WEBVTT - 2024 NFL Draft Grades: NFC East | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:04.760 On today's episode of the Command Center Podcast, we review 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:07.360 every single draft pick and talk about how we feel 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:11.040 with a p and Dan Quinn working together and seeing 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:13.680 the results, sticking to their board and it was great stuff. 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:17.400 And then we give draft grades to everybody in our division. 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.759 El Cowboys, El Philly, El Giants, if one are the 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.160 actual grades. Stay tuned to find out. It all starts 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:24.720 right out. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.239 Welcome into the Command Center Podcast, Eye Logan Paulson here 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:34.320 with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss and we got a 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.480 great show today. We're gonna tea. We're gonna review all 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:38.760 the draft picks, every single of them. We're gonna review 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:41.800 drafts within the division, give them grades. 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:43.800 You know, Cowboys probably gonna get a D. I haven't 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.120 even seen their draft yet, be d probably the first 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.440 things first, let's talk about what I got on man? 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.800 You got me on your chase good, I know, right 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:51.279 over your heart. 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:52.760 Kind of a bummer. I kind of wish I could 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:54.120 just do like one of those guys. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.800 Well, we got merch down, we got merch and we 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.880 got this shirt and we got that hawk out side 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.360 hawk outs that and these are exclusive shirts. You can 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.040 only get them at live events. Yes, so if you 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:07.480 want a shirt, there's no place to order him. You 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.679 got to come to our live event Jason that we're 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.600 gonna be doing, and then any other thing that Fred's 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.800 at because apparently the producer gave or our boss gave 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:14.479 you like a bunch of shirts. 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.280 Yeah, yeah, post damn. So you can see me around 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:16.720 in the DMV. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.000 Just asked me for a shirt, I'll pull one out 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:20.319 of my back pocket. 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:22.840 Perfect only three huh. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:24.800 But in addition to the shirts, we also have a 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.680 great lineup of content. Yeah, your show Get Loud, which 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.679 I was on YouTube. It's you and Michael Jenkins, and 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.280 you had Tom Lougan Bill. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.360 Yes, I said, all right, right Lougan Bill. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.600 He's a reporter from ESPN National Recruiting director and he 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.360 is so good. He has followed Jaden, like I guess 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.400 since he was like since in high school all the 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:47.680 way through, so he probably had great insight. 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.480 He had great insight on where he's came from. 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:51.920 And it hit me out a lot to know what 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.440 he's got started and what he's got made into and 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.120 like he said, him getting better year in the year out. 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:58.160 Difference in him. 0:01:58.320 --> 0:01:59.960 You know, I don't like to listen to you anytime 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.360 I'm not at work, so I might actually have to 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:02.720 listen to that. 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:04.040 Please do, please do? 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.600 All right, Then we got the Ticket to the Draft podcast, 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.280 which is on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and that's that. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.080 We've done an instant reaction the first and second round, 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:14.840 second and third round picks. Right, are we gonna do 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.160 another one, Jason? Or are we done? We're done? That's it. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:18.800 Make sure you check those out. And then we got 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.320 an exclusive interview with Dayton, with Jayden and Daniels. That's 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.040 on YouTube. And is that just on the regular YouTube channel? 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:24.280 Yep. 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.200 And we got command Center, which is our flagship program, 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.160 and we do a complete breakdown of the draft. It's 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.400 our flagship show. It's like Sports Center, but just for 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.600 the Commanders only US, Yeah, only US. And then we 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.960 got Free Agent Fridays, which is another show, great show, 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:46.520 and this week it's Bobby Wagner answering fan questions. So 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.120 that sounds like a great line up of content. If 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:49.880 you're a Commanders fan and you're not watching this, I 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:50.600 don't know what you're doing. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:51.480 Just googage on it. 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:52.320 Just come on over there. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.720 Yeah, all right, now, let's talk about it the draft. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:57.880 Yes, what happened. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:59.639 It was so good and it was the first time 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.320 we got to see Dan and HadAM working together. Yeah 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.840 and so yeah, I wanted to get your thoughts on that. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.680 Let's start with Freddie always start. We can start right now. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:09.200 Do I storry? 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:10.880 You know what I got from this draft? 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.680 They showed me what the identity of the team is 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.080 gonna be in the future. I looked at most of 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.400 these draft picks, and I think besides Johnny knew that 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.119 none of these guys was like five star athletes coming out. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.720 These guys built themselves in college. 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.880 They got better year in and year out, and then 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.960 some guys just stick out like should not being sat. 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.160 This guy is a tight end full back hybrid reminds 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.360 me of hughes Check a lot like he's a guy, 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.600 he's a tone setter like and he was the only 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.080 one of him in this draft. All the other tight 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.520 ends were just preord tight ends. He was the only 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.320 guy up this ILK in his draft and Mike Sanders 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.279 skrill I've been smiling in my sleep. 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:56.160 Ever since we drafted this guy. 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.480 And like I told Tannel, we were talking about it. X. 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.120 I love Coners that played wide out. We have a 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.600 whole different view of the game. And then you throw 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.680 a guy like Luke McCaffrey and they play quarterback, running back. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:09.200 Wide receiver. 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.960 I think what they did in this draft gonna gonna 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:14.440 have good effects on. 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:15.880 This team for the next four or five years. 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:18.400 Yeah, we'll talk more about the specific guys in a minute, 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.400 but like you know, it's it's the first time we 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:22.680 get to see Dan and hout of working together, you 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:23.279 know what I'm saying. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:24.360 I mean, it was great watching. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:28.120 I mean especially you know, we was live right there, 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.400 right there in the trenches in Detroit, and it was 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:35.440 funny because you know, we were screaming men be miskept, 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.400 you know, talking to you you know, to each other 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.440 about just the needs of having that office to tackle, 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.040 you know what I mean. And one day we was 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.200 gonna pull the trigger, and we was all hoping that 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.880 we kind of you know, that first night we stayed 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.200 there because even though we picked, we had our pick 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:49.560 at two. 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.080 Ye we stayed the whole entire draft just. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.279 Hoping that maybe they're you know, back in you know, 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:55.440 get back in the first round. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.360 And when it wasn't done. 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.280 You know, I was a bitter taste, but at the 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.640 same time, like, these guys know what they're doing. They 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.400 not reaching, just they gotta And I think we get 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.560 so used to just being on these being in a 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.440 part of this organization and seeing us reach, seeing us 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:11.360 go out there and get. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.920 That big name and spend that big money on them. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.960 Just because everybody said that that's what we're supposed to get. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.240 So when you really look at the draft as a whole, man, 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.560 these guys really strategically set there man, and and pick 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.719 the guy that fits the mode of player that they 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.560 looking for, cadibor player that they're looking for. And when 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.320 I watched that, those guys highlights and I'm like, wow, 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.719 that's football. That's what they want here. That's what they want. 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:34.719 Guys to be physical, they want guys to fly around. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.479 And you said it jokingly, saying it, Hey, it's gonna 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.440 be tough making this squad because they got ball players here. 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.880 So you know, it was great, man, just to sit 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.640 back and hear the nations and you know, the people 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.560 outside of here talk about how how impressed they was 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:52.240 of some of the guys that we picked up, and 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.880 just how things are being you know, orchestrated around here. 