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Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Sha Shay. I

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Speaker 1: am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propride of

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Speaker 1: Club Sha Shak. Today we'll at least go underground at

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Speaker 1: Resources World, Las Vegas, stopping by for conversation on a

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Speaker 1: drink today. He was once known as the bad boy

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Speaker 1: of R and B. He has left an unforgettable mark

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Speaker 1: Bey style high top face, He's a true legend. A

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Speaker 1: Billboard chart topping hit maker, a Grammy Award winning singer,

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Speaker 1: a multiple platinum songwriter, renowned rapper, trend setter, New York

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Speaker 1: Times bestselling author, a multi talented entertainer, actor, performer, musician,

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Speaker 1: Of heavyweight, a true titan, one of the most influential,

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Speaker 1: well loved and compelling artists of all time, a music phenomenon,

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Speaker 1: a megastar, the king of the stage. Here is my prerogative,

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Speaker 1: mister Bobby Brown, appreciate you. Thank you for stopping by,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me rober edited, a true, true arnor

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Speaker 1: to have you on Club Shae Shay, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much to stop you by, and for today's toast, we

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Speaker 1: did something a little special. We have what we call

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Speaker 1: a brown Shae Martinez Martin's my Cognac Shae by Laportier

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Speaker 1: and Bobby's coffee Bean correct coffee beans coffee being I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: Try this out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know who I needed here. I needed

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Speaker 1: my makeup artist, Brett. This is her favorite drink, A

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Speaker 1: mark not even bad, That's not bad at all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: me ask you a questions. So, where can people that

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Speaker 3: You? Ever? A dot com? It is Bobby Brownfoods dot com.

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Speaker 3: We selled from seasonings to fried chicken mixes to coffee.

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Speaker 3: It's just, uh, it's just something me and my wife

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Speaker 1: what have you learned most about the food industry? I've

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Speaker 3: It takes time to get into all of the big stores.

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Speaker 3: But you know, when you have a good product, like

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Speaker 3: we have all natural, gluten free, less sodium than many

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Speaker 3: So how long have you how long have you been

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Speaker 3: Why do you think this is?

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Speaker 1: Why do you think why do you think the food

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Speaker 1: Food is always needed. Food is always needed by the masses,

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Speaker 1: especially when it's good. When it's good and it's healthy

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Speaker 3: Kayaki sauce that is amazing for kids, because my my

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Speaker 1: If somebody says, okay, Bobby, so you going on one

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Speaker 3: What's bobby brown dish? I'm cooking my fried chicken. I'm

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Speaker 3: I got I got the remedy. Do you cook every

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Speaker 3: But my mother used to make me sit in the

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Speaker 3: It's just, you know, I know how the season, you know,

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Speaker 1: So when you're cooking, you're in the kitchen, what you're

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Speaker 3: I don't try to put push my music on them

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Speaker 1: Do you kids know who you are? Not take Dad aside?

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Speaker 1: They do they know Bobby Brown? I know they know Dad,

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Speaker 1: but do they know Bobby? They know Bobby? They definitely nobody.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, they've watched they I allow them to see

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Speaker 1: Do you think your kid's gonna follow in your footsteps

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Speaker 3: So you know, as far as following in my footprints, yeah,

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Speaker 1: What is something that your fans don't know about, Bobby?

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Speaker 1: What's one thing they would be like, hey, man, he

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Speaker 1: I'm quiet, Really, I'm very quiet. I'm very reserved. When

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Speaker 3: But you know, for the most part, I'm gonna sit

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Speaker 1: Of all the songs that you've recorded, what do you

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Speaker 1: think my prerogative is the Telephone Man, Candy Girl, every

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Speaker 3: Prerogative? Prerogative because because I wrote it for myself. I

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Speaker 3: And that's that's basically the reason I think I'm still

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Speaker 1: So let me ask your question. So you said, my

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Speaker 1: And he don't like it, Oh, well, go to hell.

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Speaker 1: But this is what I So when you're writing a song,

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Speaker 1: Because I think Teddy Riley if produced that, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Teddy Rolly, Okay, so you like Teddy, I got this,

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Speaker 3: It's an anthem.

