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Speaker 1: And welcome at lake Is Live. It is Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: December twentieth, Dear Our Lord, twenty twenty. We got a

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Speaker 1: full show tonight that I can promise you. We are

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Speaker 1: going to do full playoff reaction in our own special

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Speaker 1: way around here. So if you're looking for basically a

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Speaker 1: repeat of what you saw on the broadcast types earlier today,

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Speaker 1: probably not going to get that. But we will react

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Speaker 1: as only we can. I've got a lot to say,

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Speaker 1: got a lot of different popular talking points to address.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to address people by name. That would

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Speaker 1: be rude, of course, unless I'm going to say something positive.

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Speaker 1: I am going to react. You know, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be bold right here. But we kind of care about

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Speaker 1: conference championship games on this show, you know, college football,

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Speaker 1: instead of folks sitting around a desk talking about hypotheticals.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to talk a lot about the conference

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Speaker 1: championship games yesterday too, including one that started Friday night.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to hit on that. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: give you the very latest that we're hearing out of Auburn. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there is still a coaching search going on down on

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Speaker 1: the planes. And then and this is in no particular order.

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Speaker 1: It's just off the top of my head. Then at

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Speaker 1: some point in the show, we got to hit on Knoxville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: We haven't really talked about that, but there was a

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Speaker 1: new card kind of inserted into the deck over the

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Speaker 1: So we are going to hit on that cause there

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Speaker 1: may be some movement happening at Tennessee. And then I'm

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Speaker 1: going to give you some time because a lot of

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Speaker 1: you are cheering right now. Shame on you. By the way,

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Speaker 1: they're rip people involved here, so shame on you. But

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Speaker 1: we are going to talk about all that. So this

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Speaker 1: is just a little programming note here. The last show

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Speaker 1: that we're going to have live until after Christmas, so

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Speaker 1: I'll be Colin, is that after Christmas. Let's see it

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Speaker 1: is okay, So we'll be back here Sunday night. So

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Speaker 1: the next live show we'll do is Sunday night. Now,

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Speaker 1: having said that, obviously a lot can and probably will

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Speaker 1: happen this week. So I'll be down in Georgia. I'll

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Speaker 1: be at home, and I will be ready to react

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Speaker 1: if something happens at Auburn, if something happens at Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: If something happens at a number of different places where

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Speaker 1: having been here all year. And then there's one more

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Speaker 1: thing I have to beg you for. After I say

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Speaker 1: thank you, I got to be honest with you. Some

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Speaker 1: people around here, perhaps myself included, secretly doubted that we

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Speaker 1: could ever get there. And by there, I mean one

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Speaker 1: thousand five star reviews on the Late Kick podcast. But

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Speaker 1: lo and behold, as of about six and a half

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Speaker 1: five star review. That's all I'm asking. That is my

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Speaker 1: Christmas present request to you. It is free of charge.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even asking you for a Vitamin Shop gift card.

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Speaker 1: This is my normal request. I'm just asking you for

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Speaker 1: a five star review in Apple Podcast. And before we

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Speaker 1: actually get to business tonight, I have got slots open.

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Speaker 1: Some of you were emailing me and got a heads

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Speaker 1: This week. We have had a busy week with this.

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Speaker 1: I had some really good conversations with you guys this

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Speaker 1: past week. Anyone, I'm going to be more free this

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Speaker 1: joshpat seven zero six at gmail dot com, at Latekickjosh

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Speaker 1: to talk tonight. We've got a lot to get to

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Speaker 1: break some news that's a few hours old now, and

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Speaker 1: I'm holding up the sheet of paper. You know, this

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Speaker 1: show is largely ad libbed because I wanted to make

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Speaker 1: tell you we have a new odds on favorite for

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Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy. It is not Najie Harris, although he

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. No, much to the dismay of many, many,

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Speaker 1: many me commentators on major networks, And it's not Mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: man who just caught the past from Mac Jones. If

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Speaker 1: you're watching on YouTube, Davonte Smith is now a minus

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Speaker 1: one seventy favorite to win the Heisman Trophy. These odds

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Speaker 1: it looks like, is either DeVante Smith's or mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: We have openly and somewhat unprofessionally, but we don't care,

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Speaker 1: lobbied for Davante Smith on the show. We will continue

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Speaker 1: to do so. All the votes have not been turned

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Speaker 1: in yet, or maybe they have, maybe they have been. Listen.

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Speaker 1: but I hope you voted for Davonte Smith. I cited

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Speaker 1: It was either a Zenith or Talty, both of those

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. The college football playoff

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Speaker 1: field is set. We've got Alabama, Notre Dame in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: We have got Ohio State and Clemson in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Which of those games would you rather go to? By

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Speaker 1: I don't think there was an obvious number four. The

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Speaker 1: And I told you many times and I'll tell you again.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It's why I get to have a job.

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Speaker 1: You care about this stuff. You care about it a

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to rub it in your face at all.

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Speaker 1: arguing mightily come December twentieth year of our Lord twenty

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Speaker 1: and hats off to Greg Sanki, who should have really

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Speaker 1: So round of applause for everyone watching to SEC Commissioner

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Speaker 1: Greg Sanki, we are going to build a real life

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Speaker 1: statue of him right here in this studio. Having said that,

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Speaker 1: let's get back on track here. I didn't really think

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Speaker 1: to a more expansive model. I like the structure we

429
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Speaker 1: have right now. I like the exclusivity. I like that

430
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,399
Speaker 1: you have to jump over a lot of hurdles in

431
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Speaker 1: order to get in this thing. I like that even

432
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 1: the good Power five teams get left out most of

433
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,680
Speaker 1: the time. I agree with the format. I agree with

434
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 1: the teams they put in this year. In fact, I

435
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 1: think I've agreed with the four teams they've put in

436
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 1: every single year. But all right, now, let me get

437
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 1: friendly again. I love G five football. I love it.

438
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 1: I talk about it with you guys individually all the time.

