WEBVTT - Q&A 2025 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:03.240 Alson media. 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:09.559 Order in the court order in the court Justice Robert 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:12.600 Evans presigning, I see we have a fine jury here 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:16.200 to take questions from the audience of our of our 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:20.759 daily news show, which is also my court room. Everybody, 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.640 everybody get it because I'm a judge now, really, because 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:25.080 that's how the legal system works. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.320 All those rubers are partly have come true. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.680 Huh No, municipal Judge Garrison. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:36.839 That's okay, okay, let's get You're right, You're right, You're 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:37.720 right here. 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:39.519 I will now for the rest of my life be 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.360 able to say when people ask questions well as a 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:46.040 man of the law, which I'm very much looking forward to. 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.840 No able to say, Robert quite likely to say. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:53.280 Anyway, that's all I got. 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.040 All right, this is that you could happen here Q 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.959 and a episode we've got. What are we calling you now, 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:00.320 Robert Evans? What's your title? 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:04.760 The Honorable Robert Evans? And I actually dished. The judge 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.200 who made me a judge sent me a gabble, but 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.319 I didn't grab it for this one, so I just 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.760 used I have a the the barrel and lower receiver 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.560 from an antique sought off shotgun that belonged to a 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.240 bootlegger and I just sort of slammed that into my table. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.200 I'm sure our editor will love that. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.080 Yeah, yeah, right, but before we broadcast, so you have 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:25.000 a sort of shotgun. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.839 It's not it's not functional. It's been destroyed. 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.039 I see, I see good. Didn't want to little rebe 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:30.640 reach moment. 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.480 Yeah, we've got Mio Wong, Garrison, Davis, James Stout and 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.840 the dishonorable Robert Evans. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:37.759 And Sophy Lichterman. 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.080 Oh yes, it mean yeah. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.840 We're gonna do the We're gonna do some questions. We 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.800 posted it on our Blue Sky for not following us 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:44.399 on Blue Sky. 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.160 We are on there Blue Ski. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.000 One does not post on Blue Sky. 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.440 So if you want skeets, I really hope that's not true, 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.480 because that's relliant, embarrassing. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.720 Unfortunately, they really tried to get that off the ground. 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.800 I don't see anyone actually using skeet. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.520 I saw someone using it in French. Was a real 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.320 moment A Garrison. 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.080 Instead of saying send a tweet, now, I just say 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.440 send skeat in conversation. Everyone loves it. 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.359 M de reskeat Is that a thing? 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:11.760 Yeah? 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:13.120 I guess you do. I guess you do. 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:17.120 M hm, and we're moving on. I'm just gonna throw 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.840 out some of the questions we received on online. I'm 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:21.519 not even gonna say the name of the app again 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:26.680 because I'm afraid being labeled as an old Garrison's embarrassed 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.280 by me. I can tell I didn't say that, but 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:29.800 you thought it. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:30.760 But you thought it. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:32.519 I didn't think that you did. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.720 Any advice for someone with a desire to do some 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.680 hobby or freelance journalism in the coming few years, I 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.600 want to actively fight for equality. Also, thank you for 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:43.240 your questions. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:43.640 Everyone. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.080 HM, I don't thank you for your questions. I'm actively 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:48.600 angry at you for your question. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:50.280 That's why you're the dishonorable. 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.840 Yeah, start rich if you want to be a freelance journalist, 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:55.560 because you'll progressively become poorer. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.480 I have funded my journal I get I love whatever 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.840 people ask me questions like how did you convince Krack 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.960 to send you to Iraq? I didn't. I bought plane tickets. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.800 Like being an entertainer has always been what's funded my journalist. 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:17.800 I guess my advice would be get really autistic. 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.160 About something oh problematic, just like one. 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:24.600 Thing, this one thing, I get like really into it 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.760 to the point where it kind of takes over your life. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.680 Your your personal life starts fading away, it kind of 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.000 blends into your whole state of existence. And only then 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:37.040 will you actually get good at that that thing. Yep, 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.240 that's my advice. And then you just take one thing 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.040 at a time and every few years you kind of 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.000 change the scope of the thing if you're getting really 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.240 autistic about But that's kind of how I've rolled, and 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:49.680 it's been it's been Okay. 