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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Garrett Downing

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined by Clifton Brown. Today we are coming

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Speaker 1: to you from out west. We are coming to you

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Speaker 1: from Phoenix for the annual NFL Owners Meetings. All owners,

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Speaker 1: head coaches, general managers, league personnel are all here in Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: The fancy builtmore hotel to go through some important league business.

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Speaker 1: Also heavy continuency of media here and this is an

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Speaker 1: important week both for the Ravens and the league as

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Speaker 1: a whole, as this is where the power brokers are

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Speaker 1: and many decisions are made. And so Clifton Brown and

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Speaker 1: I are going to give you our perspective of life

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Speaker 1: out here. For a few days in Arizona, we also

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Speaker 1: had a chance to talk with Ravens team president Sashi

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Speaker 1: Brown covered a lot of ground in the conversation that

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Speaker 1: he had with local media, so we'll break that down

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Speaker 1: for you. So as we get into it, let's just

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Speaker 1: set the scene here Cliff and give listeners some perspective

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Speaker 1: on what it's like at the owners meetings. You've covered

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Speaker 1: this many times over the years. What is it, what

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Speaker 1: what is the atmosphere and the energy like here? Take

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Speaker 1: us behind the scenes a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is always interesting when you come here. You

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Speaker 2: walking through the hallway. Yesterday I went to get my credential.

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Speaker 2: Saw Andy Reid sitting over in the corner talking to somebody,

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Speaker 2: and then kept walking. Saw Drew Rosenhause, the power agent,

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Speaker 2: and you know, Sean McVay saw him this morning. You

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Speaker 2: just don't know who you're going to run into at

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Speaker 2: any time. And as you were just saying, that just

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Speaker 2: amplifies it. Really, the whole league is here and you

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Speaker 2: know some rule possible rule changes are going to be

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Speaker 2: voting on. You know, owners have discussions, general managers, agents.

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Speaker 2: It's an off season time where they are in the

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Speaker 2: same space. And we had you know, the NFC press

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Speaker 2: conference coaches, you know on Monday. We're going to have

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Speaker 2: the AFC coaches speak on Tuesday. So there will be

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Speaker 2: information to come out that the NFL train never starts

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Speaker 2: stops moving.

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Speaker 3: And this is part of it.

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Speaker 1: There's so many big events that the NFL has, the Draft,

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Speaker 1: the combine, everything in the league just gets bigger and bigger.

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Speaker 1: And this event is big and it's important.

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Speaker 4: But I will say.

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Speaker 1: That in the scout, in the scope and the scale

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Speaker 1: of everything, around the league. This one still has a

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Speaker 1: bit more of an intimate feel in comparison to some

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Speaker 1: of the others. And it's not like the Combine, for example.

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Speaker 1: It's it's basically every coach and every scout in the

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Speaker 1: entire league that's that's there. This is head coach, GM

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Speaker 1: owner or team president generally basically a small contingency of

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Speaker 1: team executives and then the league executives. And even from

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Speaker 1: a media standpoint, there's media here from every team and

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Speaker 1: national reporters of course, but it's not to the scale

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Speaker 1: that you have at the Combine or the Draft, and

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Speaker 1: so you have and it's a pretty enclosed environment, and

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Speaker 1: so you have a lot of those interactions that you're

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Speaker 1: it's like everybody that's here, you're gonna see have a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk too quickly. And it's a relaxed environment.

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Speaker 1: At this point of the year. Everybody's undefeated and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of optimism that a lot of teams have,

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Speaker 1: and I think that look, the weather doesn't hurt either,

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Speaker 4: In a good mood.

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Speaker 1: A lot of them bring their families here, and so

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Speaker 2: And yeah, as you mentioned, you see a lot more

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Speaker 2: the combine where there's really just a whole lot of

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Speaker 2: player evaluations. But it is interesting this time of year.

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Speaker 2: We know that all the teams around the league have

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Speaker 2: made major moves since free agency, but nobody's ronster is

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Speaker 2: I remember a few years ago Odell Beckham actually showed

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Speaker 1: So and they met at that met and that was

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Speaker 2: Yes, so you know, you don't know if something like

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Speaker 1: So we had a chance to talk with Sashi Brown

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Speaker 1: along with other local reporters who were here, and he

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Speaker 1: covered a variety of topics in his time with the media.

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Speaker 1: Spent about twenty five minutes talking with local reporters and

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Speaker 1: here's some of the takeaways that we had.

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Speaker 4: First of all, it's.

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Speaker 1: Been an offseason to change and Jesse Manser, of course

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Speaker 1: working with Eric Tacosta, working with Steve Bushatti to ultimately

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was asked whether it was a particular moment

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Speaker 2: Sansei described Jesse as starting strong and finishing strong in

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Speaker 2: the process that I think Jesse is ready more than

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Speaker 2: and preparing for this really his whold adult life, and

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Speaker 2: even before he became adult, his father as a coach.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he was ready. When the opportunity came to

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Speaker 2: clear that after the last season ended that jesse Minner

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Speaker 2: Think from that standpoint, A, the Ravens have a coach

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Speaker 1: And so there was great collaboration and communication between them

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Speaker 1: throughout that and there's definite and excitement that the Ravens have.