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Speaker 1: It's an old to me because y'all, you know, they

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Speaker 1: say I'm bad, they say I'm this and that. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna show them why I'm this way. So what

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Speaker 1: is what is? What is Teddy roll in my prerogative?

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Speaker 3: Teddy's role in my prerogative was bringing that slamming ass track.

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Speaker 3: That track was so so beefy and so so so

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Speaker 3: be said on that correct. You know, Teddy's a great,

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Speaker 1: qualified candidates tomorrow. Why do you believe you were such

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Speaker 3: touch with you know, anything my children might be getting into,

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00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 3: you know, But when they come back around, you know,

433
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 3: I get a chance to tell my kids, Listen, we

434
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 3: used to, way back, way back, we used to wear

435
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: our pants just like that. Uh, you know, the skinny jeans.

436
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: I don't know where that came from, but that that

437
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: is something that was just not We never wore it.

438
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 3: Skinny jeans, you know, growing up, when I grew up,

439
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 3: skinny jeans was a fad that hopefully doesn't. We don't

440
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 3: want to. You don't want that. We don't want that

441
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: to come back, no time soon. Okay, what what trend

442
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: would you like to see comeback? Ah? But we still

443
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: got the afro. Yeah, I'm loving the ass. They don't

444
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 3: They don't rock it as much. I mean, they don't

445
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: rock it as much they rocked the braidsid the twist. Yeah,

446
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 3: there's a lot of you know, dreads out there now. Unfortunately,

447
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: you know, I can't grow all my hair back. There's

448
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: some spots that won't grow. But you could grow from hair.

449
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 3: I mean you can. It'll be flocky. It'll have a

450
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: spot right here. Okay, and that that is that is

451
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 3: not a hairstyle that you know, I want to you know,

452
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: you get people to follow.

453
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: Uh. Is it true that you talked Michael Jackson how

454
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: to move move walk sideways? Sideway okay sideways not not

455
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: the back, not the back one, but you go to

456
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: go sideways?

457
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 3: So how so how did you teach him?

458
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: So what I mean, so what you let you went

459
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: over to his house or we went over to his

460
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: house and we were doing it in front of him.

461
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 3: New addition, and I don't know if he already knew

462
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 3: how to do it. But I know that when we

463
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 3: showed him he was flabbygasted. He was like, wow, that's

464
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: something new, right. So he put it into his thing

465
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 3: and he put he perfected.

466
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: It was over. It was over. He took it and

467
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: perfected it. What's your best memory of Michael?

468
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 3: My best memory of Michael is it's how kind and

469
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 3: how how how how just how kind he was as

470
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: a as a man. You really don't find people like

471
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: that anymore. Michael was somebody that trusted and believed in Jehovah.

472
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: Michael was somebody that trusted and believed in what he

473
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: was about as a man, what what he was about

474
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: as an entertainer. He knew how special he was and

475
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: that that impressed me. You know, it always has impressed me.

476
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: There's always a debate who is the closest in your time,

477
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: Who is the closest thing to Michael since Michael?

478
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: You know you hear Chris Brown? You hear I would?

479
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: I would? I would? I would go with Chris Brown. Really,

480
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: I would go with Chris Brown because the dancing and

481
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: the singing aspect. Chris Brown is a dancer, singer, slash

482
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: slash great entertainer. Okay, he goes out there and he

483
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: douse the ultimate, ultimate stuff on stage and you just

484
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 3: have to love it. Usher also, Usher was also a

485
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: great entertainer. But I gotta go with Chris on on

486
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: on being as close close to Michael as as anybody

487
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: could ever get.

488
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: And it was great to see Breeze at the Grammy

489
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: get to win that finallyvine Getters due, long, over due,

490
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: but right on time. Yes, Usher said he looked up

491
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: to you and say, because you kind of related to

492
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 1: you in the industry more than anyone else. When you

493
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: hear one of this generation's great performers, one of these

494
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: great R and B singers says that, you know, Bobby

495
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: was kind of a mused that I used to kind

496
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: of develop what I did.

497
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: How to make you feel makes me feel great because

498
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: he's a great entertainer. I've known Usher since he was

499
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: twelve eleven, twelve years old, and just just seeing his

500
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: growth in the industry and seeing how how well he

501
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: holds hisself up, how well he takes care of his business.

