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Speaker 1: Hi, who is this.

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Speaker 2: My name is Ivan, and thanks for taking my call there.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Ivan, you're so man, you're so polite.

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Speaker 2: No, I get that a lot. It's most awkwardness, but

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You get this a lot, You get a lot that

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Speaker 1: you're polite.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would certainly say.

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Speaker 1: So tell me more about that. Why do you think

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Speaker 1: you're so polite?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Oh? Man, Well, I can go through the years

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Speaker 2: of therapy. But it's it's probably like a that's mechanism saying.

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Speaker 2: It's like a way to see not off putting, but

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Speaker 2: also kind of show the people, Hey, I'm a cool dude.

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Speaker 2: You can talk to me. I won't, you know, be

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Speaker 2: too terribly weird, you know, one of those sorts of

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Speaker 2: things interesting.

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Speaker 1: Interesting the way you phrase it, is it like, is

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Speaker 1: this a way of being that you have designed and

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Speaker 1: perfected or is it just something that came naturally to you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's absolutely a mask that has been perfected over

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Speaker 2: the years. That is without question. I'd say it's probably

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Speaker 2: not too fake of a mask. It's more like a

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Speaker 2: defense mechanism thing where it allows me to kind of

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Speaker 2: be friends with people that I meet in life and

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Speaker 2: I don't know I guess it's just always worked for me,

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Speaker 2: so I kind of stick with it and I kind

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Speaker 2: of like it in some ways. Some ways, by the ways,

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Speaker 2: that's not so great, but I think in most ways

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Speaker 2: it's Okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't know if this is rude to ask, Okay,

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Speaker 1: go for it. Do you have Do you have autism?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that about myself, although I've asked

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Speaker 2: a lot and no one's in my therapy history like

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Speaker 2: made that diagnosis. If I am, and I do believe

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Speaker 2: I'm somewhere on the spectrum, it would be like probably

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Speaker 2: some form of high functioning thing. And if it's anything

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Speaker 2: deeper than that, it's probably something like, you know, verbal

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Speaker 2: communication is my thing, where like I hyper fixate on

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Speaker 2: how a much speaking, what I'm talking about, all this

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Speaker 2: other thing, you know, hyper aware how people are talking

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Speaker 2: to me, and basically all the typical queue based stuff.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'd say it's probably not too far Interuth.

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Speaker 1: Well, because I know that they were talking about you.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you watch do you watch the rehearsal

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Speaker 1: by Nathan Fielder? No, But I'm interested, okay, because they

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Speaker 1: talk about masking, they talk about autism on that show

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Speaker 1: and they talk about masking, and I know that that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's It's been brought up in past conversations

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Speaker 2: with you know, therapists I've had where I talk about that,

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Speaker 2: and the way it kind of comes back is, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it really depends on what era of my life, but

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Speaker 2: most of it has been like, hey, you know, you're

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Speaker 2: sort of trying to protect yourself while also trying to

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Speaker 2: be you know, the person you say you're trying to be,

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Speaker 2: which is difficult to deny yourself, to hold yourself to

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Speaker 2: it's like anxiety induced but also like a seeming effective strategy.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's weird. I don't know, I just know

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm a little kooky, and most people seem

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Speaker 1: Is is that exult like masking? And do you do

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Speaker 1: you feel like you're performing? Do you feel like you're

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Speaker 1: like having to put effort into existing in in an

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Speaker 1: intentional way?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, definitely, if I mean I can be a

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Speaker 2: of the one of my little weird quirks is I'm

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Speaker 2: constantly talking to myself in very strange situations. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm taking a shower, I'm walking down the road. I'm

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Speaker 2: constantly rehearsing conversations in my head with imaginary people or

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it can be opposite, depending on like the people

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Speaker 1: Bro, you absolutely have to watch the rehearsal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm I'm opening up the Googles.

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Speaker 1: Now, do you know do you know who Nathan Fielder is?

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Speaker 1: If you ever heard of Nathan for you, I.

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Speaker 2: I haven't, and I'm pretty sure I need to. I

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Speaker 2: don't know things about the modern world I've been under

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Speaker 2: for basically all my life. So I'm happy to th

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, now you should, you should. You should watch

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Speaker 1: the rehearsal. It's well, it's extremely funny, but be maybe

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Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, okay, So that's what I was gonna

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Speaker 1: ask you, is it's like that way of being where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I'll tell you a part that I

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Speaker 2: it becomes almost a bit of a resentment sometimes, which

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Speaker 2: feeling like it's returned, well, there's you know, there's the exhaustion.

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Speaker 2: There's that you know, sort of feeling of, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: why aren't you trying in the same way I seem

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Speaker 1: M m hmmm. So that does that make you feel resentment?

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Speaker 1: It makes you feel Okay, So you're having a conversation

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Speaker 1: that leads you to resent that person, is what you're.

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Speaker 2: Saying in a weird way. Yeah, and maybe it resents

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Speaker 2: you know, I guess some of my closest friends that

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Speaker 2: tell you why I tend to have I've had very few,

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Speaker 2: it's very admitted. In fact now is it's kind of

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Speaker 2: just I'm probably at the least number of personal connections

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Speaker 1: I guess I was actually about to say, I don't

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Speaker 1: no matter who you are, it's really really hard to

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think. I don't know if that

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Speaker 2: You're experiences weird. Yeah, I know it's because it's not.

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Speaker 1: That's no, it's not a weird thing, especially because you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I I mean the longest friendship I've had

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Speaker 2: I basically push that person away. And you know, it's

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Speaker 2: establish a connection and and talk, but it's it is

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Speaker 2: very difficult because there's the connection to part of like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: well the person I am now the person that I was,

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Speaker 2: is it worth it. There's a fear to that. It's

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Speaker 2: a silly fear. I know, but I do miss having

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Speaker 2: knowing that, hey, I am, in fact in a populace

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Speaker 2: of other humans are doing the exact same thing, and

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Speaker 2: get goes. I suppose it's not too it's not too bad.

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Speaker 2: It's good to them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you said you specifically wanted to call in

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Speaker 1: to talk about this. Uh, I wanted to let you

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Speaker 1: speak your piece for a second, like what, yeah, what

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Speaker 1: exactly tell me like of the situation that you find

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's it's not too complicated, but it takes a

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Speaker 2: little bit of context. So if I go too long,

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Speaker 2: please just let me know.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: So the context is, you know, I mentioned I met

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Speaker 2: my friend. He was my friend until I was you know,

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Speaker 2: And from your first response it sounded like, yeah, kind

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Speaker 1: Well, a few things. One is you said, I you

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Speaker 2: Fuck?

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Speaker 1: What did you say I'm polite and willing to talk

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Speaker 1: First of all, human beings are immensely dynamic, so you

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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, I mean your parents taking your shit

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Speaker 2: Everything from the very first base sets and miss prints.

