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Speaker 1: Welcome. It is a verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben

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Speaker 1: Ferguson with you, Senator, We've got a lot to talk about,

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Speaker 1: including Christopher Ray being grilled in front of the House

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Speaker 1: from him. We're going to break all that down for

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Speaker 1: everybody listening. Plus, we don't just have cocaine at the

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Speaker 1: any of these people. Apparently. We'll give you an up

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Speaker 1: down that. But before we get to that, Senator, there's

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Speaker 1: a big victory that took place in the Foreign Relations

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Speaker 1: Committee that's going to have a huge impact on commerce

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Speaker 1: not just in this country, but specifically as well with Texas.

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Speaker 1: Talk about this victory and what it means, Well, that's

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Speaker 1: exactly right.

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Speaker 2: It was a massive victory that we won yesterday for

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Speaker 2: the state of Texas before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee,

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Speaker 2: and it concerns commerce and trade with Mexico. So tech

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Speaker 2: this engages in a massive amount of trade with the

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Speaker 2: nation of Mexico. About eight hundred billion dollars a year

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Speaker 2: And that you have trucks and cars that are driving

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The Biden administration bizarrely has been doing everything it can

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Speaker 2: unnecessary bureaucratic roadblocks in the way of doing so. In particular,

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Speaker 2: if you want to build a bridge anywhere in the

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Speaker 2: so and you don't need a special permit from the

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Speaker 1: Built in this country.

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Speaker 2: Anywhere you're building a bridge, you have to do under

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Speaker 2: a statute called NIPA, an environmental review. And so the

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Speaker 2: but you'd still have to complete the environmental review on

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Speaker 2: This makes zero and so for months I have been

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Speaker 2: I have raised this directly and repeatedly with the White House.

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Speaker 2: I've raised this directly and repeatedly with the Department of State.

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Speaker 2: And I worked to bring together a bipartisan coalition in

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Speaker 2: drafted a letter to Secretary of State Tony Blinken, and

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Speaker 2: it directs the White House and it directs the State

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Speaker 2: any other bridge. Well, it was initially a battle, and

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Speaker 2: The reason for that is is every year Congress passes

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Speaker 2: and I think it will be, it will speed up

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Speaker 2: Because right now, let's take the city of Laredo. Laredo

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Speaker 2: and that's good for the environment. No one wants hundreds

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Speaker 2: all around. The Biden administration's policy made no sense. But

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Speaker 1: You mentioned that this was bipartisan as well. At the

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Speaker 1: this became, as you mentioned there at the end, because

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Speaker 1: this just a stiket to Texas, a border state, and

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Speaker 1: that's that's the reason why they made the change the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you said it didn't make sense why they did this,

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Speaker 2: I actually think it was more mundane than that. I

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Speaker 2: on malice. What can be explained with incompetence. I think

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of wisdom to this. What I think

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Speaker 2: of a knee jerk no no, no. But it never

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Speaker 2: And that's the one thing the Biden administration responds to.

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Speaker 2: And so in particular, I had placed a hold on

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Speaker 1: And I said, sure, of course.

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Speaker 2: The whole point of the holds is to get you

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you one more question about what

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Speaker 2: So that's exactly right. It affects the entire country. And

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Speaker 2: It is, and as you know, the entirety of that

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Speaker 1: You mentioned one thing, and I want to clarify on

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Speaker 2: And you know what they are doing. They're still going

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Speaker 4: Sounds like a shakedown, doesn't a director.

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Speaker 2: seventeen voice recordings. He refused to answer. I asked him,

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Speaker 2: will the FBI give those seventeen voice recordings to the

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Speaker 2: Senate Judiciary Committee. He refused to commit to doing so.

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Speaker 2: And there is just a brazen defiance. There's an attitude

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Speaker 2: at the FBI. We don't work for you, we don't

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Speaker 2: work for anybody. We do what we want, and we

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Speaker 2: answer to nobody. And the deputy director I was questioning him,

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Speaker 2: had just this contempt. How dare you ask me those questions?

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Speaker 2: I decide what to investigate, and nobody gets to second

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Speaker 2: guess it. And it's a contempt. It's not ultimately a

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Speaker 2: contempt for me or for the Senate or for Congress.

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Speaker 2: It's a contempt for the American people because when Congress

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Speaker 2: andregauges an oversight, we're fulfilling our constitutional responsibility, and we're

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Speaker 2: doing so. When I ask those questions, I am doing

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Speaker 2: so on behalf of thirty million Texans. I'm doing so

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Speaker 2: because I believe Texans would want me to ask those

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Speaker 2: questions and get to the bottom of it. And I

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Speaker 2: hear that from Texans frequently, that they are grateful that

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Speaker 2: I engage in that oversight. But when the FBI has

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Speaker 2: this sneering condescension that I'm not going to answer that.

