WEBVTT - The Temptation to Spend is Getting Real #350

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I and Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're talking about how the temptation to spend is

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<v Speaker 1>getting realm. That's Rachel. As our lives resumed some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of normalcy, the sirens are calling calling out there. They're

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<v Speaker 1>calling us over to the rocks of retail consumption. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me your credit card information, whether online or in person.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. No, this is what this episode is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be all about. We're talking about spending our money and

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<v Speaker 1>specifically to make sure that we're doing it wisely. That way, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't end up crashing against the rocks of personal finance.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess those those rocks of this cliffs would

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<v Speaker 1>be like bunted budget bankruptcy. Uh that that would be

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest rock that you could, Yeah, you go against.

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<v Speaker 1>But even just like credit card debt, that that's unintended,

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<v Speaker 1>the consequences that are there if you do ever spend.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Matt like, there's this particular temptation right

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<v Speaker 1>now as the economy is reopening and people are getting

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<v Speaker 1>vaccinated and they want to start spending in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that's maybe what they were used to ahead of coronavirus.

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<v Speaker 1>But but even more so, like an even more ramped

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<v Speaker 1>up version of spending for a lot of people is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what they're being beckoned to do. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we want to push back against that and

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<v Speaker 1>and help all of us to think through, Okay, how

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<v Speaker 1>do we start to spend money as the economy reopens.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about that today, but before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to that, man, I wanted to let you know, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of spending, Uh, we're we're about to do a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of work at our house, and it is going

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<v Speaker 1>to cost money. Um, but I'm looking for as many

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<v Speaker 1>ways as possible to make that work cost less money.

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<v Speaker 1>And so one of the things I found out about

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<v Speaker 1>from a friend. There's this place called life Cycle in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's basically this huge warehouse of old doors, tile lighting,

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<v Speaker 1>life fixtures, um anything really you could matter place. Mantel

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<v Speaker 1>pieces like it looked like they came out of like

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<v Speaker 1>old castles, basically bath tubs, vanities. I mean really, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the eye can see, you're looking at pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of older homes, like and or poor things that just

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<v Speaker 1>were never used in the first place. Similar stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>brand new at that place, but it's just deeply discounted,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we went this weekend as a family to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of check it out, and man, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good stuff that that we're totally considering in

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, like with like a door, you can save

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<v Speaker 1>so much money buying the door gently used instead of

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<v Speaker 1>buying it brand new. Um, it's just one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things that you know, a lot of towns have a

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<v Speaker 1>habitat restore and that's a place worth going to. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got one right around the corner from from where we

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<v Speaker 1>live here. But life Cycle was like ten times a size. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like the Walmart of of like reused

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in in our town at least, But it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a Walmart. It feels more like an antique store,

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<v Speaker 1>right Like. I feel like that's the biggest difference between

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<v Speaker 1>like a life Cycle and a Habitat restore is like

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<v Speaker 1>stuff at a habitat restore it kind of us feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a Walmart. You know, it's like kind of subpar products.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll have a bunch of things that are brand new

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<v Speaker 1>that just are kind of i don't know, like lower

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<v Speaker 1>quality basically, whereas like the life cycle of grade materials. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not that builder grade means bad necessarily, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We do feel that way. The language we use points

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<v Speaker 1>to that. But but yeah, like the life cycle, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's it's more like an antique store and

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<v Speaker 1>you can find really cool old stuff. And I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>like now, we went there specifically to look for a

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<v Speaker 1>wood burning stove. This is a few years ago back

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<v Speaker 1>when we were first thinking about adding a wood burning

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<v Speaker 1>stove to our house, and we couldn't find one. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reason we knew that they would have them occasionally

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<v Speaker 1>is because we've seen them there before. So yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if where you live you have one of

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<v Speaker 1>these types of places, but if you do, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a great spot to find some high quality used

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, kind of antique pieces of old homes.

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned doors. I mean that's exactly what like

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<v Speaker 1>the next time Kate and I get like, we're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about maybe swapping out our front door because dude, like

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<v Speaker 1>our front door kind of sucks. Like it's very clearly

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<v Speaker 1>from the nineties. It kind of has like cut glass

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<v Speaker 1>design and it's a solid door. It's perfectly fine, but

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<v Speaker 1>it would be really cool if we were able to

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<v Speaker 1>find one that was made of wood that was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a little more I don't know, something more

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<v Speaker 1>original to to our house instead of this, uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>store that was put in, you know, over twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you want something like a hundred years old

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<v Speaker 1>like like that actually fits the style exactly. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the whole rest of our house looks very old except

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<v Speaker 1>for this weird store exactly got a modern door, so well,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the place to look. And then I saw

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<v Speaker 1>some light fixtures there that were just incredible, some of

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<v Speaker 1>which look like they belong in a ballroom or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I mean, just some really cool stuff. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just hang that up in your bathroom. Yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I could. People would hit their heads on it would

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<v Speaker 1>be way too big. But it's uh, it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where I think there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people who could benefit from shopping in a place like

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<v Speaker 1>that as opposed to just instinctively going to the big

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<v Speaker 1>box store that sells the big box hardware store. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna save some money, there's gonna be less waste involved,

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<v Speaker 1>and you might find something that you like better too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you way more likely to find something unique there,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Let's introduce the beer for this episode. This

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<v Speaker 1>is actually another non alcoholic near beer from Right Side

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<v Speaker 1>Brewing and this is their Citrus Wheet. Looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying this one and talking about it at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the episode. But let's move on to the subject

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<v Speaker 1>at hand, Matt. Today unless year, we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>temptation to spend. It's getting real and Uh. When we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about what this episode would look like, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>it made me think about I know there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people out there that beat themselves up over a

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<v Speaker 1>purchase that they made that they can't take back, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably not the healthiest thing to do. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>something I've done before when I've made a purchase and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I go past the return window and now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stuck with it, right, uh, and I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>will break myself over the coals. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>just gotta get a couple of jabs in so that