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.320 Yeah, you just finished thirty six hours of digging into 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:58.120 the life of a school shooter. And I also built 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.000 the back of my career spending hours and hours digging 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:04.920 through the online lives of mass shooters. And you don't 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.440 have to do that, but you do have to do 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.320 that thing, which is, yeah, exactly what Garrison said. You 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.960 have to pick a very narrow thing and make it 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.440 your life and not just a random thing, but like 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.800 a thing that you think is important. Yeah, and that 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.400 people don't other people don't understand how important it is. 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.200 And if you make yourself there's a fella. His blog 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.840 is called We Hunted the Mammoth. Dave Foutrell, who's been 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.960 covering what we call the manosphere for like more than 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:35.560 a decade before anybody else in journalism was taking it seriously. Yep, 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.039 you got to do that kind of thing. If you 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.919 do that kind of thing, you build a name for yourself, 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.680 and that can allow you when that the thing that 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:48.320 you're obsessed on becomes a big story, being first to 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.400 have something meaningful to say about it can provide you 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.680 eventually with the opportunity to cover other things. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:55.960 Yeah, it's good advice. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.080 I would say if you want to get started freelancing, 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.839 it's a good idea to join that BW Freelance Journalist Union. 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.520 You can learn a lot from people who are freelancing there. 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.680 You can learn who not to pitch, which editors are 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:10.040 toxic as fuck, which is a surprisingly large amount. Yeah, 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.040 you can learn which email to send your pitches to 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.160 and how to pitch if you're not familiar with how 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.080 to pitch. I also teach sometimes journalism workshops at a 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.360 community college, So if you have a community college. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:20.920 Near you, you. 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.560 Might be able to get some either free or very 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.760 cheap sort of advice and the real like nuts and 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.320 bolts of journalism, like sending pitches and stuff like that. 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:29.440 Cool. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.440 What is the consensus on what the next Trump administration 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:37.080 will do on the first day or first week, all 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:43.280 of us just look like we're in pains. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.440 Yeah, I'm not for seeing good things. There'll be a 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.719 lot of executive orders that are you know, probably bad, 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.159 you know, things that aren't great. 0:05:55.839 --> 0:06:01.160 Yeah. I think that he's going to try to do 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.880 as much of what he's promised to do in terms 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:05.839 of particular not in terms of everything he's promuded, but 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:09.640 in terms of going after immigrants. Yeah, he's going to 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:11.280 do as much of what he's promised to do as 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.920 he possibly can't. Now, that doesn't mean he's going to 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:17.200 actually deport millions of people. There are like some just 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.200 practical limitations based on the capacity of the institutions he'll 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.960 be using to do this, and he could get there's 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.279 a very good chance things will get bogged down and whatnot, 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.320 but like he will try. Yeah, that's that's my take. 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.120 Yeah, I think I think the other thing that's gonna 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.080 happen pretty quickly is I think he's gonna start moving 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:34.880 on tariffs very very fast. 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.880 Yeah. If you're planning to buy a computer, go ahead 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.160 and grab that fucker now if you can. 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.240 If you're getting anything from overseas, you should get it 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.000 in the few weeks that you still can. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.120 Yeah, it has a battery made here. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:51.680 I had my annual physical today because otherwise our insurance 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.599 screws us over. And my doctor was like, you should 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.560 try to get as many prescriptions filled before the end 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.799 of the year before things things come up, just in case. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.000 There you go, and you. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.479 Know that's not terrible advice. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:05.599 Yeah. 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:09.240 I think in terms of executive orders, he will try 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:14.520 and further restrict access to asylum, try and further change that. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.200 There are things he can do by executive order with 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.320 ICE and CBP in terms of how they operate that 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.280 he will try and do. It's not impossible that they 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.600 will try and again immediately mobilize public health law against 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.400 migrants like he did in twenty twenty. Right, Yeah, those 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.680 things could all be done without congressional support. We made 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.679 a whole on us about this, but Steven Miller suggested 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:34.920 that they might do some of those things. 