Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Reggie Jr.
Speaker 1: And Allen Tomonso on the Digital soap Box Network material
Speaker 1: witness on an aggregated battery, I was a hang gun
Speaker 1: and um, they believe this might be in retaliation to
Speaker 1: our testimony. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening wherever
Speaker 1: you may be listening from Welcome to another episode of
Speaker 1: the Gangster Chronicles. This is episode thirty in. My name
Speaker 1: is Alex Alonso from Street TV, and I'm here with
Speaker 1: my two co hosts, James McDonald. Thank you very much
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Speaker 1: will no longer be on Bound First because he already
Speaker 1: did his last show, so were gonna be breaking up
Speaker 1: some interviews. He will be returning to Bound First maybe
Speaker 1: at some point in hopefully the middle of UM. But
Speaker 1: I'm sure you could send him a message on his
Speaker 1: Facebook page and you could also d m him on
Speaker 1: Instagram at Reggie dot right dot jr. Hopefully he'll have
Speaker 1: access to some burn her cell phone. I'm not no,
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not. I'm just kidding. You go to
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Speaker 1: Alonso one zero one. So let's start episode He wait,
Speaker 1: I'll talk about the elephant in the room. We're supposed
Speaker 1: to be having a last all today. What happened. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna get right into the show we wanted, we wanna.
Speaker 1: Oh man, how did you do it? Just apologize to
Speaker 1: everybody out there that that the live show didn't go.
Speaker 1: Um whatever the cage might be. Um, the show must
Speaker 1: go on to me, but it didn't show. You know,
Speaker 1: all of us, we we we we have a pack.
Speaker 1: So it's all four of us, all five of us
Speaker 1: pretty much. You know, you gotta gotta ship back. And
Speaker 1: we agree to everything. We agree to disagree on ship
Speaker 1: and the show didn't go, but we guarantee and I
Speaker 1: don't want to do a live show until Reggie come back. Anyway,
Speaker 1: by that time we should be we should be real
Speaker 1: good and bringing Reggie back. Everybody maybe want to come,
Speaker 1: just coming party, that's what we should do against Chronicle party. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll work it out, all right. So let's get into
Speaker 1: this episode number thirty. Doing a quick fact check from
Speaker 1: episode twenty nine. If you haven't heard episode twenty nine,
Speaker 1: please go back and check that out. That one's entitled
Speaker 1: pin the tail Dot dot dot. And the first first
Speaker 1: fact check is Rosemo seven hundred was shot and killed
Speaker 1: on November two, two thousand eleven. His real name is
Speaker 1: Joe Mo Zambia and uh November second, two thousand eleven.
Speaker 1: He was twenty six years old when he was killed.
Speaker 1: And the video that was uploaded between him and Bosco fighting, well,
Speaker 1: it really wasn't a fight. It was getting walked like
Speaker 1: a dog. That was uploaded in October. There's no actual
Speaker 1: date of that conflict, but so just what maybe a week,
Speaker 1: two weeks, three weeks later Rosemo ends up shot and
Speaker 1: killed in Inglewood. So no, no, no, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: we talked, We talked about that last week briefly, and
Speaker 1: I'm just giving you the correct um the dates on that. Also, James,
Speaker 1: last week he showed us a picture of Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Sheriff Deputy Samuel al Dama. That was the one that
Speaker 1: said he had problems with black people. His name was
Speaker 1: Samuel Abdama and he shot and killed Dante Taylor, thirty
Speaker 1: one years old, unarmed, incompetent on August sixteen, and he
Speaker 1: was unarmed, and the family just got a seven million
Speaker 1: dollar judgment for that shooting with Samuel. I don't even
Speaker 1: think he got fired for that. Did he get fired, No,
Speaker 1: he did not get fired. Okay, I don't even think
Speaker 1: he got fired. And they found out that the tattoo
Speaker 1: he had, he was he was a gang inside of
Speaker 1: the police department. Like five of them a little click
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know what, even Marines or any No,
Speaker 1: this was some comforty ship. You hate this last night
Speaker 1: here they all have their little clicks on their Okay,
Speaker 1: so you got five police officers and the come to
Speaker 1: the police department. It says it in the damn thing.
Speaker 1: I'm just that this won't be a bad I'm not
Speaker 1: hold up. The man clearly said that he had a
Speaker 1: problem with black people. We should have been fired. Then
Speaker 1: he didn't already kill the black man. He already been
Speaker 1: proven to be in a gang within the gang in
Speaker 1: the police department. This is how you break that ship up.
Speaker 1: And now they all them them fire, they ride together.
Speaker 1: They all got the same chat or whatever. If you're
Speaker 1: in the Marines, get a marine chat. You're a police officer.
Speaker 1: You ain't supposed to be in no mother pucking clicking gang.
Speaker 1: You did to do your job individually. So what type
Speaker 1: of ship is that? And then he didn't get fired. Well,
Speaker 1: according to the attorney Carl Douglas, one of the best
Speaker 1: civil rights attorneys in America, he accuses a lot of
Speaker 1: these police clicks as basically gang banging. They are, and
Speaker 1: of course he's a civil attorney. So but do you
Speaker 1: believe there's gangs inside the gangs inside the police department?
Speaker 1: Thank you? All right, Let's move on to another comment
Speaker 1: that James brought up last week about the cop that
Speaker 1: was arrested for having KK and Confederate flag memorabilion in
Speaker 1: his house. That was Officer Charles Anderson of the Muskegon
Speaker 1: Police Department. And he was fired after they found that out.
Speaker 1: And they found that out of him and fired it.
Speaker 1: This one didn't get fired. He had he committed murder
Speaker 1: and didn't get fired. Let's listen to the whole deposition.
Speaker 1: Why not they they I don't want to talk, Reggie.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna win the night with me. The motherfucker's
Speaker 1: a KKK Are you talking about him? No more? He
Speaker 1: got KKK ship. This is what this They police and us,
Speaker 1: but they k KK members, you feel me? Now they
Speaker 1: find out good they fired it well and I agree
Speaker 1: with that. Well, the article I found didn't say he
Speaker 1: was a member. He had KKK memorabilitation. Oh he did. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: even if you think about KKK member. But you know
Speaker 1: what his excuse was. His excuse, I'm researching. I'm a collector.
Speaker 1: I mean if I came across some stuff like that,
Speaker 1: I might actually save it just to show my kids
Speaker 1: and say the same ship too. Yeah, get to go
Speaker 1: to the UH which called we get a book he
Speaker 1: look here, look or some some motherfucking racist motherfucker like that.
Speaker 1: You don't have that the hole and save that ship?
Speaker 1: What they doing in your house? Shouldn't have it saved
Speaker 1: where it was displayed in his house? You know how
Speaker 1: they they found out he was selling his house and
Speaker 1: a potential buyer walked in, a black potential buyer walked
Speaker 1: in and was like, damn, what is this dude all about?
Speaker 1: And he reported it and that's how he got fired.
Speaker 1: The reason why I saved that, it's just say this
Speaker 1: is what we are up against. We got police officers
Speaker 1: and gangs. You got I did it to show the
Speaker 1: video where you had military guys coming from the military
Speaker 1: joining the police force that that was writing him thirteen
Speaker 1: and all this other ship on the walls that were
Speaker 1: gang members and then come and then they police officers.
Speaker 1: You bring with the mentality, the mentality you had in
Speaker 1: the Marines is the same ship you bring as a
Speaker 1: police officer. This is where we up against. I didn't
Speaker 1: say game members can have jobs. There's a million game
Speaker 1: members with jobs. There's a million of them. And then
Speaker 1: last week, James, you actually asked the question how many
Speaker 1: police officers have been convicted of murder? So I did
Speaker 1: a little research and I found about thirty one cops
Speaker 1: in the United States during the last hundred years have
Speaker 1: been charged with murder um. Not all of them on duty,
Speaker 1: some of them duty, but they were with their um.
Speaker 1: Actually a couple of them were not their service weapon too.
Speaker 1: But so far thirty officers, thirty one officers going back
Speaker 1: to eighteen ninety and not all of them were found guilty. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's do this. You got dirty officers. How many
Speaker 1: bodies about we're taking stuff out of out of conce
Speaker 1: how many police officers don't kill the motherfucking and I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure something to kill the wise. Yeah, A couple
Speaker 1: of these guys on this list of thirty one killed
Speaker 1: their girlfriend or killed their wife. A couple of them
Speaker 1: were actually serial killers. Uh. Two officers were actually working
Speaker 1: for the mafia dropping bodies. Is it safe to say
Speaker 1: that the police officers are just like us? They think
Speaker 1: just like us, they walked just like us, but they
Speaker 1: wear a uniform. Jae, I kill it all the time,
Speaker 1: I said all the time. Don't give me about two
Speaker 1: percent a dirty motherfucking cocks. That's this bad, that's I
Speaker 1: right dirty. I say, within any police department, two percent.
Speaker 1: So what's two percent on a twelve thousand man union?
Speaker 1: You know, l APD s about twelve thousand, very small bad.
Speaker 1: But these are the only ones where a district attorney
Speaker 1: or d A decided to file. They choose to file.
Speaker 1: It doesn't include like Dante uh Dante Taylor who was
Speaker 1: shot and killed in Compton a few years ago. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of those, but I don't know killed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: shot and killed unarmed. Thirty one cops charged with murder,
Speaker 1: not even convicted. Thirty one were charged. The ones that
Speaker 1: that they say that, um they was it was legal
Speaker 1: that they don't find no wrong doing, they don't show them,
Speaker 1: they don't put them in that statistics. No. So, so
Speaker 1: answer to your question, how many convicted of murder less
Speaker 1: than thirty one, because not all of these were even convicted.
Speaker 1: Oh so your thinking is convicted, these were charged from
Speaker 1: murder by a district attorney and convicted. Some of there's
Speaker 1: like three that are actually pending. So something. And also
Speaker 1: want to say a lot of these are within the
Speaker 1: last twenty years, even though it goes back to that
Speaker 1: killed two someone guys in competing. I wonder if he's
Speaker 1: on there. His name was Al Scowls. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's on here, and I don't think this is a cost.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't think your your list is accurate
Speaker 1: because a scot to someones on some morns and I
Speaker 1: don't mean allow. I just think how crazy it was.
Speaker 1: He had him on the hood of the car and
Speaker 1: they came off the car and he uh was he charged?
