WEBVTT - Solar Impulse Ends its Journey

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking. Hey there, and welcome to Forward Thinking, the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that looks at the future and says, I'm taking

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<v Speaker 1>an aeroplane across the world to follow my heart. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland, and I'm Joe McCormick, and our other host,

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren fill Gobamb is not with us today. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>feeling well. But today Jonathan and I are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about a subject that we've touched on in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, and we're gonna come back and experience the

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<v Speaker 1>fulfillment of an around the world journey of technology. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So back in April in two thousand fourteen, on April

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, to be precise, we published a podcast about

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<v Speaker 1>solar powered vehicles, and we talked a lot about all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of different vehicles. Right, we talked about solar powered tanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think we got quite around to that, but we

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<v Speaker 1>got the cars and boats and and even airplanes. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about all sorts of different types of vehicles,

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<v Speaker 1>including are different ways of using solar power from using

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<v Speaker 1>solar power just as the primary means of getting energy

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<v Speaker 1>to move the car to using solar power as a

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<v Speaker 1>recharging station for electric vehicles, sort of a backup. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but one of the things we chatted about was this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of a solar powered aircraft making a journey around

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Yeah, so you may have remember the name

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<v Speaker 1>of this project. It was known as Solar Impulse back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. But we're sort of at the next level.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one better. We've gone to Solar Impulse to write.

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<v Speaker 1>The first Solar Impulse aircraft was impressive in its own right.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll touch on that a little bit in this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was the Solar Impulse too, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle of choice to try and get around the world

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<v Speaker 1>using only solar power as the source of energy. And

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<v Speaker 1>they succeeded. They did. They've just seated in a full

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<v Speaker 1>circumnavigation of the globe in a completely solar powered airplane. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if if you haven't been reading about this and and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, wait a minute, how long did it take?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they ever land? It wasn't continuous, no, no, it

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<v Speaker 1>was It was over the course of many, many, many

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<v Speaker 1>segments and well well even kind of uh talk about

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<v Speaker 1>just a few of those segments in particular, when something

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<v Speaker 1>of real interest beyond I mean beyond just the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they did this incredible feat flying an airplane using

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<v Speaker 1>solar power to generate electricity. Yeah, I guess I've read

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<v Speaker 1>enough articles about Solar Impulse that I got kind of jaded.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, another Solar Impulse article. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>remember to be astonished that this is a solar powered airplane.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a heavier than air flying machine running entirely

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<v Speaker 1>on photovolta excels. I still occasionally, when I'm on an airplane,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have that moment of this is incredible, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I think, well, not only is this incredible, but someone

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<v Speaker 1>has created a solar powered one of these. Typically I

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<v Speaker 1>am on a jet, not an airplane airplane, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly the same thing, but it is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, we'll talk about kind of the motivations behind

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<v Speaker 1>doing this in the first place, Well, what happens next

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<v Speaker 1>now that this around the world journey has come to

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<v Speaker 1>an end, and some other interesting tidbits about the project

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<v Speaker 1>here and there. But first we should kind of talk

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<v Speaker 1>about where did this idea even come from to start with?

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<v Speaker 1>And and I actually went back and listen to that

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<v Speaker 1>April fourteen episode because I want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>when we did this episode, we didn't overlap too much, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't repeat ourselves, but really we were we were

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<v Speaker 1>pretty uh, we were covering so many different topics in

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<v Speaker 1>that episode that we didn't really dwell too much on

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<v Speaker 1>Solar Impulse. So I feel okay about diving into the

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<v Speaker 1>background a little bit in this one. Uh. There were

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<v Speaker 1>two people who were really the the heart behind the project,

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<v Speaker 1>the people who kind of came up with this notion

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<v Speaker 1>and decided to um to really move forward with it,

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<v Speaker 1>one as Pinky and the brain. It's odd that you

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<v Speaker 1>put it that way, and I'll tell you why, because

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<v Speaker 1>one of them is sort of the technical expert and

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<v Speaker 1>the other one was sort of the adventurer type. But

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<v Speaker 1>they both have taken turns flying the Solar Impulse to

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. So the two people were Bertrand Picard

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<v Speaker 1>and Andre Borschberg. Bertrand Picard was born in Lausanne in

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<v Speaker 1>Switzerland and ninety eight, and on the Solar Impulse website

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to read up on him, he is

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<v Speaker 1>referred to as quote a medical doctor, explorer and lecturer

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<v Speaker 1>and achieved the first ever NonStop round the world balloon flight.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't even know he was also a balloonist.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, No, he comes from a family of balloonists.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not even a joke. That sounds like it

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<v Speaker 1>would be a joke, like, yeah, my family's into ballooning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely true in the case Mr Picard, So this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is uh, this is not our brain. This

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<v Speaker 1>is our pinky. Here not to say that he's not intelligent,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's he's he's our pinky. He's not the technical

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't the technical advisor. He's a psychiatrist. So clearly

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<v Speaker 1>is already very intelligent. His father was an undersea explorer,

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<v Speaker 1>his grandfather was a balloonist. Other members of the Picard

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<v Speaker 1>family include organic chemists and other explorers and balloonists. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when you read about the family, you're thinking, this sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like something out of a fantasy. And in fact, there

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<v Speaker 1>can't be that many families of balloonists in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>you would, Yeah, probably very few and far between. Bertrand's grandfather,

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<v Speaker 1>August Picard, was the inspiration for a character in the

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<v Speaker 1>Adventures of ten ten. Yeah, there's a professor. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>professor in in the Adventures who's this brainy professor type,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was modeled in part on Bertrand Picard's grandfather.

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<v Speaker 1>Why that professor? He makes me think inc of Trotsky?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he look like Trotsky? I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>would describe him as Trotsky looking. I guess. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I will say. The character is partly inspired

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<v Speaker 1>by August Picard. I'm just trying to picture him. I

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<v Speaker 1>might have the wrong character in my mind. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many intintin to write. But it's it's funny that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about, yeah, these they sound almost like cartoon characters,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you realize, oh wait, one of them kind

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<v Speaker 1>of inspired a cartoon character. Uh. And. Bertrand himself did

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of flying as a young man. He flew

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<v Speaker 1>in ultralight aircraft, in balloons and in hang gliders, and

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<v Speaker 1>he completed his circumnavigation of the globe in a hot

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<v Speaker 1>air balloon in n So he had already set a

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<v Speaker 1>record before moving on to the Solar Impulse project. Like

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<v Speaker 1>he had set the record as being part of a

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<v Speaker 1>project to fly around the world in a hot air balloon.

