a part that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't quite like about it is oftentimes when it is exhausting,

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<v Speaker 2>it becomes almost a bit of a resentment sometimes, which

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<v Speaker 2>is where the therapy comes in, because there's a part

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<v Speaker 2>of me that tries so incredibly hard to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>be there for the other person, you know, to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of be at their conversational level, and if it's not

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<v Speaker 2>feeling like it's returned, well, there's you know, there's the exhaustion.

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<v Speaker 2>There's that you know, sort of feeling of, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>why aren't you trying in the same way I seem

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<v Speaker 2>to be trying. And then you know, sometimes it makes

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<v Speaker 2>you try harder, which is more tiring, and I can

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<v Speaker 2>already feel myself finally.

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<v Speaker 1>M m hmmm. So that does that make you feel resentment?

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<v Speaker 1>It makes you feel Okay, So you're having a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with someone and you're putting like all your fucking effort

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<v Speaker 1>into having this social interaction, and it's like taking everything

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<v Speaker 1>that you've got to have this social interaction, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell on the other ends that the other person

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<v Speaker 1>is not either having to or even wanting to, put

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<v Speaker 1>in as much effort as you're putting in, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that leads you to resent that person, is what you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying in a weird way. Yeah, and maybe it resents

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong word, but it makes me feel disconnected and

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<v Speaker 2>sort of even more awkward, you know, even more aware

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<v Speaker 2>of the fact that I'm doing what I'm doing. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I guess some of my closest friends that

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<v Speaker 2>I've had in life have been people that don't make

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<v Speaker 2>me feel that way. I guess people that just kind of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, automatically, I guess rock whatever it is, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thrown at them. And you know, I think that's also

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<v Speaker 2>tell you why I tend to have I've had very few,

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<v Speaker 2>very close friends in life. I made lots of acquaintances

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<v Speaker 2>that lots of people, you know, very friendly to them. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can kind of get along with folks. But

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of close personal relationships, yeah, I know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's very admitted. In fact now is it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>why I was I was calling in because it's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of related to what's going on in life now. Is

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<v Speaker 2>just I'm probably at the least number of personal connections

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<v Speaker 2>I have, and I'm just you know, reaching out to

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<v Speaker 2>the world to see what other people think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I was actually about to say, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think your situation is not uncommon by any stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>the imagination, because A it's dude, it's really in general,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter who you are, it's really really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>find people that you feel strongly connected with, that you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like get you, that you feel like even for

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<v Speaker 1>even for people who who don't have you know, strong

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<v Speaker 1>uh uh uh impulses to to to mask themselves. Like

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<v Speaker 1>for for it's hard to find people that you can

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<v Speaker 1>connect with. It's hard to find like the experience of

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like you're putting an effort into connecting to people

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<v Speaker 1>and that you're not getting it back. A. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>that experience in my personal life. Uh, constantly, constantly had

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<v Speaker 1>that experience in my personal life. And B I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think it's a a very universal experience. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think. I don't know if that

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<v Speaker 1>makes you feel I don't know if that makes you

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<v Speaker 1>feel any better about the fact that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're experiences weird. Yeah, I know it's because it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's no, it's not a weird thing, especially because you

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<v Speaker 1>seem like, I don't know, I've only known you for

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<v Speaker 1>nine minutes or so, but you seem like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a like a smart, aware, you know, conscious person, And

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<v Speaker 1>when you're that, it's harder to it's harder to connect

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<v Speaker 1>with other people. It's just in you know. But on

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<v Speaker 1>that But the good news for people who have trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, finding finding those connections is that when you

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<v Speaker 1>do find those connections, even if they're not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on the quantity side of things, even if they're not

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot, they're they're very deep connections, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>worth that's worth a lot, you know, So you could

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to do a quantitative analysis of how

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<v Speaker 1>many friends you have, I think that that's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the right analysis to be doing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's if you if you find people that you

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<v Speaker 1>can connect with on a deep basis, I mean, that's rare,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, especially for you know, if you're if you're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as as I get the sense that you are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a smart, conscious person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I I mean the longest friendship I've had

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<v Speaker 2>was since I was maybe fifteen or sixteen, and the

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<v Speaker 2>person I was friends with I would say I very

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<v Speaker 2>much had that connection with and because of going through

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of personal just sort of nonsense and choices,

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<v Speaker 2>I basically push that person away. And you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things where I certainly try to re

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<v Speaker 2>establish a connection and and talk, but it's it is

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult because there's the connection to part of like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well the person I am now the person that I was,

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<v Speaker 2>is it worth it. There's a fear to that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a silly fear. I know, but I do miss having

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of a lot of connection. So at least

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that, hey, I am, in fact in a populace

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<v Speaker 2>of other humans are doing the exact same thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>get goes. I suppose it's not too it's not too bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you said you specifically wanted to call in

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about this. Uh, I wanted to let you

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<v Speaker 1>speak your piece for a second, like what, yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly tell me like of the situation that you find

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's it's not too complicated, but it takes a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of context. So if I go too long,

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<v Speaker 2>please just let me know.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>So the context is, you know, I mentioned I met

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<v Speaker 2>this friend when I was fifteen or sixteen, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>my friend. He was my friend until I was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>mid toly twenties. And the reason I met him was

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<v Speaker 2>I was playing a video game long time ago, Go

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<v Speaker 2>Darky Camelot, No anyone recognizes it, Go you. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, I was also playing a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>card games Pokemon to TCG is, playing out the tournaments,

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<v Speaker 2>got lots of friends, you know, traveling the country kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing, you know, and so you know, basically my

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<v Speaker 2>closest friend, my closest friends in general, my family kind

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<v Speaker 2>of revolved around this hobby that you know, put my

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<v Speaker 2>friends through college, put me through college because of scholarships.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I had a lot of amazing stories of

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<v Speaker 2>mine come from being a part of this. And of course,

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<v Speaker 2>over that you know, period of time, I developed quite

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<v Speaker 2>a collection of just Pokemon arts. Never mind all the

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<v Speaker 2>other fun games, but just Pokemon cards, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>well over a decade. So I mentioned, you know, going

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<v Speaker 2>through therapy. You all with different problems in life. And

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<v Speaker 2>in the last ten years, almost eleven, now, I was

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<v Speaker 2>in a very i'll just say, very unhealthy relationship and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm now seeking divorce from the person. But you are married,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, we were married, and it was not a

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<v Speaker 2>good choice I would say to do that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>did make that choice. Now I'm trying to help myself

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<v Speaker 2>by making that. I suppose, and I can tell you

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<v Speaker 2>details if you're interested, but that the relationship was really

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<v Speaker 2>what caused me to push away my friends, my family,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of other things just just in general.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason I'm mentioning that is when I was

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<v Speaker 2>leaving that relationship and kind of trying to reach out

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<v Speaker 2>to family and friends. I reached out to my mother first,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was in Yankton, South Dakota, of all places,

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<v Speaker 2>and I met some friends there who played Pokemon really

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of games, and I was really excited to

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<v Speaker 2>take my collection, and so, oh my gosh, it's been years.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited to have this. I can't wait. Hey, Mom,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, can I can? I can? I can? I

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<v Speaker 2>come back home get my stuff and come back and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of heal and do this stuff with my friends

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<v Speaker 2>and a bit of silence, And through a very long

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<v Speaker 2>conversation I found out that two years prior to me

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<v Speaker 2>calling her, she had sold the entire collection for a

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<v Speaker 2>very princely some of one hundred thousand dollars, which is

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<v Speaker 2>actually a very undervalued amount what the collection was. What

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<v Speaker 2>fu Yeah, it kind of broke me.

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<v Speaker 1>And that break that fucking breaks me. Man, goddamn, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, that's that breaks my fucking heart.

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<v Speaker 3>So I.

