1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: On today's episode of the Command Center Podcast, we review 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: every single draft pick and talk about how we feel 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: with a p and Dan Quinn working together and seeing 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: the results, sticking to their board and it was great stuff. 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: And then we give draft grades to everybody in our division. 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: El Cowboys, El Philly, El Giants, if one are the 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: actual grades. Stay tuned to find out. It all starts 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: right out. 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast, Eye Logan Paulson here 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss and we got a 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: great show today. We're gonna tea. We're gonna review all 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: the draft picks, every single of them. We're gonna review 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: drafts within the division, give them grades. 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: You know, Cowboys probably gonna get a D. I haven't 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: even seen their draft yet, be d probably the first 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: things first, let's talk about what I got on man? 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: You got me on your chase good, I know, right 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 3: over your heart. 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: Kind of a bummer. I kind of wish I could 20 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: just do like one of those guys. 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: Well, we got merch down, we got merch and we 22 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: got this shirt and we got that hawk out side 23 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: hawk outs that and these are exclusive shirts. You can 24 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: only get them at live events. Yes, so if you 25 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: want a shirt, there's no place to order him. You 26 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: got to come to our live event Jason that we're 27 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: gonna be doing, and then any other thing that Fred's 28 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: at because apparently the producer gave or our boss gave 29 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: you like a bunch of shirts. 30 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, post damn. So you can see me around 31 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: in the DMV. 32 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 4: Just asked me for a shirt, I'll pull one out 33 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 4: of my back pocket. 34 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: Perfect only three huh. 35 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: But in addition to the shirts, we also have a 36 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: great lineup of content. Yeah, your show Get Loud, which 37 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: I was on YouTube. It's you and Michael Jenkins, and 38 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: you had Tom Lougan Bill. 39 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I said, all right, right Lougan Bill. 40 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: He's a reporter from ESPN National Recruiting director and he 41 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: is so good. He has followed Jaden, like I guess 42 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: since he was like since in high school all the 43 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: way through, so he probably had great insight. 44 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: He had great insight on where he's came from. 45 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: And it hit me out a lot to know what 46 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: he's got started and what he's got made into and 47 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: like he said, him getting better year in the year out. 48 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: Difference in him. 49 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: You know, I don't like to listen to you anytime 50 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm not at work, so I might actually have to 51 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: listen to that. 52 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: Please do, please do? 53 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: All right, Then we got the Ticket to the Draft podcast, 54 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: which is on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and that's that. 55 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: We've done an instant reaction the first and second round, 56 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: second and third round picks. Right, are we gonna do 57 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: another one, Jason? Or are we done? We're done? That's it. 58 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: Make sure you check those out. And then we got 59 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: an exclusive interview with Dayton, with Jayden and Daniels. That's 60 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: on YouTube. And is that just on the regular YouTube channel? 61 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: Yep. 62 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: And we got command Center, which is our flagship program, 63 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: and we do a complete breakdown of the draft. It's 64 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: our flagship show. It's like Sports Center, but just for 65 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: the Commanders only US, Yeah, only US. And then we 66 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: got Free Agent Fridays, which is another show, great show, 67 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: and this week it's Bobby Wagner answering fan questions. So 68 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: that sounds like a great line up of content. If 69 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: you're a Commanders fan and you're not watching this, I 70 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing. 71 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: Just googage on it. 72 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: Just come on over there. 73 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, now, let's talk about it the draft. 74 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: Yes, what happened. 75 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: It was so good and it was the first time 76 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: we got to see Dan and HadAM working together. Yeah 77 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: and so yeah, I wanted to get your thoughts on that. 78 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: Let's start with Freddie always start. We can start right now. 79 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: Do I storry? 80 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: You know what I got from this draft? 81 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 4: They showed me what the identity of the team is 82 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 4: gonna be in the future. I looked at most of 83 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: these draft picks, and I think besides Johnny knew that 84 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 4: none of these guys was like five star athletes coming out. 85 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: These guys built themselves in college. 86 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: They got better year in and year out, and then 87 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: some guys just stick out like should not being sat. 88 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: This guy is a tight end full back hybrid reminds 89 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: me of hughes Check a lot like he's a guy, 90 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: he's a tone setter like and he was the only 91 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: one of him in this draft. All the other tight 92 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: ends were just preord tight ends. He was the only 93 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: guy up this ILK in his draft and Mike Sanders 94 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,279 Speaker 4: skrill I've been smiling in my sleep. 95 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: Ever since we drafted this guy. 96 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 4: And like I told Tannel, we were talking about it. X. 97 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: I love Coners that played wide out. We have a 98 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: whole different view of the game. And then you throw 99 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: a guy like Luke McCaffrey and they play quarterback, running back. 100 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: Wide receiver. 101 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: I think what they did in this draft gonna gonna 102 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 4: have good effects on. 103 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: This team for the next four or five years. 104 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk more about the specific guys in a minute, 105 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: but like you know, it's it's the first time we 106 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: get to see Dan and hout of working together, you 107 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 108 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: I mean, it was great watching. 109 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 5: I mean especially you know, we was live right there, 110 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 5: right there in the trenches in Detroit, and it was 111 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 5: funny because you know, we were screaming men be miskept, 112 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 5: you know, talking to you you know, to each other 113 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 5: about just the needs of having that office to tackle, 114 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And one day we was 115 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 5: gonna pull the trigger, and we was all hoping that 116 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 5: we kind of you know, that first night we stayed 117 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 5: there because even though we picked, we had our pick 118 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 5: at two. 119 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: Ye we stayed the whole entire draft just. 120 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 5: Hoping that maybe they're you know, back in you know, 121 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 5: get back in the first round. 122 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: And when it wasn't done. 123 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 5: You know, I was a bitter taste, but at the 124 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 5: same time, like, these guys know what they're doing. They 125 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 5: not reaching, just they gotta And I think we get 126 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 5: so used to just being on these being in a 127 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 5: part of this organization and seeing us reach, seeing us 128 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 5: go out there and get. 129 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: That big name and spend that big money on them. 130 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 5: Just because everybody said that that's what we're supposed to get. 131 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 5: So when you really look at the draft as a whole, man, 132 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 5: these guys really strategically set there man, and and pick 133 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 5: the guy that fits the mode of player that they 134 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 5: looking for, cadibor player that they're looking for. And when 135 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 5: I watched that, those guys highlights and I'm like, wow, 136 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 5: that's football. That's what they want here. That's what they want. 137 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 5: Guys to be physical, they want guys to fly around. 138 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 5: And you said it jokingly, saying it, Hey, it's gonna 139 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 5: be tough making this squad because they got ball players here. 140 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 5: So you know, it was great, man, just to sit 141 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 5: back and hear the nations and you know, the people 142 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 5: outside of here talk about how how impressed they was 143 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 5: of some of the guys that we picked up, and 144 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 5: just how things are being you know, orchestrated around here. 145 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also thought it was like cool, like 146 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: from a like just logistical standpoint. You know, obviously the 147 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: product picks that they made were great and their process 148 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: was great, you know, like trying to get into the 149 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: first round, they don't do it. They're not going to 150 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: overspend all that kind of stuff that trade with Philly. 