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.719 Yeah, and I also thought it was like cool, like 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.480 from a like just logistical standpoint. You know, obviously the 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.880 product picks that they made were great and their process 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:03.680 was great, you know, like trying to get into the 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:05.200 first round, they don't do it. They're not going to 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.640 overspend all that kind of stuff that trade with Philly. 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.760 We'll talk about that more detail a second. But you know, 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:14.440 in the post day draft stuff, it's Adam doing the 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.520 presser right because it's Adam's show, you know what I'm saying. 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.280 But it never feels like Adam is like hellon yeah, right, 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.240 Like when Dan comes and talks to us, like we 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:24.600 did an interview with him. You can check that out 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.480 on the Commander's YouTube page. Also, he's very like of 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.919 the same messaging. You can tell they're on the same page. 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.480 Even though Adam is like buying the groceries, like you 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.440 like to say, Fred, it's fitting with Dan's vision. And 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.680 I look at this list and I see a lot 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.520 of guys that I would identify, you know, like when 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.040 you play for a coach, you're like. 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.440 That is a Dan guy, you know what I'm saying. 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.440 I go look at Dominique Hampton in the fifth round, 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.600 and like there could not be more of a Dan pick. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.159 So obviously Adam is able to say this is where 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.039 the talent is. Like you're saying, Tanna, we're not going 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.800 to reach on stuff. But I'm also understanding what the 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.480 coach wants in terms of the players that I'm selecting, 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.200 and I think there's something really cool about that in 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.080 the first draft, you know what I'm saying, like as 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.160 a foundational piece. The other thing I just wanted to 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.400 call attention to, and You've talked about this a little 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.359 bit already, Fred is like, I think they're good football players, 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.920 all these guys, but I think they have higher football character. 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:13.760 And what I mean about that is like when you 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.120 watch every single every one of these guys, there's no 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.920 exception on film. They are pouring it out. There are 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:21.800 a lot of captains on this list. And I just 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.040 think like, in terms of laying a foundation, obviously Adam, 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.720 obviously Dan had a vision basically saying we want we 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:32.000 don't want to be taking risks on crazy talented people. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:36.640 We want football players that are passionate and love football 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.360 and high football IQ. Yeah, you know, and I'm with that, 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.600 and so I think like that to me was something 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.400 that I took out of This was basically saying like 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.200 they there might have been more talented players available, but 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.720 not more talented players that fit the vision, right, which. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.000 Is what you need. Competitive tough sons of guns. 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.360 And in terms of a foundational piece, I look at 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.280 all these guys and they might never become like stars, 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.640 some of them, but they're all going to be good 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:02.600 pro and you. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:03.360 Know that already. 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:04.480 That's the thing about it. 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.560 You know, you know where the floor is with these guys, 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.120 and I think they weren't really worried about the ceiling. 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.320 I think they said, we're not going underneath this floor 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.800 type of player. And I think that's where this stuff 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.400 come in because everybody like tackle, tackle, tackle. 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:19.360 Then when I go. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:23.800 Back and study Brandon Coleman, Yeah, fifteen hundred snaps, three sacks, 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.360 three sacks, Yeah, three sacks, fifty five pressures, that's a 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:32.320 lot of football. And then his reach, they people understand 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.200 he got the reach of a seven foot. 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.960 Of thirty five in Yes, So that is crazy. 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.040 And I'm not saying he ain't, no, he Trent William 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.160 or nothing like this, but if you look at the 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.640 athletics score, oh, it's right there. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.360 And that's saying a lot because we know how I 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:48.640 let it trendy is and I. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.480 Think, you know, we're talking about Brennan Coleman, real quick, 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:51.439 tanna before we get going. 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:51.679 Is. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:53.600 One of the things about him that I love is that, 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:55.240 you know, he played a little bit more guard in 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.040 twenty twenty three, but in twenty twenty two he almost 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.719 played exclusively tackle. Yeah, I feel like they kind of 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:02.679 had him on the radar as a tackle. And then 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.800 when you look at the pre draft process, like everyone, 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.480 every single outlet, every the Senior Bowl, he had him 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.280 a guard and so but I think it just shows 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.800 the comprehensive nature which with they went through this process. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.720 They said, here's the guy that played left tackle for TCU, 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.959 won the national championship, right, and they throw a lot 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.880 and he was the guy and he's so he's on 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.720 our radar. And then we look at his athletic profile, 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.120 his physical profile. Yeah, thirty five inch arms around a 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.360 four nine forty, had a thirty four inch vertical. He 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.359 did great in the three cone of the pro agility 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.800 and you say, those are not garden measurables, those are 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.000 the tackles and you go watch the film and again, 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.320 I just love that they went this level of detail, 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.640 and you watch him set the pass rush it is 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.280 locked in. Yeah, like he's not he's not opening the gate. 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.640 He understands his angle, he's not over setting, and he's 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.959 got this thick, very powerful lower half. Yeah, he does, 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:52.760 and he can sit that stuff down. So you know, 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.160 like there's guys like DJ Humphries in Arizona that guard 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.800 like that prototypical tackle build but are very successful because 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:00.760 they got good feet, they got goold length, and they 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.280 understand the angle. And he does all three of those things. 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.560 Now just about can he do that at the next level? 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:05.840 Yeah? 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.400 And can't he do it over and over and over again? 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:08.640 No. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:10.800 I was impressed, man. And you know one of the 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.760 things about us, we're not trying to jump the gun. No, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:14.800 we want to We want to really want to paint 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.360 the picture of you know, these guys went out there 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.439 and really got some good football players. 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:20.880 And it showed up. You know. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.360 One of the things too, that be mis talked a 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.720 lot about, you know, hearing people talking about y'all watch 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.480 FAMI or highlights most of the stuff that we've seen 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.520 leading up to the Dravions highlights, But when you really 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.520 go dive deep and watch these guys play football. It 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.959 speaks about what we've already heard from these guys sitting 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.680 in these seats talking about the guys they want on 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.439 this team. And that's and that's what it makes you 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.199 smile when you really watch it and say, hmm, okay, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:42.960 I see what they trying. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:44.440 I see the mold they're trying to build here. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.840 And like I said, I think at least for these 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.240 guys are team captains. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:49.720 Yeah. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.400 Uh, I know, Sanders scrill team captain on the National 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.480 Championship defense. So at the end of the day, they 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.080 bring it in guys that not only do they do 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.120 they part on the footb field, but they do they 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.439 put out the field leaders leaders man. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.160 So let's just talk about the first three picks real quick, 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:08.080 because I think that's really interesting. Obviously Jay and Daniels 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:09.679 and we got Johnny Newton. 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:10.320 JA. 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.040 Yeah, I don't even know why I try to say, 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.360 let's stay with Johnny Johnny Newton and then uh, Mike Sanders. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.840 Still, let's talk about those three guys real quick. I'll 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:20.959 start it off. So, first off, you. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.880 Know, we've talked about Jayden and like nauseum right, was 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.600 definitely Johnny Newton. I had a first round grade on 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.040 and my and my board doesn't mean anything. 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.280 Everybody had a first round great, let's be serious. 