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<v Speaker 2>I it really sucks because I understand, or I was

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<v Speaker 2>made to understand, and I think part of the niceness

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<v Speaker 2>is where the problem comes. But that apparently they needed

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<v Speaker 2>the money of some kind, and I understand that but

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<v Speaker 2>that amount of money. And this is not to brag.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to put myself in another position. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying that I could have helped them pay whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they needed for and they never contacted me. And the

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<v Speaker 2>reason they said is because, oh, well, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>stop talking to us, and we didn't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>liked it anymore. And I kind of gave them about

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<v Speaker 2>a year to talk can kind of be around him,

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<v Speaker 2>And I realized in the last few months that I

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<v Speaker 2>really couldn't reconcile this. I really couldn't, you know. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was. It was almost one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things that you know, strawbook broke the camel's back of

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<v Speaker 2>talking with them, because you know, in the last few years,

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<v Speaker 2>I've also seen the people they've become. They are not

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<v Speaker 2>very you know, They've always treated me with an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>amount of love and care and respect my entire childhood,

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<v Speaker 2>but as I grew in into an adult, I saw

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<v Speaker 2>their beliefs and habits change like a lot of people's have,

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<v Speaker 2>which is very unfortunate. And them having done that to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I realized was probably the biggest portrayal of my trust

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<v Speaker 2>and confidence and care of publicative ever experienced, and I

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<v Speaker 2>have almost no desire to ever talk to them again.

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<v Speaker 2>And it really hurts because the same person that you

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<v Speaker 2>know you sent a minute or two ago, was smart

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, willing to chat and be friendly, is

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<v Speaker 2>also struggling with not talking to his parents because of

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<v Speaker 2>you know what other people call a collection of cardboard,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and so you know, I it's it's difficult

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't know what I want to do, how

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to do, what or why I'm doing what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing. I just know I don't feel good and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to defend myself for the first time. But

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<v Speaker 2>really I saw him I wanted to kind of talk

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<v Speaker 2>about with Hey, listen, this thing happened to me. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't exactly know what to feel. These are the choices

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<v Speaker 2>I'm making and what does that sound like to you?

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<v Speaker 2>And from your first response it sounded like, yeah, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a big deal. But please, now that I've said

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<v Speaker 2>everything and you can feel free to share wherever you

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<v Speaker 2>got there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a few things. One is you said, I you

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<v Speaker 1>it really caught my ear when you said this guy

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<v Speaker 1>who is uh uh? You said, I said, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy who is uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you say I'm polite and willing to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to people. He said, Oh, this guy is polite and

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<v Speaker 1>willing to talk to people, won't talk to his own parents.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, human beings are immensely dynamic, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can be multiple, you can be multiple contradicting things once

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<v Speaker 1>and at different times and in different contexts, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know they're all true. So when I believe that, but two,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, damn man, I'm sorry to hear that. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you know, just well, it's more than just cardboard, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, hey, I mean your parents taking your shit

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<v Speaker 1>and then selling it. By the way, what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Pokemon cars did you have that were worth one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars?

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<v Speaker 2>Everything from the very first base sets and miss prints.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a collector, you know, things like Shadowish chars arts.

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<v Speaker 2>I add a first edition one of those that's already

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<v Speaker 2>three thousand there, everything from the base set all the

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<v Speaker 2>way up to probably a few years past, the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>groupy Sapphire series.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think I think that's so fucked. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's fucked man, your parents, I do. I think that's fucked. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't tell you whether or not. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I can't ponder for you whether or not you

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<v Speaker 1>should have a relationship with your parents, but like I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that is fucked that they sold your Pokemon

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<v Speaker 1>cards for that much money. I mean, even if it

0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.720
<v Speaker 1>would be I would be if they threw them away,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it's here the thing, right, if they

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<v Speaker 1>threw them away out of just ignorance, because they were

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, they're old, and they're like, uh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>these are his old toys. He doesn't need these anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Right if it was like if it was like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that would still piss me off on your behalf. If

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<v Speaker 1>it was like that, that would still piss me off

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<v Speaker 1>on your behalf. But at least you could chalk that

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<v Speaker 1>up to like ignorance, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 1>this was like to take them and sell them for

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred grand behind your back. That's fucked. That's like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like willful fucked up nicks. You know it.

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<v Speaker 2>It hurts. And the part that hurts the most is,

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<v Speaker 2>like you mentioned that, you know, when I was young

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<v Speaker 2>and even to late late young adulthood, I guess you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my mother was what I consider to be one of

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<v Speaker 2>my closest personal friends. I guess my father is a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a bit of a bit of a more strange person,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, still loved him very dearly, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I recognize, you know, when I had that

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<v Speaker 2>conversation that she was sad and she said, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really mean to. But the problem is, like the

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<v Speaker 2>relationship I have with them is that is that the

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<v Speaker 2>reason I feel this way is that this is something

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<v Speaker 2>that they chose to do because they knew that I

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<v Speaker 2>was the person that would just turn the other cheek

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<v Speaker 2>and accept their choice. And I know that myself, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know that that's already in my head, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know that that that they'd go, okay, well, if we

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<v Speaker 2>do this, all we have to do is say sorry

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<v Speaker 2>basically and be sad, and he would accept that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know that they don't want to feel that either,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know that that's the dynamic, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want that in my life anymore. And it makes me

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<v Speaker 2>very sad. It makes me sadder than I've ever made

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm turning into a place well, I recognize that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to change as the personally stronger, better, more connected,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm aware of these choices they've made. But as

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<v Speaker 2>I've tried to talk to them about this, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as I tried to bring it up, it was annoying

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<v Speaker 2>that the resistance, and in fact, the last time I

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<v Speaker 2>talked with my mother it was almost a three hour

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<v Speaker 2>screen match where and again there's very little extra context

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<v Speaker 2>to this, but because of she she I wasn't calling

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<v Speaker 2>her enough, she contacted my partner and said that if

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't contact her soon, she would call the police

0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.840
<v Speaker 2>for a wellness check. And I had just called here

0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.320
<v Speaker 2>and texted her like two days ago and constantly do

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<v Speaker 2>but this that, that over helicoptering or something, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just it snapped. And when when when I snapped? And

0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:50.800
<v Speaker 2>we got in an argument, which is unfortunately very common.

0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:52.919
<v Speaker 2>When we're like that, all the truth comes out, so

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<v Speaker 2>to speak, or at least the raw stuff, and she

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<v Speaker 2>said something that made me realize that, no, that's actually

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<v Speaker 2>how she felt. I said, you know, you know mod

0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.040
<v Speaker 2>this this thing you did, you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>understand it was a major portrayal. And one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons I have difficult talking to you is because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to express this to you. And she goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus says that stupid collection again, and I realized that. Okay,

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I understand you said it in anger. I understand you

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<v Speaker 2>said it meanly or you said it to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>express your whatever, But that meant that, really, deep down

0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you did think it was some stupid collection. It meant

0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.200
<v Speaker 2>that you had chosen the value or maybe it become devalued.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't. I don't, and and I recognized it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I recognize it now and it just hurts and

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<v Speaker 2>it it It both feels good to hear someone else going, yeah,

0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:42.119
<v Speaker 2>that's ridiculous, and also like, yeah, well you know why,

0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.040
<v Speaker 2>and that's kind of with it. It's just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here, supposed to go back to work in

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<v Speaker 2>a few minutes, and I just want to know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just wanted to share that and

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<v Speaker 2>ask questions and kind of get a response because, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I totally recognize it's a collection of cards,

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<v Speaker 2>but to me, it was an identity. It was a

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:04.919
<v Speaker 2>person that I grew through. It was something that I

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.520
<v Speaker 2>could go to. Hell. I remember being crying in California

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:11.040
<v Speaker 2>on the floor, thinking, you know, I'm in this terrible

0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:14.000
<v Speaker 2>relationship but I could think about this cool past that

0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I have and someday I'll get back home and I

0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:18.320
<v Speaker 2>look at those cards again and they were gone. You know,

0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know about it. And so anyway, I'm

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 2>talking quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no at all. What's your name again? What's your

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<v Speaker 1>name again? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Ivan?