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:38.600 So, yeah, not impossible. Probably won't be a great day. 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:43.400 Somebody's getting fired the first week, probably first day. 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.720 Yeah, I mean, I've seen the fact that the FBI 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:51.080 director is stepping down pushed as like an act of 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:55.760 resistance because it means that Trump now has to actually 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.360 go through like Congress to get it done. I don't 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.280 know how much I buy that, how much I think that. 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.520 I think a lot of what I'm seeing right now 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.120 from establishment people And maybe this isn't true of Ray 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.040 because I did find some of the arguments they're compelling, 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.480 But a lot of what I've seen from establishment people 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.520 in politics is they're scared and just really try and 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.120 not to make waves. Yeah, and I think that's what 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.000 you're going to see overwhelmingly. I think that he's going 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:26.120 to probably probably will not immediately act against the press, 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.120 and in a legal sense as the president, they will 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.080 do that. But I think he's he's going to He's 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.880 already suing differently, and I think that that's going to 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.240 be kind of his his focus there for a while, 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.160 just because there's a lot on his plate. But I 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.920 think he there there will be attempts like the fuck 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.400 with libel laws and stuff, especially as things go on. 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:51.240 Okay, several of you have asked about the Android ad 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.080 free version subscription channel, and I want you all to 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.000 know that it will happen next year. I have been 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:02.160 trying to get this to happen for two years now, 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:10.599 and for unforeseen reasons, it just keeps getting roadblocked. But 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.240 it is happening. We're just waiting on a couple final 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.400 things to get into place, so that will be happening, 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:22.280 hopefully very soon into twenty twenty five. I will update 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.000 everybody as soon as that's possible. And I'm so sorry 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:26.680 it's taken so long. I want you to know. I 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:32.319 have worked so unbelievably hard on this, miserably hard. 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.800 Yeah, we've seen it, Sophie has. It's been a nightmare, 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.760 harder than I have worked on anything else this year. Like, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:41.880 it's been nuts. 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:42.319 Yeah. 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.080 And here's the thing that sucks for no reason, no reason, 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.240 not that there's no reason to launch the app, there's 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.040 a great reason. There's no reason it should have taken 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.480 this long, correct, But we can't say anymore for reasons 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.520 that are also equally frustrating. I'd like to say in general, folks, 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.280 there's a few things that get brought up a lot. 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.000 It's like, why haven't they done this yet? Why haven't 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.679 they've done this yet? We're talking like technical things or 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.480 like you know, things like like a paid subscription, and 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.280 they're like, why haven't they gotten around to it yet, 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:11.559 and the answer is always some infuriating bullshit. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.280 Based on some bureaucracy bullshit. 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.120 Some be rocks, some legal shit where you're like, you 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.240 don't actually realize it's illegal to do this if you 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.040 do it this way or whatever, like some sort of 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:25.520 bullshit that makes it impossible. It's not that we want 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.320 to make this is. It is easy as possible for 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.960 people to have the best listening experience that we can 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.199 afford to provide them. But there's a lot of annoying 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.320 bullshit that exists for reasons beyond our comprehension. 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:42.160 Sorry, anyways, here's ads unless you have an iPhone and 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.000 subscribe to color Zone Media on Apple. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:55.720 All right, we're back. 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.480 How do you each motivate yourself to right or do 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.240 your jobs? I get asked that question all the time, 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:06.520 but I'll let each of you tackle it. While this 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:10.120 is a communally hosted show, I feel like each of 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:14.080 you do very different things, so your answers are going 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.000 to be all over the place. 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.920 So Garrison, oh, well, I mean paying rents a great motivator. 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:25.600 Sure, yes, yes, understated this is this is a big 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.800 thing that a lot of people who want to be 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.040 writers but have never done it for a living. Miss 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.360 is that all of your favorite writers who do it 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.839 for a living A big part of how they get 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:39.080 over fucking writer's block is they have to pay rent. 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:41.800 It turns out that helps. 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.960 It's it's a quite compelling motivator, and sometimes it has 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:50.520 required the assistance of you know, caffeine or other things. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.319 I have a variety of playlists to help me in 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:58.080 when I'm in like different moods. I definitely will about 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.559 you know, maybe twice a month, I just do a complete, 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.960 like a complete body check to my sleep schedule to 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.439 get a special project finished. And that's just kind of 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.640 part of the deal, at least in terms of how 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.800 I work, and not everyone does it this way though 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:14.680 maybe maybe people are more healthy than me. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:16.040 Yeah for me. 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.440 Okay, So the easiest way something gets done is just 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.839 pure rage. I get I can just do it like it. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:24.520 Just comes out. 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:25.120 Yeah. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:26.560 Anger is a great motivator. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.440 The other fun one is pure joy as something funny happening, 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.080 like this is the Shinzowabe Assassination. The easiest writing I've 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:36.120 ever done in my life. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:37.440 Sometimes it just flows. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.480 Yeah. 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.320 Other times it's just like there's a deadline and everyone 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.160 is counting on me, and I have to get it out, 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.960 and I've gotten to the right level of sleep deprivation 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:48.600 where I can. 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:50.200 Just do it. That's right, That's right. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:50.680 Yeah. 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.920 But I also think, you know, there's obviously like health insurance, 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.199 which is sort of a joke given our health insurance. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:01.400 But yeah, and the thing, and this is the sort 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:05.840 of the serious one, is that like this, you know, 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:10.120 I mean, I do some organizing stuff too, but like this, 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.320 this is the thing that I have to do that 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.440 can materially affect the world, which is a very very 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.760 weird thing to say about a podcast. But I've seen 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.319 it happen, right, I've seen all of you go and 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.520 do things that wouldn't have happened. And I've you know, 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.920 it's it's a weird situation, right, because my motivation for 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.079 doing this stuff is the chance that you will make 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.320 the world better. But I've I've seen it happen, and 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.000 I have to continue to believe that the thing that 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:37.960 I've been doing for all these years, this project of 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:42.040 building a very large hammer and deploying it against our enemies, 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.960 can work and will work. And that is you know, 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.000 that's how I get out of bed every morning, is 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:49.800 we're building the hammer and we're swinging it. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.360 Yeah, that's a great way to put it. Very large. 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.760 Hammer will be a banging name for a podcast. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.400 I agree, Yeah, I agree. 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.000 Yeah, there's a there's a great speech the comic series 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.959 trans Metropolitan about how journalism is a gun that you 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:09.160 wire up to your eyes and your ears and several 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.600 other organs in order to shoot at the world. And 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.760 that's I think a good way to keep yourself doing 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.000 it when it feels like you're just shouting into a void. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:18.840 Yeah. 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:20.800 I really like the process of writing. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.640 I like telling stories like that makes me happy and 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.320 I feel so lucky I can do it for my job. 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.600 I don't particularly likely receiving trauma, which. 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:37.880 I also do for video, but like, really it sometimes 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:38.600 I can't sleep. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.560 So many people trusted me with their stories, especially this year, 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.320 that they didn't have to and sometimes a great personal risk, 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.760 and it's a massive privilege that they trusted me with 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.800 those stories, and I think I owe it to them 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.560 to do my best to tell those stories as well. 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:52.920 As I can. 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:58.200 Yeah, and like as Mia said, it has materially changed 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.440 the world. Like the amount of people who listened to 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.480 our podcast and came to the border to help last 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.720 year when we really desperately needed help, people who just 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.240 like on Sunday Night, gave their money, which I know 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.760 none of us have enough money right now to help 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.600 people who are displaced in Rushaba. Like, all that stuff 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.200 really makes it feel like if you tell a good 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.920 enough story, people will care. That's always what I felt like, 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:21.920 if you could just get people to see it, if 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.480 people could be there, they would care, and if they 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:28.000 care enough, they'll do something. Then I've seen that be 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.840 true with people who listen to the show, and that 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.280 really makes me happy, So I want to keep doing that. 