1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: How's my driving. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: I'll tell you mom, write this number down one eight 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 2: hundred eat s eight. 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 3: Uh never mind. 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: Ron A Aian radios are just an integral part of 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: the vehicle today. And I'm not saying you can never 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: get an aftermarket radio ever. Again, I'm not saying that. 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it has to be installed correctly, the 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: car Doctor. 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: I get this noise in my grayer end of my truck. 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 3: One guy says it's my rear end. It can't be fixed. 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: Another mechanic says that Juia wheels can be fixed. 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 4: Somebody else does. 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: That's my shock. I want you to get your hands 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: on this bullet and read it, and then make the 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: dealer read it. Clunking noise rear vehicle from leaf Spring Bolts. 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 5: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aian, the 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 5: Car Doctor since nineteen ninety one. This is where car 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 5: owners the world over to learn to for their definitive 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 5: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 5: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: The garage doors are opening, but I am here to 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: take your call at eight five five five six oh 24 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: ninety nine. 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: Hundred and now he. 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 5: Running. 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: Did you ever meet somebody and you know, have a 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: conversation and you knew within five minutes whether or not 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: you were just going to click and get it and 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: be on the same wavelength and not a question of 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: like or dislike. Just you know, all we all see 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: the world a little bit different. Some of us think 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: the sky is azure blue. Some of us thinks that's 34 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: sky blue. Some of them thinks it's pretty blue. You know, 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: there's different shades of blue. There's different shades of right 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: and wrong. There's different shades of my path, your path, 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: and my thought process, your thought process. I guess it's 38 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: difference of opinion, but some of it's silly when it 39 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: comes to cars. And I have an eyewitness to this. 40 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: He saw this happen. He was sitting there in the 41 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: shop when this happened. And he actually can verify that 42 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is the absolute truth. 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: You must be talking about me. 44 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: You were the eyewitness Tom. Tom was in the shop. 45 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Was that Friday? Was that this past Friday? Right, yes, sir, 46 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: And we brought Tom in. Tom needed another oil change 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: his on his escape because you know this is going 48 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: to be the five hundred thousand mile we're gonna put 49 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: this car in the Smithsonian. One day at the way, 50 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: Tom rolls miles and he came down for you know, 51 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: a Friday morning oil change, and we were done doing 52 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: his oil change, and we were having our ten o'clock 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: coffee break, snack break as it were, and Tom came in. 54 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: Another Tom came in to pick up his twenty twelve 55 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: Jeep Brancherokee, and Tommy's Tommy's a nice enough guy. I've 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: known him forever. He's a he's a sort of regular customer. 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: He sometimes wanders away. I'm not sure why. And then 58 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: he comes right back, and you know, it's it's like dating, right, 59 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: you just dah, I'm not interesting, Yeah, okay, and then 60 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: you go see the other guy. Yeah, okay, he's not Okay, 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm back that thing. So we all got done. We 62 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: got done servicing is jeep. We had fixed an exhaust leak. 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what we fixed, but we fixed an 64 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: exhaust leak. Chrysler, I gotta tell you, boy, now, I 65 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: understand why jeep means junk each and every part. Because 66 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: the exhaust clamps on a Jeep, all right, it's not 67 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: a traditional U clamp style clamp. It's a stainless steel 68 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: well it's not standard. It looks stainless, but it's a 69 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: it's a flat stamped steel clamp. I think there's some 70 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: element of stainless in it by the way it looks, 71 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: but it is magnetic, so it's not one hundred percent. 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: And the bolt at the top, which is made out 73 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: of the real cheesiest metal, snaps and so you have 74 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: to but to fix it you have to buy this clamp. 75 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: And this is a seventy five dollars clamp that Jeep sells. 76 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: It's just and you need two of them. So we 77 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: got done patching up Tom's jeep, fixing the exhaust on 78 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: the what's now at eleven year old jeep? Right, I 79 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: keep thinking it's new, it's not. I remember the day 80 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: bought it, and Tommy and I were talking about the 81 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: age of the truck and the jeep, and you know, 82 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: the things that he's done and hasn't done. He turned 83 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: to me and he said, and you know, I still 84 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: have the original battery in the car. And I was floored, 85 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: because sometimes when you wander away, you know, I can't 86 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: keep track. I don't know where you've been. It's not 87 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: like a doctor's office. They don't although I don't know 88 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: how much doctors do it, but they don't relay you know, 89 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: medical records like service records back and forth to say, well, 90 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: when he came to us, this is what we did, 91 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: and this is what we did when he was with us, 92 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: and so on. So a lot of times, in order 93 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: to repair, you're either going to guess or you're going 94 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: to try and do a checklist, which some people just 95 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: don't want to do. They don't see the value in it, 96 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: they don't want to spend the money. And others just 97 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, they let you do what you have to do. 98 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: Tom was telling us, telling us all it was Danny. 