1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamsons on 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: And we are back. 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 3: Welcome back to our number two of the special edition 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: of The Drive here in Palm Beach, Florida. I'm here 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: with I'm Dale Lolly here with Max Starks and Matt 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: Williamson and the league meetings taking place here at the 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: Breakers in Palm Beach. And guys, we talked at the 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: beginning of the show about the puzzle pieces coming together. 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: And I continue to see the national mock drafts that 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: come out that have the Steelers taking a first round 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: quarterback and not taking a defensive lineman. And I can't 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: help but chuckle because if there's one, one area, one 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: hole on this roster quarterback aside right now, but I 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: think they have an idea what's going to happen there. 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: It's the defensive line. Yes, Larry Ogan, Jobi is no 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: longer on this team. You've filled all the other starting 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: spots with somebody and backups and. 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: Backups except for Delon. 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: You've signed some backup type defensive lineman, but you haven't 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: gotten that guy yet. 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: And that's where it's like it's like ding ding, ding 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: ding ding. 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 4: All the arrows point here, right when you look at 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 4: the maze and you get to the Steelers' logo backer, 27 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: even though we lost to Landon Roberts, right, Uh, you 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: know which, we drafted Peyton Wilson the year before we 29 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 4: signed Patrick Queen Boom corner. Yes, we didn't retain Dante Jackson, 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 4: but we went and signed Darius Slay. You still got 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 4: Corey Trice back there, Joey Porter junior echos, echoes can 32 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: play that outside position as well. 33 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: So I'm like, what are we talking about here? 34 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: Like, that's the only position that was not addressed, only 35 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 4: position that was not addressed. And we've addressed offensive line, 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 4: We've addressed tight end, We've addressed running back. I was like, yes, 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: this is it can be d lineman or you can 38 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 4: continue down your your path of folly with trying to 39 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: pick a quarterback. 40 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: But it's defensive lineman. 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, it has to be defensive lineman. And I would 42 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: draft two of them this one absolutely. 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean set myself up the next eight years, which. 44 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 5: Defensive lineman other than Hayward and Benton are guaranteed spots 45 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 5: on this team, probably none, I mean guaranteed. I mean, 46 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 5: there's some guys we'd like, and Logan Lee might be good, 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 5: and we know who louder Milk is and the looweries 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 5: of Lowries exactly who he is fine, And one of 49 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 5: those guys is up in age, although he's awesome, but 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 5: he's up in age, and the splits with him on 51 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 5: and off the field last year were startling, I mean, 52 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 5: especially against the run that you're you're walking a tight 53 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 5: rope with Cam and it's amazing in a credit to him, 54 00:02:59,240 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 5: that you're even. 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: Able to do it. 56 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 5: But if you also look at it this way too, 57 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 5: Like I understand they have a lot of cap space, 58 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 5: but they don't have much in the way of draft resources. 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 2: They don't have a number two. 60 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 5: You really only have one more resource to add a 61 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 5: big thing. It's your first round pick, you know, and 62 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 5: the third round picks not even close to the same. 63 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 5: You've got your first round pick, and maybe if you 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 5: get creative, you could trade for somebody's contract down the 65 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: line or whatever. 66 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: But that first round pick has to be a dtackle. 67 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: It has to be. It has to be. And like 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: you said, you only get one bite at this apple. 69 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 4: Mm because you're you're not getting anything in the second 70 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: round where a lot of volume and quality is going 71 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: to be moved. 72 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: You're not in that conversation. 73 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: I did ask omark con today if he would be interested, 74 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: knowing that he's got some comp picks coming next year, 75 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: of trying to get back into that second round this year, 76 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: whether trading the compicks next year, whether they're trading down 77 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: in the first round this year, trying to make something happen, 78 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: you know, moving up from that third round pick to 79 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: get into that second round. And he goes, look, I'm 80 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: gonna be aggressive where we need to be aggressive of 81 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: everything's on the table. 82 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: We can move you know, up, down, trade future picks. 83 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 5: I mean, they're not static, they're not stuck where they're 84 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 5: app by any means. But as it stands right now, 85 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 5: they have one massive resource. 86 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: You know. 87 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the only Yeah, that's the queen on the 88 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 4: chess board, right That's the only one you have, and 89 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 4: you want to make sure that you make the best 90 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 4: out of it. I think at that twenty one you're 91 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: kind of in limbo anyways, at that point in the draft, 92 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 4: because you will have probably fallen in love with two 93 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 4: or three guys that are still available, and depending on 94 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 4: how far back you move, you'll know what the reliability 95 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: is that you'll get at least one of those top 96 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: three guys on your board, because you're not putting Travis 97 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 4: Hunter at the top of your board, You're not putting 98 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 4: cam Ward at the top of your board. Right, there's 99 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: a number of names you could just go ahead and 100 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: cross off. Tyler Warren is not going to be there, yeah, right, 101 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 4: you know that dual Carter, not that we need him, 102 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: he's not going to be there. 103 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: Sure, So, yeah, Matt and I do this every year. 104 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: Well, we'll come up wherever the Steelers are picking at 105 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 3: and this year it's twenty one. 106 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: We'll come up with our list of twenty one. 107 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: Guys that we feel like the Steelers would be interested 108 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: in taking it twenty one if available. Now we do 109 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: include like a camp Word for example, because if he 110 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: were to fall to twenty one to take them, yeah, take. 111 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: Of course, yeah, you don't bet Nye, but that's one 112 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: of course, come up with twenty one names. 113 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: And so therefore then you start looking at, okay, which 114 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: one of these of these players is likely to be there? 115 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: But Whyboddy? 116 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 5: A really good exercise is like for this class last 117 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 5: year was easy. Other's six quarterbacks and six offensive tackles. 118 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 5: I could get to twenty pretty quick. 119 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: This year. 120 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 5: It's like, of the top twenty prospects, five of them 121 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 5: are edge rushers. Do you really want them? Yeah, there's 122 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 5: a couple tackles you're probably not taking in round one. 123 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 5: Would you even go receiver? I mean, like all of 124 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 5: a sudden to get your twenty one names that if 125 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 5: the worst twenty players go off the board one to twenty, 126 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 5: which never ever, ever, ever ever happens, who's the guy 127 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 5: that I would be stuck with at twenty one. It's 128 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 5: probably it's very low down the list. I mean it's 129 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 5: not an inspiring name. I mean, when you do it 130 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 5: that way, you usually end up with like your tenth 131 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 5: best player on the board. Yeah, twenty one almost every 132 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 5: time on your board, not the consensus board. 133 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: Nobody cares about. That nobody cares about. 134 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: And also you can't get into those previous twenty draft 135 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 4: rooms to figure out what looks like and what they're valuing. 136 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 4: I mean, you have an idea based on their roster 137 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 4: about what. 138 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: Your pro scouting staff has a pretty good idea. They 139 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: got a good idea and listen, all those guys talk. 140 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 141 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: You talk, You talk to the other guys, even though 142 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: the names might not be Oh, but you'll. 143 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: Talk to the Browns. You'll talk to the Ravens. You 144 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: have good relationship with them. 145 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 4: Listen, forget about the on the field one time to 146 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 4: two times a year that we don't like each other. 