151 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that more detail a second. But you know, 152 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: in the post day draft stuff, it's Adam doing the 153 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: presser right because it's Adam's show, you know what I'm saying. 154 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: But it never feels like Adam is like hellon yeah, right, 155 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: Like when Dan comes and talks to us, like we 156 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: did an interview with him. You can check that out 157 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: on the Commander's YouTube page. Also, he's very like of 158 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: the same messaging. You can tell they're on the same page. 159 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: Even though Adam is like buying the groceries, like you 160 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: like to say, Fred, it's fitting with Dan's vision. And 161 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: I look at this list and I see a lot 162 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: of guys that I would identify, you know, like when 163 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: you play for a coach, you're like. 164 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: That is a Dan guy, you know what I'm saying. 165 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: I go look at Dominique Hampton in the fifth round, 166 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: and like there could not be more of a Dan pick. 167 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: So obviously Adam is able to say this is where 168 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: the talent is. Like you're saying, Tanna, we're not going 169 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: to reach on stuff. But I'm also understanding what the 170 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: coach wants in terms of the players that I'm selecting, 171 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: and I think there's something really cool about that in 172 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: the first draft, you know what I'm saying, like as 173 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: a foundational piece. The other thing I just wanted to 174 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: call attention to, and You've talked about this a little 175 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: bit already, Fred is like, I think they're good football players, 176 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: all these guys, but I think they have higher football character. 177 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: And what I mean about that is like when you 178 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: watch every single every one of these guys, there's no 179 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: exception on film. They are pouring it out. There are 180 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: a lot of captains on this list. And I just 181 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: think like, in terms of laying a foundation, obviously Adam, 182 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: obviously Dan had a vision basically saying we want we 183 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: don't want to be taking risks on crazy talented people. 184 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: We want football players that are passionate and love football 185 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: and high football IQ. Yeah, you know, and I'm with that, 186 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: and so I think like that to me was something 187 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: that I took out of This was basically saying like 188 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: they there might have been more talented players available, but 189 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: not more talented players that fit the vision, right, which. 190 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: Is what you need. Competitive tough sons of guns. 191 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: And in terms of a foundational piece, I look at 192 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: all these guys and they might never become like stars, 193 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: some of them, but they're all going to be good 194 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: pro and you. 195 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: Know that already. 196 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: That's the thing about it. 197 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 4: You know, you know where the floor is with these guys, 198 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 4: and I think they weren't really worried about the ceiling. 199 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 4: I think they said, we're not going underneath this floor 200 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: type of player. And I think that's where this stuff 201 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 4: come in because everybody like tackle, tackle, tackle. 202 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: Then when I go. 203 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: Back and study Brandon Coleman, Yeah, fifteen hundred snaps, three sacks, 204 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: three sacks, Yeah, three sacks, fifty five pressures, that's a 205 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 4: lot of football. And then his reach, they people understand 206 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 4: he got the reach of a seven foot. 207 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: Of thirty five in Yes, So that is crazy. 208 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying he ain't, no, he Trent William 209 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 4: or nothing like this, but if you look at the 210 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 4: athletics score, oh, it's right there. 211 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: And that's saying a lot because we know how I 212 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: let it trendy is and I. 213 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: Think, you know, we're talking about Brennan Coleman, real quick, 214 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: tanna before we get going. 215 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: Is. 216 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: One of the things about him that I love is that, 217 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, he played a little bit more guard in 218 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, but in twenty twenty two he almost 219 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: played exclusively tackle. Yeah, I feel like they kind of 220 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: had him on the radar as a tackle. And then 221 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: when you look at the pre draft process, like everyone, 222 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: every single outlet, every the Senior Bowl, he had him 223 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: a guard and so but I think it just shows 224 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: the comprehensive nature which with they went through this process. 225 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: They said, here's the guy that played left tackle for TCU, 226 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: won the national championship, right, and they throw a lot 227 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: and he was the guy and he's so he's on 228 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: our radar. And then we look at his athletic profile, 229 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: his physical profile. Yeah, thirty five inch arms around a 230 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: four nine forty, had a thirty four inch vertical. He 231 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,359 Speaker 1: did great in the three cone of the pro agility 232 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: and you say, those are not garden measurables, those are 233 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: the tackles and you go watch the film and again, 234 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I just love that they went this level of detail, 235 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: and you watch him set the pass rush it is 236 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: locked in. Yeah, like he's not he's not opening the gate. 237 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: He understands his angle, he's not over setting, and he's 238 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: got this thick, very powerful lower half. Yeah, he does, 239 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: and he can sit that stuff down. So you know, 240 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: like there's guys like DJ Humphries in Arizona that guard 241 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: like that prototypical tackle build but are very successful because 242 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: they got good feet, they got goold length, and they 243 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: understand the angle. And he does all three of those things. 244 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: Now just about can he do that at the next level? 245 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 246 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: And can't he do it over and over and over again? 247 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: No. 248 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 5: I was impressed, man. And you know one of the 249 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 5: things about us, we're not trying to jump the gun. No, 250 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 5: we want to We want to really want to paint 251 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 5: the picture of you know, these guys went out there 252 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 5: and really got some good football players. 253 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: And it showed up. You know. 254 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 5: One of the things too, that be mis talked a 255 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 5: lot about, you know, hearing people talking about y'all watch 256 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 5: FAMI or highlights most of the stuff that we've seen 257 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 5: leading up to the Dravions highlights, But when you really 258 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 5: go dive deep and watch these guys play football. It 259 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 5: speaks about what we've already heard from these guys sitting 260 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 5: in these seats talking about the guys they want on 261 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 5: this team. And that's and that's what it makes you 262 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 5: smile when you really watch it and say, hmm, okay, 263 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 5: I see what they trying. 264 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: I see the mold they're trying to build here. 265 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: And like I said, I think at least for these 266 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: guys are team captains. 267 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 268 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: Uh, I know, Sanders scrill team captain on the National 269 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 4: Championship defense. So at the end of the day, they 270 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 4: bring it in guys that not only do they do 271 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 4: they part on the footb field, but they do they 272 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 4: put out the field leaders leaders man. 273 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: So let's just talk about the first three picks real quick, 274 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: because I think that's really interesting. Obviously Jay and Daniels 275 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: and we got Johnny Newton. 276 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: JA. 277 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know why I try to say, 278 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: let's stay with Johnny Johnny Newton and then uh, Mike Sanders. 279 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: Still, let's talk about those three guys real quick. I'll 280 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 2: start it off. So, first off, you. 281 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: Know, we've talked about Jayden and like nauseum right, was 282 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: definitely Johnny Newton. I had a first round grade on 283 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: and my and my board doesn't mean anything. 284 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: Everybody had a first round great, let's be serious. 285 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: And so the fact he's there and then they went 286 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: best player available to you talked about this like not 287 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: just say hey man, trust trust the process. We need 288 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: to get more talented on the football team. So let's 289 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: get a talented football player. And then Mike Sanders still 290 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: who's maybe pound for pound, the best player. 