1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, but it's Thursday January in 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Hong Kong, Wednesday January in New York and coming up 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: this hour, Tesla is seeking to boost output quickly after 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: the ev maker reported better than expected profits last quarter. 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: FED Vice chair Leal Brainerd appears to be a top 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: contender to head President Biden's Economic Council, and a SML 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: says limiting China's access to certain technologies will have unintended consequences. 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: US and Germany announced the sending of heavy tanks to Ukraine. 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Russia says the West is escalating the war. China says 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: it sees a major decline in severe COVID cases. I'm 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: at Baxter with Global News. Novak Djokovic moves on to 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: the semis of the Australian Open in dominating fashion. I'm 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: Dan schwartz Been. I'll have that story more coming up 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: in Bloomberg Sports. That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: Asia on Bloomberg eleven three on York, Bloomberg on Washington, 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: d C, Bloomberg one six one, Boston, Bloomberg nine sixties, 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Sirius XM one nineteen and around the world 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio dot com and via the Bloomberg Business app. 19 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm Dead Prisoner and I'm Brian Curtis. Here 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. We do have earnings 21 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: to get right to hear. Tesla reporting better than expected 22 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: profits in the latest quarter. It signaled strength to a 23 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: degree as the company faces growing questions about car buyer 24 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: demand for it's all electric vehicle lineup. Let's get details 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. The Austin, Texas based company reported 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: adjusted earnings per share of a dollar nineteen, beating the 27 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: dollar twelve share average of analysts estimates compiled by Bloomberg. 28 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: The ev market leader says it will increase output quote 29 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible, in line with previous guidance for 30 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: average annual growth of fifty sent over multiple years. It 31 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: also says it is on track to deliver about one 32 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: point eight million vehicles this year in New York. Charlie 33 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Pellott Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. Well, thank you, Charlie. Now, A 34 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: key question going forward is whether there's some downside risk 35 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: for corporate earnings. In three the c IO of New Vein, 36 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: Sarah Malic says, the answer is yes, and for that 37 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: reason she's making the case for fixed income. Just looking 38 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: at rate heights going forward about fifty more basis points 39 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: expected from the FAT, So that's starting to move behind it. 40 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: You can start to increase some of your duration and 41 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: fixed income and get strong total returns in it without 42 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: a lot of these heavy macro risks that are going 43 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: to hit equity. So earns risk in some of these 44 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: other areas that ensumer slow down and that impact on 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: revenue growth and all of that with equities considering their 46 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: valuations is less attractive. That is Sarah Malic there from 47 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: New ven By the way, Bloomberg Intelligence has fourth quarter 48 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: earnings for the tech firms within the S and P 49 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: five hundred are projected to have fallen nine from last year. 50 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Just three months ago those profits were 51 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: expected to be flat. Well, shares in Adani Group companies fell. 52 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: That's after the US investor Hindenburg Research said it was 53 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: shorting the conglomerate stocks. It accused firms owned by Asia's 54 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: richest man Gatamadanni of brazen market manipulation and accounting fraud. 55 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: Adani Group CFO Jushinder Singh later rejected the claims. What 56 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: they report is suggesting that Adana Group companies have created 57 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: shell companies and Yui Caribbean Islands and Maulitias which is 58 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: leading to a tax theft, corruption and money laundering. However, 59 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: that Adani Group CFO has countered, then he has he 60 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: has denied all this allegation and he had said also 61 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: criticized the timing of this landing of this report because 62 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: Janu Day, the flagship company of Adani Group, Dania Enterprises, 63 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: is launching is fullow on offer which is going to 64 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: be the largest fullow on offer in India. Adani Group 65 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: financial officer jusiend Singh. Bloomberg data, by the way, shows 66 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: the market value of ten Donnie owned stocks was eroded 67 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: by about twelve billion dollars in Wednesday's trading. Well. The 68 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: Dutch chip making equipment company A s m L says 69 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: limiting China's access to certain technologies will have unintended consequences. 70 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: We have more from Bloomberg's Annabel Jewelers. The Biden administration 71 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: is leading an effort to curb exports of chip manufacturing 72 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: equipment to China. The Netherlands and Japan are expected to 73 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: join in, but a s mL CEO Peter Venick says 74 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: the measures could eventually push Beijing to create its own technology. 