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<v Speaker 1>Ivan?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Mmm?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you just you fucking you just you just spit, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you just I mean that was you really just spit

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<v Speaker 1>right just now?

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<v Speaker 2>That was?

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<v Speaker 1>That was? That was powerful. I'm I'm being that serious

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 1>because when you the way you said that, you were

0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:55.240
<v Speaker 1>like fuck sheet like that that that really it breaks

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.280
<v Speaker 1>my heart man, Like when you were like, oh, she

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<v Speaker 1>knew that she could she could sell those cars because

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:05.679
<v Speaker 1>she knew that I wouldn't put up a fight about it.

0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Quite really hurt when I've realized it hurt. So yeah,

0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I don't know that. That's just my

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:15.920
<v Speaker 2>story in that now, I guess.

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I then, oh, man, I know you got to go

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:23.440
<v Speaker 1>back to work soon. But what what else? What else

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>is going on in your in your life? I'm invested

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 1>in your art, I'm invested in your development. I'm I'm like,

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what's because you're yeah, man, well yeah, what's

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>going on? What else is going on in your in

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 1>your universe here?

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 2>All right? Well I mentioned the divorce that's also been

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 2>weighing very heavily because uh got it. It's mentioned in ARC.

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 2>And all of a sudden, I thought back, like, it's

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:56.679
<v Speaker 2>been this three years. What feels like is just un

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<v Speaker 2>ending BS. So okay, super long story as short as

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<v Speaker 2>they can make it. Three years ago the partner that

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:07.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm divorcing from now and I decided to leave who

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 2>we were living in California and live on the road

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and a trailer thirty five up the trailer pickup truck,

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, driving around state state, living in the trailer

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<v Speaker 2>full time. I'm a software developer. Yeah we'll get there,

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 2>but living so software developer and I could work remotely

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 2>and do my thing. But when when you already have

0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 2>problems in a relationship and then you put them in

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:36.360
<v Speaker 2>a smaller box and you see that person even more

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.920
<v Speaker 2>often with even less ability to have personal space or

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.640
<v Speaker 2>work on problems, and the person you're with is already

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 2>sort of spiraling, it makes things worse. And I realized

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 2>in those almost two years that things weren't working. Constantly screaming, fighting, yelling,

0:24:57.080 --> 0:25:00.040
<v Speaker 2>all sorts of terrible stuff. And I snapped multiple times

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 2>mentally in terms of, you know, just screaming in a

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Walmart parking lot, yelling at nothing because as my only outlet.

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:11.639
<v Speaker 2>So that'll happen over the course of two years. And

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 2>I found myself in Yankton, South Dakota because of some

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 2>other nonsense not even worth just just just not more nonsense,

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 2>South Dakota with my partner at the time, and filed

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 2>for divorce because she was I was paying for her

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 2>to live in a hotel for months at that point,

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.640
<v Speaker 2>I was also staying in a hotel. We swapped off

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 2>back and forth in the list. This is not a

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.200
<v Speaker 2>relationship that I can I want to be a partner

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 2>of her try to fix anymore. So filed for divorce

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 2>and that was two years ago, and through three separate lawyers,

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 2>two of which had completely failed to life, remain in

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 2>contact with me, and just disordered to go. I didn't

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 2>know it was a thing, but you could totally be

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.879
<v Speaker 2>ghosted by a lawyer and there's not much you can

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 2>do about it. If the lawyer just start stops, decided

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 2>to talk to you your own choices to get another

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:06.360
<v Speaker 2>lawyer turns out, and so you know, I'm constantly fighting this.

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, this this partner of mine who I fught

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>to mention this. But when I was still in South

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Dakota and she was living in the hotel for a

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:17.439
<v Speaker 2>while when I served with when she was served with

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.679
<v Speaker 2>the papers a few days later, I found out she

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 2>called a friend of hers from California, who then flew

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 2>to Yankton. She showed up at the trailer's door that Saturday,

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.959
<v Speaker 2>collected all their things, and decided to drive with this person,

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 2>drive with the truck that pulled the trailer to California,

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 2>effectively stranding me, stranding me in the state. And I

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:41.959
<v Speaker 2>had you know, that's a whole nother story. But so

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 2>this is the kind of person, you know who makes

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 2>these sort of decisions. But the reason that card story

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 2>came up is because when I was dealing with being

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 2>stranded there and trying to go to therapy and trying

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 2>to find some something to stick to, I found a

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 2>friendly local game store. And in the family local game store,

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, just owned by a few friends and parents

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 2>of that I met them at the time, but just

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>incredibly welcoming, incredibly caring people. You know, and you mentioned

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 2>how how rare it is to find someone to connect with.

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>It is amazing you said that, because it's exactly what

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 2>I found. I found a friend who I'll keep his

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 2>name because I don't want to, you know, I don't

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 2>want to assume these He's okay with being talked about.

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 2>But I've already mentioned the city and states of oops.

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:28.640
<v Speaker 2>But the idea is I very much connected with these people,

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 2>and one person in particular was an incredible, incredible boon

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 2>to my life. And uh, it was because of that

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 2>that I called my parents and said about the thing,

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 2>realized the cards, and you know, I was doing okay

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 2>because I had them in my life. But since then,

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I've moved on from the state to another states because

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.479
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't, you know, being in the same trailer at

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 2>the same spot for a year and a half after

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>seeking divorce was like, I can't stay here anymore. So

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I moved now in Minnesota for a little while.

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, that's that's.

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Like as short as I can make the last few

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.640
<v Speaker 2>years and a bunch of weird stuff, but it's it's

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 2>why I'm calling anybody who will listen. Is because you know,

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I have all these weird things. It's very hard to

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 2>find someone who has a similar lifestyle that could relate,

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 2>or who even wants to listen. And you know, it's

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 2>so strange. Sometimes it sounds completely unreal. It does to me,

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 2>and I I don't know. I'm I'm the kind of

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 2>person that needs data points to kind of figure out

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>who and what I'm doing and why. So that's that's

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of where I am now. I'm in Minnesota asking

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 2>a gecko how the heck I be a human? So that.

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, sorry, if I just want to make sure I'm

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>understanding the current. Do you do not still live in

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>a trailer? No?

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>No, I I moved out of the trailer and I'm

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 2>actually currently living with someone else now, which is also

0:28:57.960 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 2>part of the difficulty.

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Person a romantic someone else.

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's romantic. And just to be completely transparent and open,

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, I met this person many many months after

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 2>I filed her divorce. After the person after my partner

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.719
<v Speaker 2>has gone to California never to be seen or heard

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 2>from again.

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Basically, and how are things going with this person?

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Pretty well? I find that my relationship scars continue to

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 2>come up it once in a while, and uh, and

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 2>you know in terms of like expecting fights when I

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 2>don't need to having habits that I shouldn't have because

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm dealing with someone who was abusive. But you know,

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 2>together we're we're we're doing okay. And I think, you know,

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>they also are very understanding. I've also told them the

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 2>whole story and they completely understand it. You know, oftentimes

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 2>they were much in my corner two with you know,

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 2>what's going on, and I try to make sure that

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>they're aware of what's happen. And it's also helped me understand,

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's what I'm going to normal or at

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 2>least do you do you see my behavior as at

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 2>least reasonable host what I'm going through. Most of the time,

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I just get a long stare. I'm like, yeah, you're

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 2>doing okay. But you know, the constant questioning is a thing.

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, m hm hm hm.

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Hmmm. You're asking Gecko how to be a human? What

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>is that? What is? What does what does that mean?

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>To you? Like I'm trying like if and I don't

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>know how much of what you I don't know how

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>much of that is is is tongue in cheek, But

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 1>what is what is that journey of I am trying

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>to be a human? What is that? What does that mean?

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>I am very much convinced the only thing that I

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 2>don't have the ability to ever know while alive is

0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 2>what it means to be alive. Like, I don't know

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>WHATSS is. I have no idea what it is, how

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>it defines me. I just know I'm here and I'm

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 2>experiencing it.