291 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: In the draft, like Nick Sagan said it, and like the. 292 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: Idea that you know, we already have a Buffalo Nickel 293 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: or a Nickel type player, and Kwan like, let's just 294 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: get more talented. Yeah, I think I think these first 295 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: three picks show that. 296 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: No, it was great. 297 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 5: And then just speaking of Johnny Newton, you know, talking 298 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 5: about a key that everybody. I mean, he had the 299 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 5: first round greatest junior year. You know, he had a 300 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 5: first round grade that year, and then last year he 301 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 5: went out there dominated again. But folks are speculating saying, hey, 302 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 5: maybe because of the injury to his foot made him drop. 303 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: Who knows, who cares? 304 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 5: I mean, for him to be sitting there and we 305 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 5: went out there and attacked him. I was just surprised, 306 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 5: when you know, Jason said his name. I'm sitting there like, 307 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 5: hold on, Illinoise, he's still around. Jason said his name 308 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 5: twice to me, and it then't dawn on me that 309 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 5: who he. 310 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: Was talking to dominating. So I'm like, how's he still around? 311 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: The second round? 312 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: You know, I had no clue, and when we grabbed him, 313 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 5: I'm like, that is incredible because just knowing what we 314 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 5: already have, knowing how we do things, knowing now let's 315 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 5: take another look at it, knowing who we have now 316 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 5: is the decordinator, how they do things with their guys. 317 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 5: Maybe we don't have to worry about him playing as 318 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 5: much as he played in college. 319 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: He can be a. 320 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 5: Guy that just brought in the game just to go 321 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 5: after the quarterback because he did that so well in college. 322 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 5: So it was just some of those things that stood 323 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 5: out to me. And then not to just you know, 324 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 5: spend that much time on him. You know what his 325 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 5: name is, Mike Sender. Still, you know, I hate missing 326 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 5: up names and I'll do it a lot still, just hey, 327 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 5: when you watch Michigan and you saw that secondary that 328 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 5: that zero always stood always, it always stood out. And 329 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 5: then just to hear a kid that say, hey, I 330 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 5: only been playing dB for two years, so the. 331 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 3: Sky's the limit for me and the Skouy's the limit 332 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: for me. 333 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 5: And just knowing a little bit about that, having the 334 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 5: background of being the dB first player receiver, knowing how 335 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 5: that kind of correlated, knowing how as a receiver, I 336 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 5: used to know what DB's thinking because I've been to dB. 337 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 5: It just it pays dividends to see why is paying 338 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 5: dividends for him to. 339 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: Be back in the position. 340 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 5: So, like I said before, man, like those two guys 341 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 5: we can talk about you know, Jaydon Da Daniels all day. 342 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 5: Those two guys, Man, it was like, damn, we got 343 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 5: the best of the best at the best time. So 344 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 5: you know, that's what makes you just sit there and 345 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 5: have you know, so much confidence in knowing who's at 346 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 5: the him, you know, going out there, like you say, 347 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 5: buying our groceries. 348 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 349 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: And the thing about it is people forget that he 350 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 4: returns punch too, so he does. He can add to 351 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 4: your special team. He has to defense. And people like, 352 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: how you gonna take a nickelback. No, he's a football player. 353 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: He just happened to excel in the inside. So but listen, 354 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: he's one of those guys. I wouldn't have passed up. 355 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: I would have had to grab him at that point. 356 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 4: And when I saw us grab Johnny Nude, I said, 357 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 4: then I say every pick from now on his best 358 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 4: player available. Like I was like, they're not really finna 359 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 4: go chasing me. They finish, go best play available, Like 360 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: tanna say, I'm finna add talent to my team. 361 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: Keep piling the stock file in it and when we 362 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: ready to explode, we'll be ready. 363 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 5: We were sitting there and I ain't want to I 364 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 5: ain't gonna I want to say this before you started. 365 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 5: We were sitting there talking about what you think next, 366 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 5: and you know, we rolling the dice. We don't, we 367 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 5: have no clue, and it probably wasn't in the order, 368 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 5: but it was landing, you know what I mean. Was like, well, 369 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 5: we can get a receiver now, and it probably wasn't 370 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 5: that pick, but with the next pick, we gotta receive, 371 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So it was just it 372 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 5: was just kind of funny to us just knowing that, hey, 373 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 5: these are the value, these are the ass that you 374 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 5: can add value to our team. That we went out 375 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 5: because I wanted the bigger receiver I wanted, and you know, Hey, 376 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 5: you know, he's six tow he's not probably as big 377 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 5: as some of the guys that was a receivement. 378 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: He's a big receiver on the team already. So it's 379 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: just great. 380 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 5: And came from a good football pedigree, you see what 381 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like his his his his legacy when it 382 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 5: comes from dad to brothers, you know, it's all in 383 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 5: his blood. So it's just great to see how they 384 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 5: was picking our little you know what I mean, going 385 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 5: out there and say, hey, this is this guy here, 386 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 5: his background along speaks for himself, but this is the 387 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 5: kind of player we won't want dogs. He kept saying dogs, 388 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 5: and you can kind of put that by every guy's name, 389 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 5: that these guys have that in him. 390 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to the next group. So it's Ben Snatt, 391 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Randon Coleman, and Luke mccaffee, right, a nickname. Those are 392 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: kind of the offensive weapons. I guess you can say 393 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: that if we're calling that offensive tackle up in there too. 394 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: But you've fred you already talked about Ben Snatt in 395 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: terms of his versatility, his toughness, his ability to run routes, 396 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: and again the cow It's so funny, like when I 397 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: watched Kansas State. 398 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: He's the he's the offense, but he led to him 399 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: in everything. 400 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the offense, by the way, But I had 401 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: this strongest, like these strongest Kyle. 402 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: Used check vibes when I watched him. Yes, I think 403 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: it's because he wears number thirty four, looks like a 404 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: full back. 405 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he got this. 406 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: But he's a good enough athlete to win versus man. 407 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: He's physical enough to block as a full back, and 408 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: he can block in line. He just gives you a 409 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: lot of flexibility, which is what the tight end position 410 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: is supposed to do. 411 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: I was listening to one of his interviews and he 412 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 5: spoke and said a tight end and he watched was 413 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 5: Cooley growing up? 414 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: Oh really? They play Simar so. 415 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 5: They hear that and he come here. I'm like, well, 416 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 5: I just crazy how this stuff kind of adds up, 417 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But to watch him, I 418 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 5: mean it, you know, I smiled just to know, I say, oh, 419 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 5: Ap in his bag. He going to get those same 420 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 5: guys that he's seen that that made it happen, be 421 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 5: of the night, know where he came from, you know 422 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 5: what I mean? And you want that around because these 423 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 5: offenses you talk about it all the time. You want 424 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 5: to be able to have a guy out there on 425 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 5: the field that you know, at times we saw what 426 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 5: we had at tight end, and you know, don't take 427 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 5: nothing away from him. I think though all those guys 428 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 5: did a great job. But you hate kind of I 429 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 5: guess you can say showing your hand. Yeah, having a 430 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 5: guy then you're like, oh, they running the ball, they're 431 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 5: passing the ball. Now you get a guy we cannot 432 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 5: read and say, oh, I'm getting out of this all right, 433 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 5: you spread out nine. You know, this guy could be 434 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 5: in the backfield, he could be on the back field, 435 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 5: he could beat on the wing, he can be anywhere 436 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 5: in your offense, and the defense can't really you know, 437 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 5: uh basically show their hand. 438 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 2: They have to. 439 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 3: They have to sit there and and be wise enough. 