1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Our three of Clay in Buck starts right now. Everybody, 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: just want to make a quick note for you. We 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: put up at clayon buck dot com a pole because 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: we want to know where all of you are on 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: this Ron descantists Donald Trump, who is your God? And 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: we have a pull up there also from the clay 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: en Buck Twitter account which we are retweeted. You can 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: vote there will combine all the different votes non scientific poll. 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Let you know what that snapshot of this audience's opinion 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: is at this stage of the primary and of the 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: presidential contest. And as promise, right now, we have our 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: friend Shannon Bream with us now Fox News Chief Supreme 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: Court Legal Analyst. She has a new book out, The 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Love Stories of the Bible speak Biblical lessons on romance, friendship, 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: and faith. It is coming out later this week. Shannon, 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us. Clay it 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: is our buxcuse me Buck and eventually Clay. It's always 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: great to be all right, yep, yep, where we're both here. 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate you being with us. So tell us, Shannon the 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: Love Stories of the book. I just kind of want 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: to just tell us about this Love Stories of the patible, 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: So listen. A lot of times people are like, Okay, 23 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: what the heck could the Bible say about romance and 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: marriage and all that kind of stuff. But you know, 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: it's pretty steamy in portions, and it's not like God's 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: looking around like what are they doing down there? Like 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: he invented us. He knows that we're going to have 28 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: this desire to connect with other people, to be in relationships. 29 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: So the book is yes about the romances and complicated 30 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: and sometimes messy relationships, but also friendships because I think 31 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: that's really so much of the fabric of our lives 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: that holds us together, the idea of community. But also 33 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: this came in to love your neighbor as yourself, which 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: is probably one of the hardest at times because there 35 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: aren't any outs or exceptions, and frankly, I think we 36 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: could use a little bit more of that right now, Shannon, 37 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: do you think your husband is listening to you on 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: this program right now or watching opening day of Major 39 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: League Baseball? You know what I would say, if he 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: was not in the air on an airplane right now, 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: he would be listening to He'll be watching baseball. I 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: don't blame it. Braves are winning Braves are winning right now. 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: You're you are married into the people. I don't know 44 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: if people know this. You'r Shannon Bream. Your brother, sorry, 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: your brother in law is Sid Bream, who is one 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: of the most iconic Atlanta Braves stars of all time 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: sliding into home plate. For everybody out there who remembers 48 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: that play, that is the connection. Your husband is is 49 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: Sidbream's brother. So yes, So I want everybody out there 50 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: to know that since it's opening day in Major League Baseball. 51 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: So yes, you are killing it on Fox News Sunday. 52 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: But you also have a deep understanding of what has 53 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: gone on at the Supreme Court and also our legal 54 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: system in general. When you see what is going on 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: in New York City with Alvin Bragg, and by the way, 56 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: i'd encourage everybody to go buy that book. It's a 57 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: great gift as we get ready for certainly Mother's Day 58 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: coming up and everything else. When you see what's going 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: on with Alvin Bragg and New York City and now 60 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: there's a one month pause, and everybody seemed to think, Oh, 61 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: Trump's gonna get charged, Trump's going to get charged. What 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: do you think's going on there? How would you read 63 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: the to you leaves well as a fellow lawyer, My friend, 64 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: I love hearing what you think about it's going on 65 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: here too, because my question is, because grand juries are 66 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be secret, that is for a lot of 67 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: good reasons. It allows the legal system to work in 68 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: a certain way. But when Robert Costello, the attorney, came 69 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: out who said, listen, I was hearing stuff that was 70 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: coming out. I didn't think it was accurate. He says. 71 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: At one point he represented Michael Cohen. Cohen says, that's 72 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: not the case. Be that as it may. Robert Costello 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: went and testified before the grand jury and said, listen, 74 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: Cohen's either lying back then or he's lying now. And also, 75 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: you've seen six of more than three hundred relevant emails. 