1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you 3 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: Is Wednesday, September fifteenth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen, Episode 8 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: number twenty one. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break, 9 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: live in the SWBC Mortgage studios. At the start, we 10 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: got a lot we're gonna get into today. We're gonna 11 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about some topics that came up 12 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: earlier in the week when the Cowboys coordinators, offensive, defensive, 13 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: special teams had their press conference. There were a few 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: topics that I thought were interesting they will dissect. We'll 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: also get into a little talk on the Chargers offense 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: versus the Cowboys defense. We got Bucky Brooks joining us 17 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: in the second segment. He'll answer some questions and uh 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: and give us some scouting review on the team the 19 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: Cowboys will face on Sunday. Uh and and we'll maybe 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: get to some questions. We'll see how it goes. I 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: don't know how much Dave and Nick want to talk today, 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: but if they don't talk as much, then we'll maybe 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: get to some questions. We'll see. I take offense to that, 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: But why do you take offense? It's not a bad thing. 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: I like the fact you guys talk. That's good. That's 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: why people tune in. All right, whatever, Okay, all right, okay, 27 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: all right, let's go. Come on, let's go. All right, 28 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: let's talk today coordinator press conferences. Let's start first, Dave, 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: you had an interesting question for uh for for um 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: the offensive for the offensive coordinator um. You asked him 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: about the disparity run versus past. What was his answer 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: and what did you think of it? It's and I 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: don't think it's a controversy, but it's just it's something 34 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of rankled me here over the last week 35 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: because you see differing opinions about the way that the 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys played that. But essentially, I asked Kellen, you know 37 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: they famously threw fifty eight times and ran whatever it 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: was like, fourteen or fifteen, and Kellen even said they 39 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: checked out of half of their run calls from the game, 40 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: and I just asked him, you know, it's it's so 41 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: easy to put it into boxes of like throwing verse running, 42 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: like Zeke hast to hit this magic number, or we didn't, 43 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: we weren't balanced enough. And I was like, you don't 44 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: look at it that way, do you. It's a much 45 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: more collective approach. And he went into this whole spiel 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: about He's like, yeah, I mean, I don't care what 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: it says on the stat sheet. I mean, we threw 48 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: a quote unquote pass to Tony Pollard that traveled four 49 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: inches out of Dak's hands, and that counts as a pass, 50 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: but he picked up nine yards on it, and we 51 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: talked about it. We've talked about it a few times. 52 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: You know, they few They threw at least three or 53 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: four smoke screens in that game, just getting the ball out, 54 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: and it counts as a pass, but it's effectively a run. 55 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: And I love that approach. I love the fact that 56 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: Kellen moore and it's one game. It's a small sample size. 57 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: But that's what worries me, honestly, is that Zeke is 58 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: a ninety million dollar player, and you worry that the 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: team would feel pressure to feed him because of who 60 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: he is, and that was not the case on Thursday night, 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: and I think that's a wonderful thing. And I, like 62 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: I said, it kind of rankles me when people are like, well, 63 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: Zekes go to good as torches. You gotta no, you 64 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: do it. It's smart attack the defense in the way 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: that presents the best opportunity for success. And I've thought 66 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: about this over the last week is it reminds maybe 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: my least favorite game in the time that I've covered 68 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: this team is the twenty nineteen Vikings game. Pissed me 69 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: off so much because they kept running into that defense 70 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: on first and second and long and putting themselves in 71 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: situations and Dad kept bailing them out, only for them 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: to go back to the run at the end of 73 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: the game and it costs them in the game. It 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: was awful coaching, and so it was really encouraging to 75 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: see them do the opposite. I've been talking for five 76 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: minutes now, but it's something that I clearly feel passionately 77 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: about the It's interesting you mentioned that DAK changed a 78 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: lot of those plays. Nick. I think you said at 79 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: twelve of the past plays that it will call pass plays. 80 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: DAK checked at the line of scrimmage, just playing Devil's advocate, 81 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: because I personally believe, hey, do what's best when you 82 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: get to line scrimmage. If you need to check them 83 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: and you check them all to passes, if that's a 84 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: better look, go for it. But being Devil's advocate here, 85 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: do you think that could become problematic as the season 86 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: goes on if your offensive coordinators really wanting to establish 87 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: a run and sometimes you're running into situations where you 88 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: know you may not get a lot, but you do 89 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: need to keep balance. Do you in those instances think 90 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: that could be a little problem Yeah. I mean, and 91 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: I do think it's problematic. I think that's just being 92 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate. I think that it is. I like the 93 