440 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 5: So it's great to know that we add in that 441 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 5: kind of talent that we can be able to, you know, 442 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 5: have that kind of leverage. 443 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 444 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm really glad you said that, TENN because I think 445 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: Luke McCaffrey does the same thing as a receiver. Like 446 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: you look at Greg Jennings up in San Francisco, right, 447 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: He's like this big slot and what is a big 448 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: what is if everyone throws that turn around, right, you know, 449 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: pookin Akua is a big slot right, It's a guy 450 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: that can play slot receiver, run the receiver route tree. 451 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: But you feel comfortable with him, like cracking a defensive end. Yes, 452 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: cut somebody out, like they run ISO with Pokakua on linebacker. 453 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 2: Because because he's tough, he's he's he's dog tough, right. 454 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: And I think when you watch Christian McCaffrey, you get 455 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: that so much like Bensonatt. You can't adapt to it. 456 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: It's like we're gonna match Nicol. It's like, great, I 457 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: got this guy McCaffrey. He's gonna play his chin shop 458 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: right in your chin. 459 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: And I saw his helmet off like on five highlight. 460 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 5: I'm like, this new hemmet doesn't stay on, but he's 461 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 5: making a place. 462 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: I love it, man. 463 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 4: I love an interview he interviewed yesterday with Grant and Danny, 464 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 4: and I was just blown away by kid. 465 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: And the thing about it is like. 466 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: He said, I've only been playing wide receiving two years. 467 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 4: At the theme of his group. 468 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: He like, I only have been playing wide receiver two years, but. 469 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 4: If they put me in a game, I could play quarterback. 470 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: Running back, wide receiver. I can play inside, I can 471 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: play outside. I can do whatever you need me to do. 472 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 4: And his short shuttle, I think he got the fastest 473 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 4: short shuttle second fast seconds in the last what ten 474 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: to fifteen years. 475 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 3: So the athletic profile. 476 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: Is there and with these guys, and that's the scary boy, 477 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 4: He's only gonna get better. 478 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: Also, like to your point, you're always talking about returners, like, 479 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: I think he could return kicks return because he's got 480 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: that really linear downhill almost a running back running style, 481 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: So I definitely think he could do that. But again, 482 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: his floor is high because of what Tanna said with 483 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: the degree. His ceiling's high because of what Fred said 484 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: in terms of goal. He's played for two years. And 485 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: it's the same thing with Mike sanderstill. So to get 486 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: a guy with a really hot two guys yea incredibly 487 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: high floors and also ceilings that are just going to 488 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: keep moving up, I think it's really special. We talked 489 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: about Brandon Coleman, how I actually think after watching twenty 490 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: twenty two, So if you got time google TCU Offensive 491 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: Line versus two in twenty twenty two, you'll see what 492 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. 493 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: Throwing that ball around a lot while I know he 494 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 3: was backing out. 495 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 5: You know, you had to put that fat flat back 496 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 5: and hands, you know somebody. 497 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love a cowboy colge dude. I mean, 498 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 4: I think I only one that he failed the stats. 499 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: Honestly, I think that's why I had him as a 500 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 2: guard if he didn't have that. 501 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: Like it's so funny how that like thirty Like you know, 502 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: for example, bensonat where's number thirty four, I'm like, oh, 503 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: he's a full back. Yeah, but like you know, he's 504 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: built like a type. And then Brandon Coleman has the 505 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: thing on the negar. It's not even a neck, it's 506 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: a it's a cowboy. 507 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 3: It's like the cowboy. 508 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: It's the board. 509 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: So imagine those high school linebackers with that board on. 510 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: That's what he's wearing all the time. And I'm like, oh, 511 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: this dude's a guard because that's what guards were. But 512 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: so your your drip does matter when it comes to evaluate. 513 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, but I think he could do it. And 514 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: again he's got to handle the length and the speed 515 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: of NFL edge rushers. But there was enough there to say, 516 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: all right, maybe I was off in terms of the 517 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: guard and if he doesn't work out. We talked about 518 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: this when we did our our safe picks for the 519 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: Ticket of the Draft podcast. Offensive linemen are always safe 520 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: because if you think he can play left tackle and 521 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, movement to guard and you get. 522 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: A nice value pick there. 523 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: So I think all high floor guys, all high football 524 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: character guy. 525 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: Mcge don't forget about it. 526 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: Let's talk about these guys the last three. 527 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: So these guys are fun to talk about because they're 528 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: a little bit they're like kind of like the like 529 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: the roll of the dice a little bit, you know 530 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 531 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: So we got so we got. 532 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: Jordan McGee from Temple. We got Dominie Campton from you Dub. 533 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: We got Javonte Jean Baptiste Baptiste from Notre Dame formerly 534 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: by way of Ohio State. So, Fred, I know you've 535 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: watched some of these guys. 536 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: Hey, Jordan McGee, All right, let me tell you some 537 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: He's a lambbecker. 538 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 4: I always like lamberk and he wore a yeah. 539 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: So that's like a big deal at Temple. 540 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 4: Right, he comes downhill with bad intentions. He's I could 541 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 4: tell it, intellectual middle linebacker. He got that London Fletcher 542 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 4: and he's lining people up and he's he knows how 543 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 4: to manipulate a game, and it shocked me how well 544 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 4: he covered. 545 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: Like that's I was so glad you brought that up. 546 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: So glad he brought that up because he's because like that. Sorry, 547 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: like I cut you off. But when you're watching linebackers, 548 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: one of the things like Jeremiah Trotter, We're gonna talk 549 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: about him a little bit. You watch him from Clemson, 550 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: very instinctive, smart, got the pedigree, does not cover in 551 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: Clemson's defense. So I'm always looking because NFL linebackers, you 552 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: better better man recover. 553 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: When you get this guy in the fifth round. 554 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: Who's got the running hit ability, the coverage ability, I'm like, 555 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: this is great value, great leader, plays hard. 556 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: I think the one thing is he's a little little undersized. 557 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: Stakes and weights ex weights. 558 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 4: This what's gonna get him didn't be decided and he's 559 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 4: that perfect understudy behind Wagner And we just talked about it. 560 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: It's another team captain. He's another team captain. 561 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 5: And that's a great and he could be done it 562 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 5: on special teams early, you know what I mean. I mean, 563 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 5: you know they have that new kickoff rule and stuff 564 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 5: like that. You need guy, you need more linebackers, is 565 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 5: probably going to be able to you know, make it 566 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 5: out a little better in this style of you know, 567 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 5: kickoff team. So I just I'm just I'm just thrilled 568 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 5: that we went from a year ago talking my lineback 569 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 5: and position and now we just outlined back from free 570 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 5: agency to the draft. 