99 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: Tom and I were in the room talking to the 100 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: other Tom. And Tom has explained to us he's got 101 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: a twelve year old battery and it works great and 102 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: it's and I said to myself. 103 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 6: Almost fell off my chair when he said that. 104 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. And I said, but you know, five 105 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: six years average life cycle. We want to go the distance. 106 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you know, you're I said, Tom, you're 107 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: the odd ball, You're the one that's you know, they 108 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: just don't go that long. And he said, yeah, but 109 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: that's like my my key problem because he's also got 110 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: a problem with this key. His jeep has that that 111 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: funky plastic key with the remote built in that you know, 112 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: the door lock has to recognize, or the geep has 113 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: to recognize for the door lock mechanism, the key when 114 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: it walks up, so it unlocks the door. And it 115 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: doesn't always work, so he has to fumble and take 116 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: out the manual key unlock it, and then it may 117 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: or may not start, and he has to fumble that. 118 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: And he explained to us his procedure and process. And 119 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: he said, but it always starts. And I said, yeah, 120 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: but a lot of times it sets off the alarm. 121 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: I said, Tom, you've got an unstable battery or an 122 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: older battery. You've got an unstable remote access unlocked system. Yeah, 123 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: but it never fails. It always starts for me. It 124 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: always gets me going, it always and I'm thinking and 125 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking, you know, you ever like when somebody says, 126 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: God never hits me with a lightning bolt, and you're 127 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: looking through the ceiling like where's it coming from? You know, 128 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: like you're just expecting it. You don't stand near chimneys 129 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: and open windows when people say that. And he walks out, 130 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, he left, He paid his Billy walked out. 131 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: All was good, and we're sitting there munching on our bagels, 132 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: and it was between the three of us there was 133 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: that collective wow, right Tom, was that collective wow energy 134 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: was in the room, like we just couldn't believe what 135 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: we had just. 136 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 6: Heard, oh exactly, and then and then and then then 137 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 6: he proceeds to go out to the car and he 138 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 6: goes to start the car, and all of a sudden, 139 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 6: you hear his alarm going off, the horns honking, the 140 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 6: lights are flashing, and I said, wait, because if his 141 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 6: process works, he should be able to turn it off 142 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 6: within thirty seconds. And we sat there quietly, munching our bagels, 143 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 6: and it just and a minute went by, and two 144 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 6: minutes went by, and two and a half minutes went by, 145 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 6: and we looked out the window and all he could do, 146 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 6: all poor Tom could do. He's looking at his key 147 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 6: and he's trying to figure out what to do and 148 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 6: why it's happening, which is replicant of the conversation we 149 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 6: had not three minutes prior. Danny, would you go, please 150 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 6: rescue Tom. So Danny walks out, and you know, Danny 151 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 6: knows the trick. We've shown him. 152 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: Danny knows the trick. It's you pop out the start button, 153 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: you put it in the lock cylinder that's there in 154 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: the in the in the dashboard, and it turned off 155 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: the alarm. And then he didn't come back in, which 156 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: is the best part. He didn't come back in to say, Okay, 157 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: I want to get this diagnosed and repaired. You know, 158 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: when I see cars stuck on the side of the road, 159 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for people, and I still do. I wonder, 160 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: what's you know? And I will stop from time to 161 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: time if I think there's something I can do, if 162 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: they're in a dangerous situation, if they're alone, you know, 163 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: wait till help arise, make sure they can get help that. 164 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: But you know, a lot of times now lately, I wonder, 165 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: are they creating their own problem? Tom's creating his problem. 166 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: He's not ready. It's it's the vehicle is not set 167 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: to go at the drop of a hat. And I 168 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: think vehicles have to be ready to go at the 169 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: drop of a hat, because you never want an emergency's 170 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: gonna come up. Hence, hence the definition of emergency, something 171 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: unexpected of gigantic proportions. It's gonna have some sort of 172 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: an impact on you and the surrounding neighborhood. You know, 173 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: the part that really sort of floors me. And I didn't. 174 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I told my Tom this, but maybe 175 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: I did the other time with the jeep. He's a 176 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: volunteer fireman, and I just wonder, you know, if the 177 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: alarm goes off at three in the morning, will his 178 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: car start? Will he get there? What's the reliability factor? 