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Speaker 2: And in the instance where Matt Gates was asking him

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Speaker 2: about that WhatsApp can communication between Hunter, Biden and and

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Speaker 2: that the Chinese communist official, that is one of the

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Speaker 2: most damning communications I've ever heard. Of course, it's a shakedown.

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Speaker 2: It's not transparent, it's not subtle. It is about as

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Speaker 2: blatant as shakedown as possible. The only conceivable defense is

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Speaker 2: either that that that the communication was false, although at

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Speaker 2: the FBI. And remember, by the way, you gotta also

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Speaker 2: Whistleblowers that allege that in the entire course of this investigation,

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Speaker 2: the Department of Justice politically interfered with the investigation and

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Speaker 2: said do not ask any questions about Joe Biden. Do

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Speaker 1: Do not.

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Speaker 2: They refuse to allow GPS uh GPS to be looked

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Speaker 1: There was also something else that was interesting, and that

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Speaker 6: Twitter files, Missouri versus Biden, disclosures, the Durham investigation and report,

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Speaker 6: The American people fully understand that there is a two

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Speaker 6: tier justice system that has been weaponized to persecute people

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Speaker 6: based on their political beliefs, and that you have pursued

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Speaker 6: been weapony, that you have personally worked to weaponize the

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Speaker 6: FBI against conservatives. I asked mister Durham about this, to

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Speaker 6: which he answered, I don't think that things can go

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Speaker 6: too much further with the view that law enforcement, particularly

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Speaker 6: the FBI or Department of Justice, runs a two tiered

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Speaker 6: system of justice. The nation can't stand under those circumstances.

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Speaker 6: Director Ray, what are you prepared to do to reform

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Speaker 6: federal law enforcement in a manner which earns back the

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Speaker 6: trust of the American people.

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Speaker 7: Well, first off, I would disagree with your characterization of

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Speaker 7: the FBI and certainly your description of my own approach,

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Speaker 7: The idea that I'm biased against conservatives seems someone insane

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Speaker 7: to me, given my own personal background.

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Speaker 1: Someone insane to me, Senator. This on top of the

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Speaker 1: fact that a new polls come out saying that just

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Speaker 1: thirty seven percent of Americans have a favorable view of

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Speaker 1: the FBI right now, meaning overwhelmingly the majority of Americans

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Speaker 1: do not trust or have faith in the FBI under

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Speaker 1: Director ray Well.

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Speaker 2: I have to say I understand both sides of that conversation. So,

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Speaker 2: Harriet Hageman is a friend of mine. I supported her

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Speaker 2: enthusiastically when she ran against Liz Cheney in the primary

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Speaker 2: and beat her in the primary in Wyoming, and I

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Speaker 2: supported her in the general election, raised a bunch of

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Speaker 2: money for Harriet. She is a smart, serious conservative constitutional

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Speaker 2: litigator and lawyer. And so her question was carefully constructed,

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Speaker 2: and it relied on a number of very specific data points,

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Speaker 2: all of which Chris ray Utter ignores. So he doesn't

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Speaker 2: actually address the substance of what she says. Instead, he

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Speaker 2: says the idea that he is biased against conservatives, he

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Speaker 2: thinks is quote somewhat insane. Now, you and I have

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Speaker 2: talked in this podcast. It's easy for people at home

559
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Speaker 2: watching everything happening at the FBI to think that Chris

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Speaker 2: Ray is some wild eyed liberal. And I've said before

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's accurate. I've known Chris Ray for

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Speaker 2: twenty five years. He is not a wild eyed liberal.

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Speaker 2: He's not even a Democrat. He is a Republican. He's

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Speaker 2: been a Republican his whole life. He has been in

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Speaker 2: law enforcement much of his life. As far as I know,

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Speaker 2: he still considers himself a Republican. So the problem is

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Speaker 2: not that he came into the office with an ideological

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Speaker 2: hatred for conservatives. By the way, Merrick Garland he has

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Speaker 2: that Merrick Garland is a partisan, but Chris Ray is not.

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Speaker 2: And remember it was Donald Trump who appointed Chris Ray

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Speaker 2: as director of the FBI. Chris's problem is different, which

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Speaker 2: is that he is temperamentally he is a company man.