76 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: This is Costello making his case. There's a lot more 77 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: to this story. And and I think that there's pressure 78 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: from the right and the left, of course, on Bragg 79 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: to reconsider whether he moves forward with this, because I 80 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: think it's fair to say it's probably, from what we 81 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: know about these cases being done in secret, the weakest 82 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: against the former president, and you know, to bring it 83 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: this far to try to get an indictment, but not 84 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: a conviction. It's only going to lend credence to President 85 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: Trump's argument that this is nothing but political, no doubt, 86 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: and building on that, I agree one hundred percent with 87 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: what you said Europe. In the DC area, I'm sure 88 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: you saw that there was a report about what was 89 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: going on with the Supreme Court justices and the protests 90 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: outside of their homes. Those protests violate both federal and 91 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: state law, arguably in Maryland and in Virginia, but certainly 92 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: in the District of Columbia where some of those justices reside. 93 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: What did you think about that story and the fact 94 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: that there's arguments that they've purposely chosen not to hold 95 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: those protesters accountable. It's really hard to understand because, gosh, 96 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: think about it was almost a year ago that we 97 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: had that leak, which immediately puts Yeah, I think it's 98 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: it's easy to argue some of these justices and lives 99 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: in danger. We have the one suspect who showed up 100 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: that apparently made a statement, according to police at one 101 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: point that he had showed up to hurt or to 102 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: kill Justice Kavanaugh, to potentially assassinate him. That case is ongoing, 103 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: but we've always asked this question, why are these protesters 104 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: not being prosecuted because you don't have to make a 105 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: big Harry deal out of it, but why not at 106 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: least tickets some of them, maybe arrest some of them. 107 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: It might stop it. I say, in touch with a 108 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: number of these justices and I know what's going on, 109 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: and some of them still have protesters showing up at 110 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: their homes. That has not gone away. It has not stopped. 111 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: So when you've got someone like Senator Katie Brick coming 112 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: out and bringing what she says are the receipts that 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: show the DJ was discouraging arresting those people, it sparks 114 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: all kinds of questions as to why. Speaking of Shannon Breem, 115 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: her book coming out this week is The Love Stories 116 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: of the Bible speak Biblical lessons on romance, friendship, and faith. 117 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: You know, Shannon right now, client, I earlier today, I 118 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: should say, we're talking about how Jacob Chansley has been 119 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: released eighteen months early. Do you think I mean this 120 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: is a two part for you. Do you think that 121 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: the recent revelation of video foot instrument side the Capitol 122 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: was a part of that early release. Once people saw 123 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: what Jacob chans they was really doing walking around, And 124 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: also does it strike you that it's a breach of 125 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: ethics on the prosecutorial side that, at least according to 126 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: defense attorneys, to be clear, this information, this exculpatory information, 127 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: was never provided to Chansley's legal team. Yeah, just in general, 128 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: I think we all know this principle that if prosecutors 129 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: have exculpatory evidence, it has to be shared. I mean, 130 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: that's part of our legal system and the way that 131 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: we expected to work and want people to have confidence 132 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: in it. So, you know, there's this question, was his 133 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: sentence reduced because of you know, good conduct or things 134 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: that normally happened with difference inmates when they're in prison. 135 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: But after the revelation of those tapes, that sparks a 136 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: whole another round of questions for me about whether those 137 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: who were involved with that prosecution felt like, Okay, this 138 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: is he's done enough time. This is going to get 139 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: a little sticky when we have to explain some of 140 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: what we're seeing doesn't line up with what some of 141 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: what we've been told. So I think it raises more 142 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: questions than anything, and I wonder if we will ever 143 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: get an explanation from the authorities about this transfer and 144 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: reduction in his sentence, Shannon, you are in the middle 145 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: on Fox News Sunday of the sort of not yet 146 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: officially official Trump versus De Santis battle. Have you been 147 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: surprised by Trump's surge and do you think the De 148 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: Santis campaign at all has been taken a little bit 149 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: by surprise by how aggressively Trump has come after De Santists, 150 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: even while the Santis is not yet an official candidate. 