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Speaker 1: No, I think I think that's so fucked. I think

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Speaker 1: you know what it's here the thing, right, if they

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Speaker 1: just you know, they're old, and they're like, uh, oh,

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Speaker 1: Right if it was like if it was like that,

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Speaker 1: that would still piss me off on your behalf. If

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Speaker 1: that's like willful fucked up nicks. You know it.

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Speaker 2: like you mentioned that, you know, when I was young

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Speaker 2: And I don't. I don't, and and I recognized it.

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Speaker 2: it it It both feels good to hear someone else going, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I'm no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no at all. What's your name again? What's your

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Speaker 1: Ivan?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Mmm?

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Speaker 1: Do you just you fucking you just you just spit, bro,

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Speaker 1: right just now?

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00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 2: That was?

433
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 1: That was? That was powerful. I'm I'm being that serious

434
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: because when you the way you said that, you were

435
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: like fuck sheet like that that that really it breaks

436
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: my heart man, Like when you were like, oh, she

437
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: knew that she could she could sell those cars because

438
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: she knew that I wouldn't put up a fight about it.

439
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: Quite really hurt when I've realized it hurt. So yeah,

440
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I don't know that. That's just my

441
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 2: story in that now, I guess.

442
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: I then, oh, man, I know you got to go

443
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: back to work soon. But what what else? What else

444
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: is going on in your in your life? I'm invested

445
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: in your art, I'm invested in your development. I'm I'm like,

446
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's because you're yeah, man, well yeah, what's

447
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: going on? What else is going on in your in

448
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: your universe here?

449
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: All right? Well I mentioned the divorce that's also been

450
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: weighing very heavily because uh got it. It's mentioned in ARC.

451
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, I thought back, like, it's

452
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 2: been this three years. What feels like is just un

453
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: ending BS. So okay, super long story as short as

454
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: they can make it. Three years ago the partner that

455
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,479
Speaker 2: I'm divorcing from now and I decided to leave who

456
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: we were living in California and live on the road

457
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: and a trailer thirty five up the trailer pickup truck,

458
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: you know, driving around state state, living in the trailer

459
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: full time. I'm a software developer. Yeah we'll get there,

460
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: but living so software developer and I could work remotely

461
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: and do my thing. But when when you already have

462
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: problems in a relationship and then you put them in

463
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 2: a smaller box and you see that person even more

464
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 2: often with even less ability to have personal space or

465
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 2: work on problems, and the person you're with is already

466
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: sort of spiraling, it makes things worse. And I realized

467
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: in those almost two years that things weren't working. Constantly screaming, fighting, yelling,

468
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 2: all sorts of terrible stuff. And I snapped multiple times

469
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: mentally in terms of, you know, just screaming in a

470
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: Walmart parking lot, yelling at nothing because as my only outlet.

471
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: So that'll happen over the course of two years. And

472
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 2: I found myself in Yankton, South Dakota because of some

473
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: other nonsense not even worth just just just not more nonsense,

474
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: South Dakota with my partner at the time, and filed

475
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: for divorce because she was I was paying for her

476
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: to live in a hotel for months at that point,

477
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: I was also staying in a hotel. We swapped off

478
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: back and forth in the list. This is not a

479
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: relationship that I can I want to be a partner

480
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: of her try to fix anymore. So filed for divorce

481
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: and that was two years ago, and through three separate lawyers,

482
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: two of which had completely failed to life, remain in

483
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: contact with me, and just disordered to go. I didn't

484
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: know it was a thing, but you could totally be

485
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: ghosted by a lawyer and there's not much you can

486
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: do about it. If the lawyer just start stops, decided

487
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: to talk to you your own choices to get another

488
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 2: lawyer turns out, and so you know, I'm constantly fighting this.

489
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 2: You know, this this partner of mine who I fught

490
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: to mention this. But when I was still in South

491
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: Dakota and she was living in the hotel for a

492
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 2: while when I served with when she was served with

493
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: the papers a few days later, I found out she

494
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: called a friend of hers from California, who then flew

495
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: to Yankton. She showed up at the trailer's door that Saturday,

496
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 2: collected all their things, and decided to drive with this person,

497
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: drive with the truck that pulled the trailer to California,

498
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: effectively stranding me, stranding me in the state. And I

499
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 2: had you know, that's a whole nother story. But so

500
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: this is the kind of person, you know who makes

501
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: these sort of decisions. But the reason that card story

502
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: came up is because when I was dealing with being

503
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: stranded there and trying to go to therapy and trying

504
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: to find some something to stick to, I found a

505
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: friendly local game store. And in the family local game store,

506
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: you know, just owned by a few friends and parents

507
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 2: of that I met them at the time, but just

508
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: incredibly welcoming, incredibly caring people. You know, and you mentioned

509
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: how how rare it is to find someone to connect with.

510
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: It is amazing you said that, because it's exactly what

511
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 2: I found. I found a friend who I'll keep his

512
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 2: name because I don't want to, you know, I don't

513
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: want to assume these He's okay with being talked about.

514
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: But I've already mentioned the city and states of oops.

515
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: But the idea is I very much connected with these people,

516
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: and one person in particular was an incredible, incredible boon

517
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: to my life. And uh, it was because of that

518
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: that I called my parents and said about the thing,

519
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: realized the cards, and you know, I was doing okay

520
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: because I had them in my life. But since then,

521
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: I've moved on from the state to another states because

522
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 2: I couldn't, you know, being in the same trailer at

523
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: the same spot for a year and a half after

524
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: seeking divorce was like, I can't stay here anymore. So

525
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: I moved now in Minnesota for a little while.

526
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: But I mean, that's that's.

527
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: Like as short as I can make the last few

528
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: years and a bunch of weird stuff, but it's it's

529
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: why I'm calling anybody who will listen. Is because you know,

530
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: I have all these weird things. It's very hard to

531
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: find someone who has a similar lifestyle that could relate,

532
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: or who even wants to listen. And you know, it's

533
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: so strange. Sometimes it sounds completely unreal. It does to me,

534
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: and I I don't know. I'm I'm the kind of

535
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: person that needs data points to kind of figure out

536
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: who and what I'm doing and why. So that's that's

537
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 2: kind of where I am now. I'm in Minnesota asking

538
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: a gecko how the heck I be a human? So that.

539
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, if I just want to make sure I'm

540
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: understanding the current. Do you do not still live in

541
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: a trailer? No?

542
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: No, I I moved out of the trailer and I'm

543
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: actually currently living with someone else now, which is also

544
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: part of the difficulty.

545
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: Person a romantic someone else.

546
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's romantic. And just to be completely transparent and open,

547
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: you know, I met this person many many months after

548
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: I filed her divorce. After the person after my partner

549
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 2: has gone to California never to be seen or heard

550
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: from again.