502
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: I'm really proud of him.

503
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time when did he come

504
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: to your show, whether whether an arranged meeting, do you

505
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: remember you say you're knownh since he was twelve? How

506
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: did that meeting happen?

507
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: Uh? I had I had a a security guard who

508
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: found us here and he brought him to the shows.

509
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: He brought him to the studios. I had a studio

510
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: in Atlanta, Georgia, and he he just was always around Okay.

511
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: He brought him to be around me and to learn

512
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: what this this thing of ours is is all about? Right?

513
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: Which new artist does Bobby listen to today? Is there

514
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: anybody that that you know?

515
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: Like? Man? I really like I really like he or her?

516
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: You like? I mean, I like this Sune. I like

517
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: the way they do, do what they do. I love

518
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: I love all of the females to new females that's

519
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: South right now, Jasmine Sullivan and all of them, Sizza, Yeah, him,

520
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: I love. I love Anthony Hamilton, probably one of my

521
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: favorite artists out there right now. As far as Soul

522
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: and R and B is concerned, he's definitely keeping it

523
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: the mems, not him.

524
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: Tims Tims, Yeah, Man, she's amazing. Yeah, she's She's absolutely amazing.

525
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: Uh R and B. We get this a lot. I

526
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: asked Usher this, I've asked a lot of people that's

527
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: appeared on club.

528
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 3: Is R and B dead? No, no, No, R and

529
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: B is never gonna die. R and B is something

530
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: that it's made up of what they call popular music.

531
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: So it's been in a wolven. It's not dead.

532
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: It's just been in a woven and a lot of

533
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 1: different things, a lot of different things.

534
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: You have Bruno moms who you know, who's keeping the

535
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: the R and B new Jack sound alive? Yes, which

536
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: is which is great for for anybody who loves that

537
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: style of music. That style of music will never it

538
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: will never die. It will never die. Who's some of

539
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: them you mentioned? Like? Are there any guys that you like?

540
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: You mentioned like Jasmine Sullivan, you mentioned, like taim you

541
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: mentioned some of the females other than Anthony Hamilton.

542
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: Who is your R RB guys? I like Chris, I

543
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: like Usher. There's a lot of them out there. A

544
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: lot of new cats out there that I can't you know,

545
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: figuring their names out, but a lot of new songs

546
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: that are out there that are really R and B

547
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: orientated really impressed me. Who is the king R and B?

548
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: Who's the king of R and being of R and B? Uh?

549
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: I don't no, I don't know. So it's a big question.

550
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: It is who's the king of R and B. Well,

551
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: how about this here giving your mound rushmore? If you

552
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: got four people to put on this this not mountain,

553
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: are your four greatest Bobby Brown's four greatest R and

554
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: B singers?

555
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: Who faces you putting on that mountain?

556
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: Damn calling me out right now. I know one's gonna

557
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: be on the Marvin Gay. You're gonna put Marvin up there.

558
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: Marvin is definitely up there. Prince is definitely up Okay,

559
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: Michael's definitely up there. Stevie Wonders definitely up there. You

560
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: ain't got no more We got got no more room.

561
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: You ain't got no more room. I'm sorry, we have

562
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: no more vacancies up there. Let me ask you that

563
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: streaming that seems to be a lot, because Bobby, when

564
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: you started sitting, when you first started, it was all

565
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: the hard copies. You went to the you went to

566
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: the you know, Doore, and you waited in line, and

567
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: you couldn't wait to buy that, you know that forty

568
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: five or thirty year old whatever you're gonna buy. You

569
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: couldn't wait to get that actual copy of the vinyl.

570
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: Right now, it's not so much like that. Streaming is

571
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: kind of where it is now. What are your thoughts

572
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: on streaming?

573
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: Streaming is something that basically has has stretched the game

574
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: outa The game is not the same anymore. You can't

575
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: sell records, so the artist doesn't get paid as much

576
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: as they are supposed to. Streaming is basically a robbery

577
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: of of selling records.

578
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: It's somebody's intellectual property house. You're stealing it, you know.