151 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: I think that's part of why we're seeing the former 152 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: president's surge, because for most people, it doesn't look like 153 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: he's got somebody who would go toe to toe with 154 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: him at this point. There are really strong, interesting, smart 155 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: candidates end but not somebody was kind of the star 156 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: power of a descantist just yet. But his team is 157 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: obviously very carefully calculating this as a decantist team. You know, 158 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: there are packs into groups that have been put together 159 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: to say, if he gets in, we've got the infrastructure, 160 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: We've got things lined up for him. You know. We 161 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: kind of keep hearing he wants to get through the 162 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: legislative session down there in Florida. But listen, what did 163 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: the presidents say at sea pack A few weeks ago 164 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: when he was asked, you know, will you drop out 165 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: if you get indicted? And he's like, no way, and 166 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: it'll probably help my numbers. He has a really good 167 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: understanding of the pulse of what's going on in the street, 168 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: and I think he knows that the more he can 169 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: leverage this to say, look, this is my proof. The 170 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: establishments after me, the deep state is after me. These 171 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: prosecutions if they don't land, if none of these swings 172 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: actually land as a punch, I think are only going 173 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: to help make his argument for him. So he was 174 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: right about that. Does that Flip wants the Santist gets 175 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: in those numbers? I don't know. Interesting that we had 176 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: pulling out this week. That shows, yes, President Trump is 177 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: increasing his lead. He is a favorite among GOP primary voters. 178 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: But when you ask both people who have Trump is 179 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: their first choice or the Santist as their first choice, 180 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: who's your second choice? They both so that De Santas 181 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: voters love Trumps they are number two. Trump voters love 182 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: to Santas as their number two. I don't know if 183 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: you guys were watching WAGO on Saturday night, but when 184 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: he brought up these lines about decantas they didn't get 185 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: this uproars applause if he got for some of the 186 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: other things like going after Avan Bragg and others. So 187 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: to me, I think there are a lot of folks 188 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: within the jup primary base where are like, listen, we'd 189 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: be happy with either one. Don't trash each other to 190 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: the point they're gonna be so bloodied you're gonna have 191 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: to limp into a general where you can't win. Shannon 192 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: building on that. When you look at the way this 193 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: campaign potentially is playing out, You've got a big platform. 194 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: How challenging is it to be able to balance everything? 195 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: Because Buck and I talk about this. Every time we 196 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: say something positive about Trump, the Trump people are like, yeah, 197 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: every time we say something positive about the Santis, back 198 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: and forth. It's a tough balancing act. This feels like 199 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: such an eight hundred pound guerrilla battle, right that both 200 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: sides are constantly looking in maybe a way that's a 201 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: lot different than in past years where there's been like 202 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: five or six or seven different people who have had 203 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: different surges. This feels like it's just man versus man, 204 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: the two of them, and that's pretty much it. It does, 205 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: And you guys probably come off the air or while 206 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: you're on the air, you can look at social media 207 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: and look at Twitter and get feedback. You can do 208 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: the same show and have half the people say like, 209 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: why are you so hard on President Trump and you 210 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: have no respect for him, and the same show people 211 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: can be like, well, clearly you got your talking points 212 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: directly from President Trump's campaigns down. So you know that 213 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: people project a lot like they're very much for Trump 214 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: or they're very much for someone else or against him. 215 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of times they project their 216 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: emotions onto what we're saying when we're just trying to 217 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: protect you know, share with them factual information or poll numbers. 218 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: I mean, just data that is statistical that doesn't have 219 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: emotions connected to it. I think, you know, politics has 220 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: become very emotional for people. I feel like sending on 221 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: any given day when I get emails from people saying 222 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: you're in the camp for Trump, and then I also 223 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: get about an equal number of emails for people saying 224 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: you're in the camp for descantists, that's a good side. 225 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: If both teams think you're the camp for the other, personally, 226 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: then you're probably you know, you're at least somewhere in 227 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: the middle, somewhere, somehow. Everyone to check out Shannon's book 228 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: Love Stories of the Bible Speak Biblical lessons on romance, friendship, 229 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: and faith. 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By the way, thanks to Shannon Bream, 256 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't making the noise over that. I was making 257 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: the noise over the poll. Just to be clear. Yeah, well, 258 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: we haven't even told people about them. We haven't even 259 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: told people about the poll yet, and so I'm about 260 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: to do. You can so many people out there went 261 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: away in on Trump versus De Santis. We have right 262 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: now a poll up at Clay and Buck dot com. Okay, 263 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you this one first. Clay and Buck 264 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: dot com our website. You cannot miss this poll. You 265 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: can go vote if you want to on Trump versus 266 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: De Santis? Which side would you come down on? And 267 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: please do because we want the biggest sample size of 268 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: this alliance possible. That's correct. So also, if you