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They'd had immigrant neighbors above them 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: when they lived in that apartment and know and one 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: day Mama had started praying differently. She would pray like 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: they did, like every step on American soil was sako sank, 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: the type of prayer that enlisted her whole body. 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 3: Ella remembers peeking at Mama when she. 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: Was supposed at closed her eyes and how it felt 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: like she was looking at a superhero bathed in the 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: light of the sun from which she gained her powers. 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: It was how she prayed right before keV caught that 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: attempted arm robbery charge. It was how she prayed after 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: Ella's self exile, and whenever Ella would return to the 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: changing neighborhood and spy on Mama, she'd see that it 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: was how she prayed after that white kid in Charleston, 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 2: South Carolina had walked through the doors of that church, 28 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: durininged the Bible study group just like Mama's, and then 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 2: pulled out a forty five caliber pistol before opening fire. 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: Ella hated that kind of prayer, sounded like they should 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: be grateful just to be here. She remembers reading about 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: that kid who killed those churchgoers, and she remembers praying 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: for revenge, praying for frogs and locusts, and for rivers 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: of blood, for every Confederate flag to find its own 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: funeral pyre. She cried a lot back then. The videos 36 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: that been ubiquitous, some more explicit than others. Six shots 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: into the back of a man fleeing the rest on 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: child support warrant, or two shots out and cops standing 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: over a prone, bleeding body of a young man in 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: the midst of protest commemorating the anniversary of another boy 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 2: killed by a cop. After each one, Ella had traveled 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: straight to the side of the killing, and she touched 43 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 2: the ground, breathed in the air, sucked that history deep 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: into her body, and held the violence of the previous hours. 45 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: Sometimes it felt pornographic to go to that could to 46 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: Sacked and McKinley, Texas, where the black kids younger than 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: her sat on the ground, handcuffed while their white neighbors jeered, 48 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: and one cop grabbed a girl in a bathing suit 49 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: by the arm and hurled her to the ground, then 50 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: dug his knee into her back while she wailed for 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: her mother. She'd returned from every trip with her head 52 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: in her hands. What if I'm the answer, she had 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: asked herself, What if I'm the one we've been praying for. 54 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: Two blocks away, in an apartment across the street from 55 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: the Baptist Church, a phone rings. Hey, welcome to the 56 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: Black Houtells Podcast. Your host Rod and Hearing, and we're 57 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: live on a Monday, ready to do some podcasting. You 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: can find us on itunestitch, r potomatic search to Blackout Tips, 59 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 2: leave us five star reviews. 60 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 4: The official weapon of the show is an unofficial sport 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: and bulletball extreme. 62 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: And of course. 63 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 4: This episode's excerpt is a new book that I'm reading 64 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: right now that I'm almost done with. 65 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: It's a fast read. It's called Riot Baby. I don't 66 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: know if you guys have heard of this. 67 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: It's called Riot Baby, and I'm gonna fuck up his name, 68 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: but I believe it's tochi Ayr Boushie. I hope I 69 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: said that right. But yeah, it's a good book so far. 70 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: It's kind of about. What I like is that it 71 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: pulls from real life. It's a fiction book, so I 72 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: like that it pulls from real life to give the 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: background for the characters, and they pulls from real life 74 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: in some ways. I think, like, like they have characters 75 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: in the book that's like Jesus and Marrow. 76 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: They got characters in the book that. 77 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: Like kind of remind you of like Prodigy form, like 78 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: one of those name Prodigy from Mob Deep, like that 79 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: type of name. 80 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: So I don't know if. 81 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: They're the real Prodigies or they're the real it's the 82 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: real Marrow because like one of the character's name is Merrow. 83 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: But but yeah, I really like this book. It's it's 84 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: kind of like and in this part, there's this girl Ella, 85 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: and she has a younger brother, keV, and keV was 86 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: born during the La riots, so that's why it's called 87 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: Riot Baby. He literally was born during that that riot 88 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: after Rodney King the Rodney King verdict, and so because 89 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: of that, like they if, the book then follows them 90 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: through their lives. And Ella basically has powers like she 91 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: can teleport, she can fly, she can read, look at 92 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: people and read their future, read their minds. She can 93 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: affect people's brains, like make them feel a certain way. 94 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 3: She can make herself. 95 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: Invisible, like she has like she pretty much has like 96 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: every superpower just about and her brother keV, you know, 97 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: grows up kind of without superpowers, and her mom becomes 98 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: so scared of Ella at what would happen to my 99 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: child if people find out she got some type of 100 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: powers and stuff. 101 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 3: And because her powers are so. 102 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: Strong, she can't really control them, like she like, you know, 103 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: her homemost kicking when she's a teenager, she got mad 104 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: at her mom. She almost killed her mom with her 105 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: powers by accident, you know. So it's so it's just 106 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: an interesting read. But one of the things that they 107 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: kind of explored in that that exitt right there, was 108 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: if you are a black person and you had powers 109 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: in this America where and they you know, they don't 110 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: as you can tell, they don't really shy from the 111 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: fact that they're black in America. And they take you 112 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: through it like you know obviously the LA riots. Then 113 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: you have New York stopping Fresh. There's a chapter where 114 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: he gets stopped. They talk about him the keV, the 115 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: younger one being stopped in Fresh. 116 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: To her, that's my police. 117 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: He ends up in rikers Allen in prison, so then 118 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: they end up talking kind of about the prison industrial 119 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: complex and what prison is like and all this stuff. 120 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: And then when he gets out of prison, he moves 121 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: into what it's called a supported community or something like that, 122 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: and it's basically like prison outside of prison. Like you 123 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: have a you have they give your own apartment and stuff. 124 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: You get a job, but then the job money, uh, 125 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: you have to use to pay for your lodging, and 126 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: then you can't really do anything. 127 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: You can't go anywhere. 128 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: You can't you know, like you stay in that place, 129 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: you can't have visitors any of that stuff. So, you know, 130 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: it's just a very interesting book. And it takes place 131 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: in like a future, like not too distant in the 132 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: future that this stuff doesn't you know, happen. But like 133 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: a bit it's a little bit futuristic, you know. So man, 134 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: it's just it's a really good book. But yeah, I 135 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: love I don't know what. I haven't finished it yet, 136 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: so I don't know where it's going. But y Ella 137 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: as fucking powerful as she is, and that idea of 138 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: having all this power, and you're like, what if I'm 139 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: the one. 140 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: Black people are waiting on to make this shit right? 141 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: You know, like all this pain and suffering that black 142 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: people go through in America if somebody was black, and damn, 143 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: they're just fucking invincible. Like it's a miracle black people 144 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: haven't done something already, you know what I mean, Like 145 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: more than we have to just in vengeance even or 146 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: just to get justice, you know, after these one of 147 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: these things. But what if someone had the power to 148 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: get some form of justice that would be amazing. 149 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: So anyway, I just think it's a great book so far. Cool. 150 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: I remember you mentioned it earlier, and yeah, that's interesting 151 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: because depending on the person, it could be a very 152 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: violent thing or it could be a very peaceful thing. 153 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: It would depends on the person. 154 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it just depends on also, like the 155 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: mastery of her powers, like she her powers were so 156 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: unpredictable and hard to man, and she basically disappeared from 157 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: her family one night like she like she like she 158 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: almost killed their mom. And then like I think they 159 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: watched I think it was when I'm Gonna do Diallo 160 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: or somebody got killed in New York. 161 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: Killed by the police. 162 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: It was on TV, and she couldn't take it, and 163 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: she literally just blinked, blinked out, and she was gone 164 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: for her family for years. 165 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: And after that, keV. 166 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: Starts getting harassed by police and stuff, and before he 167 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: didn't really used to, and come to find out it's 168 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: because Ella was using her powers to keep the police 169 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: off of him. So so now you're getting stopped and 170 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: freshed and harassed, you know, hanging with the wrong crew, 171 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: like and. 172 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: He and he was when he was a kid, he was. 173 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: Really really smart, and his whole thing was he was 174 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: gonna be smart and go to college and figure out 175 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: some sort of way to help Ella with science. And 176 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: of course that gets he is up in prison and 177 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: all this stuff. So it's you know, from and they 178 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 2: do the whole thing with they talk about him going 179 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: to prison where he's accused of something, and then you 180 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: stay in prison so long because you can't afford to 181 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: get out, and that you just end up taking like that. 182 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: Please, you don't. 183 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: Realize how long you're in there. You're you're in there 184 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: because they're holding you for a trial. They keep pushing 185 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: your trial day back. You get in a fight, they 186 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: add that to your time, to a sentence that's not 187 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: really a sentence, you know, stuff like that. So it's 188 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: a fucking I love the book so far. 189 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: So all you said you had some random thoughts. 190 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Well before you do that, let me just 191 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: say to people, Hey, leave us five star reviews. Go iTunes, 192 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: stitch your putomatic, leave us five star reviews and read 193 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: them on the show. 194 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: We love those. 195 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: If you're listening to the show and you enjoy it, 196 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: leave us those five star reviews because I mean, honestly, 197 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 4: that's what we do it for, all right. 198 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: And of course we can't move out of this segment 199 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 3: without Butterfly in the Sky. I can go twice. It's high. 200 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: Take a look. It's in up reading Rainbow. 201 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 4: I can go anywhere. Rain to Know and Raise to Grow. 202 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: Reading Rainbow. 203 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: Can be anything. Take a look. It's that book reading rainbow. 204 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: Reading rainbow. 205 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: All right, go ahead, player, Okay, this is a really 206 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 3: simple one. 207 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 4: I think I do the I don't want to say 208 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: the quote unquote more serious one first, but the one 209 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: that kind of just affected me today. Has anyone ever 210 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 4: been bothered by doing self evaluations at your job? Because 211 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 4: they had asked us to do these like self evaluations, 212 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 4: and then you know, they do their evaluations and I 213 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: guess you get up and you guys get actually compared 214 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 4: to and it was, as this may sound, it was 215 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 4: very conflicting and fucking annoying. I just got annoyed by 216 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 4: the whole process because I'm like, why the fuck are 217 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: you asking me? I don't care. You already know whatever 218 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 4: it is, you're gonna tell me anyway, so just go 219 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: ahead and tell me and do we could talk about 220 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: it right there? Or if my scols are high and 221 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: you think it's a mother fucking problem, you know, because 222 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 4: you have some people, they'll praise themselves and shit like that, 223 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 4: and people are like, you do women, reality is this, Well, 224 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: then don't fucking ask me. Just go ahead and do 225 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 4: the normal process of a review. And then they was like, well, 226 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 4: write a few sentences. Who gives a fuck, maybe that's 227 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 4: just me. I don't care. 228 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like it either. 229 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: It also is like an assumption that you're a very 230 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: confident person or very fair minded person or whatever. 231 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: And I'm like, what are you gonna do if. 232 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: Somebody just kind of as humble, like I don't like, 233 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 2: maybe I don't feel And maybe that's the thing we 234 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: all need to get used to singing our own praises. 235 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: But I think, especially when you talk about black people 236 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: and women and marginalized people within corporate America, you know, 237 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: there's a tendency for those people not to ask for 238 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: the raise, those people not to apply for the job. 239 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: And so when I'm doing a self evaluation, I bet 240 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: you that takes part. Part of that comes out of 241 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: my own evaluation of myself while I'm downplaying my own 242 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: self in a way where you know, somebody else that 243 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: had a different experience in life would just be like, 244 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: I'm fucking great, I'm doing a great job. 245 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: I'm here. 246 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: I deserve all the raises, all the money, all of this, right. 247 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: But you know, if I were to take the approach 248 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: that I take normally, where I'm like, I'm doing a 249 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: good job, but I'm kind of hard on myself, so 250 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: maybe I could do a little bit better. That may 251 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: come off to look like a negative. It gives them 252 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: areas to kind of quote unquote attack. 253 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 4: Me, right, And that was my whole point. It's like, 254 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 4: you know, I'm going through the learning process, and yeah, 255 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: I was like, you know, basically, I was like, I'm 256 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 4: learning the whole but every question was like I'm motherfucking learning, 257 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: I'm learning, I'm growing, I'm evolving. That was every answer. 258 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 2: Well, the other thing for me, though, is how much 259 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: trust do you have in the people that's gonna do 260 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: your evaluation. That's true too, you know, so if you 261 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: feel like they're gonna be fair, they're not gonna try 262 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: to tear you down, then that's a different experience than 263 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: if you feel like you're walking into a battle zone 264 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: and I gotta come in. 265 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: Ready to defend every single word I said. 266 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: I think at your current job, the way they treat you, 267 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 2: you probably can be more confident and more outspoken about 268 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: your progress. 269 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: I think I know for a fucking fact, you're a 270 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: very hard worker. 271 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: Like I know, you're also very stringent about, you know, 272 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: making sure you're on time, making sure you're taking your 273 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: your if it's say, thirty minutes for a break you're taking, 274 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: you know, thirty minutes if it's you know. So, I 275 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: think there's a lot of stuff that you don't give 276 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: yourself credit for. And that's the only reason I wouldn't 277 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: want to see a self evaluation situation, because I know 278 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: you'll downplay yourself and try to be humble or try 279 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: to trade on the areas that you're not up the park, 280 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: and I think you will technically be making a mistake 281 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: doing that. I think you should lean into the fact 282 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: that you're a good worker, the fact that you picked 283 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: up stuff so quickly at your job, the fact that 284 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: you know it didn't that you came into the U. 285 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: You were telling me about the idea you had in 286 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: a meeting that where they were like, that's a great idea, 287 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: we haven't tried that before. So you need to be 288 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: concentrating on that stuff. Don't talk yourself out of I mean, 289 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: maybe it's too late, maybe turned it in, but for 290 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: next year, then don't talk yourself out of praising yourself. 291 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: Don't talk yourself out of because you're getting frustrated at 292 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: the evaluation. 293 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: And but but no, that you shouldn't be frustrated at 294 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: the valuation. 295 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: It bothered me terribly. 296 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: I don't know why you're only frustrated the evaluation because 297 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: you're frustrated because you're hard on yourself. 298 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: That's you shouldn't. 299 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: You shouldn't that this is actually good because what they're 300 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: saying is, what's your opinion of yourself? Give yourself some credit? 301 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: You know, like before you can say this job beat 302 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: it out of me, or they came in and did 303 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: blah blah blah, you should give yourself some credit. You know, 304 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: have a healthy view of yourself. Like there's nothing wrong 305 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,239 Speaker 2: with having self confidence. 306 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: You know. 307 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: It's like when we talk about the podcast. You know, 308 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: there's times where it's like, oh, we're just doing this 309 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: little thing. But at the same time, it's like, yo, 310 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: we me and you have been successful with everything we 311 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: were attempted at this podcast. Now maybe we could argue 312 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: we could have attempted more stuff and possibly failed at 313 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: it or something, we could have did some shit before 314 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: we was ready. But the point is, like, if someone 315 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: wanted to say, like how great our podcast was, I 316 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't be like, man, shut the fuck up, don't talk 317 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: about this show. 318 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: It's terrible. You know, Like maybe in a joke or something. 319 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: But they're honestly asking you your opinion in a way 320 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: where I know, working jobs where the company was trying 321 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: to cut me down, they never asked me shit. 322 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: They just did a meaning and then told me I 323 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: wasn't shit right, And. 324 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: That's what I'm accustomed to. So I'm like the fuck 325 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: because it threw me off because I was like why. 326 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: I guess my mom like, why do you want? You've already, 327 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: like I said, And it's one of those things, like 328 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: I said, when you're at at a job that isn't great, 329 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: you pick up bad behavior and it's hard. It's like 330 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: a beast of relationship. It's hard to break a bad 331 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: behavior and you go into a new relationship assuming that 332 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 4: they're gonna do the same thing, even though these jobs 333 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 4: are completely different. But in my mind, I'm like, the 334 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 4: fuck you wasting my time for you already know what 335 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 4: you're gonna say. Why are you asking me how I 336 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 4: feel when it's not gonna matter anyway. 337 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: But it is gonna matter how you feel. And you 338 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: may point them to something that they don't know. You know, 339 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: you may point them to something that it's like, oh, 340 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: we didn't even realize she was the person that made 341 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: up this idea, or we didn't realize that. You know, 342 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: she's she was the one on the board that didn't 343 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: make any mistakes, or you know, she was the one 344 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: that made us realize that it's not about volume of 345 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: numbers but accuracy of reports. Like, yeah, it could be 346 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: a lot of shit, and you're cutting yourself short. And 347 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: this is honestly what we want from jobs to ask 348 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: us to check in with us, how do I feel 349 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: about the shit? This is also your chance to evaluate them, 350 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: to be like, this is what y'all can improve on. Yeah, 351 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: you know, maybe I don't feel like the directions I'm 352 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: getting inferent management is necessarily consistent, or you know, maybe 353 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: my boss. 354 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 3: Comes down in there a little too. 355 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is what's happened, but you know, like, hey, 356 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: maybe my boss is a little bit too aggressive and 357 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: I don't do well with a lot of pressure on me, 358 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: you know, So this is a chance for you to 359 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: be heard. You should use that chance to be heard. 