579
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: And it's not It's not something that I look at

580
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: to be something for the future. I think the future

581
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: should have, you know, because when you buy an album,

582
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: you get to look at that album. You get to

583
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: read who who's done, Who's done what on the album,

584
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: You get the pictures, you get you get all of

585
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: this great information. When you look at an album cover

586
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: correct and you get the same minute, you get.

587
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: The whole You actually get to hold it. It's yours. Yes,

588
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: and now now you you know, do you have a

589
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: vinyl collection? Did you keep all those albums that you

590
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: collected that you that back in the day. Do you

591
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: have them all? I don't have them all. You let

592
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: them go, but I let them go. I let them go.

593
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, unfortunately, I don't know. I don't know how I

594
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: did it right, you know, just leaving certain situations and leaving,

595
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: leaving stuff here, and then leaving stuff here. Somebody out

596
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: there got Bobby Brown. Somebody's gotten Vinyl collections, and I

597
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: want it back. I ain't playing. I want myself back.

598
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: Bobby used to sell twelve million physical copies, twelve million

599
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: albums physical people went into the line or they ordered

600
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: to however they got it.

601
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: But they got that many copies.

602
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: Do you think we'll ever see someone sell that many

603
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: physical records again?

604
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: I would hope, So, I would really hope. So if

605
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 3: they bring Vinyl back, you know, if they find a

606
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: different way to sell albums, I would hope. So, you know,

607
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: because it's a lot of people out there that that

608
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: listen to music that can't speak the language. You know,

609
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: they learned how to speak English by listening to music.

610
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: And those people need albums. They need, they need they

611
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: need the actual physical, physical album to be able to

612
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: do that.

613
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier that that streaming has cut some of

614
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 1: the process, So walk us through. So like if you weren't,

615
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 1: let's just say, for the sake of argument, if streaming

616
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: was available back then and you record all these songs.

617
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: Obviously you probably wasn't independent. I forget what label you're on,

618
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: So the record company would take it to the streaming

619
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: service and they would play it.

620
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: Because how does that work? I tell you the truth,

621
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: I don't know how streaming works these days because I'm

622
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: so out of the loop of you know, putting out

623
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: records that you know, my my, my past record label

624
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 3: was MCA Records Universal, and they still have a stronghold

625
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 3: on what the industry is about right now. They still

626
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: have a stronghold on it. But I'd just like to

627
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: see the artists get their just dues, you know, get that,

628
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: get the monies that they deserve to receive for making

629
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: this music and selling this music to the people.

630
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you get a little change. I mean your

631
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: stuff is streaming. I mean they can go on and

632
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: listen it. Don't be cruel and my boy and all

633
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: that stuff. They still get a change. It's nice little checks.

634
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: I'm living. I'm living.

635
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: If a new artist came to you for advice, what's

636
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: the first thing you tell them?

637
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: Tell them to always practice on their craft, always rehearse, always,

638
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: always hold yourself accountable for performing for people. The stage

639
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: is everything. And it allows you to have the longevity

640
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: in this industry when you're a great performer. Now, I

641
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: don't care how many records you've sold. If you can't

642
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: perform on stage, perform live, there's no reason for you

643
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 3: to be in this industry. Wow.

644
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: Wow, as a kid star growing up in Boston, become

645
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: this megastar, come into this large summer money, more money

646
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: than you thought you could ever have ever do. How

647
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: difficult was it to you for you to stay grounded

648
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: and not lose sight of who body was?

649
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: My mother, my mother, and my father. They told me

650
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: I was never too big to get an ass whip

651
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 3: somebody making his money. No, I was never too old to,

652
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, take an ass whipping or give one out. No,

653
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: it's just just to me, this is entertainment and I

654
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: hold that to heart. I hold that dearly. It's it's

655
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 3: about performing for people, and it's about it's about making

656
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 3: the money and not letting the money make you.

657
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: How difficult was it to be famous at a young age?

658
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: Did you change or did the surroundings? Are people around

659
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: you change? People around you change a lot. They view

660
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: you differently, They expect, they expect things from you. They

661
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: expect you to do things for them that you know

662
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: you wouldn't normally do for a person. They expect if

663
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: you if you you're the one with the money. They

664
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: are your friends, so they should, you know, benefit off

665
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: benefit also. And you know I still have the same

666
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: friends that I had wow back in the days, because

667
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 1: my friends always kept me, kept me grounded.