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so yes, I've been told.

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 2>And I've read and I've lived as much as I have,

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 2>and basically everyone says, well, everyone's got their own place

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>in the universe. So you know, maybe if I can

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>constrain down what I need to worry about to just

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>like the human stuff, maybe that'll make me okay on

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 2>the long run. Like if I don't have to hear

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 2>about the metaphysical stuff and the space travel and all

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 2>the other things I like, I just worry about the

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>eating and the breathing and the other life stuff, maybe

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll have an easier time. And you know, I'm an experimenter,

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 2>so I like reaching out to whatever and anything I've

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>can find, and that includes I guess interspecies communication.

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.959
<v Speaker 1>It is funny. We're actually engaging in a form of

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>interspecies communication right now.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>That's true, true.

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>So I actually I get you on a lot of

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>what you just said. Of yet you can literally this

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>has literally just been my my arc for the year

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>is that you can absolutely lose your you can endlessly

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>lose yourself in pondering over the metaphysical and pondering over

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>consciousness and those things and people, many people throughout the

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>history of existence have get this. Spent their entire lives.

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have personal lives, they didn't have Many people

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>have spent and to this day, spend their entire lives

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 1>prodding at those questions professionally and writing about them and

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>exploring them and reading about They spend their whole lives.

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, they never come out with an answer.

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>They never there's the ever come out with an answer.

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they ever will. I don't know,

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>if I don't know, if you know, humans came up

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of answers. We came up with, like

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, we we get to tell the story of evolution.

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>We get to tell a lot of stories. There's a

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of things that we don't have answers to like

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>like what you're saying, like the metaphysical, the consciousness stuff,

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that stuff is gonna be answered by beings more conscious

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>than us than we that we can't understand. Maybe it's

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>the fucking AI supercomputer ship that is gonna answer. Maybe

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>it's that and we but it's not. It's not gonna

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>be us. We've determined it's not a and but we

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>got to answer a lot of questions. We got to

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>do a lot, we got to answer. We got to

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>we like like, I was watching some fucking YouTube video

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>about evolution and this guy's like, this guy's like really

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>understanding his place in the universe as a human, and

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>he's like, whoa, it's so cool all this shit happened,

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and we are the species that gets to tell they

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to tell the story and and all the metaphysical stuff.

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely just think we're not you know, our species

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and whatever our consciousness is. I don't think we're gonna

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>be the ones to answer those questions. It's probably gonna

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>be like, uh, you know, whatever, the whatever chat GPT

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>looks like in a thousand years is gonna have answers

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>to those questions, but not not us. So so listen.

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>If it's so fascinating to you and so cool to

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:38.359
<v Speaker 1>you and pulls you in its direction to think about

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>these things, and you feel honored as a human and

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>as a conscious being to be pulled in those directions,

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>and you're being pulled in those directions from places of

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>love and from positive emotions, then it's a great it's

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>a great place to be pulled. But if you're being

0:34:53.680 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>pulled to them by OCD and fear and uh, oh god,

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I need to have an answer to these things or

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 1>else I'm not gonna be okay. You're you're, you're running

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a fool's Errand because there's no you, you, you must

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>accept that your your, your consciousness in its current form

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:17.240
<v Speaker 1>and its current biological state, ain't getting there. Many people

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>tried forever and they never got there, and they never

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>will get there because it's impossible. It's beyond us. And

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 1>so again, if you're being pulled in those directions from

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>a positive place, from a place of love, it's great,

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it's an honor. But if you're being pulled at them

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>from a place of fear and anxiety, it's like you're you're,

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you're chasing a fucking dragon. You know you're never gonna

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 1>get there, so so accept that and then be like,

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 1>uh uh, I'm gonna explore these things from positive place

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and then focus on the human side of your life,

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 1>which is connecting with other people and eating food and

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and and drink water and playing fucking Pokemon.

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll tell you. I I I'm unfortunately have to

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 2>go now. But I rarely want to say that. That

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 2>perspective you said about it's so I guess respectively, it's

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 2>it's okay that you know I'm not going to figure

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>out the hard stuff is a perspective I wasn't ready

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 2>to hear, and I'm happy to hear it, which it

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 2>wasn't great, I'm happy. So so listen. I let thank

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 2>you very much to you and group to letting me

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 2>just go on for a while. I feel mentally better

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 2>for having chatted with anybody about it, and again, just

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 2>thank you for your time. And I hope you and

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 2>the viewers and anyone else listening have have a wonderful

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 2>everything else they have.

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>So thanks, thank thank you very much. Having good luck

0:36:52.080 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>to you man. Cheers, Okay, take care, take care Ivan. Damn.

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I like that guy a lot that I was cool. Yeah,

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>like I was cool. I I I hope, I don't know,

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I hope, I hope. I hope he is he lands

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>in good directions, uh for himself and figures figures some

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 1>of this ship out. Yeah, I know I clicked on.

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I clicked on what he was talking about with like

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>the obsession over the metaphysical ship because whatever, everyone, I

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>don't shut up about my existential crisis on this podcast,

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.359
<v Speaker 1>but that's a lot of what it was about. And

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I even expressing that, even like I even talking to him,

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>just now expressing that. I like, I like, like, in

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>this moment that I'm recording this ship, it's clicking to

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:54.839
<v Speaker 1>me that that's the fucking that was that Like that,

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>that's the sauce, right there is. I was obsessed with

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>those things on a you know, a from a fear

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>based state, you know, looking trying to like calm anxiety

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>by finding by looking for something that doesn't exist. But

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you can't do that because it doesn't exist. So yeah, uh,

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>what what else? Pokemon? Pokemon are good, They're cool. I

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>feel you know, I feel I feel bad for Ivan,

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to throw pity at him because

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he's just smart, do I say, Adam, I

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>know his name is Ivan. Phil. I don't want to

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>throw pitt pity at Ivan because I know he's a

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 1>smart guy and I and I think he'll I think

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>he'll persevere in some way. It's hard. It's hard if

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you're a smart guy like that to find other people

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to connect with. But he's got a lady in his life,

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I think from what he said, Yeah, I don't know.

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>That's a tough one. But I really enjoyed having that conversation. Hello, Hey,

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>what's up man? What's your name? Aiden?

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:24.800
<v Speaker 3>This is the therapy gyek Oh.

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, this is yeah, dude, we've never spoken before,

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 1>have we. No?

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 3>No, I've been a big fan of you for years. Man,

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 3>it lives for a while.

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Oka. Guess that's so cool. You know what's funny is

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I I gotta I gotta be so honest with you, Aiden,

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>I this is just an expression of my life arc is.

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I think I only I think I only started to

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>be I only think I think I only started to

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>be able to enjoy this whole thing recently. I think

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I was. I think for most of it, I was

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>so caught up in the stress of it that I

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>couldn't like really sit and enjoy it, and only and

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 1>recently I've I've been just like, oh, this is a

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.879
<v Speaker 1>cool thing to exist in, you know, because when you're

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>like trying to i don't know, like build something up,

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 1>stressful and you're you're in the moment of it too

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 1>much and so you can and you can't really enjoy it.

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>But lately I'm enjoying it, Like in this, I'm like, oh,

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 1>this is so cool that to have, especially yeah, after

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>five years, to have someone listening for for that long. Anyway,

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm I'm I'm really I'm really sucking myself

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>off right now. So I'm gonna I'm gonna no, I'm

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 1>sucking myself off. I'm sorry. I take back everything I said.

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I I I yeah, I'm sucking myself off. What's up

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>with you?

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Aiden?

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:50.840
<v Speaker 1>How's life?

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty good?

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh that is a bit weird right now. So I

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 3>just graduated last year and until he's like, I think, yeah,

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 3>last year. I'm kind of like in between trying to

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 3>figure out stuff in my life and stuff with jobs

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 3>and just personal life, trying to fit into everything that's new.

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I guess.

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>What's new?

