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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck. Coming soon to Ohio on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: He Here are your hosts, Bow Bishop and Nathan Sagura. Alright,

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Speaker 1: let's do it live on a Tuesday edition of the program,

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Speaker 1: merely Bow in the great Z. How you living, buddy

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Speaker 1: doing great man, Nice little Tuesday Tuesday program. You got

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Speaker 1: a nice little comeback from the Goat last night. Not

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Speaker 1: good enough for us, thanks for nothing, but so fun

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Speaker 1: to see him do that and also puts in perspective

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Speaker 1: what our defense was able to do against him two

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Speaker 1: weeks ago in similar really bad for three and a

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Speaker 1: half quarters, but then he was he was. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is really the Saints. I mean the Saints had

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Speaker 1: three They've given up three points. Uh Ingram's already apologized

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Speaker 1: for going out of bounds. Like all they have to

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Speaker 1: do is run clock. It's over the It's just a

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Speaker 1: stunning failure on there. And I've got this great system

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Speaker 1: Monday nights in games that I don't in that I

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Speaker 1: don't have a vested interest. So games we don't play

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Speaker 1: in games of angles, don't play in the teams that

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Speaker 1: I gotta pay attention to closely. So here's the process.

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Speaker 1: I watch until halftime. As soon as I know we're

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Speaker 1: headed to half, then I pop into White Lotus or

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Speaker 1: yellow Stone. So White Lotus Sundays Yellowstone last night, as

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Speaker 1: those shows are like fifty some minutes. I jumped at

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Speaker 1: the timing usually works that I miss all of halftime

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Speaker 1: that's been the flow that I've gone with. I like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's nice. It's a nice, nice way to go about it,

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Speaker 1: to consume your NFL when we have to consume, and

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Speaker 1: like that break in there um and so you watch

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Speaker 1: this game. And as as I went to watch, and

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Speaker 1: I went to watch, I was thinking to myself, well,

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Speaker 1: sucks because you just knew it and just didn't have

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Speaker 1: And here's news. They're not um and you probably question everything.

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Speaker 1: If you're Brady, you're questioning everything that you did and

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Speaker 1: how did? Why is it so bad? So quick? There?

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Speaker 1: happy feat sailing some balls, made some brutal reads, um

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Speaker 1: And so he gets the ball back and you go, well,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go win. He's gonna win seventeen sixteen. I

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Speaker 1: Now the other teams in that division are I think

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Speaker 1: not do that right? Because of the so the Eagles had.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles had three ones last year. They traded, they

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Speaker 1: Philly got a third last year. The Eagles for are

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Speaker 1: they'd be more dangerous. I believe with Jameis Winston. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of there's an incredible story today from Seth Wickersham on

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Speaker 1: ESPN about Andrew luck and why you made the decisions.

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Speaker 1: It's long, I mean, it's war and peace long, but

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Speaker 1: Week two they lose the Caroline. He throws no touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: then the next week they beat Tampa. It's a game

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Speaker 1: and I don't remember. You may watch Caroline. He was dreadful,

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Speaker 1: that as there's clearly something like if he was all

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Speaker 1: looks of his own volition, he was going to be special.

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Speaker 1: We get beat up a lot of them. Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: Couch car, I'll pull him up. But I mean that's

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Speaker 1: just Baker. The crazy thing about Burn actually stacks up

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Speaker 1: the last twenty years or so. So in terms of quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Couch draft. So Manning goes the year before it's night,

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Speaker 1: and anytime you win in the NFL, it Atders and

427
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Speaker 1: so there was a lot of excitement about that win. Um.

428
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Speaker 1: I think that the defense, and especially for Mike Preefer

429
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: and the special teams unit, I think that there was

430
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Speaker 1: a lot of joy in the fact that there, you know,

431
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: Joe Woods defense and Mike pre for special teams really

432
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 1: came through in a big way and contributed very much

433
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Speaker 1: to this win, scoring three touchdowns for the Browns. And

434
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Speaker 1: I think that there was also some sadness about the

435
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Speaker 1: loss of Siona Taki Taki. My friend Kenny Kenny is

436
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Speaker 1: devastated by the loss of Taki Taki is as many

437
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Speaker 1: of us are, and so I think there was also

438
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: some some sadness around that, but overall, certainly a very

439
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: positive feeling because you went to Houston with one goal

440
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: to win and you did that. Yeah, I think that

441
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Speaker 1: there's a UM. I think the rest of it is

442
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Speaker 1: stuff that we do, you know, talking head people do

443
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Speaker 1: the rest of the stuff. But when you're when you're

444
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Speaker 1: in a game that it's pretty binary and to come

445
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: out with a win, you get it and and you're

446
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Speaker 1: you're onto the next. UM. Offensively that we talked quite

447
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Speaker 1: a bit about this yesterday and it'll just be about UM.

448
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Speaker 1: I think the word I keep coming back to with

449
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: DeShawn is just not comfortable. That's two words. Obviously, uncomfortable

450
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: is probably the better way to say that. He just

451
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: never seemed like himself in there. And now I think

452
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Speaker 1: you thought were hopeful that it would seem a little

453
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Speaker 1: more like no time has passed, But in reality, seven

454
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 1: hundred days is a lot of days. Yeah, and those

455
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: days showed up and he said he felt every single

456
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Speaker 1: one of them. It was his mechanics were off, his

457
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 1: footwork was off, the timing was a little bit off.

458
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: The rhythm. Uh. And so twelve yards one interception rating

459
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Speaker 1: a fifty three point for the lowest of his career

460
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: we've talked about. It was also the first time in

461
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Speaker 1: his career that he has been the quarterback of a

462
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Speaker 1: team in the National Football League that failed to score

463
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Speaker 1: an offensive touchdown. So it's going to get better from there.

464
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Speaker 1: And you know, that was his first week of getting

465
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Speaker 1: all the reps in how long. So this is it

466
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Speaker 1: is different. Practice cannot simulate games in the National Football League.

467
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Speaker 1: But I do think that he is going to bounce back,

468
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Speaker 1: be back and be better. Will it be what you

469
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Speaker 1: needed to be soon and to take down the Cincinnati Bengals,

470
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Speaker 1: That's the question that's out there right now. Yeah. Um,

471
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Speaker 1: I think the big the other big takeaway here is

472
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Speaker 1: is we we've got a real issue at receiver now, Um,

473
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Speaker 1: you've got a lack of health. That's a problem. Um,

474
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Speaker 1: I'm hopefully where where are we with the chief? Are

475
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Speaker 1: we hopefuls across? I'm more than hopeful optimistic that the

476
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Speaker 1: Chief will be back this week. That would be a

477
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Speaker 1: critical that's huge. Then you have three guys in the

478
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Speaker 1: passing game again that you can really work with and

479
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: and that's that's really what you need to be effective

480
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: because right now it is too right you know where

481
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: you've got injury problems and you have just can you

482
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Speaker 1: count on people? So there is it's a really really

483
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: thin room right now. Uh wide receiver, Um, offensive line.

484
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Speaker 1: You know from I'm watching on television, it didn't feel

485
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: like our best performance there. Certainly on the two edges

486
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: uh jed really struggled in this game. Gave up five

487
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: pressures according to profit bul Focus and and he's gonna

488
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: have to be better dealing with a very good pass

489
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: rushing duo and especially Trey Hendrickson that I'm sure I

490
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Speaker 1: will get a lot of work against in the game

491
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: against the Bengals. Yea, Hubbard and Henderson worked well together,

492
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: so that'll be that will certainly be a problem. For

493
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: their defense, and since we'll do matchups tomorrow their their

494
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: defenses or meet the Bengals tomorrow. Their defense is is

495
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: pretty sturdy and has play well for a while. They've

496
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: won now four in a row, including that one Sunday

497
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Speaker 1: over Kansas. So their last loss was to US yep

498
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: yep yep yep um Special teams. It was good to

499
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: get a sturdy performance there. This is the performance of

500
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Speaker 1: the year from Mike Preefer's unit. You had a special

501
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: team's touchdown from Donovan People's Jones on the pipe return

502
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: and kid seemed like he hit them all true. So

503
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: that was good to see. What did any of them

504
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: wobble in the building? UM, I know, I thought he was.