668
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: They always made sure that I remembered who I was

669
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 3: and remember who I am as a person. How is family? Family?

670
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: Family is family something else? Family is definitely something else.

671
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: I mean it was it hard for you to tell family? No,

672
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 3: it still is. Really it still is because because being being.

673
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: A professional professional athelete and having some success and being

674
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: in media space, it's always a situation like when you

675
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: come into something, it's we, but when we lose something,

676
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: as you, it's me man, we whoa were rich?

677
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: He broke? WHOA? WHOA what are well? So it was

678
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: we we had money?

679
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: Right? So so your family come to you because it's

680
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: like now all of a sudden, they see Bobby would

681
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: a new car. They need a new car. They see

682
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: Bobby would a nice wife. They want to watch. They

683
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: see Bobby got a new home, but.

684
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: Hey, where's mine? So how do you because you look

685
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: at the in the beginning. In the beginning, I would

686
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: give my family everything, really, I mean everything, you know,

687
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: from houses, to cars, to to jewelry to money, you know.

688
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: And as I grew grow up, as I grew up,

689
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: I learned that I have a family, I have kids,

690
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: I have a wife. You know that I have to

691
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: take care of correct and something have to stay that way.

692
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 3: You know, you can't. You can't give what you ain't

693
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: got to everybody. You know, you have to, you know,

694
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 3: make sure you take care of home first. And it's

695
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: hard for family. Family, But Bobby, we family. Bro.

696
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: I was with you when you have nothing, and then

697
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: you go to my house and eat them a certain families.

698
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 3: That should be worth about fifty grand because it's.

699
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: Funny though, but in all and in all honesty is

700
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: that people did for you, like now we owe them something. Okay, Bro,

701
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: I had a meal at your house. Is that worth

702
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand day? Can I cook for you? So

703
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: let me cook a meal for you. That's that payback,

704
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712
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: The Crown is yours Publishing. Let me ask you this,

713
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: When you sold twelve million hard copies, how much money

714
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: did you see actually see from that?

715
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of her A lot of it.

716
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of it because my deal was

717
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 3: situated in a way where I made you know, money

718
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: dollars on each record, okay, so oh okay, not pennies.

719
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: So for me, you know, the way my mother had

720
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 3: it structured and the way my management made it so

721
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: that I saw a lot of the money. I still

722
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 3: see checks, you know, I still see checks. So you know,

723
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: it's it's it's not like the money is gone. Uh hm,

724
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: it's still. It's it's it's it's still it's still in

725
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: a way where I feel like my best years are

726
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 3: yet to yet to be, yet to come.

727
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: Is that why it's so important for artists, artists to

728
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: keep their masters to keep their catalog.

729
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you have to if after the first thirty

730
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: five years I obtained my masters. Okay, so now I

731
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: own my own masters and I can do what I

732
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 3: want to do with my music. Would you ever consider

733
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: selling it? No time soon?

734
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: You're like, hell, I'd just got it back, trying to

735
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: get involve of it at all.

736
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: Like if you had to guess what, what song do

737
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: you think? Says?

738
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: Okay, they put the most money in the bank account.

739
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: They make sure that the wife and the kids that

740
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna be good.

741
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: Which song? Which what song you think pays you the most? H?

742
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: I think the Dumpy Crue album period, because we had

743
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: six seven singles off of that album. Right, that whole

744
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 3: album pays me enough to live. Wow today, that's nice

745
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 3: with a wife and three kids. Wife, and that ain't

746
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 3: bad living five kids? Oh by bad? That ain't bad

747
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 3: living about yeah? Three grandchildren?

748
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 2: Wow?

749
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

750
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: What have you learned when it comes to the music

751
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: industry and contracts?

752
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: Uh, you gotta be careful. They get you, They get you.

753
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: Have a great lawyer. Always have a lawyer. Look at

754
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: all your contract doesn't matter what you have to pay

755
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 3: that lawyer as long as that lawyer is doing this

756
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: job you it'd be worth it to to to let

757
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: a lawyer look at it.