551
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: Basically, and how are things going with this person?

552
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: Pretty well? I find that my relationship scars continue to

553
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: come up it once in a while, and uh, and

554
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: you know in terms of like expecting fights when I

555
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: don't need to having habits that I shouldn't have because

556
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with someone who was abusive. But you know,

557
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: together we're we're we're doing okay. And I think, you know,

558
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: they also are very understanding. I've also told them the

559
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: whole story and they completely understand it. You know, oftentimes

560
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: they were much in my corner two with you know,

561
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: what's going on, and I try to make sure that

562
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: they're aware of what's happen. And it's also helped me understand,

563
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: you know, it's what I'm going to normal or at

564
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: least do you do you see my behavior as at

565
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: least reasonable host what I'm going through. Most of the time,

566
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: I just get a long stare. I'm like, yeah, you're

567
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: doing okay. But you know, the constant questioning is a thing.

568
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, m hm hm hm.

569
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: Hmmm. You're asking Gecko how to be a human? What

570
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: is that? What is? What does what does that mean?

571
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: To you? Like I'm trying like if and I don't

572
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: know how much of what you I don't know how

573
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: much of that is is is tongue in cheek, But

574
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: what is what is that journey of I am trying

575
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: to be a human? What is that? What does that mean?

576
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: I am very much convinced the only thing that I

577
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: don't have the ability to ever know while alive is

578
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: what it means to be alive. Like, I don't know

579
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: WHATSS is. I have no idea what it is, how

580
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: it defines me. I just know I'm here and I'm

581
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: experiencing it.

582
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: Yes, so yes, I've been told.

583
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: And I've read and I've lived as much as I have,

584
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: and basically everyone says, well, everyone's got their own place

585
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: in the universe. So you know, maybe if I can

586
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: constrain down what I need to worry about to just

587
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: like the human stuff, maybe that'll make me okay on

588
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: the long run. Like if I don't have to hear

589
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: about the metaphysical stuff and the space travel and all

590
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: the other things I like, I just worry about the

591
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: eating and the breathing and the other life stuff, maybe

592
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: I'll have an easier time. And you know, I'm an experimenter,

593
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: so I like reaching out to whatever and anything I've

594
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: can find, and that includes I guess interspecies communication.

595
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: It is funny. We're actually engaging in a form of

596
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: interspecies communication right now.

597
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: That's true, true.

598
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: So I actually I get you on a lot of

599
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: what you just said. Of yet you can literally this

600
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: has literally just been my my arc for the year

601
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: is that you can absolutely lose your you can endlessly

602
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: lose yourself in pondering over the metaphysical and pondering over

603
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: consciousness and those things and people, many people throughout the

604
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: history of existence have get this. Spent their entire lives.

605
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: They didn't have personal lives, they didn't have Many people

606
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: have spent and to this day, spend their entire lives

607
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: prodding at those questions professionally and writing about them and

608
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: exploring them and reading about They spend their whole lives.

609
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: And you know what, they never come out with an answer.

610
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: They never there's the ever come out with an answer.

611
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if they ever will. I don't know,

612
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: if I don't know, if you know, humans came up

613
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: with a lot of answers. We came up with, like

614
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, we we get to tell the story of evolution.

615
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: We get to tell a lot of stories. There's a

616
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: lot of things that we don't have answers to like

617
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: like what you're saying, like the metaphysical, the consciousness stuff,

618
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: that stuff is gonna be answered by beings more conscious

619
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: than us than we that we can't understand. Maybe it's

620
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: the fucking AI supercomputer ship that is gonna answer. Maybe

621
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: it's that and we but it's not. It's not gonna

622
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: be us. We've determined it's not a and but we

623
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: got to answer a lot of questions. We got to

624
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: do a lot, we got to answer. We got to

625
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: we like like, I was watching some fucking YouTube video

626
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: about evolution and this guy's like, this guy's like really

627
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: understanding his place in the universe as a human, and

628
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: he's like, whoa, it's so cool all this shit happened,

629
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: and we are the species that gets to tell they

630
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: to tell the story and and all the metaphysical stuff.

631
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: I genuinely just think we're not you know, our species

632
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: and whatever our consciousness is. I don't think we're gonna

633
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: be the ones to answer those questions. It's probably gonna

634
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: be like, uh, you know, whatever, the whatever chat GPT

635
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: looks like in a thousand years is gonna have answers

636
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: to those questions, but not not us. So so listen.

637
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: If it's so fascinating to you and so cool to

638
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: you and pulls you in its direction to think about

639
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: these things, and you feel honored as a human and

640
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: as a conscious being to be pulled in those directions,

641
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: and you're being pulled in those directions from places of

642
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: love and from positive emotions, then it's a great it's

643
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: a great place to be pulled. But if you're being

644
00:34:53,680 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: pulled to them by OCD and fear and uh, oh god,

645
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: I need to have an answer to these things or

646
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: else I'm not gonna be okay. You're you're, you're running

647
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: a fool's Errand because there's no you, you, you must

648
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: accept that your your, your consciousness in its current form

649
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: and its current biological state, ain't getting there. Many people

650
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: tried forever and they never got there, and they never

651
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: will get there because it's impossible. It's beyond us. And

652
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: so again, if you're being pulled in those directions from

653
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: a positive place, from a place of love, it's great,

654
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: it's an honor. But if you're being pulled at them

655
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: from a place of fear and anxiety, it's like you're you're,

656
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: you're chasing a fucking dragon. You know you're never gonna

657
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: get there, so so accept that and then be like,

658
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: uh uh, I'm gonna explore these things from positive place

659
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: and then focus on the human side of your life,

660
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: which is connecting with other people and eating food and

661
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: and and drink water and playing fucking Pokemon.

662
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you. I I I'm unfortunately have to

663
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: go now. But I rarely want to say that. That

664
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: perspective you said about it's so I guess respectively, it's

665
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: it's okay that you know I'm not going to figure

666
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: out the hard stuff is a perspective I wasn't ready

667
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: to hear, and I'm happy to hear it, which it

668
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: wasn't great, I'm happy. So so listen. I let thank

669
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: you very much to you and group to letting me

670
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: just go on for a while. I feel mentally better

671
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: for having chatted with anybody about it, and again, just

672
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: thank you for your time. And I hope you and

673
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: the viewers and anyone else listening have have a wonderful

674
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: everything else they have.

675
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: So thanks, thank thank you very much. Having good luck

676
00:36:52,080 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: to you man. Cheers, Okay, take care, take care Ivan. Damn.

677
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: I like that guy a lot that I was cool. Yeah,

678
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: like I was cool. I I I hope, I don't know,

679
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope. I hope he is he lands

680
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: in good directions, uh for himself and figures figures some

681
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: of this ship out. Yeah, I know I clicked on.