505
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: He was good too, wonky kickoffs, a couple of kickoffs

506
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: where he kind of like missed the ball and hit

507
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: those low line drives. But I mean the field goals

508
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: were great. Corporal work has continues to punt very well

509
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: at a high level. UM, And so that I thought

510
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: was that was very encouraging. And then not only did

511
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Speaker 1: you score a touchdown, you forced a fumble. Kunasha popped

512
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: the ball out that Tony Fields recovered. Um, so you

513
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: have best shoule teams form, and still you could clean

514
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: up on the on the kickoff after the safety, you know,

515
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: allowing a fifty yard return when he had three guys

516
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: around him. That was not good. But for the most part,

517
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 1: certainly a plus plus performance from the from the special

518
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: teams unit. Jim said something yesterday that I thought was

519
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: was pretty pointed and I think appropriate when talking about

520
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: Kade York that he's got to figure out how to

521
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: kick in his own building and kick here like, and

522
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: that's something that's just gonna take some time, isn't Because

523
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: you can feel how this place getting people's heads kicking

524
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: down there, no doubt. And you think about the fact

525
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: that Kade York, you know, started the season eight of eight,

526
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: then hit a nine for fifteen stretch which is not great,

527
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: and then was able to kind of get it back together,

528
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Speaker 1: which was which was good to see. But you know,

529
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Speaker 1: I can think of the extra point he missed was

530
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: was it at First Energy? He missed two in the

531
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Speaker 1: game at First Energy against the Chargers. He had to

532
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Speaker 1: miss it First Energy in the last game against the

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Speaker 1: that we won. So yeah, that's it's a tough it's tough.

534
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: It's tough and and getting better at First Energy Stadium

535
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: will be huge. Yeah. And this one Sunday down at

536
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: Cincinnati not as rock as the situation in terms of

537
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: the wind, guts and all of that. But I'll probably

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00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: be cold and it's turf if I'm not mistaken. I

539
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: think you have that right. Yeah, So what are we

540
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: headed for down there? You have you taken an early

541
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: Look what we got weatherwise? It's not the one I

542
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: saw was upper forties in cloudy. Again, I will take

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00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: that in December. Sure, they they're usually at least ten

544
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: degrees warmer than us. Oh, I think got fifty eight

545
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: on Friday. Yeah, it's forty seven, no rain, cloudy, but

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00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: almost fifty degrees. Perfect. Perfect, That's fantastic. That's luxurious, really

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Speaker 1: is what I would call it. Yeah, that's that is

548
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Speaker 1: that is very very good. Um So look it was

549
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: a necessary You gotta play your first game sometime. There.

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Speaker 1: He is the great Scarlet Scarlet sliding around. Looks like

551
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: he's at at more pace than for him. Scarlett was

552
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: on the trip he was went to Houston, that's right?

553
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: Is that a rarity? I was shocked that he was

554
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: able to grace us with his presence on our plane.

555
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean he's not. I'm I'm getting ready

556
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,879
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558
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: sure it is. Guess who pops out Scarlett? That guy?

559
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Speaker 1: How do you think he's operating? They opened the door

560
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Speaker 1: for him. Boy, must be nice to be you. He's

561
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563
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. Hello, give it Hello boys, a little one

585
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: thought action, Let's dand let's go Sunday night. It was

586
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: close for a little bit. It was fun, it was interesting.

587
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: And then the Indianapolis Colts showed their true colors Cowboys

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Speaker 1: fifty four Colts nineteen bo Bishop. One thought was a girl.

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00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: That's all he does. All I was thinking about. You said,

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00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: let's dance, and I was trying to remember the next

591
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: part of that is the Burgundy line. Let's dance, blank weed,

592
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: and I was I couldn't place it as Burgundy, Papa Burgundy.

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00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: That's great, Um, look the I will I will stick

594
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Speaker 1: to the rules here, and I will say that the

595
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: one thought is that the Indianapolis Colts are who we

596
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Speaker 1: thought they were, and you get a little emotional bump,

597
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: as I think we properly projected on the scores when

598
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: they first got Jeff Saturday, that you get a little

599
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: emotional bump with it, and hey, remember Peyton Manning and

600
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: all of that. But in the end, it's a bad

601
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: ball and it's a bad football team, and so they

602
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: were pretty much exposed by a really good Dallas team. Yeah,

603
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys just took it to them, especially at the end

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00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: of the game. By the way, Malik Hooker having a

605
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: nice little career resurgence with the Cowboys and scored in

606
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: this one. But yeah, the cults are dreadful. I did appreciate,

607
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 1: though I don't know when the last time is that

608
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: I've seen a losing team victory formation out of game.

609
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: I'll admit I did not watch to the end. So

610
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: they did that, the Colts victory formations and melting out.

611
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: We'll see on down the road really victory formation or

612
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: in this case, beating formation. This was one where my

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00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: my new operation that I'm doing, White Loadus sends I

614
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: flip over. It's in the fourth quarter and it's forty

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00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: something to night and I, well, no need to continue

616
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: with this and go to sleep. Yeah, by the way,

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00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: so you did. Last night was her Yellowstone Nights, right, Yeah,

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00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: kind of a non episode episode. Yeah, I you know,

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Speaker 1: other than the absurd to the of the fight at dinner,

620
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: which is just so stupid. Um, just absurd. We're gonna

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00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: stand outside and we're just gonna stand in front of

622
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: each other and exchange much just the stupidest thing I've

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Speaker 1: ever heard. Um, I didn't even I didn't mind it though,

624
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: because it was kind of like a day in the

625
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: life of the ranch, which I thought was kind of

626
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: They didn't advance any storyline, but in terms of like

627
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: how a branding or a round up works, they did

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00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: that to a t. And the last I think what

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Speaker 1: you got is like the last ten minutes you saw

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Speaker 1: why people fell in love with that show during the pandemic,

631
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: because it's like a bunch of cowboys saddling up horses

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00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: with the sun coming up and we're gonna ride out

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Speaker 1: and do beautiful things. I mean that was and everything

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Speaker 1: only happens in a two month period in Mont, very

635
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: short period. Yeah, we used to go to my uncle

636
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Speaker 1: Wayne's to brand and I remember to round up and

637
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Speaker 1: it was like that it was a two day deal.

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Speaker 1: And it was his house about forty five minutes from

639
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: where I grew up, and I remember like we had

640
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: to be there by five am, so my dad would

641
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: we'd get up at like three thirty. Dad was like, saddle,

642
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: let's get the horses saddled were trailer and him, let's go.

643
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: And we'd be there by between five and five thirty

644
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: on horseback before six to go get him. And it

645
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: was cold and awful, awful. It's amazing that you've done

646
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: this stuff. That really is incredible city slickers, not brutal

647
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: late games on Sunday and Week thirteen in the National

648
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: Football League. One thought from Bengals Chiefs Bengals seven, Chiefs

649
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: twenty four. If the playoffs started today, KEEC would be

650
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: the number two seed. They've dropped from number one without loss.

651
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: Tennessee still at the five Seed's a girl. One thought

652
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: from you, so's Buffalo the one Buffalo tiebreaker? Kansas City

653
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: their kryptonite the Bengals. Yeah, the Browns the kryptonite for

654
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: the Bengals as of recent history anyway, and therefore and

655
00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: therefore we're winning the Super Bowl. Incredible job by the

656
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: Bengals defense once again. And Burrow makes throws when he

657
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: needs to and and I don't know if this is

658
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: right or not, but it feels like it feels like

659
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: some g p Ryan is adding a little more to

660
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: their offense right now than Mixing has this year. That's

661
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: not surprising, is so Mixing hasn't been really right all year.

662
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: P Ryan's giving him something. It's amazing how long they've

663
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: held onto p Ryan, Like he's been there for a

664
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: really long time. Both Oklahoma guys. I think p Ryan proceeded.

665
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: I think he's even older than Mixing, you know you

666
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: if memory serves, I can't remember exactly, but they're both

667
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: Oklahoma guys. Um, this this thing comes down to. Um.

668
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: Burrow is incredibly clutch. Oh my goodness. He makes a

669
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: throw on third and eleven to t Higgins in the

670
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: size of a pinhole that if it doesn't, if it

671
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: falls incomplete and or if it's intercepted, Kansas City clearly wins.

672
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: Mahomes goes right down and you know they're gonna get points,

673
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: but he doesn't. He sticks it on him. They catch it.

674
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: Game over, we'll see you the next time out. Um,

675
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: He's He's stunning. I've I've been projecting this coming with

676
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: them for a couple of weeks. I've talked about them

677
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: about the way they're playing. They are really sturdy defensively,

678
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: and they did a lot of this without Chase and

679
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: now they have him back. He at seven including a

680
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: clutch clutch first down on the on that last drive

681
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: to extend the clock, keep the clock turning against Kansas City.