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:32.040 And so the fact he's there and then they went 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.720 best player available to you talked about this like not 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.319 just say hey man, trust trust the process. We need 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.559 to get more talented on the football team. So let's 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.960 get a talented football player. And then Mike Sanders still 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.280 who's maybe pound for pound, the best player. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.360 In the draft, like Nick Sagan said it, and like the. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.840 Idea that you know, we already have a Buffalo Nickel 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.080 or a Nickel type player, and Kwan like, let's just 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.040 get more talented. Yeah, I think I think these first 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:55.840 three picks show that. 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:56.560 No, it was great. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.480 And then just speaking of Johnny Newton, you know, talking 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.839 about a key that everybody. I mean, he had the 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:03.800 first round greatest junior year. You know, he had a 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.160 first round grade that year, and then last year he 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.800 went out there dominated again. But folks are speculating saying, hey, 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.840 maybe because of the injury to his foot made him drop. 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:13.240 Who knows, who cares? 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.360 I mean, for him to be sitting there and we 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:17.960 went out there and attacked him. I was just surprised, 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.440 when you know, Jason said his name. I'm sitting there like, 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.959 hold on, Illinoise, he's still around. Jason said his name 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.240 twice to me, and it then't dawn on me that 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:26.600 who he. 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.440 Was talking to dominating. So I'm like, how's he still around? 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:30.120 The second round? 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.600 You know, I had no clue, and when we grabbed him, 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.920 I'm like, that is incredible because just knowing what we 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.040 already have, knowing how we do things, knowing now let's 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.079 take another look at it, knowing who we have now 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.520 is the decordinator, how they do things with their guys. 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.320 Maybe we don't have to worry about him playing as 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:46.720 much as he played in college. 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:47.400 He can be a. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:48.720 Guy that just brought in the game just to go 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:50.960 after the quarterback because he did that so well in college. 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.120 So it was just some of those things that stood 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:54.960 out to me. And then not to just you know, 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.960 spend that much time on him. You know what his 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.240 name is, Mike Sender. Still, you know, I hate missing 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.480 up names and I'll do it a lot still, just hey, 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.320 when you watch Michigan and you saw that secondary that 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.240 that zero always stood always, it always stood out. And 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:11.520 then just to hear a kid that say, hey, I 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.199 only been playing dB for two years, so the. 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.960 Sky's the limit for me and the Skouy's the limit 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:17.240 for me. 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.640 And just knowing a little bit about that, having the 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.719 background of being the dB first player receiver, knowing how 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.319 that kind of correlated, knowing how as a receiver, I 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.800 used to know what DB's thinking because I've been to dB. 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.680 It just it pays dividends to see why is paying 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:32.640 dividends for him to. 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:33.440 Be back in the position. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.880 So, like I said before, man, like those two guys 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.520 we can talk about you know, Jaydon Da Daniels all day. 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.839 Those two guys, Man, it was like, damn, we got 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.679 the best of the best at the best time. So 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.400 you know, that's what makes you just sit there and 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.400 have you know, so much confidence in knowing who's at 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.640 the him, you know, going out there, like you say, 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:51.520 buying our groceries. 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:51.719 Yeah. 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.400 And the thing about it is people forget that he 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.800 returns punch too, so he does. He can add to 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.880 your special team. He has to defense. And people like, 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.000 how you gonna take a nickelback. No, he's a football player. 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:09.040 He just happened to excel in the inside. So but listen, 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.400 he's one of those guys. I wouldn't have passed up. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.040 I would have had to grab him at that point. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.440 And when I saw us grab Johnny Nude, I said, 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.800 then I say every pick from now on his best 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.800 player available. Like I was like, they're not really finna 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.280 go chasing me. They finish, go best play available, Like 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.680 tanna say, I'm finna add talent to my team. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.000 Keep piling the stock file in it and when we 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:30.840 ready to explode, we'll be ready. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.360 We were sitting there and I ain't want to I 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.280 ain't gonna I want to say this before you started. 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.040 We were sitting there talking about what you think next, 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.360 and you know, we rolling the dice. We don't, we 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.520 have no clue, and it probably wasn't in the order, 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:44.240 but it was landing, you know what I mean. Was like, well, 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.600 we can get a receiver now, and it probably wasn't 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:48.160 that pick, but with the next pick, we gotta receive, 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:49.320 you know what I mean. So it was just it 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.600 was just kind of funny to us just knowing that, hey, 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:53.600 these are the value, these are the ass that you 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.160 can add value to our team. That we went out 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.920 because I wanted the bigger receiver I wanted, and you know, Hey, 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.120 you know, he's six tow he's not probably as big 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.120 as some of the guys that was a receivement. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.240 He's a big receiver on the team already. So it's 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:05.600 just great. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.120 And came from a good football pedigree, you see what 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.160 I'm saying, Like his his his his legacy when it 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.800 comes from dad to brothers, you know, it's all in 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.960 his blood. So it's just great to see how they 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:17.760 was picking our little you know what I mean, going 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:19.320 out there and say, hey, this is this guy here, 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.920 his background along speaks for himself, but this is the 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.640 kind of player we won't want dogs. He kept saying dogs, 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.920 and you can kind of put that by every guy's name, 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:28.440 that these guys have that in him. 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.800 Yeah, let's get to the next group. So it's Ben Snatt, 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.720 Randon Coleman, and Luke mccaffee, right, a nickname. Those are 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.080 kind of the offensive weapons. I guess you can say 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.680 that if we're calling that offensive tackle up in there too. 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.160 But you've fred you already talked about Ben Snatt in 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.440 terms of his versatility, his toughness, his ability to run routes, 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.720 and again the cow It's so funny, like when I 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:48.640 watched Kansas State. 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.880 He's the he's the offense, but he led to him 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:51.440 in everything. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.360 Yeah, he's the offense, by the way, But I had 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.480 this strongest, like these strongest Kyle. 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.520 Used check vibes when I watched him. Yes, I think 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.480 it's because he wears number thirty four, looks like a 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:00.840 full back. 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:01.520 Yeah, he got this. 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.400 But he's a good enough athlete to win versus man. 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:06.760 He's physical enough to block as a full back, and 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.160 he can block in line. He just gives you a 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.160 lot of flexibility, which is what the tight end position 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:11.400 is supposed to do. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.280 I was listening to one of his interviews and he 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.200 spoke and said a tight end and he watched was 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:16.120 Cooley growing up? 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.240 Oh really? They play Simar so. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.840 They hear that and he come here. I'm like, well, 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.680 I just crazy how this stuff kind of adds up, 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.360 you know what I mean. But to watch him, I 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.720 mean it, you know, I smiled just to know, I say, oh, 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.840 Ap in his bag. He going to get those same 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.280 guys that he's seen that that made it happen, be 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:34.840 of the night, know where he came from, you know 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.320 what I mean? And you want that around because these 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.920 offenses you talk about it all the time. You want 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:41.400 to be able to have a guy out there on 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.160 the field that you know, at times we saw what 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.320 we had at tight end, and you know, don't take 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:47.800 nothing away from him. I think though all those guys 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.200 did a great job. But you hate kind of I 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.760 guess you can say showing your hand. Yeah, having a 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.120 guy then you're like, oh, they running the ball, they're 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.640 passing the ball. Now you get a guy we cannot 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:00.960 read and say, oh, I'm getting out of this all right, 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:02.880 you spread out nine. You know, this guy could be 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.240 in the backfield, he could be on the back field, 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.320 he could beat on the wing, he can be anywhere 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.359 in your offense, and the defense can't really you know, 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.440 uh basically show their hand. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:12.879 They have to. 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.400 They have to sit there and and be wise enough. 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.760 So it's great to know that we add in that 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.480 kind of talent that we can be able to, you know, 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:20.439 have that kind of leverage. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:20.720 Yeah. 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:22.400 I'm really glad you said that, TENN because I think 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:26.520 Luke McCaffrey does the same thing as a receiver. Like 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.320 you look at Greg Jennings up in San Francisco, right, 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.240 He's like this big slot and what is a big 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.080 what is if everyone throws that turn around, right, you know, 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.680 pookin Akua is a big slot right, It's a guy 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.880 that can play slot receiver, run the receiver route tree. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.320 But you feel comfortable with him, like cracking a defensive end. Yes, 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:49.000 cut somebody out, like they run ISO with Pokakua on linebacker. 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.160 Because because he's tough, he's he's he's dog tough, right. 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.560 And I think when you watch Christian McCaffrey, you get 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.840 that so much like Bensonatt. You can't adapt to it. 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.320 It's like we're gonna match Nicol. It's like, great, I 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.840 got this guy McCaffrey. He's gonna play his chin shop 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:03.520 right in your chin. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.280 And I saw his helmet off like on five highlight. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.880 I'm like, this new hemmet doesn't stay on, but he's 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:09.600 making a place. 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:11.520 I love it, man. 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.119 I love an interview he interviewed yesterday with Grant and Danny, 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.240 and I was just blown away by kid. 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:19.800 And the thing about it is like. 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.560 He said, I've only been playing wide receiving two years. 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:23.720 At the theme of his group. 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.160 He like, I only have been playing wide receiver two years, but. 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.440 If they put me in a game, I could play quarterback. 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.040 Running back, wide receiver. I can play inside, I can 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.560 play outside. I can do whatever you need me to do. 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.479 And his short shuttle, I think he got the fastest 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.480 short shuttle second fast seconds in the last what ten 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:40.560 to fifteen years. 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:42.680 So the athletic profile. 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.480 Is there and with these guys, and that's the scary boy, 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:47.119 He's only gonna get better. 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.480 Also, like to your point, you're always talking about returners, like, 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.280 I think he could return kicks return because he's got 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:55.560 that really linear downhill almost a running back running style, 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.680 So I definitely think he could do that. But again, 0:18:57.760 --> 0:18:59.760 his floor is high because of what Tanna said with 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.720 the degree. His ceiling's high because of what Fred said 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:04.600 in terms of goal. He's played for two years. And 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:06.560 it's the same thing with Mike sanderstill. So to get 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.080 a guy with a really hot two guys yea incredibly 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.960 high floors and also ceilings that are just going to 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.080 keep moving up, I think it's really special. We talked 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.360 about Brandon Coleman, how I actually think after watching twenty 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.040 twenty two, So if you got time google TCU Offensive 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.439 Line versus two in twenty twenty two, you'll see what 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:23.000 I'm talking about. 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:24.800 Throwing that ball around a lot while I know he 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:25.440 was backing out. 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.720 You know, you had to put that fat flat back 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:28.800 and hands, you know somebody. 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.280 Yeah, and I love a cowboy colge dude. I mean, 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.520 I think I only one that he failed the stats. 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:35.399 Honestly, I think that's why I had him as a 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:36.719 guard if he didn't have that. 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.199 Like it's so funny how that like thirty Like you know, 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:43.080 for example, bensonat where's number thirty four, I'm like, oh, 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:44.960 he's a full back. Yeah, but like you know, he's 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.440 built like a type. And then Brandon Coleman has the 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.480 thing on the negar. It's not even a neck, it's 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:51.400 a it's a cowboy. 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:52.240 It's like the cowboy. 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:53.000 It's the board. 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.399 So imagine those high school linebackers with that board on. 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:57.960 That's what he's wearing all the time. And I'm like, oh, 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.159 this dude's a guard because that's what guards were. But 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.480 so your your drip does matter when it comes to evaluate. 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.000 But yeah, but I think he could do it. And 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.359 again he's got to handle the length and the speed 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.000 of NFL edge rushers. But there was enough there to say, 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:13.040 all right, maybe I was off in terms of the 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.600 guard and if he doesn't work out. We talked about 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:18.760 this when we did our our safe picks for the 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.639 Ticket of the Draft podcast. Offensive linemen are always safe 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:24.200 because if you think he can play left tackle and 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.800 it doesn't work out, movement to guard and you get. 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:27.840 A nice value pick there. 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.520 So I think all high floor guys, all high football 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:31.040 character guy. 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:32.119 Mcge don't forget about it. 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:33.520 Let's talk about these guys the last three. 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.280 So these guys are fun to talk about because they're 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:38.919 a little bit they're like kind of like the like 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:40.159 the roll of the dice a little bit, you know 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:40.520 what I'm saying. 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:41.960 So we got so we got. 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.920 Jordan McGee from Temple. We got Dominie Campton from you Dub. 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:49.919 We got Javonte Jean Baptiste Baptiste from Notre Dame formerly 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.880 by way of Ohio State. So, Fred, I know you've 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:54.120 watched some of these guys. 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.800 Hey, Jordan McGee, All right, let me tell you some 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:58.040 He's a lambbecker. 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.400 I always like lamberk and he wore a yeah. 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:02.800 So that's like a big deal at Temple. 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:08.640 Right, he comes downhill with bad intentions. He's I could 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.440 tell it, intellectual middle linebacker. He got that London Fletcher 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.879 and he's lining people up and he's he knows how 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.920 to manipulate a game, and it shocked me how well 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:18.439 he covered. 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:21.520 Like that's I was so glad you brought that up. 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:26.000 So glad he brought that up because he's because like that. Sorry, 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:29.960 like I cut you off. But when you're watching linebackers, 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:31.800 one of the things like Jeremiah Trotter, We're gonna talk 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:33.840 about him a little bit. You watch him from Clemson, 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:38.440 very instinctive, smart, got the pedigree, does not cover in 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:43.639 Clemson's defense. So I'm always looking because NFL linebackers, you 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:45.399 better better man recover. 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.280 When you get this guy in the fifth round. 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:52.639 Who's got the running hit ability, the coverage ability, I'm like, 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.400 this is great value, great leader, plays hard. 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.119 I think the one thing is he's a little little undersized. 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.280 Stakes and weights ex weights. 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.440 This what's gonna get him didn't be decided and he's 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:09.600 that perfect understudy behind Wagner And we just talked about it. 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:13.480 It's another team captain. He's another team captain. 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:14.520 And that's a great and he could be done it 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:16.199 on special teams early, you know what I mean. I mean, 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:17.879 you know they have that new kickoff rule and stuff 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:19.879 like that. You need guy, you need more linebackers, is 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:21.800 probably going to be able to you know, make it 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:23.680 out a little better in this style of you know, 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:26.879 kickoff team. So I just I'm just I'm just thrilled 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.199 that we went from a year ago talking my lineback 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:32.720 and position and now we just outlined back from free 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:33.879 agency to the draft. 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:35.560 Man, we just can't miss right now. 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:36.960 Yeah, but this is the type of guy that I 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.440 think is the modern linebacker. When you look at like. 