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<v Speaker 1>I remember not to do that in the future. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably not like jabs on your own self. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably not healthy, not the best way to approach it,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes that happens, right and Um, over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>I have become I would say a better spender. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was a more thoughtless spender when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we all need a dose of like

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<v Speaker 1>thoughtfulness when it comes to how we spend, and right

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<v Speaker 1>now is a crucial time to discuss spending in more detail.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been stories already talking about how American spending

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<v Speaker 1>is ramping up, and it's specifically on clothing. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the items people are spending more on their wardrobes

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<v Speaker 1>these days. And apparently comes after a year he's basically like, Wow, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I shouldn't go out in public with the sweatpants

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<v Speaker 1>on it, right, Yeah, because they're going out in public more,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas we hold up in our homes there for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. And it kind of seemed to think that

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<v Speaker 1>that that this could be an early hint of a

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<v Speaker 1>spending spree unlike anything we've ever seen before, that the

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<v Speaker 1>floodgates of spending are opening in this country. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think part of it's because of the influx of

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<v Speaker 1>stimulus money, the economic recovery really being in full swing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then folks being just a little bit tired of

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<v Speaker 1>being at home as much as they have been spending

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<v Speaker 1>money might feel like the only sane thing for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of folks to do. And I think we're okay

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<v Speaker 1>with people spending more money, but there are some important

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<v Speaker 1>things to take into consideration before we just go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and start spending ad nausea. Yeah, you know, since

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<v Speaker 1>there is so much of this pent up demand, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be easy to, I think, to fall prey

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<v Speaker 1>to some poor spending choices. It kind of makes me

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<v Speaker 1>think of, like maybe what it must be for for

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<v Speaker 1>someone living abroad for a year or two, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you probably over indulge on cheeseburgers, like maybe for a

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<v Speaker 1>month or two, like like once you come back to

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<v Speaker 1>the States. For many of us, it doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we've spent much over the past year. We've essentially been

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<v Speaker 1>forced into spending less because of COVID lockdowns and the

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<v Speaker 1>inability to to eat out at our favorite spots at all,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for a while, or as maybe as frequently

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<v Speaker 1>as we might have before. But again, yeah, we just

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that we're not getting carried away

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<v Speaker 1>as more of us get vaccinated and get back to

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<v Speaker 1>at least a bit more normalcy than we've been used to.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what we're discussing today how to spend our

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<v Speaker 1>money more wisely. Yeah, and a lot of Americans are

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<v Speaker 1>in a decent spot when it comes to the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of death that they've been raking up on their credit cards.

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<v Speaker 1>According to one of the major credit bureaus, Experience, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a seventy three billion dollar decrease in overall credit

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<v Speaker 1>card debt last year, and a lot of that was

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<v Speaker 1>due to the pandemic. People were taking extra money they had,

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<v Speaker 1>they were paying off their credit card debt instead of

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<v Speaker 1>racking up more, and that means that it was about

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<v Speaker 1>an average decrease of eight hundred and seventy nine dollars

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<v Speaker 1>on the average credit card balance. That's great news for

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of folks. But the trick now is

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that we don't immediately return to our

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<v Speaker 1>old ways. It's okay to spend money, but the temptation

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<v Speaker 1>to spend more than you can afford to or should

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<v Speaker 1>be spending right is going to be real in the

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<v Speaker 1>coming months. That allure to spend and let that credit

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<v Speaker 1>card debt hang around just a little bit longer than

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<v Speaker 1>you planned to let it hang around is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be real to you. You can probably justify it as

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<v Speaker 1>your spending desires increase, so it's important to do what

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<v Speaker 1>you can to combat those urges. And we've got some

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<v Speaker 1>ideas on how to do that for you today. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In that same report by Experience, they talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>different states who that that normally carry the highest credit

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<v Speaker 1>card balances and how they saw the highest percentage of

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<v Speaker 1>decreased amount of debt on their credit cards, meaning that

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<v Speaker 1>though those states were carrying large balances, those folks showed

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible amount of control over their finances when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to it, you know. And so that just highlights

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we do have way more control than

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<v Speaker 1>I think we give ourselves credit for. And an important

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<v Speaker 1>part of this is to question sort of the the

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<v Speaker 1>deeper reasons why it is that we're tempted to spend money,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like ask yourself, do you actually need the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you've been pining after or maybe you're just bored.

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<v Speaker 1>Pinpointing the root cause can help you to react, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>differently in the future. U It can remind you maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, the browsing that you're doing or the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that you're buying. It's really just an attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even just paper over something else that's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, often being bored or maybe even being sad.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, if you are able to recognize those things,

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<v Speaker 1>those are feelings that you don't need to just shove

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<v Speaker 1>deeper inside that you don't address. This is something you

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<v Speaker 1>need to talk to your friend or talk to your

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<v Speaker 1>partner about. We're not fans of retail therapy at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and we feel that if you were to try to

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<v Speaker 1>spend your way out of that dull drum, that's, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably gonna find yourself in an even worse position

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<v Speaker 1>down the road. Yeah. Instead of retail therapy, you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually spend money to get actual therapy, like talk to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody and get some real thing. Yeah, and that that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a whole lot better for you and a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot, whole lot better for your budget. Yeah. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear folks say that it's yeah, more affordable to

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<v Speaker 1>go shopping than it is to go see a counselor

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, in reality, I actually think that would be

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<v Speaker 1>a wiser decision. You can go and see ac counselor

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<v Speaker 1>go and talk to somebody, and yeah, the shopping habit

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<v Speaker 1>can get more expensive than seeking professional help us for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also important to remember that there are meaningful trade

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<v Speaker 1>offs and other sacrifices that you're making when you do

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<v Speaker 1>spend haphazardly. It's really tough to see them in the

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<v Speaker 1>moment when you're blinded by the cool new item and

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<v Speaker 1>all you can think is how much better would things