439
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 1: The videos don't do great numbers, so I don't talk

440
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 1: about it on the show, but a lot of you

441
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 1: can vouch for the fact that I talked all week

442
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,719
Speaker 1: with you guys about it in the DMS. Here's what

443
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 1: you'll never hear me say. Okay, And I want to

444
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 1: specify this because a lot of times the wrong beliefs

445
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 1: get thrown at people who are of my opinion. I'm

446
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 1: of the opinion that I like four. I like it

447
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 1: to be extremely hard, if not impossible, for a G

448
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 1: five team to make it in the playoff as it's

449
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 1: structured now. But yet I love G five football. Those

450
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 1: two things don't compute right well, they do. But I

451
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 1: want to tell you what I don't believe. You will

452
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 1: never hear me say G fives are incapable of competing

453
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: with P fives. Well, that's of course absurd. They do

454
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 1: it every year, They've done it in the postseason. You

455
00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 1: will never hear me disrespect G five teams because I

456
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: have ultra high respect for them. I know coaches on

457
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 1: G five staffs like I know what those guys go through.

458
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: I know the kinds of disadvantages they face, and how

459
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 1: how many obstacles in a lot of cases they overcome

460
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: in the ability to compete with their Power five brethren.

461
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes I know all that. I am uniquely aware of that.

462
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: You will never hear me say I don't want them

463
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: to get a shot, even though it sounds like I

464
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 1: just did. No, I want them to get a shot.

465
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm just a realist about college football's postseason. I do

466
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Speaker 1: not compare the Power five product to the G five.

467
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: But here's what I'm not saying. I'm not saying G

468
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: five P five don't compare what I don't make that mistake.

469
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Speaker 1: We're talking about the playoff here. We're not talking about

470
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Speaker 1: the Music City Bowl. We're talking about the college football playoff.

471
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: So in order to do that, we're comparing the top

472
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Speaker 1: of the G five to the top of the P five,

473
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Speaker 1: the elites that we're not talking about Wake Forest, We're

474
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Speaker 1: talking about Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State. The best G five

475
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 1: teams don't compare there. That's just reality. I got news

476
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: for you. Ninety five percent of the P five teams

477
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 1: don't either. So before they chuckle over there, you don't

478
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: have anything more in common with Alabama than Cincinnati does.

479
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: In fact, Cincinnati may have a little bit more in

480
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: common with him than you do at Missouri right now,

481
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: So I just sit over in the corner and be

482
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: quiet and let us talk about this. It's impossible to

483
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: meet the minimum threshold, in my mind, to qualify for

484
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: the current college football playoff for ninety nine percent of

485
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: G five teams. It has nothing to do with the team.

486
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with whether I think they'd

487
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Speaker 1: be good enough to compete. Please understand what I'm saying.

488
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: It has if I'm looking at Cincinnati right now or

489
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: UCF in the past. It has nothing to do with

490
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Speaker 1: whether I think if I put them on the field

491
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Speaker 1: in a one game situation they could compete. I think

492
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: they could, actually, so let me go that far. I

493
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: think they could. It's about the challenge it's about a

494
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: minimum baseline threshold of a challenge that your schedule has

495
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Speaker 1: to present to you that I do not think a

496
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Speaker 1: G five schedule presents. Let me also pause and tell

497
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: you that line between G five and P five blurry

498
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: it best right now. So I think a lot of

499
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: the American athletics schedule conferences probably overlap and maybe even

500
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: exceed at this point, some of the PAC twelve's schedules.

501
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: So I'll probably not even say the word or I'll

502
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: probably not even use the letters and numbers Power five

503
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: all that much longer. I think the bottom of that

504
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: scale is kind of eroded a little bit. But to

505
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: put a very fine emphatical point on this and show

506
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: you what I mean, I could take the Kansas City

507
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: Chiefs and I could give them Cincinnati schedule right now,

508
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't support them being in the College Football Playoff,

509
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: just to show you it has nothing to do with Cincinnati,

510
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: and it has nothing to do with those teams. I

511
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care what team you are. If

512
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: I took Alabama and I gave them Tulsa's schedule, I

513
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: wouldn't support them being in the playoff. It would have

514
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with the quality of team. There is

515
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: a minimum baseline challenge you have to have faced. If

516
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Speaker 1: you don't face it, then you didn't put yourself in

517
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: the arena through no fault of yours. It's just you

518
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: didn't face it, and it's not your fault. Well, it's

519
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: also not Alabama's fault or Notre Dame's fault either. How

520
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: do you fix that? So some people's answer is to expand.

521
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the answer. Some people's thought is, well,

522
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: we've got to have auto bids. I don't think that's

523
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: the answer. So my ANSWER's always been a G five playoff.

524
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: Some people push back on that. Some people think it's

525
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: a good idea. I'd love to see it. I ask

526
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: why is there pushback a G five playoff. You can

527
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: model it and structure it exactly how the Power five

528
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: is currently structured. For the folks who push back on that,

529
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: I just ask this question, what are you pushing back on?

530
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: Because if the entire basis for your argument is G

531
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: five programs belong in this conversation because they are comparable

532
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: to the P five, because they can compete with the

533
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: P five, well, then by default your product should be

534
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: just as good. It should be a standalone product. If

535
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: you have your own playoff over here, it should carry

536
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: just as much weight. It should be standing alone in nature.

537
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: People should be interested enough to watch. Therefore, it's going

538
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: to have intrinsic value. What about this is not true

539
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: unless you don't really believe in the points you're making Now.

540
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: I think it would succeed. I think it'd be a

541
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: big hit. But you think right now the power five

542
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: structure is screwing you, and you're partially right about that.

543
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: You think it's very exclusive and it's not allowing you

544
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: at the table. You're very much right about that. So

545
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: how about a model wherein number one you have full autonomy.

546
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: Number two you get everything that you're asking for. You

547
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: get a seat, you get equality, everyone gets a shot

548
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: at number three. It's fair, it's decided fair. Things aren't

549
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: fair right now, so you need If if I were

550
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: in a situation where it was untenable and I could

551
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: get away from the current situation and start my own,

552
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: I go start my own. That's what I would do.

553
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: You can remain angry, though, like you can disagree with me.

554
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you right now are disagreeing,

555
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: and that's fine, it's just college football at the end

556
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: of the day. But I want to ask you, who

557
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: are you really angry at? You angry at the College

558
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: Football Playoff? You angry at people like me who like

559
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: the current model. If you are, why, Because I didn't

560
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: make this thing, and the folks who did make this

561
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: thing I don't necessarily think are the folks you think

562
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: they are. You think it's an ESPN deal. You think

563
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: there's this big bad wolf that's a big broadcast monster,

564
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: and it's all fixed. And you may be half right

565
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: about that. In fact, you may be mostly right about that.