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:43.320 Fred Warner, for example, he played like a pseudo safety. Yeah. 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:45.240 Put on a little bit of weight, yeah, has those 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.080 coverage instincts, can play the run. He's six ' three, 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.480 very similar to Wagner or Warner, excuse me. And he's 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:54.160 about two hundred and twenty five pounds, so another ten pounds, 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:56.120 a couple of akes in white, a couple of block 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:57.120 destruction techniques. 0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:58.560 I'm not saying they're the same. 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:01.359 He don't need this buck weeks, but I get you. 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:02.440 I think the ceilings there. 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:04.240 Yeah, dom I don't know if you guys watched Dominic 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.640 Hampton from dub Yeah, but he is a fun guy 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:09.800 to watch just because he's like and we talked about 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.800 Johnny Wilson being freaky and have crazy miserables. This guy's 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:16.320 six three two fifteen played safety, has thirty four and 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:18.760 a half inch arms, as you know, Fred, Yes, that's 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:19.600 very very long. 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:21.359 Yeah, ran a four or five. I think he had 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:22.480 a forty inch vertical. 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:26.320 So in terms of athletic traits, yeah, there, it's there. 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:29.359 I mean he's a little stiff playing safety. But I 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:32.240 look at what Dan and what Wink want to do, 0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:33.240 and they have curse. 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:35.560 I can say what they did with curse, and they 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:39.720 always find it. This site the safety lineback of hybrid. 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.080 They like to bring him on Blitz's. They like to 0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.199 match him up on tight ends. So you look at 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:46.440 these guys say, oh yeah, he's he's gonna be good 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.199 to match up with any tall tight end. 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:50.439 It separates from the core what's his name? 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.560 Like, he's one of those guys where you find a 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.160 package for him, like this is that type dude. 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.360 He reminds me a little bit of like a uh 0:23:57.560 --> 0:23:59.600 this is not a slight against cam Crow, but like 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.960 a more athletic, like a more twitched twitch. Like again, 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:04.879 I don't know if he's that instinctive Cam Croll was 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:08.920 crazy instinctive but more twitched up, like longer, bigger version, 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:11.040 like he's a freak. Yeah, and like that's why he's 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:12.840 going to the fifth And it's like one of those players. Man, 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:16.160 Like when I was doing film evaluation, you come across Dominickhampton, 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.760 You're like, that is a dan Quinn football player. 0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.160 So like the fact that he's here is really funny. Yeah. 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:25.680 Then we got Javonte Jean Baptiste, who again falls to 0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:30.560 this bucket of like crazy traitsy players, right, thirty five 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.919 inch arms, Yeah, he's six fives, he's two thirty. Like 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.200 when you when you say, let me draw up traits 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.800 for an edge rusher, Yeah, he's got all of them. 0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:42.960 He's a seventh round pick, got to develop a little bit. 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:46.199 But you say, as a guy who could like this 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:47.960 is like we were talking about talking about the Jason on 0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.320 tick of the Draft podcast, in these rounds you want 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:51.080 to take shots. 0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:52.160 This is a shot. 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:53.720 Yes, the guy with a lot of traits, a lot 0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:55.800 of athletic upside, And you say, we got him win 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:58.760 the right defensive system because of these measurables. 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:00.680 We're going to get him a chain development. 0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.680 Yeah, I love it. I love it. 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.520 And then when you just think about it, think about 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:07.920 the years of having guys on your team that been 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:09.960 free agent guys, you know, guys that still made the 0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.560 squad because they was putting the situation that you ain't 0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.159 gotta play every day. We're gonna bring you in and 0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.400 do what you do best. That's what I see with him. 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.440 That's the first thing I thought about saying, Hey, you know, 0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:21.320 he's one of them. Like I said, he's one of 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.000 those guys. You look at him, say, all right, I 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:25.720 see what they see. But guess what, We're not asking 0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:26.520 you to come in here. 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.280 And be now, light a round. We used to come 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:28.680 in here, rus. 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.200 We're gonna we're gonna have certain packages where we when 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.480 we put you in the game, let that dog eat, 0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:35.120 let them go hunt, you know what I mean, paying 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.480 them ears back. So, like you say, the trace alone 0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:38.919 is like eye popping, you know what I mean. I'm 0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:40.520 sitting there looking at this guy. Man, this dude's a 0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.080 huge guy. But with the style of football and the 0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.200 way they play here, yeah, oh, I can't wait to 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.600 see him. I'm just you know, I've been I've been 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:49.760 yearning for us to play the kind of football that 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.320 I watched these guys play on the other side, you 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.399 know what I mean. Yeah, everywhere they've been where this 0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:58.359 defense has been, they played with that kind of defense where. 0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.320 I used to be like at night, like okay, boy, 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:04.800 we're playing them today. You guys up. They better. 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.159 They better have their calls than they read because the 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.680 ball gotta come out nine. If they ain't coming out nine, 0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.040 I'm gonna have a long day. I ain't getting the 0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.159 ball a lot. So that's what I've been waiting on 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.200 to see us, do you know? So I talked about 0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.240 the year and a year. I don't see enough fills 0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:19.520 of catalty on the outside. They're not anybody face and 0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:21.840 up front. Every now and then, you know, we're gonna 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.000 get a sack of two. But if we ain't getting 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:25.240 a sack, it's a long day. 0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.760 It's a long day. That day has come. Well, I'm 0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:28.520 really gonna play. 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.920 I'm really glad you talked about on the other side 0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.760 because the other guys in the division they also drafted 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:34.160 some people. 0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:34.720 Yeah they did. 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:36.800 So what we're gonna do is graph change doesn't matter, 0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:40.600 So we're gonna give out some graft graft draft RaSE. 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:42.560 U C l A. 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:45.320 For our division. Rivals. 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.360 So we're gonna start with the New York Football Giants, 0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.400 and so let's go through through their first three picks. 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:54.400 We got Molik Neighbors, Tyler Nuban from Minnesota, and Andrew 0:26:54.760 --> 0:27:00.440 Phillips from Kentucky. So those three guys, I actually like them. 0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:03.600 A lobby I can say, at the end of the day, 0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:07.119 you can't hate. We're gonna tell the truth. Yeah right, 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:08.080 Milik Neighbors. 0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:12.159 We know finally Daniel Jones got a win because he listen, 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.560 Darren Waller, maybe he retired two years ago, didn't tell 0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:16.439 no matter he's. 0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:17.879 Having he's going through a lot of stuff. 0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:21.000 Yeah, you going through divorce now. Yeah, we're not doing 0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:22.760 good as NFL marriage. 0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:23.359 Thank you for. 0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:26.560 Holding his nap holding down, you know, my wife. 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:30.400 But Tyler Newman, you really like his. 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.359 Ball skills and he fits the defense really well. Phillips 0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.800 also fits the defense man corner aggressive, not a lot 0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.680 of ball production, but reminds me a lot of Deontay Banks. 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:40.880 And he's the corner on the other side. 0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:42.040 And I know you love THEO. 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:46.159 Just the Johnson. I see like I'm okay with THEO Johnson. 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:46.760 I think he's big. 0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:48.800 I think he's physical a little stiff in terms of 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:52.160 athletic traits, like you're betting on upside there. Tyrone Tracy 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:56.359 from Purdue one of the best pass catching backs in 0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.040 this draft. So love that fit. 0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:03.560 And then Darius I think it's from U. C. L a. 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:04.719 Y's probably say that. 0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:06.080 I don't really know a lot of a lot of 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.200 file on him, but I actually I like the players 0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:09.640 in the draft. 0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:10.560 They felt a lot of needs. 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.840 I think they got some playmakers and they got better offensively. 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:14.640 So I'm gonna give this C minus. 0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:16.479 Well, I'm gonna give it a C because it's just 0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:18.920 not enough draft picks. I didn't think they had enough. 0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:20.240 Only six picks. 