Speaker 1: He was charged, He went to trial, he beat it
Speaker 1: in trial. But yeah, well, this is definitely well. I
Speaker 1: put this list together yesterday and today of these thirty
Speaker 1: one officers, and this is for those of y'all want
Speaker 1: to research it and pick it up. Al scowls. This
Speaker 1: list is definitely not comprehensive, and it's something that when
Speaker 1: when I was listening to your question, that's something we
Speaker 1: should know, like we should actually know state by state
Speaker 1: the whole country with years. And this list doesn't exist
Speaker 1: on the internet. There's not a place you can go
Speaker 1: and find all this information because they don't want to
Speaker 1: show that. They don't want you to be up on
Speaker 1: that or understand that part. They they're like said, get somebody.
Speaker 1: The research has an entry for cops charged with murder
Speaker 1: and they had twelve names. When I first saw that,
Speaker 1: I was only twelve. But then I found on another
Speaker 1: site and found another fifteen name. So I actually compiled
Speaker 1: this just the thirty one from bringing like three or
Speaker 1: four websites together. Yeah, and he's not on there, so
Speaker 1: it's plenty. It's just like that. Well it's still um
Speaker 1: for the last Yeah, for a hundred years American policing,
Speaker 1: even if the numbers fifty and a hundred years, that's
Speaker 1: pretty a hundred years. At the beginning of that, it
Speaker 1: was legal to kill a nigger, a black person. Well,
Speaker 1: they got one guy in here that years ago did
Speaker 1: it in uh Drede they did it and got away
Speaker 1: with it. It was they was hanging they come on, man,
Speaker 1: we know all right the last fact check and I
Speaker 1: did from police officer for white men. This is related
Speaker 1: to something that Reggie said last week regarding Should Knight.
Speaker 1: Uh you called him snitch and working with the police.
Speaker 1: And I just want to express that. Well, my intent
Speaker 1: was was this well ahead. And I think this comes
Speaker 1: from a quote that attorney to Mont Gibbons gave which
Speaker 1: we talked about last week. And okay, and this is
Speaker 1: what he said. He said regarding the whole Harry oh
Speaker 1: olidia Um case that got overturned, that that bankruptcy that
Speaker 1: got overturned. He stated, complaints will be sent to the
Speaker 1: California State Bar and the FBI complaints completely know what
Speaker 1: to complaint is? If Mike complaint can go, how does
Speaker 1: I can get it? Everybody knows Should She'll get Like
Speaker 1: I just said earlier, she'll get trying to take the
Speaker 1: whole goddamn treat. She'll just want some money from his ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I can get five times that. And he's been
Speaker 1: like that, so this ain't this a fair statement? My
Speaker 1: question was all My question was because right now, because
Speaker 1: we take it to civil no no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: take to the n I have your people. It's his money,
Speaker 1: not I think, but it's his money. It's hoppy conduct losait. Wait,
Speaker 1: let me see, it's his million money. I had lost
Speaker 1: a building in that bag Roughcy. That was with the
Speaker 1: buildings three million dollars I paid for that. Motherfucker's just
Speaker 1: sold for nineteen million dollars a few months ago. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Reggie took a loss too, so that as soon as
Speaker 1: everybody start going to jail out. But I want to
Speaker 1: express that there's not there's no evidence that Should Night
Speaker 1: is snitching or infarming based on the harry O's reverse judge. Well,
Speaker 1: when you speculating that on the attorneys quo exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So last week you kind of came off a little
Speaker 1: bit more hard on him a little bit. Well, I
Speaker 1: understand where Reggie's coming from, because Dermant givings, because Dermand
Speaker 1: givings his sugar's attorney. Okay, whether his attorney is trying
Speaker 1: to do something, this is all business, am I Right Ready?
Speaker 1: All I said was wrote, real your attorney in from
Speaker 1: the FBI part. That's how I ended it right that way.
Speaker 1: But after we don't go there. We don't go not
Speaker 1: a million motherfucker's do when when they when they get
Speaker 1: mad at something, that something going on, and you said
Speaker 1: that word, and then the whole thing about it is
Speaker 1: Sugar is in jail. That brother's in jail. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: I said a long time ago, I'm gonna take my
Speaker 1: foot off his neck because he's in him. I have
Speaker 1: no reason to to sympathizer on every platform I've ever
Speaker 1: been little, But you're the main person that said to me,
Speaker 1: back up, because shug me and sug argue like that,
Speaker 1: you and him might stay mad. That's how y'all get down.
Speaker 1: She'll understand you old fatty, what do you call you? Whatever?
Speaker 1: And you'all good. So okay, b'am. My last conversation about
Speaker 1: Sugar was on bomb first. I don't have no reason
Speaker 1: to even go there, and when when when they when
Speaker 1: it was said, my whole thing is cool, man, don't
Speaker 1: do that so you might you might want to do
Speaker 1: the part of children. I'm not taking your side. I'm
Speaker 1: just keeping in one, honey. I'm not taking your side.
Speaker 1: You don't have to like me, and I'm cool with
Speaker 1: that too. But anyway on you Richie, well, he said back,
Speaker 1: and you ain't gonna say you're right. You ain't gonna say,
Speaker 1: my bag, that's what you're grown ass man. Don't wait minute,
Speaker 1: let me clarify then, Okay, on first, all I will say,
Speaker 1: and I know I said that. What all I meant
Speaker 1: was is that snitching? If I have a representative of
Speaker 1: mine saying that I'm going to the FBI, and I
Speaker 1: controlled that representative, and my question to you guys are
Speaker 1: to the panel, was is that is that snitching? And
Speaker 1: that's something I know what they come off that way,
Speaker 1: but that's what I was trying to get. And I said,
Speaker 1: I know what that was going to the FBI. It
Speaker 1: was a person that worked for him, so she informing
Speaker 1: his lawyers to to foul complaints and this and that
Speaker 1: to try to get or even think that he can
Speaker 1: get his company back or recoup any money's from from
Speaker 1: from that business. In the position he end, is he
Speaker 1: wrong for trying to get that money civil? No? Ain't
Speaker 1: that a civil case right there? Not going to the
Speaker 1: f I f I don't do well, you gotta get
Speaker 1: some complained about so they can look into it to
Speaker 1: see if anything was frogging, But bankruptcies are federal. You
Speaker 1: gotta go to federal court to do okay, so if
Speaker 1: the FIRS find it, that's that's something going on in here.
Speaker 1: You might Mr Night, you might be entitled to some
Speaker 1: money back or something. I mean, but you can also
Speaker 1: do that civil. You can't do that in to the fairs.
Speaker 1: To get to that point, well, let me ask this question.
Speaker 1: And then federal federal cases, they ain't dealing with federal
Speaker 1: police officers. They got is it D A f T.
Speaker 1: But that's different, but they got different several types of
Speaker 1: federal homeowner security exactly. You got about five or six
Speaker 1: different branches of federal point. And then if they found
Speaker 1: somebody froms and then like as young lady you said,
Speaker 1: they got the million dollars and she owe anything, they
Speaker 1: would be coming after her. Right Lydia Harris will do
Speaker 1: with his wife, so they will be going after her,
Speaker 1: both of them together. He did sign something. But did
Speaker 1: she get the money after the divorce, because you said
Speaker 1: he divorced her the next day, did she already get
Speaker 1: that head once she learned about he got the money order.
Speaker 1: It could have been that she was going to promise
Speaker 1: the millions. Divorced her first. So he divorced her because
Speaker 1: he was mad. He was like, bitch, you sell him
Speaker 1: what for how much? No, you gotta look at the
Speaker 1: ship he was going through with her anyway. Look how
Speaker 1: long they was together, and how long you've been in jail.
Speaker 1: Why she's out collecting. He was letting her something at
Speaker 1: that point until she funked up and hundred a hundred
Speaker 1: seven million dollars jument for one million dollars. This can
Speaker 1: go up there than that. Because you had, you had
Speaker 1: other people talking to should for him, you had, you
Speaker 1: had her well, Sugar was yeah, when she was paying
Speaker 1: her bill, remember that now we are you're talking about
Speaker 1: what you talking about the early nineties. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when when when, I mean when they
Speaker 1: started cracking. They're doing studio she su ship, she su ship.
Speaker 1: We went the Windy Williams show and she said, yeah,
Speaker 1: the homies was up there doing this and doing this
Speaker 1: to it in the studio. And she sued behind that,
Speaker 1: and she brought that up and in that in that settlement,
Speaker 1: and she sued him for making that statement on Windy Willms. Well,
Speaker 1: this this kind of ties into a question I want
Speaker 1: to ask from one of our listeners just came in
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Deuce Deuced Bell on Twitter asks does the
Speaker 1: fruit from the poisonous tree defense apply in civil cases?
Speaker 1: If so, should Knight might have action at getting the
Speaker 1: lawsuit overturned to her YO bankruptcy case. He might be
Speaker 1: able to get the label back. And I guess that's
Speaker 1: where sugars motivation comes from. Not because he's trying to
Speaker 1: rat out Harrio Here's motivation. It's coming strictly from trying
Speaker 1: to sue some attorneys for some legal fees for some moment.
Speaker 1: I think for some prectice, he's old practice. If they're
Speaker 1: gonna be his own turn, his own bank roacy attorneys
Speaker 1: and the receivers and all of that. I think him
Speaker 1: in probably him and Lydia working together to try to
Speaker 1: get the money might be with her your blessings, Well,
Speaker 1: he's definitely old money. Since it's already I need you
Speaker 1: to say this because you know, because I've been reading
Speaker 1: the comments and everybody Harrio's out. I know he's in
Speaker 1: a halfway house in San Antonio. Harrio's out. Would you
Speaker 1: please tell people where here? Sendn't that you're right? Rag
Speaker 1: Harry Oh is not out. I actually went to San Antonio, Texas.
Speaker 1: Was that about a month ago when he was supposed
Speaker 1: to be released. I was supposed to be the first
Speaker 1: person to greet him with a camera and have a
Speaker 1: conversation with him, and it didn't happen. But the halfway
Speaker 1: house is set up, the nonprofit that's working with Harry.
Speaker 1: I was already in place, and apparently they're just waiting.
Speaker 1: And they told me they're waiting to the point where
Speaker 1: the call can come tomorrow. No one knows he can
Speaker 1: come home tomorrow or next month. They're gonna make you
Speaker 1: wait anyway. Yeah, yeah, that's the original release date. It
Speaker 1: worked out what they were gonna let him out because
Speaker 1: he already did like twenty something years in the state.
Speaker 1: He shot somebody and had him right in the car,
Speaker 1: shot his cousin. He shot his cousin and got card
Speaker 1: with him in the car with that was what case.