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<v Speaker 1>So he wanted to move up to something that was

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<v Speaker 1>just slightly more high tech. Yeah, yeah, and and much

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<v Speaker 1>more challenging in many ways from a technical standpoint, at

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<v Speaker 1>least endurance wise. It's probably pretty rough either way. But

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<v Speaker 1>the other member, of course, Andre Borschberg, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>graduate of m I T. So he's in his training

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<v Speaker 1>is in an engineering that's kind of where his education

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<v Speaker 1>was focused. And he was born in Zurich, Switzerland in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty two. And he's also like I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you read up on him, he is an incredible advocate

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of social causes. Uh. He has dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time and resources to organizations like Rustos

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<v Speaker 1>Decur which is or used to be known as Restaurants decor.

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<v Speaker 1>This is actually a French organization that provides food to

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<v Speaker 1>the needy. Um. He's also helped with social causes that

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<v Speaker 1>benefit the sick. He's he's someone who is he's very

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<v Speaker 1>outspoken about his desire to improve the lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>around the world in as many ways as he can,

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<v Speaker 1>and also has a lot of passion about the environment,

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<v Speaker 1>as does Picard as well. Both of them share this

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously that played a large part into the decision

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<v Speaker 1>to try and make a solar powered airplane, which you'd

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<v Speaker 1>think was kind of crazy. Um he was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the technical department head. So yeah, he's our he's our brain.

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<v Speaker 1>So when did they get this crazy idea to try

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<v Speaker 1>to make a solar powered airplane that they could take

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<v Speaker 1>around the planet. Well, Picard kind of came up with

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<v Speaker 1>it in two thousand two, and then he ended up

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<v Speaker 1>talking with Boschberg and they decided to officially create a

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<v Speaker 1>project called the Solar Impulse Project in two thousand three.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was when they really started to say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what what's going to be necessary? What are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to need in order to make this happen? And there

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of reasons that they were excited about

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. Sorry, the thing that popped into my mind

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<v Speaker 1>is parachute. Yeah right, uh yeah, we I didn't put

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<v Speaker 1>it in our notes, but I will touch on something

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because there are certain questions that immediately come up

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<v Speaker 1>of mind when you start hearing about how long some

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<v Speaker 1>of these flights were, and I will I will go

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<v Speaker 1>into some of that when we get bad pans, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or the fact that well no, let's not let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>spoil it. I'll get there. Uh. So one of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons that they decided they wanted to do this, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>was just the attractiveness of of setting another world record, right,

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<v Speaker 1>creating a world's first. I mean, there could only be

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<v Speaker 1>one world's first in any given category, and this was

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<v Speaker 1>a way of doing that. So there's there's definitely that

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of fame and explorer kind of side of

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<v Speaker 1>the equation. Yeah, but this wouldn't be just a personal achievement.

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<v Speaker 1>Like anytime you demonstrate what can be done with renewable

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<v Speaker 1>energy in a way that surprises people, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>helps knock down some of the barriers that exist in

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<v Speaker 1>opposition to greater investment in renewable energy like solar. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's precisely what they were seeing too. They were saying like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of like a a giant PR project

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<v Speaker 1>to promote solar energy in particular and renewable energy in general.

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<v Speaker 1>And they also said, you know, by setting yourself a challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>by giving yourself a definitive goal that we want to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to achieve X, you then have to determine, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what is necessary for you to get to X. It

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<v Speaker 1>gives you something to work toward, which is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit easier than something that's open ended, like I want

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<v Speaker 1>to improve solar cell technology. It's kind of like saying

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to go to the Moon, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to develop our space exploration capabilities. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>by giving yourself that definitive goal, then you have created

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<v Speaker 1>like a laserlike focus on what is necessary to achieve

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<v Speaker 1>that goal. And the nice thing is making those advancements

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<v Speaker 1>ends up creating benefits that go well beyond just that

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<v Speaker 1>specific project, and we'll talk a little bit about that

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end of this episode. So from two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>three to two thousand and ten, they were really working

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<v Speaker 1>on designing the plane that could fly not just in

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<v Speaker 1>the daytime with direct solar energy. So it's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>to create an aircraft that has enough surface area for

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<v Speaker 1>solar cells to provide the electricity necessary to turn electric

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<v Speaker 1>or to power electric motors that then turn propellers. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge all on its own. Yeah, And we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>more about some of those design considerations in a bit, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the other part of that is how do you

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<v Speaker 1>create one that can continue to fly when the sun

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<v Speaker 1>goes down, because that that's been the big criticism. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the big criticisms about solar power in general is that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're dependent upon the sun. When the sun is not out,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not generating electricity, and so you have to figure out, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you solve that problem for any application that

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<v Speaker 1>uses solar power and not I mean flying a plane

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<v Speaker 1>across the Pacific Ocean. That's a pretty clear engineering challenge, right, Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>electricity generation is a use it, lose it, or store

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<v Speaker 1>it proposition. If you don't use it immediately or find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to store it, it's not going to help you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's there, it's ephemeral, it's gone. Right. So

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to create in two thousand ten the

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<v Speaker 1>Solar Impulse one, the first of the aircraft, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrate that it could actually fly through an entire day

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<v Speaker 1>night cycle using onboard batteries to store electricity and then

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<v Speaker 1>the batteries kick in once the solar cells are no

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<v Speaker 1>longer able to pull the electricity necessary to power the motors.

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<v Speaker 1>And um Picard flew that mission. It was a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six hour long flight, so a day and two hours

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<v Speaker 1>of flying, and it was again a proof of concept.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew at the time that the Solar Impulse one

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<v Speaker 1>was not going to be the aircraft to go all

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<v Speaker 1>the way around the world. But it was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the prototype that allowed them to test the technology and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that in fact, it would serve when they

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<v Speaker 1>needed to get to UH to circumnavigate the globe. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand, the two men flew the Solar Impulse

0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:06.520
<v Speaker 1>aircraft across the United States. UH. They took turns piloting

0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the plane, and they traveled in several legs, so they

0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.800
<v Speaker 1>would fly from one city to another city several hundred

0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.080
<v Speaker 1>miles away, and then UH. Typically what they would do

0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.079
<v Speaker 1>is actually switch off so that one person only one

0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:24.120
<v Speaker 1>persons in the plane because weight is such a big consideration, right,

0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.480
<v Speaker 1>So you got the pilot and that's it, and the

0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.840
<v Speaker 1>other person would either take a commercial flight to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the destination or drive to the destination. Really you

0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.760
<v Speaker 1>could probably run and yeah, I mean if you were yeah,

0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.640
<v Speaker 1>these these plane, this plane does not go very fast

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<v Speaker 1>in the grand scheme of things. But then you would

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<v Speaker 1>switch off, you know, you go to whatever the next

0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:47.160
<v Speaker 1>city is, and then the pilots would trade. And this

0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:51.800
<v Speaker 1>was not can This wasn't necessarily like one flight right

0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.960
<v Speaker 1>after the next either, Right, there was a lot of

0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.319
<v Speaker 1>downtime between flights because for one thing, they needed to

0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.000
<v Speaker 1>make sure that the weather conditions were going to be acceptable. Yeah,

0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that's a big thing, because this this plane's even though

0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.480
<v Speaker 1>it's made out of some pretty interesting high tech material,

0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:10.240
<v Speaker 1>ultimately you're still talking about a fairly delicate machine. And

0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.800
<v Speaker 1>so you couldn't just and plus again, you need solar power.