566
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: But let me ask you something. Have you heard G

567
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: five commissioners speak out against this thing, really speak out

568
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: against it, not recite talking points like a politician does,

569
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: when you know behind the scenes they're sitting there rubbing

570
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: their hands together. No, no, no, no, I mean, has

571
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: there been any actionable move by a G five conference

572
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: commissioner to overturn this, to revolt, to rebel against it.

573
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: The answer is node. You know why. Let me once

574
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: again fill you in on this little secret. The entire

575
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: reason the College Football Playoff exists is because everyone signed

576
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: off on it. Current format, current structure, current way. It's decided, Yeah,

577
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: the Power five Conference commissioners, they had no problem signing

578
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: off on it. But you know which other signatures are

579
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: on that contract, the signatures of G five commissioners. And

580
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: so just as sure as they walk to a podium

581
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: and with a microphone in front of their face, they

582
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: scream outrage. They're in the back room, back you're accounting money.

583
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: They need it. They need it. They did the same

584
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: thing I would do. They need it. But how are

585
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: you going to fix it? Because you can argue the

586
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: college football playoffs hurt the sport, and you could argue

587
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: all that, But I'm just telling you it's not fixable.

588
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: That's the whole point. It's not fixable. It's you're going

589
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: to have problems no matter what you do, because if

590
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: you split off over here, you're gonna have a revenue problem.

591
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: If you stay here where you're kind of subsidized, you're

592
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: gonna have an inclusion problem. You're always going to have

593
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: a problem. But I want to address a couple of

594
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: more points that people are making today, and then we'll

595
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: move on a lot of points people are making today

596
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: have something to do with one of the two bullet points. Mainly,

597
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: there are many folks who believe that the College Football

598
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: Playoff has hurt the sport because now only a few

599
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: teams can really compete for a national title, You are right, partially,

600
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: only a few teams can compete for the national title

601
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: right now? Why can only a few teams? Why is

602
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: Bama there every year? Why it's Clemson there every year?

603
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: Are you suggesting to me that the College Football Playoff

604
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: did something to put those teams in perennial position to

605
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: compete for a championship, because I don't think that's the

606
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: case at all. I told you the other day on

607
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: the show. What I think has happened is that there

608
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: were a few programs who had themselves in the right position,

609
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: and there was a massive over the past decade and

610
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: a half to two decades, there has been a massive

611
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: infusion of TV cash into this sport. That's before even

612
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff contract came into the room. It's

613
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: now here and here to stay. But there was a

614
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: massive influx of new TV cash into the room long

615
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: before the College Football Playoff came around, and there were

616
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: programs that were structured the right way, They were built

617
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: on a firm foundation, and then when the money came

618
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: in the room. The ones who were doing it the

619
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: right way they built high rises, and the ones who

620
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: were doing it the wrong way didn't matter because they

621
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: were building on sand, so it was going to keep

622
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: collapsing on them, and it didn't matter how much money

623
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: they kept throwing at the problem. They didn't have the

624
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: foundation built right. But there were a few programs. Saban's

625
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: Alabama is one of them, Debo's Clemson is one of them.

626
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer and now Ryan Dais Ohio State was one

627
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: of them. Lincoln Riley and Bob Stoops even before him,

628
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: that Oklahoma program was one of them. Those high rises

629
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: started to go up really quickly. It's like New York

630
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: in the late seventies early eighties, maybe in the mafia

631
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: running things, but those high rises were going up really quickly.

632
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: So you started to see some separation really quickly. And

633
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: there was this other thing happening too. It was a

634
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: very very quick offensive evolution toward the quarterback position, which

635
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: has always been the most important position. It became really

636
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: really important. Never has the game hinged on quarterback play

637
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: like it does. If you've got a Trevor Lawrence now

638
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: or a to a tongue of Iloa or a Kyle

639
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: Trask or a Mac Jones. That one person, that one dude,

640
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: is the difference in your entire fortune. And then when

641
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: one of them leaves, you have another one come in.

642
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Speaker 1: And it's a cycle, but it's a cycle that had

643
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: to start somewhere. Where where did it start? And if

644
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: you're telling me the playoffs started it, well I ask

645
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: you how in the world did LSU do what they

646
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: did last year? LSU was not close to being in

647
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: the playoff until they were. And what did they do well?

648
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: They had an athletic structure that got Scott Woodward and

649
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: there as the athletic director, and he had very barely

650
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: been there when they won the title. I understand that.

651
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: But they had a good roster there and the right

652
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: quarterback walked in and Joe Burrow and they had everything

653
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: come together as has to happen to win a title.

654
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: And there's nothing about the college football playoff that propelled LSU.

655
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: LSU propelled LSU. And if you don't think there are

656
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: not another dozen programs, at the very very least in

657
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: major college football capable of doing that, you're crazy. The problem,

658
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: as we all know, if you really step back and

659
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: think about this is it's much easier for folks associated

660
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: with failing football programs to look at you and say, guys,

661
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: what can we do? The playoffs keeping us out. It's

662
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 1: a lot easier to say that than for them to say, guys,

663
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: we suck and we have no clue how to run

664
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: an athletic department, and we really if we could get

665
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: out of our own way, we could be successful. That

666
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: is the current plight of the University of Tennessee. That

667
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: is the current plight of the University of Texas. The

668
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: playoff is not keeping those teams out. Those teams are

669
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: keeping those teams out. And then the other argument that

670
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: I had made to me probably one hundred times today

671
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 1: is well, at the very least, we need auto bids

672
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: to make conference championships matter again because these games get

673
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: really boring and no one cares about them. No, no,

674
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: that's not the case at all. You may not care

675
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: about them, We care about them a great deal. In fact,

676
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: if you can think back to either the Late Kick

677
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: podcast or Late Kick Live, which we're doing right now,

678
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: and Colin can attest to this. Colin, I don't think

679
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: I've had you make a single playoff projection graphic. The

680
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: entire year. When we talk about Oregon in September and

681
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: October and November, we talk about them within the context

682
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: of making the Pac twelve championship game. When we talk

683
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 1: about Georgia, we talk about them making it to Atlanta

684
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve, we talk about teams make it

685
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: to the Big Twelve championship game. That's because we still

686
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: revolve our thinking around a conference championship structure. We still

687
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: think in terms of conference and I have suggested to you,

688
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 1: and I will continue to suggest to you. You decide

689
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: what you care about. You decide what you place value

690
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: on the college football playoffs. Nebulous it's there, but we

691
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: don't even talk about it until right before the playoff happens.