147 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 4: There's a good communication amongst that group because you see 148 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 4: each other all the time. 149 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: You're communicating. 150 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 3: So Marcid he's like, look, I'm good friends with John Schneider. 151 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: That's why that deal with DK Metcalfe came. 152 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: Together pretty quickly. Because we make sure you know each 153 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: other well well. And you have guys that get get roverd. 154 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 4: I mean, look at look at that the Rams, you 155 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: know deal with Stafford and Golf. Like the guy came 156 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 4: from the Rams and went to the line. So of 157 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 4: course he's like, hey, you don't like your guy, we 158 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 4: don't like our guy. Let's red rope for this, you 159 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So it happens all the time. 160 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: So I think people can't get enamored or obsessed with 161 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: the logo because I was like, behind. 162 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: Closed doors, all those guys are all friends. They're are all. 163 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: Over here now, and it's not like West Side Story 164 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: over here exactly. 165 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: Hughes and the Capitulates are are there. Yeah, we're all 166 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: gonna hang out of the beast later on tonight. I'm 167 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: probably gonna see the Texans beat right here. 168 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: You might see Mike Toblin talking to John Harbaugh, you 169 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: know exactly. 170 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: I mean that's what this is, and I think people 171 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 4: kind of get so clouded or so fancided about it. 172 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: You don't really see that, and that's why these moves 173 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: happen the way that they do. 174 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 5: I'm glad you're on our side. The night though, we 175 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 5: start rumbling with other. 176 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, definitely, he's gonna the drinks are gonna be 177 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: talking to him. 178 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: He's gonna be challenging people, taking out other media gros. Exactly. 179 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: It's like, hey, hey, facts go, hey, hey, you see 180 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: the Chargers group over there. We could take him right down. 181 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. 182 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 5: But there is some logic to it as well, like 183 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 5: the Chargers picking twenty two for. 184 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: Whoever's picking twenty two. 185 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, if hypothetically the twenty second team in the draft 186 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 5: really needs a center, well, they know the Steelers aren't 187 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 5: take a one to twenty one, even if Webby's on 188 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 5: the board. I mean, like you know what I mean, Like, 189 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 5: I know they're not going to swipe my guy. 190 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of that. I'm willing to 191 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: trade back. 192 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 4: But if somebody at twenty five is calling me that 193 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 4: also wants a center right story, it's. 194 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: Like, hey, hey, now you know why they're calling. 195 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: Hey, La, guess what, guys, these guys are three picks 196 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 4: behind you. I think they want your same guy. What 197 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: are you willing to do? 198 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 5: Because I'd rather you have them than them, and we 199 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 5: can we can swap one pick and throw me a 200 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 5: third and I'll still get. 201 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: My guy or tah me. 202 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: Wonder if if those teams picking just ahead of the 203 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: Steelers Denver, who else was it right in front of them? 204 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: Since he's ahead of at Arizona Arizona. 205 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, if those teams aren't going to be getting calls 206 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: late and well before the Steeler with teams trying to 207 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: maybe come up and get a quarterback, who thinks they 208 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: get ahead of him? 209 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: Forget I gotta get ahead to for this. I think 210 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: it's I think, guess what's gonna happen? 211 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that's where I mean your biggest 212 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: moves that that happened. I mean outside of like the 213 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 4: top ten, and god knows how how often that actually happens. 214 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: We see the movement sometimes, and like even like last year, 215 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: we didn't see as much movement as we thought in 216 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 4: Day one and then day two it was just crazy. 217 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 4: It was like everything was moving around the board. But 218 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: that could I could. 219 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: See that from about seventeen to twenty five that. 220 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 4: Being the movement zone for the first round of this draft, 221 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 4: just because there's gonna be pieces and like you said, 222 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 4: teams that might not normally be up there, you know 223 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: that are like, hey, you know we like our quarterback, 224 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: but you know we need some other options. 225 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 2: He's getting up there in age. The Rams are a 226 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: team to come to mind to me, Yeah, for you 227 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: know the guy. Yeah, we we got Matthew Stafford back. 228 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: We weren't sure he was coming back this year. 229 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, we even shopped him to see if he was 230 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: really wanting to come back, and. 231 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: Let's go get the next guy because we don't have 232 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 3: that on our roster right now and this is the 233 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 3: time to do it. So it wouldn't surprise me to 234 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: see them move. Although they don't have a second round 235 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: pick this year. To make that happen, they might raft 236 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: for some of those edge rushers because there's edge rushers 237 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: in that top they're always desirable, like the top eight 238 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: edge rushers are dudes. Yeah, and every if there's a 239 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: run that nothing could be better for the Steelers. 240 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 4: If there's an you have an edge rusher runt that 241 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 4: that's that's all you're hoping for. Just like, hey, stay 242 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: away from the interior, guys. 243 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, take your edge, keep thinking about the outside guys. 244 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: Don't worry about the insign. 245 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 5: You get yours on day too, because there's a lot 246 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 5: of them on Day two, right right, right, we'll get 247 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 5: our star. You know, Max, you mightn't know the answer 248 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 5: to this, and I really you'd have to get a 249 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 5: former GM in my opinion. 250 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: I mean, we know they're up here, right of course. 251 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, But I wonder did they ever say I want 252 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 5: this player or do they just kind of know? I 253 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 5: bet they kind of know, they already kind of know. 254 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 5: Like I bet the team that has the earlier pick 255 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 5: isn't like, well, who you take it. I'm not telling 256 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 5: you who I'm taking. 257 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: It's it's some of that. 258 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: Back Larry Johnson situation where the steel when Kansas City 259 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: had that pick, Kansas City thought the Steelers were coming 260 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: up for Larry Johnson because that's who everybody had walked 261 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: to the Steelers. I'd taken Larry Johnson and they were 262 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: coming up to get Troy and Kansas City wound up 263 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: taking Larry Johnson and then the spot that the Steelers 264 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: were in, And there was a reason for that because 265 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: that's where Larry Johnson was kind of slotted to go 266 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: in that draft. 267 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 5: But I assume I don't know what team of Steelers 268 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 5: traded up to who had Divers City Kansas City at. 269 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: The original pick. Yeah. Yeah. 270 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 5: When Kevin calls Kansas City and they say, well, you're 271 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 5: taking Johnson or Paula Malou, he's saying you'll find out. 272 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 4: I'm not telling you, right, Yeah, yeah, because like I'm 273 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 4: calling you because I think we have a mutuals. 274 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 5: I think it's bad for him to actually ask what 275 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 5: I assume so too, But I'd love to get a 276 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 5: GM being like if they're tight buds, You're like, you 277 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 5: want paul Maula, do you? 278 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, in a situation like that where it's a position. 279 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 3: Player quarterbacks, you always it's not everybody knows you're coming 280 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: up to get a quarterback. You're trading up into the 281 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: top five, You're coming to get a quarterback. Yeah, you're 282 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: trading up into the top ten, you're coming to. 283 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: Get a quarterback. 284 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: If you're trading to go to seventeen, who the hell 285 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: knows when the quarterbacks are gone? Yeah, at least now, 286 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: I mean after the quarterbacks. I mean that's we talked 287 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: for a quarterback. We talked about that last week, about 288 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: how much that has changed. In the last eight drafts, 289 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: there have been thirty quarterbacks taken in the first round. 