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Speaker 4: I continue to feel that way about.

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Speaker 1: Jesse every step of the way, felt that way during

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Speaker 4: And look, no games have been played yet.

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Speaker 1: As I said off the top, everybody's undefeated, so there's

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Speaker 1: they take pride and take seriously doing things the right way,

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, one deal that didn't go down doesn't

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Speaker 2: So the Max Crosby situation, I think one good way

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Speaker 3: People will continue to pick up.

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Speaker 2: I just feel there was a very unique situation that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Assashi emphasized, obviously a very high profile situation

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Speaker 1: so that makes it that puts it into that unique category.

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Speaker 1: Like you're talking about, this is not a trade that

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, They've got strong relationships around the NFL and

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Speaker 1: doubt about it. Another topic that came up in the

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Speaker 1: of this. Sash has talked about this in previous years.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens have indicated that ultimately they would like to

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Speaker 1: have a draft, and those conversations with the league are

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Speaker 1: still ongoing. Sa She described it as kind of a

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Speaker 2: different ways. That kind of tailored the system to the

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Speaker 2: athlete and to the player, rather than having a system

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Speaker 2: that the player has to adjust to. That's the trend

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Speaker 2: around the league. And the Ravens certainly have a coach

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Speaker 2: like Dad who has a history a track record of

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Speaker 2: doing that, of getting the most out of his Ronster. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: their relationship is close, and yes, it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 2: see if Jesse can step right in hit the ground

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Speaker 2: running the way Mike McDonald did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, they are their own people, of course, Like there's

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say they're the same. They're not

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Speaker 1: their own people, but the connections between the two of

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Speaker 1: them are impossible to deny. Like their personalities are relatively similar.

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Speaker 1: They're great friends. They still talk, they bounce ideas off

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Speaker 1: of each other. We're both ways, I mean, Mike said

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Speaker 1: of the combine when I talked to him about it,

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Speaker 1: he said that he's Jesse's probably given him more good ideas.

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably being humble to a certain extent.

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Speaker 1: But I think the like there's a genuine nature to that,

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Speaker 1: which is that these guys, right, these guys like they're

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Speaker 1: friends and they talk and in the in the league,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of conversations that coaches have amongst each other,

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Speaker 1: but not often do you have you always have to

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Speaker 1: hold things back, Like John Harball talked about that even

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Speaker 1: with his brother for years, like, Yeah, now that he's

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Speaker 1: back in the league, I can't really say the things

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Speaker 1: I used to say because there's competitive consideration there and

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Speaker 1: the fact that like Mike and Jesse have that's such

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Speaker 1: a strong relationship. I think that speaks to who they are,

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Speaker 1: the connection between them, and also the respect that's there,

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Speaker 1: and so like they are definitely their own people, no doubt,

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Speaker 1: But I also think that we'd be foolish to dismiss

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Speaker 1: the connection that exists between them and Mike even talked

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Speaker 1: about how part of the reason for that is in

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Speaker 1: the as he described it, in their formative years as

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Speaker 1: young coaches, they were working so closely together to really

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Speaker 1: kind of build the Ravens defensive system that Mike runs

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Speaker 1: in Seattle and Jesse's gonna run now, and that was

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Speaker 1: incredibly important for them. They worked really closely. They were

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Speaker 1: the young coaches who were trying to prove themselves they

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Speaker 1: were on the rise, and they and they and they

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Speaker 1: they did that. That's exactly what their focus was and

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Speaker 1: they were able to do it, and so I think

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Speaker 1: it was it was just interesting to hear about that

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Speaker 1: from him. And then he was even asked, you got

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Speaker 1: any good Jesse Miner stories, and he joked, like, I

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Speaker 1: got some. I can't tell, but yeah, right, don't we

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Speaker 1: all exactly of course, But but he within that, he

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Speaker 1: said he really remembers going to the National Championship game

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Speaker 1: when Jesse was a defensive coordinator at Michigan. Mike had left,

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Speaker 1: he had come back to Baltimore and Jesse replaced him

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Speaker 1: in Michigan where he was a defensive coordinator, and he

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Speaker 1: went back to the National Championship game along with John

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Speaker 1: Harball and they watched that game and Mike said it

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Speaker 1: was just so striking how the focus, the poise, the

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Speaker 1: level of detail execution that that defense played with. And like,

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Speaker 1: when he thinks about Jesse and as a coach, that's

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Speaker 1: the one that jumps out to him and I don't

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Speaker 1: know about you, that got me excited about what he's

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Speaker 1: going to bring to this team.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean winning a national championship and not in

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Speaker 2: the very distant past. I definitely think it's something that

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Speaker 2: Jesse Mintal can draw from With the Ravens. There was

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Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on Michigan that year. There's always

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Speaker 2: pressure in playoff situations, and that is one of the

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Speaker 2: areas where Jesse Minner he addressed that when he got

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Speaker 2: the head coaching job, that this team wants to be

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Speaker 2: a team that plays its best when it matters most.