are 269 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: a Twitter user, so you have two options. You can 270 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: go to Clay and Buck dot com and vote, or 271 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: you can go to Twitter and vote at the Clay 272 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton show Twitter handle. I have retweeted it. 273 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: If you follow me, you can vote in it. Buck 274 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: has retweeted it. If you follow Buck, you can go 275 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: vote in it. When I clicked, when I clicked to 276 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: begin this segment, Buck, four thousand of you had voted, 277 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: and it was Daddy eve in fifty fifty. Okay, so 278 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: these are I don't know, one hundred thousand people follow 279 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: our Twitter accounts. You want the billion plus? What's the 280 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: update you want be updated? We've just put this plus 281 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: is really quick. We're already at sixty five hundred plus 282 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: votes just on the Twitter then, however, many thousands on 283 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: the website additionally, but just on the Twitter, it's fifty 284 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: four Trump forty six to Santists right now. And they 285 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: just told me res we were coming in from break, 286 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: they said that De Santis was up fifty what fifty 287 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: six to forty four on the website, so literally it 288 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: could not be tighter in terms of you all voting 289 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: right now on Trump or to Santis. And this is 290 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: I told Buck, I believe this is going to be 291 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: the story of twenty twenty three and what we're gonna 292 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: do on this show and certainly into early twenty twenty four. 293 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna have both guys on this program as much 294 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: as they want to come on. You know, we get 295 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: to talk to million of you every day, and we 296 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: want you to be able to make the best possible 297 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: decision when it comes time for your primary vote. And 298 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna basically having this discussion all year. What I 299 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: told Buck was twenty twenty two, everybody's on the same team. 300 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: I think twenty twenty four. Everybody's gonna be on the 301 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: same team for most of twenty twenty four once the 302 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: nominee is selected by March or so. But twenty twenty 303 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: three it's gonna be a nasty primary. And I've been 304 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: saying this ever since this this started. You know, it's 305 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: not gonna be some like you know, uh, they're they're not. 306 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: They're not tiptoeing up to this ring to argue about 307 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: whether we should have a flat tax or not. Right, 308 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: this is gonna be like you stink, I hate you. Uh, 309 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be nasty between Trump and De Santis, and 310 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: so we were very interested to see how how the 311 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: poll shakes out for this audience. But I just think 312 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: it's interesting for both sides to realize, like why why 313 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: are we speaking about Hey, you know this is the 314 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: upside for De Santis on this issue, or this is 315 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: where I think Trump is hitting him hard on that issue. 316 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: However it goes. We're trying to make sure that we 317 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: have a town square feel here where everybody knows that 318 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: you can call in tell us what you think about 319 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: who's doing what, and we're gonna tell you what we 320 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: think about how it's how it's playing out as a primary. 321 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: Because about half the audience feels one win, give or take. 322 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it's forty percent. I'm you know, it's not scientific, 323 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: but it's a big chunk of the audience feels one 324 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: way and a big chunk of the audience feels another way. 325 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: And that is where we are right now, which is 326 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: why I'm saying it's Alabama Auburn. Since major League Baseball 327 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: is back today, it's Boston Red Sox, New York Yankees. 328 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: You are on one team, and I understand by the way, 329 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of you out there who were just saying, Hey, 330 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: I want to sit back and see how this plays out. 331 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: I will. I told you I always do this for 332 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: people who don't know. When the Tennessee Primary happens my 333 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: home state of Tennessee, I will tell you all how 334 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: I vote in March whenever that's going to be March 335 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four till then I'm gonna sit back 336 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna watch this entire primary season play out, 337 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: because i'mnna be honest with you. I think I'm probably 338 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: like the majority of you. I really like Trump and 339 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: I really like this Antis. I really like both of 340 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: these guys, and I want to see how the campaign 341 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: actually goes. And then I'll be honest with you. In 342 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, you know, mid to late March, whenever 343 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: my opportunity comes to walk into a voting place and 344 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: cast a ballot, I'll tell you what I make the 345 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: choice on. And one side's gonna be furious at me, 346 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: and the other side might be happy. Yes, I'm gonna 347 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 1: make a choice. When Clay votes for John Bolton, just 348 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: remember all of his excellent sports analysis. You know when 349 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: he goes in to the voting booth and has to 350 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: hide his Nicky Haley t shirt. All right, you just 351 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: just don't like go all in on vivic Ramaswami. You 