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Speaker 5: a little true or false guys, looking back at some

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Speaker 5: of the big games and storylines on Wednesday night. Yannis

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Speaker 5: thirty eight points, sixteen boards, nine assists helped lead the

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Speaker 5: Bucks to the one twenty nine, one four victory over

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Speaker 5: But after the win, jan Has told ESPN's George Sadano

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Speaker 5: Yiannis can still get better.

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Speaker 6: He can't be good at everything.

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Speaker 8: He can't be great at everything, so I don't know,

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Speaker 2: He's improved his three point shooting to.

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Speaker 5: and yeah, hitting four in one game, that's going to

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Speaker 2: That's mind boggling.

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Speaker 5: He wins MVP and he's already gotten better here over

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Speaker 5: I think this is true. You're right task that he

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Speaker 5: good example right now still with Gianness, even as great

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Speaker 5: Giannis is gonna have the ball, but can he without

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Speaker 5: don't see a lot still from you. Honest, if he.

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Speaker 2: Adds that, it is over, it's over. I'm with your trade.

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Speaker 5: The three awesome if you've got it, But that to me,

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Speaker 5: the that's the next next level for you, honest. But

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Speaker 5: the guys, guy's averaging twenty nine to fourteen, nearly eight

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Speaker 2: It's I mean, it is numbers wise.

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Speaker 6: He can't get better it really, it doesn't feel like

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Speaker 6: he can. No, it's just paulishing like you said, within

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Speaker 6: And he can get there basically every possession, but there's

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Speaker 6: gonna be multiple guys. That's what the Eastern Conference Finals

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Speaker 6: without passing out and Trey brought it up in the offseason.

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Speaker 6: Maybe needs to add a skyhook.

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Speaker 1: Learn that skyhook.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's something, there's something there. It's it's either it's

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Speaker 6: Kareem sitting on our floor because we're too lazy to

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Speaker 6: hang things on our wall right now, or you gotta

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Speaker 6: go Tim Duncan, dinker and dumper just find the touch

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Speaker 6: in close and or just have that confidence to shoot that.

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Speaker 6: Because that didn't happen. He also was kind of reluctant

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Speaker 6: and started passing out to Brook Lopez and Chris Middleton,

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Speaker 6: and that's I think the next level is just hey,

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Speaker 6: official call it if it doesn't go in, or you know,

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Speaker 6: with him. But he's not. He's not a stopping pop

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think so because it shows to me

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: Reggie Miller, come on.

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Speaker 8: Dennis Rodman was a terrible free throw shooter. He didn't

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Speaker 8: he's taken too many threes. It's get inside. Gianas is inside, dominating,

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Speaker 2: Well, don't the best always add something new to their game.

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Speaker 5: Well, look he could. No one's gonna want him to

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Speaker 8: so he does have a minor injury. He was limping

434
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Speaker 8: all through the finals for some so supposedly he said

435
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Speaker 8: himself that he is feeling better this year. But to me, now,

436
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Speaker 8: this is more of a league issue than a player issue.

437
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Speaker 8: The players are obviously getting blasted. And if you're the league,

438
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Speaker 8: do you like having your best players year after year

439
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Speaker 8: after year not be able to finish an eighty two

440
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Speaker 8: game season. It happened with Kawhi, Now, it happened with Lebron,

441
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Speaker 8: it happened with Dwayne Wade. These are when literally the

442
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Speaker 8: best player in the game is not finishing an entire season,

443
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Speaker 8: and you know that going in. Maybe it's not the

444
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Speaker 8: player that's the problem. Maybe it's the league. Let's drop

445
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Speaker 8: some back to backs. Honestly, that is the solution. Don't

446
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Speaker 8: make it a choice where which game am I playing in?

447
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Speaker 8: This one or this one? Have one game that you're

448
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Speaker 8: playing in.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like Kawhi is sort of saying, I

450
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Speaker 1: just don't care though, I'm just going to play whenever

451
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Speaker 1: I feel like it. That's what it feels like. You know,

452
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Speaker 1: He's just saying, you know what, these these games I

453
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Speaker 1: just don't I just don't think I need to play

454
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Speaker 1: in all these games. And that's why I think, you know,

455
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Speaker 1: Doris was saying what she was saying, like it feels,

456
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Speaker 1: you know, so early into the season that he's already resting.

457
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Speaker 1: And he did that same thing last year. But you know,

458
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Speaker 1: I mean, if he's if he's injured, fine, you can't play,

459
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Speaker 1: that's fine. But it just feels like he's just like, nah,

460
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Speaker 1: I'm only going to play sixty games and that's it.