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:14.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, I just started working with my dad. So I

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 3>used to work at Starbucks and I worked there for

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 3>a while. But then my dad he does like this

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 3>den repair thing, and so he needed help with the

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 3>business because my cousin originally worked with him, but he

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 3>went to a different state to start working somewhere else,

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 3>and so I'm now working with him, and so it's

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.320
<v Speaker 3>a whole There were different schedules that used to be

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 3>only like night shift and stuff like that. So waking

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 3>up early in the morning, it's nothing I'm not used to.

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 3>But also just being on the heat a lot more.

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 3>And I live in a desert, so it's like a

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 3>hundred degrees especially in the summer.

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 2>This is real hot out here.

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>What are you in Arizona?

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 3>No, No, I'm a I'm in a Vegas.

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, okay, So what's your dad's business that you

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:54.280
<v Speaker 1>work for him doing?

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, so he does like painless den repair. He

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:00.240
<v Speaker 3>works to like a couple of the rental companies out here.

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 1>And before that, you were at Starbucks.

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, before that was we're going at Starbucks. My

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:09.839
<v Speaker 3>buddy he got a job at Starves and he got

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 3>me the job there.

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, which is fun.

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Probably the most social job I've had in a while. Now,

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:15.799
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of more We're just trying to figure out

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 3>what to do with myself because I enjoy what I'm

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:20.399
<v Speaker 3>doing working here, but outside of this, I'm not really

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 3>doing anything. I'm kind of still trying to figure out

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 3>what I want to do a long term.

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:25.280
<v Speaker 2>I guess what.

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I what have you been What have you been thinking

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 1>about in your thinking? What have you been leaning towards?

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Man, There's a few things here and there I've been

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 3>thinking about. Like, I know, private investigation is sometimes been

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 3>interested into looking for, but I'm not one hundred percent sure.

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>You want to do you want to become a private investigator?

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's always seem like a something I would probably

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 3>enjoy doing. I think I don't just seem cool. I

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 3>guess I don't know. I don't really have an exact

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 3>go online.

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Why do I feel? I feel like Vegas is ripe

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 1>with like private and investigators that like that, like investigate

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 1>whether or not like guys are cheating on their wives

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:08.240
<v Speaker 1>with strippers and ship.

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Most likely honestly like people. The fact that people get

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 3>married out here is kind of crazy to you to

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 3>go with it.

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you go why don't you apprentice, Why don't

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you go find a private investigator? That would be sick man. Yeah,

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what you should do. That would be so cool. Yeah,

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>you should go to find a private investigator in Vegas.

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.879
<v Speaker 1>And uh, he's like, so you want to get into

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the PI business? Do you think you're ready? And you

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:34.279
<v Speaker 1>have to submit to him and he may he makes

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you like go fetch him cigarettes and stuff like he

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 1>hazes you. Like that is actually legitimate suggestion, is you

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 1>could go be a pledge for some other some like

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 1>you ever seen Nathan for you?

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Uh no, it doesn't ring a bell.

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:52.399
<v Speaker 1>Like that, Brian wolf guy.

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 3>I think so maybe that could be cool.

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>What do you do? What do you know? What do

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you usually do when you're not painting painting houses? I'm sorry,

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 1>did you say painting houses? Or am I making that up?

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, you're actually kind of you're kind of close in

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 3>the nose. I do paint touch up.

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>On cars, Okay, okay, but yeah, I.

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 3>Just do looking to your recon and all that, which

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 3>is actually what I'm doing right now.

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>What else do you think you might want to do

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>with your life? Aiden?

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.959
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I really don't know. I'm still trying to think

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 3>of ideas and stuff like that, and it doesn't really

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 3>help because I got a little bit of pressure for

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:35.919
<v Speaker 3>my family on it, maybe because stuff like I've thought

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 3>of in the past don't pay that well. And my

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:41.080
<v Speaker 3>parents are very like, oh, if he isn't making more

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 3>than this and that, I don't want you doing it

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 3>and this and that, And they don't mind if I

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:46.759
<v Speaker 3>go or do like They don't mind if I do

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 3>or don't do college or do a trade, just something

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 3>that's going to pay more than what I'm gonna be

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.319
<v Speaker 3>more or what my dad's already making, you know, And

0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 3>he makes a good amount of money, and so it's

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of the pressure almost being like I don't know,

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:03.320
<v Speaker 3>it's not the pressure just being like him, I guess,

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 3>but I don't mind. My dad's an amazing guy, and

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I always strived to be like him as a person,

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 3>but what he does is a lot of hard work,

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know if I'm cut out for it.

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 1>How old are you?

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm about to turn nineteen, like next month.

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 1>All right, cool? Cool? Interesting? What were the things that

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you were saying that you want to do that don't

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:25.760
<v Speaker 1>make a lot of money.

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:32.320
<v Speaker 3>For a while, I always wanted to bartend, but obviously,

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm not twenty one and close to that

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 3>for a little while if they ain't coming to the

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 3>option yet. But I know my parents my fans kind

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 3>of inhaled me by that idea, and maybe we're gonna

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 3>start just kind of scratch at inch of ba. So

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm not really as wanting to you know already the

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 3>drink making all that, and I still don't mind trying

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:49.879
<v Speaker 3>to do that, but I don't know, I just don't

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:51.439
<v Speaker 3>have any big goal ideas yet.

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I love, but you sound like you really enjoy like, uh,

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 1>front facing dream you like you some people, some people

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:02.239
<v Speaker 1>their dream is to to work from home and never

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 1>see another human being ever again. But you sound like

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the opposite, where you're like, I want to be in

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 1>like a front facing social job.

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would be nice. I mean it's because like recently,

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, just recent gaing out high school ast year,

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like not as social or just realizing how

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 3>well me it actually is when you're not doing stuff

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 3>with other people. Like I've been trying to figure out

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 3>that out for myself too, because like out of work,

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:32.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing nothing. I'm like, I go home I'm kind

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:34.839
<v Speaker 3>of I'm just playing video games and sometimes I'll maybe

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 3>hang out with a friend once a week, and so

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:38.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I want to go out and meet people.

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 3>I want to go and do things. But if you're

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 3>not like above twenty one in Vegas, there's not much

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:45.919
<v Speaker 3>to do out here that isn't burning hot.

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I, by the way, I actually think being like,

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 1>oh I want to be a bartender, Like, I think

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:57.640
<v Speaker 1>that choosing your career path based on like what you

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 1>think will put you in physical proximity to the most

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>amount of other people. Is I I genuinely do think

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that is smart. I do think that is smart. I

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 1>get what your parents say though about you know, you

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:15.760
<v Speaker 1>want to do some ship where there is some form

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 1>of like upward mobility so that you can you know,

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, you don't want to be like

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>stuck making ship money for forever and ever.

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's yeah, that's kind of that's a fair point.

0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 1>But but but I it is interesting though, because there

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 1>are and so what you're are you going to go

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to college?

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I think you maybe signing up the community college out here,

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:47.279
<v Speaker 3>but not really for the courses of me maybe trying

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 3>to go to meet people. I think that's just an

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 3>hitch I kind of need to scratch because like I

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.359
<v Speaker 3>don't know, man, maybe because like it's been a while

0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 3>thing that like I've hung out with people like new

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:58.840
<v Speaker 3>people because I don't know. I love my friends, like

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 3>we're all great, but it's just been a while.

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess.

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you have you have reasonable goals. You

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:11.320
<v Speaker 1>want to make money and you want to be around

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:14.840
<v Speaker 1>other people, is what I assume are your goals.

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's kind of a goal. But also the one

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.000
<v Speaker 3>thing I struggles to that goal for me personally is

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 3>just taking that first step for a lot of things,

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.439
<v Speaker 3>because like I'm real lazy on taking that first step

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 3>and just don't end up doing it, or just I

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:28.360
<v Speaker 3>don't know, not knowing how to do it because I

0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:30.400
<v Speaker 3>see people do it so easily, and it's just like

0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:33.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand. Like maybe there's a lot of more

0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:36.360
<v Speaker 3>mental struggle I put myself for I'm thinking, oh, what

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 3>if this does happen, or what if this happens, you know,

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 3>and I break it down way too much, even though

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 3>it could just be done in the second by the

0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 3>time already breaking down.