682
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: UH to me, Cincinnati, they feel like a team right

683
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: where they were a year ago and maybe even better.

684
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: That defense is nothing to uh to deal they did.

685
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: They suffocated Tennessee last week and then get the Kansas City.

686
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: They are good. Von Bell is good. Jermaine pratty guy.

687
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: We talked about a lot on this program. That was

688
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: a scrap heap guy like coming out of New Orleans.

689
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted him. It's been great for them. Sure he

690
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: was not as good this year. He is excellent. From

691
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: the a f C West, the Raid, They've won three

692
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: in a row. They are five and seven on the year.

693
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: They knock off Los Angeles and the Chargers. Chargers six

694
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: and six on the season. Bishop one thought from you

695
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: know who's leading the NFL and rushing Josh Jacobs better too, savvy,

696
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: he's leading him in rushing. Um. They he thought he

697
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: was gonna be another one of those first round picks.

698
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: He was on the scrap heat for them. He's rejuvenated

699
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: his career. Um, they've played really well, like three weeks

700
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: in a row, and and so and also shame on

701
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: me forever picking a team Brandon Stately coaches because they're

702
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: just incompeting. Offensive play calling is horrific. They are They

703
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: have Justin Herbert and he is special and they are terrible. Uh.

704
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: Davante Adams is ridiculous. Every single week he has been

705
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Finally he's been good. No, no, like they they had

706
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: trouble going to him. They lost a bunch of close

707
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. They've been good for about

708
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: three weeks now here others. Here's a little quiz question

709
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: for you. So do you guys know who the all

710
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: time receivings touchdown leader is? I know that you do.

711
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: That is, of course Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice the hundred

712
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: ninety seven. So number two is a random moss with

713
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: one fifty six. The active leader is Davante Adams. He's

714
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: in the eighties. That's something so Gibbe think about. He's

715
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: a hundred and ten away from Rice thirty years ago.

716
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: Today Rice broke the record from Steve Hart been in

717
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: the legal while thirty years ago. Today Rice broke the

718
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: record by Largent. He went a hundred one right. This

719
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: is his ninth season, and then he played twelve more

720
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: years and finished with one seven. DeVante is getting it

721
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: going though lately he's got forty. He's got forty one

722
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: and counting in the last three seasons. But Gibbe early

723
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: in the year, first game he had one forty one

724
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: in a touch then twelve yards and a touchdown, thirty

725
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: six and a touchdown, one oh one, four and to

726
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: ninety five no touchdown, three are no touchdown against the Saints,

727
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: and then he has been on fire of late and

728
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: two one against the Saints, seventy four no touchdown, and

729
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: then this week eight for one, seventy seven and two.

730
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: They've won three in a row. They're gonna look back

731
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: at the season and say, we should have beaten the

732
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: Chargers in Week one. They should have. They lost by

733
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: five there. We should have beaten Arizona in Week two.

734
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: We were big in that one. They lose that by six.

735
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: They lose, should have beaten the Titans. Week three, they

736
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: lose that one by two. They lose to the Chiefs

737
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: by one. They get blanked and abused by the Saints

738
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: twenty four nothing in one of the that was just

739
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: and that was an insane one. And then they lose

740
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville twenty followed by Indie twenty five to twenty.

741
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that they're like us,

742
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: many a lot of similarities. One to three, you have

743
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: five same record, five and seven Up next, guys, the

744
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: forty Niners beat Miami. It costs them a loft, though

745
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: the Dolphins uh lose thirty three to seventeen Miami On

746
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: the season now eight and fourty eight and four, and

747
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: they maintain a one game lead in the NFC West.

748
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: Pedro not Pedro. One thought two things, two things, two

749
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: things three Number one, nerd, how good is this defense?

750
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: We're all over to a nerd. I told you we're

751
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: so good. And it started the game started with seventy

752
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: yard touchdown on the I think the first player, first drive,

753
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: certainly first play from scrimmage, trencher Field from t A.

754
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: They shut him down three interceptions. He was rattled for

755
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: the first time all year. And then we've talked about

756
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: this defense to Meco Ryan's he's been incredible. But for

757
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: Brock Purty Mr Irrelevant to come in go twenty thirty

758
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: seven to ten, two touchdowns and one interception is absolutely

759
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: stunning against a very good Miami Dolphins defense. That's a shocker.

760
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: The question now is do they roll with Brock Purty?

761
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: What do do a quarterback? As you guys know, uh

762
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: from the from my time with Kyle, I've always described

763
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: him as a gangster. You're right. I think that he

764
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: might be the only true offensive genius coaching in the

765
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: National Football League. When he coaches against his former dudes,

766
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: he suffocates them La Fleur McDaniel McVeigh and he's always

767
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: got lesser. He feels like he's got lesser and they win.

768
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's he's got Brock Purty, for God's sakes.

769
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: He's a very average quarterback for Iowa State last year.

770
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: He's Mr Irrelevant by the way, first Mr Irrelevant to

771
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: ever throw a forward pass in the National Football League ever, ever,

772
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: let alone touchdown? How many of them have been quarterbacks?

773
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: Story today on Pro Football talking his Power Poll. He's

774
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: like a reason to be concerned if you're in Miami

775
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: after that game, and I'm like, no, you went up

776
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: against your mentor and your mentor smoked you know. Yes,

777
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: But confidence, as we know, is a big thing. And

778
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: and we'll we have to see how to will respond

779
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: to this. This is the first time that he was

780
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: inaccurate all year, was the first time he appeared to

781
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: be rattled all year, and so how does he respond

782
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: to that? Because they're not just gonna sleep walk to

783
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Oh no, very challenging anyway. Yes, Up

784
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: next from the NFC West, Seattle keeps pace with the

785
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners. They beat the Rams, the helpless

786
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: Rams to twenty three Zigura. One thought from you not

787
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: I love this the competitiveness, DK Metcalf talking trash to Ramsey.

788
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: Metcalf had a great game in this one. Bobby Wagner

789
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: did everything he could to take down his former team

790
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: on the RAM side of things. It's just incredible that

791
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: this is a Seahawks Rams, which has been recently with

792
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: Stafford Russell Wilson. Before that Goff who had taken the

793
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: RAM super Bowl. Russell Wilson that it was Gino Smith,

794
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: and I don't even know Wolford and then he got

795
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: knocked out wild, But Gino Smith's legit. The combination of

796
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: Lockett and Metcalf is legit, and the Seahawks are They're

797
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: kind of a fun team, fun team week. Each week.

798
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: They can go straight to hell, though, because they didn't cover,

799
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: and that's ridiculous. RAMS teams a joke like this RAMS

800
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: team is pathetic and they didn't cover, so I have

801
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: no use in giving them any more praise than that. Fine.

802
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: From the early games, one thought Week thirteen, Philly thirty

803
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: five Tennessee ten Titans fall to seven and five Philly

804
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: now eleven and one on the football season, Bishop one thought, yeah, um,

805
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: I just with with Philly. I was reserving to see

806
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: them play good teams because they haven't played too many

807
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: of them to this point. Um, I'm good now, Okay,

808
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: I've seen enough now, not the Tennessee some juggernaut they

809
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: played Dallas. I think in three weeks that will be

810
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: one when you really know. But but I've seen enough

811
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: now that I think this team has built confidenced amienst winning,

812
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: even if who they're beating isn't necessarily that impressive. Self

813
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: belief is a powerful thing, and they believe bigly, and

814
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a tough to stop. They're gonna be

815
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: what are they eleven and one? They're gonna be thirteen

816
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: and one when they played Dallas. They have the Giants

817
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: and then another garbage team between them and the playing

818
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: the Dallas game in a couple of weeks, they're gonna

819
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: be thirteen one and they play the Cowboys. Girl, the

820
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: Eagles are good. This was a beating of the Tennessee Titans,

821
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: and it it feels like Malik Willis we said it

822
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: earlier in the season, I think we're right, like, this

823
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: is a team that is no threat to win the

824
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, even if they end up winning their division,

825
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: which I think they will almost by default. They're not good.

826
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: You gotta see what you have there. And obviously the A. J.

827
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: Brown trade, we said at the time one of the

828
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: more idiotic trades I've ever seen here is GM fire today. Yeah,

829
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: I think today, Well, you saw the video that went

830
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: around of like ver Abel getting up and getting away

831
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: from the table. Left four rooms up next guys, real quick, lions,

832
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: forty juguars, fourteens, A girl. One thought the Lions are fun. Man,

833
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: They're kind of fun. Obviously, you know Trevor Lawrence goes

834
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: down escape to scary injury. But they were not good.