758
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: If you can go back and resign a contract, what

759
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: would you do over? If so, I'm you're here, here,

760
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: you are now fifty six years of age. If I'll

761
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: transport you back forty two years, what would you do different?

762
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: I'm be independent from the jump from the jump. From

763
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: the jump, I would bust my ass every concert, every

764
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: promotional thing that I had to do to make sure

765
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 3: that I sold the records and performed at my best ability.

766
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: Is the situation where you do an album? You how

767
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: long after you do an album do you think about Okay,

768
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: I got the.

769
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: Tour, uh right away, right away?

770
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: So so, so what's what's common? When do When do

771
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: most albums drop? Or they are set time in which

772
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: albums drop?

773
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: Nowadays albums drop. People drop albums every six months. Okay,

774
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: I dropped the album every three years. And it was

775
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 3: just like, because we were touring so much, dropped the

776
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 3: album and dropped the album we tore for the next

777
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: three years. Wow, that's what we did on the Don't

778
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: Be Crude. That's what we did on the Bobby Brown.

779
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: The Bobby album. We toured. We just toured and toured

780
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 3: all around the world.

781
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: Do you think back in some of the contracts that

782
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: you signed and some of the money that you left

783
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: on the table, You're.

784
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 3: Like, damn, what the hell was I thinking? Yeah, yeah,

785
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: it was a lot of money left. There's a lot

786
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 3: of money left. Uh, new edition, first deal.

787
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: Is it true you guys only made five hundred dollars

788
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: at a VCR with a new edition before it went solo.

789
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: Yes, five hundred dollars in a VCR. Five hundred dollars

790
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: in the VCR, that's all you got. And our royalty

791
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: was like a dollar sixty eight. Our royalty check was

792
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: like a dollar sixty eight. But we got five hundred

793
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 3: dollars to sign in a VCR. Well, it was a

794
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 3: Beta max at the time, so I would so which

795
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: one of you guys were the lawyer? Neither one of

796
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 3: us was good at being a lawyer.

797
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: So you guys got Rake cross the cold and that

798
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: we got ranked. We got ranked. We didn't know anything

799
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: about it. We we all we wanted to do was perform.

800
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: All we wanted to do was make enough money to

801
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: go to the movies, buy candy, you know, date girls,

802
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, that's all. That's all we thought about. We

803
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about the lay money.

804
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 3: We didn't know. We didn't know.

805
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: We didn't know, we didn't You were saying we were

806
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: treated like little slaves. Why do you think that we

807
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: worked all the time and didn't get paid?

808
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: You know, new edition. I think right now we're at

809
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 3: our best time because we are. We're together as brothers, right,

810
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 3: and we fought a lot growing up, but we're together

811
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 3: as brothers. We pray together, we eat together, we sleep together.

812
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: As far as you know, we stay in the same building.

813
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 3: When we're in the same buildings, you can't touch us. Wow,

814
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: that's the supergroup. You had a family.

815
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: It was family members that actually did the contract the

816
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: first time around.

817
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: You still have family doing anything for your car drown No, no, no, no,

818
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: unfortunately not. I mean, my brother is still in my life.

819
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 3: You know, we'll always be in my life. But I

820
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: found that me handling my own stuff my wife with

821
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: my lawyer is a lot easier to deal with than

822
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: you know, having, you know, to put that pressure on him.

823
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: Some people say you can do it. A lot of

824
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 1: people say you can't mix business and family.

825
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: Right.

826
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: Have you found that it was it's really because at

827
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: the end of that, that's my brother. I don't want

828
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: my brother losing his job, but my brother ain't doing

829
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: the damn job good enough to keep a job. It's

830
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: as simple as that. This ain't Bro. You still gonna

831
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: be my brother forever. But Bro, this's just certain things

832
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: that you can't.

833
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't depend on family members to do right,

834
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: but you have to, you know, still love them the same,

835
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 3: you know, and always be there for him.

836
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: If I ask you to put a dollar amount on

837
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: how much money you guys think you lost with that

838
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: first album, considering that you was making five hundred dollars

839
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: in a BCR you got a dollar say State Royalty.

840
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: How much money you think you guys missed out on Bobby.