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: fact that you're not just going to run into a 94 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: brick wall if it's not there. If it's not there, 95 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: you're just doing it for the sake of running it 96 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: to try to, you know, keep them honest. And I 97 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: don't know if I agree with that, but I do 98 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: think that you know, certain plays, those those design screens, 99 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: bubble screens and all that that are really just trying 100 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: to to you know, move the chains in a different 101 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: way and spread them out. They don't work as well 102 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: down by the goal line. So I do think that 103 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: you have to establish that you have to run because 104 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: or you're just gonna kick field goals. And they did, 105 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: and they and they didn't win that way, this way 106 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: of Dak of carrying the team and throwing in all 107 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: these yards. I mean they're two and four. They're two 108 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: and four the last six games that Dak has started. 109 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: He keeps them in a game, but it has to 110 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: start flipping the other way, and it hasn't yet. But 111 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: I think he's amazing. I think he's playing out of 112 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: his mind. But I think they need a little bit 113 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: more balanced, and especially when it gets down to the 114 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: goal line, they're gonna have to figure out wheys to score. 115 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: And if it's just him throwing to a Marii Cooper, 116 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: if they can figure that out, then they'll figure it out. 117 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: But I mean, they gotta figure out ways to score. 118 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: I think running the ball will help them do that. 119 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: When you say balance, what do you mean? I think 120 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: balance as far as is run, not not just run past, 121 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: not just the amount of runs, but is where you 122 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: where do you utilize your yards in the middle of 123 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: the field. I mean, you have to like keep them 124 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: off offset a little bit because you can keep throwing 125 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: it to the wide sides and all that, but it 126 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: gets tightened up down there. I mean, eventually you're gonna 127 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: have to You're gonna have to work the middle, and 128 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: I think they will. I think this is an anomaly game. 129 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: I think in a lot of ways, you're not gonna 130 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: face a quarterback like that. You're not gonna face a 131 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: defense like that. So I want to see more. I 132 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: said this on the radio. I want to see more 133 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: games because Tampa was so unique to what I think 134 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: they're going to see most of the year. But didn't 135 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: they do that? If I'm if I'm remembering as correctly, 136 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: you guys have much much better photographic memories of points 137 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: and games. But it seemed like they were in the 138 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: red zone this last game. And I thought on first 139 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: down they ran Zeke, and then on second down Dak 140 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: ran the ball. Is that accurate? And then they and 141 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: I don't even know if they got an end zone 142 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: on that drive, but it did seem like they ran 143 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: so both with Dak and with Zeke in the red zone. 144 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: It still didn't necessarily mean that they got in the 145 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: end zone every time they were in the red zone, right, Yeah, 146 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean they got in the red zone is it 147 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: three times and scored one. They scored one out of four, 148 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: one touchdown out of four. I'm looking at it. Thank 149 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: you for the compliment. My memory is not that amazing, 150 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: but I mean much better at that than I. They 151 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: threw three straight times on the missed field goal by Zerline. 152 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: They did try. No, actually they went um. They threw 153 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: three straight times on the right after the quick change 154 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: turnover by Treyvon Diggs. Yeah, then, which I thought that 155 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: was the one that was like you probably ought to 156 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: do a little bit off the different goal. I don't 157 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: disagree with that. And then they did try to run 158 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: on the long drive at the beginning of the third 159 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: quarter and the obviously and some of that's execution, honestly, 160 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: like they did, they did try it, and that's um. 161 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: You know somebody, I think somebody asked us about that 162 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: earlier this week and I was like, that was a 163 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: great play call. You can get Jarwin's got a block. 164 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: Seke's got to do something better. I mean, it is 165 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: what it is like. You can do everything, you can 166 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: make every right decision up until the snap, and it 167 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: still won't work. If you don't do what you need 168 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: to do. You know. What's what's amazing kind of from 169 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: an ironic standpoint, where we were a month ago, you know, 170 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: out in California and worried about this and that when 171 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: it comes to deck, it's just if somebody would have 172 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: been like, oh, don't worry about the ankle. You know, 173 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: he'll run through it four times and and he'll run 174 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: an option on the gold line. They're fine. The shoulder, 175 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: he'll throw a fifty eight passes against the bucks and 176 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: he'll be fine. You know, don't worry about it. He's 177 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: gonna be okay. That's what he said. That what he said, basically, 178 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: that's what he said, and I think everybody else in 179 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: the country was trying to, i mean, paying a different 180 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: stories say this all the time that like next year, 181 