0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:18.000
<v Speaker 1>You need sunlight. So flying through like storms not a

0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.440
<v Speaker 1>great idea with a solar powered aircraft. Usually when the

0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.840
<v Speaker 1>captain says we can't take off in this weather, it

0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.160
<v Speaker 1>is a safety consideration. In this case, you literally might

0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.960
<v Speaker 1>not be able, you might not have the energy necessary

0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to achieve light. Yeah. So, but that that happened in

0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.600
<v Speaker 1>two thousand thirteen, they were able to fly across the

0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:39.760
<v Speaker 1>United States in this in this several legs kind of journey.

0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.800
<v Speaker 1>And in two thousand and fourteen they officially started to

0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.720
<v Speaker 1>work on the second aircraft, Solar Impulse too, and they

0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.600
<v Speaker 1>began to incorporate lessons that they learned from the first

0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Solar Impulse aircraft. And this one would be the one

0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.080
<v Speaker 1>that ends up flying around the world. That didn't start

0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.920
<v Speaker 1>until two thousand and fifteen, and it went until July

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand sixteen. So it's really took a year in

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<v Speaker 1>several months. Yeah, it was a long process. This was

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<v Speaker 1>not again, something that was done in one continuous trip. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about some of the design considerations that

0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.920
<v Speaker 1>come into play when you're talking about a solar powered aircraft. Well,

0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.280
<v Speaker 1>the most obvious one is the difference in the energy

0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.080
<v Speaker 1>that you're using to power the vehicle. So in a

0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.560
<v Speaker 1>normal airplane you would use to circumnavigate the globe, you're

0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.720
<v Speaker 1>going to be running on aviation fuel. There are different

0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.600
<v Speaker 1>kinds of aviation fuel, but most often it's a kerosene

0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.600
<v Speaker 1>based jet fuel these days, and that's going to be

0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.320
<v Speaker 1>a high energy density, high quality fuel. Uh. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>important for flight because heavier than air flight is not

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<v Speaker 1>just energy hungry, it's energy ravenous. Um. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>generate enough thrust to overcome the gravity of the entire planet.

0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just think about it, and the planet is

0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.520
<v Speaker 1>constantly trying to pull you down to it and give

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<v Speaker 1>you a big earthy hug. Right. So it is rather earthy,

0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.440
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Yes? I guess it could also be briny, Yeah,

0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I guess, depending upon what part of the Earth you

0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.640
<v Speaker 1>are over. Actually, it's more briny than earthy when you

0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.400
<v Speaker 1>really get down to surface area. But go on, quite true.

0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.800
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so these are design considerations you'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>factor in. So to lift an airplane off the ground,

0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you've got to generate that forward thrust to to drive

0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the the air and the way you wanted to go

0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:29.440
<v Speaker 1>across the aerodynamic design of the airplane under the wings. Uh,

0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:33.160
<v Speaker 1>so you know there are considerations like the wing span.

0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.120
<v Speaker 1>You can make the wings longer to generate more lift

0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.800
<v Speaker 1>as you're trying to fly, but that also adds ways, right,

0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.560
<v Speaker 1>so you have to you have to make that. I mean,

0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:45.480
<v Speaker 1>there's so much delicate math that goes into designing something

0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:47.160
<v Speaker 1>like this where you think, all, right, what is the

0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:52.160
<v Speaker 1>optimal arrangement of wingspan to weight where we're gonna have

0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the large enough wingspan to generate the lift we need

0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.960
<v Speaker 1>to get off the ground and and hopefully have the

0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:03.760
<v Speaker 1>best wing span to uh improve the efficiency of flight

0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.720
<v Speaker 1>so that you're not having to spend way too much

0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.119
<v Speaker 1>energy to maintain flight. Like you want to have the

0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.240
<v Speaker 1>minimum amount of energy you need to continue to be

0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.160
<v Speaker 1>in the air, but you don't want you can't go

0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't make a wingspan of indefinite length,

0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.080
<v Speaker 1>because eventually you get to a weight that it makes

0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.400
<v Speaker 1>it impossible for you to achieve flight in the first place.

0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Structural integrity exams and that also is a real issue, right,

0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.160
<v Speaker 1>like if you've got too big, then the ends of

0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.160
<v Speaker 1>the wings would be so heavy that your aircraft would

0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:38.000
<v Speaker 1>break apart. Yeah. So this aircraft was powered by photovoltaic sils,

0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.639
<v Speaker 1>as we said, so, yes, that's the kind that directly

0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.480
<v Speaker 1>converts the sunlight into electricity, as opposed to other forms

0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.040
<v Speaker 1>of solar such as solar thermal. Right, it's not it's

0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:50.639
<v Speaker 1>not generating electricity through heat. It's changing it's when the

0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:55.240
<v Speaker 1>photons excite electrons, and that's what you get with your electricity.