0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:21.480 Yeah, only six picks. 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.959 So I'm gonna hold that against him when I know 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.119 they was a team deprived of talent. 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.399 Yeah, and obviously minus is being a little but you 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:29.960 know it's a giant, so minus. 0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:31.639 I just give him a D. 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.000 Yes, that's what I'm talking about, because. 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:37.000 I don't like him. May be beating on us too much. 0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:38.400 I hate that. 0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.080 I'm a little pity right, And every time somebody say 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.479 New York Giants, I close my eyes and all I 0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:44.640 see is Michael straight hand. 0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:48.520 Yeah. 0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:54.600 Yeah, I would never beat. I thought, I thought, I 0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.880 thought it was when I saw the Neighbors. 0:28:56.560 --> 0:29:00.520 Pick, I was like a quarterback. I was just that 0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.040 those pics want to be quarterback. But I understand it. 0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:07.719 It's crazy because I was watching the presser for All 0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.800 Neighbors and you know, you know these guys get you 0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:14.160 know Instagram, they take you to take the video and 0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.280 they go go to speaking on it, and they was like, 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.040 here's a guy that was just in California. It was 0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:20.680 a guy sounding It's like he is a guy that 0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:24.160 was just in California. He was shopping for houses and 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.240 now he and he in New York. He going to 0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:28.200 the New York Giant. Dude, this looked like a guy 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.360 that want to be in New York. And I remember 0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:31.720 the face that he was making on that. 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.360 I say, boy, he really hot right now, so you 0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.120 can say what you say. Don't get me wrong. He's 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:39.320 happy to be drafted. Man, be happy. If I told 0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.520 you you going to the job, you aready be catching 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.520 balls from Daniel job and he spoke about it. Look, 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:46.720 I'm gonna say, you gotta be careful what you say. 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:47.360 What I told you. 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.200 What happened to me that year going into my senior 0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.800 year in college, a guy we went to New York 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.640 for some you know, the Big East Breakfast fall of Faller, 0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.440 you know, our captains, And I told him I don't 0:29:59.440 --> 0:29:59.959 want to come here. 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:02.600 The next year I was there, so I feel like 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.120 I'm you know, I said, open my big mouth. Yeah. 0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.400 He had just said when they was on a podcast, 0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:10.840 they asked him, what do you think about now you going. 0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:11.760 To the job? Oh I saw this. 0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:13.760 He said they better get a quarterback because you know, 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:15.880 you know, the quarterback situation ain't right. 0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.440 So he so his first job is to apologize. 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.640 Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's legitimate. 0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.120 Like if you want to be like like real draft analysis, 0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.640 that's a legitimate criticism, like you've got all these weapons, 0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:29.960 and are you locked in at quarterback when you could 0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:31.200 have been locked in at quarterback? 0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:31.560 Yeah? 0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.320 Again, like I like these players a lot. But yeah, 0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.800 that's that's let's do the Eagles. This is gonna be 0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.040 so much fun here we go. All right, So we 0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.960 got Quinnon Mitchell from Toledo the quarterback. We got Cooper 0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:46.960 Desine from Iowa. We got Jylex Hunt from Houston Christian Oh. 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:50.240 They say he's the ultimate predator project. Yeah, we'll talk 0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.560 about him in a second. We got will Shipley from Clemson. 0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.440 Those are their first four. Let's talk about those guys 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:55.960 real quick, Fred, do you want to start? 0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:56.440 Queen? 0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.440 Queen and Mitchell. I don't know how he failed to 0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.560 the end, Yeah, what he you? I thought he was 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.640 only gone by fifteen, like the worst I've seen with fifteen. 0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.120 Yeah. Once I seen him fall out, like he go again? 0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:10.040 What was the reason though? 0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:13.120 They didn't say why. I just quarterbacks and back in 0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.600 tackles step out of there. And once they pushed him 0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:19.840 out of there, Philadelphia just sitting there. They had a 0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:20.960 chief state waiting. 0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:22.760 On before he at got there. 0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.120 But Queen apparently they tried to So what I heard 0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.080 is they tried to trade up, but no one wanted 0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:29.480 to trade. They having a wash. It like they tried 0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.560 to trade nineteen or something, and. 0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.920 Then no one's Everyone's like, no, we're good because there's 0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.160 all these good players, right, everyone's getting pushed down. You know. 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:37.680 You know, it's crazy because it was like the year 0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:38.200 of the offense. 0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.200 I mean, you know, it was really your offense heavy 0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.320 draft in the first round, and when I started seeing. 0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:44.600 Those defensive guys, it's crazy. 0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.560 How when it went from tackles, or went from quarterbacks 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.160 to tackles, and soon as that first defensive guy was. 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.960 Taking it was all that. It was all dens, you 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:54.800 know what I mean. So it was just weird. 0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.000 But one of the guys that stood out to me 0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:00.400 when you know with them, is is Cooper Dijohn, you 0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.400 know what I mean. Like this just we was talking, 0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.600 I'm like, they asked me what I want him. I'm like, 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:06.520 I don't know, do he fit what we do? But 0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:07.960 hell of a football player. 0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.760 But do you see him playing a safety or your safet? Yeah, 0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:14.240 a safety, he'll be a safety and a nickel he 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:15.480 would be the honey badger. 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:16.520 Yeah he would do. 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:18.920 He'll have a and he returned kicks. 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.840 And I just think when you put two guys, that's 0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.720 a young core to put with those young defensive tack 0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.000 becles they taken in the last couple of years. You 0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.440 got your sticky long coner, you got your safety slash 0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.880 nickel that can aggest, that can blitz, that can cover 0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.680 tight end, that can cover slots. That's coop of the 0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:37.960 gene to me is one of those fixtures. I think 0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.720 he'll be a ten year Philadelphia Eagle because I just 0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.560 think he's that type of player. He's got London say, 0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.760 don't there ever put him at Coner. Yeah, that's how 0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.000 London fields. And I can see that a little bit. 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.360 So let's talk about that real quick, because that's the 0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.120 player that got in the trade with Washington. With you, 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:58.120 and so Washington traded back. They received fifty to fifty three, yeah, 0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.960 and one sixteen or once sixty one, excuse me, and 0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.400 then Philly received forty which was this pick seventy eight 0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.480 and one fifty two. So one thing I wanted to 0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.240 call attention to here is we got Mike sander Still 0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:12.800 out of this trade and Ben Sner not. Yeah, I 0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:15.760 now this is this is I don't want to be 0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:17.920 hot taking here, and I kind of put I kind 0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.440 of put Sander Still and Cooper Degene as a slot 0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.200 players in a very similar tier. I give a slight 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.840 edge to Cooper Degen, but in terms of getting a 0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:31.000 football player in the slot safety kind of ballpark, sander 0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:34.520 Still is excellent. So to trade back, get a guy, 0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:38.000 get two guys a very good value. I think that trade, 0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.920 even though they get Cooper Degene, yeah, kind of favors Washington. 0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.239 No, I do, because I almost had to put uh 0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:46.040 the tackle in there too. 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:47.160 Oh that's right. Yeah. 0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:48.640 Like at the end of the day, we end up 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.320 with three second round picks, and all those second round 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.520 picks will be guys that'll be added to this team. 0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.000 These guys are going to play a lot of rip. 0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.960 So if I'm taking three compared to one, I think 0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.080 I'm winning to go back and get there. 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.440 I'm fine. Then most people were like, I could Washington 0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.880 trade with Philip deevs. We ain't here for bes. We 0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.480 don't do feelings no more like we was doing that 0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.600 years ago. You know, we can't cherry with him. Yes 0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.600 I can. You got that pick. I won't it here. 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.759 You take it, especially if I'm getting more foot so 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:17.560 it doesn't matter. 