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: we're not gonna fall for this. We're not gonna fall 182 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: for the bawn on the tailpipe. You know, we're not. 183 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: We're not We're not gonna do that. Like like if 184 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: they say that they're hurt, it's probably not a big deal. 185 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: But it's training camp. And then we do it. We 186 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: fall for it because if we gotta, you know, we're 187 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: gonna write about this and that, but like next year, 188 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: when a guy gets pulled out for one little thing, 189 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: like we're gonna be like, ah, it's probably not nothing. Well, 190 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: but then you go back two years ago, you just 191 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: got it that with with case by case basis. Yeah, 192 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: it just you just never know. But I will say this, 193 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: I won't make a habit of doubting Z. I mean 194 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: Dak when he says something when it comes to that, 195 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: because what we've seen is when he says I'm good, 196 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna be out there and and I will I 197 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: will follow that. I guess at this point, can I 198 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: just kind of throw this out there. I mean, I 199 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: said this, I'm talking about the last two seasons. We've 200 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: got one game, we've got five that Dak played and 201 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: they and I said, you know they're they're two and four. 202 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not blaming Dak. I'm saying this, this 203 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: style of play, it doesn't necessarily is not conducive to wins, 204 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: because both of those two wins were last second place. 205 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: But I think there are teams in the NFL that 206 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: have used that kind of formula and have one. Right, 207 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: Bucks played the same style of game and one they 208 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: ran the ball fourteen times for three and a half 209 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: yard Brady through fifty times. I mean, it does work. 210 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: The question becomes, as it worked for this team, do 211 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: you have the other pieces in place? Is the defense 212 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: good enough? Is the is the kicking game good like? 213 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: Those are the things. I don't know if it's necessarily 214 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: Dak in the style of using Dak to just throw 215 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: the ball a lot. If that's you know, yeah, and 216 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of games that come down to the 217 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: last play, last field goal. I mean that that's that's 218 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: that's going to happen. All I'm saying is is when 219 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: we've seen this shift of what's the best thing they do, 220 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: and right now the best thing that they're doing is 221 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: is kind of leaning on the deck. It's been great 222 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: and it's if you have Dak in your fantasy team, 223 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: you're loving it. But it doesn't necessarily mean that they're 224 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: winning games yet, and that that that could be for 225 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: a lot of different things. That's it's it's funny. It's 226 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: that Thursday night was a truer showing of what they 227 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: can do in my opinion, because again, and I know 228 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: Dak played five games, but it was such it was 229 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: so weird. I mean, getting down minus three in turnover 230 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: to differential, like probably three out of the five times 231 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: they played. That's not normal, but that's not normal by 232 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: any teams standards, and that is you know, going back 233 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: to the fact that they're not going to have Lyelle. 234 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: I have faith in Dak to make this work because 235 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: of how much he's grown as a quarterback, but having 236 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: an iffy offensive tackle opens you up a little bit 237 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: for turnovers. I mean, Cleveland's a great Terrence Steele gave 238 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: up a sack in that Browns game that I believe 239 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: Dak fumbled it right, Yeah, changed, Yeah, it changed the 240 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: course of it. It really where it started to kind 241 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: of get away from him. And that's I don't worry 242 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: about Dak having time or making throws and that type 243 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: of stuff. I think he can keep things going. But 244 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: that does give me pause because it was the turnover 245 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: problems that really it was that that sank them more 246 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: than the way that they were calling their offense last year. 247 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: So they, you know, credit Kellen Moore in the offense 248 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: is sorry, this is what we've got. We know what 249 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: we've got here in the interior, we know what they've got. 250 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna do these things on the outside. 251 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: Is it. Is it gonna be as tough in the 252 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: middle at San Diego? I'm sorry, dang it, it's over Wednesday. Wednesday, 253 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: dang it, Chargers defense, and uh no, it's probably not 254 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: going to be a stout in the middle, and you're 255 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: gonna get an all pro guard back in there with 256 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: Zach Martin. So I think they can. They can maybe 257 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: run the ball a little bit more, be a little 258 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: bit more balanced in the play calling of of where 259 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: they distribute the ball. I'll be surprised if it's that 260 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: skewed again this week. Yeah, But but you know, games 261 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: take a life of their own, and that's that's that 262 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: game did that, Like you said, the Bucks played that way, 263 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, back and forth, and it was just an 264 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: entertaining game it was, which I agree with you. It's 265 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: funny though, because again going back to when Dak was healthy, 266 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: like of the game's Dak has played in the McCarthy era, 267 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: I think somebody every week, somebody gets up there and 268 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, it's a weird game. I'm like, when 269 