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<v Speaker 1>be in my life if I own that? If I

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<v Speaker 1>like got on my credit card and made sure that

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<v Speaker 1>was in my life right now, that's what you're feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>But the truth is that purchase, if it's done on

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<v Speaker 1>a whim, is likely not something that will bring much

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<v Speaker 1>joy or satisfaction in your life over the long run,

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<v Speaker 1>and it will actually detract from the bigger and more

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<v Speaker 1>significant things that not spending that money does for you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it's important to have those bigger money goals

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<v Speaker 1>identified so that you can look to those as your

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<v Speaker 1>guiding light when that spending appetite begins to gnaw at you. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>having a bigger goal helps you see exactly the trade

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<v Speaker 1>off that you're making when you make piddally smaller purchases,

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<v Speaker 1>because those are eating away at the bigger goal, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to see that in real time. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the reasons why it's you know, important

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<v Speaker 1>to make wise purchases. And aside from the financial applications,

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<v Speaker 1>curry being the massive amount of trash, dude, in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the waste you know, that we create every single day,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great reason to avoid falling prey to that

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<v Speaker 1>spending temptation that we're that we're being faced with. Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the e p A, we create around five

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<v Speaker 1>pounds of waste every single day, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>mind blowing, Like five pounds is a lot. And to

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<v Speaker 1>the largest amount of waste that's filling up our landfills

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<v Speaker 1>is food, which is at around of all that goes

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<v Speaker 1>to landfills, and plastics, which is like that second and

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<v Speaker 1>that's at eight. And these are two areas that I feel,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, again, we have tremendous amount of control over

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<v Speaker 1>UH and spending wisely could have a pretty huge impact

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<v Speaker 1>on the amount of waste in our lives, on the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of waste that we're you know, that's getting hauled

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<v Speaker 1>off to the landfills. Have. The less we consume, the

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<v Speaker 1>less waste we're producing. Literally, the less we consume or

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<v Speaker 1>think we're gonna consume, and then to just throw in

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<v Speaker 1>the trash, like we think we're gonna eat that food,

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<v Speaker 1>but instead it just goes to waste. And same I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and just plastics as well. I mean, so much in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives is just made from plastic, whether it's packaging,

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<v Speaker 1>if for other stuff that we buy, or just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>throw away goods that are meant to be obsolete after

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<v Speaker 1>a year. Yeah, it's a financial and an environmental problem

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time that we're basically working to remedy

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<v Speaker 1>with our actions, um and by avoiding some of the

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<v Speaker 1>spending temptations that that pop up. And not only is

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<v Speaker 1>mindless spending bad for the environment, it's likely just it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a very good thing for us as individuals as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Over, spending at restaurants isn't great for our health.

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<v Speaker 1>If we opt for a dessert and two drinks on

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<v Speaker 1>top of our on top of our main course, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to not only gain weight, but we're gonna spend

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<v Speaker 1>more money. Or like the fried foods. For me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>always the fried foods because like we don't fry food

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<v Speaker 1>at home, and so like when I look at a menu,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always like, okay, what is your Yeah, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what what's on the men you here that we never

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<v Speaker 1>cook at home? Because to me, that's you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where the value lies. But it's also not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not good for my arteries. I'm always going for

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<v Speaker 1>the French fries. Truth. Yeah, And I think to buying

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<v Speaker 1>on a whim reduces our own self discipline and it

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<v Speaker 1>turns our focus inward as opposed to looking around to others.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an entire host of reasons why it's bad to

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<v Speaker 1>impulse spend. So we're gonna give some concrete ways to

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<v Speaker 1>help you curb unwide spending, to avoid some of those

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<v Speaker 1>spending temptations. They're gonna be cropping up more and more.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to those right after this break. Al Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we are back. We're talking about how the temptation to

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<v Speaker 1>spend money, how it's just getting a credib the real

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<v Speaker 1>these days. Angel, Let's just talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that we can do instead of actually spending our money.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're maybe thinking about making a purchase,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna offer up a few different mental tricks, some

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<v Speaker 1>different tactics here that can help you to avoid those

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<v Speaker 1>on wise decisions. First of all, one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>we suggest, and you're kind of touching on this before

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<v Speaker 1>the break, but uh, substitute that temptation to spend with

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<v Speaker 1>a financial goal. If you pause long enough, can you

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<v Speaker 1>identify something that you would maybe rather do with your

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<v Speaker 1>money instead of spend it. We challenge you to to

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<v Speaker 1>think through like what, really, you know, big and crazy

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<v Speaker 1>goal could you reach if you opted out of this

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<v Speaker 1>short term purchase. So for you, it might help to

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<v Speaker 1>run some basic math to see what those unspent funds

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<v Speaker 1>can turn into if you keep it in your bank account,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe even if you invest it instead of spending it,

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<v Speaker 1>say maybe on that new watch. And as we say this,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think that doesn't get me very excited at all,

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<v Speaker 1>like saving money or investing that money and sticking it

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<v Speaker 1>in the bank, Uh, that doesn't get me pumped to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything, right. I think what we would say then

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<v Speaker 1>is that you need to think two bigger goals. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't get sided about like some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>far off goal that's going to take you multiple years

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<v Speaker 1>to achieve. I think that means you're not dreaming big enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that means you're signed up and you're pursuing somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else's goal, you know, Like you've heard that is good

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<v Speaker 1>to save for a retirement, But in your mind, anytime

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<v Speaker 1>you say retirement, you just kind of die a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit inside, Like for you, maybe that means, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>feels very far away. And obviously we've talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>retirement it just brings a different connotation to it than

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<v Speaker 1>financial independence. And so maybe it's just semantics, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe for you, what that means is instead of

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<v Speaker 1>saying retirement, I'm saving to become financially independent, I'm saving

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<v Speaker 1>up to be able to start my own business, to

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<v Speaker 1>owning your own time at an earlier age. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so just whatever it is, figure out what that is. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's travel. It's not retirement, it's the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>travel around the world and just see lots of amazing