352 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: had no idea what direction I might go by March 353 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: of four, I'll tell you crazy, I think you can't. 354 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: I used to buck you could take a picture, but 355 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: then like justin Timberlake did it in Tennessee, and it's 356 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: actually a crime to take a photo inside of a 357 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: inside of a voting area. I think I didn't know that. 358 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: My friends, we got to talk about the Tunnlet to 359 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: Towers Institute here for a moment. There's a whole generation 360 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: coming up that knows little to nothing about nine to 361 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: eleven what happened on that day. Only two states in 362 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: our nation mandate K to twelve learning for this part 363 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: of our nation's history. That's why the Tunnel to Towers 364 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: nine eleven Institute is giving educators access to non fiction 365 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: nine eleven resources for K through twelve that includes full 366 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: curriculum units built around first person accounts with scripted social studies, lessons, activities, 367 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: and background for teachers. There's also a mobile exhibit, a 368 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: high tech eighty three foot tractor trailer that turns into 369 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: a eleven hundred square foot interactive museum with nine to 370 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: eleven artifacts. To never forget, we must educate future generations. 371 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: Join us in donating eleven dollars a month at t 372 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: twot dot org. That's the tunnlet to Towers Institute Tunnel 373 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: to Towers across the board t the number two t 374 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: Organs play. Just sent someone over to me in the 375 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: break there. So I think this is breaking news my 376 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: friends because it just came out in the last few minutes, 377 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: or the Wall Street Journal. Although it's not new information 378 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: that it's based on, it is being used in a 379 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: new way. So yeah, we'll do the breaking news. You 380 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: gotta come up with a cool sound. We do need 381 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: a sounder, by the way. That's us to us for 382 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: breaking news, Like I don't mean, you know, I don't 383 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: know what the sound should be, but we need a 384 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: we need a breaking news sound, a larger I think 385 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: if the full like ye, yeah, I thinks something like that. 386 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: So the Trump grand jury, we're just talking about Trump. 387 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: By the way, this pull it's amazing, like it's it's 388 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: neck and neck. DeSantis will go up a little Trump 389 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: will go up a little. It's up at Clay and 390 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: Buck dot com. We retweeted it from the Clay and 391 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: Buck Twitter account. So we got a couple of ways 392 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: you can weigh in on this pole. We'll do a 393 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 1: consolidated you know, all in will average the percentage from 394 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: Twitter and the percentage from Clay and Buck dot com 395 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: and see what we end up getting for this. But 396 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, as the overall number. But I see it 397 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: is very very close right now, very tight. So with 398 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: that in mind, we're just talking about Trump. So we've 399 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: been told that for the next month there's not gonna 400 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: be anything new with the grand jury in New York. 401 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: But here's the Wallstreet journal is reporting that Trump grand 402 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: jury digs into hush money paid to a second woman. Now, 403 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: and this is money paid. I remember that this was 404 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: part of the allegations back in the day, money pay 405 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: to former Playboy model Karen McDougal Clay. What is going 406 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: on here, man? With these uh, these allegations the legal 407 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: ease here, what's happening? If I remember these are two 408 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: different stories now, if I remember the way that they 409 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: were paid, meaning obviously they're two different women. Um, Karen 410 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: McDougall was a former Playboy model. Uh. And she was 411 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: supposedly paid one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. But my recollection, 412 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm scrolling through this article to see if I'm correct, 413 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: my recollection is that yeah, here it is. She signed 414 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: a contract with the National Inquirer in August of twenty sixteen. 415 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: This is the so called catching release idea um where 416 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: they will pay someone, The National Inquirer would would pay 417 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: someone for their story and then basically kill it like 418 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: they wouldn't publish it. Is that called catch and kill? Yeah? Yeah, sorry, 419 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: catching kill? Uh? And so that was done by the 420 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: National Inquirer. And remember, do you remember the name of 421 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: the National Inquirer owner. It's kind of amazing. Oh wait, 422 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: wait wait it's a great name, but I don't remember. 423 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: What is it? David Pecker? There you go, David Pecker, 424 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: who also got involved in ironically enough, given his last 425 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: name a Jeff Bezos, you know sexual affair story if 426 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: you remember that. So they've been bringing in David Pecker, 427 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: the former chief executive of this and they may be 428 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: arguing about how exactly that payment occurred. Because just for 429 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: those of you out there that care about this and 430 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: again it's going on as a grand jury, so I 431 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: want to make sure we get this right. The hundred 432 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: and thirty thousand dollars went to Stormy Daniels via Cohen, 433 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: right Trump's attorney, and that's where they tried to argue 434 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: that this was a FEC violation Federal Election Commission. I'm 435 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: not sure how the money, if it was, ever repaid 436 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: to the National Inquirer, or whether the National Enquirer handled 437 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: that hundred and fifty thousand dollars things to hold on. 438 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: Here's the detail. The publisher agreed to transfer the rights 439 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: to McDougall's story to a company controlled by Michael Cohen. 