682
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: I clicked on what he was talking about with like

683
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: the obsession over the metaphysical ship because whatever, everyone, I

684
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: don't shut up about my existential crisis on this podcast,

685
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: but that's a lot of what it was about. And

686
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: I even expressing that, even like I even talking to him,

687
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: just now expressing that. I like, I like, like, in

688
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: this moment that I'm recording this ship, it's clicking to

689
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: me that that's the fucking that was that Like that,

690
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: that's the sauce, right there is. I was obsessed with

691
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: those things on a you know, a from a fear

692
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: based state, you know, looking trying to like calm anxiety

693
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: by finding by looking for something that doesn't exist. But

694
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: you can't do that because it doesn't exist. So yeah, uh,

695
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: what what else? Pokemon? Pokemon are good, They're cool. I

696
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: feel you know, I feel I feel bad for Ivan,

697
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: but I don't want to throw pity at him because

698
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: I think he's just smart, do I say, Adam, I

699
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: know his name is Ivan. Phil. I don't want to

700
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: throw pitt pity at Ivan because I know he's a

701
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: smart guy and I and I think he'll I think

702
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: he'll persevere in some way. It's hard. It's hard if

703
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: you're a smart guy like that to find other people

704
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: to connect with. But he's got a lady in his life,

705
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: I think from what he said, Yeah, I don't know.

706
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. But I really enjoyed having that conversation. Hello, Hey,

707
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: what's up man? What's your name? Aiden?

708
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

709
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 3: This is the therapy gyek Oh.

710
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, this is yeah, dude, we've never spoken before,

711
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: have we. No?

712
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: No, I've been a big fan of you for years. Man,

713
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: it lives for a while.

714
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: Oka. Guess that's so cool. You know what's funny is

715
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: I I gotta I gotta be so honest with you, Aiden,

716
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: I this is just an expression of my life arc is.

717
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: I think I only I think I only started to

718
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: be I only think I think I only started to

719
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: be able to enjoy this whole thing recently. I think

720
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: I was. I think for most of it, I was

721
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: so caught up in the stress of it that I

722
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: couldn't like really sit and enjoy it, and only and

723
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: recently I've I've been just like, oh, this is a

724
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: cool thing to exist in, you know, because when you're

725
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: like trying to i don't know, like build something up,

726
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: stressful and you're you're in the moment of it too

727
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: much and so you can and you can't really enjoy it.

728
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: But lately I'm enjoying it, Like in this, I'm like, oh,

729
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: this is so cool that to have, especially yeah, after

730
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: five years, to have someone listening for for that long. Anyway,

731
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm I'm I'm really I'm really sucking myself

732
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: off right now. So I'm gonna I'm gonna no, I'm

733
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: sucking myself off. I'm sorry. I take back everything I said.

734
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: I I I yeah, I'm sucking myself off. What's up

735
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: with you?

736
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: Aiden?

737
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: How's life?

738
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: I'm pretty good?

739
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: Man.

740
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: Oh that is a bit weird right now. So I

741
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: just graduated last year and until he's like, I think, yeah,

742
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: last year. I'm kind of like in between trying to

743
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: figure out stuff in my life and stuff with jobs

744
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: and just personal life, trying to fit into everything that's new.

745
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: I guess.

746
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: What's new?

747
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 3: Well, I just started working with my dad. So I

748
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: used to work at Starbucks and I worked there for

749
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: a while. But then my dad he does like this

750
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: den repair thing, and so he needed help with the

751
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: business because my cousin originally worked with him, but he

752
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: went to a different state to start working somewhere else,

753
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: and so I'm now working with him, and so it's

754
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 3: a whole There were different schedules that used to be

755
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: only like night shift and stuff like that. So waking

756
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: up early in the morning, it's nothing I'm not used to.

757
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 3: But also just being on the heat a lot more.

758
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: And I live in a desert, so it's like a

759
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: hundred degrees especially in the summer.

760
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: This is real hot out here.

761
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: What are you in Arizona?

762
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm a I'm in a Vegas.

763
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: Oh shit, okay, So what's your dad's business that you

764
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: work for him doing?

765
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: Oh well, so he does like painless den repair. He

766
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,240
Speaker 3: works to like a couple of the rental companies out here.

767
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: And before that, you were at Starbucks.

768
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, before that was we're going at Starbucks. My

769
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 3: buddy he got a job at Starves and he got

770
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 3: me the job there.

771
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: I mean, which is fun.

772
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: Probably the most social job I've had in a while. Now,

773
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 3: it's kind of more We're just trying to figure out

774
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: what to do with myself because I enjoy what I'm

775
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 3: doing working here, but outside of this, I'm not really

776
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: doing anything. I'm kind of still trying to figure out

777
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: what I want to do a long term.

778
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 2: I guess what.

779
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: I what have you been What have you been thinking

780
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: about in your thinking? What have you been leaning towards?

781
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: Man, There's a few things here and there I've been

782
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: thinking about. Like, I know, private investigation is sometimes been

783
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: interested into looking for, but I'm not one hundred percent sure.

784
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: You want to do you want to become a private investigator?

785
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always seem like a something I would probably

786
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: enjoy doing. I think I don't just seem cool. I

787
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: guess I don't know. I don't really have an exact

788
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: go online.

789
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: Why do I feel? I feel like Vegas is ripe

790
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: with like private and investigators that like that, like investigate

791
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: whether or not like guys are cheating on their wives

792
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 1: with strippers and ship.

793
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: Most likely honestly like people. The fact that people get

794
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: married out here is kind of crazy to you to

795
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: go with it.

796
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: Why don't you go why don't you apprentice, Why don't

797
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: you go find a private investigator? That would be sick man. Yeah,

798
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: that's what you should do. That would be so cool. Yeah,

799
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: you should go to find a private investigator in Vegas.

800
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: And uh, he's like, so you want to get into

801
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: the PI business? Do you think you're ready? And you

802
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: have to submit to him and he may he makes

803
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: you like go fetch him cigarettes and stuff like he

804
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: hazes you. Like that is actually legitimate suggestion, is you

805
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: could go be a pledge for some other some like

806
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: you ever seen Nathan for you?

807
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 3: Uh no, it doesn't ring a bell.

808
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: Like that, Brian wolf guy.

809
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: I think so maybe that could be cool.

810
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you know? What do

811
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: you usually do when you're not painting painting houses? I'm sorry,

812
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: did you say painting houses? Or am I making that up?

813
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: Well, you're actually kind of you're kind of close in

814
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: the nose. I do paint touch up.

815
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: On cars, Okay, okay, but yeah, I.

816
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: Just do looking to your recon and all that, which

817
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: is actually what I'm doing right now.

818
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: What else do you think you might want to do

819
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: with your life? Aiden?