0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.120
<v Speaker 1>And it's just the big black mirrors that you see yep, yep,

0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.679
<v Speaker 1>the kind that you would see on typically like if

0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.120
<v Speaker 1>if if your neighbors, or if you have ever installed

0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.920
<v Speaker 1>solar panels on the top of a house, that's typically

0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the kind that we're talking about, right. So it's got

0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:13.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those. It's got seventeen thousand two photovoltaic

0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.840
<v Speaker 1>cells that are across the top of the airplane for

0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.840
<v Speaker 1>a maximum exposure. Yeah, and and those cells provide electricity

0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.840
<v Speaker 1>to four thirteen point five kilowatton motors, and those motors

0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:27.560
<v Speaker 1>each turn. Each motor turns a propeller and also provides

0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.119
<v Speaker 1>charge to onboard batteries. So if you look at the

0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Solar Impulse too, and you see this this plane with

0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.000
<v Speaker 1>really wide wings, you'll see that there are the four

0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:41.960
<v Speaker 1>propellers in these little like rectangular casings. Those casings hold

0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.840
<v Speaker 1>not just the propeller and the electric motor, but also

0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:49.159
<v Speaker 1>the battery, the four big batteries that are on board

0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.760
<v Speaker 1>this plane. So that's where they're balanced there along the wings,

0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.359
<v Speaker 1>so that the weight is distributed just the right way,

0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and that the propellers are positioned in such a way

0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to provide the optimal thrust for the air craft. Now,

0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.720
<v Speaker 1>those batteries have to be an interesting design consideration because

0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:08.120
<v Speaker 1>usually batteries are heavy. Yeah, these batteries are are They

0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:12.080
<v Speaker 1>make up twenty of the aircraft's overall weight. More than

0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.200
<v Speaker 1>actually it's more more than a quarter of the weight

0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.480
<v Speaker 1>of the aircraft goes to those four batteries that are

0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.280
<v Speaker 1>in that the wings of the Solar Impulse to do. Yeah,

0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.520
<v Speaker 1>so let's get into the design here. So, yeah, this

0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.320
<v Speaker 1>thing if you've seen a picture of it, and if

0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you haven't, you should go look it up. There are

0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:32.320
<v Speaker 1>some great photo galleries online and Solar Impulse, either at

0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.200
<v Speaker 1>stations around the world or in flight. It's cool looking.

0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.600
<v Speaker 1>It's got a massive wingspan, gigantic. Yeah, it's huge, a

0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:45.080
<v Speaker 1>wingspan of seventy two ms. And that is compared for comparison.

0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I looked up the wingspan of a Bowing seven eight,

0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.800
<v Speaker 1>which is sixty eight point four meters, So this is

0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:56.960
<v Speaker 1>a one passenger aircraft that has a wider wingspan than

0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:00.720
<v Speaker 1>a Bowing seven Right. And uh, in case you're not

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<v Speaker 1>up on the metrics, for one thing, if you wanted

0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:07.439
<v Speaker 1>to switch it to yards, it's almost seventy nine yards wide,

0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:10.320
<v Speaker 1>which means that it's getting pretty close to being as

0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.960
<v Speaker 1>wide as a football field is long. I mean, you

0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 1>know it would it would if you were to put

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.359
<v Speaker 1>it in the center line of a football field, it

0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:20.639
<v Speaker 1>would span a very good portion, pretty much to the

0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 1>two ten yard lines. Yeah, it's it's pretty impressive. It's

0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:28.160
<v Speaker 1>about two thirty six feet if you prefer feet to yards.

0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, so huge wingspan, but on, but compare that

0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:35.600
<v Speaker 1>to the fact that the entire airplane. According to those

0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:39.200
<v Speaker 1>public facing material Solar Impulse put out, it weighs two

0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.320
<v Speaker 1>point three tons. Okay, so that's a lot if you're

0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to like lift it with your arms. Yeah, but

0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.919
<v Speaker 1>that is not a lot for an aircraft. Compare that

0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.960
<v Speaker 1>again to a Boeing seven actually, the weight of which

0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find from Boeing itself. I'm I guess maybe

0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:56.960
<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't consider it surprising that they don't want to

0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.920
<v Speaker 1>share publicly the weight of their aircraft. But I did

0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:05.159
<v Speaker 1>find an online aviation encyclopedia that claimed that the empty

0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:08.400
<v Speaker 1>weight of a Boeing seven forty seven is about four

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:14.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy thousand pounds, which works out to two Yeah,

0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:19.480
<v Speaker 1>that's that's hefty, But think about the comparison there. So

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the Solar Impulse has about a hundred and five percent

0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.800
<v Speaker 1>of a seven forty seven swing span and less than

0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 1>one percent of its empty weight. Right, So you already

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:33.040
<v Speaker 1>are seeing that they had to make some pretty uh

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:37.000
<v Speaker 1>dramatic considerations in order to make this a viable aircraft.

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Beyond that, you could say, well, how do they get

0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:41.679
<v Speaker 1>the weight so low? And part of it was the

0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:45.560
<v Speaker 1>use of lightweight materials like various carbon fiber composites that

0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 1>are lighter in weight than stuff like steel and aluminum.

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 1>But that's not enough. They also decided, hey, is this

0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:58.239
<v Speaker 1>particular system necessary for the plane to get up and

0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 1>stay up in the air, And if it isn't, we're

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:02.879
<v Speaker 1>getting rid of it. And that's exactly what they did

0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.919
<v Speaker 1>when they started designing the Solar Impulse. They said, anything

0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not specifically necessary to get into the air or

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:12.679
<v Speaker 1>stay in the air, we're not gonna put it on

0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.439
<v Speaker 1>the plane. So do they have like the pilots weighing

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 1>their breakfast that they before they take off. I'm certain

0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:23.520
<v Speaker 1>that they had very specific like, uh, allotments for what

0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.840
<v Speaker 1>food could be brought onto the plane because you have

0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:30.280
<v Speaker 1>to eat. Some of these flights took more than a

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:35.440
<v Speaker 1>hundred hours uh and that's multiple days obviously. So one

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:37.120
<v Speaker 1>of the other things they would do is say, like, well,

0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, it would it would be pretty heavy if

0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:43.480
<v Speaker 1>we had a system to pressurize the cockpit, so let's

0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:49.359
<v Speaker 1>not do that. So the cockpit was unpressurized, also unheeded, unheeded. Yeah,

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 1>there was no heating, rare conditioning in in that cockpit. Yep.

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:57.200
<v Speaker 1>You you were pretty much gonna need to make sure

0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you were bundled up or able to cool off um

0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:04.040
<v Speaker 1>or just endure it for the length of the flight.

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.440
<v Speaker 1>And it also meant that they had to have um now,

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 1>like they had to carry like a portable oxygen tank

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:16.080
<v Speaker 1>to occasionally take a good whiff because they're flying it.