Speaker 1: So it's it's two different. So he did, he did
Speaker 1: all his time on the state case, and then the
Speaker 1: Feds grabbed him to do I guess another They want
Speaker 1: him to do another twelve or thirteen or fourteen years,
Speaker 1: but shoot, forty years, don't here here, he's a cool,
Speaker 1: laid back dude. I never met him, know him, but
Speaker 1: a lot of people that I know, um on the streets,
Speaker 1: artists and all that he looked out for. And when
Speaker 1: he does get released, we're not gonna know right away.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna make a big announcement, so he might
Speaker 1: have already been released yesterday for all we know. Um.
Speaker 1: I know I'll get the calls. I'll get the call
Speaker 1: within um, within a couple of days or maybe a weekend,
Speaker 1: because he doesn't people hope again. Have you got the
Speaker 1: call yet? No, I haven't got the call, ye, but
Speaker 1: I will be getting the call when he comes home.
Speaker 1: And I will be flying out to San Antonio probably
Speaker 1: a week or two after he gets released. That dudes
Speaker 1: to go get it for real though, No, Mayeah, he
Speaker 1: helped this Zell get get get his career off the
Speaker 1: the amount he say, little Ja, we'll rap a lout
Speaker 1: records and and he say show I always I never
Speaker 1: said that he didn't help show I just say he
Speaker 1: facilitated to. But you said he did not put any
Speaker 1: money money It was Pat johnson job, but he facilitated it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that shook knew Pat Johnson or anything like that.
Speaker 1: He made a call to him boy and said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know where that story comes from, because all
Speaker 1: the guns and everything came from after the b H
Speaker 1: and uh, they was on it and and you know
Speaker 1: this is something. It's like bam, so we knew it
Speaker 1: was something. All the phone calls her. You used to
Speaker 1: call the office when the first started cranking, and he
Speaker 1: used to he was calling all that, I'm the facility
Speaker 1: and I had my niggas for no money for this.
Speaker 1: These are my dudes to put up this money. And
Speaker 1: isn't that the reason why the death Row signed o
Speaker 1: FTV because they were from out the Nickersons and that
Speaker 1: was like a favorite to Harry Off. Now I don't
Speaker 1: know how that happened, but then Bounty was the manager
Speaker 1: of the death Later they came years to do their
Speaker 1: little rat and all of that. Y'all. Y'all research all
Speaker 1: of that little rat, little little rat rat money on
Speaker 1: the rat, money on the rat. Yeah, that's what all.
Speaker 1: I didn't even want to what you didn't don't his name, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying all of that comes with the HAREO
Speaker 1: and uh, the LTV situation and all of that. Let's
Speaker 1: research that people. All right, Uh, let's move on. O J.
Speaker 1: Simpson just hit nine hundred and sixteen thousand followers on Twitter.
Speaker 1: It is kind of moving slow. I thought he would
Speaker 1: have been at a million already, but he's getting like
Speaker 1: a couple of thousand a week, three thousand a week,
Speaker 1: um after just like jumping all the way to like
Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand and just like a couple of months.
Speaker 1: What's the big You know what he's talking about now
Speaker 1: every day? It's, um, fantasy football. I think he's into gambling.
Speaker 1: I think that's his little hustle man. It's all about gambling.
Speaker 1: It's all about fantasy football. Who are the best players?
Speaker 1: If it's legal? He cool anything that ain't legal. He
Speaker 1: needed to sit down. Let's keeping this occupied about fantasy football.
Speaker 1: But nigs ain't getting too many breaks and talking about
Speaker 1: fancy football or not. That's what I'm leg Yeah, if not,
Speaker 1: If if I would have, I would have did it.
Speaker 1: Come on. Now that's his hustle right now, that fantasy football.
Speaker 1: And you can make some good money in that in
Speaker 1: that game, depending on the pool a casino or websites
Speaker 1: paying him to the advertiser. And I see O J
Speaker 1: and a guy, damn mobile home traveling, just going to
Speaker 1: just travel. I don't think you'll leave the state. They
Speaker 1: can't leave Neda right now. They try to get even Florida.
Speaker 1: Florida was like hell to the know, that's three years,
Speaker 1: two years more in probation. Well he was initially a
Speaker 1: sentenced to thirty three years. Remember what he did. He
Speaker 1: did say twenty three year probation. Yeah, so he only
Speaker 1: had maybe a year or two year till Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: he's still in Nevada. I don't think he wants to
Speaker 1: stay there. Well, he've in Florida denied. That was the
Speaker 1: big thing that he just knew he was going home
Speaker 1: to the south of Florida be in morning. They said,
Speaker 1: he's gotta wait till he's done parole before you go
Speaker 1: to Florida. If you're trying to get a role to Florida,
Speaker 1: how you been out Now by the year he just coming,
Speaker 1: it's coming up. Yeah, he'll be able to go home
Speaker 1: and I don't think quite a year. All right, Well, Reggie,
Speaker 1: I need you to clear up this story about ray
Speaker 1: J getting Sugar Knights and death Row story rights to
Speaker 1: do a movie. I guess yeah, for those of you
Speaker 1: all haven't heard it on the big website tilm z's
Speaker 1: and something like that. You can go over the bomb
Speaker 1: first and you can hear the audio from Shugar. I
Speaker 1: wish I would have brought it in and played it here. Um,
Speaker 1: I thought it went viral by now and then most
Speaker 1: people knew about it. But on the audio, she'll call
Speaker 1: from prison and I broke the story Tims bit off
Speaker 1: of me. Well, bomb first broke it. But anyway, Um,
Speaker 1: what's the accurate uh statement? According the show? But I
Speaker 1: know my boy shall so he might have promised ray
Speaker 1: J that. But what his version this on record audio
Speaker 1: is that reg has rights to anything musically. He has
Speaker 1: what he lost all the bankruptcy. But he said that
Speaker 1: there's some new music that's coming out and he got
Speaker 1: some hidden Tupac songs and all of that that REJ
Speaker 1: gonna be putting out. And that's inaccurate their status through
Speaker 1: the ship out of whoever. He has no music. He
Speaker 1: lost everything in the bankrupt had some ships some really,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we don't know. If he does, he
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to use it. He can't use anything
Speaker 1: that doesn't that's that's been discharged from bankruptcy and now
Speaker 1: you did what committed bankruptcy from bankruptcy is serious? Do
Speaker 1: teach me something, brother. I don't know unless they were
Speaker 1: songs that were acquired outside of the death row or later,
Speaker 1: but we all know Tupacs been dead since sothing. Uh
Speaker 1: he filed for bankruptcy or maybe Pop brought some songs
Speaker 1: with him that were recorded before he sign But that's
Speaker 1: not their fro songs. That's interscope and the mom's amorus.
Speaker 1: Uh have those rights? Amru, I'm sorry, but mom's just
Speaker 1: gone now. So who their estate, his sister's and some
Speaker 1: family members is on Gloria and and and dye son
Speaker 1: and by his sister and it's a guy named Tom
Speaker 1: Wally that runs the estate for the trustee for the
Speaker 1: for for that. But anyway, so that's the music. That's
Speaker 1: what ray J has controller which is nothing. It's nothing,
Speaker 1: there's nothing. Uh, then you have um, Nick Cannon said.
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon is a hell of a writer. Which if
Speaker 1: anybody know about writing a book, there's agents, and you
Speaker 1: have to have the agents to go and get their
Speaker 1: writers to write a book before any of the big
Speaker 1: five publishers will do anything with you. He said, Nick
Speaker 1: Cannon gonna write a book because Nick Crannon is a
Speaker 1: great writer. He's a very educated young land though you
Speaker 1: don't think it's possible. Independent book, but not with one
Speaker 1: of the big majors. But anything with should name and
Speaker 1: death row on it makes an independent. Don't it go
Speaker 1: to the major? You can go to one of the
Speaker 1: major publishers and um yet, but yeah, you can go
Speaker 1: through an independent. But but he's not gonna do anything
Speaker 1: independent writer. You're paying for a writer. You're paying the money.
Speaker 1: You're putting up the money. We're talking about rich catch
Speaker 1: Steap that can do ship like this, he would do anyway.
Speaker 1: If he want to do that way, then Nick Cannon
Speaker 1: can do that. But trust me, he talking about that's
Speaker 1: why they putting it out. Sound rich. They want to
Speaker 1: put out go through one of the big fires. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to educate how the book game goes. You
Speaker 1: don't want to listen or don't want too. Master Cody
Speaker 1: wrote a book inside the Prison and got Penguin to
Speaker 1: sign a deal with him, and he just wrote it
Speaker 1: while he was sitting in the Pelican Battle. Now we
Speaker 1: call him Penguin a major. Penguin is definitely I think
Speaker 1: it falls up under the random house. No, but those
Speaker 1: are independent, so you wouldn't. You don't you don't consider
Speaker 1: random random houses, but not Penguin. Penguin all right, So anyway,
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon write the book whatever hopefully wish the dust uh.
Speaker 1: And then the third part was his girl, toy Land.
Speaker 1: Toy Land is his current um fiance, cool lady, cool chick.
Speaker 1: She's the one that went to uh prison, got caught
Speaker 1: up in some stuff and did it, got a three
Speaker 1: years sentence for him. And at that time she's a
Speaker 1: cool check cool check um. She had a baby body.
Speaker 1: Her sun name is legend Um buy you what's your
Speaker 1: And he's saying that, hey, you know because city sent
Speaker 1: reached out and I was like, hey, ray J contact me.
Speaker 1: You know. He was pretty much letting everybody know. The
Speaker 1: only person that has any rights to sign off for
Speaker 1: any thing else other than those two things that I
Speaker 1: just talked about, it's toy Land. She has my power
Speaker 1: attorney and that's why I will want you to contact
Speaker 1: So she's the only one that's she pretty much right there.
Speaker 1: That's and when you asked me the question like why
Speaker 1: are you talking to toy Land? And Rick, Who's who's
Speaker 1: her quiet that quietly like good friends and brothers and
Speaker 1: you know they called each other brother and sensors and
Speaker 1: even though they're not really brothers. Yeah, but they have
Speaker 1: a good relationship. Um uh, that's the one I was
Speaker 1: talking about. I wasn't dealing to it and talks with
Speaker 1: what that's doing the TV show. Okay, So what's the plan.