290 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, almost one per team. Yeah. 291 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: From two thousand, what was it, two thousand, eight years previous, right, 292 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: it was. 293 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: Like two thousand, two thousand and two to two thousand 294 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: and six or something like that. 295 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: That four year period there were fifteen quarterbacks taken. Period, 296 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: Like what it was, I mean half over that the. 297 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: Number of first round quarterbacks. 298 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: Basically eight decade, it was like eight quarterbacks were taken. 299 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: It was like two per year. It just didn't happen 300 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: all the time. But now, if you're a quarterback, you 301 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: get pushed into the first round. Even if you're a 302 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: third round talent, and that's where teams get into trouble 303 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: with this stuff. 304 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, scarcity, right, and there's six last year, which obviously 305 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: is really strong. And there are some instances. 306 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 5: You know, Lamar was an end of the first round 307 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 5: that if they don't trade up, he wouldn't accounted and 308 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 5: that one hit. 309 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: But the Bills moved. The Bills took ej Manuel the 310 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 3: first round. Ej Manuel was not a first round draft pick, 311 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 3: but anybody and Aaron were twenty five right when he 312 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: got drafted. So he said, never happens now, and nobody 313 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: thought that was gonna happen. 314 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 5: But if you look for like a decade, there's usually 315 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 5: like two or three taken. Now there's like four or five. 316 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, easily, because every team is looking for right and 317 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 4: you have perennial teams that just mess it up, that 318 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: are like, all. 319 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: Right, we got to go to the next one. 320 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 5: I mean, just look at what a lot of it's 321 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 5: just money though they want the party contract. 322 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: Well, I mean even if it's a first round pick. 323 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 4: Like they want, they want they believe that the first 324 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 4: contracts the window that you got for the championship. Right, 325 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: I mean think about the Cardinals, right, they had Josh 326 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 4: Rose in the year before, first round, right top Yeah, 327 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 4: and then number one overall. 328 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: Pick you going you get Kyler Murty, you get rid 329 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: of Josh Rose. 330 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 5: The top ten pick top ten, Yeah, Tom Gaden one year, 331 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 5: like a new coach comes in says, that's on style. 332 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 5: I want owners, said, fine, get rid of them. They 333 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 5: actually got a second round pick and return for Rosen, 334 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 5: which is a lot considering driving that car off the lot. 335 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: It should appreciate it even more than that. 336 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 5: But yeah, still that never would happen ten years ago 337 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 5: or twenty years ago or whatever, right, would not happen. No, 338 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 5: we just draft this guy one because you had to 339 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 5: pay those guys the money. 340 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because they're paying Sam brad for you're paying 341 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: JaMarcus Russell. 342 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah. 343 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 4: It's like, hey, we got we got to kick the 344 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 4: tires four or five six times before we know that 345 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: this is a dudge. 346 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 6: Well. 347 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 5: The other thing is, like we talked about the cap. 348 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 5: These teams are richer than they used to be. Yeah, 349 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 5: it's all pennies compared to dollars. It's like, yeah, that's 350 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 5: a lot of money, but I got more money I 351 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 5: used to is. 352 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: I don't care, you know, have more money I used to. 353 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: And there's a wait scale. 354 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: Yeah right, right right, I know Kyler's not going to 355 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 5: make the Sam Bradford or JaMarcus Russell contract. 356 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: He's gonna make the number one overall contract, you know. 357 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, and five percent above what the previous number 358 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: one overall was, right right, Yeah. 359 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: So it's you know, just because everybody else is running 360 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: to take second and third round quarterbacks in the first 361 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: round doesn't mean that the Steelers should then do. 362 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: That as well. And people could say, well, Kenny Pickett 363 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: had a third round grade. No he didn't. 364 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett was was grated as a first round guy 365 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: in that particular draft. 366 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: He was I've seen I go back and look google it. 367 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: It's all there. 368 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: And he was a guy that the Steelers saw his 369 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: entire time at pit, every. 370 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: The familiarity iant, you know question. They knew what they 371 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: were getting because they'd seen it already. 372 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: Just because it didn't work out doesn't mean that that, 373 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: you know, he would a bad decision. 374 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you take that swing, but you didn't. Again, it 375 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: was just a pick. You didn't trade up to go 376 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: get go, go get him. You didn't he fell in 377 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: your lap. 378 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: You didn't mortgage everything. It fell into your lap and 379 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: you took a swing at it. You tried, it didn't 380 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: work out, you moved on. Uh you know you hear 381 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: the stuff. Well, the Steelers had a first round grade 382 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: on Mason Rudolph. 383 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: That's fine. They didn't take him in the first round. No. 384 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: I called his name out in the third round. There 385 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: you go. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 386 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, if he had a first round grade, 387 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: yeah great, but he was there in the third round. 388 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 4: I remember walking up on stage looking at it, calling 389 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 4: his name, and then we went back in the third round. 390 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 4: Got chokes the chorps for you got two third round picks. 391 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: You know, once you get past those first fifteen players 392 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: in any draft, and it's usually around fifteen, the next 393 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: seventy guys are all going to have similar grades on 394 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: them exactly. You know when you when you were coming out, 395 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: and I'm sure there were the backs you could go 396 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: at the end of the first round, you could go 397 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: into third round somewhere in that range. 398 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 399 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 4: I had a lates first first round grade. Is that 400 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: late first round and beyond? That's what I blessed over 401 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 4: report And I was like, okay, thought I was going, 402 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: thought I was going in the first round when I 403 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 4: saw Philly trade up. Didn't happen, sat I was. I 404 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 4: was the fourth offensive tackle taken at seventy five. 405 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: Again, could never happen. Never happened now, Yeah, but that 406 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: could be somebody with. 407 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 5: A grade less. If the fourth tackle in this draft 408 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 5: was one round less a player than you were, they 409 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 5: still would have went ahead of you, no doubt. Because 410 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 5: it's about money. It's all about the cap, and it's 411 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 5: all about finances and what you can get what you can't. 412 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 5: You can't get six nine dudes like you that can 413 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 5: play football. 414 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's scarcely now. 415 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 4: Back in my air, they're like, hey, we had a 416 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 4: lot bigger dinosaurs walking around and so but it's like, 417 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: but we don't have skill guys, right, because I mean 418 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 4: the one thing that. 419 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 5: Went they understood the cap as well, either to manipulate it. 420 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 5: They definitely not. 421 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, because everybody was still standardized. Okay, there's gonna be 422 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 4: a four year with a fifth year option. You're gonna 423 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 4: get a three year, you're gonna get a three year, 424 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 4: you're gonnaet a two year. Like they were just so 425 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 4: set up on putting everything on the on the Excel 426 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 4: spreadsheet right right, based off of their redacted data from 427 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 4: years before that. They didn't really understand this. Now you 428 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 4: parlay it and you move it around so much. Guys 429 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: are getting very creative now with the cabin and that's 430 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: why we have to trust what they're doing. 431 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: That's why Omar was brought in, right, you know exactly. 