179 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 6: You know, I'd like to have a picture of all 180 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 6: three of our faces, you, me and Danny when that 181 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 6: thing was going off, because that's when you mentioned he 182 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 6: was a fireman. 183 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 5: You know. 184 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: One of the things I've learned, and I take this 185 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: and I mean this very very seriously. You know, sometimes 186 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: I get up on stick and I kid with you guys, 187 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: but you know, the road is a very unforgiving place, 188 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: and emergencies and accidents they have no timeline, they have 189 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: no guidelines. They happen when they want to happen. The 190 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: problems come up when they want to come up. There's 191 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: no way to predict it, and you've got to be prepared, 192 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: you know. Listen, I was a boy scout for four 193 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: years I never got pasted the rank of tenderfoot. That's 194 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: a whole nother story for another day, because I was 195 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: too busy working on the Scoutmaster's car to tell you 196 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: the truth. But you know, at the age of fourteen, 197 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: but you know, you got to be prepared. You got 198 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: to be ready. And I encourage all of you as 199 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: we kick off this hour of the Car Doctor welcome. 200 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: By the way, don't be like Tom. You know, batteries 201 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: have a lifespan. Key fobs, if they're broken, there's a 202 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: reliability factor and it's not going to get any cheaper 203 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: as time goes by. And at the best it's going 204 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: to is break down in front of a repair shop. 205 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: The worst it's going to break down at two o'clock 206 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: in the morning in the middle of nowhere. And you know, 207 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: either one's not a good scenario because it's going to 208 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: interrupt your day. It just depends to what degree. And 209 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: you know how bad you want to be inconvenient, So 210 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: be a good scout, be prepared. Eight five five five 211 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. I'm running ating of 212 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. I'll be right back after this. Don't 213 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: go away. I don't see. 214 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 6: A vehicle not taking you where you want to go, Well, 215 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 6: call Ron, He's the expert at making your vehicle take 216 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 6: you where you need it eight. 217 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: Five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 218 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 6: And now back to Ron. 219 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: Hey, let's go out to John and Elco, Nevada. John. 220 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, Sir, how can I help? 221 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 7: Yeah? I have a two thousand and fourteenth Dodge Dark 222 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 7: zero Okay, it's got to one point four. Uh, if 223 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 7: you'll inject, I'm multi injecting with turbo. And and uh, 224 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 7: what started it all is I replaced cabin filter and 225 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 7: after he placed it, I drove about two miles. Then 226 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 7: it went into status mode on me. Limpin and front 227 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 7: of mine came over and put a code reader on it, 228 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 7: and he came up with about six codes on it. 229 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: Okay. So to do to do the cabin filter on 230 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: that vehicle? Is that where the cabin filter comes out 231 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: the driver's. 232 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 7: Side, No, it comes out the passenger comes. 233 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: Out the passenger side, okay. And what sort of FULK 234 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: codes did you have? 235 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 7: I had a P one six A zero. 236 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: Okay. 237 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 7: And then I had a P two one two two 238 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 7: and a P two one seven, then a U one 239 00:11:54,960 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 7: one four A you zero one zero four and a 240 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 7: U one one five six okay, P six So. 241 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: The use the user communication faults, the twenty one and 242 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: the twenty one twenty seven are related to the accelerator, 243 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: pedal position, censor or assembly. And what was the what 244 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: was the first one. 245 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 7: That you said, Uh A P one six A zero. 246 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: Okay, P one six A zero is related. And when 247 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: you did this, you took out from the passenger. 248 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 7: Side, Yeah, I took it out. I vacuumed where the 249 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 7: filter went into right because it was empty. It had 250 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 7: a lot of dog hair and all that stuff in it, 251 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 7: so I figured I'd better sweep it out, uh, and 252 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 7: all that stuff. I swept it out, put the filter 253 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 7: back in it, closed it all up. Uh. Drove about 254 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 7: two three miles down to the gas station, left the 255 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 7: running as I was stealing it, and on the way home, 256 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 7: I didn't even go a mile until my check engine 257 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 7: light on and anti traction light came on. Okay. And 258 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 7: when an angel A stas mode. 259 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: P zero one six eight you said, or P one 260 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: zero six. 261 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 7: Eight, P one eight apple zero. 262 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: Okay, P one a apple zero I'm not familiar with, 263 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: so I've got to get I'd have to. 264 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 7: When I googled it for the code, It said. 265 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: Edward Thomas Electronic throttle Control. Okay, well you were you 266 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: were nowhere near any of the throttle control material. Did 267 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: you disconnect any connectors? 