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:19.600
<v Speaker 1>They're flying a decent altitudes like twenty nine feet. I mean,

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:25.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that's pretty high up there. So they were definitely,

0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 1>uh being adventurous in this approach. So anyway, these are

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.600
<v Speaker 1>these considerations weren't made lightly. It wasn't like they were

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 1>just being cavalier about it. They were making very tough

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>calls on all right, what what can we expect to

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 1>do without putting our lives at risk unnecessarily? Uh, and

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>what can we what do we absolutely have to have

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 1>in order for this to be a successful project and

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:57.919
<v Speaker 1>not a terrible, terrible note in history. And that's a

0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>that's a tough call because these both I mean, clearly

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Picard had a history of adventure in his past, and

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:08.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes you might make a call that other

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 1>people would say, well that just seems like that's too

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>far beyond my threshold for risk. Right. But this meant

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 1>that they got a plane that was at that two

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>point three tons that wasn't wasn't as nearly as heavy

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>as other aircraft. And that's one of the reasons why

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 1>it was a success, because they were able to keep

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 1>that weight down, which allowed the electric motors to provide

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 1>enough thrust to keep the plane going. So it kind

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>of brings us over to the fact that we know

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned before the flying by night, like how do

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you fly by night? Right? If you've got to fly

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>for four days straight in order to go across an

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>ocean or something like that, and if you can't, you

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>can't just run on what's available at the moment, right,

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.719
<v Speaker 1>And if you're determined, if you're absolutely determined that solar

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:58.119
<v Speaker 1>power is going to be the source of your energy

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and you're not going to fudge by having a like

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>a fuel based motor, backup motors and yes, some sort

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>of engine as well as the motors, then you've got

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to figure out, you know, how are we going to

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.639
<v Speaker 1>to continue to fly at in you know, the hours

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>of darkness. And then of course comes down to those

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>batteries we talked about. They have four high voltage batteries

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>aboard the solar impulse too, and the photovo take cells

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 1>can actually generate enough electricity to both power the electric

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:34.400
<v Speaker 1>motors and recharge the batteries simultaneously, which was absolutely necessary

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 1>on the very long flights, right because you know, you

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>would get to a point where, sure, you might be

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:41.959
<v Speaker 1>able to make it through one night, but if you're

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>not able to recharge that battery during the next day

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and then you go into a second night, you run

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 1>into some serious problems. So each battery is a seventy

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:54.959
<v Speaker 1>leader lithium polymer battery with an energy density of two

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 1>hundred sixty one hours per kilogram, and their total mass

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 1>is six hundred already three kilograms, And like I said,

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 1>that means it's more than a quarter of the total

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:08.720
<v Speaker 1>weight of the aircraft. So, uh, that to me is

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>incredible that the batteries themselves make up more than a

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:15.360
<v Speaker 1>fourth of the of the weight of the entire vehicle,

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:18.919
<v Speaker 1>especially when you think of a vehicle that has a

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>wingspan that that huge. Uh. They could store a maximum

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>capacity of thirty eight point five kill what hours of

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 1>energy of electricity, and they did did have a second battery,

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 1>but that battery wasn't like a backup system or anything.

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.959
<v Speaker 1>That second battery was a low voltage type of battery

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that specifically provided electricity to the cockpit systems, so you

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>would have your navigation tools and things like that continued

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>to be powered through that battery, as opposed to one

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of the ones that was in charge of making sure

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 1>the propellers didn't stop moving. Um And if you look

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>again at the picture, you'll see the little that they

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>called him gondolas, the the kind of rectangular cubic sort

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.400
<v Speaker 1>of containers that the propellers extend out of. They are

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.719
<v Speaker 1>pretty big. There was a great picture in one of

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the one of the pages on the Solar Impulse page

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 1>that showed a person, an engineer, laying inside a gondola,

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 1>clearly working inside of it on connections, and so all

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>you see are the person's legs and feet sticking out

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>from the end of it. So it was they're big,

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 1>they're not tiny things, and the batteries take up a

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 1>good amount of space in there. And they actually partnered

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>with a whole bunch of different companies to create this.

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just Solar Impulse too. So in this way,

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Solar Impulse is a lot like organizations like NASA where

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>they partner with other companies to provide materials or entire systems,

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>depending upon what it is you're talking with. Yes, Yes,

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>So this was not just two guys who went into

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a backyard and built a solar powered airplane. One of

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>the companies they worked with quite a bit was sulv

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>a UM, they Solve. They did a whole bunch of

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>different work on the Solar Impulse too, but they, for

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>one thing, provided the material, the lightweight, sturdy material, mostly

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>carbon fiber and carbon fiber fiber composites to create the

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>actual body of the airplane. They also provided a protective

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>resin to coat the solar cell so it was transparent,

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>but also provided protection in the event of the aircraft

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>encountering bad weather or you know, any sort of dust

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that that it may have to move

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>through from one region to another. You know, you're going

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>around the entire world. That's a lot of different environments

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you're going to pass through. Uh. And the solar cells

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>were provided by a company called SunPower, and they were

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>really high efficiency all things considered. They had an efficiency

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>of twenty two point seven percent now compared to consumer

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>solar cells which tend to be around twelve to. Maybe

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>you might find some as high as twenty, but that

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>would really be super high end on the consumer side,

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>two seven percent is pretty incredible. Now. That efficiency means

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>that twenty two point seven percent of the energy hitting

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:17.479
<v Speaker 1>that solar cell can be converted into useful electricity. The

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>rest of it is bouncing off or being absorbed as heat,

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>just sort of the nature of solar. Yeah, it's we're

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>never going to develop a solar cell that will be

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>a percent efficient. It is physically impossible. The I think

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>the hypothetical limit from like a quantum uh level is

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>somewhere between I want to say, I want to say

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>is the absolute limit, but it's closer to like six

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>for more realistic limits, and that's if everything were perfect,

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>which will never do anyway. Um So getting to this

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven is actually pretty incredible, even though it sounds

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>low when you're thinking about percentages and you think twenty

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>two point seven doesn't sound that impressive, but trust me,

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>it is. Uh. Then there were other companies. There was

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a company called Omega that provided lightweight l e ed

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>s for the lighting for the plane, obviously very important

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>when it's coming in for a landing, that kind of stuff,

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and there were others as well, So this was a

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>group effort. Now let's kind of talk about the actual

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>trip around the world. Well, yeah, so, as we mentioned,

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the Solar Impulse is a one seater. Yeah, so you

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>don't get to have a companion on this journey. Yeah,

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and this was the same as what I was talking

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>about with the USA trip, where the pilots would switch

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>off between legs, but it would mean that one person

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>would take a normal flight over to whatever the destination

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:49.959
<v Speaker 1>was and await the arrival of the the other pilot,

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and then they would switch out and do that all

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the way around the world with some pretty significant delays

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>in between some of those legs. That's got to create

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>a very weird looking like commercial flight history. Yeah. Well,

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be one point in particular where we're gonna

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>talk about some kind of an unfortunate but sort of funny, uh,

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>set of circumstances that involves the more mundane aspects of travel. Well,

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>so the two pilots were the same two pilots we

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>talked about before. It's the same two guys behind Solar again, right. So, Uh,

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>as we mentioned before, the flight was not continuous that

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>there were seventeen different stages of the flight that they

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>spent a total of over five hundred hours in the

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>air growing around the world, but layovers included. It took,

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>as we said, over a year to complete the entire circumnavigation. Right,

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>so five hours is around the twenty one days. So

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>you think about your like, think about for for three

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>quarters of the month of February you are flying. Yeah, not,

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean for for for twenty four hours a day

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>for three weeks you're flying. It's a lot of flying.