692
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: This is our second college football playoff topic of the

693
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: entire season. This year. We've done several conference topics, second

694
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: playoff topic. The college football playoff is not hurting college

695
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: football nearly as much as the way the sport is

696
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: covered is hurting college football. That's why we intentionally do

697
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: it different around here than I see it done elsewhere,

698
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: I tweeted out earlier today. I don't even watch college

699
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: football studio coverage. I never see it. I hear you

700
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: guys complain all the time, and you tell me one

701
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: of the reasons you watch late kick is because we

702
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: don't do it the way the other guys doing That

703
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: part is intentional, but I expose myself to a little

704
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: bit of it this morning. It doesn't shock me at

705
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: all that a growing amount of people don't care about

706
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: the conference championship. You got playoff propaganda being thrown at

707
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: you from August on. Well, if you're told that's what matters,

708
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: and you don't detach yourself from it, like I've been

709
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: thankfully wise enough to do, well, then you get convinced

710
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: the only thing the matter is college football playoff. Well,

711
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: that's not the case, and you have the power as

712
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: to whether you think that's the case or not. Let's

713
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: move on. Let's talk about actual games. Conference championship Saturday.

714
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: In the books yesterday, got a lot to say about this.

715
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: Alabama beats Florida fifty two to forty six, not twenty six,

716
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: not thirty six forty six. We expected Florida's game of

717
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: the year. A lot of you laughed at us about that.

718
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: I never wavered Florida lost to LSU. That much is true,

719
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: But as much as that mattered in the context of

720
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: the college football playoff. It mattered none. Within the context

721
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: of last night's game in Atlanta for the SEC Championship.

722
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: We never thought that, and so I thought Alabama would

723
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: win by a little bit wider margin. But I fully

724
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: expected Florida come out on fire and to play the

725
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: best game of the year, and they did. That's by

726
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: far the strongest four quarter push Alabama's gotten all year,

727
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: and yet they still won. So Alabama's offense, what is

728
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: it really? If I were to ask you describe it.

729
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: I've only listened to them on radio. I've never watched them.

730
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: Describe Alabama's offense for me, Well, what do you say?

731
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: Because they're one part high performance sports car and then

732
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: they're another part rock slide. They can do either, and

733
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: they can do it in the same drive, at the

734
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: drop of a hat, snap of a finger, whatever you

735
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: want to say. Naja Harris yesterday had a very Derek

736
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: Henry's stat line. It's been a long time since anyone

737
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: said that about a running back at Alabama or in

738
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: college football in general. He had thirty one carries. I

739
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: don't know when the last time Obama back not named

740
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: Henry had thirty or more carries. Najia Harris has thirty

741
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: one carries for one hundred and seventy eight yards and

742
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, and tax on five receptions for sixty seven

743
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns. Guy had five total touchdowns last night.

744
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: And you got to credit Florida, I mean you really do,

745
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: because they were down thirty five seventeen at the half.

746
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: Bama's well on their way to it looks like naming

747
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: the score. They've run fifty one plays in the first half,

748
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: which was important because Florida the week before their defense

749
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: had been on the field for like eighty six or

750
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: something like that. And so Florida at the halftime point

751
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: of this game yesterday, their defense had been on the

752
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: field one hundred and thirty seven plays over the last

753
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: six quarters. That's tough. And yet the Gators still outscored

754
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: Alabama twenty eight to seventeen in the second half. I

755
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: was impressed. It just screamed how much more inexplicable that

756
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: lost to LSU last week was. And as for Alabama,

757
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: here was where it was funny. So after the game,

758
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: I had already watched Dabos Swinney's postgame press conference where

759
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: he's given unlimited stage time to vouch for Trevor Lawrence

760
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: and the Heisman, and he's talking about who should be in,

761
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: who should be out. Brian Kelly's debating left and right.

762
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: He's really angry and salty with the media. We should

763
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: still be in. We got all kinds of folks out

764
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: there lobbying for this, lobbying for that. Jimbo Fisher looks

765
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: like he's thrown up gang signs because he's counting on

766
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: his fingers so many different ways that Texas A and

767
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: M should be in. Nick Saban is leaned back with

768
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: a cup of gatorade on the field, and then I

769
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: see him in another postgame interview where his biggest concern

770
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: is the fact that they're having the playoff selection reveal

771
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: while he's going to be in church this morning, and

772
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: so he's not really going to know what happened before

773
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: he gets out, and that was the biggest concern. So

774
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: different worlds that some coaches live in versus other coaches

775
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: really fascinating. When you got the number one seed locked up,

776
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: you don't really have a whole lot to worry about.

777
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: What about the team that locked up the number two seed? Emphatically,

778
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: the Clemson Tigers. Atonement was the name of the game

779
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: last night in Charlotte. Thirty four to ten is the final.

780
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: Got a couple of padlock stats. I'm having fun with

781
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: you guys because a lot of you are sending me

782
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: padlock stats. Now I barely even have to pull up

783
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: the stat broadcast box score, but I do it anyway.

784
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: So you guys were dead on the money. This one

785
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: was really not all that hard to see. If you

786
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: want the game, you know where I'm going. The first

787
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: time around, Traves etn had under thirty total rushing yards.

788
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: It was a very very meek performance for the Clemson

789
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: offense and the Clemson running game in particular. That changed

790
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: yesterday in a big way. Clemson had twenty seven runs

791
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: for two hundred and nineteen yards. That's good for eight

792
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: point one yards per carry. That and that alone would

793
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: be enough if you told me Friday to know they're

794
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: going to win, probably convincingly. But if that's not enough,

795
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: how about a second padlock stat. Because just as impressive

796
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: as Clemson was on the ground, flipping the script from

797
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: the first time they played, there was another part of

798
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: the script that they flipped and they flat out said

799
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: we are not going to be run on again. That's

800
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: if ian Book beats us. Ian Book beats us, we

801
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: ain't getting run on again. Thirty carries for forty four

802
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: total yards for Notre Dame. That friends is good for

803
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: one point five yards per clip. And I heard some

804
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: folks on the Notre Dame side. I think it may

805
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: have been ian Book that quoted as saying, this game

806
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: tonight it was just kind of an anomaly. We didn't

807
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: show up. I think he's right in theory that one

808
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: of these games was an anomaly. I just don't think

809
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: it was the one from last night. And I was

810
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: wrong about this. I thought Notre Dame was going to

811
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: be much more competitive and they just weren't. So I

812
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: just I was wrong about that one. But I do

813
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: think there was an anomaly here. The unfortunate part for

814
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, because I think the anomaly was the first

815
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: time they played. And as much as dj Uyangola, Lay's

816
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: stat line was very impressive the first time around. You

817
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: saw Trevor Lawrence last night, he had I don't know

818
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: how many on the ground. He had a really really

819
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: good game. And so Trevor Lawrence and the different dynamic

820
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: that his game has, plus the overall just cerebral nature.