571 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: Man, we just can't miss right now. 572 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is the type of guy that I 573 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: think is the modern linebacker. When you look at like. 574 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: Fred Warner, for example, he played like a pseudo safety. Yeah. 575 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: Put on a little bit of weight, yeah, has those 576 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: coverage instincts, can play the run. He's six ' three, 577 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: very similar to Wagner or Warner, excuse me. And he's 578 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: about two hundred and twenty five pounds, so another ten pounds, 579 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: a couple of akes in white, a couple of block 580 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: destruction techniques. 581 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're the same. 582 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 3: He don't need this buck weeks, but I get you. 583 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: I think the ceilings there. 584 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, dom I don't know if you guys watched Dominic 585 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: Hampton from dub Yeah, but he is a fun guy 586 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: to watch just because he's like and we talked about 587 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson being freaky and have crazy miserables. This guy's 588 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: six three two fifteen played safety, has thirty four and 589 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: a half inch arms, as you know, Fred, Yes, that's 590 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: very very long. 591 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, ran a four or five. I think he had 592 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: a forty inch vertical. 593 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: So in terms of athletic traits, yeah, there, it's there. 594 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: I mean he's a little stiff playing safety. But I 595 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: look at what Dan and what Wink want to do, 596 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: and they have curse. 597 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 4: I can say what they did with curse, and they 598 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 4: always find it. This site the safety lineback of hybrid. 599 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 4: They like to bring him on Blitz's. They like to 600 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 4: match him up on tight ends. So you look at 601 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 4: these guys say, oh yeah, he's he's gonna be good 602 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 4: to match up with any tall tight end. 603 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 3: It separates from the core what's his name? 604 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: Like, he's one of those guys where you find a 605 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 4: package for him, like this is that type dude. 606 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: He reminds me a little bit of like a uh 607 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: this is not a slight against cam Crow, but like 608 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: a more athletic, like a more twitched twitch. Like again, 609 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's that instinctive Cam Croll was 610 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: crazy instinctive but more twitched up, like longer, bigger version, 611 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: like he's a freak. Yeah, and like that's why he's 612 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: going to the fifth And it's like one of those players. Man, 613 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: Like when I was doing film evaluation, you come across Dominickhampton, 614 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: You're like, that is a dan Quinn football player. 615 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: So like the fact that he's here is really funny. Yeah. 616 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: Then we got Javonte Jean Baptiste, who again falls to 617 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: this bucket of like crazy traitsy players, right, thirty five 618 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: inch arms, Yeah, he's six fives, he's two thirty. Like 619 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: when you when you say, let me draw up traits 620 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: for an edge rusher, Yeah, he's got all of them. 621 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: He's a seventh round pick, got to develop a little bit. 622 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: But you say, as a guy who could like this 623 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: is like we were talking about talking about the Jason on 624 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: tick of the Draft podcast, in these rounds you want 625 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: to take shots. 626 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: This is a shot. 627 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: Yes, the guy with a lot of traits, a lot 628 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: of athletic upside, And you say, we got him win 629 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: the right defensive system because of these measurables. 630 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 3: We're going to get him a chain development. 631 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I love it. 632 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 5: And then when you just think about it, think about 633 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 5: the years of having guys on your team that been 634 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 5: free agent guys, you know, guys that still made the 635 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 5: squad because they was putting the situation that you ain't 636 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 5: gotta play every day. We're gonna bring you in and 637 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 5: do what you do best. That's what I see with him. 638 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 5: That's the first thing I thought about saying, Hey, you know, 639 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 5: he's one of them. Like I said, he's one of 640 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 5: those guys. You look at him, say, all right, I 641 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 5: see what they see. But guess what, We're not asking 642 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 5: you to come in here. 643 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: And be now, light a round. We used to come 644 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 3: in here, rus. 645 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 5: We're gonna we're gonna have certain packages where we when 646 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 5: we put you in the game, let that dog eat, 647 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 5: let them go hunt, you know what I mean, paying 648 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 5: them ears back. So, like you say, the trace alone 649 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 5: is like eye popping, you know what I mean. I'm 650 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 5: sitting there looking at this guy. Man, this dude's a 651 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 5: huge guy. But with the style of football and the 652 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 5: way they play here, yeah, oh, I can't wait to 653 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 5: see him. I'm just you know, I've been I've been 654 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 5: yearning for us to play the kind of football that 655 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 5: I watched these guys play on the other side, you 656 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 5: know what I mean. Yeah, everywhere they've been where this 657 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 5: defense has been, they played with that kind of defense where. 658 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: I used to be like at night, like okay, boy, 659 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: we're playing them today. You guys up. They better. 660 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 5: They better have their calls than they read because the 661 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 5: ball gotta come out nine. If they ain't coming out nine, 662 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna have a long day. I ain't getting the 663 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 5: ball a lot. So that's what I've been waiting on 664 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 5: to see us, do you know? So I talked about 665 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 5: the year and a year. I don't see enough fills 666 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 5: of catalty on the outside. They're not anybody face and 667 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 5: up front. Every now and then, you know, we're gonna 668 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 5: get a sack of two. But if we ain't getting 669 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 5: a sack, it's a long day. 670 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 3: It's a long day. That day has come. Well, I'm 671 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: really gonna play. 672 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm really glad you talked about on the other side 673 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: because the other guys in the division they also drafted 674 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: some people. 675 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: Yeah they did. 676 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: So what we're gonna do is graph change doesn't matter, 677 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: So we're gonna give out some graft graft draft RaSE. 678 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: U C l A. 679 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: For our division. Rivals. 680 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: So we're gonna start with the New York Football Giants, 681 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: and so let's go through through their first three picks. 682 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: We got Molik Neighbors, Tyler Nuban from Minnesota, and Andrew 683 00:26:54,760 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: Phillips from Kentucky. So those three guys, I actually like them. 684 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: A lobby I can say, at the end of the day, 685 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 3: you can't hate. We're gonna tell the truth. Yeah right, 686 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: Milik Neighbors. 687 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 4: We know finally Daniel Jones got a win because he listen, 688 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 4: Darren Waller, maybe he retired two years ago, didn't tell 689 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 4: no matter he's. 690 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: Having he's going through a lot of stuff. 691 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you going through divorce now. Yeah, we're not doing 692 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: good as NFL marriage. 693 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 3: Thank you for. 694 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: Holding his nap holding down, you know, my wife. 695 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 3: But Tyler Newman, you really like his. 696 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: Ball skills and he fits the defense really well. Phillips 697 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: also fits the defense man corner aggressive, not a lot 698 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: of ball production, but reminds me a lot of Deontay Banks. 699 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 2: And he's the corner on the other side. 700 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 3: And I know you love THEO. 701 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: Just the Johnson. I see like I'm okay with THEO Johnson. 702 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: I think he's big. 703 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: I think he's physical a little stiff in terms of 704 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: athletic traits, like you're betting on upside there. Tyrone Tracy 705 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: from Purdue one of the best pass catching backs in 706 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: this draft. So love that fit. 707 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: And then Darius I think it's from U. C. L a. 708 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 2: Y's probably say that. 709 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: I don't really know a lot of a lot of 710 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: file on him, but I actually I like the players 711 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: in the draft. 712 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: They felt a lot of needs. 713 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: I think they got some playmakers and they got better offensively. 714 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give this C minus. 715 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,479 Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna give it a C because it's just 716 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 4: not enough draft picks. I didn't think they had enough. 717 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: Only six picks. 718 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, only six picks. 719 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna hold that against him when I know 720 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 4: they was a team deprived of talent. 