820
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 3: Honestly, I really don't know. I'm still trying to think

821
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 3: of ideas and stuff like that, and it doesn't really

822
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: help because I got a little bit of pressure for

823
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 3: my family on it, maybe because stuff like I've thought

824
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: of in the past don't pay that well. And my

825
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: parents are very like, oh, if he isn't making more

826
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: than this and that, I don't want you doing it

827
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 3: and this and that, And they don't mind if I

828
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: go or do like They don't mind if I do

829
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: or don't do college or do a trade, just something

830
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: that's going to pay more than what I'm gonna be

831
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: more or what my dad's already making, you know, And

832
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: he makes a good amount of money, and so it's

833
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: kind of the pressure almost being like I don't know,

834
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 3: it's not the pressure just being like him, I guess,

835
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: but I don't mind. My dad's an amazing guy, and

836
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: I always strived to be like him as a person,

837
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: but what he does is a lot of hard work,

838
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: and I don't know if I'm cut out for it.

839
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: How old are you?

840
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: I'm about to turn nineteen, like next month.

841
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: All right, cool? Cool? Interesting? What were the things that

842
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: you were saying that you want to do that don't

843
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: make a lot of money.

844
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: For a while, I always wanted to bartend, but obviously,

845
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not twenty one and close to that

846
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: for a little while if they ain't coming to the

847
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: option yet. But I know my parents my fans kind

848
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: of inhaled me by that idea, and maybe we're gonna

849
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: start just kind of scratch at inch of ba. So

850
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 3: I'm not really as wanting to you know already the

851
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: drink making all that, and I still don't mind trying

852
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 3: to do that, but I don't know, I just don't

853
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 3: have any big goal ideas yet.

854
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: I love, but you sound like you really enjoy like, uh,

855
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: front facing dream you like you some people, some people

856
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: their dream is to to work from home and never

857
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: see another human being ever again. But you sound like

858
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: the opposite, where you're like, I want to be in

859
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: like a front facing social job.

860
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be nice. I mean it's because like recently,

861
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: you know, just recent gaing out high school ast year,

862
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 3: I'm just like not as social or just realizing how

863
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: well me it actually is when you're not doing stuff

864
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: with other people. Like I've been trying to figure out

865
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: that out for myself too, because like out of work,

866
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: I'm doing nothing. I'm like, I go home I'm kind

867
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 3: of I'm just playing video games and sometimes I'll maybe

868
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: hang out with a friend once a week, and so

869
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, I want to go out and meet people.

870
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: I want to go and do things. But if you're

871
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: not like above twenty one in Vegas, there's not much

872
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 3: to do out here that isn't burning hot.

873
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I, by the way, I actually think being like,

874
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: oh I want to be a bartender, Like, I think

875
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: that choosing your career path based on like what you

876
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: think will put you in physical proximity to the most

877
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: amount of other people. Is I I genuinely do think

878
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: that is smart. I do think that is smart. I

879
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: get what your parents say though about you know, you

880
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: want to do some ship where there is some form

881
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: of like upward mobility so that you can you know,

882
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you don't want to be like

883
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: stuck making ship money for forever and ever.

884
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, that's kind of that's a fair point.

885
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: But but but I it is interesting though, because there

886
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: are and so what you're are you going to go

887
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: to college?

888
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: I think you maybe signing up the community college out here,

889
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 3: but not really for the courses of me maybe trying

890
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: to go to meet people. I think that's just an

891
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: hitch I kind of need to scratch because like I

892
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 3: don't know, man, maybe because like it's been a while

893
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 3: thing that like I've hung out with people like new

894
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 3: people because I don't know. I love my friends, like

895
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: we're all great, but it's just been a while.

896
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: I guess.

897
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you have you have reasonable goals. You

898
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: want to make money and you want to be around

899
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: other people, is what I assume are your goals.

900
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of a goal. But also the one

901
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: thing I struggles to that goal for me personally is

902
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: just taking that first step for a lot of things,

903
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 3: because like I'm real lazy on taking that first step

904
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 3: and just don't end up doing it, or just I

905
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: don't know, not knowing how to do it because I

906
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 3: see people do it so easily, and it's just like

907
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 3: I don't understand. Like maybe there's a lot of more

908
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 3: mental struggle I put myself for I'm thinking, oh, what

909
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: if this does happen, or what if this happens, you know,

910
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: and I break it down way too much, even though

911
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: it could just be done in the second by the

912
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: time already breaking down.

913
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, what are you spiraling? About like when

914
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: you say you see other people do it easy? What

915
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: are you talking? What are you talking about?

916
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: Like telling people like like people are taking the first

917
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 3: step to go do something so like something they've always

918
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 3: want to do for a while. I feel like I

919
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 3: got to family members at me, so you know what,

920
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 3: just socide and just go do it. They don't overthink

921
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 3: about it, They don't really think about it too much.

922
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,959
Speaker 3: They can go ahead and do it, even the fear

923
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 3: of failure. They know that, but they still go ahead

924
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: and do it.

925
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: Give me, give me, give me an example from your life,

926
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: like what are you what are you scared to go do?

927
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,479
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, maybe it's more scared of making

928
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: direct change, like trying to think. Here, I don't like,

929
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: like you said, already socializing thing. I'm afraid to approach

930
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 3: people sometimes because I'm not obviously I'm not hundred percent

931
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: sure what the reaction is going to be. And I

932
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: don't mind talking like friend and wide. I don't mind that,

933
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: but it's like talking. I don't have to go talk

934
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 3: to a girl, for example, Like I don't know if

935
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: I'm ready to even do that first step. I'm nervous

936
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 3: about that.

937
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: Man. Interesting, Well, I feel like the whole this whole

938
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: idea of like, yeah, you know, I'm thinking about this

939
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: because you the whole idea of like, oh I'm a

940
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: to approach. You know, it's more about you're you're focusing

941
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: on like the stress of like one single interaction, where uh,

942
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: the real sauce is attempting to design your life in

943
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: such a way that you are naturally in spaces with

944
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: other people repeatedly, which is how you make friends and

945
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: meet girls and do all that shit. So yeah, and

946
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: that's easy when you're in high school because that's just

947
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 1: naturally done for you. And then when you get older,

948
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: it gets it gets harder. But if you're intentional about it,

949
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: you it's you can do it. And especially because you

950
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: live do you live like in Vegas proper or you

951
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: like a little bit out on, a.

952
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: Little bit outwards like not exactly in direct Vegas, but

953
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 3: a little bit hours to the other cities around it.

954
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: You got a car, Yeah, I do.

955
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 3: You've got a new one recent so my old one

956
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 3: just mean transition went to junk.

957
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: All right, okay, all right, so you're clean. I mean,

958
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: you live in a major city and you have a car,

959
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: and you what you're you just graduated high school, so

960
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: you're a little you're a little in between ship right now.