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do that. I mean, you would

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>hit executive platinum like no time at all, but that

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>would be brutal. But you're not right in first class,

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>are you? No? No, this isn't even steerage if there

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>were such a thing for aircraft. Well, let's talk about

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>the different legs of the flight because some of them,

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:27.959
<v Speaker 1>some of them will just gloss over pretty quick. But

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>a couple of them had some interesting stories. We came

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>a price about them. So they started and finished in

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates and uh so

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the first leg of the trip was Abu Dhabi too, Muscat, Oman, right,

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to give you guys sort of a comparison,

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Like we talked about five hours in the air, twenty

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>one day's total, and it took more than a year

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>for the whole thing to complete. But it's still kind

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of hard to put into your head, like how fast

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>is this thing traveling? The answer is not very uh,

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>And so I thought one way to do that would

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>be to take this first egg from Abu Dhabi to

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Mascott and to look at the amount of time it

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>would take on a commercial flight versus the time it

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>took the Solar Impulse to to complete that trip. So

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>if you were to book a commercial flight on Oman Air,

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>that particular trip would take about an hour and fifteen

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 1>or an hour and twenty minutes. And keep in mind,

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, that includes all that whole taxiing business, you know,

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the stuff when you're not actually in the air. So

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 1>somewhere around a little hour and twenty minutes to get

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.959
<v Speaker 1>from point A to point b. Uh the trip, the

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>distance that the Solar Impulse to travel, which by the way,

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>is probably not the exact same flight path that you

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>would see in the commercial flights, was about four eight

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>miles or seven seventy two kilometers and it took them

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>to Uh, it took the solar Impulse to rather thirteen

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>hours one minute to make the trip. So thirteen hours

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and a minute to go the same distance that a

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>commercial flight would take in an hour and twitter. So yeah,

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that it's incredible. A thirteen hour You know. I've been

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>on some flights where there's been delays, but I've never

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.799
<v Speaker 1>had an hour and twenty minute flights stretching to a

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>thirteen hour one minute flight. Oh man, I don't. I

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>don't like sitting on an airplane for a long period

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>of time. Um, I mean not. It is a wonderful

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>modern luxury to be able to travel, yes, all around

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the world, so I shouldn't complain about it. But I'm

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not so made as to enjoy long periods of

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>sitting still without being able to get get up and

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>go do something else. Yeah, especially not being able to

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:39.799
<v Speaker 1>do it without being a complete inconvenience to everyone around you. Yeah,

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.399
<v Speaker 1>because it tends to be the way it is on flights. Also,

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>one thing that you do have an advantage of over

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 1>the pilots of the solar impulse too. This is a

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 1>good time to talk about it because thirteen hours. That's

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a long time to go, right. If you are on

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>a long flight, elaboratory you've got elaboratory you can walk to,

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>but you better not try to smoke in there or

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.839
<v Speaker 1>disabled the smoke detectors. You are in for a for

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>a weapon that you couldn't believe, or at least a

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 1>finger wag. Right, it's a Delta Airlines State Safety video choke.

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, so on the celar impulse to of course,

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>there's single seater. There's no lavatory there. The chair, the

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>pilot's seat, served multiple purposes. This was exactly a reaction

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>in the April fourteen episode. I said, oh yeah, when

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I got to this part you and Lawrence, So yeah,

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 1>it acted as the pilot seat, a cot for sleeping in,

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and a toilet. Yeah, which, by the way, I have

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a chair at home that serves those purposes too. It

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't meant to that. I figured, with a little determination,

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you can turn any chair into that kind of thing. Wait,

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>so does it stretch out to become a cot or

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.760
<v Speaker 1>do you just sleep sitting on That is a question

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I do not. I think I think it may have

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>reclined a little bit, because I would think just for

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>some kind of strange psychological reasons. You need to be

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.760
<v Speaker 1>in a slightly different position for sleeping than the position

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you're in for pooping and and possibly also for piloting. Yeah, yeah,

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, that's attractive to think about, right, the idea

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>that you've got, you know, you know, but but you

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't have a lot of other stuff there because

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 1>it would add weight. So it was it became a

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 1>matter of necessity. Uh, not the most glamorous of things

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>to think about, all right. So the first trip was

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Abu Dhabi to Oman, and next they went Ohman to

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 1>uh Metabod, India. And here's a funny story. This is

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>what I was talking about with the mundane. So Picard

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>lands in India and when he gets there, there's this

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>big welcoming ceremony and there are a bunch of local

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>authorities there, they are members of the media there, they

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>all want to have their picture tag and they all

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>are doing speeches. They're talking to him, they're welcoming, welcoming him.

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:07.919
<v Speaker 1>He's getting this incredible experience. And it went on for

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:11.359
<v Speaker 1>so long that Picard was not actually able to go

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and get his passport stamped to move to to legally

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>enter the country. They closed down the office the essentially

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the checkpoint where he could get his passport stamped, and

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>so he was stuck. It was kind of like, you know,

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:27.879
<v Speaker 1>being stuck in an airport. He could not legally go

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 1>anywhere else. And so uh he was delayed, and that

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>meant that he was not going to be able to

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 1>catch another flight to go further into India and meet

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 1>up with uh the other pilot Borshberg in order to

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 1>do another switch, and that was to Varanasi, India, And

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>so it became clear like he it was gonna make

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a delay, and this was a big deal because a

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 1>delay in one place means delays all the way down

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the line. For It's not like they could pick up

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>speed and make up for lost time. This plane was

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>not built for that. So it was it was legitimately

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 1>a concern to them that they were going to have

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 1>this delay, and there was not really anything they could

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>do about it. They were kind of stuck in this

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>this legal bureaucratic mess. It seems almost a metaphor for

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>those times when a bureaucratic limbo interferes with the progress

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>of technological achievements. Yeah, exactly. It's a great little way

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>to point at it. I mean you part of you,

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 1>you're like you understand where the issue is it. Well, yeah,

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean you've gotta you gotta follow the protocol. But

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>couldn't we have maybe had him get his passport stamped

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 1>first and then have the big welcoming ceremony. Clearly no,

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>so they were able to continue obviously. So the next