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Speaker 2: It's just his instinct. And so when he became director

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Speaker 2: of the FBI, he instantly went native. And so in

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Speaker 2: every dispute he looks to the senior career officials at

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Speaker 2: the FBI and he says, my responsibility as director is

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Speaker 2: to have their backs. Now, that is often a good

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Speaker 2: instinct in a leader that if you're in an institution,

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Speaker 2: you want to support your people, you want to have

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Speaker 2: your people's backs. That is a good instinct in a leader,

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Speaker 2: unless your people are actively undermining the integrity of the

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Speaker 2: institution you serve. And the problem with Chris Ray he

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Speaker 2: seems to have an absolute blind spot that he does

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Speaker 2: not understand that many of these career bureaucrats at the

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Speaker 2: FBI are hard vicious partisans. And because he doesn't perceive that,

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Speaker 2: he's not willing to rein them in and in any battle.

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Speaker 2: He takes the side of the hard vicious partisan and

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Speaker 2: he defends them, and he's stone walls. Chris Ray could

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Speaker 2: choose to answer these questions, he doesn't want to. And

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Speaker 2: there's a second component, which is he does not have

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Speaker 2: the humility that a senior government official should have a

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Speaker 2: recognition that he is accountable. He believes, I Chris Ray

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Speaker 2: am in charge of the FBI, and I think he

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Speaker 2: believes in his heart they are not biased or weaponized.

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Speaker 2: And I just think he's utterly blind to what his

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Speaker 2: underlings are doing. It's why he doesn't engage in the

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Speaker 2: substance of any of the points. And by the way.

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Speaker 2: I have had literally screaming arguments with Chris Ray as Director,

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Speaker 2: where I've said, you are not defending the FBI. When

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Speaker 2: you defend these wild eyed partisans, you are hurting the FBI.

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Speaker 2: You are hurting the integrity of the institution you lead.

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Speaker 2: I hear from and I've told him this. Your agents

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Speaker 2: who come and tell me that they're embarrassed to be

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Speaker 2: FBI agents because under your leadership. And it started before

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Speaker 2: Chris Ray, it started Jim Comey was much worse. But

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Speaker 2: Chris Ray wasn't willing to clean house. He wasn't willing

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Speaker 2: to throw the partisans out, and he's not willing to

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Speaker 2: go forward and say, you know what, the American people

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Speaker 2: deserve transparency here on the investigation of Hunter Biden and

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden. Right now, the irs whistleblowers are alleging that

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Speaker 2: DOJ engaged in a cover up, that the Attorney General

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Speaker 2: lied under oath to Congress responding to my questioning in

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Speaker 2: the Senate Judiciary Committee, and that the Attorney General likely

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Speaker 2: committed obstruction of justice. Those are very serious charges. You

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Speaker 2: know who has a lot of information on whether that's true.

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Speaker 2: The FBI they were side by side at all of

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Speaker 2: this investigation, and Chris Ray feels no obligation to come

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Speaker 2: those questions. And look, I get often law enforcement. It's

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Speaker 1: just cocaine that we're finding at the White House. The

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Speaker 1: Secret Service has now apparently said yeah, we find other

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Speaker 1: drugs there, like weed. And yet Democrats have come out

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Speaker 1: and they said they actually feel good about this. Representative

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Speaker 1: Raskin said this about the investigation into the cocaine who

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Speaker 1: brought the White House, and of course we called it

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Speaker 1: here on Verdict Center. We're never going to find out

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Speaker 1: who brought it in. They're saying they couldn't figure it out.

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Speaker 8: I'm satisfied that the Secret Service and the White House

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Speaker 8: are on top of it. I was reading a book

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Speaker 8: about Lincoln recently, and anybody in Washington could just walk

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Speaker 8: right into Lincoln's White House, go directly in and try

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Speaker 8: to find the president and talk to them. And obviously

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Speaker 8: we're in a very different security environment than that. But

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Speaker 8: I don't know how many people would want to go

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Speaker 8: to the White House if they were going to be

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Speaker 8: administering a drug test on the way in, which is

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Speaker 8: what some of my colleagues have suggested. You know, some

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Speaker 8: people are saying everybody should be drug tested on the

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Speaker 8: way into the White House, and you know, these are

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Speaker 8: the same people who are opposed to COVID nineteen tests.

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Speaker 8: So I don't see a lot of coherence in the criticism.

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Speaker 1: That's one how the statement center your reaction.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's rather hysterical to see a Democrat

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Speaker 2: congressman saying, gosh, you know, Democrats would be really afraid

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Speaker 2: to go to the White House that we had.