821
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: And you guys know how much I love that word

822
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: of his game. It's a different level. It should be

823
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: a different level he's been there forever. And so they

824
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: were very, very impressive. They being Clemson, they're on their

825
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: way to the college football Playoff, and once again the

826
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: rest of the college football world kind of looks and

827
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: they shake their head and they say, is that team

828
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: going to peak at the right time again? Are they

829
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: going to do this thing again? EJ. Williams, you know,

830
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: there's Phoenix City, Alabama's right next to Columbus where I

831
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: grew up. There's just a little conveyor belt right now.

832
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: This just pumping freak wide receivers out to Clemson. You

833
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: had justin Ross. You got EJ. Williams there. I don't

834
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: know what Central High School's doing right now. That's the

835
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: high school they come from. I don't know what Central

836
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: High School has on the roster right now, but just

837
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: take the best receiver from there and dou'p being Clemson

838
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: in two years catching balls one handed. There was a game,

839
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: by the way, before I move on, there was a

840
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: game a couple of years ago. It was a playoff game.

841
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: I think or maybe a preseason, maybe an outer region game.

842
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm covering games, and so when you cover for local news,

843
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: you do several games in one night. So I get

844
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: over to Garrett Harrison Stadium. It's right off JR. Island

845
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: Park Way there in Phoenix City, and I go and

846
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm covering a game and I'm on the sideline and

847
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: there is a receiver named Justin Ross, it turns out,

848
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: who is making all kinds of plays for Central. Then

849
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: there's this other kid from Lee Montgomery who fields. He

850
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: catches a slant over the middle, and he looks like

851
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: he hits a fast forward button. He's working in like

852
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: time and a half speed relative to Central's defenders. And

853
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: so I say, who in the world. So I look

854
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: at the number and then I pull up the roster

855
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: they've given me, and that kid's name was Henry Ruggs.

856
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: So we had Henry Ruggs and Justin Ross in the

857
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: same field out there. And that was just a normal

858
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: Friday night in Phoenix City, Alabama. So Phoenix City pumping

859
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: them out. How about Oklahoma, man, this one hurts, Okay.

860
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: So the Sooners beat Iowa State twenty seven to twenty one.

861
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: It did indeed pay me. I won't lie. A lot

862
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: of you, and very respectfully, a lot of you were

863
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: there for me in my moment of need yesterday, and

864
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: I did need someone. I just needed someone to feel

865
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: sorry for me. That's all I wanted. All I wanted

866
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: was people to feel sorry for me, and I got it.

867
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: I was very surprised I got, to be honest with you,

868
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: I was very surprised at the amount of I don't

869
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: know if you would call them procedural or just self

870
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: imposed or self inflicted errors on a Iowa State's part.

871
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: That is, I'm not one of these guys who takes

872
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 1: away things from an opponent. I'm not that at all.

873
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: The point is Oaklee Lahoma puts plenty enough on you

874
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: to beat you, and part of the pressure that an

875
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: opponent like Oklahoma applies to you can be a contributing

876
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: factor to the mistakes you make. Understanding all that, there

877
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: were some things that happened procedurally for Iowa State yesterday.

878
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: There were some decisions made at the quarterback position that,

879
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: relative to the second half of the season, had been

880
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: pretty atypical. So it was disappointing to lose by six

881
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: points and be minus three turnover margin is not something

882
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: I would expect from Iowa State. Oklahoma could theoretically do

883
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: that Iowa State if they were going to be minus

884
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: three turnovers. I expect a three plus touchdown Oklahoma win.

885
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: And yet it was still right there on the number.

886
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: We had Iowa State plus six. We waited to bet

887
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: that game until we got six. Was talking to Brad

888
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: Powers actually from pregame among several other places, and I said, man,

889
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't know where this number is going to land.

890
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: It was five and a half. I was gonna give

891
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: it out on the Thursday show at five and a half,

892
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: and he said, I think six. I think it's going

893
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: to rest at six. So wait on it and waited

894
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: and it got to six and I handed it out

895
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty one finals. So we pushed there.

896
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: So we lost the conference title game, and we pushed.

897
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: I need you to pay attention to Oklahoma. I did

898
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: a segment in the offseason. I said, Lincoln Riley's gonna

899
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: win a national title at Oklahoma. A lot of you

900
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: didn't believe that, and you didn't believe it because you

901
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: have watched Oklahoma and the teams that you've seen Oklahoma

902
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: put on the field and in the playoffs. You don't

903
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: think are good enough to win national titles. And you're right.

904
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: I was making the point that I don't think that's

905
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 1: the style they're going to stick with. Did you watch

906
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Oklahoma yesterday? That Oklahoma Sooners team this year? It may

907
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: not be the best one he's ever had. This Oklahoma,

908
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: what they're evolving into now you're a couple of years

909
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: in with Alex Grinch at defensive coordinator. What they're evolving

910
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: into is going to be a team that looks a

911
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 1: lot more like what Alabama has looked like, what Clemson

912
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: has looked like. They can run the ball, they can

913
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: play solid defense. That's what they can do. Now they

914
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: are locking up another top ten class. Oklahoma's recruiting is

915
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: as well as they have in your lifetime. Right now,

916
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: they're knocking it out of the park. They're killing it

917
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: in Texas. They are recruiting at a very high level.

918
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: And it's not just fourteen wide receivers. They're recruiting on

919
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: the defensive line very well. They're recruiting defensive players very well.

920
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: They're not taking all the elite perimeter guys and just

921
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: putting them all at receiver Lincoln Riley knows what he's doing.

922
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: Oklahoma is going to be in serious contention for a

923
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: national championship next year. This is probably a precursor to that.