835
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: Golf was on fire in this one. UM three forty

836
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Amon ross at Brown, DeAndre Swift finally was

837
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: kind of used the way that you thought he would

838
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: be used. We didn't even really see. I think he

839
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: played what six snaps or round six routes? Got one

840
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: target Jamison and Williams. This is a fun team. And

841
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: this is a team that, let me throw this at you,

842
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: if Tom Brady says, you know what, I just want

843
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: to go play in a dome. Now, the Niners obviously

844
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense. But if not you dropped

845
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: Tom Brady into that division, I mean they could put

846
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: Stafford back there, then Stafford back somebody. This is a

847
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: ready team with a good quarterback. And I think off

848
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: Goff is fine, but he's if you look at his

849
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: dome and road splits, it's insane indoors, He's very good outdoors.

850
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: Not um, do you guys did we talk about this?

851
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: Do you guys know what they were gonna do with

852
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams. Do you guys see this? They were going

853
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: to use him as a gunner in his first game back,

854
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: and they got talked out of it. Yeah, the plan

855
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: from Dan Campbell is to use him as a gunner.

856
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: The first receiver? Was he the first receiver off the board?

857
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: Of the second? Was it Drake London first? Whatever was

858
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: top ten receiver pick? If he was healthy, would have

859
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: been the first. He's a burner. He's coming off a

860
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: catastrophic knee and his first game back, they were gonna

861
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: use him at gunner and then they got talked out

862
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: of it. They just need some buddy up there to say, dude,

863
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: you don't have to eat raw meat every day. Just

864
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: chill out, mixing a salad taste. That's all you gotta do.

865
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: Because they've got everything else. They're really close and they're

866
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: not out of it in the postseason because of how

867
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: crazy the NFC is. Alright, guys, we gotta hurry this

868
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: up a little bit. Is the girl? One thought from

869
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: you Packers Bears nineteen Christian Watson is living up to

870
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: the hype. It took a while, and sometimes that's okay

871
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: because now he's on fire and he has been electric

872
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: for the Packers and he's somebody the Browns were interested,

873
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: and you think he'd boy, he'd looked pretty nice as

874
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: a compliment to our other guys. First time in NFL

875
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: history somebody other than the Bears is the all time

876
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: winning his franchise. It's appropriate that the Packers would do it.

877
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: Rogers does not lose to them. This is the easiest

878
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: pick of the week, or one of them for me.

879
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: Packer is not dead just yet. Vikings Jets two. One thought, Um,

880
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I'll go the Jet side of this. I

881
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this stuff from Garrett Wilson

882
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: post game, like they're done with Sack Wilson. It's unreal

883
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: done like that dude turned everybody off there. I mean,

884
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: Mike White wasn't great. You can write a hell of

885
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: an episode of White Lotus, but he wasn't great. They lost,

886
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: but they still where it got his back? Uh is

887
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: the girl? One thought from you Ravens ten, Broncos nine gutless,

888
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: big loss from lam Lamar could be a couple of weeks.

889
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: It's won three, but I mean, come on, Broncos, can

890
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: you stop? You've stopped them all day? Suck suck, terrible,

891
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: horrible as boots, he would say. One thought Steelers not

892
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: dead either. Squealers nineteen Falcon sixteen. It makes me sick.

893
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: But they have culture like they're not capable of bottoming.

894
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: They just they're not gonna be I don't know if

895
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna get to five hundred. I don't think that

896
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: they will. But they just will not bottom out. And

897
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: they just have so much belief in who they are

898
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: that they play hard every week. This was a relative

899
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: easy pick two for that reason. By the way, that'll

900
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: be a big one this week. Ravens visiting the Squealers.

901
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: UH final one commis twenty giants, twenty overtime. Honestly, really

902
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: we can we just get rid. Or if you want

903
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: to start with a thirty yard field, goalt sixty sixty

904
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: five till somebody wins. It's really easy. Something do the

905
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: college over time, turn off the stats. That's it. That's

906
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,479
Speaker 1: all you gotta do. That solves it. Then you get

907
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: rested to you can't have that too much goes into

908
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: a game for a tie. Absolutely, there's a new aided

909
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,520
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Speaker 1: Little Better or Worse Jeremiah Woostu Coramoa as well as

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916
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Speaker 1: exclusions may apply. Pop quiz for the two of you,

923
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: who has the most touchdown passes in a two year

924
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: span of thirty yards or more this century? Which quarterback

925
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: a two years two year span most thirty yard plus

926
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: touchdown passes in a two year span since the year

927
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: two thousand homes give it. I guess it's gonna end

928
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: up being Burrow. But my guess Burrow with two second

929
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: on the list is Dante Culpepper thanks to random. Third

930
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: is Peyton Manning and tied for third is Eli Manning.

931
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: Those are your top four Plexico Burrows, Odell Beckham Jr.

932
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: Help with a lot of use. Yeah Manning with Reggie

933
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: and Marvin Harrison. But but Burrow has the most twenty

934
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: two of them of thirty yards or more for a team.

935
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: We'll see this Sunday. Hello Gibbe higher lower, Hi lower presented,

936
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Speaker 1: better keep it fun, Ohio from the Ohio Lottery who

937
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Speaker 1: reminds you to know the risks before you gamble. Uh.

938
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Speaker 1: This compliments of NFL dot Com and Dan Hens's first

939
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: and foremost. He has your Cleveland Browns at number twenty.

940
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: A couple of teams in front of us include the Patriots,

941
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and the Lions. Behind us the Packers, the

942
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: Squealers and the Cardinals. Should they be higher, lower, or

943
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: just right, the girl will lead you off here. I

944
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: mean we are what we are. I'd like to think

945
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: that in a in a game right now, we'd be

946
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: favored over the Lions. But the fact is we've lost

947
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: to the Chargers. We lost to the Patriots head to head.

948
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: We're a different team now. We did just beat the

949
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: Buccaneers two weeks ago, who are ahead of us on

950
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: this list. So I mean, I think that we're probably

951
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: in the range we should be in the you know,

952
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty range one range, so we're properly ranged.

953
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: I think that though you can make the case we

954
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: should be a little bit better, but we've gotta we've

955
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: got to prove that consistently we'll get a chance. I

956
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: just do not understand or continue to understand the New

957
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: England Patriots and the love and the past that they

958
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: whipped us though here fine whipped us fine and not

959
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: a good football team they're not, But like that was

960
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: one of the most That one was rock bottom for me.

961
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: I know other ones were more painful in the way

962
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: that they ended, but that was so dispiriting that game,

963
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: UM against against New England. I think we would be

964
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: an underdog if we played Green Band a neutral field

965
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: right now. I think that will probably be the case,

966
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: to be close, close, two or three, something like that.

967
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: UM Arizona, who I think sucks? Um. I think what's

968
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: us in Pittsburgh. I mean, we'd be favored for sure,

969
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: but is it it's probably not much. We gotta do it, man,

970
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: we gotta I agree. We gotta go. We gotta go

971
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: do it. We gotta go. We gotta stack them. You know,

972
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: we haven't looked good on both sides of the ball

973
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: since the Boroughs. It's the Bengals game, and that one

974
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: was kind of on an island by the way. Speaking

975
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: of that, Uh, the ESPN Power Pol Power Paul came

976
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: out today as well. They've got Pittsburgh nineteen. They have

977
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: US twenty three. Yeah, come on, trotter, the hell's going on? Yeah?

978
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: That's terrible. Yeah. Next, the Eagles come in at number

979
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: one of the Dallas Cowboys are number two, the Bengals

980
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: at number three. Bow Bishop higher, lower or just right?

981
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: So okay, this always comes back to what's your philosophy

982
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: on one of these is who you think is? Is

983
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: this the team? How you think they'd play if they

984
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: were in the Super Bowl right now, or how they

985
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: played this week. It appears that Dan is rewarding for

986
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: what they did this week, and if that is the case,

987
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: then Cincinnati should be two, not three, so they should

988
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: be higher. They beat Kansas City Kansas City and lost

989
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: in seven games and was playing the best football in

990
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: the league. Dallas beat a brutal Indie team whipped him,

991
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: acknowledge it, but the fourth quarter, Yeah, and then it

992
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 1: got out of trol. But like you know, if you're

993
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: just doing it that way, Now, do I think Sinceinnat's

994
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl? No, probably not. I think

995
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: they got a shot. But if you're basic it, it

996
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: looks to me like he's doing this very week to week.