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: are you gonna play a normal game? Right when a 270 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: quote unquote yeah, Like, when are you gonna play a 271 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: game that's not weird, Like they all sort of follow 272 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: a bizarre script when you really boil it, like the 273 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: Rams game Week one maybe even no, no, no, no, no no, no, 274 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: you can't call that one not weird, because it was 275 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: the strangest thing I've ever heard of a football game 276 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: other than maybe a junior high game, where you just 277 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: just because nobody was there, nobody like CD caught like 278 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: a thirty yard pass and no one't even you just 279 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: hear CD lamb on the catch, like, oh yeah, it 280 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: was so that one was weird. Atlanta, I mean, top 281 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: five weird all time. You know, Cleveland that was pretty weird, 282 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: Top five weird all times. Seattle was a Seattle was 283 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: weird too. Tony Pollard put him behind the you know, 284 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: he put him in the hole with the safety pay 285 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: the Diggs play. Yeah, Tyler Lockett had a thirty burger 286 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: and fantasy by the second quarter in game. You know, 287 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: the whole reding was weird. I mean the whole season really, 288 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: but yeah, those those games, particularly twenty twenty was kind 289 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: of weird, just a g little weird, a little different. 290 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take our first break. Go ahead, Dave, 291 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: you guess him, No, I just now, I mean, we're 292 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: still weird, but just we're just normal weird. I guess 293 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know if that means, 294 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: but it sounds about right right. Were gonna take our 295 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: first break and we come back. We're gonna have Bucky 296 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: Brooks join us. 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Welcome back to the second segment 341 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: of The Break live from the s WBC Markets studios 342 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: at the Star. Got Nick and Dave with me, and 343 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: we also got on the line normal addition to our 344 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: show every Wednesday and Thursday. Mister Bucky Brooks from NFL Network, 345 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: What up, Bucky? How you going good? Good? It's time 346 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: to get a little insight on these chargers first. Before 347 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: we get to that, though, I'd love for you just 348 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: to give me kind of a quick review of your 349 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: thoughts on the Cowboys versus Buccaneers really interesting because the 350 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys say much better than I anticipated in the game. 351 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't a pretty game for them, but I thought 352 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: they adapted and adjusted the hand of the energy I've 353 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: dealing with the defending champions about Dak Prescott was very 354 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: impressive getting the ball out of his hand um. I 355 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: think the football world got a chance to see why 356 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: some have touted him as a top five play at 357 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: the position. I think he showed all of that and 358 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: that was the really impressive part. Vicho Elliott won't get 359 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: enough credit for the job that he did and passed 360 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: the section, but for those who take shots to him 361 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: for the lack of run game production, I think his 362 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: value as that pass protector really showed up. And the 363 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: defensively they took the ball of the head four turnovers 364 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 1: and so it was a winnable game. I think they 365 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: are rude the job that Blake Joeward did down to 366 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: the goal line on the option player that should have 367 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: been a touchdown. But I think there's things to build on. 368 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: But they don't have to step up a play because 369 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: the team they got coming on deck, it's a really 370 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: good team. All right, Let's move on to that team. 371 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: The Chargers tell me, as we like to start, what 372 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: does their offense do best and what is their greatest weakness? 373 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: For one, this is a well coached football team for 374 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: a young guy. Brandon Staley has a clear vision for 375 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: how he wants the team to play. They do a 376 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: really good job of avoiding the self inflicted team that 377 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: hurt teams, and then they got a lot of talent offensively. 378 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: I would say the best thing that they do is 379 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: that combination of Keenan Allen and Justin Herbert is real. 380 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: Keiman Allen is I mean look and he going all 381 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: the way back. He's kind of like an N one 382 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: mixtape street ball artist on the perimeter. He is going 383 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: to be a problem on the outside in terms of 384 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: his rout running ability and his ability to create separation. 385 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: And then Justin Herbert just plays the game at a 386 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: maturity level that it kinds beyond his years. And so 387 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: this is one where the Cowboys coverage and pass rush 388 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: has to step up because this is a passing team, 389 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: not a running team. What does he I know we 390 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: look at dynamic running backs, but you know, Austin Eckler, 391 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: he's a guy that kind of does so many different things, 392 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: Like how can he hurt Now? I know he wasn't 393 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy this last game, but how does 394 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: he really kind of hurt teams with his ability to 395 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: kind of do so many different things? You know. And 396 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna be friends like he 397 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: he's okay, you know what I'm saying. Like, I don't 398 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: think he's great. I don't think he causes like sleepless night. 