Speaker 1: Is it to write a book or to write a
Speaker 1: script of the Death Row history? Actually we can do both. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's cleared up according to the the ship that
Speaker 1: ain't the rights to Nick Can and asked you just
Speaker 1: have a right to write a book. No, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying where sugar is in and that's where we don't
Speaker 1: use our head get onto these I mean, and she
Speaker 1: can actually do a movie he doesn't want Nick Can
Speaker 1: and negotiate a deal for him, which I understand. Okay,
Speaker 1: And you you gotta reaching out, you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: remember you got in reaching out? Who did power? Who
Speaker 1: did the BML things? Hey, come and talk to me
Speaker 1: fifthy talking about Yeah, and my chick. It ain't Nick
Speaker 1: my chicky, however, because that's who I'm loving and well,
Speaker 1: that's who loyal to me on that on that and
Speaker 1: then make him and he says on the audio, for
Speaker 1: those I love ray Jack, I got a lot of
Speaker 1: respectful ray j. That's my little brother. That's like the
Speaker 1: family to me. He got an indoor pool and an
Speaker 1: outdoor pool, remember that rant rays wild, I got eight
Speaker 1: Bentley's in the front. Yeah. And he also said that
Speaker 1: about Nick. So those three people he got a lot
Speaker 1: of respect for can't get the word to him to
Speaker 1: make something happen. He just put the record on it too. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is what the this is the game plan. I
Speaker 1: think Mechanic could write to write the book. I think
Speaker 1: he'd come off. He can write a book. But I'm
Speaker 1: just talking about the distribution part. They don't play that
Speaker 1: they're gonna make a good editors. They even even because
Speaker 1: he's a big he's a celebrity and he's writing about
Speaker 1: somebody everybody wanted to know about the inside scoop on
Speaker 1: Si had to two book deals on and he had
Speaker 1: a third one passed him up. Well he sucked him
Speaker 1: throwing up and ship he got, Well that's a documentary.
Speaker 1: That's different. That's a document He had two book deals
Speaker 1: with a big publisher at one time and never will
Speaker 1: finish the book. Never with me with the writers and
Speaker 1: all of that, and so people you know that world,
Speaker 1: that world talks, that's a small community. Remember the name
Speaker 1: of the publishers that were remember I know they were
Speaker 1: in New York because I was spposed to fly with
Speaker 1: him to go get it. That was when we was
Speaker 1: going through our back and forth. This is like in
Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, two thousand and eleven, and he
Speaker 1: never he had a meeting that was on the table.
Speaker 1: So how did the ray J having the right story
Speaker 1: just get out there? Because almost every it's everywhere, see
Speaker 1: where you get mad. This is what happened. So ray
Speaker 1: J Nick Cannon went up to the president and being
Speaker 1: going up there to see shop, right, ray J went
Speaker 1: up to the president about three or four weeks ago
Speaker 1: to visit shop or the wrong clothes. I couldn't get in.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't let him. Ma, ray J hate Nick Kennon
Speaker 1: with a passion. Why hind Kim Kardashian after the sex
Speaker 1: tape and all of that. Guess who started sucking Kim Kardashian?
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon, I was kind of dealing with ray J.
Speaker 1: I had this company through that entertainment and ray J
Speaker 1: was up under me. I was going with ray J
Speaker 1: tough All Star Weekends. So whatever year that was, that
Speaker 1: was in Vegas. He was in the back seat of
Speaker 1: my car crying because we saw Nick Cannon and Kim
Speaker 1: Kardashi and Ryan around in a white fantol. My point
Speaker 1: is to that ray J never got over that go
Speaker 1: he got over there and and ray J had Whitney
Speaker 1: up in the room at the time. She ain't doing
Speaker 1: it with rich niggas niggas, and he was, Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, sound about right. Whenever All Star Weekend
Speaker 1: was yeah, Vegas, And so there's twelve years, twelve years,
Speaker 1: and so I think when ray J, when ray J
Speaker 1: heard about Nick Cannon going up there and talking on
Speaker 1: Blad and all of that, about all the writs and like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, because ray J looked out big time
Speaker 1: for Shure about when he was in County jail, thank guys,
Speaker 1: before he was. He took care and paid a lot
Speaker 1: of ship bills back then, and she gave him some rights.
Speaker 1: Then he gave him Man White one hundreds and rights
Speaker 1: the right. She was looking out for them when he
Speaker 1: was on the streets too, though, right, But they got
Speaker 1: some paper on him and saying, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: he does, so I know Pat Johnson got some new paperwork.
Speaker 1: All right. You'll always say I'm calling names, but I
Speaker 1: just tried to keep it real. But there's a lot
Speaker 1: of niggas, chick. So three people they got, they got
Speaker 1: deals with ship. He got a lot of people that
Speaker 1: got believe that he got you. She happened in the
Speaker 1: Conte jail. He was paying, you know, pay the lawyers
Speaker 1: and all of that, and and he was trying the
Speaker 1: best he could. But but my point there so Ray
Speaker 1: j didn't have the rights, but he revoked them. But
Speaker 1: when he heard that Nick Cannon yet, he couldn't let
Speaker 1: that ride. But the rights that all he did in
Speaker 1: the last month or two was brought one of those
Speaker 1: scooters over or on scooters and brought it to give
Speaker 1: it to her son. Legend And then they hear this.
Speaker 1: They went crazy that morning when they heard that. Why
Speaker 1: do you think she got on the phone that day
Speaker 1: and put clarification on everything. If you listen to the conversation,
Speaker 1: he's cool, you know, he clarified. He just clarified things.
Speaker 1: But Toy and Rick and all of them, it was
Speaker 1: throwing a monkey wrench into what they had working. If
Speaker 1: m shook Knight was close with ray J during them
Speaker 1: years back in the day, how come he was never
Speaker 1: an artist on death throw. He did a lot of
Speaker 1: recordings with him. He wanted a little bit more, but
Speaker 1: he didn't have no distribution. Shook my not you. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: ray J. Mama Sonya Norwood runs that clan. She runs
Speaker 1: that and he was a little younger than and she
Speaker 1: knew the situation wasn't right. And I think they asked
Speaker 1: for a million dollars and she was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: paying a million dollars for that. And then some things
Speaker 1: came out that I had told him, and I made
Speaker 1: ray J come clean on that went on withou with
Speaker 1: his baby mama's while he was in jail. No baby
Speaker 1: mama while he was in jail, And I think that
Speaker 1: put us all her tastes and shook mouth even though
Speaker 1: he won't speak, was hitting one of the baby mamas.
Speaker 1: Yea man, women is our damn fall. I don't understand
Speaker 1: why another nigga over woman if she opened her motherfucking legs.
Speaker 1: If you ain't raped my woman, then she gave you
Speaker 1: the pussy. Why should a homeboy even be pursuing another
Speaker 1: dude's check. They went. You asked the question, woman should
Speaker 1: be off limits? They were doing recordings, and he did,
Speaker 1: you know what they're doing? The bunty two years old
Speaker 1: were They were working with each other then. But when
Speaker 1: all of that came out, you get murdered in the
Speaker 1: Italian mafia when you mess with another guy's woman automatic
Speaker 1: there's no and hesitation to it. Well vice versa. Here
Speaker 1: we murdered the cat that fucked our woman, or and
Speaker 1: we wind up going to prison. What happens to that woman?
Speaker 1: She's still on the street. She got another man. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: I used to be sitting in the county jail and
Speaker 1: and niggas used to throw the letters out and and
Speaker 1: tan up anything in they sale because the chick does
Speaker 1: sent him a letter with a food stamp and tell
Speaker 1: him don't write me no more. We gotta we gotta
Speaker 1: pay attention man, niggas, niggas will I would kill you
Speaker 1: for messing with my wife if this ain't my wife.
Speaker 1: But even if my wife gave you some pussy, I
Speaker 1: can't be mad at you. You you your proposition, tor,
Speaker 1: She accepted, as long as you ain't raped and beat her.
Speaker 1: Man I can't be mad at you. You're not mad
Speaker 1: that he even propositioned her, not after she didn't gave
Speaker 1: him the pussy. Leave her ass, Leave her ass. That's
Speaker 1: the problem right there. She should have said, know it
Speaker 1: came to me. She's a little woman. Her Lord team
Speaker 1: ain't with me. Her lord cheems with whoever. I agree.
Speaker 1: But also a homeboy shouldn't be proposition and another dude's
Speaker 1: girlfriend a white They wasn't homeboys. Ray j was not
Speaker 1: around death Roll prior to two thou so in the nineties,
Speaker 1: they weren't close. They knew each other. We see each
Speaker 1: other with a little little Brandy's little brother agreed to this.
Speaker 1: She was sucking everybody woman, turning your back to She
Speaker 1: got it in New York to my wear free trip.
Speaker 1: So he shouldn't be mad, and he didn't. He went back.
Speaker 1: He had another baby by the by this person that
Speaker 1: I'm speaking on, and another baby Byron Man. I mean,
Speaker 1: how about the um the woman that has babies by
Speaker 1: two Michael Jackson brothers living together, and see the German Tito,
Speaker 1: Germaine and Randy. Ain't nothing wrong with it, that's that's
Speaker 1: just a little out of She got a baby by
Speaker 1: both of the brothers. She's got babies by two Jackson brothers.
Speaker 1: Was living in the house, the only one come to
Speaker 1: the hood, the only one baby bye brothers. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know your brother got killed. Now I'm with
Speaker 1: and but I had a baby by your brother previously.
Speaker 1: So that's my uncle cousin Willie. But I mean, that's
Speaker 1: just how some like little women. Let's go. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is tied into the whole rage jo. But that's
Speaker 1: the word up though. We need to stop. But it's
Speaker 1: obviously she got over the trip behind it. He moved on,
Speaker 1: and he was mad for a minute. He was okay
Speaker 1: when I'm brother too. When I told him, I said, hey,
Speaker 1: I told Rag, I said, homie, you better go, and uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell me because you know, I know that
Speaker 1: ain't no different from timmy living. I mean that the
Speaker 1: situation nigga laying up and then now you got your
Speaker 1: partner sucking it. Yeah, come on, man, that's how motherfucker's
Speaker 1: getting down. That baby. She was a baby mama. I
Speaker 1: don't care baby mama, don't mean ship. It's just another
Speaker 1: piece of cool. And then I saw, man, it was
Speaker 1: so funny. Then I saw a picture because I knew
Speaker 1: the other nigga, this football player from San Diego, and
Speaker 1: they shot Mary and she was sucking. And then I've
Speaker 1: seen a picture of a sugar and him or urban flavors.
Speaker 1: Last show hugged up talking ship with your marry and
Speaker 1: I was like, if you only knew this one, that's weird. Well,
Speaker 1: but if she chose me, then why should you be mad?
Speaker 1: Is there a timeline on this death Row Night project?