432 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 5: That's and how's he flipped that russ The last two 433 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 5: years and the addition of these compics aren't accidents. They 434 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 5: happened on purpose. He couldn't do it in the first 435 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 5: year you're there. But when you see the expiring contracts 436 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 5: of the guys, we like him or we know he's 437 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 5: going to command a lot in the open market. But 438 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 5: if we draft tackles that you can't exist, he's gonna 439 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 5: yield us a pick and we're gonna have two cheaper 440 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 5: tackles that are more talented. 441 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, We're gonna get our value back. Yeah, we're 442 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: never losing value over this prospect. 443 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely real quick. 444 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 5: You said something about picket in the familiar area. I 445 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 5: just wanted to throw this out there too, that as 446 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 5: a scout, one of your jobs is how can I 447 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 5: tell the decision makers how to best eliminate risk, and 448 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 5: the familiar area with Picket had a lot of that. 449 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 5: You know, there's no doubt they knew more about him 450 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 5: than Willis or Ritter or how I mean, how could 451 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 5: you not? I mean you bet you got good buddies 452 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 5: next door, these go asks or you see them every day, 453 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 5: you know, I mean, like, it doesn't mean it's a 454 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 5: good pick or a bad pick, but it was thought out, 455 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 5: you know, yeah, it was very it didn't work. 456 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: Out, It doesn't mean it's a bad pick. Yeah. 457 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: And I think also, like you said, when you see 458 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 4: a guy every day, you understand the stuff that not 459 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: everybody else is. 460 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: Everybody else is looking for this information that you have available. Right, 461 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: you have more information than you walk off the field. 462 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 4: He's walking on the field every single day that there's practice. 463 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: How many those coaches you eat lunch with and see 464 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: every day lunch room? 465 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 4: And then hey, just happened to take a stroll on 466 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: the second story balcony while Pitt's out there were practice? 467 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 4: Oh okayssie his arm, I see what he goes through. Okay, 468 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: I like his workout. You know these things, and so 469 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: you know, so when you get to Kenny Pikety you 470 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 4: talk to you could be nuanced because like I got 471 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 4: as much information as I need over the last three years. 472 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: Who total he lives in town? Yeah exactly. Okay, you 473 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 2: passed your house on the way to work. You know 474 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, your dorm or whatever. 475 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 5: And I did the total opposite with recruits, like, oh, 476 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 5: let's go out back. Oh, the Steelers are practicing while 477 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 5: we're here. 478 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just looking. You guys want to watch Troy's hair, 479 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: it's flowing. I mean it's a windy day right now. 480 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: Look at that young offensive tackle they drifted. He's like six'. 481 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 5: Nine the son and his dad From North. Alleghany you 482 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 5: think they want to Watch steeler? Practice oh, gosh, sure 483 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 5: okay yeah Beaver. Falls OH i forgot their. 484 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: Practicing you guys want to hang out, Here we can 485 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: go back in if you. Want you want to watch them, 486 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: Film you want to watch them? Play right? 487 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 5: Right you want to talk about academic stuff or you 488 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 5: don't hang out and Wat steeler. 489 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: Practice let's get to a, break. Guys he Is Matt, 490 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: williamson That's Max. STARKS i Am Dale. Lolly we are 491 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 3: here In Palm Beach florida where the league meetings are 492 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 3: taking place here. 493 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: At The, BREAKERS i feel like there's a little storm 494 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: rolling up. HERE i felt the. WIND i heard that it's. Cool, 495 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: yeah suddenly things got really. Cool It's. Florida it is 496 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 2: the way it goes. Here we're going to take a. 497 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: Break we'll be back with more here on the drive 498 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 2: right after. 499 00:20:54,440 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: This he's The drive if With Dale lolly And matt 500 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: williamsons on your twenty four to Seven home of The 501 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: black And Gold Steelers Nation. 502 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 3: RADIO i Am Dale lolly here With Max starks And 503 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 3: Matt williamson at The breakers here In Palm beach and 504 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 3: Well if we get knocked off the air here at some, 505 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: point it's because The National Weather service has just said 506 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 3: that strong thunderstorms over are predicted over a Royal Palm 507 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: beach or Near. Wellington this storm is nearly stationary hazard 508 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: winding gusts of forty five forty five to fifty miles 509 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: an hour of the radar indicated gusty winds and trees falling. 510 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 5: Down we were begging for a two mile an hour 511 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 5: wind an, hour as. 512 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: For somebody would ice cube in their mouth to blow on, us, 513 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: Right that's how bad it was. Earlier it sounds like 514 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: things are about to change around. There, yeah things could 515 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: get a little hairy. 516 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: Here so we'll see what, happens and we'll try to 517 00:21:59,040 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: stay on the air. 518 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: Here but in the, meantime on location can be an, adventure. 519 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: Folks this is the way it. 520 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 3: Is we're out we're outside here In, florida and uh, 521 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 3: well we don't do as many outdoors shows in uh, 522 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: like even at training, camp largely because of. 523 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: This we never. Know, yeah you just don't. 524 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: Know there were so many times when we were at 525 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: training camp where we're sett, up some bady to go 526 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden way we got to 527 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: get inside because stuff's. 528 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 5: Happening some of those training camp shows were, crazy, Though 529 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 5: like we'd be under a tent and it's pouring In 530 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 5: latrobe and our wonderful fans are, great but they just 531 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 5: think that tents for. Them and we're like on the 532 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 5: air with like four hundred fans on top of, us. 533 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: Right underneath, us like bringing onto the the. Microphone he 534 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: just pouring right in the electrical. Socket it's, like come, 535 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: on how just back up just a little, bit. Man, 536 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 2: yeah the one year Were. Jesus they had. 537 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 3: Us we were out by the open of the gate 538 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 3: there where all the fans come, in uh, Huh and 539 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 3: we're right there when the when the fans come in 540 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: and it starts raining and they all come flocking to 541 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 3: our tent and we're still we're on the. Air people 542 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: are trying to ask us is this supposed to last? 543 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 5: Long and like we're on the, air You, seeah we 544 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 5: have a headset on, speaking, Right. 545 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,239 Speaker 4: YEAH i just WEAR i wear this for. Fun these 546 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: are ear. Muffs we're not. 547 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 2: Calling we're not calling in the weather, here, Yeah. 548 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 5: AND i can't hear you when these are over both 549 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 5: years when you're out there talking to, me, Right. 550 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens with. This but the weather 551 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: here has been. Okay it rained a little bit yesterday 552 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: but wasn't too. Bad but it Is, florida and stuff. 553 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 3: Happens your weather done, Here max is. Crazy things happen, Quick. 554 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: Yeah they do now now normally they don't last too. 555 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: Long when you see the nearly, stationary nearly, stationary that's 556 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 4: that's when you start to worry in the. 557 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: Hockey how could be nearly stationary with forty to fifty. 558 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: Mile an hour? Winds that is? CRAZY i, mean we 559 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: think those winds would blow it. 560 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: Something we could go with the atmospheric you, know empirical, 561 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 4: calculations but, Uh i'm just going to go with what they. 562 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: Said it's got to be an ocean. Thing, yeah it's 563 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 2: got to. Be did this one say nearly? Stationary? 564 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 5: Yes, ah, OKAY i kind of stop paying attention to 565 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 5: forty or fifty mile hour, trees. 566 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: Start putting stuff, down, yeah start looking. Up, yeah the 567 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 2: minnow could be lost exact. Point we'll see how that. 568 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: Goes probably this three hour tour. Last, yeah it's gonna 569 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 2: be picking. Up. YEAH i Think nate's the skipper, here 570 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: and that's definitely. Is he has a concerned look on 571 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: his face. Too he. Does, so, GUYS. 572 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: I did you know ask AS i Mentioned Omar khan 573 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: about the compensatory, picks. 