75 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: Simply put, he says, if China cannot get access to 76 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: those machines, the country will create their own. Even so, 77 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: Vennick admits the complex supply chain, combined with the knowhow 78 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: required to recreate advanced chipmaking technology will be a massive challenge. 79 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: Vennick is also critical of export control for other reasons. 80 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: He says chip availability could be reduced and limiting access 81 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: means a less efficient infrastructure and cost will very likely 82 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: go up. In Hong Kong, I'm Annabel Ruler's bloom blow 83 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: daybreak Asia. Meantime, in Europe, Germany's business outlook brightened further. 84 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: A gauge of expectations by the EFO Institute rose to 85 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: eighty six point four in January from the three point 86 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: to the previous month. We heard from EFO President Clemen's 87 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: Foist companies are telling us they are optimistic regarding the 88 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 1: next six months and that suggests overall we will avoid 89 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: a technical recession with most important risk for the German 90 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: economy was a gas rationing scenario, so that risk is 91 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: off the table. Now due to the mild weather, I 92 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: guess a storage is full. Foist also said that he 93 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: expects a shrinking economy in the first quarter, but that 94 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: will be followed by an improvement towards the summer. Well 95 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: back here in the States, we are hearing that FED 96 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: Vice Chair Leo Brainerd is now a top contender to 97 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: become the head of the National Economic Council. The role 98 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: within the White House will be vacated by Brian Deese 99 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: at an undetermined time. Here's Bloomberg's and Marie Hordern. We 100 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: should no decisions have been made, and there are another 101 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: names that have been thrown around, like Gene Sperling, like 102 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: Wally Adamo. But right now what you potentially could see 103 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: in the coming weeks is that the FEDS number two 104 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: becomes the number one economic voice in the West Wing. 105 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: This is on top of a little bit of a 106 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: shake up at the White House, which is pretty much 107 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: natural when you have after a metrom election and two 108 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: years of an administration that is Bloomberg's and Marie hoor Dern. 109 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: By the way, if Brainerd is appointed, that would open 110 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: a slot on the FED seven member board. Now President 111 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: Biden would then need to find a successor who could 112 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: win the full backing of the U S. Senate Brian. 113 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: We are a week away from the next FED decision. 114 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: But if you're talking central banks, I think it was 115 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: the BOC moving markets today. Yeah, that was very interesting 116 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: because all along it has been out in front and 117 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: this would be the first pause by the G seven 118 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: central banks, and it has led the FEDS, so it 119 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: may send a strong message. All right, let's update Global 120 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: News next here on day break. Asia Ukraine will soon 121 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: be some of the heavy artillery and tanks it's been 122 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: seeking for months. Ad Baxter with more from the Bloomberg 123 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: News room at San Francisco, Eddie, Yeah, exactly right, Douglas. 124 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: This comes as a U S and Germany broker a 125 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: deal to include tanks from a number of NATO countries. 126 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: German Chancellor all Off Schultz. Our goal is to quickly 127 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: provide two tank battalions together with our allies. There are 128 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: many countries that would like to supply, and we will 129 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: coordinate that and involve them to make that happen steps 130 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: by step. Yeah. So with that, U S. President Joe Biden, 131 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: today I'm announcing that the United States will be sending 132 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: Abram tanks to Ukraine. Yeah, and along with ukraining Ukrainian 133 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: forces and the use of them, he says. Biden says 134 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: it also sends a strong message at the US and 135 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: NATO are united in their full support of Ukraine's ability 136 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: to defend itself and conduct counter offensives. The expectation of 137 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: the part of Russia's we're going to break up, We're 138 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: not going to stay united. But we are fully, thorough 139 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: totally united, yeah, he says, as is the globe now 140 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: against Russia. Biden did stress that these weapons are not 141 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: to be used in launching first strike, but in defense 142 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: and counter attack. So what does this change, Well, Rose 143 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: gotten Muller, who is a former NATO Deputy Secretary General 144 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: now a professor at Stanford, I think it will make 145 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: a difference because these are the most capable battle tanks 146 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: in the world today. The Leopards are well known for 147 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: being reliable, for being capable, and I think the fact 148 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: that they are deployed across the European NATO allies and 149 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: also NATO partners such as Finland who have offered up tanks. 