440 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: A consultant then issued an invoice to Cohen, and they 441 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: repaid that as well. So basically, this whole story situation 442 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: is Trump may have he denies it, may have slept 443 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: with these women, and in order to keep them from 444 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: making those allegations public, they paid them to keep silent. 445 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: The irony here and nobody talks about this at all. 446 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: Buck Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in theory 447 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: for these women's stories to never go public, got them 448 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: to sign Inda's Then the women just told their story anyway, 449 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: and nobody ever talks about that, Like, Stormy Daniels got 450 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty thousand dollars to keep her mouth shut. 451 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: She signed an India and then she comes out and 452 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: tells her story anyway, and she gets to keep all 453 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: the money. So it's like, well, hold on a minute, 454 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: what was the point of the NBA in the first place? 455 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: And I think the same thing happened now with Karen McDougall, 456 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: although I don't think she's been as outspoken certainly as 457 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels has. So here we see this again. This 458 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: is the first time the Wall Street Journal reporting this, 459 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: so it's very solid source. This is the first time 460 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: we've seen this brought up in the grand jury that's 461 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: currently underway or that has been underway. It's on a 462 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: one month hiatus. Now. It's not clear to me exactly 463 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: what this is really gonna do you know that whether 464 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: they bring the charge or not, I don't think it's related. 465 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: It makes a difference, I'm sorry, not the charge. Yeah, 466 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: the charge, whether the indictment comes down or not, doesn't 467 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: seem to really hinge on the McDougall component of this. 468 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: But I guess maybe they're trying to say there was 469 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: some kind of a pattern or practice here something like yeah, 470 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: that's my guest. But here's the issue. And this is 471 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: why I keep folkcussing on the legal versus the factual. Okay, 472 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: so just a quick refresher. Juries decide issues of fact, 473 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: Judges decide issues of law. To me, this is a 474 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: case based on law. The statute of limitations has now 475 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: run on this case, so I don't understand how they're 476 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: going to somehow get it in under a statute of limitations. 477 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: But also, this isn't basically a federal crime to the 478 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: extent that it's a crime at all that they are 479 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: trying to massage into a state crime. But Donald Trump 480 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: wasn't running for statewide office. He was running for national office. 481 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: And so I think this case is going to get 482 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: tossed on a legal basis regardless of what the factual 483 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: underpinnings of it are. Does that make sense? Yeah, of 484 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: course all of this is insane. I mean, this is 485 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: really you know democrats that like like like Bragg think 486 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: they're crusading heroes for justice or something by doing this, 487 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: and this is crazy happening. Buck. If Trump had lived 488 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: in Florida, from the get go, because this is this 489 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: is the exposure here is Trump is a Republican candidate 490 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: who happened to live in the state of New York. 491 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: You me, wherever you live, you have to worry about 492 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: federal law, but also state law. I don't think that 493 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: we should be allowing a state political prosecution. And you 494 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 1: saw these numbers. I think as well, Buck, something like 495 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: two thirds of Americans, including a high percentage of Democrats, 496 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: believe that if Trump is charged, it's going to be 497 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: because of politics, not because of its being a crime. 498 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: Which is why we ultimately think this redounds to Trump's 499 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: benefit if he has charged in this case. It couldn't 500 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: be more obvious, right if you're if you're not able 501 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: to get somebody on Russia collusion after a special counsel, 502 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: and you're not able to get them on all these 503 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: other things, and you go with this, I mean, this 504 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: is this is pathetic, these kinds of charges. Nope, who 505 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: is the victim in this process? Dude? That's you know, 506 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: usually you can take these these macro concern into account 507 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: as you're supposed to as a prosecutor. If no one 508 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: is harmed, if the state is not harmed, if a 509 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: person is not harmed, how is anyone being criminally charged? 