360 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: And if everything's going great, you should say that as well. 361 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: But don't don't feel frustrated, like, you know, I'll give 362 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: you an example. 363 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: So at my with my therapist, she said. 364 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 2: One of the things she gave me homework like exercises, 365 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 2: and so one of the exercises is, I want you 366 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: to make a list of thirty positive things about yourself. 367 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: And so she told me, well, she that's what I said. 368 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 2: And when she told me that, I like kind of 369 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: made a face and roll my eyes or whatever. And 370 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: she was like thirty. She was like, what are you 371 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: making a face for? And I was like, because thirty 372 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: is a lot. And she was like, but is it 373 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: really a lot? If you think about all the areas 374 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: of your life, you know, and you can ask your friends, 375 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: you ask your family and stuff like positive things. But 376 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: you know, if you think about yourself as a basketball player, 377 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 2: a podcaster, a husband, a brother, a son, a friend, 378 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: are there not thirty things? 379 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: You know? But it's just easy to say that about 380 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: yourself because we're. 381 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 2: Just so used to shitting on ourselves and being like, 382 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to think anything good about ourselves myself. 383 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to be positive about myself. I'm not 384 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: supposed to have positive attributes. I'm not supposed to reinforce 385 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: this or else. I won't be humble, I won't be whatever. 386 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: But like, sometimes you have to break that shit and 387 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: walk around with some you know, like break that mental 388 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 2: cycle of just knocking yourself down. And so you know, 389 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 2: I'm working on that list because it's you know, at 390 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 2: least that's what it made me realize, is like how 391 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: often am I coming down on myself with either guilt 392 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: or or kind of like punishing myself for like I 393 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: didn't have this goal, I didn't live up to this idea. 394 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: Other people have this thing. 395 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: And I'm not able to do that, And I'm really 396 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: punishing myself for something that as if I'm a bad 397 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: person in my brain, I'm overthinking something, you know, I'm 398 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 2: crushing itself or whatever. 399 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 3: So you know, I think that's. 400 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: What that that's what that was a test of is 401 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: to you for when to hey self evaluate yourself and 402 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: you start thinking about the negatives instead of all the positives. 403 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: You know, like we really should be sitting around like, oh, 404 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked. You know, I've been doing a 405 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: good fucking job, you know what I mean. A lot 406 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: of people would have took this job and fucked it 407 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: up already, and here I am, you know, doing a 408 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: good job and getting better every day, Like I think, 409 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: So I think that's a positive thing. But it's all 410 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: about reframing our mentality. 411 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 4: Correct. 412 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry. One more thing. I'm sorry. 413 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: I know I've been talking, but because I struggle from 414 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: it too. So I'm not telling you this from a 415 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: place of judgment. I'm saying I do it too, but 416 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: I'm trying to unwork that shit myself. 417 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 4: Right, and I think for me, And the funny part 418 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 4: is that for me, there's certain things that I know 419 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 4: that I know that I know, and when I know 420 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 4: it and I'm confident in it, I can go and 421 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 4: I can tell you all about it, how I'm great 422 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: at it. That la la la la la la la. 423 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 4: But it's just something about the learning curve and not 424 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 4: putting the pieces together and getting frustrated because I get 425 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 4: to a roadblock and I don't know where to go 426 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 4: and I don't know what questions to ask and and 427 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: and frustration sets in because and it's unfair of myself 428 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 4: to us too. I'm like, well, why don't I know it? 429 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 4: I should know this. I don't know how to answers, 430 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 4: but I'm not going to know how to answers because 431 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 4: you have to grow to the point that you know 432 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 4: the answers and this trial and error and doing things 433 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 4: over and over again, like that's part of the process. 434 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: But when you're in an environment where you just knew 435 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 4: everything about the job in and out, where you could 436 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 4: somebody actually question, you could go to the system even 437 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: with a piece. You didn't even have to have the 438 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 4: whole thing. Somebody give your something. You go, no, no, okay, 439 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 4: here this is this is you answer. So I'm used 440 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 4: to that. I'm going from that to okay, now what 441 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 4: screen is that again? Where am I going to get? 442 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, this is frustrating. 443 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: But you didn't know everything at the old job. No, 444 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: you didn't know everything. You learned everything. Yes, so you 445 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: didn't know everything when you first started that job. You 446 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: was looking for the spring. How well, so you can't 447 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 2: be hard on yourself. It's a new job, you know. 448 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 2: I don't even think it's been a year. No, So 449 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: it's like you don't really even have the right to 450 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 2: be hard on yourself yet you haven't been there a year. 451 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 3: They don't have a right to be hard on you. 452 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: Oh they're not, you know, so like, don't be hard 453 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: on yourself, then they're gonna be you know, don't and 454 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: this is I'm not saying, you know, because I know you, 455 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: So it's not like I'm saying, don't be hard on 456 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: yourself and then all of a sudden, you're gonna start 457 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: coming into work at eleven or whenever, you know, leaving 458 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: whenever you feel like it, Like I know that, this 459 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: just means you're already working hard, don't I'm just saying, 460 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: don't discount that, right right. 461 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 4: And it's funny though, because because I have been trained 462 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 4: to kind of I've been trained to have good communication 463 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 4: with management, like I've been trained with you do certain 464 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 4: things you just automatically managers and team leads know just 465 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: in case something happened, they filled in and you know, 466 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 4: my team leading she was like, I am so glad 467 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 4: that you tell us stuff and you kind of loop 468 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 4: us in. She'sid, because a lot of people don't, and 469 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 4: then things happen and we don't know what's going on. 470 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 4: We have to ax all these questions. And she was like, 471 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: you actually in foremost up front. I was like, yeah, 472 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 4: that's because that's who I am. And I feel like 473 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 4: the better the line of communication can be, the easier 474 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 4: it is for everybody to do their job. The easy 475 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: it is for you to actually lead me in the 476 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 4: right direction, because that's your job, and it's easier for 477 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: you because you aware. If somebody breaks the chain of 478 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 4: command and goes above you and it starts trickling down, 479 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 4: you could be like, well, I know when I'm aware, 480 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 4: because I try to think of things in a bigger 481 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: picture of the and just my one piece. I've always 482 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: been like this, you know, how does what I do 483 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 4: affect other things around me? And because of that, I'm 484 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 4: a very unique employee because most people don't give a fuck. 485 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 4: Just tell me what I need to do. That's what 486 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do. When you ain't gonna get nothing more. 487 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 4: Who gives a fuck? How my eras affect other groups 488 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: and how other people aerrs affect me. But I tried 489 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: to think above that, So yeah, I actually do need 490 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 4: to get better, and I should feel better talking to 491 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 4: you because I was a little stressed out trying to 492 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 4: feel the paperwork out, because I was like, what is 493 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 4: happening here? 494 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: And you guys already turned it in? Is it something? 495 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: Is it done already or what? Yeah? 496 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 4: I turned it in, which which is which is fine, 497 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 4: you know, but I did kind of edit it where 498 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 4: I actually started answering truthfully and things like that, like okay, 499 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 4: like yes I am good in this area, or you know, 500 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: I may need to improve in this particular area, but 501 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: I am growing. Like I started actually reading what that 502 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 4: what it was, and just actually answering. 503 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: You're hard worker, so being honest, you know, that's that 504 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: that should work for you too, but also just for 505 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: I guess everybody else out here listening. 506 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: Lie, Just go ahead, lie, because let's be real, other 507 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: motherfuckers are lying. 508 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: They are much more fucking successful than us because they 509 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: just fucking say with the right thing, and it's even 510 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: if they can't prove it, even if it's not right. 511 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: So just go out, you know, just lie. I'm fucking awesome. 512 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 3: I'm great. 513 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: I never fuck up, because apparently that's what the fucking 514 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: the world is doing, right, you know, like I don't 515 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: know why we always got to get second fucking shrift 516 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: or whatever, because you know, we're over here down in 517 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: ourselves and trying to keep ourselves humble and shit, that's 518 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 2: the look. That's one of the problems with women, that's 519 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 2: one of the problems with people of color in these 520 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: environments is we're always trying to find some way to 521 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: humble ourselves or to have some radical honesty that pushes 522 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: us back down. 523 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: Fuck that shit, lie say you great. 524 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: Make them come in that room and tell you you 525 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: not great, you know, because you are doing great, and 526 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: often you'll be surprised at how often they agree. 527 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 4: So you know, that's what I never really thought out 528 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 4: of it like that. But you know, and like I said, 529 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 4: this is kind of in my own head because I'm 530 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 4: the type of person where I'm like, hey, just be truthful, 531 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: because I'm like, hey, I will be the one that 532 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 4: fucking investigate and be like, well, bitch, you're lyons And 533 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, nope, here is so can't nobody come back 534 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 4: and and second against me, and and and and and 535 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 4: be like I caught you. You know, Like I said, 536 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: it's because I'm in my own mind, because this is 537 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 4: how white people cannot have degrees and not be qualified 538 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 4: for shit and get fucking jobs. And I'm like, well, bitch, 539 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 4: I actually got degrees, and I'm telling the truth, you know. 540 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 4: But I know that they don't search me. They don't 541 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: because if they did, if that scrutinized me the same 542 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: way they scrutinized you, wouldn't get away with the bullshit 543 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 4: that you do. What's the other The other one is restaurants. 544 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 4: Going to restaurants two things I've realized. And I don't 545 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 4: know if if it's oney things where I'm in my 546 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 4: own head, there's nothing worse than you go to a 547 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 4: restaurant that's empty, and I'm talking about mother fucking empty, 548 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 4: and the hosts want to sit you beside the one 549 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 4: table in the goddamn restaurant. Bitch, it's fifty five tables. 550 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: I don't want to be smacked right beside the other 551 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 4: people looking in their face, handing their conversations. Can you plan? 552 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 4: And sometimes I be like can we move over here? 553 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 4: They look at me like I'm like, I'm insane. I'm like, 554 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: ain't nobody in this bitch? Why is it? I feel 555 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: like the same way I feel like that, But what 556 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 4: like I feel like about the elliptical and at the 557 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 4: gym it is forty five running machines? Why are you 558 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 4: beside me? Sometimes I actually will move because I'm like, 559 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 4: I don't understand this. I'm over here by myself for 560 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 4: a reason. Why are you beside me? And a lot 561 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 4: of hosters do that and I'm like, why do you 562 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 4: do this. Why you pop everybody in one section. I've 563 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 4: actually worked at restaurants. If nobody's in the restaurants, y'all 564 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 4: either rotating or or something like that, and nobody gonna 565 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: give a fuck if I'm ten tables away from this person. 566 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 4: I don't comprehend this. 567 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you on that. I know a lot 568 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 3: of people. 569 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: That's a big pet Peever there is coming in and 570 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: being sat right next to some some table or something. 571 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: It's not really mine, but I could see that, you know. 572 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: I like. 573 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: The thing for me that's funny is. 574 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: If if you were sitting at a table, or me 575 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 2: and you were sitting at a table, and then they 576 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: sat somebody next to us, and then they got up 577 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: and said they didn't want to sit there. I feel 578 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: like one of the first things we would think is 579 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: they don't want to sit next to black people. So 580 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: it's kind of it's kind of funny on the other shoe, 581 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: and you know what, on the other foot. 582 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 4: Of me in such situations, I don't think that I'm 583 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 4: thinking this person is like me, like you, you're cramming 584 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: me right directly besides somebody. 585 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: Why except that we went to that and you did 586 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 2: you did think them white people. 587 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: Is racist, and sometimes it is racism, right, There. 588 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: Was no way to know. 589 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: Maybe they just didn't want to be sat next to 590 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: another table that was occupied. 591 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 3: Care that's true, but you assumed they was in the 592 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: clan I saw it. 593 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: You assume the white people was there was making MAGA 594 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: great again. I don't know, it doesn't it's it's not 595 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: one of those things that bothers me. But at the 596 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: same time, like I don't. I'm very much a mind 597 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: my business type of person. And sometimes, honestly, when a 598 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: couple or some people group of people is talking loud 599 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: to sell at a restaurant, that's some of my favorite 600 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: eating is that's like entertainment. 601 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 3: Now I'm like, and then, what did you just do? 602 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 4: Now we have heard some real good conversations. 603 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know, don't bother me as much. 604 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: You would think it would because I'm the introvert. But 605 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm to me's I'm more worried about the amount of 606 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: people in the restaurant because I'm thinking about the service. 607 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about waiters getting distracted. I'm thinking about that 608 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: kind of shit. 609 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: You know. 610 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: But if it's like a fairly almost empty restaurant and like, say, 611 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: I'm sitting at a bar and some motherfucker comes and 612 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: sits in the seat next to me. I'm always kind 613 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: of like, I don't know why this motherfucker sat here 614 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: in my in the back of my brain, so you know, 615 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: I like, I do get it. 616 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: You know, you're in a yurine on the dude. 617 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: Piss is in the one next seat, Like there's this 618 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: idea of like, but we had space and we're not 619 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: gonna use it, right. 620 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 4: We had space, motherfucker. 621 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: Why if I go to like a matinee movie. 622 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: I remember one time I was in the seat and 623 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: I bought this seat because it was like only two 624 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: seats in this area. I figured if I bought one, 625 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: no one's gonna want to sit next to me in 626 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: a fucking movie theater because there was tons of empty 627 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: seats all over the fucking theater. And this dude came 628 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: and sat right next to the right fucking next to me, 629 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: and I was like. 630 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 3: What the fuck is this? 631 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: Like the there's the unspoken rules of theatership means you 632 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: supposed to look at the app see that that seat 633 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: is occupied, and w would I sit next to it? 634 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: Right? 635 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: Let me go sit somewhere else. 636 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: Y'all know. The saddest thing though, when I bought my 637 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 3: tickets to seat. 638 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: The photograph, uh, and I bought our two tickets together, 639 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: almost all the other seats was one person by theirself, 640 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: And I was like, damn, this is a Valentine's Day 641 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: romance and my go ahead by theyself. They're not even 642 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: able to go on a date. Like I thought everything 643 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 2: was gonna be covered up. But I think we might 644 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: have been one of the only couples up in there. 645 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 4: I didn't know. I didn't think about that. 646 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: Well, black love to black love? What happened to black love? 647 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 4: And one more thing, And this is kind of a 648 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 4: restaurant related. I want restaurants to make their tables bigger 649 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 4: for parties of two, because for some reason, parties are two. 650 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 4: You get like the corner of a school desk, and 651 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 4: they expect you to actually put your drinks, your appetizer, 652 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 4: your plates, your civil ware, and your meal all on 653 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 4: the two by four platter. Please get us bigger tables 654 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: because they sit you in the smallest fucking corner. Sometimes 655 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 4: I'm I know, can I move there? And they look 656 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 4: at me like I'm crazy? And this is another reason 657 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 4: why I like to go to restaurants when they're not 658 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 4: as crowded, because then I can request that it's not 659 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 4: a problem, because sometimes oh we're pusy okay, and now 660 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: I'm in this small corner. And then on top of that, 661 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 4: some of the sometimes the one reason why I want 662 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: bigger tastes because restaurants are greedy for spade, they actually 663 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 4: cut tables smaller so they can fucking sit twenty people 664 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 4: in the congested area, and I'm like, motherfucker, if I 665 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 4: breathe or sneeze or move my elbow, I'm bumping into somebody, 666 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 4: Like we're too goddamn close. Yeah. 667 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: Oh, That's one thing I like about you when we 668 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: go out, is like you'll ask that question that I'm 669 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: I normally talk myself out of because. 670 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 4: It irritates me. I'm like, no, baby, can we say 671 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 4: somewhere else, like. 672 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: Not just talking about changing seats, but like, we went 673 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: somewhere where I really wanted some brunch. 674 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 3: Tacos for rrules. 675 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: And then they didn't give us the bunch menu and 676 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: I don't know that brunch hours, but I was like, damn, 677 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: I guess we missed brunch cause well maybe they don't 678 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: do brunch anymore, you know, like I was already giving 679 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: up on it, like, well, let me look at these 680 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: other tacos. And then Karen asked the dude and he 681 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I forgot to give you the bunch menu, 682 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 2: and then I got my brunch tacos. And you always 683 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: do tons of little stuff like that that I normally 684 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: don't do for myself. Even though asking the move tables 685 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: and shit, I normally be like, well, I'll just squeeze 686 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: everything into this two top and be fine. 687 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 4: Honey, I've become a straight out white woman. I'd be like, ma'am, no, ma'am, 688 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 4: I will not be no, this is what I'm not 689 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 4: going to do. 690 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: No. Yeah, So a lot of times, you know, that'll work. 691 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: I think. 