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<v Speaker 1>things that you've never been able to see up until

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<v Speaker 1>this point. But dream bigger, like like identify whatever goals

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<v Speaker 1>it is that get you excited to avoid some of

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<v Speaker 1>these smaller, dumber, you know, purchases in the near term. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some things that we have to buy in order

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<v Speaker 1>to get by, but there's a lot of stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives that we per just you know, like we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about earlier, because we're kind of feeling bummed out

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<v Speaker 1>and we're thinking, Okay, maybe maybe if I just get

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<v Speaker 1>a little hit of that dopamine. Uh, look, left my

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<v Speaker 1>spirits a little bit when I know that package is

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<v Speaker 1>going to show up in the next two days, you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think another I think another way, Matt, to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of help curb some of that temptations. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>that desire to just spend right now is to do

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<v Speaker 1>some sprint cleaning of the stuff that you already have.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like nothing actually helps curb spending like

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<v Speaker 1>getting rid of a bunch of stuff and realizing that

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<v Speaker 1>a clean, organized house is a treasure in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've we have been doing a lot of sprin

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<v Speaker 1>cleaning at our house. Some of the stuff we're able

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<v Speaker 1>to donate some of us just trash that we've been

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<v Speaker 1>holding onto, like literally just needs to go in the trash.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the literal garbage. Yes, broken toys that

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<v Speaker 1>are just completely worthless, Like why are we hanging onto this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's broken, and it's it's not reparable. Uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes you not want to fill that house back up

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<v Speaker 1>with new stuff. When you go through that exercise. So

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<v Speaker 1>just the act of like tossing some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>out of your home can really curb that desire to

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<v Speaker 1>spend money, because you're like, I just spend all this

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<v Speaker 1>time getting rid of stuff, making my house kind of

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<v Speaker 1>feel a little more zen, a little more minimalist, and

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<v Speaker 1>now more peaceful. A little more peaceful. Yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>some candles litting out and it smells oils. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just kind of makes you not want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring a bunch of a bunch of junk to clutter

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<v Speaker 1>back up. Yeah. Yeah, you're talking about being inspired basically

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<v Speaker 1>by like a clean and orderly house, but like even

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<v Speaker 1>to just thinking about the items that you're getting rid of,

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<v Speaker 1>Like at some point you spend money on those things,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you you decided that, Okay, if I

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<v Speaker 1>trade my hard earned money for these items, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>solve a problem, it's gonna make me happier, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make somebody happier. And then by kind of purging and

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<v Speaker 1>just removing all these things from your life, like you

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<v Speaker 1>can identify these things and you and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>can be a reminder to keep us from future purchases.

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<v Speaker 1>As well, right, Like, you see these things and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>at some point I thought this was gonna bring me happiness,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I'm selling it for pennies on opennies on

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<v Speaker 1>the dollar, or I'm just giving it away or just

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<v Speaker 1>throwing it away. I think that can be a good

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<v Speaker 1>reminder as well too. You know, as we look forward

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<v Speaker 1>and look ahead more purchases in our lives that they

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<v Speaker 1>may not fulfill us in the way that we thought

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<v Speaker 1>they would. And you could, I guess while you're doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if you remember the price of the your throwing away,

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<v Speaker 1>write that down. But just too much weeding, I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so you know. One trick to like you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about kind of cleaning out your house. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a tactic that we can employ to show

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<v Speaker 1>us how little we need and you know how little

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<v Speaker 1>you actually use, is that just basically turn all your

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<v Speaker 1>clothes backwards on the rack in your closet and only

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<v Speaker 1>turn them around once you wear them. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>way that a lot of folks recommend, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to kind of downsizing your closet, because then

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the year, you can give away

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<v Speaker 1>all the clothes that you don't end up wearing over

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<v Speaker 1>the past twelve months, and so this can be helpful

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<v Speaker 1>to declutter and remind yourself of just how many things

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<v Speaker 1>you own that you don't consistently use. It's a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good reminder that most of us don't need

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<v Speaker 1>new stuff. We just want it. We wanted to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fill these different voids that you know truly can't

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<v Speaker 1>be filled by purchasing more stuff. And it's not actually

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<v Speaker 1>a physical void in your wardrobe. It's like a void

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere inside of us. Typically, oh yeah, you know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically our closets don't have the void. Like that's the problem, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's not that I need the extra sweater.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a sweaters. I'm trying to do something inside with

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<v Speaker 1>my internal of my internal happiness, gauge to like ramp

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<v Speaker 1>that up by buying the sweater. It's not that I

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<v Speaker 1>need another one. I feel like in order to start

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<v Speaker 1>saying that a sweater is gonna make you feel good

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<v Speaker 1>about yourself, you have to be like grandfather age. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're like or actually socks that like that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the thing for us once we get older, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>just want a good pair of socks. I do like

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<v Speaker 1>a good pair of socks, and I'm not that old

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<v Speaker 1>you and Jacob Goldstein's when it's right, I think. I

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<v Speaker 1>think another way that you can tackle the temptation to

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<v Speaker 1>spend more money right now is to go the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>direction and attempt to make some quick money. Selling some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff that you just cleaned out can be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the agin to your spending yang. Earning

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<v Speaker 1>money from the stuff that you aren't using anymore provides

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<v Speaker 1>a similar reward in your brain, yet it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>nearly the same harmful side effects. You're you're making progress end,

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<v Speaker 1>you're making cash, and so it feels awesome. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we would suggest listing some of that stuff on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>Marketplace or eBay and turn your weakness into a new strength.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if you really do need to buy some

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<v Speaker 1>new things to replace some of the stuff that you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting rid of, limiting the amount you spend to what

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to make from selling off some of those

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<v Speaker 1>old possessions is a great way to restrain consumption and

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<v Speaker 1>keep your budget intact, Because if you're not actually spending