0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Wait, hold on, what are you spiraling? About like when

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you say you see other people do it easy? What

0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 1>are you talking? What are you talking about?

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 3>Like telling people like like people are taking the first

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:57.720
<v Speaker 3>step to go do something so like something they've always

0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 3>want to do for a while. I feel like I

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 3>got to family members at me, so you know what,

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:03.840
<v Speaker 3>just socide and just go do it. They don't overthink

0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 3>about it, They don't really think about it too much.

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:07.959
<v Speaker 3>They can go ahead and do it, even the fear

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.319
<v Speaker 3>of failure. They know that, but they still go ahead

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:10.799
<v Speaker 3>and do it.

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Give me, give me, give me an example from your life,

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>like what are you what are you scared to go do?

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.479
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, man, maybe it's more scared of making

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 3>direct change, like trying to think. Here, I don't like,

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 3>like you said, already socializing thing. I'm afraid to approach

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 3>people sometimes because I'm not obviously I'm not hundred percent

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 3>sure what the reaction is going to be. And I

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:39.560
<v Speaker 3>don't mind talking like friend and wide. I don't mind that,

0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 3>but it's like talking. I don't have to go talk

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:43.880
<v Speaker 3>to a girl, for example, Like I don't know if

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm ready to even do that first step. I'm nervous

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 3>about that.

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Man. Interesting, Well, I feel like the whole this whole

0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 1>idea of like, yeah, you know, I'm thinking about this

0:49:57.840 --> 0:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>because you the whole idea of like, oh I'm a

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:06.320
<v Speaker 1>to approach. You know, it's more about you're you're focusing

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 1>on like the stress of like one single interaction, where uh,

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the real sauce is attempting to design your life in

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:23.239
<v Speaker 1>such a way that you are naturally in spaces with

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 1>other people repeatedly, which is how you make friends and

0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:32.319
<v Speaker 1>meet girls and do all that shit. So yeah, and

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that's easy when you're in high school because that's just

0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:37.720
<v Speaker 1>naturally done for you. And then when you get older,

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 1>it gets it gets harder. But if you're intentional about it,

0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:44.840
<v Speaker 1>you it's you can do it. And especially because you

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>live do you live like in Vegas proper or you

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 1>like a little bit out on, a.

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Little bit outwards like not exactly in direct Vegas, but

0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:54.359
<v Speaker 3>a little bit hours to the other cities around it.

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 1>You got a car, Yeah, I do.

0:50:57.600 --> 0:50:59.319
<v Speaker 3>You've got a new one recent so my old one

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:01.720
<v Speaker 3>just mean transition went to junk.

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:04.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, okay, all right, so you're clean. I mean,

0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you live in a major city and you have a car,

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and you what you're you just graduated high school, so

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you're a little you're a little in between ship right now.

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that weird in between like figuring out your life

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:24.399
<v Speaker 3>after high school and also just trying to figure out

0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 3>who you are to what you want to do. It's

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 3>that weird in between, I guess.

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, m hm.

0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Hm hmm.

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean there's a lot of there's a lot

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 1>of things like you do you do you what? What

0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 1>do you can say?

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:40.680
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:43.640
<v Speaker 1>For like for the money part, right, for the money part,

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 1>what are you thinking about wanting to do?

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Because there's you could go to fucking trade school, you

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 1>could you could join your dad and painting ship.

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:54.920
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:51:56.480 --> 0:52:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, honestly, money wise, probably joining wound be

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:02.840
<v Speaker 3>the better option because huh, it's a little bit the

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:04.840
<v Speaker 3>hard vest to get into and with someone like my

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:06.960
<v Speaker 3>dad who's been in for a while, I can get

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:08.920
<v Speaker 3>a really good hands on for it. The money why,

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 3>it would be great for me, But I don't know

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 3>if I would really enjoy doing it. But I don't

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 3>know how much can you really enjoy a job, because

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 3>at one point it's gonna get repetitive no matter what

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 3>you do, right, and you're eventually gonna get bored of it.

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Even something you really enjoy, it's gonna feel dull. That's

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 3>what kind of sucks.

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, well, I actually your situation specifically, I got a

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 1>few thoughts on it because you live with your parents

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 1>right now.

0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm live with my parents.

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:42.000
<v Speaker 1>See you gotta see I I'm looking at your situation

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 1>right Okay, so you're not and you're not planning on

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and you can just go right into this and you

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:48.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have to go to college and you don't have

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:49.959
<v Speaker 1>to ac crew a bunch of debt and all that shit.

0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, no, no, at least I'm trying not to

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 3>get into any debt and all that stuff.

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:57.920
<v Speaker 1>So look, I'm just if I I'm gonna lay this out.

0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 1>This is I feel like I'm talking. I feel like

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.360
<v Speaker 1>i'm your dad right now. I don't know why, but

0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I do like I like thinking about this stuff. So

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:09.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm engaged. I'm interested in your life. I like thinking

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:14.279
<v Speaker 1>about these things because all right, okay, all right, I

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:18.680
<v Speaker 1>actually do feel like I'm qualified to ponder this with

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:22.759
<v Speaker 1>you in some way, shape or form, which is that

0:53:22.840 --> 0:53:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you actually have a great situation because it because what

0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:34.959
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people your age do is they go

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to college because it's what everyone told them to do.

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:43.560
<v Speaker 1>And they spend four years and you know, they have

0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 1>fun and you know, maybe party or maybe they don't

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 1>or maybe they you know, it's not that linear of

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>a thing. But you go to college and then you

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:54.920
<v Speaker 1>graduate and oh no, you picked a stupid You graduated

0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 1>in like you got an English degree or something, or

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:01.279
<v Speaker 1>even a degree in like something that you're like a

0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:04.400
<v Speaker 1>marketing degree or something. And you graduate and now you

0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and now you're twenty two years old and you're in

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:13.240
<v Speaker 1>a mountain of debt and you're going into a job

0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:20.239
<v Speaker 1>market that is like so deeply stacked against you, and

0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 1>it's hard, right, but you you have an interest, you

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:26.360
<v Speaker 1>have a new other, you have a different option that

0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:29.120
<v Speaker 1>you could do, which I think is an it's interesting

0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to explore. Now, Look, if you told me, if you

0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 1>were like, I really want to become a doctor. I

0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:35.279
<v Speaker 1>really want to become a lawyer. I really want to

0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm trying to think of other biologists.

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to get into science. If you're telling

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:46.919
<v Speaker 1>me that, if you're telling me those things, then then yeah,

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 1>it's worth it to go to college and get it,

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 1>rack up debt, and do whatever the fuck you're gonna do.

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:54.440
<v Speaker 1>But if you're sitting here like, I got no fucking idea,

0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I just want to be around people and exist. Right,

0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:00.719
<v Speaker 1>you're in a cool position because you could go work

0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:05.400
<v Speaker 1>with your dad for four years and live in your parents'

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 1>house and save and every fucking penny that you make

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 1>from your dad, you can save for four years. Right,

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:17.840
<v Speaker 1>for four years, you can work with your dad and

0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:21.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe whatever whatever, whether or not you like the job. Okay,

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:21.600
<v Speaker 1>what is it?

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:23.799
<v Speaker 1>How along would this job is? Is like a nine to five?

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:25.600
<v Speaker 1>What kind of job? What are the hours? On this phone?

0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:28.759
<v Speaker 3>Kind of like a nine to five? I worked in

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:32.520
<v Speaker 3>like well, like five am to like five pm, like

0:55:32.600 --> 0:55:35.760
<v Speaker 3>five am Friday, Yeah, Monday.

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 1>So twelve twelve hours Monday through Friday.