692 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: The other thing is the reason that tutop doesn't necessarily 693 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: work for us is because we bring our tablets, you 694 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: know what I think. So we didn't bring our tablets, 695 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: we probably would be fine. And they just don't plan 696 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: for people to bring tablets because it's considered, you. 697 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 3: Know, kind of bad form. 698 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: These motherfuckers sitting at the table reading, but they don't 699 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: know we talk fifteen hours a fucking week every week and. 700 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 4: A lot of times our tablets depend on where we 701 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 4: go actually be the center of attention everybody. 702 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 3: Oh what you're reading? 703 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes most of the time I prefer them not 704 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: to do that, so most of the time. 705 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: They leave us alone. 706 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: But correct. 707 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: I just think it's kind of interesting because I think 708 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: no one really plans for that. When I go out 709 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: by myself and I get to see that too, top 710 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: is plenty of space because you know, I mean, I'm 711 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: still taking on more space than a normal person, but 712 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: you know, pull out my tablet and do some reading. 713 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: I wonder if that'll become a thing, though, Is electronic 714 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: devices get bigger and bigger, like spread more people have them, 715 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: if the size of a table might change, you know, 716 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: And actually I. 717 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 4: Hope so, just for the convenience, because, like I said, 718 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 4: in some places it's not a problem. Some places, the 719 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 4: two top is fine if the tables are cut larger, 720 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 4: and a lot of times instead of a two top 721 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 4: would just sit at a four top, which is fine too. 722 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 4: And I don't know, I think people just think about 723 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 4: the space and shit like that. I don't give a 724 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 4: fuck about the foxktop coming in. You can sit there 725 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 4: to someone. 726 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: The only thing that bothers me is when they when 727 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 2: you ask for the four top and then they act 728 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: like it's a fucking Orgeal I don't because I mean, 729 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: like I said, I've worked in the industry, right, it 730 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: can't be that big a deal. 731 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: It's not like I understand. 732 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: You know, you're trying to make sure that you know 733 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: you have space available in the case a party of 734 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: more people come. But like the difference between the two 735 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: and a four top, Come on, man, that's not that 736 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: that's not no deal breaking shit. And we tip like 737 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: it's a four top anyway, So just fucking let us 738 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 2: sit there. 739 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: We're gonna order mad food, gonna you know, have. 740 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: Get drinks and ship normally, so just leave us, you know, 741 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 2: let us have that four top. 742 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: Dolls. We're just trying to you know, two top is 743 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 3: two chairs at the table. 744 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 4: Four top is a table that fit that sits four people. 745 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, it's like, let us get that. 746 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 4: Let us get that four top off you on me, 747 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 4: like why you like, you ain't mister McDonald's. 748 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, it's not your money, you don't. 749 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 4: And because and one reason why I like to kind 750 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 4: of build a relationship with the restaurant after a while, 751 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 4: they're kind of damn, no, don't sit us at no 752 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 4: at no booth. Niggas love booths. Not niggas, but just 753 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 4: people love booths because the hostess the booth is like 754 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 4: the first place they PLoP you. I was like, oh, 755 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 4: booth must be really really popular with people because that's 756 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 4: where they try to put you. But when we go 757 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 4: to no places, they're just no, don't don't even look, no, 758 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 4: go to the table. 759 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah anymore. 760 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 4: Nope, that that's it. That because those was on my mind. 761 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 4: But I'm glad we talked about the evaluation thing because, 762 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 4: like I said, I think I was in my own 763 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 4: mind in the restaurant thing. I thought it was just 764 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 4: me was looking at the chat room as other people 765 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 4: that feel the same way I do. And yeah, in 766 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 4: certain situations, honey, I will white woman it up. I 767 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 4: know I don't want to sit to your Nope, can 768 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 4: you move us? And I'm like you, I've worked at rest, 769 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 4: we worked that restaurant before, So I don't give you 770 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 4: damn about you huffing and puffing. You not the stuff 771 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 4: you're not, especially if you the host is you're not 772 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 4: making the dime off of this baby. 773 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, the only issue I have with uh, with with 774 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff is you know, like I'll say 775 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: it too top like I'm okay with it, but you know, 776 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: I just need my space, That's all right. That's some 777 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: tos do have a little bit bigger tables and right, 778 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: But it's all about the space part of it. 779 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 3: That's what bothers me. I didn't have one random thought. 780 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: It's really you know, maybe be slightly a spoiler for 781 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: for the photograph, but I'm just gonna have to say it. 782 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna spoil a movie for anybody, 783 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: but I think it's actually gonna help people, okay, but 784 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: they don't get killed in the hell of gunfire from 785 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: police at the end. 786 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: So just gonna let you guys know that. 787 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not gonna tell you how it ends 788 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 2: or anything more than that other than if you know. 789 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: So some people will probably decide not to see the 790 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: film based on that, because you know, we need black 791 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: trauma in all of our art or else it's not good. 792 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 2: But if you're looking for an untraumatic movie that I 793 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: enjoyed it, now some of you will. 794 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: Think it's boring, I'm sure, because. 795 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: You know y'all don't experience y'all, never experienced positive, healthy relationships. 796 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 2: So some of you guys will consider it boring because 797 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 2: no one's getting like beaten and shit. But for the 798 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: rest of us, we finally got our movie, y'all. 799 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 3: We finally got. 800 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 2: That one we was waiting on, the one that everybody 801 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 2: been talking about, the one they won't you know, Black 802 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 2: Twitter will still some way to hate it, you know, 803 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 2: because that's just what black Twitter does. 804 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 4: But yeah, just want to let you guys know that 805 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 4: if you're you know, if you if you're. 806 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: Looking for black people being killed the same way that 807 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 2: we watched them killed on Facebook and YouTube and on 808 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 2: the news all the goddamn motherfucking time, and you say, hey, 809 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 2: you know what, I need that in my fiction as well. Okay, 810 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want no escape from this, And 811 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 2: you know what, I wouldn't like it if they did 812 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 2: get away and was happy and lived in the end. 813 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: I need some death. Well, if you're coming for black 814 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 2: death in this one, this. 815 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 4: Is just gonna disappointed. 816 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: It's just not it's not gonna end that way. 817 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 4: It's not to move for you. Just let just hiss up. 818 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 4: This is not to move for you. 819 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 3: And I'll go ahead and tell y'all something else. 820 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: I'm gonna come out the photograph closet, okay, because a 821 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 2: lot I'm gonna come out of the dark the dark Room. 822 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 3: I guess. 823 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 2: I loved that movie, Like we already reviewed it. You know, 824 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 2: it's a file for me, Like I fucking loved that movie. 825 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 3: That is a movie that we need it. It was 826 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 3: right on time. 827 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 2: So I understand there's a lot of people going around 828 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: being like they didn't like it. There's a lot of 829 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 2: people saying it's boring. There's a lot of people talking 830 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 2: about there was no chemistry, which is a totally subjective 831 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 2: fucking thing. 832 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 3: They keep saying. 833 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 2: They keep saying these things and fucking like, I don't 834 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: know what you call it, like these declarative statements, as 835 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: if there's no need to debate it, like I have 836 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 2: said it is boring. 837 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 3: It's like, well, nigga, I just agree, Like what does 838 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 3: this mean? 839 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: You know, Like it's not like when someone shoots a 840 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 2: basketball shot and it goes in the rim and we 841 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 2: know if it went in or didn't. This is no 842 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 2: Some of us had no problems, and some people will 843 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: have problems. 844 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 3: That's fine. 845 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 2: I just like to speak up for the delegation of 846 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 2: people that fucking look that loved it, you. 847 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 4: Know, because I like it very loud. 848 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really fucking loved it, man. 849 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 2: And this kind of feels a little like the Harriet 850 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 2: shit now where I think we have gotten to this 851 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 2: point where people get so much attention from being negative 852 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 2: all the goddamn times that they really can't help themselves. 853 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I was about to do this article. 854 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 2: I'm about to do a different one. Uh, but they 855 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: really can't help themselves, and I think that's why we 856 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 2: end up, uh, in the situations we are where people 857 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 2: are just you know, always trying to find a way 858 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: to shit on something. 859 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 4: Because that's some people's brains. 860 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's a Let me see if 861 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 2: I can find did I not say this woman's article? 862 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 863 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 2: Uh, there's this article about the way that people use 864 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 2: Twitter and stuff and it was so good and it's 865 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 2: from this comedian. If you can't find it, I had 866 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: it on my Twitter. 867 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,959 Speaker 3: I'll see if I can find it, Okay, But yeah, 868 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 3: it was it was just that, like we're being rewarded 869 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 3: for the wrong shit. 870 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 4: I agree on some points of that, yes. 871 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 3: Like we're being rewarded for just being negative. 872 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 2: Like, you know, I think Harriet changed me with how 873 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 2: I even view people's movie ship now because. 874 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 3: It was a time when the only people that really 875 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 3: quote unquote trolled movies. 876 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 2: Were like those alright gamer gay type people, you know. 877 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 2: But after Harriet Man, I don't fuck with nobody online 878 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 2: when took on the movie. 879 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 4: Discussion, if y'all were lying about shit that didn't happen. 880 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were lying, they were twisting things, they were 881 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 2: you know, they were making shit up cause it was 882 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 2: about you know, how do I make this the worst. 883 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 3: Possible version of what I have a problem. 884 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 4: With, and that's what trends and so uh, you know, 885 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 4: I thought it was just so out of control and 886 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 4: uh for me, for me personally, it. 887 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: Was like, uh that that particular one because I saw 888 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 2: people that you know, relatively well known Twitter and Facebook 889 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 2: and all these people that you know, putting a reputation 890 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 2: on the line to show on this movie and it 891 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 2: made no sense, and having seen the movie, I was like, well, 892 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 2: this is a lie, you know. 893 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 4: And then Joker was another one where it was like 894 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 4: I saw the movie. 895 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 2: If you saw the movie, you know that it's not 896 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 2: about the things people are arguing about online, even green 897 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: Book to a certain extent, Like I think it maybe 898 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: it started with green Book. Actually for me was that 899 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 2: I saw that movie, it was like, it's okay, and 900 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 2: then when you go online it was supposedly the worst 901 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 2: fucking movie in the history of the world. And it's like, 902 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 2: that's not reasonable, that's not rational, that's that's not even true, 903 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: you know. And I think that's what what I got 904 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 2: from that situation, and I feel like that's where I 905 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 2: am with stuff like that now. So now when I 906 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 2: leave the theater, regardless of if people were clapping, crying, dancing, whatever, 907 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: I know, I'm gonna go online and everyone's gonna be 908 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 2: saying it was shitty or it was bad or be 909 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 2: upset about it. And I feel like that's that's such 910 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 2: a terrible place to be. 911 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's also pressure. A lot of a lot 912 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 4: of people have a pressure of I got to have 913 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 4: a hot take, I gotta be trending, I gotta be popular, 914 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 4: whatever it may be. I think that the thing that 915 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 4: kind of changed me and I noticed my time I 916 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 4: was twelve years of slave. Uh, because with that movie, 917 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 4: Negroes act like you just was not shipped. If you 918 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 4: didn't go watch that goddamn movie. And I'm like, oh, 919 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 4: y'all need to calm down. Y'all have got to calm 920 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 4: the fuck down. 921 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was a that was a big one too, 922 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 2: because because you did have people that essentially use the 923 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 2: pressure of social media to ship on other people. 924 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 4: Right, And that's that's the whole point. How you weren't 925 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 4: ship And I think for me to be told because 926 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 4: of how I am, I was like, oh, oh that's where, 927 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 4: well then I will never watch it and I have 928 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 4: not watched it and don't plan on it because because 929 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 4: that was my fuck you to them. 930 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, like I said, I can I 931 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 2: totally can understand just you know, based off of that. 932 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 3: Man, I think it was called something comedy civil war. 933 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm finding such a hard time 934 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 2: finding this article, but but. 935 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was but that but yeah, it was. 936 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 2: It is that kind of thing where uh, that was 937 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 2: a great example of people using something that you know 938 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 2: should have been either you see this because you want to, 939 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 2: and you know, they could. 940 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 3: Have even walked out and said it was a good movie, 941 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 3: which is fine. 942 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 4: No, people watch it all the time. Like I didn't 943 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 4: have a problem with that. I just didn't like the 944 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 4: pressure of if you didn't watch this, so you didn't 945 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 4: enjoy this, you want ship and you're like, well, is 946 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 4: this what we're. 947 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 3: Doing now, y'all? Yeah, I remember that. I do remember that. 948 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 4: Like for me, that's what I personally seen that turning 949 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 4: and oh oh, so we're gonna start doing this with 950 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 4: all the movies now, right? 951 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 2: That was that was such a terrible That was such 952 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 2: a terrible time, man. And then also like people were 953 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,280 Speaker 2: also going and being. 954 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 4: Like I cried, Okay, I was so sad that I 955 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 4: cried in the theater. I beat myself with whips and chains. 956 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 3: Yes. 957 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 4: Their thing was if you didn't go through the traumatic 958 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 4: thing that I went through, if you didn't cry and 959 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 4: go through this life altering changing experience from watching this, 960 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 4: I will take your Nigro card. 961 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 3: What right? And uh yeah, So it was kind of 962 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 3: like that. Man. I hate that I missed this article 963 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 3: that I can't find remember who's no, I don't remember 964 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 3: her name. Ah, this sucks. 965 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 2: I thought I saved it, and clearly I didn't. I'll see, 966 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 2: I'll keep sucking for it, but I try to go 967 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 2: out for memory. 968 00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 3: Though. 969 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,240 Speaker 4: But okay, you said it was a comic. 970 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a comedian. 971 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 2: It was like the comedy Civil War. I searched for 972 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 2: it on Google. It's not coming up because it's all 973 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 2: this other shit that uh people, that people wrote about. 974 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: But the thing, the thing that I was gonna say wash. 975 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 2: The article talks about how social media kind of rewards, 976 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 2: especially Twitter, it rewards controversy. And so she talked about 977 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 2: how she used to do these long Twitter threads about 978 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 2: like comedians and you know, the comedy Civil Wars and this, 979 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,959 Speaker 2: you know, this comedian went on this show and said 980 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 2: this bad thing and this, you know, this thing was 981 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: fucked up, and so she would make these like long 982 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 2: Twitter threads and be like, you know, get a lot 983 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,919 Speaker 2: of retweets and get a lot of favorites and stuff. 984 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 2: Don't worry about looking for it, baby, Let's oh okay, 985 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 2: just try because you're not gonna find it. I can't 986 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 2: find it, and I'm the one who knows what it's about. 987 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 2: So don't don't worry about it. It's not something that's 988 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 2: gonna be on the first page of Google. 989 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 3: Okay. 990 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 2: But yeah, so she talks about how, you know, she 991 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 2: was able to like get these long viral threads and 992 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 2: stuff like that, and you know she would have it 993 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 2: ready to go like some pop off boom, But she's 994 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 2: a comedian, so she was like, I was actually becoming 995 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 2: more known for my Twitter threads and shit I said 996 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 2: on Twitter than my fucking comedy. And it was becoming 997 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 2: that thing where people go, this person's not funny. They 998 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 2: just you know, they just mad about everything else. 999 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 3: You know. The other thing too. 1000 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 2: Was, even if you're right or whatever, comedians are just 1001 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 2: as fucking petty and vindictive and gang up on people 1002 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 2: as much as any other social group. So now you're 1003 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 2: talking against the group, so you side with the audience. 1004 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 2: So you side with the think piece writers or whatever 1005 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 2: and say, hey, this comedian, Shane get List of somebody 1006 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 2: should have lost its snail job because what he said 1007 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 2: was fucked up and there was racist and you can't 1008 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 2: do da dada well comedians. That might cost you some gigs, 1009 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 2: you know, all of a sudden, somebody's like, you know what, man, 1010 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 2: I don't want you on my show. You went against 1011 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 2: the crew, you know, the thin blue line of comedy 1012 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 2: or whatever. 1013 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 3: So she was also losing shit there. 1014 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,720 Speaker 2: The other thing she realized, too was she wasn't getting 1015 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 2: the benefit of having these viral Twitter. 1016 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 4: Threads and is that wine put in there? 1017 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 2: Uh, Sarah Shaffer, Yeah, I think that was it. I 1018 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 2: don't know how you found that one, good call, but yeah. 1019 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 2: So she also talked about how like she wasn't really 1020 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 2: seeing the benefits of her threads going viral, and shit, 1021 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 2: it's not getting her jobs, it's not getting her more 1022 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 2: opportunities to do stand up or anything like that. 1023 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 3: What it was turned into was essentially promotion for Twitter. 1024 00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 4: Correct. 