399 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: I think he's the beneficiary of playing with telling the 400 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: troop around him and his his production is more of 401 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: a byproduct of teams wanting to take away other guys 402 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: and they will live with him doing what he does. 403 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: He has not been a guy that since he has 404 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: been given the RB one role that has really lived 405 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: up to expectations when it comes to it. But if 406 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: you let him get his space and work one on 407 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: one on your linebacker, your linebacker can't cover. He certainly 408 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: can give you problems. But as to others that were 409 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: you more than Austin Eckley coming out of back there, 410 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: So Bucky. I used to hate talking about cornerbacks traveling 411 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: because in the Rod Marinelli era they didn't do it. 412 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: It felt like a waste of time. But we saw 413 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs go with Mike Evans a little bit last 414 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: week and he did an amazing job. So my question 415 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: to you is, do you think he's up to that 416 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 1: challenge against Keenan Allen or maybe do you try to 417 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: stick him with Mike Williams and sort of handle Keenan 418 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: Allen by committee? What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, 419 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: so it's really two different thoughts on how you do 420 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: it right. So if you travel, you're a corner. You 421 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: can go good on good, meaning look, I'm gonna go 422 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: Traylon Digg versus Keenan Allen and you have to handle 423 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: him without help. I'm not sending a linebacker or safe 424 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 1: you're anybody in your direction. Or I can take Trayvon 425 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: Diggs and lock up your number two, double team your 426 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: number one and see if I can force you to 427 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: your third option in the passing end. Not knowing DQ 428 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: well enough when it comes to those that because I 429 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: don't know how he'll elect the handle of that. But 430 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: the one thing about traveling, look, it's easy for the 431 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: guy who is the traveler. It's harder for everybody else 432 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: if they don't have the IQ and the flexibility to 433 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: move around and play different things, even though it seems 434 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: like it'd be easy, like, hey, everyone's playing a man 435 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: to man, but man, it's different playing inside and imposed 436 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: the outside. So you have to know your personnel and know, 437 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: am I okay with Jordan Lewis maybe having to go outside, 438 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: or I'm okay with Anthony Brown maybe having to play 439 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: in the slot if you match it up that way, 440 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: And so you have to feel like what gives my 441 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: as the best opportunity to succeed. And sometimes you may 442 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: flue traveling. Sometimes it may say, hey, let's play right 443 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: and left and just come a line up and play 444 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: whoever's on our side, Bucky, when you When I went 445 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: back and looked at some of the stats from that 446 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: week one game between the Chargers and the Washington football team, 447 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: the Chargers are now after one game, fifth in passing 448 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: in the league, and that's against one of a defense 449 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: that most of us believe is one of the better 450 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: defenses in the league. Certainly has a great pass rush, 451 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: good defensive front. What did they do in this game? 452 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: What did the Chargers do in this game to have 453 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: success against a really really stout Washington defense. They're guys 454 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 1: the firm were better than the guy. For the Washington 455 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: football team, Ray shown Slater was not worried or intimidated 456 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: or fearful of Chase Young at all, and he played 457 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: that way very early in the game, and after a 458 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: while Washington Chase Young off of him. And so, as 459 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, when you have a good, a dominant blue 460 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: chef left tackle, it allows you to be able to 461 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: do a bunch of different things. And the charges have 462 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: enough confidence that now they're able to expand the playbook 463 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: for Justin Herbert because they feel like he is going 464 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: to be protected. And when you do that, you get 465 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: five out in the route. You have a quarterback who's 466 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: a good decision maker. They can consttely put pressure on 467 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: the defense because they can find Walter, they can find 468 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: the matchup that they like, and they can go to 469 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: it over and over again. And so because they're better 470 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: up front, and also Quinton Lindsay the center the offensive 471 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: lineage echether so because the lineage better, they can do 472 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: more things than offer. I'm glad you mentioned rashawn S later, 473 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: so I don't have to Bucky appreciate that. But well, 474 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: and going along with that, I talked about this on 475 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: the show yesterday, they only pressure Herb. Washington only pressure 476 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: Herbert five out of forty nine times the other day. 477 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: And that's terrifying in its own right. But the thing 478 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: that worries me is it fair to say Herbert is 479 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: a guy he just I mean, he seems like a 480 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: play extender, Like I just feel like Dallas is going 481 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: to be playing a bunch of six and seven second plays. 