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.840
<v Speaker 1>leg was to Varanasi, India, and then there was a

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>switch then um Mandalay in Myanmar, and then Cheong King

0:38:55.920 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>or Chong Hing I should say, in China, uh non Jing, China, Nagoya, Japan,

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and then we hit the longest leg of their journey

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 1>around the world. Because what's after Japan. Well, if you're

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>playing risk, you might go to come chat up across

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.839
<v Speaker 1>through Alaska. But they were crossing the Pacific Ocean. Yeah,

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and Pacific, by the way, is pretty big. It's a

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 1>big ocean. So they were going from a Nagoya, Japan

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 1>to Hawaii and this was the the longest expanse that

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 1>they were going to have to travel in this solar

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>powered aircraft. Barshberg was the one who piloted this leg,

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>so I guess he got the short straw and Um

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:43.400
<v Speaker 1>This was a record breaking flight. It spanned five thousand,

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:48.280
<v Speaker 1>five miles or eight thousand, nine hundred twenty four kilometers.

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Their maximum altitude was around twenty eight thousand, three hundred

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>feet or eight thousand, six hundred thirty four meters, so

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty high up there. And the whole thing took them

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>four days, twenty one hours, and fifty two minutes to

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 1>fly to Hawaii. So they just shying five days flying. Yep,

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of poop napp And that's I mean,

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that's an endurance test, right, and that that also shows

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you have to have a lot of of confidence in

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 1>your aircraft's ability to stay on course. And you know,

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they developed strategies for how long they should

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>sleep at a time and then wake up probably regular intervals,

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:34.240
<v Speaker 1>to make certain that they're still on course and haven't drifted,

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:37.240
<v Speaker 1>or that the weather conditions hadn't changed in a way

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that was going to put them at risk. There are

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of considerations you have to make when you're

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>in that position. It is almost unthinkable to me, like

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 1>how complicated that had to be. I have trouble sleeping

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 1>on a regular passenger airliner. Yeah, yeah, I understand entirely,

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and once they once they landed in Hawaii, they needed repairs.

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.439
<v Speaker 1>And this is also terrifying. They had to repair because

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 1>the batteries had sustained dammit, they had been overheating. And

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>so you know, anytime you're talking about a chemical battery,

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>temperature can play a big role in how that battery performs.

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>If you cool a battery down too much, then it

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>is very sluggish. It's not going to generate electricity at

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 1>the rate that you would normally expect. Uh So that's

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>a problem. But if it overheats, then the chemical reactions

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 1>can start going, uh getting too fast. You end up

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>losing capacity, so that even once the battery cools down,

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you can never charge it as fully as you did before.

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.240
<v Speaker 1>So then's a good reason not to leave your laptop

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:44.359
<v Speaker 1>in a hot car. Yeah yeah, because then you're like, hey,

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's weird because charge the other day lasted

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 1>me like six hours and now it's like two. Uh So,

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>they obviously had to do repairs and replacement of a

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:57.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of of parts to make sure that they would

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>be safe for the next leg. Because while the next

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>leg was as long, you're still talking about multiple days

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:07.880
<v Speaker 1>over the Pacific Ocean, right, so they get to Hawaii,

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>they have to do repairs. That slows them down a

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Then their next leg was from Hawaii to

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco. This was a two thousand, five thirty nine

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>mile or four thousand eighty six kilometer journey, which took

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 1>two days, fourteen hours, and twenty nine minutes to make

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the trip, so not nearly as long, but still two

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 1>days of flying two and a half more than two

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and a half. From San Francisco, they flew to Phoenix, Arizona,

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>then to Tulsa, Oklahoma, then to Dayton, Ohio, and this

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>is when they hit another snag. So one of the

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>things they had for this project was they had a

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 1>portable hangar, like an airplane hangar to store the airplane

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 1>when it wasn't in flight or when there wasn't a

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>hangar that they could use in the location they had

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 1>gone to. And this portable hangar was kind of an

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>inflatable um UH building, So they inflated it had a

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 1>semi rigid structure and they could park the airplane in there.

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:14.360
<v Speaker 1>In Dayton, Ohio, there was some problem where the hangar

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.839
<v Speaker 1>started to deflate. Yeah, it was collapsing in on its

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 1>plane with the plane inside it. So you've got this

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 1>plane with this massive wingspan and this lightweight strong material.

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>But it is very lightweight material. If you were to

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>put too much weight on the end of those wings

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and they could snap or at least weaken the structure,

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:38.720
<v Speaker 1>which obviously would be devastating if that were to fail

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of a flight. So this was a

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>moment of high anxiety and stress for the entire team.

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>They didn't know at first if the plane had sustained

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:51.880
<v Speaker 1>any damage, and so they had to take some time

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that, in fact it was still in

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 1>good working order. Fortunately it was, but it did end

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>up causing a bit of a delay and and set

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:06.280
<v Speaker 1>them back a little further than what they had intended. Uh.

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Their next trip was from Ohio to le High Valley, Pennsylvania,

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>which is near Allentown. I've never heard of that before.

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>You never heard of Allentown or le High Valley. As

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I say, if you've never heard of Allentown, I got

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 1>a Billy Joel song you Gotta Here, which is really depressing,

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's a song about Allentown, Pennsylvania. From there, they

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 1>took off and landed in New York and then we

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>hit the next pretty long leg. So they had already

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>gone across the Pacific. That was the that was always

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be the longest of their trips. But now

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.160
<v Speaker 1>they had another long stretch over ocean, this time the

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Atlantic Ocean, and they were flying from New York across

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the Atlantic to Seville, Spain. Now this took a lot

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>less time than crossing the Pacific. The Atlantic is not

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>as wide, or at least the distance between North America

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 1>and Europe is not as great. But they didn't have

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a stop along the way here. Now this was straight

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>flight from New York to Saville. So this was the

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 1>second longest leg. The third longest would have been the

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 1>second part of the Pacific trip. The first was Japan

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to Hawaii. This would be the second one. The third

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:16.320
<v Speaker 1>was Hawaii to San Francisco. So this trip lasted two days,

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:19.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty three hours and eight minutes, so almost three days,

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 1>and the distance traveled was four thousand, two hundred four

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>miles or about six thousand, seven hundred sixty kilometers uh.

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:31.399
<v Speaker 1>From Seville, Spain, they flew to Cairo, Egypt, and then

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 1>from Cairo back to Abu Dhabi, where they started and

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:39.840
<v Speaker 1>that would conclude this globe trotting trip and um. But

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>they were facing challenges right up to the very end.