Speaker 1: In terms of the book? Ain't that happening? He just
Speaker 1: do it out? Ain't that happening? Day? I know this happened?
Speaker 1: Is this TV deal that's in the works? Um? And yeah,
Speaker 1: what's going to do? He said, write a book? Y'all
Speaker 1: say you can do it. I just for all you
Speaker 1: people that know about the writing book game and the publishers,
Speaker 1: please uh please write in the comments so people won't say, oh,
Speaker 1: you just hate you need it's a procedure with this book,
Speaker 1: right and stuff? But what has a lot of money? Agree?
Speaker 1: And with a lot of money you can get damn
Speaker 1: there anything done or anything is possible. You have a
Speaker 1: name should Night there's worth money. He didn't burned about
Speaker 1: two or three different major publishers and they don't want
Speaker 1: to touch it. Greg Katies a boy, Greg Katies, he
Speaker 1: know he was trying to shop a book for sure.
Speaker 1: Let me give it a shout out to Greg. Happy
Speaker 1: anniversary you in in Donna. I hope you're having fun.
Speaker 1: The ones that the guy that wrote his book who
Speaker 1: has an agent, Cathy Scott, I don't know nothing. I'm
Speaker 1: just reporter. She wrote the books. She said, there's no
Speaker 1: interests in two two thousand seventeen, two thousand eighteen and
Speaker 1: any books on show. And she said, Reggie, there's a
Speaker 1: little interest on you, but that is just be if
Speaker 1: you willing to say, setting the record straight of all
Speaker 1: of the false things out there. And so that's what's
Speaker 1: in the works a little bit. But at that time
Speaker 1: they said it was no interest. Now maybe they'd be
Speaker 1: willing to work with him now because you have somebody
Speaker 1: like Nick what you know, that's that's vouching for him
Speaker 1: and he's in custody. Because I remember a lot of
Speaker 1: executives turned down, was like, I don't need this in
Speaker 1: my life. I don't want no Defer album because I
Speaker 1: don't need him coming up to my harassing my staff
Speaker 1: and this and this is money. Yeah, now, you guys,
Speaker 1: possible to tell a death row story without Reggie Wright
Speaker 1: and James McDonald being depicted him. Oh yeah, people, I
Speaker 1: love to hear that Blue Side. The book has got
Speaker 1: to include right way security right. There's no way you
Speaker 1: can you only if you go to the part of
Speaker 1: ninety six on how can you not talk about that period?
Speaker 1: And of course you're you're coming in there with your
Speaker 1: brother and helping get it started and get I think
Speaker 1: the Blues Side can tell you. I think the little
Speaker 1: the people that's in it only cares about dre Snoop
Speaker 1: Dog Pound they dog and all of that. And Lt.
Speaker 1: Preyoy did it on pop he lift us all out,
Speaker 1: he dis he not us. He died the rest side
Speaker 1: will he dissed me, he said one time with you
Speaker 1: over here over here hanging out with them. Oh, he
Speaker 1: dissed me in there too. Who was that tray when
Speaker 1: he had when he beat up one of the homies
Speaker 1: in the movie. You don't remember saying that. You talked
Speaker 1: about that before. I don't even want to dis catch
Speaker 1: that brother. Oh, I'm just staying that it could be done.
Speaker 1: They did it. Yeah, I mean, you could tell the
Speaker 1: story anyway you want, But would it be a complete
Speaker 1: story pros. But now we said, like, if Nick Cannon
Speaker 1: is writing this book, should he sit down with you
Speaker 1: for a few hours, Reggie, should he sit down with
Speaker 1: you for a few hours. People said, we got to
Speaker 1: have it involved, no matter what if he won't hiven
Speaker 1: involved or not. And he was like, oh cool, But
Speaker 1: that's when he's trying to get that check to he
Speaker 1: also in negotiations, that's all about money for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all motherfucker's got to understand that man, especially in
Speaker 1: his position now, shiit, I need money. You got catched
Speaker 1: in the penitentiary, taking care of their families. This is
Speaker 1: all he's trying to do. I don't get his hustling
Speaker 1: ground on the don't stop. You know, I've been saying
Speaker 1: on bout first that right now he's still not ready.
Speaker 1: I told, I said, I tell people already. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even go up there trying to talk to him about
Speaker 1: any deals until about three or four years of him
Speaker 1: sitting down there and there, and now he got situated
Speaker 1: in there completely no really income coming in, and then
Speaker 1: he'd taken serious right now and he canna still be
Speaker 1: playing with people, in my opinion, like he did tell
Speaker 1: Rey Gie, I bet you Raygiel was interview and reg
Speaker 1: right now. I just got off the phone with him.
Speaker 1: He told me I got lifetime rights and all of that,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna do that the first two or three
Speaker 1: years of that, but he eventually gonna get serious when
Speaker 1: he starts seeing ship. Ship ain't working. By the time
Speaker 1: January comes around, with just just a few months away,
Speaker 1: that'll be five years of incarceration. Because he was I'm
Speaker 1: talking about that pin it. Reality sits in in that
Speaker 1: p and I think like, okay, this is my home
Speaker 1: for any kunt of jail. I think you'd be thinking
Speaker 1: he still got a shot. No, no, the only thing.
Speaker 1: The only shot you gotta is appeal, which I know
Speaker 1: it's appealed. He appealed it were right, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: see Amber. I just seen some ship with she appealing
Speaker 1: in the first man the judge when he gave me
Speaker 1: eighteen months, his clerk the next thing he did will say, oh,
Speaker 1: here's the paper were the follow uppeal. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that had that paperwork. I following the appeal, you be
Speaker 1: out before here. And I was like, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: thinking about to get three years like that. Well, this
Speaker 1: kind of um goes into the next topic I want
Speaker 1: to talk about. And you mentioned this last week, James,
Speaker 1: the stuff that you got you to do at fern
Speaker 1: Hill Records, and that's really the predecessor of death row records,
Speaker 1: right exactly. And I guess you can't really tell a
Speaker 1: death row story without I mean, in my view, I
Speaker 1: like the whole history something with that guy. Follow the
Speaker 1: entertainment too. Let's not leave that out. Um, you gotta go.
Speaker 1: You ever heard of gall entertainment? You gotta talk about
Speaker 1: know that must be Michael Harris because he was the
Speaker 1: guy Father. That was his nickname. Okay, but that isn't
Speaker 1: what we was doing, That's my point. So so fern Hill,
Speaker 1: Fernhill Records is the predecessor of the death row. Where
Speaker 1: does guy Father fit into this? Well, I always have
Speaker 1: said the Harry oh scenario where he broke it a deal.
Speaker 1: His attorney, David Kenner was over there and and he,
Speaker 1: you know, put everybody together, Pat David Kanner is the
Speaker 1: other guy who nobody knows about, and and and and
Speaker 1: and bring the money to the table. But James go
Speaker 1: away back further than that with this guy named Mike Klein,
Speaker 1: Tom Klon and I'll let Jay talk about that. Tom Crown,
Speaker 1: he was a rich cat out in Beverly Hills. Sugar
Speaker 1: cooked up with him, and she was already knew that
Speaker 1: that time. Klein was gonna be a big access to
Speaker 1: where we was trying to go. When she put death
Speaker 1: Row on the table, We're gonna start a label death Row.
Speaker 1: He already had and was mentioning those those keys at
Speaker 1: those guys when he did that. Now Thomas Klein got
Speaker 1: to get on board. Now, David Carol DLC No, David
Speaker 1: Kenny didn't come. David Kenneth came when she signed the
Speaker 1: papers when we first had the first party, That's when
Speaker 1: David Kenny. We all were tuxed those that when they
Speaker 1: did that, that's when David came. This is when Harry
Speaker 1: O came. Was mentioned that night in them. Thanks to
Speaker 1: harry O, all the big ups and all of that.
Speaker 1: So now we know who the players is. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we're still doing Fernhel and this
Speaker 1: and that why Sig gets constructing death Row, putting it together.
Speaker 1: So it was it was. It was a big thing
Speaker 1: because he got money from everybody. And I'm sitting back watching,
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, when is our money finishing me? He
Speaker 1: got this from DFC, got this from DRE. He got
Speaker 1: this from this motherfucker. Got this from this motherfucker. Thomas
Speaker 1: Kleine gave a million dollars chocolate. Chacola did his money
Speaker 1: came through chocolate because he went through vanilla, ice and ice.
Speaker 1: But his song just the rights for this, so Jacolin
Speaker 1: only did, yeah, that's my song. So when Chocolate didn't
Speaker 1: get to check, she'll got to check. When she'll cast
Speaker 1: to check, go your money. But but Chocolate was good.
Speaker 1: He went and bought the Mercedes and he had no
Speaker 1: money doing this thing. But at fernand rickors Man we
Speaker 1: was doing everything was just the late eighties, yeah, eight
Speaker 1: eight eighty nine, So this is right before Michael Harris
Speaker 1: went to jail. When did he go to jail? I
Speaker 1: think nine, that's the that's the word. Well he was
Speaker 1: staying he was in jail. When when what about when
Speaker 1: Fernhill was first starting, he wouldn't deal it with We
Speaker 1: didn't know about him. When it was Fernhel Records. We
Speaker 1: was rocking fern here like it was registered to Godfather Entertainment.
Speaker 1: Remember the Future Peak, the one y'all see with Don
Speaker 1: mood setting in the car that's out there, that that
Speaker 1: that five of the Mercedes that I took that that
Speaker 1: car and registerd from Godfather Entertainment to uh A person
Speaker 1: that named that it was black. He used to be black.
Speaker 1: And now Godfather was Michael Harris this thing and I
Speaker 1: think he produced that play Checkmates with Denzel under Godfather Entertainment.
Speaker 1: Now that was either eighty seven, that might have been
Speaker 1: eighty seven when that play came out. Well, when I
Speaker 1: got out of prison in eight, so I knew Fernheel Records.
Speaker 1: And then when Death Road came, we had Dre, we
Speaker 1: had DLC there, we had mister l there, we had
Speaker 1: my fuckings hanging out at that time. So now all
Speaker 1: these different players. It might be a little bit later,
Speaker 1: like eighty nine. I think, yeah, it was. It was.
Speaker 1: It was run about ninety because we was living in
Speaker 1: the house over here with the pool and with Laguna.