997
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, then I have since any higher.

998
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: I'd have them too. Behind Philly, I would agree with you.

999
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: I'd put them higher right now. We'll see what happens

1000
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: when they play us, But yeah, I think i'd put

1001
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: them at two Philly, Buffalo, Dallas, the Bengals, and the Chiefs.

1002
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: To me, those five are in their own area. Now

1003
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: you'd say to me, but Nathan, the Vikings beat the Bills,

1004
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: and they did, but I still feel like on a

1005
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: neutral field those five would all be favored over the Vikings.

1006
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: The Niners are the team that had a chance, and

1007
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm still I think the Dolphins still are a very

1008
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: good and very dangerous football team. I would have I

1009
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: like what you did there because I think I'm with you.

1010
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: I think there are five teams that are gonna win

1011
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and it's Philly, Dallas, Cincinnati, Buffalo, in

1012
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: Kansas City. I would have had Miami. I would have

1013
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: had San Francisco in it, for sure, had Garoppolo not

1014
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: got hurt, they would have been the sixth. Miami is

1015
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: right on that cusp, because there were I'm with you,

1016
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: there were some wrinkles with two of it were a

1017
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: little concerning. How he responds will be very important. Next

1018
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 1: number four the Buffalo Bills. Number five is Kansas City.

1019
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: Number six is Minnesota. Number seven the Forts a girl

1020
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: higher lower, just right. He's got Tennessee too. I don't

1021
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: know if you're getting into that. Tennessee is way too high.

1022
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: I was responding to my host. I was looking at

1023
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: the teams around him, because I always want to know, like,

1024
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: who are you, who are you putting? How far can

1025
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: you drop them? They just beat Miami with Brock. Now

1026
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: you gotta them there. But Brock Purty is disconcerning. The

1027
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: thing is about it is once you get after this

1028
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: top eight, I think it falls off a cliff. Tennessee,

1029
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: the Jets, the Ravens, Seattle, the Commies, the Giants, the Raiders,

1030
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: I think it falls off a major cliff. They're still

1031
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: in that group because their defense is so dominant. Um,

1032
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: but it's who knows brock party. By the way, David

1033
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: a joke on Instagram today saying back to your regularly

1034
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: scheduled programming, hinting that he will be back for the

1035
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: Browns this week, as we told you a little earlier.

1036
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: So give me the last Super Bowl contender, and I

1037
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: think they've always been, especially I mean when they get

1038
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: McCaffrey goes to a a whole another level. Give me the

1039
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: last Super Bowl contended that lost two starting quarterbacks for

1040
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: the year in the same year, Lance Garoppolo none zero,

1041
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: They only have They only had two on their roster

1042
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: last week, Garoppolo and Purty. Who the hell was the

1043
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: emergency quarterback when Garoppolo went down? Then No, probably probably McCaffrey.

1044
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: But it just runs, Yeah, probably just run some kind

1045
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: of that's crazy reed option wildcat offen. They would have

1046
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: probably ram was to say they would have been good

1047
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: doing it. I mean it's crazy, all right. The Dolphins eight,

1048
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: the Titans nine, the Jets at ten, Rhett Birds at

1049
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: number eleven, Bishop High or lower? Just right? Do you

1050
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: think we should you brought this up earlier in the week.

1051
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: I think should we move the trade deadline. Yes, back, Like,

1052
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: if you're San Franci, two weeks at least, I think

1053
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: right now? Why not right now? Yeah? Like if you're

1054
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Speaker 1: if you give have a late season injury and you've

1055
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: got a ready made team, you should be able to

1056
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: make a deal. The penalty is what the penalty is

1057
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: like in terms of you're going to feel like you're close. Yeah,

1058
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Rat Birds eleven and I think they're

1059
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: better than Tennessee right now, even without knowing what's going

1060
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: on with Lamar. They're not great. Um they you want

1061
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: to talk about easy schedule, I mean they might play

1062
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: they got nothing. They're gonna play Cincinnati at the end.

1063
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: I'll say this, all of a sudden, the Pittsburgh games

1064
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: aren't gimmes. This is some of the especially, Yeah, some

1065
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: of this stuff in here is really Some of these

1066
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: games in here are really brutal. Some of these teams.

1067
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, um, Baltimore is they're eight and four, so

1068
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: you have to give him credit for that. They get

1069
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: they they've won most of their tough games. Here's how

1070
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: they finish at Pittsburgh at US Falcons at home, Steelers

1071
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: at home at Bengals. That's their last five games. We're

1072
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a full day for them. Pittsburgh shouldn't be,

1073
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: but it might end up being. And then at Cincinnati

1074
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: should have determined the division. I bet it does. Probably

1075
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football, Probably that I would one, Uh, final one,

1076
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: you're just taking the rest of the segment off. Frustrated

1077
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: by the Baltimore I'm just so frustrating that we're in

1078
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: this position. Boy, Cincinnati's got us at Bucks at Patriots,

1079
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: Bills at home, Ravens at home. It if Baltimore lost

1080
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: at Denver, I would have felt so much better. But

1081
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: now if we win the next two, we beat the Bengals,

1082
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: beat the Ravens, we get to seven and seven with

1083
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: the Saints, the Commies and the Steelers left, and we

1084
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: have at that point we would be four and one

1085
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: in the division. You'd feel pretty good. And this one

1086
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: can springboard you. This you have, this is this is it,

1087
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is a playoff game. You

1088
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: win this, you're in. Now you're kind of dangerous and

1089
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: lose this. It's over at that point, all right, I

1090
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: got about sixty seconds left here. Uh number two with

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00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: Houston number thirty one, would you put the Rams the

1092
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: Broncos or the Colts. Who's the second worst team in

1093
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: the NFL? Current Rams? Yeah ahead. I don't think the

1094
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: current Rams are capable of beating anybody that's constructed. Now, Um,

1095
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: Indy still has Jonathan Jonathan Taylor. Well, Denver do then

1096
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: they just beat somebody last week? Did they win last week?

1097
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: They want a weird game? I thought they just Denver

1098
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: lost to the Ravens now the week before. I mean,

1099
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Now they've lost four in a row and

1100
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: they're dreadful. Yeah, they do suck. Yeah, maybe I'm confusing

1101
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: losing with covering. I think they've covered a couple of row. Yeah,

1102
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: that's it. Oh my god. Yeah they lost to Carolina. Grossness.

1103
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: That's why I'm no, they suck. Those teams are brutal,

1104
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: all four of those. So right now, the Lions are

1105
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: picking second overall from the ra Ms and the Seahawks

1106
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: are picking fourth. What are they picking fourth or fifth overall?

1107
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: Gotta be a top five? Has Denver is struggle? Yeah,

1108
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: they're They're three and nine, so they're gonna Seattle is

1109
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: gonna get pick of the litter. Remember we said they

1110
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: were tanking to get C. J. Stroud. They don't even

1111
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: need to Denver tanked for him, all right. Jeremiah Woosi

1112
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Speaker 1: here's Jeremiah Wakormo at the podium. Hey, Jeremiah coaches told

1134
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: us that he's off for the year with the torn

1135
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: a c l. UM. Just how disappointing is that for

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01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: you guys, especially how well he's been playing. Um. Yeah,

1137
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: man's disappointing. Every time you know, we get we we

1138
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: hear of you know one of our teammates that we've

1139
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: gone through. UM, you know, much g much effort, many hours,

1140
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: many minutes with UM go down. Um, but you know,

1141
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: the only is is a higher energy guy. I don't

1142
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: no matter what occurs, and no matter what happens, I'm

1143
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: sure you don't continue to see him around the facility,

1144
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: continue to see him around the linebacker room, energetic on

1145
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: the sidelines. UM, if they allow them to, uh, you know,

1146
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: being involved continuously open us out with our calls and

1147
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: fits and everything. UM. It's a disappointing, but um, you

1148
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: know we have to play the cars that's been dealt

1149
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: to us personal wise, how do you go about? Um,

1150
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: filling the void when that's the third middle lineback you've lost. Oh,

1151
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: personnel wise, I mean, I mean we all can um.