924
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: So watch Oklahoma love them next year. Oregon on Friday

925
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: Night beat USC thirty one to twenty four turnovers, ended

926
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: up doing it. We sat here on Tuesday night of

927
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: last week when I did the preview or Thursday night

928
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: for the game, and I did the preview and I said,

929
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: USC has been plus turnover margin all year. Oregon has

930
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: been minus turnover margin all year. That has led to

931
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: the final scores of their games. Obviously, those final scores

932
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: have led to the point spread on this game. Spread

933
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: was wrong. It was wrong. Southern cal was favored by

934
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: three and a half. We just thought it was wrong.

935
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: We took Oregon to cover, we took them to win.

936
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: And the reason is because turnovers are not predictive. Turnovers

937
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 1: are totally random. And when you got a team who's

938
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: been plus all year in a time who's been minus

939
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: all year, well guess what the odds are believe it

940
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: or not, in a one game scenario, that stuff's going

941
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: to even out, maybe even tilt Oregon. Sure enough, it

942
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: did usc minus two turnovers, Oregon fourteen points off turnovers.

943
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: Oregon won this thing and scored thirty one in the process.

944
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: They didn't even have two hundred and eighty total yards

945
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: of offense. So on top of that, Mario Christobau signed

946
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: a new deal with Oregon. So we got a PAC

947
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: twelve championship out there when you didn't even win the division,

948
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: by the way, and we got a head coach extended.

949
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: It turned into a surprisingly good week because at the

950
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: beginning of the week Oregon didn't even know they were

951
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: playing in the conference title game and they thought their

952
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: head coach maybe going to Auburn. And so you end

953
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: the week head coach is re upped. You got a

954
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: conference title. You didn't even know you were going to play.

955
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: For all's well in Eugene. Now, as for Ohio State,

956
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: they beat Northwestern twenty two to ten. This is how

957
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: you can afford it if you watch this game yesterday.

958
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: It was pretty boring, just to be honest with you.

959
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: If you watched this game, it's how you can afford

960
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: to play. Unfortunately, for Northwestern, it's how you can afford

961
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: to play if you know the opponent cannot score. And

962
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: it was very apparent Northwestern was never going to pull

963
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: away from Ohio State yesterday, and so Ohio State looked horrible.

964
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: They just looked terrible. They were discombobulated, disjointed offensively. But

965
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: yet you and I both knew watching that game, when's

966
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: it going to happen? When's the big series going to happen?

967
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: That was going to be. I felt like there was

968
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: going to be about a five to seven minute period

969
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: in that game where there're gonna be a couple of

970
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State touchdowns and that would be that. And that's

971
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. And twenty two to ten is the final.

972
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: And Ryan Day is a better man than me. I

973
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: would have punched it in at the end. I would have,

974
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: knowing that all this stuff's being looked at very critically,

975
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: I would have punched it in. He didn't. Though, here's

976
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: the problem I have with Ohio State. We got a

977
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 1: lot of time before we predict the semi final game

978
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: against Clemson. They don't they lack a killer instinct. Trey Sermon,

979
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: for instance, that's a guy who has a killer instinct.

980
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: He had twenty nine runs for over three hundred and

981
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: thirty yards yesterday. He averaged he had twenty nine carries

982
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: and he averaged eleven point four yards per carry in

983
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: a conference title game against a pretty darn good defense

984
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: in Northwestern. Trey Sermon's the kind of guy you know

985
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: when he's running it and then glaring at the sideline saying,

986
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: give me the ball more. That's the kind of guy

987
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: you want. You just need a whole lot more of them.

988
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State doesn't have a whole lot more Trey Sermon mentally, physically.

989
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: They got freaks everywhere. They got five star and four

990
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: star guys everywhere. That mentality, that's what you need in

991
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: your locker room. I don't know where it is with

992
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: Ohio State, but I will say this, and this is

993
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 1: why I have some hope for them in the playoff.

994
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: Just as we told you with Oregon, we were picking

995
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: them based on what they hadn't done yet, play a

996
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: complete game. Ohio State hasn't played their complete game yet either,

997
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: and so normally by the time if you've gotten to

998
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: a conference title game, if you hadn't you played a

999
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: complete game, you're just not going to do it. But

1000
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: that's a normal year. Ohio State is where you would

1001
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: normally be on the schedule in like mid October. Some

1002
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: teams don't even peak until early November. In a normal year,

1003
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: Ohio State's only played six games, so maybe they're just

1004
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: now getting to that point where in a normal year

1005
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: that'd be hitting their stride. The only difference is it's

1006
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,959
Speaker 1: really weird because they're now in the playoff. If their

1007
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: complete game is still ahead of them, they got a

1008
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: shot to beat Clemson. If we get the product that

1009
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: we've seen so far, Clemson is going to have a

1010
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: whole lot of fun in New Orleans in two weeks.

1011
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: That's just the way that is, all right. We got

1012
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: some stuff happening, happening very quickly, actually, so let me

1013
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: rearrange my papers here because I want to get these

1014
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: quotes right. Things may be happening at Tennessee. I know

1015
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: there was a lot going on yesterday. It was conference

1016
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: championship Saturday. And then if you're not a Tennessee fan,

1017
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: you were either pulling for your team in the playoff

1018
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: or you were watching the playoff selection process happen, and

1019
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: you may not have been paying attention to what's happening

1020
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: in Knoxville. There may be moves coming. There may be

1021
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: movement with Jeremy Pruett. Now I'm gonna tell you what

1022
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: I know, and I'm gonna tell you what I don't know, Okay,

1023
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna remind you where I've been this year

1024
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,479
Speaker 1: on prewit. But it's been mainly in principle. I've done

1025
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: a lot of radio with Trey Wallace and the guys

1026
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: in Knoxville, and it's been in principle this year. I

1027
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: told you guys on this show, and I've reiterated it

1028
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: when I've done radio in Knoxville. It has nothing to

1029
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: do with Prewitt. I said, with all of college football.

1030
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: If I don't view your coach as being on the

1031
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: hot seat before the season begins, there's nothing that can

1032
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: happen in twenty twenty short of scandal. Bookmark that, short

1033
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: of scandal, that can make me change my mind. I'm

1034
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: just allowing twenty twenty to be a throwaway year. I

1035
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: decided that before the first games happened, because I knew

1036
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: things were going to get emotional, as they always do,

1037
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: and no one thinks straight when you're emotional. So now

1038
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: things are emotional, and a lot of folks may not

1039
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: be thinking straight. Having said that, there is a new

1040
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: wrench that has made thrown into things. So yesterday our

1041
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: guys over at Fanrunradio dot com report that the Tennessee

1042
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: football program is being investigated by the NCAA and their

1043
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: own internal compliance department for recruiting violations and impermissible benefits.