Speaker 1: Because most people don't know, sug mainly was starting off
Speaker 1: for DC. That's who he was really starting the record
Speaker 1: company for dal No DLC was find of Sugar was
Speaker 1: like like this, so we thought and and once he
Speaker 1: got what what she got? What he wanted. Sugg really
Speaker 1: would put you on the side, on the back burner.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be around, but you ain't gonna be talking
Speaker 1: from the when he became talking like Donald Duck and
Speaker 1: I had the car accident after it was only about
Speaker 1: the money now because he couldn't wrap no more. He
Speaker 1: couldn't wrap no more. So he was like say, a
Speaker 1: silent partner, doc doc DFC was dotner doc. I had
Speaker 1: the lawsuit. That's why I purchased the building. And then
Speaker 1: Dock and Dre were like cool and and that would
Speaker 1: you see them came I mean Dre them came to
Speaker 1: death broch Uh DNC was there, So it just all
Speaker 1: came together. Now she got the money to go bam
Speaker 1: and and and do what he wanted to do. So
Speaker 1: you gotta cover the history of fron Hill records to
Speaker 1: tell that death Row story. Well, if you're going to
Speaker 1: the beginning of Shill, the beginning of shild was um
Speaker 1: then of wait minute, super fast. Schig was a regular
Speaker 1: ass cat, just like the rest of us. No money.
Speaker 1: He was mainly in in Vegas hustling, doing him thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And then he got into
Speaker 1: the is he got this vision. Now he's working with
Speaker 1: Big West. Yeah, a big capital. So when when we
Speaker 1: got with West and going out of town for the
Speaker 1: bud Wier Superfest and all of this ship, Now Shook
Speaker 1: is really dially daling in with all the major artists,
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown, Kumo, d um um uh what's his name,
Speaker 1: and the heavy level have all of you dealing with
Speaker 1: hammer Hammer and fighting and arguing with Michael Edition, all
Speaker 1: of them people. So now that he now he got that,
Speaker 1: Now he shook choo very uh strategic. Now the check
Speaker 1: the play Checkmates came out in April of with Denzel
Speaker 1: produced by Godfather Entertainment, Michael Sharon doing nothing maybe dealing
Speaker 1: with them, but we was doing he didn't known. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we was doing security. I don't even know how he
Speaker 1: met Michael Harris, to be honest, I don't even know
Speaker 1: how that David Kinner, the whole man was getting into
Speaker 1: with a lot of people. I don't know when he
Speaker 1: mentioned Harryo we met David Kinner. David Kinner was on
Speaker 1: the stage. We should when Dre dropped that mlb W
Speaker 1: he said, mom, listen to this, and Dre was putting
Speaker 1: the mob in his song What's The first one he
Speaker 1: did was the first one that they did. Something we
Speaker 1: missed put the hood in it, so he had it cracking.
Speaker 1: He had it crack. But he started off just straight nothing.
Speaker 1: And how he got that that Decover soundtrack song on there,
Speaker 1: He had Snoop wrap it over the phone to the
Speaker 1: executives and he told him that the song was already
Speaker 1: done and hadn't even been done yet. She got stories,
Speaker 1: got some stories if he'll sit down, and but he'll
Speaker 1: make everybody be faggots and table dancers and all of that.
Speaker 1: But if he sat down and really tell the story
Speaker 1: the way the story could be, and then they have
Speaker 1: a best selling book documentary. And Nigga couldn't keep up
Speaker 1: with man. She if she slept on the plane. It
Speaker 1: was it was just for a short period of time.
Speaker 1: Niggas would be tired, his motherfucker, and he moved. He moved.
Speaker 1: You can't keep up with him. If you don't keep
Speaker 1: up with him, you won't see him for another two days.
Speaker 1: Like just do that, we got this. You won't find him.
Speaker 1: You're just moving that they would be home and you're
Speaker 1: still in New York. Did Tom Clin go from Fern
Speaker 1: Hill to death? Row Records, Tom Clin stayed away. Time
Speaker 1: Cline sucked up and we we because he was the
Speaker 1: money man at the time, right, But once she got
Speaker 1: him to invest and then time client metal a black
Speaker 1: woman that was using drugs, and she got him hooked
Speaker 1: on drugs, and uh, she started controlling it. She started
Speaker 1: controlling and and then he started working off the because
Speaker 1: he had a insurance company, he had an anxiety card company,
Speaker 1: he had a he had like five companies in one
Speaker 1: and the Infernal records and what happened with that? Dude?
Speaker 1: He got to the point where he didn't want to
Speaker 1: pay none of the women in there. Mind you that
Speaker 1: all the women in there that's working for him, more
Speaker 1: black women, including my auntie, So you ain't ben to
Speaker 1: not pay them. So even though James talking Tom Klins
Speaker 1: with James asked me phone your motherfucker your mocking line,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that at all. Out But now, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was winning, and he was he was well built,
Speaker 1: like he was like why the solide? But he wanted
Speaker 1: to wrestle with Day, right, he wanted to check out
Speaker 1: the security that's securing him. So I gave imagine at that,
Speaker 1: so me and my boy I'll be lying. I just
Speaker 1: making I didn't know was bigger than me. So he
Speaker 1: wanted to do this rattling because he was a wrestling man.
Speaker 1: Tom Cline got flipped up and flipped down, and I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, how you do worry about all that?
Speaker 1: You ain't even to make me look bad? So it
Speaker 1: was it was only cracking and I'm and I'm still strong.
Speaker 1: I mean, just just straight out of prison. So you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna get it like that, man, Tom Klein. I
Speaker 1: had us. I moved on the on Biggie was living there.
Speaker 1: No moved man. Biggie was in laguna and she got
Speaker 1: mad and put us out. When I was he had
Speaker 1: his little chicken h there and the batt and uh,
Speaker 1: he got mad. Ship went bad. But anyway, yeah, Sugar
Speaker 1: is a very very very smart dude. Man. He did
Speaker 1: his name and and that's what caused the downfall of
Speaker 1: of of of namies to sit to the whole death
Speaker 1: row situation. So that Tom Crinklin just like just went downhill.
Speaker 1: After that, he went downhill. Then he went to jail. Wow,
Speaker 1: he went to jail from the hill from my mother,
Speaker 1: and he was so gagster. We went and Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: He wrote a fucking check for a gang of furniture.
Speaker 1: They had him load the furniture on the truck and
Speaker 1: and and called and stopped paying on the motherfucker he
Speaker 1: was with the business. He was cool as fun. Man.
Speaker 1: He was cool as fun. We used to ride in
Speaker 1: in his Rose Rush. He had let the top down
Speaker 1: and we had come to Compton. He want to ride
Speaker 1: to Compton with showboth home. Didn't come back and he
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna get me and me a showboar
Speaker 1: than at nine eleven. Show both to show both and
Speaker 1: only sits to right. And uh, I mean we did
Speaker 1: all kinds of ship for the dude. We went to
Speaker 1: a son school when he was being bullied. We uh
Speaker 1: took dad to to the grocery store and all that
Speaker 1: ship fine, his beautiful wife and kids. Man, black bitch,
Speaker 1: random all fucked him up. Random all. Why why do
Speaker 1: old Jewish man always like black women. It's the liberal
Speaker 1: Jewish man that like black women. They love Yeah, they do,
Speaker 1: because you got you got the conservative Jewish man that
Speaker 1: don't mess with black women at all. But you got
Speaker 1: that liberal Jewish guy. Was he was. He was stuck,
Speaker 1: but I would have got stuck like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: look what you got at home. Did he ever recover
Speaker 1: from that by the time death No, I never heard
Speaker 1: ship talked about it. That's why I know so many stories.
Speaker 1: That's why I know Tom Cliss with James as talk
Speaker 1: about that. But I'm joking. I'm joking. But uh but
Speaker 1: I heard of him, but I never met him. I've
Speaker 1: never met him. He must have been sitting somewhere in
Speaker 1: like success of Death Row, Like man, I was there.
Speaker 1: I used to sit back. I used to sit in
Speaker 1: the office and we used to just bam, look where this.
Speaker 1: Let's not getting mixed up with Mike Klein, who the
Speaker 1: JDL security dude that's out there shooting the documentary right
Speaker 1: now on show. Well, I'd love to find out where
Speaker 1: Tom Klein is at too, because your son, Matt, we
Speaker 1: had apartments and I was on top of Matt was
Speaker 1: on the bottom. And Matt, his son, was real, real cool, nice,
Speaker 1: nice little boy, and you know, our bodyguard, and you know,
Speaker 1: watched around him, you know what I'm saying, went to
Speaker 1: school when he was being bullied the whole nine. So
Speaker 1: they was like pretty much getting close to like family
Speaker 1: because I was kicking with him a lot, and UH
Speaker 1: at the time did what he did with the ladies
Speaker 1: and didn't want to pay them what I did everything
Speaker 1: in the office, the computers, fax machines, I even sold
Speaker 1: the phones. I took everything. I wiped the whole damn
Speaker 1: thing out of Winning Solder to this company, everything, and
Speaker 1: then I paid all the women in there. Two story,
Speaker 1: my auntie tell you. I made sure all of them
Speaker 1: got paid. I think it was like sixty dollars left,
Speaker 1: but all of them got paid, all the women, and
Speaker 1: I think it was like six of them. I took
Speaker 1: everything out of there. I didn't leave nothing, no pencils,
Speaker 1: no nothing. So the whole goddamn thing to this like
Speaker 1: a h office box or some of they bought. The computers,
Speaker 1: the big old copy of machines, all that. I sold
Speaker 1: everything and paid the women everything. I got six times
Speaker 1: dollars for everything. And I paid all of them women.
Speaker 1: I don't care. It didn't matter the only thing and
Speaker 1: they never mattered to me. Money didn't matter me. My
Speaker 1: only thing getting rid of it because I got it
Speaker 1: is in this truck. Fun were he talking about all
Speaker 1: of them women? Is paid and accident women? All of
Speaker 1: them women? If y'all out there listening, said, goddamn right,
Speaker 1: he did it, Monty tell you right now. I had
Speaker 1: my aunties and my uncles and my granddad and them employed,
Speaker 1: and I just had to look out for the women
Speaker 1: funk when he was somebody at the time. So that's
Speaker 1: and I've never seen him since then. My last from
Speaker 1: Hill question is, uh, no artists, no music ever got
Speaker 1: put out on fern Hill. The only one they had
Speaker 1: was black and that's what's chocolate. That's chocolate. But the
Speaker 1: whole jacking of the vanilla ice rights happened under the
Speaker 1: fern Hill banner. Okay, So that's that's the claim to
Speaker 1: fame of fern Hill, that they was able to get
Speaker 1: vanilla ices and he got it good. Yeah she At
Speaker 1: that time, man, those cats were so scared as shild Man.