1025 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 2: Twitter is the one that gets the actual interaction from 1026 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 2: you doing it. Okay, so it's the Shaffer Dispatch. Sarah 1027 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 2: Shaffer is her name. I'll try to remember the link 1028 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 2: this in the show notes because I really think this, 1029 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 2: Like I obviously think this is like an amazing piece 1030 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 2: she wrote, so I'm gonna go ahead and read it. 1031 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 2: Last summer, I was sitting at the bar before a 1032 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 2: comedy show where my friend looked up from his phone 1033 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 2: and asked me what I thought about the latest comedy 1034 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 2: drama happening online. The New York comedian was getting death 1035 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 2: threats for a joke she made. Oh no, I said, 1036 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 2: what happened? I could feel a tiny spike in my 1037 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 2: heart rate which is not unusual for someone like me. 1038 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 2: Most comedians I know are enthralled by comedy drama. We 1039 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 2: are drawn to it like real housewives or drawn to 1040 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 2: yachts field with women they despise. Before my friend could 1041 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 2: describe the incident, his eyebrow I was lifted. 1042 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 3: Oh you don't know, he said. 1043 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 2: I figured you would have already posted one of your 1044 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 2: famous Sarah Shaffer threads about it, famous Sarah Shaffer threads. 1045 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 3: I wanted to crawl into the bar and die. 1046 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 2: The phrase stun because just a few weeks prior, I 1047 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 2: got into a major Twitter fight with a handful of 1048 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,919 Speaker 2: comedians and their fandoms. It was over one of those 1049 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 2: famous Sarah Shaffer threads in which I had proclaimed that 1050 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 2: booking Luis c K was boring. This had anger some 1051 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 2: comedians and their loyal fans and resulted in a week 1052 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 2: of Tim's harassment, threats, and embarrassment, and it also kicked 1053 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 2: off one of the worst anxiety attacks in my life. 1054 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 2: I don't do those anymore, I said to my friend. 1055 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 2: The words came out bitter and quick. It was not 1056 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 2: some grand declaration, but instead of hurried defense against what 1057 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 2: I already fear was becoming my reputation that I was 1058 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 2: a comedian not known for being funny. 1059 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 3: But instead for arguing. 1060 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,919 Speaker 2: Once I said it out loud, though, that I did 1061 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 2: grow into a conviction. Later that night, I decided I 1062 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,439 Speaker 2: was really arguing online about comedy. Now there's the thing. 1063 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 2: I went through this, and I you know, I still 1064 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 2: kind of go through this. I don't contribute as much 1065 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 2: online as I used to because I really. 1066 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 3: Did have pedic attacks. 1067 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 2: I really did have I really did have nightmares and shit, 1068 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 2: I couldn't leave, you know, people threatening you, People constantly 1069 00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 2: want to argue with you, like your brain needs are also, 1070 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 2: but it does, it needs a time to turn off. 1071 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 2: And then also it is empty interaction. I have thirty 1072 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,479 Speaker 2: thousand something Twitter followers. I don't have thirty thousand something 1073 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 2: people that listen to my podcast. So I'm out there 1074 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 2: just giving shit for free for people that don't have 1075 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 2: any investment in me beyond follower don't follow on Twitter, 1076 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 2: you know, for a large part. 1077 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 3: And then there's our fans on there too. But our 1078 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 3: fans listen to this. 1079 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 2: If they really want to hear what we have to say, 1080 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 2: they want to hear the full context. They want to 1081 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 2: let us be able to elaborate for an hour or 1082 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 2: two on some topic that this is where they come correct. 1083 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 3: Correct. 1084 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 4: And also I think for me, I'm at a I'm 1085 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 4: actually at a lot better place than I was at 1086 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 4: one period of time. And like I said, I had 1087 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 4: to come to the conclusion about the Brendie Burghs and 1088 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 4: shit like that, because like watching you go through a 1089 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 4: lot of those things and shit like that, Like for me, 1090 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 4: I I was I could have burnt the building down 1091 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 4: just you know, because I was like, oh, motherfuckers, you're 1092 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,439 Speaker 4: not gonna do is this? You know, just speaking from 1093 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 4: my perspective because I was like, Okay, this is ridiculous. 1094 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you but see, even with that, I put 1095 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 2: that on me because you're not the one interacting with 1096 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 2: them online. 1097 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 3: That's me correct. 1098 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,720 Speaker 2: So if I wouldn't have been doing it, you wouldn't 1099 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 2: have got stressed out. So that's just another negative result 1100 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,240 Speaker 2: of consequence of me going out there and putting myself 1101 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 2: out there in that way. 1102 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 3: And god damn it, I picked a terrible time to quit. 1103 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 2: So many juicy comedy debates away to me, SNL drama, 1104 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 2: famous comedians complaining about being canceled and standing up specials 1105 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,439 Speaker 2: they got paid tens of millions to make comedians saying 1106 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 2: dumb shit weekly. A journalist even declared that there was 1107 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 2: a comedy civil war happening and I couldn't comment on 1108 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 2: any of it. At times, the urge to join the 1109 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 2: battle was so intense that I would type in the 1110 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 2: race tweets over and over, practically sweating as I resisted 1111 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,240 Speaker 2: the temptation to engage once again. 1112 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 3: But each time, within twenty four hours after. 1113 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 2: The debate had died down, I would feel like I 1114 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 2: had just climbed a mountain. 1115 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 3: I had done it. 1116 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 2: I never once have regretted not commenting on a comedy debate. 1117 00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 2: The enormous relieve I've felt has been undeniable. No more 1118 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 2: obsessing over what I had posted, no more reading cruel 1119 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 2: words meant to intimidate and hurt me, no more panicking 1120 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 2: over what it might do to my career, what my 1121 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 2: peers might think of me, and if. 1122 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 3: I'm on the right side or the wrong side. 1123 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 2: Yes, because the other unspoken part of all this shit, 1124 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 2: the people that are out there consistently being in the 1125 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 2: muck and the mire of social media. They're doing it 1126 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 2: for the social part of social media. It's about it's 1127 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 2: honestly about not fitting not wanting to not fit in. 1128 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 2: So what you find is, if I'm constantly talking about 1129 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 2: hot topics, I create a little group of people around 1130 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,880 Speaker 2: me that's constantly talking about these hot topics. And the 1131 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 2: unspoken consequence of that is if you stop talking about it, 1132 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 2: they're not your friends anymore. 1133 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:43,760 Speaker 4: Nope, they're gonna disappear. 1134 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 2: Not just that, but then they pressure you to talk 1135 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 2: about every fucking thing they're talking about. So if they 1136 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 2: woke up this morning and they decided that Whole Foods 1137 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 2: is evil, if you're just like on the beach chilling, 1138 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 2: they're like, what the fuck you're responsible to give us 1139 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 2: your time and talk about this. So I guess you 1140 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 2: don't care about people at home foods or whatever, right, And. 1141 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,839 Speaker 4: You're like, well, bitch, I got an off switch. 1142 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 3: Right or just life? 1143 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 2: Everyone has life, Everyone deserves a break, everyone deserves off days. 1144 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 2: And also sometimes you just don't care. Sometimes sometimes you 1145 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,720 Speaker 2: just don't give a fuck. Sometimes it's not your table, 1146 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 2: right right, not my table, not my bi able to 1147 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 2: pay and so. But but but the social pressure of it, 1148 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 2: it's like, no, you have to comment, and if you 1149 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 2: don't comment, you don't care, and then it's throwing at 1150 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 2: my Martin. 1151 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 4: Luther King, uh speech, at your ass. 1152 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 2: At you like you the white and progressive or white 1153 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,439 Speaker 2: moderate or whatever, and dare you right? But what they're 1154 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 2: really saying, if you get down, deep down to what 1155 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:48,720 Speaker 2: they're really saying, come interact with me, right, I'm lonely. 1156 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about this thing alone. I 1157 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 2: need you to have my quote unquote back. I need 1158 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 2: you to care about this thing. And what emotions do 1159 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 2: we normally see expressed in those situations? Give emotions? It's 1160 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 2: mostly arguing, it's mostly complaining, it's mostly sad, depressing shit. 1161 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 2: Very rarely is it something joyous and fun, you know, 1162 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,359 Speaker 2: like shit don't get retweeted. Sometimes it is, but in 1163 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 2: those circles that that shit doesn't necessarily play and fun 1164 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 2: in its own way is always at someone's expense. I 1165 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 2: always tell people that with the show, every joke is 1166 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 2: at somebody's expense. 1167 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 3: It is some people just are more comfortable. 1168 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,800 Speaker 2: With the joke being at certain people's expense than others, 1169 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 2: But every joke is. And what people are really able 1170 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 2: to do online is dissect these things that are men 1171 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 2: in jest positive comments. They're able to spin them around 1172 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 2: in their brain till they can find the negative part 1173 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,359 Speaker 2: of it correct. So you can say something like, man, 1174 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 2: I really enjoy going to the movies with my wife, 1175 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 2: and ninety nine percent of regular motherfucking people will be like, Okay, 1176 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 2: that's cool, Glad you enjoyed it, Glad you had a 1177 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 2: good time. 1178 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 3: But on social media, we. 1179 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 2: Gotta find that angle to someone's gon, find an angle 1180 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 2: to be like, well, it's nice that you even have 1181 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 2: money to go to the movies. 1182 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 4: I'm sitting at home. Why eating eating popcorn? Have you 1183 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 4: got foody or refigerator? 1184 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 3: Right? Whatever? Right, It's always something that they'll find the angle. 1185 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:18,360 Speaker 2: You know, I don't appreciate your sis heteronormative relationship, showing 1186 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 2: it all in our face or whatever. And so not 1187 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,919 Speaker 2: everybody feels that way, but once you get once one 1188 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 2: person makes that point. Now you're living in a world 1189 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 2: where you and this one person are fucking having a 1190 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 2: conversation together. Now you and this you didn't plan on 1191 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 2: this person that you will walk smooth by on the street. 1192 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 2: Come on, is now your new obsession or now the 1193 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 2: thing that you like? Why would this work? 1194 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 3: Say this to me? 1195 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 2: Like, now you're in your that person and you are 1196 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 2: now tandem and that's not a good place to be in. 1197 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:46,359 Speaker 3: Uh. 1198 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 2: And once you step back from this hard not to 1199 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 2: see the con I started noticing the pattern. One comedian 1200 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 2: doesn't say something to initially sturb a reaction to the 1201 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 2: woke mob quote unquote responds accordingly. Three the comedian now 1202 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 2: elevates and drop attention to his negative feedback, usually by 1203 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 2: quote tweeting, so all the followers see it more easily, 1204 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,879 Speaker 2: and they add something along the lines and see they're 1205 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 2: trying to ruin comedy or cancel culture is destroying us 1206 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,760 Speaker 2: or getter boys for the comedian fans are now activating 1207 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,439 Speaker 2: the war zone. 1208 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 3: Five other comedians joining. 1209 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 2: The fight off the issue in black and white decrees 1210 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 2: demanding failty, like if you don't love comedian's name, you 1211 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 2: hate comedy, or any comedian who is not defending comedian's 1212 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 2: name is not a real comedian. 1213 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 3: Now there's a threat of career consequence. 1214 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 2: As our business is so tightly linked to social status, 1215 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 2: outcasting is a weapon. Comedian's letter will six In the aftermath. 1216 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,760 Speaker 2: The original offending comedian may or may not issue an apology, 1217 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 2: but either way they have quote unquote one they fulfill 1218 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 2: their own prophecy united they're fandom behind them, and continued 1219 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 2: on with the narrative that fosters more loyalty, more subscriptions 1220 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 2: are more tickets sold. It's easy to apply this pattern 1221 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 2: to other areas of public discourse as well, especially the politics. 1222 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 2: The arguments are often the same, always the same, and 1223 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,439 Speaker 2: with the same points, volley back and forth again and again, 1224 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 2: with no minds actually being changed, and the whole thing, 1225 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:00,720 Speaker 2: like a k. 1226 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 3: Booking, has become woefully predictable. 1227 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 2: I realized that by fighting these types of fights online, 1228 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 2: I was just playing the part they wrote for me, 1229 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 2: and for what I used to tell myself, I was 1230 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,479 Speaker 2: standing for something, I thought. I was using my voice 1231 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 2: to speak up for myself, for women, for comedy, and 1232 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 2: even for free speech. After all, free speech is not 1233 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 2: something reserved just for edgy comedians. It should be something 1234 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 2: we all enjoyed also. And here's the insitious part. I've 1235 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 2: come to unconsciously believe that getting into these types of 1236 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 2: online arguments were actually beneficial for my career. My famous 1237 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 2: quote unquote threads would indeed give me a lot of retweets. 1238 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 3: I thought for a time. 1239 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 2: This is because these were of a better quality than 1240 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 2: my other type of tweets. The positive feedback could only 1241 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 2: mean I was doing something right. Other stuff like jokes 1242 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 2: about mundane topics or anything nuance, would get less attention. 1243 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 2: I figured that was because those tweets were not as 1244 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 2: quote unquote good. But after years of trying to use 1245 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 2: the platform to build more followers and experimenting with how 1246 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 2: I used it, it became clear. 1247 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 3: The platform was using me. 1248 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 2: It's very obvious to me now that Twitter is intentionally 1249 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 2: built to reward big opinions and piping hot takes. The 1250 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 2: reason these types of posts are rewarded is because all 1251 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 2: of nothing, all or nothing inflammatory statements invite the most engagement, 1252 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 2: and there is nothing the social media corporations want more 1253 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 2: than for you to stay engaged. An employee at Facebook 1254 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 2: once told me that the algorithm awards native video and 1255 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 2: pictures and birds anything that would encourage someone to click 1256 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 2: to an outside link and leave their site, right. 1257 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 4: And I know for Jake talk about Jail, that's one 1258 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 4: reason why Jail left, be cause Jael's like, I'm actually 1259 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 4: doing good work making these videos. But but y'all stop 1260 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 4: the shit just naturally growing and shit like that, like 1261 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 4: if it ain't they shit they like nowp yeah, and you. 1262 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 3: See comedians having to do all these tricks. Right. 1263 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 2: So let's say you have a YouTube video you worked 1264 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 2: super hard on and you would like to get the 1265 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 2: ad revenue from. 1266 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 3: YouTube by people clicking your link. 1267 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 2: What you have to do is like post something like, hey, 1268 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 2: I just got married, okay for real, though I didn't 1269 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 2: just get married, but this will make the algorithm my post. 1270 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 3: Hey in the comments, I have a link to my comments. 1271 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 2: To my newest web series. Can y'all click on it 1272 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 2: and give me some likes? And blah blah blah that. So, like, 1273 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 2: you have to trick the system. But what is it 1274 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 2: telling you? It's telling you that Facebook wants you to 1275 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 2: put the shit on their platform so no one leaves 1276 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 2: their site. And also because they can put ads on it, right, 1277 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 2: so you know, you see the Facebook videos now people 1278 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 2: scroll those fucking things infinity and it's all you know 1279 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 2: every you know, here's an ad for ten seconds. 1280 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 3: Now we'll finish your video, you know. 1281 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 4: Which is the dumbest shit ever. 1282 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 2: But yes, these companies spend a lot of money figuring 1283 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 2: out new ways to manipulate our brains to take us hostage. 1284 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 3: If you're not sure what I mean? Answer this? Which 1285 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,439 Speaker 3: statement below is going to get more engagement? One. 1286 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 2: I don't like the new Beyonce song, but I can 1287 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 2: totally respect someone it does. After all, taste the music 1288 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 2: is subjective. Or two Beyonce is trash. Two right, obviously 1289 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 2: number two. For the record, I do not endorsee the 1290 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 2: statement one or two because Beyonce is perfect. 1291 00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 3: It's not just that. 1292 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 2: The opinion in the statement too is very strong, but 1293 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 2: it's also that the opinion is lacking detail. The flat 1294 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 2: of the statement, the more easily it will anger and 1295 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 2: or provoke. It is now open to all kinds of interpretation, 1296 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 2: i e. More engagement. On top of all this, the 1297 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 2: human being behind the statement now lacks detail as well 1298 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 2: and becomes a symbol the one side of the argument, 1299 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 2: which is much easier to attack and threaten. This is 1300 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 2: all by design, and it creates the perfect conditions for 1301 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 2: bad actors, whether far or domestic, to take advantage of 1302 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 2: us along the way. Yes, you see this all the 1303 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 2: time on Twitter. Some person that doesn't even have a 1304 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 2: big following or nobody, they're just they're normally a nobody. 1305 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 2: They say something really fucked up, right it? You know, 1306 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 2: normally it happens on Sunday morning. 1307 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 4: Somebody said something by Sunday morning, it's born before football is, 1308 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 4: particularly when there's nothing else happening, something that ninety nine 1309 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 4: point nine percent of us would be like, that's reprehensible. 1310 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 3: You guys picked the thing. I don't know. 1311 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes rapists, okay or whatever. Right, something that 1312 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 2: we all are going to be like justifiably outraged about. Right, 1313 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 2: But they're saying it in relative obscurity. Right, there's no 1314 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 2: like they got seven followers or some shit, they got 1315 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 2: one hundred followers. 1316 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,479 Speaker 3: No one fucking follows them back. You don't. 1317 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 2: They're just some fucking assholever account if they're even real, right, 1318 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 2: And what happens somebody quotes tweet said, this is disgusting, 1319 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 2: watch out for these. 1320 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 3: Type of men. 1321 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 2: This is the you know, And now all of a sudden, 1322 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 2: this person's tweet it does now go viral. It actually 1323 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 2: is getting me attention and stuff. And what is it 1324 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 2: have you doing? It has you making threats as you responded, 1325 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:32,919 Speaker 2: It has you tweeting about him. 1326 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 3: And the whole point is Twitter. 1327 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 2: Is getting all that interaction, right, Like, there's not a 1328 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 2: positive interaction. Your mood is probably ruined now the people 1329 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,919 Speaker 2: who see it, their mood is ruined now that. 1330 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 3: No one's you know. 1331 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 2: But it gives us all a person to judge and 1332 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 2: to come down on. And so you end up with 1333 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 2: this situation. 1334 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 4: Right, And that's why people go, why don't they band 1335 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 4: Donald Trump? This is why. 1336 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1337 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 2: When I was traveling the UK a few years ago, 1338 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 2: I came across some displaying some exam It showed a 1339 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 2: map of Great Britain and discussed the length of its coastline. 1340 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 2: From far away, if you were to measure the coastline 1341 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 2: with a large ruler, it would be much shorter than 1342 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 2: if you were to get closer and measure it with 1343 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 2: a number of smaller rulers and add up those limps, 1344 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 2: and she includes a picture and it's essentially trying to 1345 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 2: measure something with just like So, let's say you took 1346 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 2: a map, right, and on the map there's a country, 1347 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,680 Speaker 2: and I say, okay, tell me how to measure the 1348 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 2: length of this country. 1349 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 3: Well, if you took a. 1350 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 2: Big ruler and you just put it on there, you're 1351 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 2: not really gonna be able to get a true measurement 1352 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 2: because it's not gonna take into account all of the 1353 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 2: smaller angles and curves of the country, Like, unless the 1354 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 2: country is a fucking square, it's gonna you know, there's 1355 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,120 Speaker 2: a bunch of like cold like fragments and all this different. 