841
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: Thirty thirty thirty to forty million apiece? Wow? At we

842
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: should have been making that amount of money a piece.

843
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 3: New Edition. Wow, you guys have this run a group

844
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: do we?

845
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: Do you ever think before we get into the new addition,

846
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: do you ever think we'll see a group again like

847
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: New Addition, Like we saw new Kids on the blog,

848
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: we saw end Sync.

849
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: It used to be groups. Do you ever think we'll

850
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 3: see that again? About it? I hope. I hope because

851
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: you know, it's an art form that is it's filled

852
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: with passion, you know, brotherhood. It's like playing playing a

853
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: game of football. You you have to depend on each

854
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,479
Speaker 3: one of the players to do their job in order

855
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 3: for you to be successful. And I think I hope

856
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 3: that we see groups come back, bands come back.

857
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: How you guys who were who were? You went solo first?

858
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: I went solo first because you guys were You guys

859
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: grew up in the same area. You knew each other,

860
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: so it wasn't like, Okay, we got an audition and

861
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out who can do this and who

862
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: can do that. You guys knew each other from the jump,

863
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: so you already had that kind of bond. What started

864
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: to happen to make you decide, I think I need

865
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: to step out and do my own thing.

866
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 3: I was just tired of the bubblegum bubblegum experience. You know,

867
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 3: you want to be a little bit more hardcore. I wanted.

868
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: I wanted to be more hardcore, but I wanted more

869
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: control over what I did. Okay, you know the songs

870
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 3: that I sang, the clothes that I wore. I wanted

871
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: to have more control. And thank god that I that

872
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 3: I got kicked out of the group at that time,

873
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: they kicked you out, They kicked me out of the group. Oh,

874
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: I was voted out of the group. So when you

875
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 3: found out? So hold on?

876
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: Did they find out find out that you were going solo?

877
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: Is that why they kicked you out before you actually

878
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: wanted to exit? Or how did this happen?

879
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 3: No? I was picked out first, and then they found

880
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: out that I was doing a solo Why they kick

881
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 3: you out? I was just doing the wrong. So you

882
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 3: had a little something to do with now I had.

883
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 3: I had a lot to do with it. You had

884
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: a lot to do it. I had a lot to

885
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 3: do with it.

886
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: So they voted. So did anybody vote to keep you in?

887
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: Or they are whether whether unanimous body gotta go?

888
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

889
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: I think from what I heard, there was one against four, damn,

890
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: one against well, one against three right that wanted.

891
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 3: Me to remain? To remain?

892
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: Did you have a conversation like, hold hold on, God,

893
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: look check this out. I didn't get a chance to

894
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: have a conversation.

895
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: You didn't. No, they didn't even give you that courtagy body.

896
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: No, no, no, But this is my These are my brothers,

897
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: I know because you're my brothers, and got been able

898
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: to come back together. Yes, and our relationships are stronger

899
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: than ever.

900
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 3: Did you hope for this moment? Yes? Yeah. Once I

901
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: once I was out of the group and I found

902
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: a little success, and I found a different way of

903
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 3: doing things, and I was successful at doing it that way,

904
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: doing it my way. I wanted them to know that

905
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: they could do it and in that same same form

906
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 3: and make more money, you know, doing it that way.

907
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: Well then kind of like I think Ralph was probably

908
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: the next one that go solo. Right, No, it was

909
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: BBD Okay, okay, Bell BBD Right, they went, and then

910
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: Ralph and then Ralph, and then of course Johnny was

911
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: already already, so Johnny came once you left, So Johnny

912
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: was what replaced you. No, Johnny was supposed to replace

913
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: Ralph because Ralph was going solo. Okay, okay, So Johnny

914
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: was putting the group to give the give the group

915
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: a new sound, okay. And then Bell Bivdevaux went up

916
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: to charts and blew up and.

917
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 3: The group just you know, it was about pieces. And

918
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: then once we figured it out, we figured out that

919
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 3: we have all of these pieces that we can bring

920
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 3: back together and form this supergroup, this supergroup. Why not

921
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 3: do it?

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Speaker 1: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

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Speaker 1: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

924
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

925
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: simply go back to Club Sha profile and I'll see

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Speaker 1: you there.