268 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 7: No, I just took one screw out, vacuumed it, put 269 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 7: the filter back in, and put screw back in. 270 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: Okay, because this is all referencing the throttle pedal assembly, 271 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: which is on the other side, right, it's on the 272 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: driver's side down by the down on the floor. That's 273 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: the traditional gas pedal. All right, right, if you clear 274 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: the codes, do they come right back? 275 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 7: Yeah? 276 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: Okay, so you've got a hard fault. So the next 277 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: step is we've got a troubleshoot it. Now what this 278 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: is all about is this is a drive by wire car. 279 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: Like so many cars today, there is no direct connection 280 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: between the engine and the and the pedal assembly. It's 281 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: all done by wiring. Okay, So if you were if 282 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: you were to diagnose the twenty one to twenty two 283 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: and the twenty one to twenty seven, they talk about 284 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: connectivity Down at the accelerator pedal. There's a five vault 285 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: signal that comes out on two separate wires, goes to 286 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: the accelerator pedal assembly. Then there's a separate ground for 287 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: each circuit that goes back to the PCM, the main 288 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: engine powertrain control module. All right, and this is talking 289 00:14:55,040 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: about signals being pulled low or short to ground on 290 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: both legs. Oh okay, all right, so you know, obviously 291 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you to go back over the cabin filter. 292 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: Is there is there wiring harness near where you worked 293 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: that you could somehow have pinched, pushed on, not realized 294 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: and damaged that feeds the other side of it. 295 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 7: No wiring, there's no wiring there. 296 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: This was a straight open the door. Put put it 297 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: back in, and we're done, right, Okay, Then we're gonna 298 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: have to look and you can start if you can 299 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: with a scan tool to look at and if you'r 300 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: does your scan tool display data? 301 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 7: It's one of the it's not. 302 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: It's a cheaper one, doesn't matter if it's cheaper, cheaper, cheaper, 303 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: high dollar? Is it? Does it display data stream? Does 304 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: it at least show you ob D two? Does it 305 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: show you basic data? 306 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 7: It just gives you the code and that's pretty much it. 307 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: Okay and all that. Yeah, then you can't really fix 308 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: it with that because I don't I don't want to 309 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: send you down to the accelerator pedal assembly unless you 310 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: got a wiring diagram and a digital vault ometer and 311 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: you're good with wiring that you could start to pick 312 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: it out. But somebody would need to look at data 313 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: stream and what signals do they see coming out of 314 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: that accelerator pedal assembly. I you know, just for the conversation, 315 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: go ahead, I. 316 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 7: Could undineath where the pedal is, the pedal and the 317 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 7: censor unit. It's all one piece. Yep. There's five wires 318 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 7: coming off of it. 319 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: Right, that's correct. There's two or five vault supply, two 320 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: or ground and one is going to be if memory 321 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: serves me correct, the main five vault supply to the 322 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: throttle body itself. Okay, So actually I take that back. 323 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: You've got two accelerator pedal signals, you've got two accelerator 324 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: pedal grounds. You should have six wires. 325 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 7: I think there was five on it my memory, because 326 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 7: it's out in another place where I got I lmed 327 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 7: it two. 328 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: Okay, but there should be six wires. There should be 329 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: two rounds, two five volt references and two accelerator pedal 330 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: signals one and two if not you If not, you've 331 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: got something unique. I believe there's six okay, so maybe 332 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: that's part of the problem where the sixth wire go. 333 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 7: Right, because I never touched anything over there. I wasn't 334 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 7: anywhere near it. 335 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: Right right now, I get it, John, I get it. 336 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: I would wherever it is, whoever's working on it. Your 337 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: next step is going to be to have them look 338 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: at accelerator pedal signal. You know, And this is simple 339 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: to do. This is basic stuff, you know. Drive by 340 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: wire car is simply a throttle position censor on steroids. 341 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: There there's two centers at the accelerator pedal, all right. 