1044
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: Few things to note here. Number One, it is fair

1045
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,479
Speaker 1: to say that Jeremy Pruitt has not felt the full

1046
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: support behind the scenes that he thinks he deserves. I

1047
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: think that's fair to say. Reading the tea leaves. Number two,

1048
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say some of those supporters

1049
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: that he wants behind him have looked at the results

1050
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: on the field and they don't like what they see.

1051
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: So you have maybe some butting of heads there. Number Three,

1052
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: this report was very conveniently timed. I think there's a

1053
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: lot of merit to the speculation that a lot of

1054
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: you had yesterday. Keep in mind, this did not seem

1055
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: to come from a rival coaching staff or anything like that.

1056
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: It's an internal investment digation. It's happening inside the four

1057
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: walls of Tennessee right now. Therefore, folks who know about

1058
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: it are at Tennessee. The folks who could deliver that

1059
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: information for a report are inside Tennessee. And if someone's

1060
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: inside Tennessee that doesn't like where things are and they

1061
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: have the motivation to leak this, then you can put

1062
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: two and two together and realize that you know there's

1063
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: things in these contracts a lot of reasons that you

1064
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: don't make a move or buy out related. Well, if

1065
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: you got some cause, maybe you can make a move.

1066
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: Now that's pure speculation. We don't know, and that includes me.

1067
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's the case, but I would

1068
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: be lying if I told you I didn't think that

1069
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: along with you. When I saw the timing of this

1070
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: report right before kickoff of the final game of the year,

1071
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: where Prouit doesn't really even have time to respond to it,

1072
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: got a game to play. He's asked about it postgame.

1073
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: He acts like he's taken by surprise, even though I

1074
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: can assure you he probably wasn't taken by surprise. So

1075
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: where are we at right now? Well, I would advise

1076
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: you to be very careful with just accepting consensus as fact.

1077
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: A lot of time in recruiting, in coaching searches, in rumors,

1078
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: and in the window maybe leading to a coaching change,

1079
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: a lot of times there is very little information out there.

1080
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: There are very few actual facts, but there is an

1081
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: really an unquenchable thirst for information, and so something's got

1082
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: to fill that void. We got little in the way

1083
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 1: of fact, we got a ton in the way of interest.

1084
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: So some people find it and take it upon themselves

1085
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: to make things up. And then, since you don't have

1086
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: any real information coming out, then you latch onto something

1087
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: you read on a message board or something you saw

1088
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and it can get carried a long long way,

1089
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: and it can get regurgitated and aggregated by a whole

1090
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: lot of people. Be careful with that because then it

1091
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: turns into consensus, and you think, since you've heard thirty

1092
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,479
Speaker 1: seven people say it, it's got to be true. There's

1093
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: one going around right now. Jeremy Prutz is not happy

1094
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: at Tennessee. He really wants out. Do you know that

1095
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I talked to several people around

1096
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: Tennessee today, None of them know that. I'm just telling

1097
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: you it could be true, but it ain't true because

1098
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: you saw it on Twitter. I can promise you that

1099
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: number two, I will tell you what I have heard

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00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: and what I do know. I think that that staff

1101
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: is very uneasy right now. A lot of folks in

1102
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: the coaching world who have contacts there would go as

1103
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: far as to tell you they think moves are coming.

1104
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: Staff moves certainly are coming. I think that's all but inevitable.

1105
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys who if the reporting

1106
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: has been correct on this, and I have no reason

1107
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: to believe it hasn't I know the folks who are

1108
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: behind the reporting on this, so I certainly have every

1109
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: reason to believe it's valid and accurate. If that reporting

1110
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: is accurate, then certainly you would expect staff moves. Does

1111
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: that include the head coach? That's the big question. Is

1112
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: Pruit going to be given some kind of ultimatum you

1113
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 1: got to get rid of these guys or you're gone.

1114
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: Where does he stand on all this? Where does Phil

1115
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: Fullmer stand on all this? Cause Pruit's guy is full

1116
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: or well, Fullmer's guy is Pruit, And you got to

1117
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: You've got to wonder how attached at the hip they are.

1118
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: And you got to also wonder, you know, where does

1119
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: Phil Filmer stand period right now? Like what is his stock?

1120
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: What is his status around there is the athletic director

1121
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 1: right now? And third question, out of about a million questions,

1122
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: what kind of timeline. I was asking that folks that

1123
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: today that would know, and none of them know. We're

1124
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: past the early signing date, We're after the end of

1125
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: the season. You know, there is no line in the

1126
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: sand where if we're going to do something, we got

1127
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: to get it done by that point. There really isn't

1128
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: that right now. Could be the new year, could be tomorrow,

1129
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: could be February twenty seventh. I have no clue, and

1130
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: a lot of folks who I know to be knowledgeable

1131
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: of Tennessee Athletics, they don't really know right now either.

1132
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: So if you've got folks out there telling you they

1133
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: know what's going on, hats off to them. Maybe they

1134
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: do know, I would just very thoroughly vet them, very thoroughly.

1135
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: That would be my advice to you. Meanwhile, at Auburn,

1136
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: the coaching search is entering a very critical forty eight

1137
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: to seventy two hour period. As I've told you, never

1138
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: speak in days when it comes to coaching searches and recruiting.

1139
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: Only speak ins of hour intervals twenty four thirty six,

1140
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: forty eight, seventy two, ninety six. If you want to

1141
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: really get out there towards the end of the week,

1142
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: can go the one hundred and twenty hour down the

1143
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: road model. That's mainly for like the GFS and euro

1144
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: tracking for meteorology. But it's Intervieweek at Auburn. Intervieweek is here. Now.

1145
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: Our folks over at Auburn Undercover dot com have reported

1146
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian's going to get interviewed. Alabama offensive coordinator Kevin

1147
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 1: Steele of course going to get an interview. Brent Venables,

1148
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator from Clemson. Billy Napier been really quiet down there.

1149
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: So Billy Napier at Louisiana, he's going to get an

1150
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: interview here. Now, I told you late last week I

1151
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: had been hearing that Neil Brown was a serious contender.

1152
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: He's the current head coach at West Virginia, he was

1153
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: at Troy before that. He knows that area very well.