482 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: Is that accurate? And what can they do to kind 483 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: of combat that and get Herbert to get rid of 484 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit faster. Well, it's a combination 485 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: injective in the Washington ball team. They really don't like 486 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: to bring pleasure. They're not like a blitz happy team. 487 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: So they're different than the Buccaneers were played. They're different 488 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: than the Ravens are play They're not going to challenge 489 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: you to pick up all the exotic and the line 490 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. If it is that with Cowboys, you gotta 491 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: eat it up. I don't think you're good enough to 492 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: just line up and say, hey, we're gonna rush for 493 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: play seven and our guys have been in the yor guys. 494 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: I think Q has to be creative and how he 495 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: attacks Herbert. He has to kind of make him pass 496 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: some difficulty uncovering and figuring out what they're doing, and 497 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: some of that may be from packages, moving Michael Parsons around, 498 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: moving people around, put in different spots, guys in different spots, 499 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: so maybe they can't get the protection lined up right. 500 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: But you have to use some creativity to just disc 501 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: up the rhythm of the quarterback because Justin Herbert is 502 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: too good. If you're going to make this a seven 503 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: on seven game, he is going to win in those 504 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: games and he's already shown that as a second year player. 505 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: You know, Bucky, we talked about you talk about Parsons 506 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: from our view or my view, I'll say I'll speak 507 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: for myself in the from the press box. The first 508 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: half looked like a Markeat looked like a rookie from 509 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: you know this playing his first ever game against the 510 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: best quarterback in the world. The second game, he looked 511 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: like the guy that everyone's kind of expecting. Did you 512 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: see the same thing? What do you What did you 513 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: see out of Micah? Yeah? We look man. The game 514 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: is big for rickies particularly, is a big stage, is 515 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: a prime time game the football world is watching. Is 516 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: different like you guysn't been arounded enough to know there's 517 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: something different about playing Thursday night, prime time, Monday night, 518 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: Sunday night, because all eyes are on you, so it's 519 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: taking a while to settle ends. The second half, we 520 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: saw the Michael Parson that everyone wanted to see. We 521 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: saw the versatility, we saw the speed to tire of 522 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: the explosiveness. We saw the disruptive playmaking potential. And I 523 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: like the combination where they had Michael Parsons and Keanomel 524 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: on the field at the same time. I do wonder 525 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: how they're going to continue to reshuffle the deck when 526 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: it comes to the linebackers to put the best eleven 527 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: on the field. But I think Mike is going to 528 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: be fine. I think he has an opportunity to be 529 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: a difference maker, and they need him to be a 530 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: difference theaker just when he gives the Chargers. Let's talk 531 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: about the Chargers and what I think was probably their 532 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: achilles heel in this game. If you look at the numbers, 533 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: they averaged nine plays per drive, which was second in 534 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: the league last year. I mean last week they average 535 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: forty seven yards per drive, which was fourth in the league. 536 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: But the only average two point two points per drive, 537 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: which suggests to me they moved the ball a lot 538 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: and pretty effectively and then bogged down when it came 539 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: to getting the ball into the end zone. What happened 540 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: as far as their offense was concerned that kept them 541 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: from getting as many points as their yards suggests they 542 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: maybe should have had a couple of them. Just saying that, 543 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: want about the sas that you put. If you have 544 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: nine and tim played and the Nastional Football League average, man, 545 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: it's the odds work against you. The more plays that 546 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: j haveb because the eyes could get something bad is 547 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: going to happen. A ton of the negative play a 548 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: turnover is just hard. It's the same drive. So the 549 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: number one thing is they're not getting enough exclusive plays. 550 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: They can accumulate a lot of yards, but they're not 551 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: getting the chump plays because the score point in the NFL, 552 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: you have to have explosive plays twenty five plus passes 553 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: being able to throw it outside of the rid zone 554 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: into the end zone for touchdowns. And so they go 555 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: from twenty to twenty. But then the red zone. The 556 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: Washington football team plays a really good rid zone defense. 557 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: They used the field dimensions to the advantage. They use 558 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: the sideline and the end zone as extra defenders, and 559 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: they were able to keep things in front and force 560 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: them to settle for field goals and those things. And 561 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: so it should be a defensive job. And so for 562 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, once again, it is understanding what are the 563 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: most important things that you want to take away. Keep 564 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: the ball in front of the defense, don't give them 565 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: the cheat ones. Make them earn those yards and earn 566 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: the points. And so if they can do that, and 567 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: know he's made link up three hundred yards. But if 568 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: we can keep the twenty yard post plast page under 569 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: wraps and not let often Heckler anybody's leak out, I 570 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: think to the Cowboys defense will play one of them 571 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: to get a win. That's really great insight, Bucky. We 572 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: appreciate it. All right. We'll be gon. We're gonna take 573 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: our final break when we come back. We will be 574 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit more about this matchup between 575 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: the Chargers offense and the Dallas defense. We'll have Bucky 576 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: back on again tomorrow. He'll break down the Chargers defense 577 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: versus the Cowboys offense. 