0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:17.920 Yeah. 0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.480 The next one is Jelex Hunt from Houston Christian Really 0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.319 he played safety at like Yale or Cornell or something 0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.359 like that, then transferred played stand up edge. 0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:26.839 I mean he looks the part. 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:30.879 He's thirty four in charms, fast moves well, developmental guy. 0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.120 You know, they're not looking for him to play next year, 0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:34.600 but they don't have to because they're Philly. They have 0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:35.640 like thousand defensive You. 0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:37.319 Notice how most of these guys in the draft, has 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.200 played elsewhere, like have been on that's something three four 0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:42.560 years and played the last year of this other team 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:43.560 and got drafted. 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:44.960 That's what they do now. 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.440 They took and run and then Will Shipley from l 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.200 Clemson the next guy, who I as a pass catching 0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.799 back I really enjoyed watching. Reminds me a lot. They're 0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:55.239 not the same player. They're not the same player. They're 0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:56.920 not the same player. Remind me a little bit of 0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.120 Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, okay, not the same player. 0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:00.839 I was you gonna say, that's why. 0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:03.759 But there were some similarities in terms of being able 0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.040 to line up in the slot, run a choice, find 0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:07.399 mismatches in the past game. 0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:09.839 So I really liked those first four picks. And they 0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:11.160 got let's go next four. 0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.200 We got a Nia Smith from Texas A and m 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:19.359 Yes Trotter from Clemson, Trevor Keagan from Michigan. We got 0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:24.560 Johnny Wilson from Florida State and Dylan McMahon. 0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:25.880 McMahon McMahon, I know. 0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:27.960 He plays center. I don't know what I know what 0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:29.759 school is from, So leave a comment if you know 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:33.200 what schools from. Undersized center, though, what do you think fred. 0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.759 Nia Y Smith is a do it all type of guy. 0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.799 Yeah, he will be working a slot. Uh you could. 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.319 You can motion into backfield if you wanted to. He's 0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:42.080 a return guy. 0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.960 I didn't foresee him going this early, but he was 0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:47.200 a guy that you know, I kicked my eye on. 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.759 I was like, somebody with a plane gonna get this guy, 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.960 and he can be He can be special almost not 0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:56.520 because this one play running big one play while received. 0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.440 But you remember last year when Miami drafted a train 0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:02.239 h and people like I wonder how to gonna use him? 0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.640 I think has a plan to do with Smith the 0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.800 same way and Jeremi, I try to he's to We keep. 0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:10.080 Talking about pedigree. 0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:14.120 I agree in parents, Philadelphiel drafting his dadd and now 0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.600 they drafted him. And I think they drafted him because 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.239 they know he can be a project, that we can 0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:20.520 work on him and hunt. 0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:24.160 But do you think he felt fail I thought he 0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:25.359 was supposed to be drafting early. 0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:25.960 I don't think so. 0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:27.200 I think one of the things that hurt him in 0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:30.680 the pre draft he didn't test, and so when you 0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:32.800 watch my film, you're like, I don't know how athletic 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.560 you are. He didn't run, and he didn't do anything 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:39.600 else and so instinctive football players, smart football player. But 0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.080 with that linebacker spot, you need We talked about it 0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.880 with McGee. You need some coverage, trades of ability. So 0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:45.920 I think that's what hurt him. 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.200 I just hate to see guys that I like playing 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:52.080 for the guys in our Johnny Wilson, we got to that. 0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.480 We fought, let's talk about Johnny will because think a 0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:56.879 lot of fans probably feel the same way. 0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:58.759 So you know, just to guy Jason and I. 0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.440 We went to the Senior boy went to the combine, 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:06.040 and so Johnny Wilson obviously very physically impressive. I mean 0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.640 he's he's literally I've never I've never I can honestly 0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.040 say this, never seen a receiver looks like him. The 0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:13.520 problem with Johnny Wilson that he didn't I don't think 0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:16.600 you fit with the Commander's draft vision because you watch 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:17.840 him at the Senior Bowl. He did it, did his 0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.160 one on ones, then left practice. He had an injury, 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.000 but he left practice, went to the combine, crushed every 0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.640 route about halfway through, hamstring tightened up. 0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:26.240 Left. 0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:29.040 Talk to people at Florida State, how much does he 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:32.520 love football? And look at the guys we've got they 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:37.120 die for football. So in terms of traits, athleticism, upside, 0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.960 you like this pick for Philly, But he's not He's 0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:41.520 not a commander with the sea on it, you know 0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:41.960 what I'm saying. 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:44.239 And I think that's what differentiates him. 0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.400 Again, like the we the commanders in my opinion, Now 0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:49.640 you'd have to talk to Adam or you know, Dan 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.600 about this. We were not this year in a position 0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.759 to accommodate that. We got to establish our culture and 0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.600 like maybe if we've got a couple veteran like veterans 0:37:58.640 --> 0:37:59.960 in the locker room that can bring the young guy 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:01.640 along and say this is how we do things as 0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:03.440 a commander, you feel more comfortable. 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:05.120 But I don't think they felt that the team was 0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:05.520 there yet. 0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:07.080 It makes it makes sense. I could deal with that. 0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:10.680 Yeah, And so Trevor Keagan's offensive lineman, Del McMahon offensive lineman. 0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:12.880 I like a lot of these players. I like the 0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.600 upside of Jeremiah Tater, Junior Ania Smith. You talked about 0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.080 love the like that Johnny Wilson could be a home 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.760 run swing for them late love the first four picks. 0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:24.239 I'm gonna give him D minus. It's nice. 0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.000 I'm gonna give them a see you in Philly. 0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.520 See what you got, Tanda. 0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:33.440 I'm filling one of them teams. I don't hate him 0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:35.000 as much as I hate to two guys. 0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:37.360 Minus. 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.960 All right, Yeah that seems fair, like all those players 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:41.640 given me se minus love it all right? 0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:43.600 Now, let's do the Cowboys. I don't even need to 0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:44.400 see this, I know. 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:44.680 I know. 0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:45.440 My grades would be. 0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.920 Tyler Gland from Tyler Guyden from Oklahoma, Marshawn Neeland from 0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:57.080 Western Michigan, Cooper Bebbe from Kansas State. Yeah, Maurice lufol 0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:01.719 from Notre Dame, Caitlin Carson from Wake Forrest, Ryan Florinoy 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:06.440 from Southern Missouri, No Eastern Missouri, Western Missouri, Directional Missouri 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.880 is where he's from. Nathan Thomas is a raging Cajun, 0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:13.160 and I don't know who Justin Rodgers is. So you 0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:15.239 google that if you're a Dallas Cowboy fan. 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.359 Yeah. So let's talk about the first four. 0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.160 You know how Field about Tyler Guiden. Yeah, you know 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:22.560 how both of us feeled about marsha and so Tyler. 0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:25.759 Guiden project a little bit. And that's where again, like, 0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:27.759 is the value to trade him in the first round 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.040 for athletic traits worth it something to think about. He 0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.520 wouldn't be ready probably this year, and knowing he's going 0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:33.920 in Dallas, he probably will because the. 0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:36.960 Yeah, so you'll probably have to play. 0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:42.080 But like the athletic traits are out there, insane, like insane, 0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:45.680 built in the lab type stuff. Marshawn Neeland. Love the player, 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:47.239 love the effort. I think a guy that could have 0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.759 easily been here in Washington. Power rushers sometimes have a 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:52.960 hard time at the next level because the power that 0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:54.520 they played within colleges and translate. 0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:55.719 But love that guy. 0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:59.520 Cooper Bibay one of the best, most physical run blocking guards, 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.200 steal old man. Worry about his past protection ability, Yep, 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.160 you know what I'm saying in terms of he's got 0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:07.839 thirty inch thirty one in charms, so sometimes those longer 0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:09.919 guys get after you a little bit and Reese through foul. 0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:14.239 Probably one of the most physical downhill linebackers in the class, 0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.120 so I was very high on him. Uh. And then 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:20.720 Kellen Carson, physical corner, Ryan Florinoy excellent kind of special 0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.600 teams wide receiver with athletic traits UH. 0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:24.680 And then Nathan Rogers. 