510 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: And you haven't broken some process egregiously in a way 511 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: that you have to. You know, you have to police 512 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: the breaking of certain norms, like there's no norm here, 513 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: there's no process. The whole thing is crazy. It's a 514 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: great point. And also you can't even argue that this 515 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: is some And again I'm not trying to take a 516 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: shot at Trump here, but the perception of Trump is 517 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: not one where you would be like, oh, I can't 518 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: believe Trump slept with a playboy model. Right. If this 519 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: were George W. Bush or Obama and they have this, hey, 520 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: we're really virtuous people. That is a big part of 521 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: their personal political brands. You can see how that kind 522 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: of accusation might have rattled people who were big George W. 523 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: Bush or Barack Obama supporters. But Buck, let's be honest, 524 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: when the news broke about Bill Clinton hooking up with 525 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: an intern, most people were like, yeah, I could totally 526 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: see that, and it doesn't impact Bill Clinton's political brand 527 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: to me. Also, to your point, building on who is 528 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: who is the victim here, I don't even think it 529 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: changes the way that lots of people think about Trump. 530 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't think people thought, oh, I'm voting for Trump 531 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: because he's the greatest husband who's ever existed on the planet. 532 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: I think even Trump would laugh at that idea. Right, 533 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: he's been married three times, whatever it is. I don't 534 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: particularly care about the personal peccadillos of political figures if 535 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: they are good candidates, right, if they're good at their job. 536 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: And I think that's where people were with Clinton and Trump. 537 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: So I don't even see this as some sort of 538 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: debilitating revelation that would change the over wouldn't affected the campaign, 539 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: It wouldn't have affected Trump's ability to win at all. 540 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think if the if, the if, 541 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: the release of the audio from the Current Affair or 542 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: whatever show it was, the grabber by the pussy Willow clip, 543 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: if that didn't change things, Certainly this wasn't going to 544 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: change things. 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Sunday 562 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: Hang with Clay and Buck. A new podcast. Find it 563 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: on the iheartapp or wherever you get your podcasts, whoas 564 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: and up shop. On the thirsday edition Clay Travis buck 565 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Encourage all of you to go subscribe to 566 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast. Want to also 567 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: encourage all of you to go vote in our poll, 568 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: and we're asking you whether you are right now if 569 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: the primary season we're underway, would you vote for Donald Trump. 570 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: Would you vote for Ron de Santis? The crew can 571 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: tell me what the latest numbers are on the website 572 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: if they would send me that text and update me 573 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: on those numbers. You can go to Clay and Buck 574 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: dot com and vote in that poll. It is up 575 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: on the front page of the website. You'll be able 576 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: to easily find it, or you can vote in on 577 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: Twitter if you follow our Twitter feed at Clay and Buck. 578 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: You can also follow at Buck Sexton. You can also 579 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: follow at Clay Travis and we have retweeted that poll. 580 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: So all of you out there have the right to 581 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: have your voices heard and Buck. As I am looking 582 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: right now, first of all, the poll has been up 583 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: for less than an hour. Over twenty thousand of you 584 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: have voted, and online it is wow. So I'm trying 585 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: to do the math in my head right now, and 586 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm not great at live math, but this is crazy online. 587 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: So this is on the Clay and Buck website. Over 588 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: four thousand of you have voted there. Encourage you to 589 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: go to that if you're not on social media. De 590 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: Santis is winning fifty one to forty nine. Okay, that 591 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: is the web clayin Buck dot com website fifty one 592 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: forty nine to Santis on the On the Twitter poll, 593 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: Trump is winning fifty five to forty five with nearly 594 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: twenty thousand votes in that particular poll. So if you 595 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: are out there right now and you're like, oh, how 596 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: is this thing going to play out? I wonder what 597 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck audience think we have around was 598 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: that twenty five thousand of you who have voted in 599 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: the first hour and it's basically a total dead heat. 600 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: Trump is winning by about six or seven points I 601 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: think would be the math. Yeah, and this is just 602 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: a reminder, I mean, because we know it's not scientific, 603 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: and we know that only a very small fraction of 604 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: you actually listening have voted in the poll, but we 605 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: can use it as an indicator of it's gonna be 606 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: tight yea, or it could say it is tight at 607 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: least right now. We'll see what ends up what ends 608 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: up happening, and how the primary plays out. But you know, 609 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: I guess we could have put more be interesting. Maybe 610 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: well later in the week we can do a broader 611 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: pole to see if there are people because some folks 612 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: are right in, you know, on the Twitter poll at 613 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: least Nicky Haley and the vek Ramaswami and I'm like, oh, okay, 614 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: I guess we can include them too. Yeah, I mean, oh, look, 615 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: I think those guys are going to have their supporters. 