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Find 615 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: a retailer nearest you at Stetson dot com. Slash Cowboys. 616 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: Back to the brink. Invite Rowdy to your next event, 617 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: from watch parties to birthday parties, corporate events, special deliveries, 618 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: and more. Rowdy brings games, entertainment, and photo opportunities to 619 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: all occasions. Visit Dallas Cowboys dot com slash Rowdy to 620 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: book your appearance today. I'm so upset. It's my mom's 621 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: birthday today. I forgot to do that. If I was 622 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: willing to spend the money, wodrowdy just come to a 623 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: sports bar and watch football with me? Yes you think so? Yes, Yes, 624 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: he's two hours. About the money you just you pay 625 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: him for two hours, he's gonna show, sit next to me, 626 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: don't talk, pose for photos with whatever. Well, I know, 627 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: don't don't talk. Yeah, that parts he browny, don't talk. Now, 628 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: the other part of him kind of doing goofy stuff, 629 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: Like I don't know how you feel about that now. 630 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: I don't want him to do goosey stuff. I just 631 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: want him to sit on the stool next to me 632 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: and watch football. Well you drink it's there. Yeah, it's 633 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: hot and sweaty in there. Yeah. I thinking he would 634 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: do that. I'll look in there. It would be interesting 635 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: because when you're like especially if your team loses, because 636 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: if your team loses, you get into this like weird 637 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: funk of like, you know, the life is ending everybody, Yeah, 638 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: my nihilistic side, right, So then you just turn and 639 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: you're like, you know what, it doesn't matter. It doesn't 640 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: matter because because you know the ozones dying anyways. And 641 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: you look over and you see Browdy, You're like, oh, 642 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: maybe maybe he sparks a little bit of you know, energy, 643 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: or maybe you want to punch him in the face. 644 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just love the mental image of 645 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: me being drunk and depressed about my bad football team 646 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: and Rowdy's just sitting next to me, grinning from year 647 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: to year with that permanent smile in space. Yeah, that'd 648 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: be great starring in lsu Jersey. I'll buy him one. Yeah, 649 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: that would be interesting. All right, I don't think that 650 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: would work, but go ahead. Everyone hates us. They want 651 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: us to talk about the Cowboys, all right. I did 652 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: want to have I had a couple of questions coming 653 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: out of our interview with Bucky. For you guys, Nick, 654 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: you I think were the one that mentioned the whole 655 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: idea of traveling. We hadn't talked a lot about that 656 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: from last week? What was that day? Sorry, Dave, don't 657 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: have a good memory. I don't have horrible memory. I 658 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: absolutely have a horrible memory. Um. But that being said, 659 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: what would you guys do? Would you would you consider 660 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: traveling him this week? In future weeks, and if so 661 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: specifically to this week? Which which route do you tend 662 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: to go for? Do you say take away the top 663 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: guy or do you say take away the second guy 664 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: and I'll do it bout committee with the top guy. 665 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: I think I said it earlier this week that Treyvon 666 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: did so great against Mike Evans. Keenan Allen is a 667 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: He's a similar type of player. Um, although that's probably 668 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: when I say that, I just mean they're both big. 669 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how similar they're. Like, Mike Evans is 670 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: a big, go get the ball guy. Keenan Allen is 671 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: just as much of a technician as Amari Cooper in 672 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: terms of the way he gets open and his wingspan 673 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: is insane. I don't I would like to maybe I'd 674 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: like to see more from Trayvon before I'm ready to 675 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: ask that of him. Maybe, And that's Bucky. Is it 676 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: more of Ben ask than last week? That's what I 677 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: don't know, I think I think Keenan Allen's I think 678 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen's better player than Mike Evans. I don't know. 679 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: I said that very unconfidently. I get. I mean, it's 680 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: they're both really good and he played really great. If 681 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: that's the way they want to go, I got no complaints. 682 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: But maybe Trayvon would do a better job of working 683 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: on Mike Williams and you can collectively deal with Keenan Allen. 684 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: I could see it either way. I I didn't even 685 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: think this was a conversation because I didn't think Trayvon 686 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: Digs was good enough to take Michael Evans away like that, 687 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: with due respect to him. So this is sort of 688 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: opening my mind to a brand new set of possibilities 689 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: that we could see as we go. You know. The 690 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: thing of it, and we've done this for years. It's 691 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: like a lot of times when people ask, you know, 692 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? Are they gonna do this? 693 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna put that. You know, It's not like a 694 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: baseball game where you go into and you have to 695 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: turn in your lineup before the game. I mean, it's everything. 