1356 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 3: Right, So if you measure it from. 1357 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 2: Far away, it's actually gonna be a more flat, declarative situation. 1358 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 3: You're just three inches or whatever. 1359 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,439 Speaker 2: But if you go in there with a smaller ruler 1360 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 2: and you measure it, then it's gonna be a little 1361 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 2: bit longer because you're now taking into account some of 1362 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 2: the nooks and crannies. And if you measure it with 1363 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 2: an even. 1364 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 4: Smaller ruler, it's gonna be even longer because you're gonna 1365 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 4: get into all of the every single nook and cranny, 1366 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 4: every single measurable because now you're you're actually taking into 1367 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 4: the totality of it. 1368 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 3: But guess what, that one takes. 1369 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 4: A long time. 1370 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:25,439 Speaker 3: It does. 1371 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 2: That last one is not that's Beyonce is trash, Like 1372 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 2: I mean, like that first one is Beyonce is trash 1373 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 2: three inches. That last one is you know, more nuanced, 1374 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 2: and nobody give a fuck about that one. 1375 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 3: That may take you some time to. 1376 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 4: Observe details about that time details. 1377 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was first observed by mathematician Lewis fried Richardson, 1378 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 2: and it's known as the coastal paradox, and it's an 1379 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 2: entry point to understand fractals. If you keep zooming in 1380 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 2: a coastline is infinite. Human beings, I think are also infinite. 1381 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 2: But online we are being measured by impractical and awkwardly 1382 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 2: broad measuring sticks. Do we support this candidate of that one? 1383 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 2: Do we tell woke jokes or edgie jokes? Do we 1384 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,080 Speaker 2: love free speech? 1385 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 3: Do we hate it? Do you wash your legs? Are 1386 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 3: you a filthy pig? The skiss that part? Pick one. 1387 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,160 Speaker 2: Every day there's a new way for your whole self 1388 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 2: to become reduced to merely a side in the argument. 1389 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 3: Online we become shapeless blogs. Yep. 1390 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 2: Like that's one of the reasons I haven't really talked 1391 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 2: about or promoted any one of these Democratic primary candidates. 1392 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 4: My thing is just meant to vote. 1393 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 2: I'm the only person online that really meant it when 1394 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 2: they said it doesn't matter. I'm just voting for whoever 1395 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 2: comes out, and I'm sticking to it. 1396 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 3: I'm not changing me either. 1397 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,920 Speaker 2: No matter of arguments is gonna make me change my mind. 1398 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,439 Speaker 4: Nothing, No, don't give a goddamn if it's the dog. 1399 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I meant it and I'm sticking to it, and 1400 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 2: it's actually giving me a lot of peace, you know, 1401 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 2: like I mean I have. I'll see criticisms or jokes 1402 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 2: about any of them and laugh or correct you, tweet 1403 01:04:58,880 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 2: or whatever. 1404 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 3: I don't care. I just I really don't. 1405 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 4: Care, and it's made it so much more peaceful. 1406 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 2: It's not important for any of these motherfuckers to agree 1407 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 2: with me. It's not important for any of these people 1408 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 2: to like me. It's not important for anybody to uh, 1409 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 2: you know, engage. There's no thing I want to engage 1410 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 2: with to change your mind. Fuck it, I don't care. 1411 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 2: I said what I said in person. The nooks and 1412 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 2: crannies of our personalities are more visible. The crows feet 1413 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 2: around our eyes emerge when we are just kidding. Our 1414 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 2: voices waver ever so slightly when we aren't sure if 1415 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,080 Speaker 2: we're what we're saying is factual or not. There are 1416 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 2: the pauses, the sides of tension and the breaking of 1417 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 2: the tension, the possibility of being punched for what you say, 1418 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 2: the possibility of being hugged, as well, the infinite ways 1419 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 2: you can simultaneously like and loathe someone one. Real life 1420 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 2: interactions can be uncomfortable and messy, which is why I 1421 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 2: think social media is so a learned At times, it 1422 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 2: can help simplify the world, and you can feel safe 1423 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 2: and righteous as a faceless member of the A side, 1424 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 2: and then of an A side in the argument. That is, 1425 01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 2: until you're standing alone at that as the target of 1426 01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 2: the side, and you're now the symbol for what they fear. 1427 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 2: Hate mustar feed. After being told last summer over one 1428 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,360 Speaker 2: hundred times that I was too ugly to be sexually assaulted, 1429 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 2: I had to ask myself, what am I accomplishing here? 1430 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,919 Speaker 2: Nothing right, nothing except in riching people who are best 1431 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 2: at using me, or worse, straight up hate my guts. Ultimately, 1432 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 2: Twitter does not give me a place to shout. It 1433 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 2: gives me a place to take my voice, to make 1434 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 2: my voice small. I still use it for throwaway thoughts 1435 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 2: and promotion, but if you want to know how I really. 1436 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 3: Feel about something, you need to seek me out elsewhere. 1437 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 2: And if we meet in person, I'm happy to deliver 1438 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,400 Speaker 2: one of my favorites, Sarah Shaffer threads, and I promise. 1439 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 3: It will be infinite. 1440 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, I love this like I thought it was 1441 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 2: a great piece. And like I said, I just feel 1442 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 2: like that's like, if I could have read it last year. 1443 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,439 Speaker 2: She just wrote it last month. But if I could 1444 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 2: have if she wrote it last year, I would have 1445 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,960 Speaker 2: fucking loved it. Read it last year, two years ago, 1446 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 2: three years ago, because I felt like that's what I 1447 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:58,280 Speaker 2: was kind of feeding into we all, do you know it? 1448 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 2: And it also like the other part of it that 1449 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 2: she didn't really talk about. You started surrounding yourself with 1450 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 2: those people too, and so now you're part of this 1451 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,160 Speaker 2: fucking collective of people that's just always perpetually angry or 1452 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 2: wanting you to be angry or starting some angry shit, right, 1453 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 2: you know. 1454 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 4: So it's like I started five come come, come flame 1455 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 4: the fire with me, right, don't let me burn by myself. Basically, 1456 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 4: that's what they're saying. 1457 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 2: All right, now we can get into some other stuff. 1458 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 2: But I just thought that was interesting. McClatchy, I think 1459 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 2: that's right. Publisher of dozens of US newspapers filed for bankruptcy. 1460 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 3: Oh uh, yeah, they file for bankruptcy protection. 1461 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,200 Speaker 2: The company said that it will continue to run normally 1462 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 2: as it pursues approval of its restructuring. Prime playing under 1463 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 2: Chapter eleven bankruptcy protection. They published the Miami Herald, the 1464 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 2: Kansas City Star, and dozens of newspapers around the country. 1465 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 2: Wow Yeah, Like for some of them, these were some 1466 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 2: of the largest newspapers in the town. The publisher's thirty 1467 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 2: local newsrooms will continue to operate as usual while they 1468 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 2: reorganized under chapter Chapter eleven bankruptcy protection. 1469 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,720 Speaker 3: The company origins. 1470 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,560 Speaker 2: Day back to eighteen fifty seven when it first again 1471 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 2: publishing a four page paper in Sacramento, California, following the 1472 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 2: Californian Goal Rush. 1473 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,200 Speaker 3: That paper became the Sacramento b Wow. 1474 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:26,640 Speaker 4: And also, I think two and technology is forcing a 1475 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,800 Speaker 4: lot of people to adjusting change, and I think with 1476 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 4: newspaper like physical reading, they were really slow to adjust 1477 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 4: to digital. They adjusted, but it's like a catch twenty two. 1478 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,680 Speaker 4: It's like people won't shit for free, you know, they 1479 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,559 Speaker 4: don't want to pay for it. And then you actually 1480 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 4: are providing a service, but you got employees that you 1481 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 4: have to pay, so you literally can't do it for free. 1482 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,679 Speaker 4: And it's like it's hard to find that balance because 1483 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 4: some people actually do pay for these digital services, but 1484 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 4: it took a lot of them a while to become digital, 1485 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 4: which I think was the down with the downfall slow 1486 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 4: to change. Also, is it catch twenty two because with 1487 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,040 Speaker 4: the loss of money, you lose positions, y'all know, I 1488 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,759 Speaker 4: joke about it, but you lose editors. So now instead 1489 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,559 Speaker 4: of having somebody proof read every fucking thing, here's the 1490 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,640 Speaker 4: long game, here's the past word, here's somebody that that 1491 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 4: would do the shit for free and just post it 1492 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 4: on our site. That's why you have misspelled and run 1493 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,800 Speaker 4: on sentences and all as other bullshit because they're like, well, 1494 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 4: you're gonna get half passed because everybody wants shit for 1495 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:33,719 Speaker 4: free and it just can't be free. 1496 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's wow because it's moved all the way 1497 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 2: up to change. You've been making that joke for like 1498 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 2: ten years, but like as of the last probably four 1499 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,679 Speaker 2: or five years, the lack of editors and the lack 1500 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 2: of like standards has been apparent, Like watching like the 1501 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,800 Speaker 2: Washington Posts have editorials that are like, you know. 1502 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 3: Blatantly ridiculous. 1503 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 2: You know, like no one looked at this, no one thought, 1504 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,640 Speaker 2: you know, psychology today having to retract shit. You know, 1505 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,839 Speaker 2: it's like because no, you can just literally sit upload 1506 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 2: that upload it, like medium dot com. 1507 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:13,959 Speaker 4: Right, and that is a motherfucking problem. You need checks 1508 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 4: and balances, like you actually need checks and balances, and 1509 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,800 Speaker 4: people don't want to. Uh. Nobody wants to do this 1510 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,200 Speaker 4: until you get sued or until it's so egregious, until 1511 01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 4: you got to apologize. Now you got to be like, well, 1512 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 4: if you use it this person, well, bitch, they put 1513 01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 4: it on your goddamn site, So that meant there should 1514 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,439 Speaker 4: have been some form of checks and balance. 1515 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, and seeing like the typos and all. 1516 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 4: That stuff, Grandma's spelling, because that's the thing when people 1517 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,920 Speaker 4: are writing a lot of times, even some of some 1518 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 4: of your best writers have spelling Nervero's mistakes and all 1519 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 4: this shit, And then it takes an editor to actually 1520 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 4: get it to a place where you can read it 1521 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,639 Speaker 4: in a book and it makes sense. Editors they read 1522 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 4: the shit and they go, this is stupid. 1523 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 3: Redo it. 1524 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 4: They read it, they go, okay, you know this is 1525 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:00,640 Speaker 4: too much. Take this away, and then they give it 1526 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,800 Speaker 4: back to you again. The editors challenge the person to 1527 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 4: be a better writer, and people don't want to. They 1528 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,640 Speaker 4: don't want to do that. Working part of becoming stronger 1529 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 4: and better writer and challenging yourself and critical thinking and. 1530 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:15,840 Speaker 3: Shit like that. They don't. They don't. 1531 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 2: It's not that, Karen, you're looking at it from the 1532 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,479 Speaker 2: writer perspective, But that's not That part doesn't matter because 1533 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 2: if I hire you and I have an editor, it 1534 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what the fuck you want out of it, 1535 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 2: You're gonna do. 1536 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 3: It because it's part of job. Correct. 1537 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying the company don't hire the editor because they 1538 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 2: can't afford it. 1539 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 3: Correct, And you know. 1540 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,519 Speaker 2: They're in a fucked up position because like the now, 1541 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,639 Speaker 2: the wave is all the people in writers' rooms and shit, 1542 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,200 Speaker 2: all the you know, journalists and shit. They now want 1543 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,599 Speaker 2: to unionize, like all these online companies and shit, even them, 1544 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 2: and the way that the money is set up, it 1545 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 2: doesn't look like a structure that can really hold up 1546 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,720 Speaker 2: to having unionized labor and all the. 1547 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 3: Attributes that come along with that. Shit. It doesn't like 1548 01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 3: anyone's really thought this thing through. 1549 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 2: And the amount of work and quality of work that 1550 01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,120 Speaker 2: people will want to see costs a lot of money. 1551 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,439 Speaker 2: And not to mention like Miami Herald and shit, I 1552 01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,240 Speaker 2: think they were the people that broke the epstein'skindals. So 1553 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,519 Speaker 2: you're talking about journalists and people that do research, like 1554 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 2: you got to pay them lots of money. 1555 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 3: Some of these stuff, some of the stuff takes years. 1556 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,679 Speaker 2: Some of these are real deep diees correct, and you're 1557 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 2: not gonna just recoup the money immediately or even maybe never. 1558 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 2: And as revenue continues to fall, like I think they 1559 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 2: said their fourth quarter revenue of one hundred and eighty 1560 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,760 Speaker 2: three point nine million are down fourteen percent from a 1561 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,600 Speaker 2: year earlier, and his twenty nineteen revenue is earticipated to 1562 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,599 Speaker 2: be down twelve percent from the previous year. So you're 1563 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 2: talking about, you know, a bit, that's a lot of 1564 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 2: money to lose. And while continuing to want to have 1565 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 2: like some standards of journalistic excellence and pay people what 1566 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:58,800 Speaker 2: they deserve, it's like we may be losing news in America. 1567 01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 2: Like like people talk about Fox News. Fox News makes 1568 01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:06,040 Speaker 2: money and it's not really news, it's propaganda. But if 1569 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:10,120 Speaker 2: it's profitable propaganda, people may like that more than the truth. 1570 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,479 Speaker 2: Because just like that last uh, that last thing I read, 1571 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,799 Speaker 2: people don't want the nuance. People want that hard fast 1572 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 2: heke Fox giving you that, Fox giving you the you know, 1573 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,680 Speaker 2: let's sum this up in thirty thirteen seconds. Okay, it's 1574 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,960 Speaker 2: all fake news. Trump is the best and fuck these libs. 1575 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:32,439 Speaker 2: And then if MSNBC, hey, man, it's gonna take a 1576 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,960 Speaker 2: minute to break down all the machanitions of this administration 1577 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 2: and they give you the ins and outs and you 1578 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,160 Speaker 2: can tell, like online, the liberal people and the fucking 1579 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,080 Speaker 2: conservative people don't have time for that shit and don't 1580 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:44,719 Speaker 2: like it. 1581 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 4: Right right, And the thing is the shit that y'all want, 1582 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,720 Speaker 4: don't want to spend money on it. This is the 1583 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 4: shit that you claim. Some of them claim they won't, 1584 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,680 Speaker 4: but you don't want to spend the money and you 1585 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 4: don't want to invest. Because as much as people can 1586 01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,679 Speaker 4: plain about TMZ breaking the Kobe Bryant's story, I'm gonna 1587 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,719 Speaker 4: tell y'all that's what the fuck people want it because 1588 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 4: they clicked and they looked and they consumed it and 1589 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,719 Speaker 4: they watched themselves in it. The TMZ is like, don't 1590 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,120 Speaker 4: give a fuck first, Who gives a fuck if you're 1591 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,400 Speaker 4: right or wrong? I am first, And you're putting pressure 1592 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 4: on stuff on other organizations. It's like, I don't care 1593 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 4: about being first. I want to be right. That shit 1594 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,880 Speaker 4: is getting pushed to the side because the thing is, 1595 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 4: when it comes to newspapers, I know a lot of 1596 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,680 Speaker 4: people don't want to hear this. Newspapers, particularly local newspapers, 1597 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,440 Speaker 4: they break the local stories of a lot of minorities, 1598 01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:39,120 Speaker 4: they break about housing crisis, they break about poverty. They're 1599 01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,599 Speaker 4: the one that break these stories to a national level. 1600 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 4: And if you start losing that, who's going to cover 1601 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,080 Speaker 4: these stories? Who's going to cover the corruption of the politicians? 1602 01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,360 Speaker 2: And Twitter and Facebook can't replace all that, right, because 1603 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:58,440 Speaker 2: you're talking about places that actually have no standards of ethics, 1604 01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,639 Speaker 2: no standards of wrong, no standards of research. People can 1605 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,840 Speaker 2: just say some shit and then people start running with it. 1606 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 2: And you know, because as much as we're like TMZ 1607 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,559 Speaker 2: reported the Kobe thing, Twitter killed Rick Fox within the 1608 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,080 Speaker 2: context of that story, you know, like people run and 1609 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 2: just go with anything, and. 1610 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:17,560 Speaker 3: You're supposed to, you know. 1611 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,400 Speaker 2: That's why one of those journalists got in trouble for saying, 1612 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 2: like all the Kobe's daughters were in there with them, 1613 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,120 Speaker 2: because they was like this, there should be standards, and 1614 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,639 Speaker 2: you have to get in trouble for doing this now, right, 1615 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:33,360 Speaker 2: you know, And so losing the place where you're supposed 1616 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:38,879 Speaker 2: to have the vetted, the vetted stories, the vetted facts 1617 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 2: and research is not good, and I don't know what 1618 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 2: you can really be done about it, because it will 1619 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:48,599 Speaker 2: require the entire country to reframe their frame of mind 1620 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:49,040 Speaker 2: when it. 1621 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 3: Comes to. 1622 01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 4: Like what kind of resources they want to consume. And 1623 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 4: I think the allure of that hot take, that fast clip, 1624 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:04,840 Speaker 4: that that that that headline summation is too strong for people. 1625 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,599 Speaker 2: I don't think they can break it. I don't think. 1626 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,800 Speaker 2: I think when people see a story and it's more 1627 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,120 Speaker 2: than a few paragraphs, they're like, fuck this story. I 1628 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,400 Speaker 2: don't I don't actually want to know all this when 1629 01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:17,720 Speaker 2: people hear uh, you know, people make people talk bad 1630 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,519 Speaker 2: about MSNBC, and I to me, MSNBC is a bet 1631 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 2: the closest thing to a good news channel of all 1632 01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,880 Speaker 2: the fucking shows, And even with that kind of stuff, 1633 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,639 Speaker 2: they still have fucked up shows. 1634 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,200 Speaker 3: They still have, you know. 1635 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,559 Speaker 4: I think Hanny is on there and shit, so they 1636 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,080 Speaker 4: still so even with that, they still buy into Well, 1637 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,880 Speaker 4: the thing that people will watch, the thing that we 1638 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 4: can get people to see the commercials on is this bullshit? 1639 01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:44,120 Speaker 3: Right? 1640 01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,160 Speaker 4: And it's not like you said, it's not a good 1641 01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,160 Speaker 4: thing to slowly watch something like this die. And it's 1642 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 4: one of those things where, uh, like I said, because 1643 01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 4: I'm an old woman, who, what, when, where? Why? And how? 1644 01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:01,840 Speaker 4: Like that's a journalist's job, like you ask all those questions. 1645 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:06,080 Speaker 4: And also for me, sometimes good, bad, or and different 1646 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,920 Speaker 4: no matter how you feel, when journalists are doing their job, 1647 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 4: they're gonna ask tough questions. They're gonna ask hard questions. 1648 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,560 Speaker 4: They're gonna ask questions you don't like, because that's the 1649 01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 4: mother fucking job. And so you can see people getting 1650 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,679 Speaker 4: mad and offended and upset when the journalist is doing 1651 01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 4: their job because if they're not doing their job, that 1652 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 4: means they're not informing you. Because truth be told, I'm 1653 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,200 Speaker 4: come to the cluse with a lot of people don't 1654 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 4: want to be informed. They got their opinion and they're 1655 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 4: gonna stick to their opinion. They don't want anything to 1656 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 4: shift a change or challenge them or make them think 1657 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:36,120 Speaker 4: or reevaluate. Why do I feel this way? This is 1658 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 4: why it's easy for when your faith get asks a question, 1659 01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,719 Speaker 4: no question about your faith get asks. Everybody just fucking 1660 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,920 Speaker 4: lose they god damn minds. Where I'm like, no part 1661 01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,360 Speaker 4: of journalism is asking these questions like because I want 1662 01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,640 Speaker 4: to know how this? Why? Why do you have this 1663 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,760 Speaker 4: person on the interview, And why do you have them 1664 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 4: sitting in front of you if you're not gonna ask 1665 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,759 Speaker 4: them questions? What the fucking point of the interview? 