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Speaker 1: To get drug tested.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, you got to get drug tested to

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Speaker 2: get hired as a truck driver, You got to get

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Speaker 2: drug tested to get hired as a fork left operator.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of jobs at America you got

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Speaker 2: to get drug tested for. In fact, when I speak

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Speaker 2: to small business owners in Texas, they say one of

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Speaker 2: the challenges of hiring new employees is finding people who

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Speaker 2: can pass the drug test. Well, that's one thing if

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Speaker 2: you're dealing with with with ordinary citizens. But you would

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Speaker 2: think a member of Congress should be held to a

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Speaker 2: higher standard. And yet he's saying, gosh, you know, we

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Speaker 2: don't want to go to the White House with drug tests. Look,

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Speaker 2: this is a white House that applies no ethical standards

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Speaker 2: to itself. This is a white House that covers up

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Speaker 2: serious allegations of criminality by the President of the United States,

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Speaker 2: including bribery. This is a white House that covers up

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Speaker 2: serious allegations of criminality by the president's adult son, Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 2: This is a White House that sends a press secretary

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Speaker 2: out every day to brazenly lied to the American people.

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Speaker 1: This is a white house.

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Speaker 2: As you noted, if they said they multiple times found

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Speaker 2: marijuana in the White House, and they're like, oh, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: no big deal. They just confiscated the marijuana, threw it away,

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Speaker 2: but didn't bother naming whose it was, didn't apparently seem

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Speaker 2: to have any concern on figuring out whose it was,

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Speaker 2: because you know, I mean, you know, who hasn't smoked

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Speaker 2: pot in the White House. This is a White House.

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Speaker 2: Look this cocaine story. If this cocaine story happened when

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump was president, the media would be losing their minds.

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Speaker 2: Democrats would be losing their minds. And yet because it's

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Speaker 2: under Joe Biden. Listen, this was cocaine that was left

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Speaker 2: in a working entrance to the White House where they

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Speaker 2: have a log of every person who walked through that

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Speaker 2: door in the exact time they walk through that door.

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Speaker 2: Just yesterday, the Secret Service announced, oh, we've done our

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Speaker 2: investigation and guess what, we can't figure out who did it.

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Speaker 2: And let's be clear, this podcast predicted that right after

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Speaker 2: the cocaine was found. We said on this podcast, here's

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Speaker 2: going to be the result. They're going to announce we

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Speaker 2: don't know, Well, what do you know? That's exactly what

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Speaker 2: they announced. And the reason they announced that they don't

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Speaker 2: want to know because whoever it is, it's somebody embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you go back to the Secret Service now

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Speaker 1: confirming they found marijuana not once, but twice in the

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Speaker 1: White House in twenty twenty two alone, long before cocaine

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Speaker 1: was located in the West Wing the Secret.

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Speaker 2: Service year, not a long time ago, last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Secret Service revealed the information of Congress like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: by the way, and this classified briefing on this investigation

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Speaker 1: into the cocaine found the way, yeah, we've also found

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Speaker 1: some other drugs. We found weed a few times last year.

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Speaker 1: This is not normal behavior. Yet they're acting like it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, this White House believes they are immune from scrutiny.

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Speaker 2: It really is stunning. By the way, look, I'll give

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Speaker 2: another example. So there was a really interesting column that

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Speaker 2: Maureen Dowd wrote in the New York Times. Mariene Dowd,

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Speaker 2: of course, is a left wing columnist. She is a

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Speaker 2: hard partisan Democrat. And the title of her column was

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Speaker 2: It's seven grandchildren, mister President. And that, of course is

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Speaker 2: because Hunter Biden has an illegitimate child, a little girl,

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Speaker 2: Navy Joan, who Hunter Biden has gone to court to

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Speaker 2: stop her from using the name Biden, this little four

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Speaker 2: year old, she doesn't get to use the name Biden

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Speaker 2: because he's unhappy about the circumstances in which he fathered

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Speaker 2: a child. Now ed beat dads are not honorable people.

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Speaker 2: When you run away from your kid, that's not honorable,

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Speaker 2: that's not right, that is frankly shameful. But Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: consistently refers to his six grandchildren. In fact, every Christmas

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Speaker 2: he puts up six stockings. But as Maureen Down pointed out,

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Speaker 2: you don't have six grandchildren, you have seven. And the

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Speaker 2: fact that Joe Biden won't even acknowledge that she exists.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, we're not speculating that she's a grandchild.

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Speaker 2: They did a paternity test and concluded yep, Hunter is daddy.