696 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: It's everything. You just said, double team him, you know, 697 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: let let Digs travel with Keenan Allen for a series 698 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: and then and then when they sit down the sideline, 699 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: they're like, all right, hey, so when twenty seven follow 700 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: sorry he's seven. Now when seven follows you around and 701 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: then the next thing you know, he's on the other 702 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: side and you double team him. So you're gonna do 703 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. But again, I like the 704 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: fact that they're doing a little bit of everything. It 705 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: probably makes it a little more of a challenge because 706 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: the defense has to be smart enough to adapt him 707 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: game to doing different things. But I think that's actually 708 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 1: a better things. It's a breath of fresh air. I mean, 709 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli just he did what he did, and he 710 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: didn't like to do. He didn't like to travel, He 711 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: kept guys where they were, he didn't like to blitz somebody. 712 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: During the Raiders game, a friend of mine on Twitter 713 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: was like the Raiders of Blitz like once, I didn't 714 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: even know this was possible, And I was like, I did. 715 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: I watched Rod Marinelli coach defense for like eight years. Yeah, 716 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: this is what he does. They you gotta give him 717 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: some credit. Though. They did a nice job with nour Jackson. 718 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: They did especially later and they did I mean they 719 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: won the game. I didn't mean to. I'm not throwing 720 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: too much dirt on Rod Marinelli, not on the defensive. 721 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: Would his resume? Wait what in that game? Yeah? Yeah, 722 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: I thought it wasn't. But he just he doesn't like 723 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: the blitz. See, he wants to get home with his 724 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: front flour and Max Crosby did that a lot for 725 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: him the other night. Yeah. I will say this thought, 726 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: and I feel like a broken record to say it 727 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: all the time. But you know when when you say, well, 728 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: Diggs travels, If Diggs travels, Anthony Brown travels, like they 729 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: both travel, that's the thing like and so, yes, Diggs 730 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: is capable of doing it, but that means the other 731 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: guy has to do it as well. All right, real quick, 732 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: before we end the show, I did want to get 733 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: your perspectives on the linebacker position. Bucky talked a little 734 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: bit about it this week. Do you expect to see 735 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: a similar um? Do you expect to see Dallas do 736 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: a similar thing from the standpoint of how they deploy 737 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: their linebackers, primarily using Parsons and and Kian O'Neil, Because 738 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: in last week's game it was more about stopping the pass. 739 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: I don't like it. Honestly, I think Layton Vanderesh needs 740 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: to play football. I think he needs to be out 741 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: on the field. I think he's a really good player 742 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: when he's healthy. He hasn't always been healthy, but I'm 743 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: gonna give him a shot. He needs to play more. 744 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: I think him and Parsons need to play in the nickel, 745 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: and I'd put Neil in there too. He used to 746 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: play safety. Let put them all in there. Make him 747 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: a safety in the nickel. I think vander Esh is 748 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: more effective if he's out there. I don't necessarily think 749 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: you're wrong, but I just I see it kind of 750 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: trend in that way where Neil and Parsons eat up 751 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: the snaps because this league it's turning into basketball on grass. 752 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: It already has been, but that's not going away. Austin 753 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: Ekeler what he does, and he actually did not catch 754 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: a pass in Week one, but I wonder how much 755 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: more they'll get him involved as he gets healthier. That's 756 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: a guy that I want speed. I want speed on speed. 757 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: I want guys who can move in space. Not saying 758 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 1: jayla Hella, not saying Laton Vanderesh can't do that, but 759 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: a guy who used to play safety, maybe could do 760 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 1: a better. We know about MICA's athleticism, so with just 761 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: the way that teams like to attack through the error, 762 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: I tend to think that these snap counts are going 763 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: to stay the way they were, and now if they 764 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: get late and more involved, I'm not upset about that. 765 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: But that's just sort of my expectation. I thought he 766 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: was pretty good and you know, getting interceptions and stuff 767 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: his rookie year. I know that's a few years ago, 768 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: but I still think he can do that. I think 769 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: he's an instinct, instinctive player. Um. I'd like to see 770 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,959 Speaker 1: him out there more. And I'm not saying for for Neil. 771 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: I think Neil can play safety. I really do. And 772 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: I think so in like Neil comes in for Donovan. Yeah, 773 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, all right. I mean, you know, 774 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: or Donovan played pretty well. Yeah he did. I mean, 775 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: or Casey or whatever, you know, trick it up, I mean, 776 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: figure figure out ways to do it. But I think 777 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: vander esh, you know, his biggest achilles heel is when 778 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: he's hurt. When he's not, he's a good football player. 779 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: All Right, that's a rap. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll 780 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: get into Cowboys offense versus the Chargers defense. Till then 781 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: for Nick even, Dave Helm and I'm Derek Eagleton. This 782 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 783 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 784 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.