721 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously minus is being a little but you 722 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: know it's a giant, so minus. 723 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 3: I just give him a D. 724 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm talking about, because. 725 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: I don't like him. May be beating on us too much. 726 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 3: I hate that. 727 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 4: I'm a little pity right, And every time somebody say 728 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 4: New York Giants, I close my eyes and all I 729 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: see is Michael straight hand. 730 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 731 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would never beat. I thought, I thought, I 732 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: thought it was when I saw the Neighbors. 733 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 5: Pick, I was like a quarterback. I was just that 734 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 5: those pics want to be quarterback. But I understand it. 735 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 5: It's crazy because I was watching the presser for All 736 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 5: Neighbors and you know, you know these guys get you 737 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 5: know Instagram, they take you to take the video and 738 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 5: they go go to speaking on it, and they was like, 739 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 5: here's a guy that was just in California. It was 740 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 5: a guy sounding It's like he is a guy that 741 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 5: was just in California. He was shopping for houses and 742 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 5: now he and he in New York. He going to 743 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 5: the New York Giant. Dude, this looked like a guy 744 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 5: that want to be in New York. And I remember 745 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 5: the face that he was making on that. 746 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: I say, boy, he really hot right now, so you 747 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 3: can say what you say. Don't get me wrong. He's 748 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: happy to be drafted. Man, be happy. If I told 749 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: you you going to the job, you aready be catching 750 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: balls from Daniel job and he spoke about it. Look, 751 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, you gotta be careful what you say. 752 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: What I told you. 753 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 5: What happened to me that year going into my senior 754 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 5: year in college, a guy we went to New York 755 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 5: for some you know, the Big East Breakfast fall of Faller, 756 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 5: you know, our captains, And I told him I don't 757 00:29:59,440 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 5: want to come here. 758 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: The next year I was there, so I feel like 759 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: I'm you know, I said, open my big mouth. Yeah. 760 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 5: He had just said when they was on a podcast, 761 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 5: they asked him, what do you think about now you going. 762 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: To the job? Oh I saw this. 763 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 5: He said they better get a quarterback because you know, 764 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 5: you know, the quarterback situation ain't right. 765 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: So he so his first job is to apologize. 766 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's legitimate. 767 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: Like if you want to be like like real draft analysis, 768 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: that's a legitimate criticism, like you've got all these weapons, 769 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: and are you locked in at quarterback when you could 770 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: have been locked in at quarterback? 771 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 772 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: Again, like I like these players a lot. But yeah, 773 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: that's that's let's do the Eagles. This is gonna be 774 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: so much fun here we go. All right, So we 775 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: got Quinnon Mitchell from Toledo the quarterback. We got Cooper 776 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: Desine from Iowa. We got Jylex Hunt from Houston Christian Oh. 777 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: They say he's the ultimate predator project. Yeah, we'll talk 778 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: about him in a second. We got will Shipley from Clemson. 779 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: Those are their first four. Let's talk about those guys 780 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: real quick, Fred, do you want to start? 781 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 3: Queen? 782 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: Queen and Mitchell. I don't know how he failed to 783 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: the end, Yeah, what he you? I thought he was 784 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: only gone by fifteen, like the worst I've seen with fifteen. 785 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Once I seen him fall out, like he go again? 786 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: What was the reason though? 787 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: They didn't say why. I just quarterbacks and back in 788 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 4: tackles step out of there. And once they pushed him 789 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 4: out of there, Philadelphia just sitting there. They had a 790 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 4: chief state waiting. 791 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: On before he at got there. 792 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: But Queen apparently they tried to So what I heard 793 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: is they tried to trade up, but no one wanted 794 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: to trade. They having a wash. It like they tried 795 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: to trade nineteen or something, and. 796 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: Then no one's Everyone's like, no, we're good because there's 797 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: all these good players, right, everyone's getting pushed down. You know. 798 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy because it was like the year 799 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: of the offense. 800 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it was really your offense heavy 801 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 5: draft in the first round, and when I started seeing. 802 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 3: Those defensive guys, it's crazy. 803 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 5: How when it went from tackles, or went from quarterbacks 804 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 5: to tackles, and soon as that first defensive guy was. 805 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: Taking it was all that. It was all dens, you 806 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So it was just weird. 807 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 5: But one of the guys that stood out to me 808 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 5: when you know with them, is is Cooper Dijohn, you 809 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 5: know what I mean. Like this just we was talking, 810 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 5: I'm like, they asked me what I want him. I'm like, 811 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 5: I don't know, do he fit what we do? But 812 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 5: hell of a football player. 813 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 4: But do you see him playing a safety or your safet? Yeah, 814 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 4: a safety, he'll be a safety and a nickel he 815 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: would be the honey badger. 816 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah he would do. 817 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 3: He'll have a and he returned kicks. 818 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 4: And I just think when you put two guys, that's 819 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 4: a young core to put with those young defensive tack 820 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 4: becles they taken in the last couple of years. You 821 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: got your sticky long coner, you got your safety slash 822 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 4: nickel that can aggest, that can blitz, that can cover 823 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 4: tight end, that can cover slots. That's coop of the 824 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 4: gene to me is one of those fixtures. I think 825 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 4: he'll be a ten year Philadelphia Eagle because I just 826 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 4: think he's that type of player. He's got London say, 827 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 4: don't there ever put him at Coner. Yeah, that's how 828 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 4: London fields. And I can see that a little bit. 829 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: So let's talk about that real quick, because that's the 830 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: player that got in the trade with Washington. With you, 831 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: and so Washington traded back. They received fifty to fifty three, yeah, 832 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: and one sixteen or once sixty one, excuse me, and 833 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: then Philly received forty which was this pick seventy eight 834 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: and one fifty two. So one thing I wanted to 835 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: call attention to here is we got Mike sander Still 836 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: out of this trade and Ben Sner not. Yeah, I 837 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: now this is this is I don't want to be 838 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: hot taking here, and I kind of put I kind 839 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: of put Sander Still and Cooper Degene as a slot 840 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: players in a very similar tier. I give a slight 841 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: edge to Cooper Degen, but in terms of getting a 842 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: football player in the slot safety kind of ballpark, sander 843 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: Still is excellent. So to trade back, get a guy, 844 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: get two guys a very good value. I think that trade, 845 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: even though they get Cooper Degene, yeah, kind of favors Washington. 846 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,239 Speaker 3: No, I do, because I almost had to put uh 847 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: the tackle in there too. 848 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Yeah. 849 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 4: Like at the end of the day, we end up 850 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 4: with three second round picks, and all those second round 851 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 4: picks will be guys that'll be added to this team. 852 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 3: These guys are going to play a lot of rip. 853 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 4: So if I'm taking three compared to one, I think 854 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 4: I'm winning to go back and get there. 855 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: I'm fine. Then most people were like, I could Washington 856 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: trade with Philip deevs. We ain't here for bes. We 857 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 3: don't do feelings no more like we was doing that 858 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: years ago. You know, we can't cherry with him. Yes 859 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 3: I can. You got that pick. I won't it here. 860 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 3: You take it, especially if I'm getting more foot so 861 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. 