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<v Speaker 1>money that you don't have, putting it on the credit card,

0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.000
<v Speaker 1>racking up debt, or even just hurting your budget and

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<v Speaker 1>and hurting those long term goals even if you have

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<v Speaker 1>the money on hand. Such an awesome way to buy

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<v Speaker 1>some of those things that you really are prioritizing is

0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.959
<v Speaker 1>to do it with money that you just made from

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<v Speaker 1>getting rid of other stuff you already had. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's another way that you can avoid the temptation to

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<v Speaker 1>spend money is instead of actually purchasing an item, look

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<v Speaker 1>to borrow that item from someone else. Right. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we have an obsession with ownership here in our culture,

0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.440
<v Speaker 1>in our country. Uh, you know, it can be good

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to some things like investments, but for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, when it comes to I think consumer

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<v Speaker 1>goods tends to be a little overrated and at least

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<v Speaker 1>one shirt and one pair of pants, ownership is not overrated.

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<v Speaker 1>You should have you should have that definitely should have

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<v Speaker 1>them at a minimum. That's that's why it's foundational in

0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:13.640
<v Speaker 1>the hierarchy of needs. But beyond that, it's not necessary. Um,

0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think we even feel the need to

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<v Speaker 1>own things that we will only maybe even just use

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<v Speaker 1>once or twice in our lifetime. Like folks who have

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and like by us at of skis,

0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:24.560
<v Speaker 1>like snow skis, and it's like, oh yeah, like that's

0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:26.760
<v Speaker 1>not something we ever do, but like why do I

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<v Speaker 1>own these? Actually when you live in Georgia and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I often actually get out to ski, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's good because it saves us money, right,

0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.400
<v Speaker 1>but it also deepens the relational bond that we have

0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:38.000
<v Speaker 1>with our neighbors or you know, between us and our friends.

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:40.800
<v Speaker 1>People love helping each other out. Yeah, I think we

0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:44.199
<v Speaker 1>underestimate that, Matt, and I think because our culture it

0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:48.360
<v Speaker 1>prizes self sufficiency so high, so highly, we we feel

0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 1>like we're imposing when we ask a friend if we

0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:52.520
<v Speaker 1>can borrow something. But I feel like the opposite is

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.240
<v Speaker 1>actually true. And usually they're glad to lend a hand,

0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're glad that the thing that they own is

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<v Speaker 1>going to get some use because maybe it's been sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in their shed or you know, in a storage spot

0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 1>in their house for a long time and it hasn't

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.720
<v Speaker 1>gotten any use. I recently borrowed a shovel from a

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 1>friend because mine broke, and dude, he was so happy

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:12.959
<v Speaker 1>to let me borrow it. You're shoveling too hard. When

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<v Speaker 1>ship I was man, that's like I didn't know my

0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.920
<v Speaker 1>own strength, you know. And uh, and then I feel

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:21.560
<v Speaker 1>like now it's opened. It's open this line where hey,

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 1>if he needs to borrow anything in the future, he'll

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:27.200
<v Speaker 1>call me. There's this reciprocal relationship right where we can

0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:30.040
<v Speaker 1>borrow stuff from each other. And that's just a nice

0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.600
<v Speaker 1>thing to have. And and it it goes beyond just

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<v Speaker 1>me not having to drop the twenty bucks on a shovel,

0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.360
<v Speaker 1>right and eventually I'm gonna need my own shovel because

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<v Speaker 1>the shovel is one of those things that you use

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit, right, Um, But it's borrowing someone's microwave

0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 1>sort of. It's like, maybe, can't borrow your pants. You

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that unless I don't know, maybe

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a if it's like a tuxedo and you never

0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.159
<v Speaker 1>wear a tuxedo, and it's yeah, that's the kind of

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 1>thing you can borrow from somebody, I think. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>just nice to have friends like that, um, that will

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<v Speaker 1>lend you something. And it's actually be a friend like

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<v Speaker 1>that that's that's willing to lend people the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you have. And and I think that the more that

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<v Speaker 1>we live in a society where we can share with

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:10.720
<v Speaker 1>each other, like, the better the world is, you know,

0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the better we feel about our relationships. That's so true. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Also to a way they can avoid some of these

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 1>unwise purchases is just by factoring in secondary costs before

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:23.359
<v Speaker 1>you actually complete that purchase. Right, everything costs more than

0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you think. We've talked about this on the show before.

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.399
<v Speaker 1>The actual cost of the item that you're buying is

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<v Speaker 1>almost always going to be more than the price tag

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<v Speaker 1>that you see on it or you know, or that

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>sale price if it's on sale. Shipping is often free,

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.119
<v Speaker 1>but you might get charged for some shipping costs. There

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 1>are often sales taxes and you know, maintenance costs. Uh,

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:42.400
<v Speaker 1>there may be monthly fees for you know, the item,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what you're bringing into your life and also too,

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:46.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, just generally speaking, here, don't forget about the

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Didero effect, right, and this is the idea that getting

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 1>something new, it's gonna lead to you wanting even more,

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:53.800
<v Speaker 1>something even newer to match that new thing. All of

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.199
<v Speaker 1>your old stuff he's gonna start looking kind of shabby.

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Once you get that one upgrade, it kind of leads

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<v Speaker 1>to this this sort of downward spiral of consumption. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a slippery slope and that's something that we want you

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid. Yeah, and I think like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best examples of something costing more than you think is

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 1>let's say you're getting a new set of golf clubs

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what, now, you're probably gonna want some

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<v Speaker 1>of the fancier golf balls to go along with it,

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>right because like the the off brand whatever set of

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>golf balls just isn't gonna do it with those sweet

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 1>new titlist clubs, or the or the range balls that

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you stole from the driving range. Like you know who,

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you are not gonna cut it. We know what you did.