342 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: One goes zero to five volts, one goes five volts 343 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: to zero. There's two censors at the throttle body at 344 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: the other end. One goes five vaults to zero. One 345 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: goes zero to five vaults. They're always opposite and correlating 346 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: and checking each other to make sure everybody's where they're 347 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: supposed to be. That's how the computer knows there's a fault. 348 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: So it sounds like there's a hard wiring fault somewhere 349 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: in this vehicle. This should actually be fairly easy to test, 350 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: just a matter of either scoping or scan graphing that, etc. 351 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: Of that throttle pedal assembly, that accelerator pedal assembly, and 352 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: working your way out from there. If you need a 353 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: wiring diagram, send me an email. I'm running ny in 354 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: the car doctor. We'll be back right after this. Don't 355 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: go away. Sounds like the death star is coming. Run 356 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: Nani in the card doctors here first though, let's get 357 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: over to Christian in Kentucky. Nineteen fusion and welcome to 358 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: the car doctor. How can I help? 359 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a nineteen fusion and I had a 360 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: thirteen also, and both the thirteen went out transmission went 361 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: out at about one hundred and sixty eight thousand miles. 362 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: And now I've got a twenty nineteen transmission. 363 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 2: With one hundred and sixty two. 364 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: Thousand and it'll drive fine for a week, and then 365 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: it will start to act like it hits out of 366 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: the air, like the transmission floods level is low, okay, 367 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 3: And so then it'll kind of rend like, you know, 368 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 3: like you're riding a clutch on a motorcycle, right. And 369 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: it may do that for a day or two, and 370 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: then I can drive it for another week or two 371 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: and not have a bit of problem with it. Man, 372 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: You know, everybody just keeps saying, hey, it's a you 373 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: just need to rebuild the whole transmission or put a remanufactured. 374 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: Yet, how many how many miles are on this Christian 375 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: one hundred. 376 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: Sixty two hundred and sixty eight? I know the fusion 377 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 3: has issues with transmission? 378 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: Well, everything has Everything has issues with transmissions. So you 379 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: know that's a that's a generic statement. How many how 380 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: many times you could changed the trans fluid? 381 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 3: About four times? 382 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it's fair, that's fair. Is it setting 383 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: any fault codes? 384 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 3: No, I'm not getting any service lights or anything like 385 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 3: I did on the thirteen. So it's just kind of 386 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 3: you know, it's odd not you know, I'm taking it 387 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: to transmission shops, and you know it's kind of oi 388 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: those odd things. I was just you know, looking and 389 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: trying to debate if I want to try to rebuild 390 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 3: it myself. 391 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: Well components, you know, here's here's here's here's where I 392 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: think you're going to end up. All right, No, you know, 393 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: not that. I don't think you could rebuild it if 394 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: you ever rebuilt an automatic transmission before, I should probably 395 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: ask that question. 396 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, old back in the day. 397 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, old school stuff, right. 398 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 3: Fund school stuff. 399 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: Sure, How did I know that? I kind of had 400 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: that in the back of my head. Yeah, you know, 401 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: we we've all done that, right, you know at some 402 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: point needless to say, it's transmissions to transmission. But the 403 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: newer stuff is it's different but the same. The problem is, well, 404 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: let me ask let me say this too. First step, 405 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: regardless of whether there's a light on or not on 406 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: the dish, has anybody scanned for fault codes? 407 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 3: Yes? 408 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: Okay, they found and haven't found anything. Okay, that's fair. 409 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: The reason I say that is because a lot of 410 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: time is it pending? Is it about to happen? But 411 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: it hasn't happened yet. In your case, it hasn't happened. 412 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: That's not even setting a fault. And it does what 413 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: it it flares and its shift, it's just a longer 414 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: shift between two gears. 415 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like if you're sitting at the stoplight you 416 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 3: start to take off, It's like you're riding the clutch 417 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 3: coming out of you know, on a motorcycle, right, you know, 418 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: it's just kind of slow going to echine reds but 419 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: aren't moved and all of a sudden picks up a 420 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 3: little speed and then it goes. Now sometimes it may 421 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 3: be where I'm in it lands like you're low on 422 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: transmission to it and just lam and I've taken the 423 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 3: board dealership and then look at it. 424 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: I just you know, anyway, if you if you now 425 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 1: you've got it, obviously you've got it, and drive at 426 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: that point correct? Yes, what have you tried putting it 427 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: down into first when it doesn't? 428 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: I have not reached up manually and put it in 429 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 3: a burst and done that through the manual. 