1666 01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, that's that's part of it too, 1667 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen with what. 1668 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:03,960 Speaker 2: It just makes you wonder because I don't know if 1669 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 2: they're cause cause you know, we all do it at 1670 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,040 Speaker 2: this point where it's like you click on the article, 1671 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 2: it's like you need to pay for this, No, you 1672 01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,639 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I don't know how they 1673 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,800 Speaker 2: make money, to be honest, and I don't know what 1674 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 2: helps them come back and we'll be doing this article. 1675 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 3: You know, we were reading something in a year like that. 1676 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,920 Speaker 2: Now they're out of business because I don't know how 1677 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,240 Speaker 2: you get that influx of money that you really need. 1678 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 4: Right because and some of them actually doing quote unquote 1679 01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,439 Speaker 4: better where they let you read a few for free, 1680 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 4: you know, and then something that's. 1681 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,360 Speaker 3: Not really doing better for them, that's not money. 1682 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,880 Speaker 4: For them, right, And then some of them are like, no, 1683 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,280 Speaker 4: you have to pay regardless, like if you want this, 1684 01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:40,800 Speaker 4: you have to pay, or they give you a piece 1685 01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 4: of it, and then they like you have to pay. 1686 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, fair fight. 1687 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,760 Speaker 2: Stacey Abrams Voting Rights Group has raised twenty million dollars 1688 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:48,519 Speaker 2: since its founding. 1689 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 4: She out here doing the motherfucking work. 1690 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,880 Speaker 2: Now, from my understanding online, five of that might be 1691 01:18:55,120 --> 01:19:00,160 Speaker 2: uh Bloomberg money. But as I told you got as 1692 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,599 Speaker 2: a mayor p I'll still don't understand these democrats. It's 1693 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 2: not taking this money, yep, Like uh Stacey Abrams seem 1694 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,599 Speaker 2: to be doing it the best way. 1695 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,040 Speaker 3: I'm taking your money, and no, I'm not doing your 1696 01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:10,559 Speaker 3: dirty work. 1697 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,160 Speaker 2: That's what the fuck I would do. I don't know 1698 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,360 Speaker 2: why people keep thinking this. I don't, y'all, let Bernie 1699 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,840 Speaker 2: food you. Bernie will take Bernie gonna fuck around, take 1700 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,559 Speaker 2: some of that money, and then it's people gonna. 1701 01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 3: Make a defense for it, because that's what the fuck 1702 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:22,439 Speaker 3: they do. 1703 01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,680 Speaker 4: Right, Because you need money for these fucking campaigns. 1704 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all gotta stop buying it to this bullshit from 1705 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 2: these like five people on the right, like I mean 1706 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,080 Speaker 2: on the left. Like if you take the money, if 1707 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,680 Speaker 2: I don't blame Stacey Abrams, And honestly, it's gonna take 1708 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,679 Speaker 2: every single dollar to make sure people get a fair 1709 01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,720 Speaker 2: election because voter suppression, to me is the number one 1710 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 2: issue coming into twenty twenty not getting Trump out of office, 1711 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,120 Speaker 2: not who the Democratic candidate is. 1712 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,280 Speaker 3: Even it's can you vote? 1713 01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,120 Speaker 4: Can you mother fucking vote? 1714 01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,200 Speaker 2: Everybody talking all this shit, Can you fucking vote everything? 1715 01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,360 Speaker 4: Are you getting perged illegally? 1716 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,400 Speaker 2: None of this shit matters if you go up to 1717 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 2: the fucking thing and they're like, oh, yeah, we wiped 1718 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,760 Speaker 2: you off the district role voter rolls because you know, 1719 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,960 Speaker 2: you haven't voted in three years and we did a sweep. 1720 01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,720 Speaker 2: So once selected your name out of a hat and said, 1721 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:17,559 Speaker 2: not this person. Nah, you got a space in your 1722 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,799 Speaker 2: name and where it's supposed to be a comma. 1723 01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 3: Uh So we. 1724 01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,400 Speaker 4: Can't and the system is not compatible. 1725 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,360 Speaker 2: If it doesn't, if it doesn't line up with your 1726 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,160 Speaker 2: driver's license, we can't let you vote. 1727 01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all better watch out, man. This is what the 1728 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 3: ship we need to be doing. Check your registration if 1729 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,320 Speaker 3: you listening to this. Uh. 1730 01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 2: San Francisco District Attorney ends use of money Bell new 1731 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:44,960 Speaker 2: elected Progressive chess up voting Phil Fulfill. One of his 1732 01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:49,599 Speaker 2: major campaign promises eliminating prosecutors use prosecutor's use of cash 1733 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,960 Speaker 2: Bell in all criminal cases. Good, yeah, I know the 1734 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 2: local news can't wait to start blaming some crime on 1735 01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:55,960 Speaker 2: this motherfucker. 1736 01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 4: Good good, good good. This is what they do, just 1737 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,040 Speaker 4: like to mister Spann, and he was talking about, you know, 1738 01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 4: because they do marijuana up there, you know, they could smoke. 1739 01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,240 Speaker 4: And he was talking about the police was coming out 1740 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,800 Speaker 4: talking about this a fucking the crime rate increase. He 1741 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,559 Speaker 4: was like, the fucking know it. Didn't like y'all telling 1742 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:15,559 Speaker 4: lies because all all of a sudden the person didn't 1743 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,360 Speaker 4: know that I was getting drugs from I'm gonna get 1744 01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,000 Speaker 4: violent all of a sudden. No, this is stupid, right, 1745 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 4: You know how smoking weed makes you want to go 1746 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:23,280 Speaker 4: out and do some crimes? 1747 01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:24,120 Speaker 3: Right? 1748 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,240 Speaker 4: No, who said that. 1749 01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,840 Speaker 3: Shoplifting cheetos aside? 1750 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:29,519 Speaker 4: Right? 1751 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,479 Speaker 3: Uh. San Francisco's news District Attorney Chester. 1752 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 2: Bowl then officially into his office's use of money balling 1753 01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:39,160 Speaker 2: for all criminal cases. Prosecutors at the San Francisco District 1754 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,720 Speaker 2: Attorney's Office will no longer ask for cash bell as 1755 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,080 Speaker 2: a condition for pre trial detention under a new policy 1756 01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,120 Speaker 2: of now Wednesday. Well, you know what, he should run 1757 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:51,000 Speaker 2: for president because he's white, and so this will be 1758 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:55,280 Speaker 2: considered a positive and no one will look into anything 1759 01:21:55,439 --> 01:22:00,719 Speaker 2: negative shout to Amen Clover shar aka the club trip Okay. 1760 01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,760 Speaker 3: The District Attorney's office will utilize. 1761 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,599 Speaker 2: The city's existing risk assessment to would use the subjective 1762 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,840 Speaker 2: data to determine if people pose a serious threat to 1763 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:13,200 Speaker 2: public safety, in which cases these can be detained leading 1764 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 2: up to their trial, regardless of their wealth. According to 1765 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 2: the press release for the DA's office, prosecutors can still 1766 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,280 Speaker 2: seek to have defends held in detention before trial in 1767 01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,280 Speaker 2: cases serious feelings about violent acts or sexual assaults. 1768 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:28,960 Speaker 3: For years, I've been fighting to end. 1769 01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:32,439 Speaker 2: This discriminatory and unsafe approach to pre trial detention. From 1770 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,439 Speaker 2: this point for pretrial attention will be based on public safety, 1771 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,640 Speaker 2: not on wealth. That's how it should be. That's how 1772 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,280 Speaker 2: I was probably ridden and designed until people start using as. 1773 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:41,920 Speaker 3: A debtor's prison. 1774 01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:42,799 Speaker 4: Right. 1775 01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:47,599 Speaker 2: So anyway, I thought that was some good news. It's 1776 01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:52,320 Speaker 2: also just wild to me that, Like it's wild to 1777 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:58,480 Speaker 2: me because this kind of thing is something that prosecutors 1778 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,840 Speaker 2: can do. People say like there's no good prosecutors, and shit, 1779 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:04,479 Speaker 2: that's not true. 1780 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:05,920 Speaker 4: It is not true. 1781 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,320 Speaker 2: Like there's good people in all different kinds of positions, 1782 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,320 Speaker 2: and they may not be enough to overturn the entire 1783 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:15,080 Speaker 2: system on themselves. But the idea that there's no goodness 1784 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,880 Speaker 2: that can come of people in powerful positions that can. 1785 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,480 Speaker 4: Help like not ridiculous. 1786 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 2: There's limits to what you can do. There's still the 1787 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,880 Speaker 2: ostices of the job. And honestly, I don't know what 1788 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:28,599 Speaker 2: world do you think we're going to live in where 1789 01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,200 Speaker 2: we have a criminal justice that doesn't have prosecutors like 1790 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,960 Speaker 2: like some people do do the crimes, y'all. You know 1791 01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 2: it'd be but like I said, I'm not gonna go 1792 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,080 Speaker 2: on to a long rant, but it just it's it's 1793 01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:46,120 Speaker 2: just funny to your boy. Police investigate female substitute teacher 1794 01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,200 Speaker 2: accused of giving lap dances the fourth graders. 1795 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:53,000 Speaker 3: Oh, word, word. You know how it is, man, You 1796 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:53,479 Speaker 3: come in to. 1797 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,559 Speaker 4: The fourth grade, you have a long day ahead of 1798 01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 4: you and need to wind out some steam drinking that 1799 01:23:59,400 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 4: chocolate milk? 1800 01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,800 Speaker 2: Did you drinking all that chocolate milk? You know, I 1801 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,000 Speaker 2: don't blame them. 1802 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,600 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes in fourth grade could be stressful, so stressful. 1803 01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,880 Speaker 2: You know, I know I've been stressed out in fourth 1804 01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 2: grade before. He was sitting in class. 1805 01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 3: And uh, you know, working on. 1806 01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:21,040 Speaker 2: Your multiplication tables or something like that, and you know, 1807 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,760 Speaker 2: looking at your teacher being like, man, what are we 1808 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:25,120 Speaker 2: gonna do? 1809 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:26,160 Speaker 3: A wind? 1810 01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,000 Speaker 4: Why did it get dark in the classroom? What's what's 1811 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:39,240 Speaker 4: from y'all? Oh shit, it's fuckling in the here. The 1812 01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:45,360 Speaker 4: ladies and gentlemen coming to the flow, coming to the flow. 1813 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,480 Speaker 3: What it is, missus Jenkins. 1814 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 4: Your math, social studies, and history teacher. 1815 01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,719 Speaker 3: It's time to do some multi location with them dollars. 1816 01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:00,800 Speaker 3: Let go for it. 1817 01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 4: Oh one plus one, y'all? What is that equal to it? 1818 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:08,799 Speaker 4: These todaies? 1819 01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:13,520 Speaker 3: Hey? Uh yeah? 1820 01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:18,160 Speaker 5: So that happens of child abuse involving a substitute teacher. Now, 1821 01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,000 Speaker 5: we got the chance to speak with one mother who 1822 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,880 Speaker 5: says her ten year old daughter was in a fourth 1823 01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:26,120 Speaker 5: grade classroom on Tuesday when school officials say the female 1824 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:30,880 Speaker 5: substitute teacher was removed because of inappropriate behavior with students. 1825 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,200 Speaker 5: This mother says that behavior included asking her daughter and 1826 01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,280 Speaker 5: other children to identify body parts. 1827 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,000 Speaker 1: She supposedly kissed. 1828 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:41,880 Speaker 4: A child or two. 1829 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,439 Speaker 1: It was like she was playing with their head and 1830 01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:49,400 Speaker 1: getting trying to get them to stay different things that 1831 01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,560 Speaker 1: were inappropriate. 1832 01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:52,920 Speaker 3: Them. 1833 01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,760 Speaker 2: Kid is gonna grow up and be some freaks. That's 1834 01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:59,679 Speaker 2: how it happens. Now they're gonna be curious forever. 1835 01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:01,960 Speaker 4: Fuck the kids up. 1836 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:02,400 Speaker 3: No. 1837 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,120 Speaker 5: Now, the parent that you just heard from contacted Child 1838 01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:08,720 Speaker 5: Protective Services and she says the substitute also grabbed her 1839 01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,839 Speaker 5: daughter when the child refused to move her chair. Police, 1840 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 5: who are not releasing details, say they learned of the 1841 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:19,400 Speaker 5: incident when another parent drove to Wilkins Precinct to follow report. 1842 01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,280 Speaker 3: School officials say, like all. 1843 01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:26,559 Speaker 5: Employees, substitute teachers are subject to fingerprinting and background checks. Meantime, 1844 01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:30,080 Speaker 5: police say, so far, no criminal charges have been filed 1845 01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:35,120 Speaker 5: in this case. We'll lie this morning in Hellthorpe. 1846 01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:39,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were saying that the like she took her 1847 01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,400 Speaker 2: fingernails and like poked the under arm of one child 1848 01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:43,439 Speaker 2: to get her to move a seat. 1849 01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:45,320 Speaker 4: What mm hmm. 1850 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,240 Speaker 2: It says she kissed one of the kids on the 1851 01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,960 Speaker 2: cheek and she would like pull out their chair and 1852 01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,920 Speaker 2: do like a lap dance on the kid and then. 1853 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,599 Speaker 3: Go to the next one. 1854 01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:01,960 Speaker 4: What yep, yep, this is not the way I wanted 1855 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:03,040 Speaker 4: to play Duck duck goose. 1856 01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what's gonna happen all? I mean, well, 1857 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,080 Speaker 2: she getting paid in lunch money? 1858 01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:07,800 Speaker 3: Like, how does she? 1859 01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:13,320 Speaker 4: No, ma'am, no, no, this is not music chairs. 1860 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 3: Like I want to know, like what do you do? 1861 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:18,000 Speaker 4: What? 1862 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:19,360 Speaker 3: What is you know? 1863 01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:19,640 Speaker 4: Like? 1864 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,400 Speaker 3: And what do you do when that when you get 1865 01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:23,840 Speaker 3: that call from the school, like. 1866 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,560 Speaker 2: This teacher is uh giving your kid a lapdand you 1867 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:28,800 Speaker 2: gotta talk to your kid? 1868 01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,599 Speaker 3: You know? Do you want to go talk to the teacher? 1869 01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:34,800 Speaker 4: Nah? I don't want to talk to the teacher. Because 1870 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,800 Speaker 4: I talked to the teacher. I might put some hands, 1871 01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:37,439 Speaker 4: so let me go on up. 1872 01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,000 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of uh I feel like 1873 01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:44,720 Speaker 2: a lot of the men are gonna talk to want 1874 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:45,599 Speaker 2: to talk to the teacher. 1875 01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to talk to her. You know it 1876 01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:49,280 Speaker 3: closed the door? 1877 01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:52,040 Speaker 5: What you doing? 1878 01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,320 Speaker 4: Light on the night? Girl, ain't no kids here. You 1879 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,800 Speaker 4: can do you can do whatever you walk through with 1880 01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:58,799 Speaker 4: that number two pencil. 1881 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I went to the bank and got some singles. 1882 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,280 Speaker 4: Yes, I can make it rain on top of these thords. 1883 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,120 Speaker 2: It's just let's get a little bit of uh PTA 1884 01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:09,840 Speaker 2: going on up in here. 1885 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:16,880 Speaker 4: Let me go ahead and shut these curtains, close these blinds. Girls, 1886 01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,639 Speaker 4: they don't want to see the things I'm about to do. 1887 01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,680 Speaker 3: The dude, you girl, I want my jogging pants at 1888 01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,920 Speaker 3: this PTA meeting. You know what I'm saying. 1889 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 4: So you can see all the princes and now I'm 1890 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:29,120 Speaker 4: not talking about the PRINTO. 1891 01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:35,519 Speaker 3: All right, let's get it to our other stuff. 1892 01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:35,920 Speaker 4: Guys. 1893 01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:51,360 Speaker 3: Uh, let's do some fucking with black people. With those 1894 01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,679 Speaker 3: black people. Were just fucking with those blacks. 1895 01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,400 Speaker 4: We're just fucking with fucking the black people. 1896 01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,960 Speaker 2: That's right, guys, tyed to play the game we are 1897 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,000 Speaker 2: I hate to play. It's fucking with black people. 1898 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:03,920 Speaker 4: The game that goes all around of gold fire as 1899 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,880 Speaker 4: every articles make us feel fucked with them, sild points 1900 01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,519 Speaker 4: scores with zeal Ti one hundred and them was twenty 1901 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,640 Speaker 4: five staysy testings everybody. 1902 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,439 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the first one. Sixty four 1903 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:18,200 Speaker 2: white supremacists prosecuted by the DJ receive a total of 1904 01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,320 Speaker 2: eight hundred and twenty years in federal prison. 1905 01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:37,880 Speaker 4: Why are you buying? 1906 01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:40,719 Speaker 3: Why am I boy? 1907 01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,160 Speaker 4: Because I think I speak for all of us when 1908 01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:48,639 Speaker 4: I say, sis, you don't as a pretty abolitionist tup 1909 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:52,200 Speaker 4: lie don't want to see anyone ever go to prison 1910 01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,439 Speaker 4: for anything. I offt them up and wrap them in 1911 01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,880 Speaker 4: their flags, take them on in there, rep them in 1912 01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,000 Speaker 4: their flags, and let them free. 1913 01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,719 Speaker 2: Do you know the kind of inhumane things that happen 1914 01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,439 Speaker 2: to people in prison care. I don't want to see 1915 01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:11,439 Speaker 2: these white supremacists suffer from isolation, lack of resources. Uh, 1916 01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,559 Speaker 2: you know they gonna be hanging around with other white 1917 01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:17,320 Speaker 2: supremacists getting getting even better at white supremacy. 1918 01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:22,000 Speaker 4: In the system needs to be improved. But yes, all 1919 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:22,679 Speaker 4: the jail. 1920 01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, see d Ramsey said it too. I knew he 1921 01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,520 Speaker 2: was gonna say that angry. 1922 01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:30,000 Speaker 4: Face in the chat, right because she's angry at the 1923 01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,559 Speaker 4: system forgiving these people all these years. 1924 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,000 Speaker 3: And I'm with you, d Ramsey. 1925 01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:39,080 Speaker 4: We don't need this type of punitive punishment in the system. 1926 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,880 Speaker 3: This is not justice, this is revenge. Then I say 1927 01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,080 Speaker 3: we turn the other cheeks. No, it's time for us to. 1928 01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:51,519 Speaker 2: Forgive and to let people get back. It's time for 1929 01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,559 Speaker 2: people to you know. You know it's funny. I did 1930 01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,519 Speaker 2: see people the same people that was like mad that 1931 01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:03,000 Speaker 2: they're like people that at mother Emanuel. 1932 01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,559 Speaker 3: Remember when they forgave Dylan Ruth and they got asked, 1933 01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,639 Speaker 3: why you ask for black people to forgive? Same motherfucker's 1934 01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,080 Speaker 3: talking about something. Well, you know, prison abolition. 1935 01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:14,680 Speaker 2: You know, we can't we shouldn't be one to throw 1936 01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:18,000 Speaker 2: these people in jail, nigga, what so, which is it. 1937 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,320 Speaker 2: We're going to be mad at black people, forgive it. 1938 01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:21,839 Speaker 2: We're going to be mad at both of them, John's 1939 01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,639 Speaker 2: brother and all this shit. But at the same time, 1940 01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,519 Speaker 2: ain't nobody supposed to go to jail for being white 1941 01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,760 Speaker 2: fucking supremacists? Like one are the goddamn rules. I just 1942 01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,599 Speaker 2: would like to know one day they're on the rules. 1943 01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:36,160 Speaker 4: I've just come to that conclusion. 1944 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:37,040 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 1945 01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:41,639 Speaker 4: Anyway, it only works out to like thirteen years each 1946 01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,800 Speaker 4: or something like that. It's not even that long, you know, 1947 01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:48,800 Speaker 4: considering that they you know, sixty four white supremacists hanging 1948 01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:49,840 Speaker 4: out doing shit. 1949 01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah to Thursday. Gary Cody Jones fifty. 1950 01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,600 Speaker 4: One will send us over eleven years in prison for 1951 01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:00,719 Speaker 4: his role in the drug dealing scheme marked sixty fourth 1952 01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,040 Speaker 4: and final hearing in the second round of Centizen for 1953 01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:06,839 Speaker 4: a series of kidnapping the drug related conspiracies evolving hate groups. 1954 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 4: Damn there was some real sons and anarchy shit. 1955 01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:16,120 Speaker 3: Wow. Jones lawyer did not return the request for comment. 1956 01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:19,000 Speaker 2: Not only do white supremacist gags and doors repugnant ideologies, 1957 01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,360 Speaker 2: they also facilitate a violent drug and gun trade, putting 1958 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,120 Speaker 2: our citizens in grave danger, said yours. Attorney, Aaron Nellie 1959 01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,080 Speaker 2: Cox said it oppressive leads. We were alarmed, but not 1960 01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:34,200 Speaker 2: necessarily surprised at quantities of drugs and firearm firearms recovered 1961 01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:38,040 Speaker 2: during the disinvestigation. The US Attorney's officers committed to working 1962 01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,639 Speaker 2: with our law enforcement partners to dismantle these organizations, disrupt 1963 01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 2: their criminal activities, and put their. 