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:36.360
<v Speaker 1>And like then you might get the itch to get

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>like fantier golf clothes or to to start playing at

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 1>nicer courses. Um. I call this the if you give

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:45.160
<v Speaker 1>a mouse a cookie syndrome, Right, It's like he's gonna

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 1>want something else, and then he's gonna want something else

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna trigger more and more. And there's truly

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<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with doing something like upgrading golf clubs. If

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<v Speaker 1>this is a purchase that you spent some real time

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<v Speaker 1>thinking through and it's a hobby that you're committed to,

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<v Speaker 1>right that you do on the regular, but taking those

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 1>secondary costs in the consideration, it might make you think twice.

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Like even if you are an avid golfer, you might

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<v Speaker 1>be like, actually, I am going to forego the golf

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>clubs because I do realize it's gonna it's gonna force me,

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>or it's at least gonna encourage me to spend money

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:17.360
<v Speaker 1>more money in other areas of that hobby, and I'm

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 1>not I'm just not ready to do that, So I'm

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna continue to put that purchase off. But thinking about

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 1>those secondary costs ahead of time before we make the

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:27.120
<v Speaker 1>plunge into a purchase can really help us see how

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 1>much that one purchase is actually going to cost us

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to the price tag, the initial price tag

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>and that we think it's gonna cost us. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go into those decisions with your eyes open,

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>because even something that's basic as like a bike, like

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>we're you know, we're huge fans of bicycling. We're big

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<v Speaker 1>advocates of everything that you know bicyling is able to

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>bring into your life. Dude, just yesterday I was I

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>replaced the tube in one of the girls bikes because

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, she had a hole in it. And so

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be basic maintenance costs associated with almost anything.

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, Like there's very few things that we can

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<v Speaker 1>bring in our lives where it's just like, okay, that's it,

0:25:57.800 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>one and done. It's not gonna cause me to spend

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 1>more money. It's not gonna, you know, require more spending,

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna require any maintenance. There's a certain amount

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:06.199
<v Speaker 1>of you know, we're all about maintenance and maintaining the

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>things that we own, properly taking care of things. But

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:10.719
<v Speaker 1>it's just yeah, like you said, it's good to be

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:12.880
<v Speaker 1>aware of the fact that there are going to be

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>oftentimes other expenses associated with those things. Yeah. Also, we

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>would recommend for folks to to turn to exercise instead

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 1>of shopping as well. You know, we often browse our

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 1>favorite store online or in person in order to you know,

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>get that quick and easy dopamine release. Um dude, a

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of us sit at our computer all day for work,

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's incredibly convenient to open a new

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>tab to start typing things in Amazon, and before you

0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 1>know it, you know, you just drop thirty bucks on

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:41.119
<v Speaker 1>something that you don't really need but it definitely feels good. Instead,

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>we recommend for folks to look to the harder but

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.360
<v Speaker 1>healthier option of exercise. And you don't have to run

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a marathon either, but even just dropping down and you know,

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>giving ten twenty push ups, that kind of thing. When

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you maybe start mindlessly shopping online, maybe be your own trills,

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>hard hit in that way, grab your grab a little kettlebell,

0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>do your own swings, uh, like I do. Sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>can just be the mental release that your brain is

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>looking for, not necessarily that you need something new, but

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 1>just you're kind of looking for a distraction. Go for

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 1>the healthier distraction. Yeah, it can divert your brain from

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the thing that you want to do right now, which

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>is by something and that's the thing you shouldn't be

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>doing in all likelihood. And then it can get your

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 1>blood pumping and it could get you energized to do

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 1>something else right, to tackle the next you know, work

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>assignment or whatever it may be. Also to there are

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>times when it does make sense to spend some money

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 1>when we do want to spend, and that's okay to write.

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>We're not anti spending. We wanted to give some ideas

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>and some thoughts for how you can avoid spending money,

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 1>avoid some of that temptation as the temptation is going

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>to increase. But we've also got some tips for when

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 1>you're going to spend, how to spend mindfully, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to those right after this break. All right, we're back,

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 1>and so, you know, like we said before the break,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about ways to avoid spending money altogether, but

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.439
<v Speaker 1>at a certain point, you gotta buy something, Like there

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>are some things that require spending money, and so if

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you're going to do that, you know there's you know,

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>like we said earlier too, there's no amount of exercise

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be able to distract you from buying

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>something that you need. And that's okay, but like, let's

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about how to spend wisely, in particular, as the

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 1>economy is reopening, it seems like it's starting to fire

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 1>on all cylinders, and so we want to make sure

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>that we're not being quickly parted with all of our

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>money without even realizing it. And so the first thing

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.119
<v Speaker 1>we'd recommend for folks to do is look to make

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 1>your purchases second hand sites like eBay, that's a great

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>place to shop. Instead of always looking to buy something new,

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>consider buying something slightly used. You know that someone else

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>is selling for way less money than buying it brand

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 1>stinking new. It's like buying a car, man, and it's like,

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>take somebody's gently used car because cars run for forever,

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna save a ton of money and the

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>car still gonna be really nice if you buy it

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>four or five years old, as opposed to get in

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the brand new one. Right Like, thrift stores also are

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>another great place to get secondhand goods, and Matt we

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>talked about shop good Will dot com is a cool

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>site to go to to find awesome throwt store stuff

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's great. Yeah, And but making a real attempt

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to find what you're looking for that someone else is

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>gently used, it's gonna save you money and it works

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>as a natural hindrance to spending frivolously. Sometimes there's there's

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>just like a little more friction to finding that used

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>item that makes sense in your life. And and that's

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>actually good. I think in the spending process, you want

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of friction. Sometimes the easy click to

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>buy is is the thing that's gonna get us in

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the most Trouble and matt even life cycle. Like we

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>mentioned at the beginning of the episode, buying home goods

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>used is a good way. You gotta kind of search

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>for the thing that you want. You're gonna save money

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>though it's gonna take a little bit longer, but ultimately

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna work out in your favor. That's right, dude.