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.920 Yeah, for me, it's two part answer. The first part 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:41.400 is that I genuinely give a shit about everything that 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:47.960 we put out, and what we do is not really 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:54.640 while it is a job, it matters so much. And 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:58.560 the second part is if I don't do my job, 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.520 the amount of people's lives that that impacts. 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.400 He's a lot of fucking. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.920 People, and I give a shit about each and every 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:12.000 one of them. So I'm gonna keep doing my job 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.880 so that everybody else can keep doing their job and 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.440 maybe we make a difference in this world, this fucked up, 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:23.440 crumbly world. Robert did you have anything to add. You 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.880 were speaking, and then nice talked. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:26.960 Did I already not give an answer? 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:28.960 You gave an answer, that's why, but you were starting 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:29.360 to speak. 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.240 Oh yeah, I do it for the fame. Baby. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:32.800 Great. 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:42.520 Next, What episode or episodes were your favorite this year 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:47.680 to make or otherwise? Yeah, my favorite this year. We're 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.720 definitely James's series from the Darien Gap. That was an 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.880 incredible series. I'm so unbelievably proud of it. Yeah, James 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:59.080 had been trying to do that work for a long time, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.400 and I'm happy that we were able to fund it 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.879 and James was able to do the incredible reporting that 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.359 he did. I'm also quite proud of Robert Garrison and 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.080 I surviving the RNC and DNC and C was. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:19.080 A good time, like legitimately. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.439 Great time, pulling the worst people in the world. 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:24.520 It was the DNC that fucked me up. Yeah, yeah, same. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.119 I was like destroyed emotionally after the DNC. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.040 Yeah, the DNC was really a huge bummer. 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.439 And then MIAs covered some of the most important labor 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:38.200 stories that like nobody covers absolutely yeah, and like without 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:43.480 those genuinely like nobody covers like small labor stories or 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.600 big labor stories and she's always on. 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:46.280 Top of that beat. 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:51.040 And yeah, I also really just like Robert's Don't Panic 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:57.400 episode something some great writing, my friend, I answered, now 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.000 everybody else has to I'll start with. 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.320 There's weirdly a few this year cool. 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.560 I normally isn't I like the Boeing ones? 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:07.200 That was fun. 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:08.400 Yeah. 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.199 The one that was most emotionally impactful for me was 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:15.480 getting to interview doctor Julius Serrano, who if you haven't 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.080 listened to that episode, go listen to it. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:17.760 Great book. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.679 Yeah, Whipping Girl is the book that literally created a 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.440 bunch of the like like that the concept of misgendering 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.440 is like from that book, right, like like the language 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.159 that we used to talk about transnist today like is 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.960 directly her. And so few people have ever read the book, 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.160 so a few people even know who she is. And 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.120 getting a chance to talk to her was like incredible. 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.600 And I'm also really happy about the organizing one that 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.880 I did, because I've gotten so many messages from people 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.680 who were just like, I, oh, wait, my knitting is 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:52.400 useful to organizing, and I'm like, yes, yes it is, 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.080 you're nitting. You're so incredible staggeringly useful. 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:56.920 Yeah, so I'm proud of that one. 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:01.520 Yeah, let's take a quick break then, Garrison, Robert James, 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:03.360 you can answer that question. 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.239 And we're back. James, how about you. 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:21.720 I'm proud of doing the Darien once. 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.400 I think, like, I'm so happy that we finally got 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:27.760 to a place where like we could do that, where 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.639 we could find that like I've been trying to do that, 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:35.120 like I said, for million, nearly a decade, and yeah, 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.720 it's been it's been hard, and it continues to be hard. 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:39.720 Like one of the people you heard from in those 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.800 episodes got deported last week then, so like it continues 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.280 to kind of be emotionally difficult. But I really liked 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.440 how many people messaged me and were like, I sent 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:54.159 this to my father uncle, not just dude aunts and 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.200 their mums too, I'm sure, and think non binary relatives, 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.280 but like, well maybe not because they sent it to 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:03.840 their right wing relati and they learned some compassion. That's 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:05.400 always what you want to do, Like I said before, 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:07.120 you want people to see it so that they care 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:08.920 and so they understand it and they don't just get 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.359 this stupid Fox News bullshit racism stuff. And so yeah, 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.679