574 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: And he said, that you, know, hey, look we didn't 575 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: do this by. Accident you, know this was part of 576 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: the plan. 577 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: Here we knew we had guys signed on one year 578 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 3: deals and if we lost, them then we're. 579 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: Going to get picks. 580 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 3: Back and so for again people to say that The 581 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 3: steelers had no, plan they don't know what they're doing 582 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: with this, stuff. 583 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: That's not exactly true, pushback And rome wasn't built in a. 584 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 5: DAY i, mean like taking a cut On wilson And 585 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 5: fields was logical for the other options that were available 586 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 5: one year ago in order to win in twenty twenty. 587 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 5: Four but he knows that the fans don't in my back. 588 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 5: Pocket even if they're not the, answers my investment's gonna 589 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 5: triple in terms of WHAT i gave up in, draft 590 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 5: in monetary money or monetary. 591 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: Resources for this. Stuff AND i find it really. 592 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 5: INTERESTING i saw a study of how much draft capital 593 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 5: every team has, used you, know basically all the way 594 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: through the two, thousands and if you look at like 595 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 5: The ravens and The, steelers they're basically equal organizations in 596 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 5: terms of where they. FINISHED i, mean they're both in 597 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 5: the playoffs a. Lot they're both. Good you, know they've gone. 598 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 5: Far they don't pick top, five you. KNOW i, mean 599 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 5: we can say that they're pretty comparable. Organizations but over that, 600 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 5: stretch The ravens have had a lot more draft capital 601 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 5: than The, steelers which isn't The steelers. Fault it's The 602 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 5: ravens being great at the comp. Game, now if you're 603 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 5: one of those teams that are great at the comp, 604 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 5: game AND i get an extra third or fourth pick every. 605 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 5: Year no one's great at. Drafting that's that's a. Misnomer 606 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 5: some teams are better than others at. Drafting dale might 607 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 5: hit fifty five percent AND i hit forty eight, Percent 608 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 5: so he's a better drafter than. 609 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: Me but it's not seventy verse. Twenty i'm you know 610 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 2: WHAT i. 611 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 5: Mean but if he has twenty picks AND i have, 612 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 5: ten his team's gonna. 613 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: Be a thousand times better than. 614 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 5: Me if he's a better, draft, well and it's the 615 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 5: thing twenty and he has, ten might will be better 616 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 5: Even i'm a worst. 617 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 3: Draft for, years The steelers really didn't work a lot 618 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 3: in the free agent, pool right. 619 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: Right they were all these one year. 620 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: Deals but now when you sign these, guys he's outside 621 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: guys to one year deals or a two year deal 622 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 3: and you're willing to allow them to, walk or you 623 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 3: trade for a guy and you allow him to walk 624 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: and they sign a new deal that works in the 625 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 3: factors in your comp. Game and that's what The ravens 626 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: have done. 627 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 5: Extreme over the, years extremely. Well they were ahead of the. 628 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 5: Curve i'm not saying The steelers are behind The. Ravens were. 629 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 5: Ahead The niners have been. 630 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: Ahead you. 631 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 5: Know right, now The steelers And niners are set up 632 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 5: for tons of compicts next. Year, yea and, yeah The 633 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 5: niners lost, guys but they were all. Due it's like 634 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 5: nausey and more that you knew were. Coming you know 635 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 5: that you're gonna get something in. Return it's absolute. GOLD 636 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 5: i mean, again the worst drafters give them ten picks 637 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 5: compared to the best drafters at. 638 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: Five the worst drafters will probably be better. Off you, 639 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 2: know they got, more, more more bites at the apple, apple, 640 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: Right i'll take two safeties and he wanted them to. 641 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 3: Hit it's one of the amazing things that YOU i 642 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: had ALWAYS i always find it funny after the after the, 643 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: draft the teams that that get graded well for. 644 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 2: Drafting oh they had a great. 645 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 3: Draft yeah they had four first round they had two 646 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 3: first round, picks or they had three first round. 647 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: PICKS i would certainly hope better be better at itild the. 648 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 2: Draft yeah. Exactly oh you. 649 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: Got you Got wilson And Sauce gardner in the same. 650 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 2: Draft, GEE i that's a pretty good. Draft yeah, yeah 651 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: oh you picked. That oh that is. Shocking good for, you. Shocking, yeah, 652 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: yeah you could my daughter could have picked those two guys. 653 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 5: Exactly, meanwhile you look At Kevin colbert's career and his 654 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 5: average first round pick that he, earned not where he 655 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 5: selected for Like, troy it was twenty four is twenty. 656 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 5: FOURTH i, mean there's a lot of thirties in. There 657 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 5: there's a lot of twenty, eight twenty. Nine's there's not many. 658 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 5: Fours two there's no force and. Two's that means No Jonathan, 659 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 5: ogden's No, biselli's you, know like the no brainer offensive. 660 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 2: Tackles you have no chance at. 661 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 4: You And Mike tomlin said it best right when he 662 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 4: when he walked up To Chase young when they were 663 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 4: playing in watching that one. 664 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: Year he's, like hey, Man he's, like you're a good. 665 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 4: PLAYER i never want to be bad enough to draft, you, right, yeah. 666 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: Right, yes. 667 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: Right the more impressive thing is that you did get 668 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 3: The Cam, haywards you did get THE. Tj, Wats you 669 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: sure Get Ben, roethlis but you Got Troy Paula. Maaler 670 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: these Are hall Of fame players you found that talent 671 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: that you found at the end of the first. Round 672 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 3: are in the middle of the first. 673 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 5: Round no respect Of Miles. Garrett but my sister could 674 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 5: draft The Miles. GARRETT i, mean, yeah my daughter could 675 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 5: Draft Lebron or that's not brainer, locker you, know, right 676 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 5: those guys are. Easy the other thing that day AND 677 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 5: i talk about A, ton it's not an accident that 678 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 5: they're probably gonna Add Aaron, Rogers, slay Even. Metcalf none 679 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 5: of those guys were, UFA's so they don't count against 680 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 5: your comp, game you, know Like sleigh was, Cut rogers was. 681 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 5: Cut they're much more attractive than the, others say or 682 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 5: the other. 683 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: Corner that's just a TRUE ufa because Now i'm getting 684 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: an extra. Pick you sign him to you sign. It 685 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: let's say they sign. 686 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 3: Pick a cornerback that The murphy or to a four, 687 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: year eighty million dollar. Deal, well that cancels out the 688 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 3: third round pick you're gonna get For Dan, moore right, 689 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: right just a. 690 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: Watch so now you've just lost that third round. 691 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: Pick you get the, player which is, nice but is 692 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: he that much better than one year Of Darius? 693 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: Slay that's what you got to ask. 694 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 5: Yourself and the beauty is if you can continue to 695 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 5: add com picks every, Year like next, year there's goun 696 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 5: be A ton. Coming can the year after? That can 697 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 5: they consistently have a trickle in or a. Wave and 698 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 5: the beauty is if you draft, well you never let 699 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 5: your good guys hit free, agency and you just kind 700 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 5: of dumped the spare change knowing That i'll draft behind, 701 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 5: him you, know Like i'm not picking On, nause but 702 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 5: he wasn't a great fit in his own, scheme so they. 703 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: Probably knew not to say he's got a great. Back 704 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: it doesn't, matter. 705 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 5: Yea so they probably knew a year ago that he'll 706 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 5: yield us a. 707 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: Compic we'll find a better one in this. Draft you. 708 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 5: Know it's it's just forward, planning and people don't think 709 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 5: this team plans things, out aren't paying. 710 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: Attention and think about the tampering, period, RIGHT i mean tampering. 