1964 01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:44,479 Speaker 3: Members behind bars. 1965 01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,800 Speaker 2: So there you guys, go, Karen, I'm gonna put you 1966 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,439 Speaker 2: down for dr cars because there is obviously gonna fuck 1967 01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:55,639 Speaker 2: with you to notice people went to prison, and I'm 1968 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,320 Speaker 2: gonna put myself down for dr cars as well. Let's 1969 01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,280 Speaker 2: move on to the next one. What I'm sorry, did 1970 01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:02,479 Speaker 2: you what's going on? 1971 01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:04,799 Speaker 4: Zero day? Yeah? 1972 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,160 Speaker 3: Wow? Zero, he's a human being. 1973 01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,840 Speaker 4: Go to the jail. Wow. 1974 01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,759 Speaker 3: Go all the way to the jail man. 1975 01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:18,360 Speaker 2: That's Oh, that's really sad that you guys. 1976 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:18,040 Speaker 4: Sell. 1977 01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,599 Speaker 3: I give it. I give it a zero as well. 1978 01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:25,639 Speaker 4: UH. 1979 01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:31,360 Speaker 2: TV reporter breaks industry industry standards by wearing box braids 1980 01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:31,920 Speaker 2: on the air. 1981 01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:35,600 Speaker 3: Be yourself and the world will adjust. 1982 01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:37,240 Speaker 4: Oh this is about sucking one hundred. 1983 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,920 Speaker 2: An Illinois TV anchor is challenging the rigid rules of 1984 01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:45,080 Speaker 2: news industry by wearing braids on the air. Brianna Collins 1985 01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,719 Speaker 2: didn't know she could wear braids on TV. The twenty 1986 01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,479 Speaker 2: six year old news anchor at Fox and Champagne Illinois 1987 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,840 Speaker 2: was tired of wearing straight hair and caw tower in 1988 01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,880 Speaker 2: the industry standards regarding hairstyles, and response, she took action. 1989 01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,479 Speaker 2: I've been in the television industry for about four years now, 1990 01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,000 Speaker 2: so I'm still fairly new to the business. But one 1991 01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,200 Speaker 2: thing that I always wanted to do when I was in. 1992 01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,599 Speaker 3: The industry was wear my braids. She talked us Today Style. 1993 01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes you just wanna give your hair a break, or 1994 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:12,879 Speaker 2: you're tired of doing it every day, right. 1995 01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,480 Speaker 3: Inspired by Florida journalist aj Walker. 1996 01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:22,880 Speaker 2: Who posted photos of her braided hair, Collins asked her 1997 01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,400 Speaker 2: team if it was okay to wear braids towards surprise 1998 01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,720 Speaker 2: network or support her throughout the whole process. 1999 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,679 Speaker 4: Mm hmm, but it's gonna be interested in the viewers 2000 01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:33,840 Speaker 4: just gonna write in about your braids because you know 2001 01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:38,880 Speaker 4: somebody gonna have something to say. Well, uh zero two 2002 01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:47,840 Speaker 4: one hundred oh u zero because it turned out positive, 2003 01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:49,720 Speaker 4: but one hundred for the racist people. 2004 01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:53,680 Speaker 3: Just gonna write in, Okay, all right, that's a new one. 2005 01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:56,719 Speaker 4: Because somebody gonna say something you don't got the white 2006 01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,680 Speaker 4: flowing Hell, the fuck is wrong with you? You know 2007 01:34:58,680 --> 01:34:59,200 Speaker 4: how they do? 2008 01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I give it a zero. I mean it's I 2009 01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,280 Speaker 2: just I'm just you know, happy for me too. 2010 01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,200 Speaker 4: Oh more people can do it, and I'm glad that 2011 01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,200 Speaker 4: was very supportive because you know, it's one of those 2012 01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:14,080 Speaker 4: things when it comes to our hair, they don't try 2013 01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,479 Speaker 4: to hear anything about our hair. It's like you, your 2014 01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,840 Speaker 4: shit better be relaxed. But the thing is a lot 2015 01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,799 Speaker 4: of the hair damage, a lot of the hair loss 2016 01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:24,640 Speaker 4: and all that shit that we have is because we 2017 01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,600 Speaker 4: relax not hair well. 2018 01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:32,599 Speaker 2: It's also because you know, not like you know, whether 2019 01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:34,000 Speaker 2: it's protective styles or not. 2020 01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,400 Speaker 3: Even that's just like if I just want to have 2021 01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:40,320 Speaker 3: my hair braided like like I like, honestly, I. 2022 01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,600 Speaker 2: Don't even really need the argument of well this was 2023 01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:44,519 Speaker 2: best for my hair, like nigga, I want to wear 2024 01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,840 Speaker 2: my hair like this. What's the problem And like she said, 2025 01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:48,920 Speaker 2: you want to give your hair break because regardless of 2026 01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,040 Speaker 2: if you get your hair relaxed or if you go 2027 01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:52,960 Speaker 2: natural like me, sometimes you just want some shit, but 2028 01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:54,360 Speaker 2: you don't want to have to fucking comb it. 2029 01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:56,200 Speaker 3: Right, right. 2030 01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,839 Speaker 2: So it's just interesting that that's still such a hot topic. 2031 01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:04,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, because these black women and Lord Hamburgers don't let 2032 01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:07,280 Speaker 4: them bitches get control of the of their bodies. Who 2033 01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:09,400 Speaker 4: the fuck knows what they'll do? 2034 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:15,759 Speaker 3: Yeap, All right, let's do one more report. 2035 01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,519 Speaker 2: Black business owners are denied bank loans twice as often 2036 01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:19,960 Speaker 2: as white business owners. 2037 01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:21,840 Speaker 4: Be having excellent credit too. 2038 01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,840 Speaker 2: Black business owners are routinely denied bank loans even if 2039 01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,120 Speaker 2: they have good credit scores and consistent annual profits, more 2040 01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:29,200 Speaker 2: than any other racial group. 2041 01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:32,000 Speaker 3: Black entrepreneurs more frequently here no when going out the 2042 01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:32,879 Speaker 3: business loans. 2043 01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:35,360 Speaker 2: One case in point is Freddie Lee James and his 2044 01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:39,000 Speaker 2: wife Deborah, who started Freddy Lee's Gourmet Sauces in Saint 2045 01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,519 Speaker 2: Louis back at twenty ten. The couple has a great 2046 01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,960 Speaker 2: credit store and two hundred thousand dollars in annual yearly profits. 2047 01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:46,559 Speaker 3: The barbecue sauce is. 2048 01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:50,679 Speaker 2: Currently sold at more than a thousand retail stores across America, 2049 01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:57,040 Speaker 2: the United States and Jamaica, including home goods, Schnucks, deer Berg, Straps, 2050 01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:01,320 Speaker 2: and high Ve. Yet they can't qualified for a business loan. 2051 01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,639 Speaker 2: We have a seven fifty seven to sixty credit store. 2052 01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,320 Speaker 2: We pay all our debts. We don't have no problems 2053 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,639 Speaker 2: with that. But they were saying that the Salcet business 2054 01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:13,519 Speaker 2: is not generating enough capital to their standards. According to 2055 01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,599 Speaker 2: the US Federal Reserves Attentions, black business owners are denied 2056 01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,160 Speaker 2: loans by banks twice as often as white business owners. 2057 01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:22,400 Speaker 2: At twenty fourteen, when data was last made available nationally, 2058 01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,920 Speaker 2: more than half of all applications for bank loans from 2059 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:28,960 Speaker 2: black owned businesses were denied. This compares to about twenty 2060 01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:32,280 Speaker 2: five percent of loan applications from white business owners in 2061 01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:36,840 Speaker 2: the same time frame. Goddamn Deborah James said without bank funding, 2062 01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,559 Speaker 2: it's tough to expand their business to achieve the bank's 2063 01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,559 Speaker 2: requirements for volume. She said it's impossible to reach their 2064 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,120 Speaker 2: sales quota by well financed brands while working off of 2065 01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:49,840 Speaker 2: a small business budget. To finance the business, a couple 2066 01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,640 Speaker 2: used one hundred thousand dollars from Freddie Lee James four 2067 01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:56,160 Speaker 2: to one K and then went to Justin Peterson. Justine Peterson, 2068 01:37:56,520 --> 01:38:00,160 Speaker 2: a Saint Louis microlender for Help. The nonprofit organization and 2069 01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,280 Speaker 2: works with small business owners that help them improve their 2070 01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:06,839 Speaker 2: credit and qualify for affordable loans. Galen Gundolphi, a senior 2071 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:11,280 Speaker 2: loan counselor and spokesman at Justine Peterson, said that there 2072 01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:14,800 Speaker 2: are many business owners in the same predicament as the 2073 01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:20,040 Speaker 2: James's Saint Louis seemingly provincial lending struggles not only with 2074 01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:24,080 Speaker 2: the entrepreneurs that don't historically look like them, but also 2075 01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:28,200 Speaker 2: the types of businesses that are unique to those populations. So, yeah, 2076 01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,880 Speaker 2: y'all niggas sell barbecue sauce and they like, oh, that's 2077 01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,639 Speaker 2: some black shit. We don't understand how you even make 2078 01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:37,320 Speaker 2: money with that, because no one else has ever said 2079 01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:42,240 Speaker 2: barbecue sauce that's not black that would buy it, So 2080 01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:48,040 Speaker 2: obviously we can't fund your business loan. Meanwhile, is that 2081 01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,160 Speaker 2: this is a bank literally passing off on profit. 2082 01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,760 Speaker 4: Racism is irrational and got damn imological. 2083 01:38:55,479 --> 01:39:00,519 Speaker 3: Yup. So zero two one hundred. 2084 01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:01,640 Speaker 4: Oh that's one hundred, and what was the name of 2085 01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:06,000 Speaker 4: that place again, the name of the restaurant? The restaurant, Oh, man, 2086 01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:09,759 Speaker 4: I just hold. 2087 01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:11,759 Speaker 3: But I give it to your cards. 2088 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:16,200 Speaker 2: Actually more and more so than the than just one hundred, 2089 01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:19,280 Speaker 2: because it's really they use that one case. 2090 01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:20,040 Speaker 3: But they're talking. 2091 01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:23,519 Speaker 2: About the whole industry. We're a black business. We have 2092 01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:27,559 Speaker 2: great credit, you know, and you know, the only people 2093 01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:29,200 Speaker 2: that are really knocking down our door to give us 2094 01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:33,160 Speaker 2: a loan are like PayPal, because that's more like a 2095 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:36,400 Speaker 2: weird kind of you pay off. They get the money 2096 01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:40,760 Speaker 2: directly out of your revenue type thing. And yeah, that's it. 2097 01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:42,559 Speaker 2: You know, we bank with B, B and T. You have 2098 01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:43,640 Speaker 2: great relationship with them. 2099 01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:44,599 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. 2100 01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:46,800 Speaker 2: They barely even understand what the fuck we do. Every 2101 01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:48,519 Speaker 2: time I'm in the office, I got to re explain 2102 01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:49,160 Speaker 2: what the fuck we. 2103 01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:50,280 Speaker 3: Do right and. 2104 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:54,720 Speaker 2: What And we made a profit, you know, going on 2105 01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,000 Speaker 2: four or five years since we started this thing. 2106 01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,800 Speaker 4: You ma money doing something, Yeah. 2107 01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,439 Speaker 2: And we pay ourselves and we put a little money away. 2108 01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,559 Speaker 2: And still, you know, if we wanted to go in 2109 01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:09,880 Speaker 2: there and borrow some money for some bigger venture, I 2110 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,400 Speaker 2: gotta be stressed the fuck out about are they gonna 2111 01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:18,200 Speaker 2: really respect my black business and the black dollars. 2112 01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:19,479 Speaker 4: Right, because it's you know, it's something that we kind 2113 01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:21,360 Speaker 4: of have talked about, but we're like, you know what 2114 01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:23,599 Speaker 4: is it's very like I said, right, says very frustrated. 2115 01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,360 Speaker 4: And not only that this is business owners so imagine 2116 01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:30,320 Speaker 4: just your normal red glass person with good credit being 2117 01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:33,200 Speaker 4: denied for home loans and shit like that. 2118 01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Freddie Lee's going made sauces, thank you. So 2119 01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:42,320 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's just sad that that's how it is, 2120 01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:44,920 Speaker 2: but yes, emblematic of a much bigger problem, which is 2121 01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,280 Speaker 2: right system throughout the whole country affecting black businesses. So 2122 01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:50,400 Speaker 2: if you're black business owner with and who's the number 2123 01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:51,400 Speaker 2: one people starting. 2124 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:52,360 Speaker 3: Business in America right now? 2125 01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:54,200 Speaker 4: Black people? 2126 01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:54,920 Speaker 3: Black women? 2127 01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:58,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, particularly black women, And a lot of 2128 01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:01,320 Speaker 4: times it's because we're sick and tired of being stick 2129 01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:03,000 Speaker 4: and tied and with sick and tired and not getting 2130 01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,479 Speaker 4: emotions with sick and tired of being skipped over. And 2131 01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,559 Speaker 4: a lot of times we are the ones that support us. 2132 01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,120 Speaker 4: That's why they always fucking shocked and surprise, how the 2133 01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,960 Speaker 4: hell you make all this money off of a hair scarf? 2134 01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:14,960 Speaker 4: Or how the hell you make all this money off 2135 01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,280 Speaker 4: a hair product and creams and shit like that, Like 2136 01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:19,760 Speaker 4: I don't, we don't understand. That's because it's people that 2137 01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:20,840 Speaker 4: y'all want fucking serve. 2138 01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:25,840 Speaker 3: Yep, all right, let's go to guess the race. All right? 2139 01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,799 Speaker 3: Uh wait, why Spotify. 2140 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:33,240 Speaker 4: Mother swell, all right, well did all that pausing just 2141 01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:34,920 Speaker 4: for Spotify to let me down. 2142 01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:41,599 Speaker 3: Now that it's time for some guests. The race. That's right, 2143 01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:46,280 Speaker 3: This guests the race tie. Now that is time for. 2144 01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:50,800 Speaker 4: Some guests story race. That's right, This guests the race time. 2145 01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:53,439 Speaker 3: That's right. 2146 01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:56,720 Speaker 4: It's time for gus the race. The number one game 2147 01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:58,360 Speaker 4: shore going across all the podcasts laying. 2148 01:41:58,200 --> 01:41:59,240 Speaker 3: Where you eat or play. 2149 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,320 Speaker 2: News artists wrong when we asked our contests today caring 2150 01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:05,840 Speaker 2: in the chat room to guess the race, and of 2151 01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:09,960 Speaker 2: course everyone playing is racist. A man posing as Wu 2152 01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:12,920 Speaker 2: Tang clan members accused of scamming hotels out of more 2153 01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:16,240 Speaker 2: than one hundred thousand dollars. Oh a group of men 2154 01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:19,439 Speaker 2: driving around and Rose Royces posed as famous rappers. The 2155 01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:22,160 Speaker 2: scam more than one hundred thousand dollars from exclusive hotels, 2156 01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:24,120 Speaker 2: according to a criminal complaint. 2157 01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:26,080 Speaker 3: File this week in the US District Court of Atlanta. 2158 01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:30,880 Speaker 2: Investigators say Aaron Barnes Verpo and another man claimed to 2159 01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,040 Speaker 2: be with the entertainment firm Rock Nation and the. 2160 01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,040 Speaker 3: Wu Tang Clan. Okay, they don't even go together. 2161 01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:40,519 Speaker 4: The Georgian Terrace Hotel and the Highest Regency in Atlanta. Yes, 2162 01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:42,600 Speaker 4: that's say they got them, say they talked to a 2163 01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:44,720 Speaker 4: black person. They be like, mmmm, this come ome don't 2164 01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:45,400 Speaker 4: make no sense. 2165 01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, I felt like everyone knows whu 2166 01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,640 Speaker 3: tang Uh? 2167 01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,240 Speaker 2: They say they walked out on tas Worth forty five 2168 01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,600 Speaker 2: thousand and thirty nine thousand dollars. It wasn't until a 2169 01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:00,760 Speaker 2: hotel in Augusta suspected the scam that barn Bobo and 2170 01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:05,080 Speaker 2: Walker Washington were arrested Washington and listened to that location. 2171 01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:10,640 Speaker 4: Huh the Georgia location, Georgia. Well, the Atlanta, Georgia was 2172 01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:13,479 Speaker 4: where it first happened. Oh oh, but know what, they 2173 01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:14,920 Speaker 4: probably went to the white side of town. 2174 01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:18,440 Speaker 3: I guess it's gotten that gentrified. I don't know, shp 2175 01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:19,400 Speaker 3: like everywhere else. 2176 01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:22,519 Speaker 4: Credit cards using the scam included one that was stolen 2177 01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:23,760 Speaker 4: in another that was likely faked. 2178 01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:24,759 Speaker 3: The complaint states. 2179 01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,719 Speaker 2: Two others with the group told deputies they were homeless 2180 01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:30,200 Speaker 2: men from Atlanta who had been recruited by the defenders 2181 01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:31,120 Speaker 2: to be bodyguards. 2182 01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:33,559 Speaker 3: Others who traveled with them were not charged. 2183 01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:36,920 Speaker 4: Wow, others who traveled with them. 2184 01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well they look like the Wu Tank clan. 2185 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,360 Speaker 3: Gonna need more than just two people caring. That's true. 2186 01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,040 Speaker 3: Everybody know the Wu Tang clan got like nine members. 2187 01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:45,439 Speaker 3: I don't know what. 2188 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:47,200 Speaker 4: I guess it was, Like I guess y'all one of 2189 01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:49,080 Speaker 4: them is about five to ten of y'all. 2190 01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:51,800 Speaker 3: I don't know which ones they said they were anyway, care, 2191 01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:52,559 Speaker 3: I guess the race. 2192 01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:54,320 Speaker 4: Oh some negroes. 2193 01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:56,880 Speaker 3: Negroes, okay, I always checked the chat room. 2194 01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:59,839 Speaker 4: Uh. Now if they went to the white side account, 2195 01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:03,799 Speaker 4: Oh that's not that cat on black scamming ass. 2196 01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:08,479 Speaker 2: Negroes ain't nothing to fuck with black. I guess they 2197 01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:15,320 Speaker 2: needed to protect their check. Okay, shouting niggas didn't have 2198 01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:19,920 Speaker 2: the cream black. Oh, I see they said the new 2199 01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:24,880 Speaker 2: Thing clan, uh not the Wu Tang clan Black. I 2200 01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:29,200 Speaker 2: guess it's trying to diversify their bonds. The correct answer is. 2201 01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:49,560 Speaker 3: Everyone got it. Of course black. They could claim to 2202 01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:50,679 Speaker 3: be trying to help the homeless. 2203 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess Atlanta must have got that gentrified 2204 01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:57,880 Speaker 2: that No. 2205 01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,000 Speaker 3: But you know what, though, it's so many Wu Tangs 2206 01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,800 Speaker 3: Clan members to be real, you could fake to be 2207 01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,439 Speaker 3: one of them. Niggas to me, like if. 2208 01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:08,519 Speaker 2: You wasn't Ray Kwan one of the main ones like 2209 01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:10,640 Speaker 2: if they was like, yes, me, you got, I'd be like, 2210 01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:15,599 Speaker 2: I guess all right. You know if expected Deck delivered 2211 01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,439 Speaker 2: a piece of my house, I wouldn't fucking know, you know, 2212 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:20,639 Speaker 2: like it is enough of. 2213 01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,720 Speaker 4: Them that they met. Somebody was like, look, I know 2214 01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:25,439 Speaker 4: all the members and you don't look like. 2215 01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,639 Speaker 3: Them were in the Killer Bees. Yeah, they ran into 2216 01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:28,120 Speaker 3: a stand. 2217 01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:31,439 Speaker 4: That's what happened. They ran into a pure stand. It's 2218 01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:33,720 Speaker 4: like if you go to my office, I got a 2219 01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,520 Speaker 4: post and you don't look like niggas. 2220 01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:39,280 Speaker 2: Or you know, with these phones in our pockets. You know, 2221 01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:41,640 Speaker 2: like you could be like, yeah, I'm you God, and 2222 01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:42,960 Speaker 2: I could be like, oh man, I'm gonna take a 2223 01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:44,719 Speaker 2: selfie with you got. And he was like, wait a minute, 2224 01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:45,800 Speaker 2: this ain't no damn you. 2225 01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,320 Speaker 4: Got because the end of that gonna let you know 2226 01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:51,000 Speaker 4: that that's not a real person you got on Instagram 2227 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,320 Speaker 4: right now talking about logging in, cocking in and shawnees. 2228 01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:55,840 Speaker 3: You can't be with god. 2229 01:45:56,040 --> 01:46:02,080 Speaker 4: You got thirty six year old when calls nine one 2230 01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,800 Speaker 4: one repeatedly because parents shut off her cell phone, she 2231 01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:06,559 Speaker 4: got arrested. 2232 01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:11,240 Speaker 2: What she called him on the landlord mut'st have? I 2233 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:14,600 Speaker 2: mean if they cut off her cell phone try to 2234 01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:22,640 Speaker 2: burn her phone, saloney Katara Paul katar Paul demanded on 2235 01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:25,479 Speaker 2: Fairruary thirteenth that authorities come to her Jackson Township home 2236 01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:29,040 Speaker 2: to deal with the matter. Kat Paul was given a 2237 01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,320 Speaker 2: warning instructing her only to die nine one one for 2238 01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:32,640 Speaker 2: a legitimate emergency. 2239 01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:34,559 Speaker 3: Oh, because your phone does let. 2240 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,519 Speaker 2: You continue to die nine one one even if you're 2241 01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:38,799 Speaker 2: is shut off. 2242 01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:42,160 Speaker 4: Right, because it's designed to do that just in case 2243 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,800 Speaker 4: you need an emergency. Yeah, you cannot have service with 2244 01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:48,080 Speaker 4: if your phone is owned, you can still call. She 2245 01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:49,840 Speaker 4: are not the only number you can call. 2246 01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,320 Speaker 2: She argued that what she was experiencing was a legitimate 2247 01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:57,040 Speaker 2: issue and belligerent court documents. Oh, as she was belligerate 2248 01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:59,160 Speaker 2: court document said she is scheduled to appear in court 2249 01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:01,960 Speaker 2: Fedruary twenty seven. Millennials such as character why they had 2250 01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:05,519 Speaker 2: to throw it on the millennials, okay. Booming millennials such 2251 01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:09,439 Speaker 2: as Kitter Paul have often been still typed in general 2252 01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:13,040 Speaker 2: culture as entitled snowflake generation. Arguably, the typical view has 2253 01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:16,200 Speaker 2: some basis in fact, whether for economics and cultural reasons, 2254 01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:18,720 Speaker 2: Millennials really are staying in school and living with and 2255 01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:21,759 Speaker 2: relying on their parents longer than previous generations did because 2256 01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:24,479 Speaker 2: of debt, right, you mean because Sally May and they 2257 01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:28,120 Speaker 2: ass and friend of Mac yeah, or whoever got your loan. 2258 01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:29,920 Speaker 2: We know they have sold out of loans. Okay, Nick, 2259 01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,040 Speaker 2: you please don't write in Okay, it's just Joe. 2260 01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:35,720 Speaker 4: That's that's that's that's like the old coup. But it 2261 01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:39,639 Speaker 4: was like, uh, you owe us, we own you. 2262 01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:43,000 Speaker 3: They are sympathetic to socialism, and why what is this 2263 01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:45,000 Speaker 3: article sold? Hate field? 