616 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: I haven't seen anybody that looks to me like they're 617 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: going to be a double digit guy or girl, right, 618 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: And frankly, I think if you're a Trump supporter, you 619 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: probably want as many contenders as possible, because I do 620 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: think the Trump third of the GOP base is probably 621 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: the most rock solid in terms of they're voting for him, 622 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what happens in the primary season, doesn't matter 623 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: all the conversations. That's the most reliable base. And you 624 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,239 Speaker 1: want the Trump that has gone to train in the 625 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: deep snow of Siberia, like Sylvester Stallone and Rocky four, 626 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: Like you want the Trump going up against Biden, and 627 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: really the Biden machine, the Democrat machine. Biden's kind of irrelevant, 628 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: but you want the Trump going up against the Democrat machine. 629 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: If you are a Trump, a Trump person already in 630 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: this primary, that you want the strongest version of Trump 631 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: you can get for twenty twenty four. And I think 632 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: that having to fight it out in the primary a 633 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: little bit, I know, having to make the case. This 634 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: is why we have primaries, right, there's a reason we 635 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: have a primary. We don't just have a Hey, who 636 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: do you guys want, and then we just decide based 637 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: on that. We have we have debates, we have a process, 638 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: We have a period of time here, so no matter 639 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: who you want, the point of this is that it 640 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: can make the candidates first of all, make their case 641 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: to undecided people, which is a whole lot of people 642 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: I think in the GOP, but also make them better 643 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: candidates in the general, which is what we really care about. 644 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing to see de Santa's people, a 645 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: Trump people at the state sometimes saying they get very 646 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: mad at each other, and sometimes I wouldn't remind them, 647 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, you guys agree on ninety nine percent of stuff, 648 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: like for the country, and you know you actually agree 649 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: on a vast majority of things, so it's always good. Yeah. Look, 650 00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: and if DeSantis didn't run, we effectively would have no 651 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: primary campaign on either side, because I mentioned that's what 652 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: it would be for basically two years, except Biden had 653 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: to win the primary, so at least there was some 654 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: drama on the Democrat side, whereas for the Republican side Trump. 655 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: Nobody ran against Trump, really, and now without the Santists, 656 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: we're basically sweeping right into a rematch in twenty four 657 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: without even any battles going on. And I think, look, 658 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: the best version of Trump is not based in mar Lago. 659 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: Marlogos fabulously beautiful. It's fantastic spot. But Trump is at 660 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: his best when he's out at the East Palestine McDonald's, 661 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: when he's grabbing ice cream in South Carolina, right, Um, 662 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: and the Santis makes you wanna, you know, eat some 663 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: caviare and and go play badminton or something. You know. 664 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: It's he's putting in, you know, thirty six holes in 665 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: golf every day. I mean, it's not a bad spot, 666 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: it's beautiful, um, but it's not necessarily reflective of where 667 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: the Trump bases. And similarly, you mentioned this DeSantis lost 668 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: twenty pounds like he's getting trim for the fighting shape. 669 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: And uh, I don't know. We'll see, We'll see what 670 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: happens when or if he officially announces. And I will 671 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: say this buck because I wanted to mention it. I 672 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 1: shared it. Go read it. Mansion comes off the top rope. 673 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: Maybe tomorrow we can talk about this. Is there a 674 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: possibility Mansion did off the top rope on Joe Biden 675 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: called him a basically called him a liar. Is there 676 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: a possibility Mansion taps out on the Senate and sides 677 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: to run against Biden in the twenty twenty four Democrat campaign. 678 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't think so. But then again, all I know 679 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: is Mansion folded, he bent the knee, he did, went 680 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: along and we said it live on this show. What 681 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion, what are you doing? Is this just a 682 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: pivot to try to make him palatable for West Virginians 683 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: don't vote for Democrat West Virginia. Or is he potentially 684 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: going to challenge Biden and uses his justification this I 685 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: think it's a treaty. Tomorrow's guest, by the way, Benjamin Hall, 686 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: Fox News State farmer correspondent, author of Saved the War, 687 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: reporter's Mission to Make at Home. We're looking forward to 688 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: talking to Benjamin about his book and everything else tomorrow, 689 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: So join us then, Flat Travis and Buck Sexton on 690 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 1: the front lines of truth