0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:26.560 Nathan Thomas is a guy that I think he was 0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:29.960 like six six three forty probably moves to guard, but 0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:31.440 another depth piece there for them. 0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:33.880 And so the guy Justin Rodgers because you don't know 0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.440 who the game do you know who he is? You 0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:38.640 know what I told you, I don't like regular named football. 0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:40.480 You know how I feel about it. 0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:44.640 So everywhere, what are thoughts about the captain? 0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:48.480 I care nothing about those guys. Let's go hand skip, 0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:49.880 let's go a hand move forward. Yeah, I have to 0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:50.160 say you. 0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.200 At the end of the day, they added some guys 0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.080 to a team that already kind of fall apart of 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:59.120 little bit you know what, they are mentally following up 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:01.719 like they on the point so bad that Jerry. 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:03.200 Just blabborating that name. 0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:09.439 Yeah, okay, So during the draft, everyone knew they wanted 0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:12.239 a running back. No, they wrote it one running but 0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:13.719 I mean they knew they were going to target a 0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:14.239 running back. 0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:15.880 And so which one is it going to be? Is 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:19.040 it going to be? You know, I don't know, Trey Benson, 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:23.319 Jonathan Brooks? Who knows? And then Jerry after day one goes, 0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:27.960 we are high high high, he's high high on our boards. 0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:29.480 What's his name? 0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:35.239 Jonathan Brooks? We want to draft Jonathan Brooks? Interview in 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.320 my thirty years. I thought it was the best interview 0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:40.120 that I'd ever had with a player. He's outstanding and 0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.279 he's a great football player, so obviously interest is high, right, 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:45.960 And then what does the Carolina Panthers do? They say no, 0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:51.719 and then Carolina traded up ahead of. 0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:57.520 The Cowboy h bigs before the Cowboys like Jo No, 0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:00.520 I have to look back like two pigs before. Just 0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.720 to really give it to him, it's socking. Listen. 0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.800 It was so bad that they got on the phone 0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:10.640 and signed Zeke the next twenty four hours, a twenty 0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.200 nine year old z in a crop top. 0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.319 They didn't signed him right after They couldn't get your job. 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.040 So I mean because of that, I'd probably give it 0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:19.440 like an alf funny think. 0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.759 Yeah I didn't give me, don't care about but hey, 0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:26.759 i'd say this though them getting ze back. 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.320 I'm happy for him, man, you know that a marriage 0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.080 maiden head. I feel like he should have never left it. 0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.120 And you know, I feel like he was a workhorse, 0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.719 fun man that they should have kept around. But just 0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.160 to see that and went on that transpired. Man, that 0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:40.560 just goes to show you, man, now you really you 0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:44.160 really don't understand until you understand Jerry Jones day do 0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:45.880 a whole lot for them, But that ain't what we 0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.720 need you to be doing. Jered that day, Let you boys, 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.040 let your son whoever else have that job, do that 0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:52.560 because you were out displating the beans. 0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:52.759 Man. 0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.040 Hey, like they said church, won't he do it? 0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.000 Every year? He does that every year? 0:42:58.120 --> 0:42:58.640 He doesn't? 0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:03.640 Yeah the uh the so they also last year didn't 0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:05.719 he pulled up he held up the actual big board. 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:07.759 Yeah, every picky won it. 0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.120 Yeah, that's like a wacky that's a wacky bitch. 0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:13.080 It's dirty because he does it every year. I don't 0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:15.200 think you know he's doing it, or do you think he's. 0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.320 Doing it, like because we're talking about it, I don't know. 0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:18.279 I don't know. 0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:24.160 He's Jerry. He hasn't lived by rules in fifty years. Like, 0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.440 what are you who's going to stop him? Lit Jerry 0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:28.040 stop him? 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:29.920 Yeah? Yeah, nobody. He's He's like. 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:34.040 He's unstoppable for us. I'm sorry, Like Tannis say, as 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:36.759 good as as much ed up as he brings to 0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.160 I don't even call him America's team. I caught him 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:39.959 Austin's team. 0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:42.480 As much as he brings to the team, he takes 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.360 ton of that away ton over the. 0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:45.600 Way, Yeah for sure. 0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:47.839 All right, So we gave everybody else a grade, and yeah, 0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:49.360 I think we need to finish off by giving the 0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:50.440 commanders a grade. 0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:53.920 It's so hard to grade before we see these guys down. Yeah, 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:58.759 it's just it's unfair sometime. But for the selections and 0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:02.160 and I'm really feel great the maneuvering. I was so 0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:05.320 impressed with the I'm gonna trade back and get this secondess, 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:08.719 this third second round pick, so the mind frame, and 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.759 I'm gonna give them an A for staying disciplined to 0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:14.839 your board. Most teams don't do it. Most teams see 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:17.560 that that can't out there. Danglyn, I'm gonna have to 0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:18.560 get that coop of the gene. 0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:20.879 No, Sandy Scriell as well. 0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:26.120 We want so then stay put. So I am gonna 0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:30.720 give them the props for staying there. Yeah, and getting 0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.520 guys like being knocked the snot at you. 0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:36.800 I'm gonna I'm gonna give you an A for that. 0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.000 I'm giving them b You know all I said before, 0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:43.399 I was I was impressed. I love it the month, 0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:44.759 you know, like they still got to go out there 0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:46.920 and play the game and say I go out there 0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:47.960 and develop these guys. 0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:49.680 You don't know who's gonna make the squad who's not. 0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.080 I don't want to get too technical with it, but 0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.280 when it comes to just seeing how things was done differently, 0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:58.920 that BEE stands for just man, I'm happy to see 0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:01.719 if it really was a change, I really saw them. 0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:04.640 You know, it didn't look like the I guess you 0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.239 could say the Commanders or Washington teams of Oh oh yeah, 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.279 you know from the years I've been around here, right, 0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:10.920 you're just reaching just to reach, you know what I mean, 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:11.839 throwing money at. 0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:13.000 The football team. 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:16.000 I think that's actually that's excellent, Enow, that's exactly I 0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.000 feel exactly the same way I think, though, I give 0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:21.160 it a B plus because they've got a quarterback of 0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:23.200 the future. We even't talked about that a lot, but 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:24.640 I think like that's. 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:25.200 A huge part. 0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:28.560 You got a new owner, new head coach, new GM 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:30.920 and now a new quarterback and a guy that is 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:33.160 tremendously talented. We got to sit down and talk with him, 0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:36.840 and just his maturity in the interview that he showed 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.600 like his maturity on draft night. And again I'm not 0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:41.520 saying he's going to be the savor of the organization. 0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:42.800 I don't want to put that pressure on him. But 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:43.759 it's nice guy. 0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:48.320 I like they're not saying he's to say to get together. 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:50.800 How many time have we seen us jack with quarterback 0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:53.960 and say here r G three, go save us. No, 0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:55.320 they said, hey, dude. 0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.399 You pull it over a puzzle. Come on in here 0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:59.520 and hopefully you can get to the point where you're 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:00.320 taking us to champion. 0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:02.759 And again the fact that he's so talented and the 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:06.879 upside's there. And then to Fred's point, that mindset around him, Yes, 0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:08.759 I think is incredibly important. So I'm excited for that 0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:10.400 something to give him a B plus. And again for 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.080 the process for the quarterback, and I think just again 0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:14.759 for sticking to your board. I think all those points 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:16.399 are one hundred percent true and that's why we feel 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:18.480 so excited about it. I think that's going to do 0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:20.680 it for today's show. 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