150 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: She says. Expectations are that Russia will launch major offenses 151 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: in the coming months and Godly says she feels it 152 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: will make NATO stronger. This agreement, delivery of tanks will 153 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: take those months the training begins. Now Russia, well, Russia's 154 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: decrying the decision, saying this is proof that in fact, 155 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: the West is escalating the war, and Russian activist hackers 156 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: have not German website offline in response to the decision. 157 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: Germany's b s I cyber agency says the digital blitz 158 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: has had a little tangible effect. China says a number 159 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: of COVID related deaths and severe cases and hospitals have 160 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: declined by more than seventy percent from peak levels in January. 161 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: It says daily fatalities in hospitals a slid to eight 162 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: hundred nineties six as of Monday Monday, down from over 163 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: hundred January four um. Now, China's numbers have been questioned 164 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: by the World Health Organization, which would like to see 165 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: more data. And the meta platforms are going to end 166 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's suspension. Facebook says it will have it back 167 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: up in the coming weeks. In San Francisco, I'm Ad Baxter, 168 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: this is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg, Gaybreak Asia. I'm Brian 169 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: Curtis along with Rishad Salama. Let's get to our guest, 170 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: Sylvia Jablonsky, co founder, CEO and c i O at 171 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: defiance E t F S. Well, Sylvia, we seem to 172 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: be in a kind of muted reaction phase. So we 173 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: thought maybe Microsoft's guidance yesterday, the week of guidance, would 174 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: lead to a sell off today, but didn't happen. Really, 175 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: Microsoft was down about six tenths of one per cent. 176 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: Is this because to a certain degree, with the huge 177 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: losses we saw last year, Microsoft down some so Tesla 178 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 1: down two thirds that a lot of this is in 179 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: the price. Yeah, good evening. I think you make a 180 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: great point there. You know, we we had a nice 181 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: start to the year, particularly with the NAS dock up 182 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: and looking to recover on some of those tech stocks 183 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: that were just hammered last year to the tune of 184 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: twenty or more. UM. And I think, you know, the 185 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: Microsoft news addition, initially you saw stocks really selling off. 186 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: You saw, you know, futures pointed sort of grossly low, 187 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: and the morning was a little bit rough with us. 188 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: And so I think that ignited concerns that the market 189 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: generals were struggling. UM. As you know, rates have been 190 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: rising and refreshing. Rest and fears are growing. But I 191 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: do think that investors who are interested in tech for 192 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: the long term perhaps came off the sidelines a little 193 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: bit and thought, you know, while the outlook is sort 194 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: of bleak for the next year or two, this this 195 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: sector has been beat up so much, so much of 196 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: it is in the price already, and here's an opportunity 197 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: to you know, kind of get it on another pull 198 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: back if if you have a holding period beyond say so, 199 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: I really think that earnings are going to set the 200 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: tone for the market in the next couple of weeks. 201 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, we'll see some of this choppiness 202 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: day by day depending on what the generals do. They 203 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: always sort of seeing to drive the market mentality or 204 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: psychology for the week. Well, you know, Silver, you you 205 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: make a good point that I mean, when you talk 206 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: about psychology, it's almost as if it's how could you 207 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: say hurry up? And wait? I mean, we are looking 208 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: at these stocks, you know, for for a tech particularly, 209 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: we're looking at five G quantum computing, we're looking at AI. 210 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: These are all things which are going to take time 211 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: before they come on stream, and uh, you know that 212 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: those things are in the price to some extent, and 213 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, it's hang 214 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: on a second, you know what, I can get some 215 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: value somewhere else right now too. Yeah, well, I think 216 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: that's a great point as well. You need to diversify 217 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: your portfolio rights. So I think that if you look 218 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: at the broader macro um you know, kind of economy 219 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: out there and some of the uncertainty in the near 220 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: near term, if you're looking at the short term, then 221 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: I would expect traders to look in more sort of 222 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: defensive sectors or at least make sure that they're allocating 223 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: to things like you know, bonds trateguries that pay four 224 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: percent whatever it might be, um their private trading accounts 225 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: where the cash cash degree three and a half percent. 