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Speaker 2: And and by the way, look, look, people have children,

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Speaker 2: and they have children out of wedlock. That is not

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Speaker 2: you know, that happens in the world. It shouldn't, but

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Speaker 2: we live in reality. The question is if that happens,

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Speaker 2: how does someone behave do they behave honorably? Do they

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Speaker 2: provide for the kid? And and Hunter literally said, here,

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Speaker 2: you can have a couple of my paintings, Like, holy crap,

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Speaker 2: that's dad of the year stuff. You're shaken down Communist

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Speaker 2: China and Ukraine for millions of dollars, and you're giving

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Speaker 2: your daughter that you deny your name to a couple

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Speaker 2: of your idiotic paintings that you're trying to grift money

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Speaker 2: off of.

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Speaker 1: And you can't have my last name. You can't have

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Speaker 1: my last same at the same time.

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Speaker 2: You can't have my last name. And the fact that

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Speaker 2: Marine Dawd made that point is a big deal. That

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Speaker 2: the New York Times is starting to turn on him,

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Speaker 2: that's a big deal. But still most of the corporate

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Speaker 2: media won't ask Joe Biden, why are you denying this

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Speaker 2: four year old child and refusing to acknowledge that she's yours,

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Speaker 2: your your grandchild.

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Speaker 1: Great point. The media, by the way, wanting to cover

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Speaker 1: this up. They're now saying that if you care about

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Speaker 1: cocaine in the White House, you are a conspiracy theorist

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Speaker 1: Chuck Todd Meet the Press now on MSNBC. This is

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Speaker 1: what he had to say about the Secret Service ending

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Speaker 1: the White House cocaine investigation.

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Speaker 5: People, what do you since Congress? You know, we know

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Speaker 5: there's a few members of Congress they are going to

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Speaker 5: try to use this as a hobby horse, what do

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Speaker 5: you sense? What could they do here? Enforcing more focus

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Speaker 5: on this.

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Speaker 9: I think one of the questions was, if this can

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Speaker 9: get through, is there a vulnerability in some other way?

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Speaker 9: And people I've been talking to say, when it comes

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Speaker 9: to agents that might have been a powdery substance that

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Speaker 9: could be used in a weapon form, that they have

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Speaker 9: mechanisms to test for that, that they don't test for

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Speaker 9: contraband they don't test for illegal drugs that don't pose

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Speaker 9: a threat to the president or others inside the White House.

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Speaker 9: It certainly is not a good look, and no one

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Speaker 9: feels good about that.

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Speaker 5: I was just going to say, I'm guessing the White

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Speaker 5: House doesn't like that. There's no answer there.

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Speaker 9: Oh, it's unsatisfying because it only feeds the beast, the

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Speaker 9: conspiratorial beast.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, that we know of like trying to.

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Speaker 9: Destroy our And to answer that, family members typically don't

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Speaker 9: use this entrance, not that they couldn't, but they typically

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Speaker 9: don't and they're not asked to put their stuff on copy.

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Speaker 5: And this is yes, nice to see.

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Speaker 1: You silly, right, Senator, It's just silly. I got the

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist there. There's real cocaine found we find out

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Speaker 1: more drugs are in the White House from marijuana as well.

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Speaker 1: But your conspiracy theorists, if you want answers, so.

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Speaker 2: It's it is, of course not a conspiracy. It is

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Speaker 2: a fact that a bag of cocaine was found in

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Speaker 2: the West Wing of the White House. I agree with

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Speaker 2: the comment there, and we've talked about this on the pod.

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Speaker 2: I think it's unlikely that it was Hunter Biden's cocaine

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Speaker 2: because the entrance where it was found is the working

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Speaker 2: entrance that the staff goes in and out of. It's

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Speaker 2: not an entrance that I think Hunter was likely to use.

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Speaker 2: So I find it more plausible that it is a

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Speaker 2: staff member who works in the West Wing of the

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Speaker 2: White House. It could very well be a senior staff

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Speaker 2: member of the Biden White House. Now, if a senior

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Speaker 2: staff member the Biden White House is bringing cocaine in,

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Speaker 2: that's a big damn deal. If they are a drug

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Speaker 2: addict while being a senior White House official, that is

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Speaker 2: a very serious problem. And the reason that we predicted

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Speaker 2: right at the outset we will never know. The Secret

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Speaker 2: Service will announce we can't figure out who it is

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Speaker 2: is because they recognize it's embarrassing as hell and a

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Speaker 2: real problem if senior White House aids are drug addicts.

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Speaker 2: Chuck Todd dismisses it all as conspiracy theory. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you this, Chuck wouldn't think that if this were the

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Speaker 2: Trump White House. If this were a Trump White House,

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Speaker 2: he would be lighting his hair on fire.

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