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I read in the Solar Impulse blog where they were

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about the very last leg of the journey, and

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:51.360
<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of concerns. They were related to both,

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:55.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, the politics and the climate of of trying

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 1>to cross the Middle Eastern terrain. So they wrote, quote,

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 1>crossing the Middle East is not as easy as you

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 1>may imagine, which I already think of as not being easy. Yeah,

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:07.760
<v Speaker 1>there are a number of factors such as no fly zones, heat,

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>thermal's talking about the thermal patterns right, like like updrafts

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 1>of air from where, you know, the same sort of

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 1>things that that large birds of prey would use to

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 1>remain aloft. Yeah, take off and landing conditions and wind,

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 1>making this flight the most complex we have yet encountered.

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:30.839
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine, like just when you start looking at

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 1>the different countries that they had to either pass over

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 1>or stop end, it must have been a real effort

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to get the kind of permissions necessary to make this journey.

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just even the beyond the technical challenges, just

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 1>the political negotiation you would have to do yeah, I

0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 1>don't even know. I mean, I can't. Is it difficult

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to land a plane in Myanmar? I do, I don't know,

0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 1>But I'm sure that when you're passing through some of

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the countries they were talking about, there's you want to

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 1>be real specific with your permission request to enter their airspace.

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:09.760
<v Speaker 1>And I guess it probably doesn't hurt that they're both Swiss.

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>That probably helps a little bit. But uh, and also

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 1>you know that this was a a an endeavor to

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>push solar power, and you know it's an environmental and

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 1>scientific value to the project, which I think helps a

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:28.879
<v Speaker 1>lot of countries say yeah, we're all right with that.

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 1>But still, I mean, I wouldn't want to be the

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>person who's, hey, we hired you. Your job is to

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.359
<v Speaker 1>get permission for us to enter the airspace of all

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 1>of these countries, like and keep in mind that some

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.439
<v Speaker 1>of them don't like the countries. You have already been

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>in peace on Earth and goodwill towards he who sits

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 1>in the poop Cut. Poop Cut that it's gonna be

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the name of my band, poop Cut. Ladies and gentlemen,

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the stage, poop Cut. So the total journey

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 1>as we mentioned. Began in March, finished in July on July, so,

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.760
<v Speaker 1>uh took a long time. It was more than twenty

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:12.360
<v Speaker 1>six thousand, seven hundred miles or forty three thousand kilometers

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:16.879
<v Speaker 1>in total. That's a long journey. It's a very long journey. Yeah,

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 1>and you actually I like that you have a note

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 1>here about what the average flight speed was on that

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>final leg of the dree You think that you're thinking

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to cross the finish line right there, they're almost there,

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 1>so they gotta be putting it a pedal to the metal.

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:31.720
<v Speaker 1>How fast were they going? It's thirty four point five

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>miles per hour or fifty five point four kilometers per hour,

0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and that you wouldn't think that you could stay up

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 1>in the air at that speed. Right. Well, it's those

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 1>huge wings, you know, it's being lights having the design

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>giant wingspan and uh man, that's uh that's impressive. Yeah,

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 1>and uh you might wonder, well what comes next? I mean,

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 1>we now that they've completed this this thing, they've been

0:48:57.200 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 1>working on it for more than a decade, Well what

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:03.120
<v Speaker 1>are they gonna do now? Bertram Picard has said, quote

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that within ten years we'll see electric airplanes

0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:11.280
<v Speaker 1>transporting fifty passengers on short to medium hall flights. That

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that sounds great to me, but I somehow have a

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:17.959
<v Speaker 1>hard time believing that that will be the case. Yeah,

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean it would be awesome if it was. I

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know how you could. You would have to design

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 1>it so that the speed of travel is much greater

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>to to make it worthwhile worth the time, Like, why

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>why is this commercially appealing? Yeah, because if you could

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:39.560
<v Speaker 1>drive to the location faster or as fast as the

0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:41.839
<v Speaker 1>process of getting on a plane and flying, then why

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:44.839
<v Speaker 1>would you bother with the flying part? Right? I guess

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you could say for crossing water or something, it might

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:52.839
<v Speaker 1>be an alternative to taking a boat. Um, so that's possibility.

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 1>And man, you could also argue that if you were

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 1>to design like a luxury version of this, it could

0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:02.839
<v Speaker 1>become kind of, uh, status sort of thing. But that's

0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 1>not exactly commercial demand. That's talking about Hey, one per centers,

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 1>how would you like to very slowly pass over the

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:14.680
<v Speaker 1>land that you rule with iron fist? You know? I

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 1>would also think that fifty passengers, Okay, that's adding a

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of weight. Commercial passengers are probably gonna want lavatories,

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, They're probably are not so happy with the

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 1>poop cut the drink carts and stuff like that. They

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:33.160
<v Speaker 1>will probably want heating and air conditioning. Um. So, I

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:35.799
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It's a little hard to imagine. But one

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:37.839
<v Speaker 1>thing that I'm not trying to discourage it. I mean,

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:39.879
<v Speaker 1>I think it would be great if somebody could figure

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:42.319
<v Speaker 1>out a way to make this work commercially. I'm just

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 1>trying to put the pieces together in my head. It's

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>hard for me to imagine it being practical. I I

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Speaker 1>think it would also be awesome if we could make

0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 1>it practical, because getting off a reliance for fuel would

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:57.440
<v Speaker 1>be great. I mean, we've talked about the environmental impact

0:50:57.440 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 1>of stuff like air flight and other shows. So um yeah,

0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see it too. I don't know

0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:05.520
<v Speaker 1>how practical it is, but one thing that is practical

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>again is the fact that by making this engineering challenge

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and by completing it, they've shown what solar power is

0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:17.359
<v Speaker 1>capable of doing, and with any luck, they've inspired more

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:20.400
<v Speaker 1>people to really take a serious look at solar power

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 1>as a way of supplementing or perhaps supplying all of

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 1>their electrical power. And that would be amazing. Um. And

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 1>we we've talked about that in other shows as well,

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 1>so ultimately, you know, again it was get your names

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 1>in the history books and also let's promote the heck

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<v Speaker 1>out of solar energy and renewable energy. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>they succeeded on both counts, so really impressive, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting to look at another kind of engineering challenge. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about that in like all the DARPA episodes too,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very similar. So this was pretty cool. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that we had a chance to follow up on it

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<v Speaker 1>because when we recorded this back in two fourteen, I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure if it was ever going to actually happen.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some times with weather delays and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanical problems where I was wondering if they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to complete it, but they were,

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<v Speaker 1>so congratulations to them. It's pretty cool. If you guys

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