Speaker 1: They was doing anything. They was moving out the way
Speaker 1: and Shoog come in. When they see Shook, they get
Speaker 1: the funk out the way because they thought they was
Speaker 1: gonna be next, or he's gonna trying to make an
Speaker 1: example out of me. They stayed out of his way.
Speaker 1: So when he got like that, it was nothing that
Speaker 1: should couldn't say to this person or that person. And
Speaker 1: they put their head now. He was good. All right, Uh, Reggie,
Speaker 1: this is your last episode for a while. Oh that's
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room. The elephant in the room
Speaker 1: is uh you your phones don't work in the federal physicals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the pay phones. I don't know if you get I
Speaker 1: got people. I got YouTube people over on bomb first.
Speaker 1: They're gonna make sure I have at least three hundred
Speaker 1: dollars on the books, the buyt I listened to person Russia.
Speaker 1: You had show on the phone man, and this motherfucker
Speaker 1: was talking like, don't work about nothing. I got people
Speaker 1: all over the place. Well, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: the whole idea of being incarcerated for marijuana, which is
Speaker 1: legal in most places. It's probably not in Tennessee. But
Speaker 1: um that your freedom is being taken away because of marijuana,
Speaker 1: and then of course the money associated. It's not about
Speaker 1: the marijuana, is that it was the law. And at
Speaker 1: that time the dude was doing the buggy malone. He
Speaker 1: was too big for his bridges and he got coughked
Speaker 1: not he's doing eight team in rags month. We're good.
Speaker 1: He gonna go and do that nine We're gonna walk
Speaker 1: out of in then he's gonna come home. We're gonna
Speaker 1: start fresh, right, Reggie, Well, the whole thing is, should
Speaker 1: marijuana even be a Schedule one drug in the United States,
Speaker 1: meaning harsh penalties when you get caught selling will under
Speaker 1: the next president Um Obama should have been the one
Speaker 1: to do it, should have he dropped the ball on that.
Speaker 1: But he has some other things on his plates, um
Speaker 1: on his plate. But the next Democrat Um president is
Speaker 1: gonna going to knock it off and categorizing, I believe
Speaker 1: because it wasn't scheduled one. If it wasn't Schedule one drug,
Speaker 1: it was scheduled two or something lower, you might not
Speaker 1: even be looking at any jail time, right, You gotta
Speaker 1: look at it like this. If if this would have
Speaker 1: just stayed in California, he wouldn't have been looking at
Speaker 1: no time. But due to the different states, they have
Speaker 1: different laws. Well, marijuana is a federal law. That being
Speaker 1: a scheduled one is a cedual, a federal designation. You're
Speaker 1: not prosecuted under the state of Tennessee. You're prosecuted by
Speaker 1: the US government for using the postal system and going
Speaker 1: across state lines and for the money transactions that was
Speaker 1: was done for it. Then it was done through banks,
Speaker 1: banker council stuff. Well, the money is inevitable. You sell
Speaker 1: pounds of weeds, you're gonna get thousands of dollars US
Speaker 1: in return. But after how you get it to to
Speaker 1: first basis is your problem. Now if you if you're
Speaker 1: sending that much money back and you sending them through
Speaker 1: the base and ship, that's what makes it against the law.
Speaker 1: It's all type of different crimes. Yeah, So, I mean
Speaker 1: the laws is just fix some people. To me is
Speaker 1: white collared ship and basically you got white collar times.
Speaker 1: They call it wine old time. Yeah win, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm good with mine, my time. I'm ready to go
Speaker 1: do it. I got people like James and a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of people, uh that has looked out and so
Speaker 1: we're gonna They gave me too much time to get
Speaker 1: ship right, and I got the stuff right, and I'm
Speaker 1: ready to go through this time and walking out. How
Speaker 1: are you feeling mentally? You gotta have some sort of
Speaker 1: feelings about walking into a federal institute. Hasn't hit me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: James asked me that earlier. I actually didn't have butterflies yet,
Speaker 1: and I said, now, yes, I don't know what cat
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I'm sure I wanted to get him,
Speaker 1: but it hadn't hit me yet. My first time in prison,
Speaker 1: I had the butterflies, like mother when they called me
Speaker 1: and you go downstairs, And that was my first time.
Speaker 1: You get the butterflies because you're like, damn was snack,
Speaker 1: you know. And I had a lot of time to
Speaker 1: think about it. You gotta remember, I've been fighting this
Speaker 1: case for two and a half years and so, and
Speaker 1: I knew the whole two and a half years. I
Speaker 1: was guilty, and I was going and I was gonna
Speaker 1: do some time. It doesn't matter of when and how much.
Speaker 1: So I didn't have two and a half years to
Speaker 1: digest us. And we like Frank, We're gonna ride to
Speaker 1: you with you know, thinking thing until until I see
Speaker 1: you walking the gates. So I'm gonna pick you up
Speaker 1: at two in the morning, and I'm gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: hit on down the Frisso don't come to my house
Speaker 1: until four in the morning. No, I can't wait that long.
Speaker 1: If I wait the four o'clock in the morning, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be in traffic. You ain't gonna get there in time.
Speaker 1: I ain't getting up there four in the morning. Now,
Speaker 1: I wonder's the difference, because James, when you first went
Speaker 1: to prison, you went directly from the county jail. You
Speaker 1: weren't customed the whole time, whereas Reggie was able to
Speaker 1: bail out and fight this case free. And now you've
Speaker 1: got to turn himself into a friendship man. I wish
Speaker 1: I would have went only did the time because I'll
Speaker 1: be done. Yeah, you have got time served already. You
Speaker 1: would have got you would have got out last year. Actually,
Speaker 1: I would have lost a lot of stuff in the
Speaker 1: process that I didn't lose, and relationships and all types
Speaker 1: of things. So tell me what was so important about
Speaker 1: being free bailed out that you were able to take
Speaker 1: care of where if you would have just stayed in
Speaker 1: custody the whole time and would have messed you up,
Speaker 1: good stuff right with the family, the wife, you know,
Speaker 1: the counts. But you would have got out in two
Speaker 1: what mother probably came on the ship nothing. I'll definitely
Speaker 1: give your time to Yeah, get that pocket that pocket right,
Speaker 1: because if not, you know, I'm I come from where
Speaker 1: cash was taking care of their families out of the
Speaker 1: county jail, had money bags. This goddamn round made out
Speaker 1: of socks and had multiple and they used take cash
Speaker 1: in and Nichole was thinking even more in. But now
Speaker 1: you know everything does through the comments, theories and the
Speaker 1: western unions. You don't even see the cash. It's totally different.
Speaker 1: They said, you know what they called money, and there
Speaker 1: I'm told stamps. That's using from stamps. They trade stamps too.
Speaker 1: It probably is now assuming that Reggie's gonna have the
Speaker 1: same butterflies that you had when you first went to
Speaker 1: state prison, explain that feeling for us if you could
Speaker 1: take me back to uh eight seven eight seven eighty six.
Speaker 1: But I mean just just going to too too a
Speaker 1: different environment to prison. Your first time was like damn,
Speaker 1: I didn't My expectation was totally different. But you are
Speaker 1: in the county for a minute. I was in the
Speaker 1: county for nine months before I went, and the county
Speaker 1: is way more wilder than any prison yards. I've never
Speaker 1: been to the prison yards, so I don't know. So
Speaker 1: going to prison was you know you you they call
Speaker 1: you as if you're being released. Roll it up, so
Speaker 1: you roll it up and then you go downstairs and
Speaker 1: you wait for the black way. So you're sitting in there. Now,
Speaker 1: they don't discriminate. You got bloods and crypts in these tanks,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you know the way
Speaker 1: some of the homies. Now you're thinking, you feeling, oh,
Speaker 1: he's feenna beyond now instead of that walking and walking
Speaker 1: to the line and just being out there and you're
Speaker 1: taking off on niggas. Now you're in a celle. So
Speaker 1: listening to the homeboys tell you what you need to
Speaker 1: do and what you should do if you get into
Speaker 1: this situation, if you they put you on this yard
Speaker 1: and send you in there Aron the mother and damn bam.
Speaker 1: And my whole thing was like that's kind of like
Speaker 1: PC and up or you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I wrote the whole thing out. Funk was said, they're
Speaker 1: putting us in and you know, it was like five
Speaker 1: of us that went down that night to go, you
Speaker 1: know Forchino. We get the Chino. They said, don't go
Speaker 1: to the West yard. This yard is whole cription is.
Speaker 1: But they put you over there. I was in Laguna
Speaker 1: and and it's nine it's nine bloods. Well, actually it
Speaker 1: was more because it was some cats and there was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I mean hauping to do my time and
Speaker 1: get up out of here. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I want to go home. Wait a minute, this is
Speaker 1: just you know, banging on the motherfucking bed, talking about
Speaker 1: bloods through the streets to bed late in the whole
Speaker 1: nine and and bam. Well we had got some solid cats,
Speaker 1: raw dog, and all of these cats would have business.
Speaker 1: And we had some cats from the Jungles that did karate.
Speaker 1: So us the nine was solid, was solid. But when
Speaker 1: everybody started disappearing and you find yourself they say, you're
Speaker 1: only supposed to be on this yard two weeks a
Speaker 1: week and something before they sent you to another prison.
Speaker 1: So you talk about he was in reception at China.
Speaker 1: I was there for a whole month. What was that like?
Speaker 1: That month? And you know, you just gotta keep your
Speaker 1: eyes open and then you you you look up with
Speaker 1: your boy y'all. Just make sure y'all keeping one hunting.
Speaker 1: Did you know anybody there when you got there? They
Speaker 1: were already on the US with you? No, no, no. Uh.
Speaker 1: When I first got there, we was in the in
Speaker 1: the in the room with a bunch of bug bears
Speaker 1: and like the like the gym and got into it
Speaker 1: with this uh main street cat talking ship. So we
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom and let's say, okay, let's look
Speaker 1: it up. And when we get to the bathroom, you
Speaker 1: got this cage over the bathroom and you got this
Speaker 1: guard walking with a l the right. So whatever I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, he didn't want to fight, it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: So me and Rick James say fucking We walked back
Speaker 1: and sit on our bucks and we're chilling and and
Speaker 1: dude is walking by like he would the business or whatever.
Speaker 1: So think if you want to get out and then
Speaker 1: just just get out and be done with it. But like,
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. Showed me and Rick James just chilling.