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Speaker 2: And he was part of a team as defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: at Michigan that did exactly that. They went through the

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Speaker 2: gauntlet won a championship. That's what the Ravens are trying

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Speaker 2: to do, as every team in the league is. But

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Speaker 2: when you've done it, you know that you and even

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Speaker 2: more so, I mean it's proven. So there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of success that Jesse Minder can draw on already. Even

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Speaker 2: though he's never been a head coach, he's had a

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Speaker 2: lot of coaching success. That experience is part of it.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, Mike realized that when he was wanting it,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, last season he was able to

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Speaker 2: be part of something like that himself in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And then we also heard from former Raves head coach

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh. And something that he was asked that I

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Speaker 1: found interesting is he hired or he of course, he

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Speaker 1: hired a number of coaches from Baltimore, but he also

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Speaker 1: brought along some players signed Isaiah Akeley, Jordan Stout, and

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Speaker 1: pat Riccard. He brought all of them with him to

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Speaker 1: the Giants and was asked about bringing those guys with him,

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Speaker 1: and he said, more than anything else, it was about

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Speaker 1: those players, specifically what they do well, the price, all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. But he did admit that another aspect of

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Speaker 1: it is that he's views them as guys that can

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Speaker 1: help build his culture up there. Became based on what

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Speaker 1: they did in Baltimore and what he thinks that the

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Speaker 1: way they play the game, the way they operate that

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Speaker 1: it was in addition to being good players, right price,

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Speaker 1: it was also potential culture guys that he could bring

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Speaker 1: with him there.

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Speaker 2: Right I mean, obviously, the Ravens had free agents that

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Speaker 2: they wanted to keep and were not able to. Every

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Speaker 2: team has to go through that in free agency. It's

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Speaker 2: not shocking that some of those players ended up with

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Speaker 2: John in New York because they obviously knew the coach

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Speaker 2: they would be playing for They already had experience with that.

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Speaker 2: But just like you know, John Horball has moved on,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Ravens have moved on to a new era.

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Speaker 2: But John Horball is not going to even though he's

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Speaker 2: left Baltimore, he's not going to throw away everything that

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Speaker 2: has made him successful coach. He believes in certain type

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Speaker 2: of players. Those players now can help him, as you said,

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Speaker 2: establish what he wants to do up there. So to me,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm still still when I see John wearing

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Speaker 2: a New York Giants it is weirdness. It is it

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Speaker 2: just eighteen years, almost two decades he was here, and

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Speaker 2: so yes, he's still getting questions about the Ravens because

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Speaker 2: people associate him with being the Ravens head coach.

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Speaker 3: He is no longer.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, some of the Ravens culture is definitely gonna

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Speaker 2: move north. But certainly Jesse, I think is as John

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Speaker 2: has said, I think he's the right guy to put

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Speaker 2: his own spin and style and beliefs into a culture

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Speaker 2: that's already been, that has had success, and gives them

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Speaker 2: new energy and juice. I mean, there's definitely an excitement

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Speaker 2: around in the building to have a new head coach

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Speaker 2: who is certainly enthusiastic about putting his stamp on the organization.

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Speaker 2: So it's exciting time and an interesting offseason.

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Speaker 1: It continues, and just to round it out as we're

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Speaker 1: talking about former Ravens, last point is John was asked

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Speaker 1: about Joe Flacco. Of course, we just signed another contract

568
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Speaker 1: with Cincinnati Bengals. He's still going strong into his forties,

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Speaker 1: and John said that he's one of a kind, and

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Speaker 1: he said he talked about how Joe kinda has the

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Speaker 1: ability to pace himself something we've heard a million times.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't get too high, doesn't get too low, and that's

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Speaker 1: part of the reason he's still able to play in

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Speaker 1: this league at this point. So he's marveling at Flacco's

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Speaker 1: ability to continue his career up to this stage, just

576
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Speaker 1: like everybody else, right, And.

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Speaker 4: Look, he's staying in the Division, so.

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Speaker 1: He's the backup in Cincinnati, but there's always a potential

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Speaker 1: you can end up facing him, and the Ravens may

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Speaker 1: end up having to face him again this year, so

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Speaker 1: we'll see. As I mentioned, Jesse, Manager's going to talk

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Speaker 1: with reporters early morning here in Phoenix, but it's going

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Speaker 1: to be later on the East Coast. Ten forty five

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Speaker 1: on the East Coast time Tuesday morning, so we'll live

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Speaker 1: stream that for everybody back home. You can watch it

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Speaker 1: on our app or website and our YouTube channel. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you check that out, and we'll continue to break

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Speaker 1: down everything from here in Phoenix.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for listening. We'll talk with you

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Speaker 4: again tomorrow