1152
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: You know, we're in the NFL. My job is to

1153
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: to fill in uh and do what the coaches required

1154
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: us to do. Um and the personal wise will make

1155
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: the changes, will justin. We'll see what comes out of it. Jeremiah,

1156
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: he mentioned that will probably be back with you guys

1157
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: and talking with you, and you're not gonna lose that

1158
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: part of him in the locker room. But is there

1159
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: something about what he's been able to do this season

1160
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: that you think we'll stick with you guys in terms

1161
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: of on the field, something you've taken away from his

1162
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: efforts so far this year. He's a large communicator, um,

1163
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: you know, no matter whether he's at Sam uh or

1164
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: Mike um old will you know, he's a large communicator

1165
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: and he's able to um, you know, get the guys

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01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: in line. He's also a guy that watches a lot

1167
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: of film too, So yeah, in that aspect, yea, Jeremiah. No,

1168
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: yesterday it was a bit of a coming out for

1169
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: Tony Fields. But you've been around him now for a

1170
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: little while. Just what did that mean to the room

1171
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: to see him step in and he's really had an

1172
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: expanded role here recently. What that means to see him

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01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: go out there and make a lot of plays. Man,

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01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: I knew when me and Tone came in that he

1175
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: was gonna be a guy that that that took off

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01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: at some point. Um, you know about just the way

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01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: he plays and played in college, I thought I thought

1178
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: he played pretty similar to me and on this on

1179
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: this tape. Um, and you know, with his aggression and

1180
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: his ability to get from point A to point B

1181
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 1: and just be instinctive. So he's shown that the last

1182
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: two games and and really all season on special teams

1183
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: doing this thing. So uh, you know, I I'm looking

1184
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: forward to seeing what what comes out of that. I

1185
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: already am. And then, do you guys feel like you're

1186
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: starting to get rolling a little bit? You know, we

1187
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: talked to you after the Tampa game and just kind

1188
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: of the excitement that you guys played your best game

1189
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 1: where you're starting to stack him a little bit here.

1190
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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you guys are starting to get

1191
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: some things rolling here? Oh? I mean you know, I

1192
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: mean you guys can see, um, you know what progress

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01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 1: you're starting to make. You know, stopping around a little

1194
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: bit more um been you know, having a high intent

1195
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: to be able to take away the ball. Um, and

1196
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Speaker 1: this is wanting to communicate more, wanted to be around

1197
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: the guys more, wanting to beat together more. Um, you know,

1198
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Speaker 1: wanted to to stop the offense, you know, to have

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Speaker 1: that pride and have that cleaning on your chest and

1200
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: really represented. So we're getting into the flow. Um. You know,

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01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that we're there area yet. Uh, you know,

1202
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say that we're close yet. You know,

1203
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: I think we're just getting started. And as time goes,

1204
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, you'll see things start to continue to progress,

1205
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: they enjoy. Okay, you go from that facing that Texas

1206
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: offense which hasn't had much success, to uh the Bengals

1207
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Speaker 1: next week. So what kind of challenge does Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: in that game present you? Oh? First and foremost, I mean,

1209
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: are are you know when teams look at our film

1210
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Speaker 1: and they believe that our weak point is the run game?

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Speaker 1: And um, Texas, the Texas didn't have a good run game.

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Speaker 1: You asked me a really nice running back, really nice

1213
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: scheme actually, um, you know, to the run game. And

1214
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Speaker 1: the Beagles also do have a run game, I believe

1215
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: it or not. Um, you know, Nixon is a pretty

1216
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: um you know, similar running back as as three one.

1217
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: So um, we'll see a lot of you know, uh

1218
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: not different looks. But you know, the Texans do more

1219
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: I candy at us. Um. You know, the being was

1220
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: are more of a you know, um, you know what

1221
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing, now stop me type of te Uh. So

1222
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: they're not gonna try to you know, be too difficult

1223
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: with you know, trying to fool you him fool you're there.

1224
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: But I think our team that you know, it's very

1225
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: proful on what they do. Um. Barrow is very proful

1226
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: and what they do what he does. Um, so you

1227
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: know we'll be looking to see what comes out of it. Yeah, true, Okay,

1228
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: just wondering how do you feel about the state of

1229
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Speaker 1: the linebacking corps right now with you know, with with

1230
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Speaker 1: Talkie out and you know, Tony emerging a little bit,

1231
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: you're back from your injury. Where are you guys now

1232
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: at linebackers a group? Yeah, but it was a time

1233
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: pleasure everything. Uh, you know, last night, I'm sure some

1234
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: of the guys celebrated, but also some of the guys

1235
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: more um, a little bit, you know, just because we

1236
01:06:55,720 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: lost another essential piece uh to our our puzzle. So um,

1237
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: like I said, it's it's a compartmentalization. Able to understand um,

1238
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, uh, the time and the place, um, and

1239
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: the energy that needs to be giving. Um. You know

1240
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: when we talked the top, you know, we may give

1241
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: him high energy and we may you know, console with

1242
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: him when we're talking to the rest of the guys,

1243
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: we may do the same thing. UM. So it's just

1244
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: about you know, understanding balance and really understanding how we

1245
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: can um you know, apply the necessary mood, the necessary

1246
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 1: motion of the necessary energy to that time and place.

1247
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: So he Jeremiah. UM, when you look at how Deshaun performed,

1248
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: I know everybody knew to be some kind of rust.

1249
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: Is there still a large sense of optimism that he'll

1250
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: be able to become his formerself and do it in

1251
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: a hurry with the Bengals game coming up? Yeah, yeah,

1252
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: there's no there's no doubt about the Shan's performance. I

1253
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: don't think, Um, I truly believe that you know he's

1254
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: still at that quarterback that um, he's that a lead guy,

1255
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: I profound guy. UM. You know we've seen him again.

1256
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: We talked about you know, you know, facing him from

1257
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: the defensive aspect. You know, you're still tough and I

1258
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: mean played, but been off the field. I think somebody

1259
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: says seven hundred players or seven hundred days. Yeah, seven

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Speaker 1: hundre the to day. So I mean, um, yeah, I'm

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01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing what happens, you know what I mean.

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01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, saying, oh, you know he's about

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01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: to be the number one quarterback now, but he's gonna

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01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: perform well, I know it, Um, just about what I've seen.

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01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a great quarterback here for us, and

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01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be here a long time, so

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01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: you're used to We talked about momentum and in terms

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: of the takeaways that the defense aims to get. You know,

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01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: you get one, the next ones come. Do you feel

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01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: that in terms of in a game setting, if you

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01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: maybe miss attackle you go back and get it. Do

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01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 1: you feel that momentum building? How does that play out

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01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 1: for you when you're out on the field. Yeah, I

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01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: mean for me, you know, I I'll be just trying

1275
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: to do my job at the end of the day.

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01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: So you know, if you know, I miss a tackle,

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01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: if I miss a fit you know, I'm um wanted

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01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: to go back to the sideline to correct that, but

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01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 1: I do gott to forget about it at the time. Um.

1280
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: But again, the success of the defense is the success

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01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: of of myself as well. So I'm a part of

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01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: the defense. And when the defense succeeds, Um, I sec

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01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: advice versus so. UM. You know, I didn't play the

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01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: best that I think I could have, um, you know yesterday,

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01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: but the defense did play well. So um much love

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Speaker 1: much lawyer, And let's keep going, you know, let's get

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Speaker 1: a I'm just noticing that we got through better or worse.

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01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: We're supposed to go to break. I know clearly, you

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01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: just roll right through the stop sign. What stops? Charles

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Speaker 1: Robinson's up next, Fine, where's a p That's what I

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Speaker 1: want to know? Is he decking because of his tribut

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Speaker 1: He got six and well bench he said, we can

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Speaker 1: talk to you can truck talk your trash next week? Fine?

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Speaker 1: All wait with the victory will last that long? All right?

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Speaker 1: NFL Senior reporter for Yeah Who, Charles Robinson joins us, Charles,

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01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure The last time we talked was in camp.

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01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: It was really hot, and at that point we were

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01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: looking at trying to understand if it was a four

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01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: to six game suspension, not sure what it was going

1319
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: to be. Ends up being eleven. You end up it

1320
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: comes full circle because you're at the game on Sunday.