Speaker 1: So I'm cool. I got one of the homies. I
Speaker 1: gotta bomped the nigger with me, so we're good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're good. So um, after after all of that,
Speaker 1: they called me. Now my instructions. They're telling me, if
Speaker 1: they see you over there, fire on the niggle because
Speaker 1: that's all crips over there. Back then in my twenties,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, this is our purpose, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna get your ass beat, whatever happens happens,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But you who you are,
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't know hiding who I was. But I
Speaker 1: didn't go in there like, oh yeah, I'm the hardiest
Speaker 1: motherfucking blood guy with the hommies I've seen them because
Speaker 1: they was wearing their red hats and and bam, not
Speaker 1: identified identified and went over there to them. We're good.
Speaker 1: So it was cool, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: got on the on the yard crew d crew cutting
Speaker 1: the grass, and ship got with this cat from s
Speaker 1: w P. Now he teaching me how to make shapes
Speaker 1: and ship. I'm watching him and I'm looking like, damn,
Speaker 1: you need one. So he taking the fucking fiberglass and
Speaker 1: melting and ship and bam, make a motherfucking knife. But
Speaker 1: you gotta take the ship and sharpen. It took me
Speaker 1: too long on this thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That then being nervous on trying to you know, hit
Speaker 1: the motherfucker up. My nigger got a locking full of them.
Speaker 1: We don't need this. We took the the fork side
Speaker 1: of the kitchen and put them wrapped it around her
Speaker 1: hand and had to force the part these parts sticking up,
Speaker 1: so when when the fight was on, we had a
Speaker 1: little the little fork like brass knuckles. Yeah, so I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, damn gonna have to be doing all that.
Speaker 1: When he got federal count we'll see Reggie. Reggie is
Speaker 1: not a gang affiliated guy where he gotta go and
Speaker 1: say it's not a chicken. But you gotta identify with
Speaker 1: your people, you know what I'm saying, a lot of
Speaker 1: cats don't. If you don't belong to a click, if
Speaker 1: you just this one cat walk into your by yourself,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have somebody that's gonna come and get at you.
Speaker 1: And when you tell them and they know that you
Speaker 1: by yourself you're buying your food and getting your ship,
Speaker 1: they're gonna take it. I've seen a lot of cats
Speaker 1: get get this ship again, Federal. You don't know what
Speaker 1: you gonna do. I talked about three people. They can
Speaker 1: tell you that, but you get in there and you said,
Speaker 1: who whoo whoo. They're gonna Now he don't need to
Speaker 1: be over there. We're gonna put him over here so
Speaker 1: that ship can change just by just by your fucking jail.
Speaker 1: I see, are you concerned of your law enforcement background?
Speaker 1: From Spider Local on us again? I'm just doing a
Speaker 1: few minutes, four minutes, that's what it is. Are you
Speaker 1: concerned that your prior law enforcement history might have a
Speaker 1: negative impact even on a camp or they don't get
Speaker 1: down like that in federal camps. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: ain't never been there, so we'll see. But one thing
Speaker 1: I know about me already. You gotta do is I
Speaker 1: w boxes not. Please don't tell them motherfucking you only got.
Speaker 1: Don't tell nobody. Don't. I wouldn't discuss that by time,
Speaker 1: because the next motherfucker might got way more than you
Speaker 1: and don't want to see you come on and they
Speaker 1: funk with you. So don't discuss your time, don't discuss,
Speaker 1: don't give, don't give nor take anything from nobody. I
Speaker 1: ain't got no soup, but yet whatever they got in compensary,
Speaker 1: you know none of that ship. You gotta have your
Speaker 1: own ship. That's why you're gonna be good. And you
Speaker 1: don't give nobody ship. If you give it to him,
Speaker 1: you get it to him to let them have it,
Speaker 1: because if you got to go back and get it
Speaker 1: and they tell you no, you ain't got no motherfucking
Speaker 1: choice but to get that soup back. No, by any
Speaker 1: means necessary, or you're gonna have a lot of mother
Speaker 1: fucker's coming at you. You got any plans on taking
Speaker 1: advantage of the time, like writing a book or doing
Speaker 1: something with with this time that you you're forced to to.
Speaker 1: You're confined, but you got you can be productive with
Speaker 1: the time. Any ideas or plans. Nothing to do number
Speaker 1: and side and then and and come back and look
Speaker 1: like the old Reggie and then just do his thing.
Speaker 1: That's all you gotta do. Sure, you can knock out
Speaker 1: a book and several months you gonna be in there.
Speaker 1: Got a short time, man, he got a very short time.
Speaker 1: But there's no distractions. There's a lot of distractions. You
Speaker 1: gotta watch your ass. I mean, if you were in
Speaker 1: the lock upseil by yourself, you're cool at night, you're cool.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm cmc. And we was in dorms, not a
Speaker 1: cool You don't know. We was in the motherfucking dorm
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It wasn't until Corkering. When
Speaker 1: I got to cork Ring. Oh it was relaxing because
Speaker 1: now I'm in the sell by my mother herself, and
Speaker 1: I ain't got to just sleep up in the homies,
Speaker 1: flow up and flow down. Yeah, you gotta do that.
Speaker 1: You have a one man Sell and cor and Corkoran
Speaker 1: the morning man Sell. Wow, well no they had it
Speaker 1: was a two man sail. But did nobody occupy that
Speaker 1: sail but me one fteen but me for my my
Speaker 1: duration of my time left, I proode from Corkor and
Speaker 1: you preferred it that way that I was. It was
Speaker 1: beautiful to just laid back now and I can have
Speaker 1: as sleep because anybody, and any of the hommies know
Speaker 1: you had, like just say, having all you got. It's
Speaker 1: ten of us. You had five niggers up at night
Speaker 1: and you have five niggas down. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And and and we've worked it like that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If not you, you you're laying there
Speaker 1: and you gotta watch everybody because you got the meskus
Speaker 1: and these just the time when they was locks in
Speaker 1: the socks and all this ship shipping there jagging over
Speaker 1: and getting hit with a lock. You're done, uh SMC.
Speaker 1: You gotta worry about your ship and this drinking dick
Speaker 1: gass locker. So yeah, man, you gotta worry about a
Speaker 1: lot of ships. You gotta think about a lot of ship. Well,
Speaker 1: I got the last Reggie right interview that he's done
Speaker 1: that will be posting on Street TV within the next
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and it's gonna be a minute before
Speaker 1: you do another, and hopefully I'll get your first interview
Speaker 1: when you get out too. Uh, we're gonna be there
Speaker 1: to pick him up. As as I stated earlier, We're
Speaker 1: gonna take We're taken him all the way and we're
Speaker 1: gonna feel me walking in that gate the whole nine
Speaker 1: and we're gonna feel me coming out that motherfucker. So
Speaker 1: I mean we end it. Your wheels fall off, dog,
Speaker 1: and you got a short period of time. As soon
Speaker 1: as we had the highway, though, he's gonna have butterflies
Speaker 1: like why he's gonna have to pitch our ship? Damn.
Speaker 1: But final thoughts Reggie before we wrap up this episode
Speaker 1: thirty of the Gangster Chronicles. Yeah, so bam, first gonna
Speaker 1: be uh, like I said, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: said it earlier, They're gonna be posting my local now.
Speaker 1: You can write me and you want to bless me
Speaker 1: with some money on my books. They also extruct you
Speaker 1: how to do that. I gotta be on Thursday you're
Speaker 1: talking around to come home with five thousands, eight dollars
Speaker 1: on your books. Everybody look at that. Now we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna have everyone that's listening to the show gain
Speaker 1: to Chronical. People don't like me, no, it's a mixed bag,
Speaker 1: but everybody who does like the perspective of Reggie Wright.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go to the BOP website and look them up.
Speaker 1: Reggie Wright Jr. There's gonna be a few Reggie Right
Speaker 1: juniors in there. How do they figure out which one is? You? Actually?
Speaker 1: Reginald Reginald Right and the junior will be on there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the juniors definitely are. How about we just asked all
Speaker 1: our Games of Chronicle fans to send Reggie one dollar.
Speaker 1: That's four quarters. That's four quarters a month. Well you paid, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's all good. Now they can do it if
Speaker 1: you just write the letter and then say what's up.
Speaker 1: I don't like you and here's a picture of my system. No,
Speaker 1: they can do it through the Bureau of Prisons website. Right,
Speaker 1: they can submit. So just go feral mm what you
Speaker 1: get in there and get that little number, that little
Speaker 1: card and everybody you know, because John's gonna pull all
Speaker 1: that up and they're gonna do a video about it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna post the bomb first. That's good. That's good,
Speaker 1: all right. So in the next couple of days if
Speaker 1: you have, if you don't go to bomb first, you
Speaker 1: can just look him up on the VP website, Reginald
Speaker 1: Wright Jr. Slide him a little something. He's gonna need it.
Speaker 1: One dollar. Just slide him a little something and I'm
Speaker 1: sure he'll appreciate it, and maybe he'll shout you out
Speaker 1: when he does his first bomb first show when he
Speaker 1: gets out one dollar. And even if you don't put
Speaker 1: no money in there and you're just in the letter,
Speaker 1: will be appreciative if you shot one dollar. If all
Speaker 1: the people that we got that listen to bomb first
Speaker 1: and one dollar Reggie be taking care of and it
Speaker 1: shal make h but no, we got you, We got
Speaker 1: you dug all right. That wraps up episode thirty of
Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles. This is Reggie Wright's last episode until hopefully,
Speaker 1: so make sure you go look him up Reginald Wright Jr.
Speaker 1: And you know where to find me, street TV, Street
Speaker 1: Gangs dot Com. You know where to find James McDonald.
Speaker 1: He's on Facebook. And make sure you find him with
Speaker 1: the with the Red Harley. I don't know, how come
Speaker 1: you don't just put a picture of you on the
Speaker 1: profile pictures? You don't do pictures. You've done all these interviews. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well they can see me on TV how many times
Speaker 1: they want to turn to it? But you don't see
Speaker 1: me out there like that? I don't I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can find McDonald on Facebook with the Red Harley
Speaker 1: and that Instagram B I, G G J thirty six
Speaker 1: and you still got those shirts nine O nine eight
Speaker 1: hundred sixty four zero four, And don't forget to look
Speaker 1: out for our boy Reginald Wright Jr. And uh, he's
Speaker 1: he's turning himself in in a couple of hours and
Speaker 1: hours now. And that concludes episode thirty of The Gangster Chronicles.
Speaker 1: And still we are wait a minute, and I still
Speaker 1: want to say happy anniversary to Greg Kayden and Donna.
Speaker 1: Happy anniversary. They've been together thirty one years and nineteen
Speaker 1: of it is marriage, So happy anniversary. Ree to you guys.
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