0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 1>So here's what you could And because you're eighteen, you

0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:45.640
<v Speaker 1>can physically do this. If this is what you want

0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:48.120
<v Speaker 1>to do, you could spend the next Listen, you can

0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:51.800
<v Speaker 1>spend the next four years. You work Monday through Friday

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:55.239
<v Speaker 1>with your dad. You grind it out, okay, and you

0:55:55.320 --> 0:55:57.640
<v Speaker 1>save all working Like what how many hours a week?

0:55:57.719 --> 0:55:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Is that?

0:55:57.920 --> 0:56:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Twelve times five? What's twelve times sixty.

0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's sixty.

0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:10.399
<v Speaker 1>That's sixty, okay, And then you could, dude, you can

0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 1>save spent four years living in your parents' house. You

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:18.880
<v Speaker 1>save all that money, right, you save all that money,

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's what? What's four years? I don't know? What

0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 1>do you? What do? What do you can?

0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I ask?

0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:24.880
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to share if you don't want to.

0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you make with this job?

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:28.879
<v Speaker 2>I make?

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not really per hour, since it's kind of

0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:33.840
<v Speaker 3>more of a family situation, since all right, business, okay,

0:56:33.960 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 3>I make like one hundred.

0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 1>A day, okay, one hundred a day working six, working

0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:44.440
<v Speaker 1>twelve one hundred a day working twelve hours. Yeah, what

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>does that come out to? Hold on?

0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I know, that's five hundred a week, five.

0:56:49.920 --> 0:56:53.239
<v Speaker 1>One hundred dollars. What is it's one hundred divided by

0:56:53.280 --> 0:56:59.080
<v Speaker 1>twelve eight dollars. You gotta you gotta negotiation. You gotta

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:05.680
<v Speaker 1>negotiate that with your dad, my friend, because that's because

0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 1>what what is? What's Nevada minimum wage?

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:12.279
<v Speaker 3>Let me google this, honest, I think it's pretty low.

0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Nevada minimum wage. It's twelve dollars. Okay, your dad's paying

0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 1>you all right. If I were all right, if I

0:57:20.360 --> 0:57:22.160
<v Speaker 1>were you, I would do a couple of things. First,

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:23.920
<v Speaker 1>is you got to negotiate with your dad to pay

0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you at minimum Nevada minimum wage. Yeah, your dad's gotta

0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 1>get you. Got your dad's gotta get you. Uh Nevada

0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 1>minimum wage? Is this your is your dad's business, right?

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's his business?

0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:41.200
<v Speaker 1>All right? Tell your dad. Tell your dad he's got

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to pay you Nevada minimum wage, which is at least

0:57:45.120 --> 0:57:48.040
<v Speaker 1>twelve dollars and what's the federal minimum wage? Fifty fifteen?

0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Now I think st think it's like, oh okay, god damn.

0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:55.240
<v Speaker 1>The federal minimum wage is still seven to twenty five,

0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:57.560
<v Speaker 1>all right, But the Vitta mintum wage twelve dollars an hour.

0:57:57.600 --> 0:57:59.160
<v Speaker 1>So get your dad to give you at least twelve

0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:01.360
<v Speaker 1>dollars an hour, all right. So if that gives you

0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:03.880
<v Speaker 1>twelve dollars an hour and you're working ten hours a week,

0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:06.720
<v Speaker 1>that's what, No, not ten hours a week, I'm an idiot.

0:58:06.840 --> 0:58:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Sixty hours a week, sixty times twelve, all right, So

0:58:12.920 --> 0:58:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you're making like said, al right, So if your dad

0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:16.280
<v Speaker 1>can give you like seven hundred and twenty dollars a week,

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:18.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, if you can negotiate that with your dad.

0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 1>That's an vitta minimum wage.

0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:21.960
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:25.919
<v Speaker 1>What is that times fifty two? All right, it's thirty

0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:29.760
<v Speaker 1>seven thousand dollars a year about before taxes. I have

0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:32.800
<v Speaker 1>no idea what the taxes are on that, but whatever,

0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:35.720
<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, So if you do that for

0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:40.080
<v Speaker 1>four years, okay, what's that? Time's four Okay? Now you

0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:43.160
<v Speaker 1>have okay, one hundred and forty nine Okay, that's one

0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:47.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty nine thousand dollars. Most eighteen year olds,

0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:51.160
<v Speaker 1>over the course of four years go. I don't know

0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:53.160
<v Speaker 1>what the exact numbers are, might be exaggerating, but a

0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of eighteen year olds spend four years going one

0:58:57.200 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty nine thousand dollars into debt and you

0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 1>could live it. You could spend the next four years

0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:09.920
<v Speaker 1>saving up one hundred and forty nine thousand dollars. I

0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:11.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you have to pay taxes on that,

0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and you probably are gonna want to, you know, pay

0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:16.760
<v Speaker 1>for gas and whatever you're gonna you'll have expenses. It's

0:59:16.760 --> 0:59:19.360
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be one hundred and four nine thousand dollars exactly,

0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:21.440
<v Speaker 1>but you might. But dude, bro you could save up.

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm thorrowing, I'm pulling numbers out of thin air.

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:27.600
<v Speaker 1>But you could be you can graduate. You could graduate.

0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:29.240
<v Speaker 1>You could be twenty two years old and you could

0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 1>have seventy thousand dollars saved up. Most people that age

0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:37.880
<v Speaker 1>are like seventy thousand dollars in debt, you know, And

0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:40.439
<v Speaker 1>and get this and get this and get this. What's

0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 1>your name again? Aiden?

0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:50.040
<v Speaker 1>And get this? Aidan? Is is is during that whole time? Okay,

0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you wake up five am and then you work until

0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:57.600
<v Speaker 1>five pm. You have a car, right, mm hmm, you

0:59:57.680 --> 0:59:59.600
<v Speaker 1>could fuck it. What do you like to do, Aidan?

1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, like my free time?

1:00:02.560 --> 1:00:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just in general? What do you like to do?

1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:09.560
<v Speaker 3>I had to play I had to play guitar like hangouts,

1:00:09.560 --> 1:00:15.400
<v Speaker 3>friends play video games or play guitar. Yeah, I used

1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:15.960
<v Speaker 3>to play a lot.

1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:19.280
<v Speaker 1>But you could see you what you could do? You

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<v Speaker 1>could and then okay, five pm? Right, for the next

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<v Speaker 1>four years, you get off at five pm and you

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<v Speaker 1>just start going to local like you're not big concerts

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<v Speaker 1>that cost a bunch of money, but you could just

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<v Speaker 1>get you could dive into the local Nevada. What kind

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<v Speaker 1>of music do.

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<v Speaker 3>You like I'm I'm a big fan of indie music.

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<v Speaker 1>You like any music, you, I guarant fucking tee you

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<v Speaker 1>that all around the all around Vegas, in the suburbs

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. I guarantee you all around Vegas. There are

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of indie local music shows going around at shit

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<v Speaker 1>ass dive bars that are like fifteen dollars admission. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you could spend. You could spend every night of your

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<v Speaker 1>you spend every day of your life for the next

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<v Speaker 1>four years. You go into work, okay, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>get off at five pm, and then you drive to

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<v Speaker 1>a local indie concert and you pay fifteen bucks okay,

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<v Speaker 1>or and you you whatever gas costs. It's pretty low expenses.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you get involved in the local indie music scene.