430 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: I always do that because I want to know am 431 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: I starting out in the proper gear? That Sometimes that 432 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: that tells me something right where I'm starting out in 433 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: second gear for some reason, And I'll pull the trends 434 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: into first, and all of a sudden it drives normal, 435 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: and then I'll, you know, I'll manually shift it. And 436 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: then at least I can say, okay, I'm starting out 437 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: in the wrong gear. Where does that put me? And 438 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: then I'll look at an oil flow chart and say, well, 439 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it's going to matter because 440 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: the labor to get the trends out of your car 441 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: is going to be prohibitive to just repairing it. I 442 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: think you're gonna end up doing an overhaul. My concern 443 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: is is it mechanical in the trans or is it 444 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: electronic on the outside? 445 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 3: Right, And the thirteen I had rebuilt and it lasted. 446 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: You know, I drove it two hundred and sixty eight 447 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: thousand miles last thannother one hundred thousand miles with a rebuild. 448 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: I traded it in on the nineteenth, right, so you know, 449 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: and that was a at the time. 450 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 3: That was a you know, thirty two hundred dollars repair. 451 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: Now that's repairs, you know, thirty eight to forty six 452 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 3: hundred dollars. 453 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm just trying to side you go 454 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: to a low mileage one that's from a wrecking yard, 455 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 2: or you know, and chance and put it in yourself 456 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: or pay somebody to do it. That's that's really the level. 457 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: I think. If the low mileage one from the wrecking 458 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: yard is five hundred bucks, I think you do it yourself. 459 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: If it's if it's an exact match, all right, you know, 460 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 1: the question is what are the wrecking yards asking for them? 461 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: They're they're looking. I mean, you can find them online 462 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: for you know, eight hundred bucks, right or so eight hundred, 463 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 2: nine hundred dollars, and so to me that seems reasonable, right, 464 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: But you could also buy a whole complete transmission rebuild 465 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: kit with steel balls rather than the little plastic forcelain 466 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: balls or whatever they say that can be causing problems 467 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 2: with these electronic shifts in these newer cars. And you know, 468 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: you can buy these kids for like four hundred and 469 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: fifty dollars five hundred dollars, and that's the new valve 470 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: body and everything. So that's why I was just kind 471 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: of I'm going to delimit. You know, I still owe 472 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: seven grand on the car. I'm not going to get 473 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: that trade in with that type of mind. 474 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: No, I get it, I get it. Let me, let me, 475 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: let me. Let me ask you this question. Do you 476 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: have the time to rebuild this transmission yourself. 477 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: Over a week? 478 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 479 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 7: I could do it, yes, Okay? 480 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: Is that a week that you're gonna miss work or 481 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: you got something else to drive? 482 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: I work from home and I have something else I 483 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: could drive you. 484 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: Okay, then yeah, rebuild it yourself. Rebuild it yourself, because 485 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: that way you know what was done right. If listen, 486 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: I never deter anybody from doing something themselves. If you 487 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: I think you've got the gumption. And I'm not saying 488 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: you do or don't. It sounds like you do. To 489 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: tell you the truth. If you think you can rebuild 490 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: it yourself, just you know, you got to be aware 491 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna run to a couple of special tools there 492 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: here and there. But I've come to the conclusion that 493 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: there are people out there like yourself that are going 494 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: to be creative and innovative and either borrow tools or 495 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: build something that make it work to you know, to 496 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: press clutch packs and put things apart. 497 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 2: And you know that's well, I was asking, you know, 498 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: is it worth trying to rebuild a new electronic with electronics? 499 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: Is you know I haven't dove into one before, right, Well, 500 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: totally different, you know, it's the same but different. 501 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: I'll answer the question this way, then all right, if 502 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: that's if that's what the real question is, because if 503 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: originally I thought it was a matter of saving dollars. 504 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: Our local trans rebuilder, the guy that will send transmissions 505 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: to and say here because we don't do transit in 506 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: house anymore. For just this reason, we haven't done transis 507 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: in house in about fifteen years. Our local builder in town, 508 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: he would buy a unit from Ford and install it. 509 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: He wouldn't build it himself. And when I asked him 510 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: want and that's what most people right, well, when I 511 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: ask him why, because the tolerances inside those transmissions today 512 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: are so critical. It's not just air checking something with 513 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: an air hose to see if the ball moves anymore. 