1154
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: The folks over at Auburn Undercover reported that today. So

1155
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: that's a second confirmation just past little old me that's

1156
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: telling you, Yeah, Neil Brown's in this. Bill Clark, according

1157
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: to our folks over at Auburn Undercover UAB, he will

1158
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: get an interview. Tony Elliott, offensive coordinator at Clemson, not

1159
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: going to get an interview. I think they reported he

1160
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: has declined, so I'm shady on the details there, but

1161
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: it looks like Elliott is out. That's according to Urburn

1162
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: Undercover dot com. So I want to touch on Bill

1163
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: Clark for a second. I'm from the South. Bill Clark

1164
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: is from the South. He has been at UAB and

1165
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: then they shut down the program, and then they decided

1166
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: to have a program again, and now he's winning again.

1167
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: Everyone in the South that wants to prove their football

1168
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: IQ to you, they all go to the same well.

1169
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: They all tell you, yeah, Saban's good, but man, you

1170
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: know who's really good, Bill Clark. And they're counting on

1171
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: you not knowing who Bill Clark is, so then they

1172
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: can really impress you with the fact that they know

1173
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: a lot about University of Alabama Birmingham football, and really,

1174
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: if you pressed him on it, they wouldn't know all

1175
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: that much because they're really they really just know Bill

1176
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: Clark does an amazing job, which he does. I'm not

1177
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: ragning on Bill Clark. I love the guy like he's incredible,

1178
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: But that's the first thing that people down in the

1179
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: South do. Second thing that people who are actually plugged

1180
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: in in the South will do is. They'll tell you

1181
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: it'd be really hard to ever get Bill Clark away

1182
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: from UAB. There are several different reasons for that. It's

1183
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: pretty unique structure there, so there are several different reasons

1184
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: for that. But the bottom line is it's long been

1185
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: thought he's not leaving UAB. He's going to be there

1186
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: unless just the perfect opportunity presents itself. Has anything changed there?

1187
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no way of knowing that.

1188
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: I do not know Bill Clark personally. But when we're

1189
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: looking at him and then we zoom out and we

1190
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: look at all of these candidates, here's the thing that

1191
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: you need to ask, well, a couple of things. So first,

1192
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: how much are these interviews going to matter? Because there

1193
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: are a couple of schools of thought here with the

1194
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: Auburn coaching search, and one is they're all just window

1195
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: dressing and quota meeting. The other is it's a legitimate process.

1196
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: So how much has anything really changed? So there's a

1197
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: very popular narrative that Kevin Steele was the guy there.

1198
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: I think that that was partially the case, but I

1199
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: don't think he was the guy to the point where

1200
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: it was a foregone conclusion. Enough of the decision makers

1201
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: were ready to stamp their approval on it. I think

1202
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: there were just some people who really like Kevin Steele.

1203
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: So here's the question. Now you get into the interview process,

1204
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: Let's say for a second it is legitimate. The question

1205
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: you need to be asking, because this is the question

1206
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: candidates will ask, is how much control is Auburn University

1207
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: willing to give a football coach. Kirby Smart interviewed for

1208
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: this job several years ago. Kirby Smart wanted the job

1209
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: several years ago. Kirby Smart did not get this job

1210
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: because he demanded full control. He saw how his mentor,

1211
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, was doing things at Alabama. He knew he

1212
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: was going to have to compete against Nick Saban. Kirby

1213
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: Smart needed everything from Auburn that Georgia eventually gave. Kirby Smart.

1214
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: He knew, if I don't get all ten of these

1215
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: boxes checked, I'm never going to be able to beat him.

1216
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: It's going to be an uphill climb. It's going to

1217
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: be the fight of my life even if I do

1218
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: get all the boxes checked. But I'm not about to

1219
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: go into a place no matter how much money they're

1220
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: gonna pay me. I'm not about to go into a

1221
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: place with one arm handcuffed behind my back and yet

1222
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: be asked to beat Nick Saban. I'm not doing that.

1223
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart did not do that, and he ended up

1224
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: going to Georgia, and they've had success at Georgia. Steve

1225
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: Sarkeesian is going to ask for the same things Kirby

1226
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: Smart did. Brent Venables is going to ask for the

1227
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: same things Kirby Smart did. Any of these guys are

1228
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: they have options? Any guys with options are going to

1229
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: demand the sun, moon and stars, and if you give

1230
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: it to him, they may take the job. Therein lies

1231
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: My question is this process set up to check some

1232
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: boxes on Auburn's part, knowing full well these guys are

1233
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: going to demand everything, knowing full well we're not giving

1234
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: it to him. So we can say we gave it

1235
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,479
Speaker 1: the good old college tribe, but they wanted too much.

1236
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: So we're going with the guy we wanted all along.

1237
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: Because if you end up with Kevin Steele, for example,

1238
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: as your head coach, that's how it's gonna go. You're

1239
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: gonna be told not directly, You're gonna be told indirectly

1240
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: through leaks and whatnot. You're gonna be told. We interviewed

1241
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: Brent Venables, we interviewed Steve Sarkisian. They just, boy, they

1242
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: wanted too many things that we couldn't budge on. They're

1243
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: gonna want the same things that the other guys have.

1244
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: Are you willing to give it to him? Not you

1245
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: the decision makers at Auburn. Are they willing to give

1246
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: it to him? That's what's going to decide the Auburn

1247
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: coaching search. I don't know what the timetable there is either.

1248
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't think you'll have like a Christmas decision. Who

1249
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: knows that there have been far more Auburn things than

1250
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: that announcing a coach on Christmas, So we'll see how

1251
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,600
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1252
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,320
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1256
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1257
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Speaker 1: right now, watches our show over eighteen minutes. The average

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Speaker 1: viewer that's like cocaine to YouTube. When they look at that,

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Speaker 1: they just salivate. They love that. So thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for that, because you've allowed us to have a

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Speaker 1: lot of success on this platform and subscribe so we

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Speaker 1: can keep having the success. I am off to Georgia

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Speaker 1: for the week, so looking forward to that. Aside from

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Speaker 1: the five hour drive that waits to meet tonight. So

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Speaker 1: for director Colin, for producer Jordan. On the podcast side

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Speaker 1: of things, I'm Josh Pate. Have yourselves a great, we

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Speaker 1: merry Christmas, have fun with your families, enjoy the bowl

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Speaker 1: games you do get, And the next time we speak

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Speaker 1: live we will be previewing the college football playoff matchups.

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Speaker 1: Until then, have a great weeknd up