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<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden, after like one year,

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<v Speaker 1>you start showing You show up at these concerts, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have now you have and you're like, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up, man, I've seen you before. Oh hey, oh

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe there's some girl. And it's like, oh hey,

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<v Speaker 1>i've seen you before, you know, and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you have all of a sudden, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, because you keep showing up, you start to

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<v Speaker 1>see the same people around the same concerts. Okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then now you have a little community. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you fucking and the whole time you're living

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<v Speaker 1>in your parents' basement. You're not paying for rent, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not paying for a walk, you're not paying for any

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<v Speaker 1>of this fucking shit. Okay, And you're saving up all

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<v Speaker 1>the money you're spending money on like food, and we

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<v Speaker 1>go into these indie shows, and you know, you take

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<v Speaker 1>a girl out to Chipotle every now and then. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then and now you've spent now four years, now

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<v Speaker 1>you graduate, Okay, Now, now you're twenty two, and picture

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<v Speaker 1>this you have Okay, you made one hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine thousand dollars from your dad over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>four years. Again, most people are spending that going into debt. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you have one hundred. Now you have seventy grand. Let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm just gonna say that because you

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<v Speaker 1>saved it, because you saved up and you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a degree, But you have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work experience, You've met a lot of people from

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<v Speaker 1>the indie music scene. You have no idea what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of career opportunities could come from that. Someone could be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>hey I need an audio engineer to fucking do this

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<v Speaker 1>whatever fucking thing, or hey, my band is going on

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<v Speaker 1>tour and we need a roady to go. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's tons of opportunities to do that. You're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>meeting people, I'm sure through working for your dad. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities could come through that. And you have seventy thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars of a safety net in case if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go start your own business, or if you do

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<v Speaker 1>decide you want to go to a trade school or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole and you didn't have to just spend

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<v Speaker 1>the whole four years doing nothing with your life. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have you, You'll you'll have a you'll have a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful Wednesday where you got you. You're working all day

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<v Speaker 1>and then at night you go out to this local

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<v Speaker 1>indie concert whatever. Maybe you meet some people, maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>guys go out for you. Still you still live in

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<v Speaker 1>your life the whole the whole time, You're still living

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<v Speaker 1>cool young guy life. It's this is this that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is me just getting excited about that's what. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I view your situation is you're this is

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<v Speaker 1>perfect because you get to save money and you still

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<v Speaker 1>get to live cool young guy life. You know, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're because you're lucky enough.

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<v Speaker 3>That a great way of looking at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're lucky enough that you had not everyone has.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was lucky too. I'm lucky. I have

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<v Speaker 1>parents that let me fucking live in their in their

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<v Speaker 1>house after college. If you're like, if you're lucky enough

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<v Speaker 1>to have that, god damn, take advantage of it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're lucky enough to have a dad who's willing to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, set you up in the thing, and the

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<v Speaker 1>parents that'll let you hang out in their house. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>take you take advantage of that. You can live a

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<v Speaker 1>cool life over the next four years, save a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of money, and make a bunch of friends. And uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been going on a ramp. But that's that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I would do. That's my advice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I honestly, i'most take your advice and the whole

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<v Speaker 3>tire because that's all. It's both my issues. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>it was meeting people and trying to figure out what

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<v Speaker 3>to do long term.

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<v Speaker 1>Right because well cause it's because you can have both.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you go work for your dad, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're nineteen years old, you can work for twelve hours

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<v Speaker 1>a day and then go out and party afterwards, because

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<v Speaker 1>you bought your body can take it. So so you

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<v Speaker 1>so that you have your job for twelve hours a day.

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<v Speaker 1>That solves your money issues, and then you have some

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<v Speaker 1>form then and then on top of that, you find

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<v Speaker 1>some form of community in the major city that you

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<v Speaker 1>live in and just keep showing up to that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that fills up both of your your things and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then some people might be like, well, if

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get a degree, then how's he gonna well

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<v Speaker 1>long term, you're twenty If again, if you have having

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<v Speaker 1>I genuinely think I genuinely believe having no debt and

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<v Speaker 1>a shit ton of money saved up and no degree

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<v Speaker 1>is so much better than graduating from college with a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of debt and like a ship marketing degree. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's just this is what I believe. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>different if you were like again, it'd be different if

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<v Speaker 1>you were like a lawyer or a doctor or some

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<v Speaker 1>ship and you needed to do it. But anyway, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I think about your life. Thanks for letting me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on. I'm a I'm on a lot of I

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<v Speaker 1>upped my vibeance dosage a little bit. So you called

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<v Speaker 1>it a perfect time to rant about these things.

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed it. Man, that was a that alos a

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<v Speaker 3>great advice SPECIFIC had in a while. Run situation. I

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<v Speaker 3>think might really start doing that cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, let me know if Yeah, you got you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta play hardball with your daddy though, you gotta, you gotta,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta tell you here's what you should here's what

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<v Speaker 1>you can do. You can actually work for him for

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bit, and then tell him that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>report him to the labor board. No, don't report your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't report don't don't report your dad to the labor board.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't report your dad to the labor board. But uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just asking me if he can pay you minimum wage?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, as I guess I should have that talk

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<v Speaker 3>with him though about figuring out the paying a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess. I mean maybe it's more of just like

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<v Speaker 3>any figure, because there is another thing he wants to

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<v Speaker 3>try to teach me, which is what exactly he does.

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<v Speaker 3>What I'm doing now a little bit different. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>helping him. But he wants to teach him what he's

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<v Speaker 3>actually doing, which would make me a lot more money

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<v Speaker 3>in the future that was taking like a year or

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<v Speaker 3>two actually practicing getting it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. See, Yeah, I understand the thing of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do a job that I like doing,

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<v Speaker 1>but and you and you that could absolutely be in

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<v Speaker 1>your future. But again but right but for right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because you just graduated fucking high school. It's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can get your money up and get your community up.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a perfect opportunity for that ship. And if

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<v Speaker 1>your dad's teaching you how to do shit in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're still what am I about to say,

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<v Speaker 1>You're still doing something that's like could compound over long term.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, playing for the future, I guess, and making long

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<v Speaker 3>term money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then and again the stuff that you end

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<v Speaker 1>up whatever it is that you decide you want to

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<v Speaker 1>end up doing at night. I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 1>is the local concert thing, but I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to you know, I mean when I was eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to like Super Smash Brothers tournaments at night.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that compounds to do a community. You end

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<v Speaker 1>up you meet people, yea, you meet people. Then that

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<v Speaker 1>leads you to opportunities you wouldn't have uh known about before.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, yeah, I'm I'm excited for you. You could have

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<v Speaker 1>a next you could have a cool next four years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a great idea that I was, like, gets

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<v Speaker 3>perspective log of what I should do a bit more

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<v Speaker 3>of my decision making. So I guess I probably should

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<v Speaker 3>have fallen working with my dad a bit, letting him

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<v Speaker 3>teach me a lot more things.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, aiden, Oh god, Aiden, Oh my god. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I'm I'm uh, I'm doing excellence. I'm doing excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how You know who Gary Vee is?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so he's definitely on He's he's probably on

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't do you think he's on adderall. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be, uh, honestly, maybe he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about cocaine. People say he's on cocaine,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's got to be on a lot of stimulants.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably. I think adderall might be one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And is there anything else? Who I say the people

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<v Speaker 1>of the computer before we.

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<v Speaker 3>Go, Am I able to say a few random words

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<v Speaker 3>of wisdom?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>You say whatever you want, honestly, make sure to love

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<v Speaker 3>yourself before you love another. So that's all I gotta say.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful by Aiden, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a great day, Gag. Thanks for the advice.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked. I like that guy. I liked Adan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm very Folks who listen to this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast have heard me talk about like film school and

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<v Speaker 1>shit before. I don't know. If you're yeah, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a position like that where yeah, like you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you're lucky enough that you have like

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of stable home situation where you can live

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<v Speaker 1>at home. Uh, and like you know, people aren't fucking

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<v Speaker 1>like screaming at each other all the time or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Oh my god, take advantage of that. Shit. Hello, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>is are You? Are you running right now?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I uh I was hitting some curls.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, yeah, what I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Think you call it? What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Bro? No, that's all right, that's all right. Are you uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Are?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I can talk to you, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna breathe into the into the microphone the whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like, literally, I'm working out with my buddies.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like doing some heavy curls and I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to him and then you called. I was like, oh, shoot, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>the get's coming.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta go.

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<v Speaker 1>I have nothing else to say, goes on the line,

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<v Speaker 1>taking calls every night, Goes to his He's teaching you

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<v Speaker 1>aloud in the line's exper