514 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: There's there's a lot more to it because well, one 515 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: of the reasons is there's there's less to a transmission 516 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: in terms of you know, case sized, diameter, strength, et cetera. 517 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: You know, they're they're they're taking weight out where they can. 518 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: They're trying to get things down to an exact science, 519 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: to an exact moment, to an exact point of failure. 520 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: If you want my opinion that you know, it's it's 521 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: a very much more precise piece of equipment that thirteen 522 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: to the nineteen, that nineteen to twenty three, if we 523 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: talk about a newer vehicle. So you know, that's why 524 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: I say, how much time do you have? Right? You know, 525 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: it's it's how much time do you have? If My 526 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: point is if a local builder that's been doing them 527 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: for fifty years, fifty five years as policy in his 528 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: shop won't rebuild them in the shop. That tells me something, 529 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's that's the commitment. You know, that's 530 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: like here in New Jersey. As far as this sounds, 531 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm just curious. You're in Kentucky. How many engine machine 532 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: shops do you have in your area near your house? Any? Ten? Five? 533 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: There's there's one left. We still got some track late 534 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: model stuff around. 535 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: Okay, that's one, but there's one in our town. 536 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: There there was probably. 537 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: Four right right, there isn't There isn't an engine There 538 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: isn't an engine machine shop rebuilder. Uh, North Jersey as 539 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: far as I know from the city of Newark, North 540 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: and that's a pretty big area. So you know, that's 541 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: another reason things don't get rebuilt in in in shops 542 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: anymore because of there's no demand. And when the demand 543 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: goes away, the skill set goes away, the special tools 544 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: go away, so everything collectively goes back to the bigger sources, 545 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: in this case, the manufacturer who's rebuilding that trends, testing 546 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: it and then sending it out with a guarantee. 547 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: So, well, do you have a recommendation of two besides 548 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: the board dealership, because I know there are some transmission 549 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: people to buy remanufactured. One of the one of the dealers, 550 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: one of the transmission shop says, yeah, we want to 551 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: rebuild it. We'll just we'll buy a doing because it 552 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: comes with a three year, thirty six mile right and 553 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: where Jasper, is there anybody else out there that is 554 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: recommendable for new. 555 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if Jasper's not doing it, Jasper's 556 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: not doing it for a reason, all right, So I 557 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: think it kind of gets into I think it kind 558 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: of gets into if Jasper's not doing it, I think 559 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: your best bet is forward, as you know, there's a reason, 560 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: there's something there. They're doing there. They see something, they 561 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: want to do something, and they're they're giving you a warranty, 562 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: best control go to from dealer to deal in nationwide coverage. 563 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: I think you've answered your own question. Good luck to you, Christian. 564 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: Let us know what you decide, and I'll look forward 565 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: to what you end up doing. I'm running ending in 566 00:28:51,880 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. We're back right after this every every way. 567 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: See welcome back, Running the car Doctor. Let's let's go 568 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: over to Francine and Delaware. Franccene. Welcome to the car Doctor. 569 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: How can I help? 570 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 4: Yes, Hello, this is not the first time I've spoken 571 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 4: to you. Thanks for your help. I have a twenty 572 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 4: twenty cheap compass what new have less than five thousand 573 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 4: miles on it? I get it, oil changes, you know, well, 574 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 4: whenever needed. At the dealership they and I think I 575 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 4: talked to you about this, They put in a battery 576 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 4: maintainer because I wasn't driving the car enough. So that's 577 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 4: been working fine. My question today is that cheap? That 578 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 4: model cheap? When you go to a full stop signed, 579 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: you know, or a full stop at the light, the 580 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 4: engine goes way down, almost off, supposedly to save gasoline, 581 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 4: but as I'm finding out from others, not the best thing. 582 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: Some people turn them off all together, okay, because they 583 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 4: say it could cause damage to other parts of the car. 584 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: So are you are you're you're telling me that this 585 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: vehicle has start stop technology where it will pull down 586 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: to a stop sign and shut off and then restart. 587 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: Or you're saying it idles low. 588 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 4: It must idle very low. I don't think it turns 589 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 4: off all together, but it idled very low. 590 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: Well, if you look at the if you look at 591 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: the engine techometer, your vehicle has a spinometer and an 592 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: engine speed indicator. Correct? 593 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 4: Correct? 