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01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: What a strange journey this has been, My friend, How

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Speaker 1: does how do you put all of that time into perspective? Well? Uh,

1323
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think the perspective was on the field,

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01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: you know. I think, uh we saw a quarterback who

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01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: had seven hundred plus days between competitive you know football plays,

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01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: um who had the you know, I don't know when

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01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: Kevin Stavansky talked afterward and there was where jittery came

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01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: up about the Shawan I don't to me. You go

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01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: back into Houston, he sees you know, X teammates, Uh

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01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: there on the sidelines is warming up, you know, sees

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01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: kel McNair goes through that whole thing. It just the

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01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: whole atmosphere itself, lent um. I think lent to having

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01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: a kind of a subpar uneven game, even if there

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Speaker 1: wasn't a seven hundred day um break in between, Like

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01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: I said, competitive football so it was I think we

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01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 1: kind of everybody got what they were going to get regardless,

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01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: It's just this is how he was gonna look. And

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01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: I think the bigger deal now is what does he

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01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: look like the next game out? You know, now that

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01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: this is behind him. And I do feel like that's real,

1341
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: getting not only the suspension behind him, but getting the

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01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: stepping on the field in Houston, that being the first

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01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: game back behind him. Um, it's more there's a little

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01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 1: more of a sense of normalcy, I guess this week

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01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: than there would have been last week. But I'll also

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01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: say this, I will bet you he faces a much

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01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: more um enthusiastic greeting or unenthusiastic greeting against the Bangles

1348
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: than he did in Houston. Houston, it was just sheer

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01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: apathy surrounding him. Other than the Browns fan. I don't

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01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: think that's going to be the case against the Bengals. Yeah.

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01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: I have to run into Charles and the elevator on

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01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 1: the way up to the press box down there in Houston,

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01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: and yeah, you're right, it was. It was a kind

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01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,560
Speaker 1: of a surreal environment, a very strange game. Obviously, the

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01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: Browns went down there to win. They did that it

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Speaker 1: gets a lot tougher now, and you mentioned what's it

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01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna look like, Charles, Don't you think it's gotta be

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01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: a lot better from Deshaun Watson to have any chance

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Speaker 1: against this Bengals team? And where would you put the

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Speaker 1: Bengals right now in the a f C or even

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Speaker 1: in the NFL at large? Oh, I don't think there's

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01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: any questions. It's gotta play a lot better. Um, you

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Speaker 1: know it's I think to me, you know, when he

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Speaker 1: microcos him in that game of sort of, it felt

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01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: like there was that moment where they're trying to engineer

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Speaker 1: some some sort of easy passes. Let's see if we

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01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: can get them into a flow. And I don't remember

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01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: if it was Chub or if it was cream Hunt,

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01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: but there was that throw into the flat where he

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Speaker 1: skipped it. Yeah, and I was like, yeah, that's like

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Speaker 1: you're even at that point, you know, the staff you

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01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 1: can see like Kevin Stefanci's like, let me try to

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01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: let me try to just get him an easy one,

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01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, let's try to make this see if we

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01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 1: can just get this moving. And that was the result,

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01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: and you know you can't. That's a pretty bad sign.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's sort of the Okay, this

1378
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be more of a journey over the course

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Speaker 1: of the remainder of the season, getting him into a flow.

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Speaker 1: Then then and I remember, I mean it's a terrible

1381
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: Houston Texans team, so it's it's you're right. I mean,

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01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to be far closer to what he

1383
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: was at the end of his career in Houston then

1384
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: he was at the start of his career as really

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01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: around uh and Cincinnati is they're rolling. I mean there,

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Speaker 1: I think from a confident standpoint, it was interesting, Joe

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01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: Burrow said, I think was it was like two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: He said, like he feels them getting into that groove

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01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: that they got into late last season where they were

1390
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: just hitting green lights all the way, everything was breaking

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01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: their way, everything was going right, and then they go

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01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: out and they beat the Chiefs. I mean, there's nothing

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01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: to suggest that he's wrong. They're hitting their stride. You know,

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01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase comes back in looks decent, you know, probably,

1395
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: but I mean Jamar Chase is pretty darn good. Higgins.

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01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: I mean, see, Higgins stepped into the number one wide

1397
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: receiver role and was like, look, at no problem, and

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01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: so it's you know, they've got their hands full of

1399
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: the defense. It's nice that the defense is coming off

1400
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: of a game that should give them some confidence because

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01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna need it against Cincinnati and they're really going

1402
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: to have to continue to play that role while Deshaun

1403
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: Watson works out the kinks as as they moved forward. Charles,

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01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Sunday for a second

1405
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: with you. Um, you mentioned apathy. I believe it was

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01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: the word you used to kind of describe the situation,

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01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: uh down in Houston. So I wasn't there. You guys

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01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: were both there. The way that it was portrayed on

1409
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: the broadcast and the way that the booing made it

1410
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: seem like it was a raucous crowd and he was

1411
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: being fed to the lions and there was this booing

1412
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: like that wasn't the booing wasn't. I mean, but if

1413
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: you just watched it on television, it was a very

1414
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: different story that was told. So when I hear you

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01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: say the apathy, and I and Nathan said that when

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01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: he came back on Monday, Um, why does why why

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01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: not just let it be? And that it wasn't full

1418
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: or even remotely full, right, that's the other part of it. Yeah,

1419
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: it was. I mean it was what was interesting. I

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01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,759
Speaker 1: think by halftime you got to the point where whoever

1421
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: was going to be there was there, and it was like,

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01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: to me, eyeballing it against this is not scientific. It

1423
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 1: looked like a capacity situation. It was spread out. It

1424
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: was sort of like, oh, if you jammed everybody into

1425
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: lower bowl, you probably still that and seven rows up

1426
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: the second bowl. But I mean it was, you know,

1427
01:16:54,600 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: definitely was closer to hassle than anything else. And um,

1428
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: to me, it was. It was interesting because I heard

1429
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: Mike Florio stay on the Sunday night football broadcast where

1430
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 1: he said, like Deshaun Watson was booed like every single time,

1431
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: like he he you know, and I was like, that's

1432
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: just not I mean, I mean, no abuse the mic.

1433
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: I like, Mike, look, we're friends, but it just it

1434
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: was a situation where early in the game, when he

1435
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: went to the line of scrimmage, You're like, you hear

1436
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: the booze, You're like, okay, that's for him for sure.

1437
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: Then I think as you kind of got out of

1438
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: the first quarter, it was like, Okay, this is more

1439
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 1: average garden variety football booing. You know, it's just it's

1440
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't the it wasn't thunderous. Well, I didn't even

1441
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: think it was that um field level. It sounded loud,

1442
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: but I think it was just sort of I don't

1443
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 1: know if it's the acoustics of it, hear what it was,

1444
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: but it just was not that kind of environment. It

1445
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: was weird to see it portrayed is at because I'm like,

1446
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: you know when you stood outside that to me, my

1447
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: focal point at the beginning was let me see what

1448
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: this looks like outside. Showed up early. I'm like, nobody

1449
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: even here. Nobody here. There's no protests, there's no I mean,

1450
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 1: there were tons of people coming in with Houston Texas

1451
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: jerseys with the number four on the Watson like it

1452
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: was um it was almost in a weird way, it

1453
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: felt like like an international exhibition game. I mean, I'm like,

1454
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: there's a Blake Bortles jersey. There's like it was like,

1455
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, Dak Prescott jersey. It was like all these

1456
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 1: different jerseys. All the fans are congregating together, like Texans fans,

1457
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: brown Sands are taking pictures together. Like it just didn't

1458
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: materialize into this circus that I thought it could. And

1459
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: then when you went inside, I tweeted out two pictures.

1460
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: One I think it was twenty five minutes for the game.

1461
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: When was that kickoff? It was just totally sparse. There

1462
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: wasn't anybody there. And I thought another key moment that

1463
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: no one really saw when when the game ended, you know,

1464
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 1: I went on the field and I stood there and

1465
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: I watched him, you know, signed some some jerseys for

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Speaker 1: some of his former Texans teammates. As you ran off,

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01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: nobody was in the building except for I mean, it

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01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: looked like, you know, maybe two thousand Browns fans who

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01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:09,719
Speaker 1: stuck it out, we're down around their tunnel um. And

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01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: if you just saw that, and I think Albert Brier

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01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: might have actually taken video of it, it looked like

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01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: him running off the field like in this heroic fashion

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01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: where everybody, yeah, it's like this. It was just not

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01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: at all. I felt like people who were characterizing it

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01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: were not necessarily people who were there. And if you

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01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: were there, and you know, we were there, it was

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01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,879
Speaker 1: a completely different experience. And and I'm telling you Cincinnati

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01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: gonna be way different. I think Cincinnati is the one

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01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: where I could see it being um far more hostile

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01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: than it was in Houston. Yeah, I think, well, first

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01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: of all, there's real heat in the sense that Joe

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01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: Burrow has never beaten the Browns for whatever reason. They say,

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01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: styles make fights. The Browns have just had a lot

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01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,839
Speaker 1: of success against him. And yeah, I think there's earlier

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01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 1: this year, right, I mean earlier this year. I think

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01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: they got come piste off about that. So, yeah, smoked

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01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: him on Monday Night Football, so that'll be interesting. But yet,

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01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: to your point, just to kind of tie the bow

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01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: on this, it felt to me like the crowd was

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01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: fifty fifty Browns Texans or close to it, and of

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01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: the Texans fans, it felt like a decent amount of

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01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,759
Speaker 1: those were there in Watson Jersey. So it was really

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01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: a minority that would have been there to be anti

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01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: Watson if there weren't in When he came on the

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01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: field before the game, it was all cheers, but it

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01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: was all the Browns fans that were in the building

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01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 1: at that time that the Browns fans. The Browns fans

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01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 1: had gotten in into the into the stadium early and

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01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 1: they're clearly just you know, watching him warm up. And yeah,

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01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't um. It was funny because initially, even initially,

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01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: I was surprised, and you know, initially that first quarter

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01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 1: of the first series, the boost, you know, you're like, okay, wow,

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01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: there's some decent boost for the number of people were here.