711 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 4: Period now gives you a bigger glimpse into that because 712 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 4: like you, said you look At San, francisco they let 713 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 4: go twelve, veterans, right ten were signed before we even 714 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 4: got to free. 715 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: Agency, steelers same. 716 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 4: Thing not a lot of guys on the, Streets, no 717 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: in the streets that that we let, go those are 718 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 4: all gonna be. There and the teams that were leaving three, guys, 719 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 4: yep you know that that are still sitting. 720 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: There it's like you aren't good at the cop. 721 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 4: Game we aren't going to see. That what's your acquisitions 722 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 4: because we do this. Sheet spreadsheet shows key, additions key. 723 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 4: Losses if your key losses is greater than your key, 724 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 4: additions you're gonna gets that the other way. Around it's pretty. 725 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 5: Simple key editions weren't, UFAs you're definitely gonna compicks if 726 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 5: they were cut, dudes, right they don't. Count they don't, 727 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 5: count or if you sign them after the. DRAFT i 728 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 5: mean there's a lot of dudes sitting out there now 729 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 5: that are good football. Player we're going to play football 730 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 5: somewhere this. Year but if you sign him after the, 731 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 5: draft they don't count. Anymore go GRAB. Jk dobbins or 732 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 5: whoever you, want you, KNOW i mean someone that's a 733 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 5: good football, player you. 734 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: Know, yeah it's all part of the game. Here AND 735 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: i think it's just. 736 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: Loopholes, yeah there's and everybody wants to play the loopholes 737 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: and and you, know push. 738 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: Pushes, Exactly steelers just push. 739 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: Drafters and no it's not because the draft is In 740 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 3: pittsburgh next. 741 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: Year that has nothing to do with. This this is 742 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: just how it happened to. 743 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 3: A ligne because this is basically year three For omar 744 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 3: and this, group. 745 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 5: And he's and he's had a, chance and LIKE i, 746 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 5: said he can really put his stamp on the whole. 747 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: Plan and he's churned this roster actively for the last two. 748 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: Years, well that's you, know that's the other thing that 749 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 3: gets so. AGAIN i tweeted at all my stuff today 750 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: and all the quotes and. Stuff steelers haven't made any. 751 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 3: Changes what are you talking. About they haven't made any. 752 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: Changes that's. 753 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 4: Ridiculous there's been a hundred new faces over the last 754 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 4: two years that have been in training. 755 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 5: Camp, YEAH i mean that scouting, departments an. 756 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: Absurd number of. 757 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: Guys the coaching staff has been almost completely turned over 758 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: in the last two. Years you went out and you 759 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 3: traded FOR Dk. Metcalf nobody wants to consider that a 760 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: free agency, move but realistically that was a free agent. 761 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 6: Move. 762 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, well they weren't making that trade twenty years ago. Either, 763 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 5: NO i mean The maka trade was a big. DEAL i, 764 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 5: mean how often were they trading For Pro bowl players 765 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 5: over the our. Lifetime not very. Often it just doesn't. 766 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: Happen it doesn't, happen period because usually those guys don't get, 767 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: traded so. 768 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: Like to, me this is Even the best example is 769 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 5: from the day after they Drafted David dicastro in the first. 770 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 5: Round there was a ten year stretch from WHAT i, 771 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 5: remember where they drafted a total of like four offensive, 772 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 5: linemen one of which in the first two. Rounds some 773 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 5: of them are fifth. ROUNDERS i, mean There's chukes in. 774 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: There there's more in the long. 775 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 5: Stretch and the other part of, it you Had. Munchak 776 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 5: you could take a free agent and tournament Into villain 777 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 5: a waver or foster, too so you had some magic the. 778 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 5: Starter but it's really bad economically to go ten years 779 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 5: with only drafting two or three linemen because there's such a. Shortage, 780 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 5: Well omar comes in here and he's drafted five and 781 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 5: two years two in the first, round one and the. 782 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: Second you're, like, yeah that's just. 783 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 5: ECONOMICS i, mean the game has changed since. Then i'm 784 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 5: not condemning the old way of doing. Things they were very, 785 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 5: successful but there's no way you can go that long 786 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 5: without putting draft resources into o line because it's the 787 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 5: hardest thing to. 788 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: Find it's not a. 789 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 5: Quarterback and If Dan moore hits free, agency he gets 790 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 5: twenty million and you have a third round pick, back 791 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 5: so you get more than even put into. 792 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 4: THEM i mean it's great, exactly and you're not putting 793 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 4: that bill right, right and now you get to go 794 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 4: find the new young lineman that could come give you 795 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 4: at least four or five years and then he'll do the. 796 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: Same my favorite one of that was they Drafted Calvin 797 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: beacham as almost he was almost the last pick in the. 798 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 3: Draft there were like two guys taken after. Him, yeah 799 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 3: and you were able to turn him Into James. 800 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 2: Connor. 801 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 5: Yep so sounds like the storm's coming, here pretty hot and. 802 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: Heavy they might want us. 803 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 3: To, okay, well before we get out of, HERE i 804 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 3: did want to play back What Omar kahn had to say. 805 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 2: Today so let's do that to a close out the. 806 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 2: Show we're gonna get to a break right. 807 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 3: Now when we come, back we'll hear what The Omar 808 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 3: kahn had to say to the assembled media here earlier. 809 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 2: Today right after, this he Is Max, Starks I'm Dale. 810 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 3: Lolly that Is Matt, williams and you're listening to the 811 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 3: special edition of The drive here on The Steelers Audio. 812 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: Network he's The drive With Dale lolly And Matt williamsons 813 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of The black 814 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: And Gold Steelers Nation. 815 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: Radio welcome. Back I'm Dale. Lalli he Is Matt williams 816 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 2: And Max. 817 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: STARKS i just stepped away, here but we're gonna UH 818 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 3: i DID i did want to play Back omar con 819 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 3: today at The STEELERS gm over at the media. Table 820 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 3: here a lot of a lot of questions here For 821 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 3: omar regarding the particular this particular, team about the, quarterback 822 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: all that kind of. 823 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: Stuff so let's hear What omar had to. 824 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 6: SAY i know you guys will ask about THE qb. 825 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 7: Position i'll just say, that you, know we always go 826 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 7: to training camp with four, quarterbacks and we have two 827 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 7: under contract right. Now so all options are on the, table, 828 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 7: uh through free, agency you, know trade or draft, Obviously 829 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 7: so all options are on the. 830 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 6: Table but have been taking me, Questions, omark even if 831 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 6: things don't work. 832 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: Out with that one guy you're pursuing The trana allowed. 833 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 8: To talk about you Steele, field you have to bring 834 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 8: in a veteran quarterback. 835 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 6: Regarding, yeah you, Know i'd Say i'd be to say 836 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 6: that's a safe. Assumption. 837 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: More there was a. 838 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 6: Report today THAT dk was throwing With. Aaron can you 839 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 6: read anything into? THAT i wasn't, there but, uh that's that's. 840 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 6: Good if that did, Happen i'd say THAT i. 841 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 9: That did that visit that happens week and a half. 842 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 9: Ago what was your takeaway from Having rogers in the 843 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 9: building and having come it was? 844 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 7: POSITIVE i, thought you, KNOW i thought it was important 845 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 7: for uh us to get to know him and for 846 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 7: him to get to know. Us And i'm glad we 847 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 7: we we were part of. 848 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 6: It mike, said there's not necessarily deadline for everybody can 849 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 6: make a. Decision but when you look at, this you're 850 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 6: expecting the decision in, days, weeks. Months at what kind 851 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 6: of time frame were your? Anticipating you? 852 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 7: KNOW I I i learned a long time ago, that, 853 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 7: uh when it comes to free, agency you, know, uh 854 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 7: things just kind of happened when they. 855 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 6: HAPPENED i learned that a long time, ago and you, 856 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 6: know se where it. Goes anything you could say about 857 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 6: the offer be a one year or two. Years, now you, 858 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 6: know we don't we don't discuss the. Contract goo. Chat, 859 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 6: well why y y you don't have a second round 860 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 6: draft pick now after THE dk? Trade do you. 861 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 3: Wanna try to get back into that situation that you've 862 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 3: gathered or potentially gathered some compics next. 863 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 6: Year would that be a possibility. 