594 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: Is the engine speed indicator go to zero? 595 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 4: I really haven't paid attention to that. 596 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 597 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 7: I'll have to look. 598 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 4: But the gentleman that answered the phone when I called, 599 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 4: he said his daughter has a car like that, and 600 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: he understands the circumstances, and he told her to turn 601 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: it off. 602 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, let's back up thought's but let's keep apples 603 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: to apples, all right? In reference in reference to the jeep, 604 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: All right, if we're talking about start stop or is 605 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: it really a low idle speed. The reason I'm asking 606 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: is because that particular jeep, the Compass, in eighteen and nineteen, 607 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: they had problems with the wiring harness under the passenger 608 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: side seat where the harness was having poor connectivity by 609 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: the inboard seat mounts, and damage to the harness would 610 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: cause the vehicle to actually stall and you may or 611 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: may not get a fault code. So that's why I'm asking. 612 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm wondering, are you having a stalling event 613 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: or are you seeing a start stop event and misconstruing 614 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: it for a problem, So you know this is really no. 615 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: No, I don't think that is a problem. They're saying 616 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 4: others that have the jeeps are saying that you're better 617 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 4: off turning that item off for good so that it 618 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 4: does not and supposedly save you. Guess, because this on 619 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 4: off that it does or goes high and low, it 620 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 4: could cause a problem to other parts of the car. 621 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: Gotcha? Okay, now I got you. 622 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: We whether it's a transmission or whatever else. 623 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm going to tell you this first of all, 624 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: starts stop is part of federal emissions control policy. That 625 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: being said, I'm also trying to be practical about this. 626 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of start stop. It's more wear 627 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: and tear on the starter. It's more wear and tear 628 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: on the vehicle. I also don't like the idea of 629 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: on a cold winter morning, the vehicle shuts off. Well, 630 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: I know that runs until it warms up, but then 631 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: the vehicle shuts off in cold weather as the vehicle 632 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: gets older. Will it start each and every time? You know, 633 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: there's a point of security. The vehicle starts at your house. 634 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: If it fails to start, you get out, you walk 635 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: back into the house. If the vehicle stalls or shuts 636 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: off two miles from the house after it's warmed up 637 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: and it doesn't rest, you're not walking that two miles 638 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: and freezing cold weather. That's a problem. Francene, sit tight. 639 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: Let me pull over and take a pause. I want 640 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: to finish up with you on the other side of this, 641 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: and then we'll get you solved. I'm running any in 642 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor will return right after this. Who's gone 643 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: and got Welcome back? Running in the car, doctor, Francine Delaware, 644 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: you're still there. 645 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm here, So start stop. 646 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: You know, they came out with it six seven years ago. 647 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: They deem it an essential part of the emission control 648 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: plans going forward because yeah, they're trying to cut down 649 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: on emissions, they're trying to save fuel. I see it 650 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: as wear and tear on the vehicle. I see an 651 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: awful lot of wear and tear on the vehicle. You know, 652 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: the oil change becomes critical, the battery becomes critical. The 653 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: starter should it ever failed, that starter is oh, I 654 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: don't know if if a gas engine starter is two 655 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: three hundred dollars, that start stop starter, because it's so 656 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: much more heavy duty is anywhere from eleven hundred to 657 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars and up for the average start stop vehicle. 658 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: It just becomes more expensive. There are software manufacturers, or 659 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: there are hardware manufacturers that have software that would plug 660 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: into the OBD two port that will cause that vehicle 661 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: to bypass and not allow start stop to happen. You'd 662 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: have to do some research to find them online and 663 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: then obviously read the reviews before we plug something in. 664 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: Is everybody satisfied with it? The one thing I want 665 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: to leave you with is there's a bulletin from Chrysler 666 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: with regards to the throttle body on your vehicle. All right, 667 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: bulletin number nine dish double O three dash twenty. It 668 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: came out ninesh double O three dash twenty. I believe 669 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: it's revision C or D nine. Yes, maam, it's revision 670 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: C or D. They talk about potential problems with the 671 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: throttle body on that vehicle. You may want to take 672 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: it into your jeep dealer and ask them to review 673 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: make sure that that does not apply to your vehicle 674 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: so you're not caught short and that could be causing 675 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: your low IDOL issue. But you know, as gars far 676 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: as start stop goes, those are my thoughts. I appreciate 677 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: the conversation Frans scene. I'm on an ending of the 678 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: card doctor reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 679 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: See you