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01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: And I made the joke like I'm sitting there with

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01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: with a couple of other people, and I was like,

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01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: are they pumping in like b roll of a previous

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01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: Davis Mills start the boost the home crowd booing b role.

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01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: But um, they did on the broadcast. For sure they

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01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 1: did on the broadcast. I can tell you. At home,

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01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: I thought it seemed like it was raucus and it was,

1511
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, being fed to the lions like at the Colosseum,

1512
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: Like it was crazy. Yeah, it's so weird because being there,

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01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: it was a completely completely different experience. And I don't

1514
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: really know what the answer is for that other than

1515
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: you know it just if you were there. It did

1516
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: not feel it all the way it was portrayed on

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01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: TV or or the way people talked about it. Who

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01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 1: clearly to me, I was like, oh, well, they weren't there.

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01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: If they had been there, they know this. This wasn't

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01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: nearly what it was made out to be. Charles A

1521
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: couple more minutes with Charles Robinson are good, buddy, Senior

1522
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,640
Speaker 1: NFL reporter at Yahoo. Um, I want to ask you

1523
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: about the forty nine situation at quarterback with Garoppolo. Two

1524
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks go down in a year. I to me,

1525
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 1: they look like the Super Bowl team out of the

1526
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 1: NFC until this one happens. Now Brock Purty thrust in.

1527
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: There is there anything else they can do? What? What

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01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: do you anticipate? If anything them doing here are they're

1529
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: just gonna roll with Mr Irrelevant who looked pretty good

1530
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: in his in his one one game. Yeah, I don't

1531
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: you know. Obviously there's this there's been talk about Baker Mayfield.

1532
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. That to me is such an odd

1533
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: I feel like Kyle Shannon has said some good things

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01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: about Baker in the past. I remember being in front

1535
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: of Kyle and hearing him say some stuff about just

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01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: sort of how Baker carried himself, things he'd liked about

1537
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 1: his attitude, whatever. Um, I don't know that that that's

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01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: I guess personally, honestly, I'd be surprised if they claimed him. Um,

1539
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: even if you know he made it to their their

1540
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: kind of waiver claim slot. I'd be surprised if if

1541
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: they took him just only because you're talking about um

1542
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: a short period of time. You're talking about as you said,

1543
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: Brock pretty has been I know he's, you know, a

1544
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 1: young guy, you know, but it's still he's been in

1545
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: the passing program, he knows the offense at this point.

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01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: It's not I mean, if he was in college, he'd

1547
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: be going into a sophomore year at a stage you know. Um,

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01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 1: It's like, it just doesn't seem to make a lot

1549
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: of sense that they're going to go out and grab

1550
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: somebody who you know. You feel like you're gonna have

1551
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: to finesse it and work with it and try to

1552
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: get him familiar in some chemistry. It just you're almost

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01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 1: I think with Purty you're almost better rolling with what

1554
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: you got. And by the way, I will say this

1555
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: about Kyle Um in terms of getting someone ready to

1556
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: go quickly, I think he struggles more with guys who

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01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: have a tendency to believe their athletes and want to

1558
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: run around and do off script stuff or make off

1559
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: schedule throws, or maybe in like in Baker's case, thinks

1560
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: he's a little bit better an athlete than he is

1561
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 1: at this stage, whereas like Purty, I think Purdy is

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01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,640
Speaker 1: just gonna do what Kyle tells him, you know, like

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01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna throw it where you

1564
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: throw it where you're telling me to throw it to him,

1565
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: and to check down one I need to check down.

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01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna run the offense and let the guys

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01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: around me do what they gotta do. I think Kyle's like, cool,

1568
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: let's just roll at that and and see where this goes.

1569
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: So um uh, it's it's wild because they have a

1570
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: hell of a team and I mean they're picking up

1571
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 1: guys as they go, and the skill positions are amazing.

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01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: The defenses were rolling. You know, maybe a little bit

1573
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: of trouble at the offensive line position other than you know,

1574
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: obviously the all world left tackle. But um yeah, it's

1575
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: that's a huge hole all of a sudden in NFC,

1576
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: and if you're the if you're the Cowboys and Eagles,

1577
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: you had to be doing the fist pump when when

1578
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: you saw Garoppolo is you know, likely lost with the season.

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01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: Always great talking to you, my friend. Thank you so

1580
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: much for your time today. We appreciate you a great deal.

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01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 1: Absolutely gents and Joyceoncinnati. We will indeed Senior NFL reporter

1582
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: for Yeah Who, Charles Robinson, one of the great guests

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Speaker 1: was another really interesting thing that came of the Randy

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01:25:55,160 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: Moss interview with the Mannings. So remember the seven Eisman

1602
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: finalists were Manning, Chuck Woodson, Random Moss, and Ryan Leaf

1603
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: were the four guys. And do you remember from that

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01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 1: that Moss wore sunglasses Oakley sunglasses to the award and

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01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: he wore them that night. He wore him during the

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01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: ceremony and all of it and took a lot of

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01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: heat for you know, a lot of people. He's a

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01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: thought he can't take his glasses off out of that.

1609
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 1: Took a lot of heat for it, and he explained

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01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: that he felt suffocated by the entire experience, like all

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01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: the cameras. Remember he's from Huntington's uh Rand Rand, West Virginia,

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01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: Huntington's area. He goes to Notre Dame lou Holtz calls

1613
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: Bobby about and he something happened at Notre Dame. Lou

1614
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: Holtz calls Bobby about and he says take him. Bowden

1615
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 1: makes a deal with the president at Florida State and says,

1616
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: you gotta get this guy into your president. Florida State

1617
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: at the time Sandy Dalabert State. It's fine, you can

1618
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: have him one strike, he's out, so but he has

1619
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: to red shirt. So he red shirts his entire freshman year,

1620
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 1: dominates one of the best defensive teams Florida States ever

1621
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: had when they were in their heyday in the late nineties.

1622
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,600
Speaker 1: Decides to go home for spring break, gets pinched, I

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01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: think for weed when he's back in West Virginia and

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01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: it is thrown out of Florida State, ends up at

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01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 1: West Virginia at Marshall. The rest is history. Um wins

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01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 1: a national championship, one double A at Marshall, is a

1627
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: Heisman finalist at Marshall. All of those that's correct, Um.

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01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 1: But the reason that he wore the sunglasses he picked

1629
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 1: him up on the street. They weren't Oakley's. He picked

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01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: him up on the streets so that he could hide

1631
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 1: behind the lenses because he was so uncomfortable by all

1632
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: of the lights of all that came with Heisman. One

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01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,759
Speaker 1: of those things where you it's something that the perception

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01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: is he's a punk in reality. In reality he was

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01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: just terrified, shy and terrified. Would you say that was

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01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: the best? Is that the best top three ever? Throw

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01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 1: leaf out of it, Manning, Woodson, Moss in terms of

1638
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: they're they're all first ballot off. That's what I mean. Yes,

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01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I can't even imagine anything could

1640
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: be similar in terms of the NFL. Yes, here's the

1641
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: here's the best. This is the most important thing Charles

1642
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: Woodson did. Because most people thought Manning should have won

1643
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: that Heisman that year, Charles Woodson validated the Heisman with

1644
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: his NFL career. Think about that and the fact that

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01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: there hasn't been in another defensive players a shame because

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01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: there should be more. I voted for him several times.

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01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: There should have been more. The next level coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listen. Ready. Cleveland as a fifty ESPN Cleveland