2264 01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:51,400 Speaker 4: Jesus don't like millennials much anyway, Karen, guess the race of. 2265 01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:55,439 Speaker 3: Soloney Kater Paul. 2266 01:47:57,160 --> 01:47:57,559 Speaker 4: Indian. 2267 01:47:58,000 --> 01:47:59,840 Speaker 3: All right, let's take the chat room and see what they. 2268 01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:05,240 Speaker 2: Believe for the race. She was hoping to get some 2269 01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:09,000 Speaker 2: of her people to answer the phone in't it ah 2270 01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:14,120 Speaker 2: calling the police on purpose? White East Asian? All right, 2271 01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:15,599 Speaker 2: we're not getting a lot. I guess this night power 2272 01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:18,759 Speaker 2: ranger gloves white, red dot, not feather. 2273 01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:20,880 Speaker 3: Hindi, Indy. 2274 01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:24,280 Speaker 2: The curt I've never heard that one before. The correct 2275 01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:27,800 Speaker 2: answer is and you guys that said Indian. Karen, you 2276 01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:37,599 Speaker 2: got it right. Some of you guys got it wrong. 2277 01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:49,400 Speaker 3: Man. 2278 01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:51,960 Speaker 2: She looked mad as hell about that, thirty six years old. 2279 01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:54,559 Speaker 2: But I guess you could be in a situation at 2280 01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,519 Speaker 2: thirty six. I mean, you know what, at thirty six 2281 01:48:57,560 --> 01:48:59,200 Speaker 2: of your parents got to pay for your phone. 2282 01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:00,760 Speaker 3: You probably are the. 2283 01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,639 Speaker 2: Kind of persons that need to call the cops on them, 2284 01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:06,160 Speaker 2: Like it's probably a desperate or enough situation where they 2285 01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:08,960 Speaker 2: still fucking with your phone on at thirty six years old. 2286 01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah that's her picture. 2287 01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:16,240 Speaker 4: Oh she is upset. Yes, she called them multiple times. 2288 01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,960 Speaker 2: She still looked mad about that ship, Like these motherfuckers 2289 01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:21,240 Speaker 2: turned on my goddamn phone. 2290 01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:21,680 Speaker 3: I don't know what. 2291 01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:23,800 Speaker 2: Do I get one call? The only reason I want 2292 01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:25,080 Speaker 2: to go to prison so I can get this one 2293 01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:29,479 Speaker 2: call for free? Catch over my girls? See what they 2294 01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:30,080 Speaker 2: talking about? 2295 01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:43,880 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the bonus round the race? 2296 01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:47,639 Speaker 3: Double it up, saying the race. 2297 01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:50,519 Speaker 4: That's right, dover the points, do the race and the 2298 01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:53,280 Speaker 4: bonus round. I guess the race so far, Karen is 2299 01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:54,240 Speaker 4: a rare tube or two? 2300 01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:58,439 Speaker 3: I know, but can she go into the third? I'm 2301 01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:01,680 Speaker 3: around and get it correctly? Uh? 2302 01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:04,960 Speaker 2: Get it correct A woman posing as a photographer allegedly 2303 01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:07,240 Speaker 2: drugged a new mom and tried to steal her baby. 2304 01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:11,719 Speaker 4: What you could just walk away when she fell asleep 2305 01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:12,880 Speaker 4: from not have enough sleep. 2306 01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:14,800 Speaker 3: You ain't have to drig lem pop it, don't preach. 2307 01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:17,120 Speaker 3: I'm keeping your baby. 2308 01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,759 Speaker 2: A woman allegedly poses an infant photographer and a plot 2309 01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:22,920 Speaker 2: to steal a baby, drugging one new mom with. 2310 01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:25,040 Speaker 3: A cupcake in her temp What. 2311 01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:28,800 Speaker 2: Juliette Parker, thirty eight, was arrested on Friday, and it's 2312 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:32,400 Speaker 2: been held on suspicion of attephed, kidnapping, and assault, according 2313 01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:35,760 Speaker 2: to records in Pierce County, Washington. Her sixteen year old 2314 01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:37,360 Speaker 2: daughter was also taken into custody. 2315 01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:39,479 Speaker 3: What the daughter was in? Wait? You already have a 2316 01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,599 Speaker 3: daughter and you want to steal another baby? 2317 01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,000 Speaker 2: According to the Sheriff's department, The new mother met Parker 2318 01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:47,280 Speaker 2: in a Facebook group where Parker was offering free. 2319 01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,760 Speaker 3: Baby photos she could use the bolster her portfolio. 2320 01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:52,880 Speaker 2: She visited the woman's home three times, taking cell phone 2321 01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:55,759 Speaker 2: selfies with the baby, also wiping her fingerprints off items 2322 01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:56,320 Speaker 2: she touched. 2323 01:50:57,640 --> 01:50:59,519 Speaker 3: Oh now see how you didn't notice that? 2324 01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:01,240 Speaker 4: Oh? 2325 01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:03,280 Speaker 3: Would you like a glass of water? Sure? Did? She 2326 01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:06,759 Speaker 3: just wiping it with her shirt? Yep. 2327 01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:09,920 Speaker 2: And I'm also gonna need to get some alcohol swaps 2328 01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:11,160 Speaker 2: so I can get my DNA off for this. 2329 01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:13,800 Speaker 4: Thank you, oh, so, it's like no proof that she 2330 01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:14,439 Speaker 4: was even there. 2331 01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:16,920 Speaker 2: On the third visit, parker sixteen year old daughter gate 2332 01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:20,160 Speaker 2: a victim of drug cupcake. Basically, she was drugged. They 2333 01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,200 Speaker 2: put drugs in a cupcake, she ate it, and they 2334 01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:24,800 Speaker 2: attended to take a kid. The sheriff Department did not 2335 01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:27,240 Speaker 2: immediately respond to questions from BuzzFeed News. 2336 01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:30,360 Speaker 4: I mean, did she wake up or did she did she? 2337 01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:33,880 Speaker 2: It's almost like it's almost like that's gonna come up 2338 01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:34,720 Speaker 2: in an article later. 2339 01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:38,360 Speaker 3: I wasn't done. I'm sorry, it's okay. I know you're 2340 01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,040 Speaker 3: just very inquisitive over their sher lock. 2341 01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:43,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, like the fuck did she? Did she wake up 2342 01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:45,680 Speaker 4: in the middle of it? Like what's open to them? 2343 01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:49,439 Speaker 3: Kring God over there, Ben wild Blanc, go solve the mystery? 2344 01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:51,639 Speaker 3: Huh yes? Over their knives out. 2345 01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:55,439 Speaker 4: After feeling numbness, drowsiness, and vomiting, the mother went to 2346 01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,479 Speaker 4: the hospital and fouled a police report. 2347 01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,799 Speaker 2: She later discovered that Parker had stolen her house keys. 2348 01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:01,920 Speaker 2: It was all part of reply for Parker to obtain 2349 01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,000 Speaker 2: a baby and then raise it as her own. She 2350 01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:06,519 Speaker 2: wanted a girl. She wanted them five weeks and younger 2351 01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:08,600 Speaker 2: so she could raise her herself, take it out of 2352 01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:10,759 Speaker 2: state and pretend it was a new born of her own. 2353 01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:13,400 Speaker 3: Oh, says Parker was arrested. 2354 01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,479 Speaker 2: Police have identified more new mill she targeted, and the 2355 01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:17,720 Speaker 2: Sheriff's office is call it. 2356 01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:20,519 Speaker 3: Anyone with information to continue to come forward. 2357 01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:23,160 Speaker 4: Why how many missing children is it? 2358 01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:23,400 Speaker 3: Then? 2359 01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:28,280 Speaker 4: Listen, y'all, here's what I'm thinking. This could be a 2360 01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:31,080 Speaker 4: great fucking movie. Oh my god. 2361 01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:34,800 Speaker 2: Okay, you think Girl on Girl had twisting turns a 2362 01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,439 Speaker 2: woman that get her whole baby stolen, and then when 2363 01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:39,599 Speaker 2: they try to find the evidence of who's stolen, and shit, 2364 01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:41,880 Speaker 2: it's like, well, she wiped all her fingerprints, she ain't 2365 01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,519 Speaker 2: got no DNA, that wasn't her real name. You know 2366 01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:48,760 Speaker 2: what I mean. That'll be a great movie. M Tyler Perry, 2367 01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:50,280 Speaker 2: write this, get on it right now. We could do 2368 01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:53,519 Speaker 2: it in three days. I got to I know, you 2369 01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:55,320 Speaker 2: don't need no help writing the script, So you just 2370 01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:56,360 Speaker 2: go ahead and write it. 2371 01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:58,680 Speaker 3: And send me a check. All right, matter of fact, 2372 01:52:58,760 --> 01:52:59,799 Speaker 3: cast me in it. Okay. 2373 01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:01,920 Speaker 2: I want to be the security guard that comes by 2374 01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:04,960 Speaker 2: the house and goes, uh, ma'am, I mean the police 2375 01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:08,880 Speaker 2: and be like, ma'am, we don't have any fingerprints and 2376 01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:12,120 Speaker 2: I need a real bad wig like mister t wig 2377 01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:14,320 Speaker 2: or something I won't. I want to make these niggas 2378 01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:17,280 Speaker 2: upset on Twitter. Tiler, if you're listening and I want. 2379 01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,080 Speaker 4: To be the black fan of MMM girl, I don't. 2380 01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:20,520 Speaker 3: Think you trust them. 2381 01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:22,439 Speaker 2: M get that woman, give care and the wig to 2382 01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:26,800 Speaker 2: give her that like that wig from How to Get 2383 01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:30,720 Speaker 2: Away with Murder type wigs season one, not not the 2384 01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:34,280 Speaker 2: season when they fixed the wig the first season and. 2385 01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:36,800 Speaker 4: Every time you turn to me, I want my weed 2386 01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:37,439 Speaker 4: to be different. 2387 01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:41,800 Speaker 2: Yes, it was a part of applot for Parker to 2388 01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:45,479 Speaker 2: baby Uh. Since Parker was arrested, police are identified with 2389 01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:49,360 Speaker 2: my Moms d Parker also used the names Juliette. 2390 01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:50,360 Speaker 3: Noel and Juliette Gains. 2391 01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:54,200 Speaker 2: After the initial case was reported to the local media, 2392 01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:56,599 Speaker 2: more women have said they were contacted by Parker, who 2393 01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,160 Speaker 2: told them she was a photographer. One mom, Amanda Appling, 2394 01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:02,360 Speaker 2: told m O k O m O News that she 2395 01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:05,160 Speaker 2: spoke to with Parker in December, but was told that 2396 01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:07,240 Speaker 2: she wasn't looking for a boy at the time. Oh, 2397 01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:11,639 Speaker 2: she one of her daughter girl Dad hashtag Gabby Romain. 2398 01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:17,200 Speaker 2: Gabby Romain, another woman who had contact with Parker told 2399 01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:19,479 Speaker 2: the News five, that she was about to let Parker 2400 01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:22,320 Speaker 2: photograph her birth on Monday. Damn, she was gonna take 2401 01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,560 Speaker 2: the baby out of the right out of the birth. 2402 01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:28,200 Speaker 3: Like, excuse me, I'll just cut off this sent to bye. 2403 01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:30,479 Speaker 4: I don't think she could take her to the hospital, 2404 01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:32,480 Speaker 4: because now don't don't don't they hell like the mama 2405 01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:33,280 Speaker 4: would have would have. 2406 01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:35,920 Speaker 3: Maybe she was gonna do it outside of the hospital. 2407 01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:39,160 Speaker 4: Like with a oh, because about saying, now every every 2408 01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:41,720 Speaker 4: everybody the whole fucking hospital go on lockdown. 2409 01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:44,000 Speaker 3: Imagine you the doula for that joint. 2410 01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:46,760 Speaker 2: Now you gotta become the motherfucker person that whooped somebody 2411 01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:47,440 Speaker 2: ass try. 2412 01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:48,080 Speaker 3: And steal a baby. 2413 01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:53,080 Speaker 2: The suspect also unsuccessfully ran for mayor of Colorado Springs. 2414 01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:56,320 Speaker 3: Last year using the name Julie Parker, damn. 2415 01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:58,160 Speaker 4: The real name. 2416 01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:01,480 Speaker 2: During her mayor run, she spoke it's homelessness and advocated 2417 01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:02,520 Speaker 2: for affordable housing. 2418 01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:05,280 Speaker 3: According to coloradt Friends, guess is that. 2419 01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:09,080 Speaker 2: Stealing, right, She was like a listen, if you have 2420 01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:12,280 Speaker 2: children under five weeks that need to be housed, ain't 2421 01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:14,800 Speaker 2: no need for them to be homeless. Okay, now my 2422 01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:19,040 Speaker 2: platform is a very specific platform for affordable house. 2423 01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:21,280 Speaker 4: You have so many twins, you write this fucking move 2424 01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:25,440 Speaker 4: would be excellent. You can back go with her running. 2425 01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:28,160 Speaker 2: For it's honestly like Tyler Perry did write it. It 2426 01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:31,840 Speaker 2: honestly is anyway, Karen guess the race of Julie Parker 2427 01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:39,000 Speaker 2: or Juliette Parker or Julie Gains is white as snow, 2428 01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:41,880 Speaker 2: all right, the let's see the chat room, the hand 2429 01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:44,920 Speaker 2: that steals the cradle, disturbing ass white lifetime movie. 2430 01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:47,760 Speaker 3: White, wouldn' vaccinate the stolen baby? White? The story is 2431 01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:50,680 Speaker 3: handed hand the rocks, handing the rocks the cradle. 2432 01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,240 Speaker 2: White, stealing babies, just some white shit, white white. The 2433 01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:57,160 Speaker 2: correct answer is everyone gets the same thing. Everyone got 2434 01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:02,840 Speaker 2: it right, White. 2435 01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:16,160 Speaker 4: Damn stealing babies, whole ass babies. 2436 01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:18,400 Speaker 3: Diabolical, talking to new mothers with it five. 2437 01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:21,360 Speaker 4: Weeks and traumatizing is sure? 2438 01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:22,680 Speaker 3: How? 2439 01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,760 Speaker 4: I have so many questions, like the fuck is this? 2440 01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:27,800 Speaker 4: What is to the kids? 2441 01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:28,680 Speaker 3: Yep? 2442 01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:33,040 Speaker 2: So I definitely you ain't never gonna find I definitely 2443 01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:36,120 Speaker 2: would not want this woman taking pictures of my baby. Okay, 2444 01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:40,600 Speaker 2: oh no, like she got If your selfies don't look good, 2445 01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:42,280 Speaker 2: I definitely don't need you taking pictures. 2446 01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:43,800 Speaker 4: Who did your eyebrows? Baby? 2447 01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:45,080 Speaker 3: No, thank you, right. 2448 01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:48,120 Speaker 2: Like you're gonna mess my baby pictures up? Then you 2449 01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:51,240 Speaker 2: know all the pressure on Facebook. Can't have no ugly 2450 01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:53,360 Speaker 2: baby because then people be talking about you in these 2451 01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:58,919 Speaker 2: subliminal Facebook posts about baby and then but but everybody 2452 01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:00,720 Speaker 2: know they talking about your baby because like you're the 2453 01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:02,120 Speaker 2: only one that had a baby recently. 2454 01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:07,200 Speaker 3: And shit, y'all not slick. I've seen it. Oh it's 2455 01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:09,480 Speaker 3: funny how you can't say people have ugly babies. Ha 2456 01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:09,720 Speaker 3: ha ha. 2457 01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about nobody specific. I'm like, nigga, you 2458 01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,560 Speaker 2: just seen your cousin baby pictures. What are you talking about? 2459 01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:17,400 Speaker 2: We know who you're talking about. You're not slick. 2460 01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:19,640 Speaker 3: You should have shut the fuck up. All right, let's 2461 01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:21,520 Speaker 3: get into the last segment. 2462 01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:26,640 Speaker 2: Guys talk about sored ratchetness. 2463 01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:34,160 Speaker 4: Eyebrows looked surprised, like a permanent surprise. Hally Queenn with 2464 01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:39,600 Speaker 4: this surprise, she ate that, okay, well eyebrows like that, 2465 01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:40,200 Speaker 4: I'm not even. 2466 01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:46,840 Speaker 3: Sore ratchetness. 2467 01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:49,960 Speaker 2: A man well was a cane sword at a local 2468 01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:55,560 Speaker 2: Trump at local Trump rally attendees, Oh shit, Dnaldton, Dunaldlan 2469 01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:58,920 Speaker 2: Police Chief Mike McQuaig demonstrations. You said, let's get to 2470 01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:02,520 Speaker 2: the article. Wait, is this even the article? What is 2471 01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:07,120 Speaker 2: going on with this saw? Pictures and captions? Give me 2472 01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:10,600 Speaker 2: a second of article. But yeah, of course sor ratching. 2473 01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:12,520 Speaker 2: This is when we cover the stories about people that 2474 01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:15,480 Speaker 2: got swords out here doing all kinds of god knows what, 2475 01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:17,680 Speaker 2: because we don't really have a lot of laws against swords. 2476 01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:20,320 Speaker 2: You would think we want to have gun control. We 2477 01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:23,080 Speaker 2: don't even have sword control. And this is a good 2478 01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:27,920 Speaker 2: place to start. A Dunaling man on February sixth, allegedly 2479 01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:30,480 Speaker 2: brandish a sharp pointed metal sword in the faces of 2480 01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:33,760 Speaker 2: attendees at a local flag waven event held to celebrate 2481 01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:38,080 Speaker 2: the impeachment acquittal of President Donald Trump. Now, who the 2482 01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:41,280 Speaker 2: fuck hell was a party for impeachment acquittal? 2483 01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:44,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. How do you even get that? Evite? 2484 01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:46,160 Speaker 4: How do you? 2485 01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:50,640 Speaker 2: James Whitehurst, the second forty nine was charged February six 2486 01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:53,000 Speaker 2: with ten countsl aggravated a saw with a daily weapon 2487 01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:55,600 Speaker 2: without intent to kill and one count of this eidly conduct. 2488 01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:59,040 Speaker 3: The sword was unsheathed from an unscrewed court wooden. 2489 01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:02,480 Speaker 2: Cane stick, which was similar in dimension to a short 2490 01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:05,640 Speaker 2: pool stick. According to the Dunelan Police report, victims said 2491 01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:08,320 Speaker 2: Whitehurst support a coach to gathering the people at the 2492 01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:12,720 Speaker 2: rally around eleven fifteen am with his sword unsheathed. He 2493 01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:14,760 Speaker 2: then made threats against the group and pointed the sword 2494 01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:15,880 Speaker 2: in the faces of attendees. 2495 01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:16,720 Speaker 3: The victim said. 2496 01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:20,920 Speaker 2: The event was held across the street from McDonald's. Approximately 2497 01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:23,760 Speaker 2: thirty to forty people were in tendance. Thirty to forty. Wow, 2498 01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:26,520 Speaker 2: that's a lot of people come on just on a 2499 01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:30,600 Speaker 2: random Thursday at eleven am. I gotta hey, you know, 2500 01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:32,640 Speaker 2: I gotta get off of work earlier today. Man, I'm 2501 01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:36,120 Speaker 2: going downtown to do the Trump rally. And you know 2502 01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:40,000 Speaker 2: downtown means they got two buildings in this city. I 2503 01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:42,000 Speaker 2: saw him remove the weapon from the sheet as he 2504 01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:44,880 Speaker 2: crossed Highway forty one, said Kenneth Hall, who was among 2505 01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:45,720 Speaker 2: those in attendance. 2506 01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:48,280 Speaker 3: He was enraged. When it got to the middle of 2507 01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:49,440 Speaker 3: forty one. 2508 01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:52,760 Speaker 2: The victims said Whitehurst made threatening remarks while pointing the 2509 01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:55,840 Speaker 2: Kinge sword without approximately within the approximately six inches of 2510 01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:56,520 Speaker 2: their faces. 2511 01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:59,520 Speaker 3: They reportedly. They reportedly said they were in fear for 2512 01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:03,800 Speaker 3: their lives. No one was injured. Wow, yeah, I guess 2513 02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:04,600 Speaker 3: the race of this guy. 2514 02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:07,880 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go White he was white. 2515 02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:12,920 Speaker 3: Good call, man, you're on fire the last two days. Uh. 2516 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:14,440 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm hoping I'm right white. 2517 02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:16,600 Speaker 3: Well I would have wear black or something some hyper 2518 02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:21,600 Speaker 3: brown because you know, uh Trump supporters. Uh. 2519 02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:23,480 Speaker 4: But I was like, you was allowed in the room 2520 02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:26,560 Speaker 4: with him? Yeah, so that's why I said, no, he 2521 02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:28,960 Speaker 4: wasn't allowed in the room. It was a march. He 2522 02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:32,160 Speaker 4: crossed the street with a sword, threaten in their their 2523 02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:33,200 Speaker 4: their their girl. 2524 02:00:33,240 --> 02:00:35,800 Speaker 3: They're gathering, so he wasn't with them. 2525 02:00:35,960 --> 02:00:40,880 Speaker 4: Oh, I thought, okay, okay, yeah, but uh somebody, bro. 2526 02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:51,520 Speaker 3: Now you know I normally don't do this, but James 2527 02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:52,880 Speaker 3: Whitehurst the second. 2528 02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:57,280 Speaker 4: You can't brave your swords allowed. 2529 02:00:57,120 --> 02:00:59,120 Speaker 3: But you can't come down down to the cookout. 2530 02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:04,120 Speaker 4: And we know he gonna protect us a lot of 2531 02:01:04,120 --> 02:01:05,040 Speaker 4: trust support us. 2532 02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:07,080 Speaker 2: That's the kind of holly we needed to cook out. 2533 02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:09,280 Speaker 2: Maybe we maybe we can put him on guard, dude, 2534 02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:10,800 Speaker 2: to give him a sword and make me stay on 2535 02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:15,360 Speaker 2: the side. Somebody will bring you a plate. Okay, we've 2536 02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:15,879 Speaker 2: been shut. 2537 02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:19,080 Speaker 4: The teens that sweet mm hmm. But take the time 2538 02:01:19,120 --> 02:01:21,240 Speaker 4: to make make the white one just for him. 2539 02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:24,320 Speaker 2: We need your help, okay, because you know Trump support 2540 02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:25,680 Speaker 2: is gonna be standing outside. 2541 02:01:25,360 --> 02:01:28,120 Speaker 3: Of the Raleigh, like the Westboro Baptist Church. 2542 02:01:28,960 --> 02:01:31,120 Speaker 4: And uh, he gonna get the regular manaise, you know, 2543 02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:32,960 Speaker 4: the miracle and the niggas, like the miracle we make 2544 02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:34,840 Speaker 4: you with the regular white, you. 2545 02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:38,080 Speaker 3: Can do the dukes. We'll have a Ralph North from 2546 02:01:38,120 --> 02:01:38,560 Speaker 3: bringing you a. 2547 02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:41,440 Speaker 4: Plate him walk out there to you here. 2548 02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:45,440 Speaker 2: Slop it on out there. We'll appreciate your player, keep 2549 02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:49,680 Speaker 2: us protected. All right, that's it for this episode. Thank 2550 02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:53,520 Speaker 2: y'all for listening. We appreciate y'all. Thank you, and we'll 2551 02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:56,800 Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. Until then, I love you, I love 2552 02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:57,080 Speaker 2: you too. 2553 02:01:57,280 --> 02:01:57,400 Speaker 4: Wh