961
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that weird in between like figuring out your life

962
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 3: after high school and also just trying to figure out

963
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: who you are to what you want to do. It's

964
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 3: that weird in between, I guess.

965
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, m hm.

966
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: Hm hmm.

967
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: Well, I mean there's a lot of there's a lot

968
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: of things like you do you do you what? What

969
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: do you can say?

970
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: All right?

971
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: For like for the money part, right, for the money part,

972
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: what are you thinking about wanting to do?

973
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: You know?

974
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: Because there's you could go to fucking trade school, you

975
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: could you could join your dad and painting ship.

976
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: You know.

977
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly, money wise, probably joining wound be

978
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 3: the better option because huh, it's a little bit the

979
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 3: hard vest to get into and with someone like my

980
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 3: dad who's been in for a while, I can get

981
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 3: a really good hands on for it. The money why,

982
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 3: it would be great for me, But I don't know

983
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: if I would really enjoy doing it. But I don't

984
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: know how much can you really enjoy a job, because

985
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: at one point it's gonna get repetitive no matter what

986
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 3: you do, right, and you're eventually gonna get bored of it.

987
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: Even something you really enjoy, it's gonna feel dull. That's

988
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: what kind of sucks.

989
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: Well, well, I actually your situation specifically, I got a

990
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: few thoughts on it because you live with your parents

991
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: right now.

992
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm live with my parents.

993
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: See you gotta see I I'm looking at your situation

994
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: right Okay, so you're not and you're not planning on

995
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: and you can just go right into this and you

996
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: don't have to go to college and you don't have

997
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,959
Speaker 1: to ac crew a bunch of debt and all that shit.

998
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no, at least I'm trying not to

999
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: get into any debt and all that stuff.

1000
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: So look, I'm just if I I'm gonna lay this out.

1001
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: This is I feel like I'm talking. I feel like

1002
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: i'm your dad right now. I don't know why, but

1003
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: I do like I like thinking about this stuff. So

1004
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: I'm engaged. I'm interested in your life. I like thinking

1005
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: about these things because all right, okay, all right, I

1006
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: actually do feel like I'm qualified to ponder this with

1007
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: you in some way, shape or form, which is that

1008
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: you actually have a great situation because it because what

1009
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 1: a lot of people your age do is they go

1010
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: to college because it's what everyone told them to do.

1011
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: And they spend four years and you know, they have

1012
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: fun and you know, maybe party or maybe they don't

1013
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: or maybe they you know, it's not that linear of

1014
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: a thing. But you go to college and then you

1015
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: graduate and oh no, you picked a stupid You graduated

1016
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: in like you got an English degree or something, or

1017
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: even a degree in like something that you're like a

1018
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: marketing degree or something. And you graduate and now you

1019
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: and now you're twenty two years old and you're in

1020
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 1: a mountain of debt and you're going into a job

1021
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: market that is like so deeply stacked against you, and

1022
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: it's hard, right, but you you have an interest, you

1023
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: have a new other, you have a different option that

1024
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: you could do, which I think is an it's interesting

1025
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: to explore. Now, Look, if you told me, if you

1026
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: were like, I really want to become a doctor. I

1027
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: really want to become a lawyer. I really want to

1028
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm trying to think of other biologists.

1029
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: I really wanted to get into science. If you're telling

1030
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 1: me that, if you're telling me those things, then then yeah,

1031
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: it's worth it to go to college and get it,

1032
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: rack up debt, and do whatever the fuck you're gonna do.

1033
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: But if you're sitting here like, I got no fucking idea,

1034
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: I just want to be around people and exist. Right,

1035
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: you're in a cool position because you could go work

1036
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: with your dad for four years and live in your parents'

1037
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: house and save and every fucking penny that you make

1038
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: from your dad, you can save for four years. Right,

1039
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: for four years, you can work with your dad and

1040
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: maybe whatever whatever, whether or not you like the job. Okay,

1041
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: what is it?

1042
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: Well?

1043
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: How along would this job is? Is like a nine to five?

1044
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: What kind of job? What are the hours? On this phone?

1045
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 3: Kind of like a nine to five? I worked in

1046
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 3: like well, like five am to like five pm, like

1047
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 3: five am Friday, Yeah, Monday.

1048
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: So twelve twelve hours Monday through Friday.

1049
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1050
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: So here's what you could And because you're eighteen, you

1051
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: can physically do this. If this is what you want

1052
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: to do, you could spend the next Listen, you can

1053
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: spend the next four years. You work Monday through Friday

1054
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: with your dad. You grind it out, okay, and you

1055
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: save all working Like what how many hours a week?

1056
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: Is that?

1057
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: Twelve times five? What's twelve times sixty.

1058
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's sixty.

1059
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: That's sixty, okay, And then you could, dude, you can

1060
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: save spent four years living in your parents' house. You

1061
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: save all that money, right, you save all that money,

1062
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: and that's what? What's four years? I don't know? What

1063
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: do you? What do? What do you can?

1064
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 2: I ask?

1065
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: You don't have to share if you don't want to.

1066
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: What do you make with this job?

1067
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 2: I make?

1068
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 3: Well, it's not really per hour, since it's kind of

1069
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 3: more of a family situation, since all right, business, okay,

1070
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 3: I make like one hundred.

1071
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: A day, okay, one hundred a day working six, working

1072
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: twelve one hundred a day working twelve hours. Yeah, what

1073
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: does that come out to? Hold on?

1074
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: It's like, I know, that's five hundred a week, five.

1075
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: One hundred dollars. What is it's one hundred divided by

1076
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: twelve eight dollars. You gotta you gotta negotiation. You gotta

1077
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: negotiate that with your dad, my friend, because that's because

1078
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: what what is? What's Nevada minimum wage?

1079
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: Let me google this, honest, I think it's pretty low.

1080
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: Nevada minimum wage. It's twelve dollars. Okay, your dad's paying

1081
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: you all right. If I were all right, if I

1082
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: were you, I would do a couple of things. First,

1083
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: is you got to negotiate with your dad to pay

1084
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: you at minimum Nevada minimum wage. Yeah, your dad's gotta

1085
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: get you. Got your dad's gotta get you. Uh Nevada

1086
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: minimum wage? Is this your is your dad's business, right?

1087
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's his business?

1088
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: All right? Tell your dad. Tell your dad he's got

1089
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: to pay you Nevada minimum wage, which is at least

1090
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: twelve dollars and what's the federal minimum wage? Fifty fifteen?

1091
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: Now I think st think it's like, oh okay, god damn.

1092
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: The federal minimum wage is still seven to twenty five,

1093
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: all right, But the Vitta mintum wage twelve dollars an hour.

1094
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: So get your dad to give you at least twelve

1095
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: dollars an hour, all right. So if that gives you

1096
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: twelve dollars an hour and you're working ten hours a week,

1097
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: that's what, No, not ten hours a week, I'm an idiot.