226 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: You know, defensive stocks like healthcare and things like that. 227 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: But they're the time to pick, to pick up on 228 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: a thematic ETFs and ideas for the future, and ideas 229 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 1: that will play out in the next few years. It 230 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: is now. It is when when you know the prices 231 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: are kind of knocked off of their highs multiples or 232 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: or you know, cut in half or a third, and 233 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: when you think about these ideas, you know, five G 234 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: is the name of a theme, right and quantum computing 235 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,359 Speaker 1: in AI of the names of themes. But these companies 236 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: it's important to number one invest in those teams, right. 237 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: So so if you think about open AI for example, 238 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: right that the big big investment by Microsoft, that is 239 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: going to be something that can be monetized. It's something 240 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: that you know, can replace workers that companies can't find. 241 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: For example, UM it's it's you know, there's real value 242 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: to that and it affects the bottom line. But then 243 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: these themes like five G again quantum computing, they require 244 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 1: stocks like semiconductor stocks, and so those funds UM that 245 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: hold those names, those those companies are doing other things, 246 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: so A and D and and Nvidia. They're part of 247 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, metaverse, they're part of UM running our coffee machine, 248 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: electric vehicles drivers, as far as AI machine learning. So 249 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: there's a lot there. So so so one, do you 250 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: like those companies? Are you starting to buy SMH and 251 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: some of the some of the semiconductor individual names. And secondly, 252 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: because I think this can be wrapped into Tesla blamed 253 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: China for many of its issues, saying that the challenges 254 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: were largely concentrated in China. That's all changing now there's 255 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: no more lockdowns and they're getting back to business. Does 256 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: that add to any optimism, Yeah, it does. So on 257 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: the first question, I do like semi conductors. I think that, 258 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, if you look at the outlook for the 259 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: semi conductor space, and I like you know, and D 260 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: and the video sort of most because they're well capitalizing 261 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: part of every one of these revolutions, that revenue is 262 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: supposed to get to about two hundred and fifty billion 263 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: by that's not so far off, right. So I do 264 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: like semi conductors. They've been beat up. I think that 265 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: they're going to sort of start seeing their their resurrection. 266 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: There's a natural tail one for that space coming um 267 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: where it's just been straight head winds for the last 268 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: two years. To the test the question, you know, what 269 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: are demand looks like it's outpacing two x what what 270 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: the industry expected. And while you know Elon Musk came 271 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: out and said he expects it to contract this year, 272 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: you know they do have trying to reopening. How much 273 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: will that play out? I don't know. But with with Tesla, 274 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, you still have this situation 275 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: where the company is just by far the leader in 276 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: this space. Yes, they're going to have you know, sort 277 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: of more competition, but there will also be you know, 278 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: a higher market share for the EB space and that 279 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: also has talents of UM Inflation Reduction Act and you 280 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: know some of the tax credits and things like that 281 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: that that have been passed, and we'll go towards the 282 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, the knuckle of going carbon neutral. So I 283 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: do think that they have they continue to benefit in 284 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: coming years. So I want to get back to your 285 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: point about semi conductors here. Sure, the government's giving some 286 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: compensation for the uh lots of China as a market, 287 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: but you're still talking about thirty percent of their market 288 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: disappearing here. That's got to hurt of their market is disappearing, 289 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, large sums of their market are 290 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: are reappearing right so automatically. So automative industry is just 291 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: highly reliant on semiconductors, and then you're expecting to see 292 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, massive revenue growth there. The focus of tech 293 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: companies again, we talked about Microsoft AI chart GBT. You 294 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: know this this week's favorite word. All of this requires um, 295 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, sort of managing big data, little wait and 296 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: see that is that all comes through semi conductors. You 297 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: need semi conductors for natural language processing. You know the 298 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: feature of five G depends on it. 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