864 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 3: To Maybe i'll lose some of those get back into 865 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 3: the second round. 866 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 6: This, year or, yeah THAT'S i would. SAY i think 867 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 6: you guys have got to know me over the last 868 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 6: couple of, years you, KNOW i THINK i think all options. 869 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 7: Are a, table you, know staying, put moving, out moving. 870 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 7: Back i'm Not i'm. Not i'm open to. Anything so 871 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 7: if it makes sense for us. 872 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 10: Looking at the the process of the compact formula and 873 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 10: everything like, that looking like the projected to get at 874 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 10: the maximum before as a stand right, now is that 875 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 10: intentional what you guys are doing that but pursuing guys 876 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 10: that when you sign guys they. 877 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 11: Don't play into that pot that intentional Saying cambo that Next, 878 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 11: YEAH i would. 879 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 6: SAY i, MEAN i wouldn't, necessarily you, know say that 880 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 6: it's not for next. 881 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 7: Year What i'll say is, that you, know we were 882 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 7: in a position this year we kind of understood where 883 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 7: our contracts were with our free, agency and that there's 884 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 7: a that there possibly does exist good possibly it does 885 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 7: exist for us to, uh you, know acquire compis and 886 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 7: so that's that's always been a part of the process this. 887 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 7: Year and you, KNOW i mean you you guys are intelligent. 888 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 6: People you, guys you guys can kind of read through 889 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 6: it and see. It but you know the fact that 890 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 6: we've had the opportunity to acquire. 891 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 7: PICKS i don't know exactly how it was gonna shake out, 892 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 7: yet but that's obviously been something like to take it 893 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 7: into consideration with you. 894 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 6: Take a great liberty start with friend. Us. Uh you 895 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 6: guys should usually like to use free agency. 896 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 3: To either supplement the draft or possibly you, know the 897 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 3: limit of what you have to do with you you 898 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 3: didn't get a defensive. 899 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 6: Line. 900 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 8: Uh does that increase the likelihood or the possibility of 901 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 8: the urgency to get AN nba? 902 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 7: One you know we we have you, KNOW i like 903 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 7: the group we still. Have you, know we did sign 904 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 7: That kawali uh he he's done some really good. Things 905 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 7: Logan lee is healthy he he uh he has a 906 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 7: chance to step up. 907 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 6: And be a part of. It but you, KNOW i 908 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 6: feel good about some of the guys now on the. 909 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 7: Line but you, Know, jerry as AS i always, say 910 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 7: is if there's an opportunity to improve any any, position, 911 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 7: group we're gonna look at. 912 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 8: It was there a desire big make sure defensive line 913 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 8: to eventually give that the same kind of a. 914 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: Desire big picture with. 915 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 8: Defensive line to eventually give it the same kind of 916 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 8: attention you give offensive Line over the last. 917 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 6: Two, years especially with him getting, older it Was cam getting. 918 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 2: Older, Yeah. 919 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 7: I'd, say you, know you, know the trenches are. Important 920 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 7: i've always talked about those big guys on the both. 921 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 6: Sides of the. 922 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 7: Ball so you, know we we understand where we're at 923 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 7: the trade OF. 924 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 11: Dk does that change any big picture thing with With 925 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 11: george or or your thoughts on him in the. 926 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 7: Future, no you, know you need more than one receiver 927 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 7: in this, league and we're fortunately we Have george And 928 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 7: calvin and excited about What roman's gonna be able to 929 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 7: do for. 930 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 6: Us So kenny's putting free agency you wanted to get 931 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 6: done if you, Haven't, ah that's a good, question you. 932 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 6: KNOW i think when you go into pre agency you 933 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 6: always you set. 934 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 7: Out a plan and hopefully things work out and you. 935 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 7: Adjust and BUT i don't think anybody will tell. 936 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 6: You that they. Can they feel like they can address 937 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 6: everything in one free agency. 938 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 8: Round when you look At jalen do do you view 939 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 8: him as a starter capable, player and how do you 940 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 8: view him in the long. 941 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 6: TERM i do view him as a as a starter. 942 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 7: CAPABLE i, mean he's he's played a lot of football for, 943 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 7: us so obviously we have a lot of confidence and. 944 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 6: You, know he has a big opportunity this year and 945 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 6: we'll see how it. 946 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 9: Goes when we talked with you a month ago at the, 947 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 9: combat you said it was your preference to resign Either 948 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 9: justin Or. Russ obviously neither one of them ended up under. 949 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 6: Contract are you at all surprise in the way that 950 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 6: the things worked? Out you, know it's free. 951 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 7: AGENCY i think we we understand and you know when 952 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 7: when you go into free, agency you, know players. 953 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 6: Have the opportunity to look at other. Things we have 954 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 6: the opportunity to look. 955 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 7: At other, things and and things just sort of happened With. 956 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 6: Justin did it come down to better opportunity for? Him 957 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 6: was it his decision or was there a price tag? 958 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 6: DETERMINATION i mean it but he was, free SO i, 959 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 6: mean you guys left That. 960 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 7: Justin BUT i will, say, Man justin class act AND 961 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,439 Speaker 7: i can't say enough good things about. 962 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 6: Him he's great to have a. Round what was your 963 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 6: offer competitive of what the justice. 964 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 7: We won't, GET i can't Get i'm not gonna get 965 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 7: into a contract. 966 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 6: Stuff but you know he decided to go to The. 967 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 9: Jets what point did you kind of realized that he 968 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 9: was gonna end up testing the market BECAUSE i know 969 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 9: when you expressed expressed preference it was to have it 970 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 9: done before the the year. 971 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 7: Started, yeah you, KNOW i don't know if there was 972 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 7: an exact moment where we we we felt that, way 973 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 7: but you, know, again when the players are. 974 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 6: Created you kind of understand and so that's how it's gonna. 975 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 6: Go and you know he's not not just, him but 976 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 6: you know all these, guys you, know if they have 977 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 6: to think it's they. 978 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 7: Don't feel good about, something they'll they'll, uh they'll take 979 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 7: it to pre agency and. 980 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 6: Just see where it. Goes of a trade at the quarterback, 981 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 6: position that is that something you. 982 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 8: Can kind of plan, for think about or you just 983 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 8: kind of have to be in a position LIKE i 984 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 8: don't think any was talking About Geno smith getting trade 985 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 8: and then all of a sudden he gets. Traded you 986 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 8: just kind of have to work in the moment with 987 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 8: that kind of. 988 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 7: Thing, yeah you, KNOW i think by this time as 989 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 7: you're asking as we are right, here we kind of have. 990 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 6: A feel for what's out there and what other teams are. 991 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 7: Thinking and then you, know conversations uh you know happened. 992 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 6: Here they happened on the phone and started the combine 993 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 6: usually and so we have an idea what's what's, uh 994 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 6: what's out there at this point that's it's not a quarterbacks. 995 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 2: Said the. 996 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 6: Combine he had playmakers on. Offense then a couple of 997 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 6: weeks later you get D k did he was he 998 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 6: always in the mind or did that come quite? 