1098
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: Sixty hours a week, sixty times twelve, all right, So

1099
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: you're making like said, al right, So if your dad

1100
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: can give you like seven hundred and twenty dollars a week,

1101
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: all right, if you can negotiate that with your dad.

1102
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: That's an vitta minimum wage.

1103
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: All right?

1104
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 1: What is that times fifty two? All right, it's thirty

1105
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars a year about before taxes. I have

1106
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: no idea what the taxes are on that, but whatever,

1107
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: all right, all right, So if you do that for

1108
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: four years, okay, what's that? Time's four Okay? Now you

1109
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: have okay, one hundred and forty nine Okay, that's one

1110
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine thousand dollars. Most eighteen year olds,

1111
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: over the course of four years go. I don't know

1112
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: what the exact numbers are, might be exaggerating, but a

1113
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: lot of eighteen year olds spend four years going one

1114
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine thousand dollars into debt and you

1115
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: could live it. You could spend the next four years

1116
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: saving up one hundred and forty nine thousand dollars. I

1117
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: don't know if you have to pay taxes on that,

1118
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: and you probably are gonna want to, you know, pay

1119
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: for gas and whatever you're gonna you'll have expenses. It's

1120
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: not gonna be one hundred and four nine thousand dollars exactly,

1121
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: but you might. But dude, bro you could save up.

1122
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: Like I'm thorrowing, I'm pulling numbers out of thin air.

1123
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: But you could be you can graduate. You could graduate.

1124
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: You could be twenty two years old and you could

1125
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: have seventy thousand dollars saved up. Most people that age

1126
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: are like seventy thousand dollars in debt, you know, And

1127
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,439
Speaker 1: and get this and get this and get this. What's

1128
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: your name again? Aiden?

1129
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1130
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: And get this? Aidan? Is is is during that whole time? Okay,

1131
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: you wake up five am and then you work until

1132
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: five pm. You have a car, right, mm hmm, you

1133
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: could fuck it. What do you like to do, Aidan?

1134
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: Well, like my free time?

1135
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, just in general? What do you like to do?

1136
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 3: I had to play I had to play guitar like hangouts,

1137
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 3: friends play video games or play guitar. Yeah, I used

1138
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 3: to play a lot.

1139
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: But you could see you what you could do? You

1140
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: could and then okay, five pm? Right, for the next

1141
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: four years, you get off at five pm and you

1142
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: just start going to local like you're not big concerts

1143
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: that cost a bunch of money, but you could just

1144
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: get you could dive into the local Nevada. What kind

1145
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: of music do.

1146
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: You like I'm I'm a big fan of indie music.

1147
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: You like any music, you, I guarant fucking tee you

1148
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: that all around the all around Vegas, in the suburbs

1149
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: or whatever. I guarantee you all around Vegas. There are

1150
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: plenty of indie local music shows going around at shit

1151
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: ass dive bars that are like fifteen dollars admission. Okay,

1152
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: you could spend. You could spend every night of your

1153
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: you spend every day of your life for the next

1154
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: four years. You go into work, okay, and then you

1155
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: get off at five pm, and then you drive to

1156
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: a local indie concert and you pay fifteen bucks okay,

1157
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: or and you you whatever gas costs. It's pretty low expenses.

1158
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: And then you get involved in the local indie music scene.

1159
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, after like one year,

1160
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: you start showing You show up at these concerts, and

1161
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: then you have now you have and you're like, oh, hey,

1162
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: what's up, man, I've seen you before. Oh hey, oh

1163
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: maybe maybe there's some girl. And it's like, oh hey,

1164
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: i've seen you before, you know, and then all of

1165
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, you have all of a sudden, all of

1166
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: a sudden, because you keep showing up, you start to

1167
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: see the same people around the same concerts. Okay, and

1168
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: then and then now you have a little community. Okay,

1169
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: and so you fucking and the whole time you're living

1170
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: in your parents' basement. You're not paying for rent, you're

1171
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: not paying for a walk, you're not paying for any

1172
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: of this fucking shit. Okay, And you're saving up all

1173
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: the money you're spending money on like food, and we

1174
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: go into these indie shows, and you know, you take

1175
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: a girl out to Chipotle every now and then. Okay,

1176
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: and then and now you've spent now four years, now

1177
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: you graduate, Okay, Now, now you're twenty two, and picture

1178
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 1: this you have Okay, you made one hundred and forty

1179
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars from your dad over the course of

1180
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: four years. Again, most people are spending that going into debt. Okay,

1181
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: you have one hundred. Now you have seventy grand. Let's say,

1182
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just gonna say that because you

1183
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: saved it, because you saved up and you know, but

1184
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: you don't have a degree, But you have a lot

1185
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: of work experience, You've met a lot of people from

1186
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: the indie music scene. You have no idea what kind

1187
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: of career opportunities could come from that. Someone could be like, oh,

1188
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: hey I need an audio engineer to fucking do this

1189
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: whatever fucking thing, or hey, my band is going on

1190
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: tour and we need a roady to go. You know,

1191
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: it's tons of opportunities to do that. You're gonna be

1192
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: meeting people, I'm sure through working for your dad. Okay,

1193
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: opportunities could come through that. And you have seventy thousand

1194
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: dollars of a safety net in case if you want

1195
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: to go start your own business, or if you do

1196
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: decide you want to go to a trade school or whatever,

1197
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: and the whole and you didn't have to just spend

1198
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: the whole four years doing nothing with your life. You know,

1199
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: you have you, You'll you'll have a you'll have a

1200
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: beautiful Wednesday where you got you. You're working all day

1201
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: and then at night you go out to this local

1202
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: indie concert whatever. Maybe you meet some people, maybe you

1203
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: guys go out for you. Still you still live in

1204
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: your life the whole the whole time, You're still living

1205
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: cool young guy life. It's this is this that's yeah,

1206
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: this is me just getting excited about that's what. That's

1207
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: that's how I view your situation is you're this is

1208
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: perfect because you get to save money and you still

1209
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: get to live cool young guy life. You know, because

1210
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: you're because you're lucky enough.

1211
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 3: That a great way of looking at it.

1212
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're lucky enough that you had not everyone has.

1213
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: You know, I was lucky too. I'm lucky. I have

1214
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: parents that let me fucking live in their in their

1215
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: house after college. If you're like, if you're lucky enough

1216
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: to have that, god damn, take advantage of it. You know,

1217
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: you're lucky enough to have a dad who's willing to,

1218
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, set you up in the thing, and the

1219
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: parents that'll let you hang out in their house. You know,

1220
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: take you take advantage of that. You can live a

1221
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: cool life over the next four years, save a bunch

1222
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: of money, and make a bunch of friends. And uh, yeah,

1223
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: I've been going on a ramp. But that's that's what

1224
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: I would do. That's my advice.