862 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 863 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: The next one is Jelex Hunt from Houston Christian Really 864 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: he played safety at like Yale or Cornell or something 865 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: like that, then transferred played stand up edge. 866 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 2: I mean he looks the part. 867 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: He's thirty four in charms, fast moves well, developmental guy. 868 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: You know, they're not looking for him to play next year, 869 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: but they don't have to because they're Philly. They have 870 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: like thousand defensive You. 871 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 5: Notice how most of these guys in the draft, has 872 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 5: played elsewhere, like have been on that's something three four 873 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 5: years and played the last year of this other team 874 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 5: and got drafted. 875 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 3: That's what they do now. 876 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: They took and run and then Will Shipley from l 877 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: Clemson the next guy, who I as a pass catching 878 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: back I really enjoyed watching. Reminds me a lot. They're 879 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: not the same player. They're not the same player. They're 880 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: not the same player. Remind me a little bit of 881 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, okay, not the same player. 882 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 3: I was you gonna say, that's why. 883 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: But there were some similarities in terms of being able 884 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: to line up in the slot, run a choice, find 885 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: mismatches in the past game. 886 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 2: So I really liked those first four picks. And they 887 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: got let's go next four. 888 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: We got a Nia Smith from Texas A and m 889 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: Yes Trotter from Clemson, Trevor Keagan from Michigan. We got 890 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson from Florida State and Dylan McMahon. 891 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 2: McMahon McMahon, I know. 892 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: He plays center. I don't know what I know what 893 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: school is from, So leave a comment if you know 894 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: what schools from. Undersized center, though, what do you think fred. 895 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 3: Nia Y Smith is a do it all type of guy. 896 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, he will be working a slot. Uh you could. 897 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 3: You can motion into backfield if you wanted to. He's 898 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 3: a return guy. 899 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 4: I didn't foresee him going this early, but he was 900 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 4: a guy that you know, I kicked my eye on. 901 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 4: I was like, somebody with a plane gonna get this guy, 902 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 4: and he can be He can be special almost not 903 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 4: because this one play running big one play while received. 904 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 4: But you remember last year when Miami drafted a train 905 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 4: h and people like I wonder how to gonna use him? 906 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 4: I think has a plan to do with Smith the 907 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 4: same way and Jeremi, I try to he's to We keep. 908 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: Talking about pedigree. 909 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 4: I agree in parents, Philadelphiel drafting his dadd and now 910 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 4: they drafted him. And I think they drafted him because 911 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 4: they know he can be a project, that we can 912 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 4: work on him and hunt. 913 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 3: But do you think he felt fail I thought he 914 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 3: was supposed to be drafting early. 915 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 916 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that hurt him in 917 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: the pre draft he didn't test, and so when you 918 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: watch my film, you're like, I don't know how athletic 919 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: you are. He didn't run, and he didn't do anything 920 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: else and so instinctive football players, smart football player. But 921 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: with that linebacker spot, you need We talked about it 922 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: with McGee. You need some coverage, trades of ability. So 923 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: I think that's what hurt him. 924 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 5: I just hate to see guys that I like playing 925 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 5: for the guys in our Johnny Wilson, we got to that. 926 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: We fought, let's talk about Johnny will because think a 927 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: lot of fans probably feel the same way. 928 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 2: So you know, just to guy Jason and I. 929 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: We went to the Senior boy went to the combine, 930 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: and so Johnny Wilson obviously very physically impressive. I mean 931 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: he's he's literally I've never I've never I can honestly 932 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: say this, never seen a receiver looks like him. The 933 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: problem with Johnny Wilson that he didn't I don't think 934 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: you fit with the Commander's draft vision because you watch 935 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: him at the Senior Bowl. He did it, did his 936 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: one on ones, then left practice. He had an injury, 937 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: but he left practice, went to the combine, crushed every 938 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: route about halfway through, hamstring tightened up. 939 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 2: Left. 940 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: Talk to people at Florida State, how much does he 941 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: love football? And look at the guys we've got they 942 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: die for football. So in terms of traits, athleticism, upside, 943 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: you like this pick for Philly, But he's not He's 944 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: not a commander with the sea on it, you know 945 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 946 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: And I think that's what differentiates him. 947 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: Again, like the we the commanders in my opinion, Now 948 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: you'd have to talk to Adam or you know, Dan 949 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: about this. We were not this year in a position 950 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: to accommodate that. We got to establish our culture and 951 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: like maybe if we've got a couple veteran like veterans 952 00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: in the locker room that can bring the young guy 953 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: along and say this is how we do things as 954 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: a commander, you feel more comfortable. 955 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: But I don't think they felt that the team was 956 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 2: there yet. 957 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 3: It makes it makes sense. I could deal with that. 958 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so Trevor Keagan's offensive lineman, Del McMahon offensive lineman. 959 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: I like a lot of these players. I like the 960 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: upside of Jeremiah Tater, Junior Ania Smith. You talked about 961 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: love the like that Johnny Wilson could be a home 962 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: run swing for them late love the first four picks. 963 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give him D minus. It's nice. 964 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give them a see you in Philly. 965 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 2: See what you got, Tanda. 966 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 5: I'm filling one of them teams. I don't hate him 967 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 5: as much as I hate to two guys. 968 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 2: Minus. 969 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah that seems fair, like all those players 970 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: given me se minus love it all right? 971 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: Now, let's do the Cowboys. I don't even need to 972 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 2: see this, I know. 973 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: I know. 974 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 2: My grades would be. 975 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: Tyler Gland from Tyler Guyden from Oklahoma, Marshawn Neeland from 976 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: Western Michigan, Cooper Bebbe from Kansas State. Yeah, Maurice lufol 977 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: from Notre Dame, Caitlin Carson from Wake Forrest, Ryan Florinoy 978 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: from Southern Missouri, No Eastern Missouri, Western Missouri, Directional Missouri 979 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: is where he's from. Nathan Thomas is a raging Cajun, 980 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know who Justin Rodgers is. So you 981 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: google that if you're a Dallas Cowboy fan. 982 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. So let's talk about the first four. 983 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 3: You know how Field about Tyler Guiden. Yeah, you know 984 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 3: how both of us feeled about marsha and so Tyler. 985 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: Guiden project a little bit. And that's where again, like, 986 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: is the value to trade him in the first round 987 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: for athletic traits worth it something to think about. He 988 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't be ready probably this year, and knowing he's going 989 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: in Dallas, he probably will because the. 990 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you'll probably have to play. 991 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: But like the athletic traits are out there, insane, like insane, 992 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: built in the lab type stuff. Marshawn Neeland. Love the player, 993 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: love the effort. I think a guy that could have 994 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: easily been here in Washington. Power rushers sometimes have a 995 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: hard time at the next level because the power that 996 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: they played within colleges and translate. 997 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 2: But love that guy. 998 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: Cooper Bibay one of the best, most physical run blocking guards, 999 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: steal old man. Worry about his past protection ability, Yep, 1000 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying in terms of he's got 1001 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: thirty inch thirty one in charms, so sometimes those longer 1002 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 1: guys get after you a little bit and Reese through foul. 1003 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: Probably one of the most physical downhill linebackers in the class, 1004 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: so I was very high on him. Uh. And then 1005 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 1: Kellen Carson, physical corner, Ryan Florinoy excellent kind of special 1006 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: teams wide receiver with athletic traits UH. 1007 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: And then Nathan Rogers. 1008 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: Nathan Thomas is a guy that I think he was 1009 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: like six six three forty probably moves to guard, but 1010 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: another depth piece there for them. 1011 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 4: And so the guy Justin Rodgers because you don't know 1012 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 4: who the game do you know who he is? You 1013 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 4: know what I told you, I don't like regular named football. 