999 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 7: Quickly just a good, question just think back, here what's 1000 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 7: your definition will come? 1001 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 6: Quickly, like, uh lesson a? Week i'd say that it 1002 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 6: was probably THINK i think that's that's probably. Accurate it's 1003 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 6: probably just a little lesson a. 1004 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 2: Week keep. 1005 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,240 Speaker 6: Size uh we had had he did a press. CONFERENCE 1006 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 6: R yeah he did. It, YEAH i mean you saw. 1007 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 6: Him he's a. 1008 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 7: Playmaker really enjoying getting to know. Him, uh you, GUYS 1009 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:54,919 Speaker 7: i think you guys will. 1010 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 6: Too. H he has a desire to win and be 1011 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 6: great AND i love that about. 1012 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 7: Him and that's just excited when he's gonna bring to 1013 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 7: call Up his. 1014 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 4: Free agency approach Was mason always in the back of 1015 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 4: your mind as nothing that you wouldn't have as an. 1016 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 7: Option i'd, say you, know When mason signed a one 1017 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 7: year deal last, year you, know obviously he would be 1018 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 7: available to. Anyone and but we had a relationship with, 1019 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 7: him and you, know felt really good About mason when 1020 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 7: he was, here and like you, know last, year different 1021 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 7: things happened and you, know we he uh he ended 1022 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 7: up planning In tennessee, obviously and, uh you, know we 1023 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,399 Speaker 7: we we had a need of the position that you guys, 1024 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 7: know and and he was available and had an interest 1025 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 7: in coming. Back and you, know our our experience With 1026 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 7: mason's been you, know relatively. Positive so he made sense 1027 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 7: with the. Future have a lot of confidence In. 1028 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 9: Mason do you feel like it in the timing of 1029 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 9: when you ACQUIRED, dk was there any anxiety or nerves 1030 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 9: that you're acquiring a big time playmaker of his caliber 1031 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 9: before you have the quarterback situation Where doud did you 1032 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 9: almost maybe go out of order at? 1033 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 6: All or is that a Consideration that's a good. Question 1034 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 6: i'll just, say when you have the opportunity, to, uh you, 1035 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 6: know obtain a player of that, caliber at least the 1036 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 6: way we SEE, DK I i don't think you. Can you, 1037 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 6: know you wait. Around at those, opportunities you have to 1038 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 6: jump at. 1039 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 7: Him and it it worked, out and you, know he 1040 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 7: wanted to be here when we wanted him, here and 1041 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 7: we were gonna let. 1042 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 6: That opportunity to. 1043 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 9: Go did he express any apprehension about not knowing who 1044 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 9: might be throwing him to? 1045 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 7: Football you, know we had a lot of conversations about you, 1046 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 7: know he he had conversations with the coaches and and 1047 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 7: myself about the roster and the team and, uh you, 1048 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 7: know we had some candid conversations. 1049 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 6: And he he, uh he, knew you, know w what 1050 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 6: our plans were and you, know still all coming. 1051 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 7: Together when when we talked to Like tom when he 1052 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 7: said there wasn't necessarily a, deadline but he did call 1053 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 7: a training camp a line of. 1054 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 3: Demarcation are you comfortable letting it play out to that 1055 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 3: point Where Aaron? 1056 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 6: Rodgers you, KNOW, i LIKE i SAID i WHEN i 1057 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:49,919 Speaker 6: WHEN i got. 1058 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 7: Here you, know we have two wonder contract we need 1059 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 7: we need at least two More so all options are 1060 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 7: on the table right, now how more with THE k 1061 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 7: one More so the process did become available when you 1062 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 7: go To mike And art And Arthur. 1063 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 6: Arthur Art grooming and, say, hey you'll never guess who 1064 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 6: might be. 1065 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,479 Speaker 10: Available how did that process work? 1066 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 7: Out so you, know amongst the, GMS i, like you, 1067 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 7: know we we have a conversations and you, know we'll 1068 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 7: WE'LL i Know John schneider very well and, uh you 1069 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 7: know we we touched. FACE i can't remember who called who, 1070 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 7: first and you, know the kind of conversations just kind. 1071 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 6: Of took, took, uh took on a life of its. 1072 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 6: Own from, There god's two more so we can get. 1073 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 8: In you got a forty million dollar edge rusher in THE, Nfl, 1074 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 8: now is that's where you saw that market? 1075 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 6: Going and uh what do you make of? That uh 1076 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 6: you're talking about the H. 1077 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 7: Garretts at the top of The, yeah, YEAH i mean it's, 1078 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 7: UH I i don't expect salaries to go, down so expect. 1079 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 6: Them to keep, increasing uh year to. Year i'm sure 1080 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 6: that's like in your industry, too, right and uh do 1081 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 6: you see that you being able to play in that 1082 00:45:59,280 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 6: market at that? 1083 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 7: Point i'll just you, know we're not Gonna i'm not 1084 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 7: gonna get the contract. Numbers but if you're you're front 1085 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 7: to T, J i Assume i'll just say. THAT I, 1086 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 7: Uh i'm very hopeful THAT tj will finish his career 1087 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 7: as a stealing. 1088 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 11: Well more after a couple of years of having a 1089 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 11: couple of one year situation to, quarterback do you are 1090 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 11: you confident and then whether it's this year or in 1091 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 11: the draft next, year are you confident in the long 1092 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 11: term plane at the building to address a long term 1093 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 11: plan head? 1094 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 7: Quarterback you, know it's it's not an Easy, uh it's not, 1095 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 7: Ideal i'll put it that, way you, know having to you, know. 1096 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 6: Dress we addressed it last, Year we're dressing it this. 1097 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 6: Year at some. 1098 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 7: Point you, know there has to be a we have 1099 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,720 Speaker 7: to find, that, uh the long term, Solution i'll. Say 1100 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 7: so that might happen this, year you, know it can 1101 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 7: happen next, year but, uh you know in the meantime 1102 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 7: where we're we're gonna keep doing whatever we can to 1103 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 7: win the championship this. 1104 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 2: Year all, right. 1105 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 6: You. 1106 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 3: Guys and that Was steelers general Manager You're Omar kahn 1107 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 3: with the Assembled pittsburgh media earlier, today and, uh interesting 1108 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 3: stuff there and a. 1109 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 2: Lot of interesting stuff going on around here, too. 1110 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 3: Around here as, Well AND i know we were supposed 1111 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 3: to be on for three hours. Today but there is 1112 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 3: a storm that is threatening us here and we're outside 1113 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 3: lightning and, Thunder and DID i mentioned? Lightning if the 1114 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 3: Late Craig wolfy was, here he would already be in the. Car. 1115 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah the wolf a. 1116 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 3: Family for those that don't, KNOW i Think wolf had 1117 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 3: like three family members struck by lightning over the. 1118 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 2: Years he was deathly afraid fighters and. 1119 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 5: Lightning for a, big, strong strapping. FELLOW i always made 1120 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 5: the joke he's just a big. 1121 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 3: TARGET i can remember us doing his show at Took 1122 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 3: Off OTAs one year and it started, thundering AND i 1123 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 3: See wolf, going, oh, yeah, well what's. Wrong well there's there's. 1124 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 3: Thunder i'm, like, okay, yeah but we're back under the 1125 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 3: under the awning. HERE i DON'T i don't do, Thunder, 1126 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 3: Okay so we moved it back. Inside but uh, yeah 1127 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 3: it's Been we'll be back again. Tomorrow hopefully we're able 1128 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 3: to get a three hour show in tomorrow, again whether 1129 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 3: it's not supposed to rain. Tomorrow but apologize to everybody 1130 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 3: about the show getting cut short today and we promised three. 1131 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 2: Hours but we can't control mother. Nature that's just the 1132 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 2: way it. 1133 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 3: Is but for my Partner Matt williamson For Max starks 1134 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 3: making sure that everybody gets all the info, here as 1135 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 3: well For justin Miller beck in the studio making sure 1136 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 3: the show sounds all right on the. Air I'm Dale. 1137 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 3: Lallie we thank you for listening to this edition of 1138 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 3: The drive on The Steelers Audio. 1139 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 2: Network