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, before you make that purchase on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever default site you tend to you tend to favor,

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>we'd recommend for you to check the deal sites out

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>there as well. Like when there's something that you know

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that you want, make sure that you check out some

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>of these other sites like deal news dot com. Also

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>slick Deals is a good one as well. You can

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>install Honey that is actually a great browser extension which

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>which can help you define the things that you're looking

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 1>for cheaper on other sites or even make you aware

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>of coupon codes that you wouldn't have otherwise known about

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>and that'll slash the price of that item. But for

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the most part, this approach only works when you know

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that there's something that you need. You know, because otherwise

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>not shopping sales might be your best bet because you

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>know when you see those off tags and you know

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>it's all it's written in bold red letters, it can

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>draw your eye and it can be a major temptation,

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>uh for folks to spend when maybe, like otherwise you shouldn't. Yeah, man,

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I kind of have a love hate relationship with some

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>of the deal sites. I I used to be more

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>into them than I am, but I still check them out.

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>You still like him, I still see you over there.

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I still talk about more than I should, and sometimes

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>that can be kind of temptation for me. Is is

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>to like, oh cool, that thing is so cheap, maybe

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I should get it. So the deal sites, I think

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you're right. I think if we use them correctly, if

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>we use them to try to find an item that

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>we're looking for, that we know we want to buy,

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>uh and that we're ready to buy, we can find

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>a better deal. But if we're just browsing, like I

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>sometimes tend to use them for guilty, I'll admit it. Well,

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I would say it is good to know that the

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>deals are out there if you know that there's something

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you're going to purchase. Like you said, it's good to

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>be aware of the best price. Yeah, I feel like

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>you're really good at knowing that, like, Okay, yeah, this

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>should cost about this much. And the reason you know

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that is because you've seen it on sale, like on

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>these different sites like this that kind of aggregate the

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>best deals. But yeah, you also do want to make

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>sure that you're aware that the temptation that that's putting

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>in your life. It's like, my greatest strength is also

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>my greatest weakness, you know. I think another thing people

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>can do in order to spend wisely when they are

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 1>buying something is to institute the forty eight hour rule.

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>We've talked about this before, but but having a period

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of time that you institute before you purchase something new

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>is crucial to preventing just impulse buying. So go ahead,

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>put the item in your shopping cart, and if you

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>still want it two days later and you don't have

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>to go into debt in order to get it, that's

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>key here, then it's okay to complete that purchase. That

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>will help curb some of the just mindless spending, some

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>of the spending that we're doing just because we can

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>or because it's fun. The forty eight our rule can

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>be just really helpful in weeding out some of those

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>purchases that we make that are the most unhelpful, you know,

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>to our budgets. Not to mention too, if you you know,

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you've added that to your cart and they've got your

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>email address, sometimes they'll they'll check in with you after

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>a couple of days, and sometimes they'll they'll send you

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a coupon. They're like, hey, is this is this item

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of years? Did you you know, lead your cart stranded?

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Here's ten percent helps sweeten the deal. So that's a

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>nice little incentive. Also too, we would recommend for folks

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to consider the cost per use when you're thinking about

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>making a purchase. If you you know, maybe you're naturally

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>a frugal tight wad like like we tend to be.

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes it can be difficult, you know, in

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>allowing yourself to spend any money at all, like even

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>on the things that we that we value or things

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>that bring us joy. And so an alternative way to

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>consider a purchase is to think through maybe how regularly

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>you might use something, right, and so if it's something

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>that you'd use on a regular basis, it might make sense,

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a purchase that item, and not only

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to purchase it, but even consider maybe like the slightly

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>higher quality item, because if we're you know, if we're

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>always just trying to spend the least amount of money possible,

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the ways that we can, unfortunately end

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>up being cheap as opposed to frugal. We're thinking, oh,

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>this is something I know, it's gonna bring me a

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of joy, and just gonna get the cheapest thing possible,

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, it ends up crapping out after

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>a few months, and then we have to buy something

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>again again, leading to more waste than plus, often having

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>to buy something twice is going to be more expensive

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>than having spent a little bit more on that higher

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>quality item to begin with. Yeah, that's I'm also a recovering,

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>spend the least amount of money on stuff as possible person,

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and I'm all about now spending a little bit more

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>money and getting something that's gonna last for a long time. Yeah. Yeah,

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you gotta like test the waters, though, you know,

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>like if you've never owned a grill, you're kind of like,

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>let's I want to figure this out, and you buy

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>like the cheapest you know, I don't know, fifty dollar

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>grill that they sell ls our own depot. I got

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 1>my grill of Aldi actually flight or or from Aldi,

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>because I'm sure that I was pretty unaffordable. But then,

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you realize that, say like oh I'm

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>really into grilling, or like oh what else can I

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>cook outside? Then you start thinking, okay, like this is

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>bring me a lot of joy. There's a lot of utility.

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>That's something we use often. And that's when I think

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>it can be totally worth it to spend a little

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>bit more money. Yeah, man, I think too, when we're spending,

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>when the temptation to spend arises, having some sort of

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>pressure relief valve for your spending can be helpful too.

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 1>You might just have in urge to go shopping or

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to just spend some money, any money, you just want

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>to spend some money. I know people like this. My

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>mom probably falls into this category. Man, and and and

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>more than anything, like she loves even just window shopping,

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>but she loves shopping. It's something that she gets a

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of joy out of she I

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>think it's um, it's there's something creative in kind of

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>seeing all the items for sale that that she likes.

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 1>She likes seeing design and in particular like home interior stuff,

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>right uh, and to potentially avoid a larger, more disastrous purchase.

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Though maybe you can scratch that itch just a little

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>bit with a small splurge like a nice coffee, right.

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like fancy coffee gets raked over the coals

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>in personal finance all the time. It's a batter rat

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>for sure. But that can the perfect like us pressure

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.760
<v Speaker 1>relief valve for your spending. You're like, I just treated myself.