1014 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 4: You know how I feel about it. 1015 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: So everywhere, what are thoughts about the captain? 1016 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 3: I care nothing about those guys. Let's go hand skip, 1017 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 3: let's go a hand move forward. Yeah, I have to 1018 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 3: say you. 1019 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, they added some guys 1020 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 4: to a team that already kind of fall apart of 1021 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 4: little bit you know what, they are mentally following up 1022 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 4: like they on the point so bad that Jerry. 1023 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 3: Just blabborating that name. 1024 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So during the draft, everyone knew they wanted 1025 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: a running back. No, they wrote it one running but 1026 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: I mean they knew they were going to target a 1027 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: running back. 1028 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 2: And so which one is it going to be? Is 1029 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: it going to be? You know, I don't know, Trey Benson, 1030 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks? Who knows? And then Jerry after day one goes, 1031 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 2: we are high high high, he's high high on our boards. 1032 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 2: What's his name? 1033 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: Jonathan Brooks? We want to draft Jonathan Brooks? Interview in 1034 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: my thirty years. I thought it was the best interview 1035 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: that I'd ever had with a player. He's outstanding and 1036 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: he's a great football player, so obviously interest is high, right, 1037 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: And then what does the Carolina Panthers do? They say no, 1038 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: and then Carolina traded up ahead of. 1039 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 3: The Cowboy h bigs before the Cowboys like Jo No, 1040 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 3: I have to look back like two pigs before. Just 1041 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 3: to really give it to him, it's socking. Listen. 1042 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 4: It was so bad that they got on the phone 1043 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 4: and signed Zeke the next twenty four hours, a twenty 1044 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 4: nine year old z in a crop top. 1045 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 3: They didn't signed him right after They couldn't get your job. 1046 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: So I mean because of that, I'd probably give it 1047 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 2: like an alf funny think. 1048 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 5: Yeah I didn't give me, don't care about but hey, 1049 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 5: i'd say this though them getting ze back. 1050 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 3: I'm happy for him, man, you know that a marriage 1051 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 3: maiden head. I feel like he should have never left it. 1052 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 5: And you know, I feel like he was a workhorse, 1053 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 5: fun man that they should have kept around. But just 1054 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 5: to see that and went on that transpired. Man, that 1055 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 5: just goes to show you, man, now you really you 1056 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 5: really don't understand until you understand Jerry Jones day do 1057 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 5: a whole lot for them, But that ain't what we 1058 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,720 Speaker 5: need you to be doing. Jered that day, Let you boys, 1059 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 5: let your son whoever else have that job, do that 1060 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 5: because you were out displating the beans. 1061 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 2: Man. 1062 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 3: Hey, like they said church, won't he do it? 1063 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 2: Every year? He does that every year? 1064 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 3: He doesn't? 1065 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: Yeah the uh the so they also last year didn't 1066 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: he pulled up he held up the actual big board. 1067 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, every picky won it. 1068 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like a wacky that's a wacky bitch. 1069 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 3: It's dirty because he does it every year. I don't 1070 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 3: think you know he's doing it, or do you think he's. 1071 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 2: Doing it, like because we're talking about it, I don't know. 1072 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1073 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 4: He's Jerry. He hasn't lived by rules in fifty years. Like, 1074 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 4: what are you who's going to stop him? Lit Jerry 1075 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 4: stop him? 1076 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, nobody. He's He's like. 1077 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 4: He's unstoppable for us. I'm sorry, Like Tannis say, as 1078 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 4: good as as much ed up as he brings to 1079 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 4: I don't even call him America's team. I caught him 1080 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:39,959 Speaker 4: Austin's team. 1081 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 3: As much as he brings to the team, he takes 1082 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 3: ton of that away ton over the. 1083 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 2: Way, Yeah for sure. 1084 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: All right, So we gave everybody else a grade, and yeah, 1085 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: I think we need to finish off by giving the 1086 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: commanders a grade. 1087 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 4: It's so hard to grade before we see these guys down. Yeah, 1088 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 4: it's just it's unfair sometime. But for the selections and 1089 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 4: and I'm really feel great the maneuvering. I was so 1090 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 4: impressed with the I'm gonna trade back and get this secondess, 1091 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 4: this third second round pick, so the mind frame, and 1092 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give them an A for staying disciplined to 1093 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 4: your board. Most teams don't do it. Most teams see 1094 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 4: that that can't out there. Danglyn, I'm gonna have to 1095 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 4: get that coop of the gene. 1096 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 3: No, Sandy Scriell as well. 1097 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 4: We want so then stay put. So I am gonna 1098 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,720 Speaker 4: give them the props for staying there. Yeah, and getting 1099 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 4: guys like being knocked the snot at you. 1100 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna give you an A for that. 1101 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 5: I'm giving them b You know all I said before, 1102 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 5: I was I was impressed. I love it the month, 1103 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 5: you know, like they still got to go out there 1104 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 5: and play the game and say I go out there 1105 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 5: and develop these guys. 1106 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 3: You don't know who's gonna make the squad who's not. 1107 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 5: I don't want to get too technical with it, but 1108 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,280 Speaker 5: when it comes to just seeing how things was done differently, 1109 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 5: that BEE stands for just man, I'm happy to see 1110 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 5: if it really was a change, I really saw them. 1111 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 5: You know, it didn't look like the I guess you 1112 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 5: could say the Commanders or Washington teams of Oh oh yeah, 1113 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 5: you know from the years I've been around here, right, 1114 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 5: you're just reaching just to reach, you know what I mean, 1115 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 5: throwing money at. 1116 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: The football team. 1117 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: I think that's actually that's excellent, Enow, that's exactly I 1118 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: feel exactly the same way I think, though, I give 1119 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: it a B plus because they've got a quarterback of 1120 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: the future. We even't talked about that a lot, but 1121 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: I think like that's. 1122 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 2: A huge part. 1123 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: You got a new owner, new head coach, new GM 1124 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: and now a new quarterback and a guy that is 1125 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: tremendously talented. We got to sit down and talk with him, 1126 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: and just his maturity in the interview that he showed 1127 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: like his maturity on draft night. And again I'm not 1128 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: saying he's going to be the savor of the organization. 1129 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to put that pressure on him. But 1130 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: it's nice guy. 1131 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 2: I like they're not saying he's to say to get together. 1132 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 3: How many time have we seen us jack with quarterback 1133 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 3: and say here r G three, go save us. No, 1134 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 3: they said, hey, dude. 1135 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 4: You pull it over a puzzle. Come on in here 1136 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 4: and hopefully you can get to the point where you're 1137 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 4: taking us to champion. 1138 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: And again the fact that he's so talented and the 1139 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 1: upside's there. And then to Fred's point, that mindset around him, Yes, 1140 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: I think is incredibly important. So I'm excited for that 1141 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: something to give him a B plus. And again for 1142 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: the process for the quarterback, and I think just again 1143 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: for sticking to your board. I think all those points 1144 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 1: are one hundred percent true and that's why we feel 1145 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: so excited about it. I think that's going to do 1146 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: it for today's show. Please make sure to like and 1147 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. If you want to 1148 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 1: see our faces, you can check us out on YouTube. 1149 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: I think that's going to do it for Oh yeah, 1150 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: get the shirt. Yes, all right, that's it. 1151 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 2: See you. 1152 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: The views and opinions expressed by our podcast guests and 1153 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: or hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect 1154 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: the views or positions of the Washington Commanders or any 1155 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: of their representatives.