1225
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly, i'most take your advice and the whole

1226
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 3: tire because that's all. It's both my issues. I guess

1227
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: it was meeting people and trying to figure out what

1228
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,439
Speaker 3: to do long term.

1229
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: Right because well cause it's because you can have both.

1230
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: Because you go work for your dad, and then you know,

1231
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: you're nineteen years old, you can work for twelve hours

1232
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,959
Speaker 1: a day and then go out and party afterwards, because

1233
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: you bought your body can take it. So so you

1234
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: so that you have your job for twelve hours a day.

1235
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: That solves your money issues, and then you have some

1236
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: form then and then on top of that, you find

1237
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: some form of community in the major city that you

1238
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: live in and just keep showing up to that, and

1239
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: then that fills up both of your your things and

1240
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: then and then some people might be like, well, if

1241
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't get a degree, then how's he gonna well

1242
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: long term, you're twenty If again, if you have having

1243
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: I genuinely think I genuinely believe having no debt and

1244
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: a shit ton of money saved up and no degree

1245
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: is so much better than graduating from college with a

1246
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: bunch of debt and like a ship marketing degree. And

1247
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: that's just this is what I believe. It would be

1248
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: different if you were like again, it'd be different if

1249
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: you were like a lawyer or a doctor or some

1250
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: ship and you needed to do it. But anyway, yeah,

1251
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: that's what I think about your life. Thanks for letting me.

1252
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm on. I'm a I'm on a lot of I

1253
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: upped my vibeance dosage a little bit. So you called

1254
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: it a perfect time to rant about these things.

1255
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. Man, that was a that alos a

1256
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 3: great advice SPECIFIC had in a while. Run situation. I

1257
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 3: think might really start doing that cool.

1258
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, let me know if Yeah, you got you

1259
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: gotta play hardball with your daddy though, you gotta, you gotta,

1260
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: you gotta tell you here's what you should here's what

1261
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: you can do. You can actually work for him for

1262
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: like a little bit, and then tell him that you'll

1263
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: report him to the labor board. No, don't report your dad.

1264
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: Don't report don't don't report your dad to the labor board.

1265
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: Don't report your dad to the labor board. But uh yeah,

1266
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: just asking me if he can pay you minimum wage?

1267
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, as I guess I should have that talk

1268
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 3: with him though about figuring out the paying a thing.

1269
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 3: I guess. I mean maybe it's more of just like

1270
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 3: any figure, because there is another thing he wants to

1271
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 3: try to teach me, which is what exactly he does.

1272
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 3: What I'm doing now a little bit different. I'm just

1273
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: helping him. But he wants to teach him what he's

1274
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 3: actually doing, which would make me a lot more money

1275
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 3: in the future that was taking like a year or

1276
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 3: two actually practicing getting it.

1277
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: That's great. See, Yeah, I understand the thing of like,

1278
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: I want to do a job that I like doing,

1279
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: but and you and you that could absolutely be in

1280
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 1: your future. But again but right but for right now,

1281
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: because you just graduated fucking high school. It's like, you

1282
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: can get your money up and get your community up.

1283
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: You have a perfect opportunity for that ship. And if

1284
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: your dad's teaching you how to do shit in the future,

1285
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, you're still what am I about to say,

1286
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: You're still doing something that's like could compound over long term.

1287
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, playing for the future, I guess, and making long

1288
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 3: term money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then and again the stuff that you end

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Speaker 1: up whatever it is that you decide you want to

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Speaker 1: end up doing at night. I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: is the local concert thing, but I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you want to you know, I mean when I was eighteen,

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Speaker 1: I was going to like Super Smash Brothers tournaments at night.

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Speaker 1: You know that compounds to do a community. You end

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Speaker 1: up you meet people, yea, you meet people. Then that

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Speaker 1: leads you to opportunities you wouldn't have uh known about before.

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Speaker 1: So again, yeah, I'm I'm excited for you. You could have

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Speaker 1: a next you could have a cool next four years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great idea that I was, like, gets

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Speaker 3: perspective log of what I should do a bit more

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Speaker 3: of my decision making. So I guess I probably should

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Speaker 3: have fallen working with my dad a bit, letting him

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Speaker 3: teach me a lot more things.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, aiden, Oh god, Aiden, Oh my god. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm I'm uh, I'm doing excellence. I'm doing excellent.

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Speaker 1: You know how You know who Gary Vee is?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think so he's definitely on He's he's probably on

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Speaker 1: So I don't do you think he's on adderall. He's

1311
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: gotta be, uh, honestly, maybe he's.

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Speaker 2: Got to be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about cocaine. People say he's on cocaine,

1314
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: but he's got to be on a lot of stimulants.

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Speaker 3: Probably. I think adderall might be one of them.

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Speaker 1: And is there anything else? Who I say the people

1317
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Speaker 1: of the computer before we.

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Speaker 3: Go, Am I able to say a few random words

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Speaker 3: of wisdom?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You say whatever you want, honestly, make sure to love

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Speaker 3: yourself before you love another. So that's all I gotta say.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful by Aiden, of course.

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Speaker 3: Have a great day, Gag. Thanks for the advice.

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Speaker 1: I liked. I like that guy. I liked Adan. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm very Folks who listen to this

1327
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Speaker 1: podcast have heard me talk about like film school and

1328
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Speaker 1: shit before. I don't know. If you're yeah, if you're

1329
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Speaker 1: in a position like that where yeah, like you're like,

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Speaker 1: if you if you're lucky enough that you have like

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Speaker 1: some kind of stable home situation where you can live

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Speaker 1: at home. Uh, and like you know, people aren't fucking

1333
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Speaker 1: like screaming at each other all the time or anything

1334
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Speaker 1: like that. Oh my god, take advantage of that. Shit. Hello, folks,

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Speaker 1: it's Lyle here. That's the end of this episode. But

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Speaker 1: is are You? Are you running right now?

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Speaker 2: No?

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01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I uh I was hitting some curls.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, yeah, what I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think you call it? What's up?

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Speaker 1: Bro? No, that's all right, that's all right. Are you uh?

1352
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Speaker 2: Are?

1353
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can talk to you, if

1354
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Speaker 1: you're gonna breathe into the into the microphone the whole time.

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Speaker 3: Well, like, literally, I'm working out with my buddies.

1356
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 2: I was like doing some heavy curls and I was

1357
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 2: talking to him and then you called. I was like, oh, shoot, guys,

1358
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: the get's coming.

1359
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 3: I gotta go.

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Speaker 1: If you want to hear this full conversation, you can

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Speaker 1: episode description that's therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. All Right,

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Speaker 1: I have nothing else to say, goes on the line,

1365
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Speaker 1: taking calls every night, Goes to his He's teaching you

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Speaker 1: aloud in the line's exper