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>There's something really nice, but actually it didn't really cost

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that much money. It's better to make a small spending

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:13.359
<v Speaker 1>mistake than to make a big one. So finding your

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>small release valve can be big and really helpful when

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>it comes to smart spending, especially if you're able to

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe go on a walk when you get that coffee. Essentially,

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>what you've done there is you've kind of transformed that

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>purchase like that you might just see as a good

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>into an experience. And and so that's kind of what

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>we'd recommend next for folks is to you know, we

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>would recommend for folks to consider prioritizing experiences over stuff

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 1>that you might you know, buy online or you know,

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>even at the store. And oftentimes you folks think about travel,

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't have to to be travel, you know,

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 1>as we talk about experiences here, although that is a

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>big experience that that many folks do prioritize. But you know,

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>experiences like this could be just say a dinner out

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>with friends, or it could be buying a membership to

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the zoo or like the botanical gardens if you've got

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>them there where you live. Uh, And these could provide

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>recurring experiences, you know, for you you or for your family,

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>or for you and your friends. Research shows that an

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>intangible experience can often bring you joy for you know,

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 1>much longer than a physical object. So focusing your spending

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>on some of those experiences that can provide incredible memories

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>with folks you know, who you love the most, and

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 1>it's often going to provide a much better return on

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>your investment than buying just another item, say for your wardrobe,

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that you're then going to have to kind of shoehorn

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.439
<v Speaker 1>in your closet because you don't have any more space

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 1>at all. Yeah, and too, I think what's great about

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>experiences is that they they foster um an ability to

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 1>bond with other people. To write, experiences are helping us

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>build relationships almost always as opposed to buying stuff, which

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>often does the opposite. And so yeah, I guess I

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>was talking earlier Matt about borrowing stuff from other people

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and then letting other people borrow your stuff, and how

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>that expands your relationships and make them better. Well, I

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>think the same thing is true when we prioritize experiences

0:36:56.800 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 1>over stuff. It's it's during those social experi aeriences that

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>we cultivate feelings of connection and belonging to one another.

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:08.319
<v Speaker 1>And those experiences are are oftentimes unique to us as individuals,

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>which means that we're we're typically less likely to compare

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>our own experiences to the experiences of others. And comparison,

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 1>as you know, Matt, is is one of the things

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that lends to our consumption. It leads us to spend

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 1>more and to spend on wisely. So if instead of experiences,

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>you're focusing on stuff like electronics, clothing, or even something

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.319
<v Speaker 1>great like bikes, it can be easier to compare that

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff to other people. And Teddy Roosevelt one of the

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>best quotes ever is comparison is the thief of joy.

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that's so true for us. I think that's

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that like social media has done

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to us as a culture in a lot of ways,

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>has made it easier to compare, and it has made

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>it harder for us than as individuals to be content

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>with what we do have. So true, dude, Yeah, and

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>so you know, as many of us are looking forward

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>to our our lives looking more like they did before,

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>let's make sure that our spending doesn't automatically revert to

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 1>pre pandemic levels as well. One of the few positives

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 1>of the pandemic brought into our lives was the ability

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to truly see how much control we really do have

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 1>over our spending. So look at how much debt you know,

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you were able to eliminate from your life last year,

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>or how much we're able to save up for that

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 1>down payment you know on a house. Remember those goals

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and continue to to work towards the things that you value,

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:24.399
<v Speaker 1>even while there are other expenses and distractions that are

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:27.360
<v Speaker 1>getting reintroduced into our lives right now. Yeah, the temptation

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.399
<v Speaker 1>to spend is real, and we want to make sure

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>you avoid it. We want to avoid it, you know.

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:34.239
<v Speaker 1>The the temptation is real for all of us since

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 1>we have to implement you know, some of these things

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 1>as many as we can in order to curb that

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>spending so that we can realize those bigger goals that

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 1>we have, so that we can build wealth for the

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 1>long haul, so that we can have the ability to

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>reach financial independence and make our own decisions about what

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 1>we want to do with our time. All right, Matt,

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to the beer that we had on

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the show. This one was by Right Side Brewing. Is

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>a citrus wheat non alcoholic beer. What were your thoughts

0:38:57.560 --> 0:38:59.479
<v Speaker 1>on this one? Man? Yeah, you know, before I comment

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>on this partic kular beer from Right Side, and it

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>also makes me think of Mr bright Side, the song

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 1>from the from the Killers. Such a good song. But

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>as far as this beer goes, Man, Yeah, this is

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 1>a citrus whet and I feel like the citrus really

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>does come through. Uh. It almost like almost reminds me

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>of like an orange gatorade. I don't know, like a

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>combination of the orange and yellow gatorade. Oh yeah, more

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the yellow, you know I'm talking about it? Do like

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>the yellow Gatory and the orange Gatorade. It's got those

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>flavors going on, but it doesn't you know, it doesn't

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>have that sweetness. It's not nearly as obviously, it's not

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 1>nearly as syrupy, but it does kind of have those flavors.

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>It almost has this herbal tea like flavor going on,

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>but of course it's fizzy, so yeah, it's reminiscent of beer.

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:41.720
<v Speaker 1>It's near beer. Obviously, there's definitely something missing, but totally

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 1>still enjoyable. Yeah, what your thoughts on it, dude? Yeah,

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was too and I was surprised because

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I agree it was missing a little something that I'm

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>used to getting in beer, but I still I still

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of tasty, great man. And I think it's

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>awesome that people are now making, you know, non alcoholic

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<v Speaker 1>craft beer equivalence, because there are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>out there who just don't want to drink for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good reasons, and so to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy something and get some of that same flavor profile

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<v Speaker 1>and sensation that you get with craft beer but without

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<v Speaker 1>actually having to consume alcohol, well, this is just a

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<v Speaker 1>great place for people to go. I think is is

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<v Speaker 1>these non alcoholic craft beers and the this sitrus Sweet

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<v Speaker 1>from Right Side was pretty solid. Man. I agree, man,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's gonna be it for this episode. Listeners can

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