461
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Speaker 1: And I mean that is a problem for the league

462
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Speaker 1: because this is going to become a trend and now

463
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Speaker 1: the other guys are going to start going, yeah, that's

464
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Speaker 1: that's a smart thing to do if you if you

465
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Speaker 1: feel you're going to be playing, you know, an extra

466
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Speaker 1: games in the playoffs, because I expect Lebron and I

467
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Speaker 1: expect Anthony Davis will sit out some games this season

468
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Speaker 1: at some point, and that does become a big problem

469
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Speaker 1: for the league. If if the big stars just decide

470
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Speaker 1: we only have to turn up for three quarters of

471
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Speaker 1: the games if we feel like it, then it's going

472
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Speaker 1: to affect fans and it's going to affect TV rights

473
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Speaker 1: and all those things because people are going to feel

474
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Speaker 1: short changed. So but Kawhi doesn't care. He doesn't care

475
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Speaker 1: at all for sure, you know, and you know what

476
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Speaker 1: if this is in if this prolongs his career and

477
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Speaker 1: he wins the championship you know several times again, then

478
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Speaker 1: you know, fine, it works for him. But the problem

479
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Speaker 1: to me is that. It's just that it just feels like,

480
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Speaker 1: you know, he's just saying, I just don't I just

481
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Speaker 1: don't want to play all these games. And that's a problem.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you fix it.

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Speaker 5: Well, people seem to have a problem understanding the concept

484
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Speaker 5: of preventative care, because that's what this is they have.

485
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Speaker 5: They've literally just proved it last year with him, that

486
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Speaker 5: this idea when he had the quadricep tendon in the

487
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Speaker 5: one leg and then that and any under knows this

488
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Speaker 5: or anyone that plays sports knows this. You know, you

489
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Speaker 5: have one issue in one leg, let's say that can

490
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Speaker 5: lead to another issue in another part of your body.

491
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Speaker 5: And that's exactly what happened to with his other knee

492
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Speaker 5: because of sort of some sort of compensation that can happen.

493
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Speaker 5: It is pretty common.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there he is saying, this is going to.

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Speaker 5: Help obviously our chances to win a title this year,

496
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Speaker 5: which is the whole point of this damn thing. And

497
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Speaker 5: oh yeah, it might extend my career as well.

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Speaker 2: I saw it.

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Speaker 5: I believe it was Channing Fry with you task on handles.

500
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Speaker 5: Was he not talking about the idea of like when

501
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Speaker 5: he played with Brandon Roy. He's like, I sort of

502
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Speaker 5: wish Brandon Roy had done something like this and had

503
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Speaker 5: been a little more preventive and not sort of gone

504
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Speaker 5: out there and tried to play in every game, and

505
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Speaker 5: maybe we would have a you know, Brandon Roy would

506
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Speaker 5: have had a longer career.

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Speaker 6: That's totally true. It's yeah, easy to say that after

508
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Speaker 6: the fact that we look back and the guy was injured.

509
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Speaker 6: But the problem is when it comes to the NBA's

510
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Speaker 6: point of view, is that if this becomes a trend,

511
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Speaker 6: right now, it's an injured player. And you know, I

512
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Speaker 6: thought I thought it would definitely decrease from last year

513
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Speaker 6: because he was coming off again season where he played

514
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Speaker 6: nine games. But Trey brings up a good point. He

515
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Speaker 6: was limping in the postseason. Preventative care is real. I

516
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Speaker 6: just got my break fluid changed for what reason, no reason,

517
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Speaker 6: but it helps. It's in the book. I did it late,

518
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Speaker 6: of course, not gonna do it on time. But I

519
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Speaker 6: totally agree. Listen, if we go back to the guys

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Speaker 6: in the eighties and the nineties, and I said, it's

521
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Speaker 6: easy to say after the fact, Larry Bird wouldn't have

522
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Speaker 6: played that many games. He would have sat games if

523
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Speaker 6: he knew what players knew now, and you know Doris

524
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Speaker 6: Burk comes from from that mindset. I'm sure, and we

525
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Speaker 6: all want to see guys play, but Kawhi is an

526
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Speaker 6: isolated incident and we can look at him and say

527
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Speaker 6: that guy sits out because he's hurt. The problem I

528
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Speaker 6: think will be with the NBA is if it becomes

529
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Speaker 6: there's one guy on every team that plays sixty games,

530
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Speaker 6: and that's where the issue comes in. But the league

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Speaker 6: is trying to address it with having the fewest amount

532
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Speaker 6: of back to backs in a long time. They're down

533
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Speaker 6: to twelve point four back to backs per team this

534
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Speaker 6: and that's it's low compared to what it was five

535
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Speaker 6: years ago, which was over nineteen. There are no four

536
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Speaker 6: games in five nights. But it sounds like we're getting

537
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Speaker 6: to a point where we have to decide eighty two

538
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Speaker 6: games or no back to backs, or we're gonna pab

539
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Speaker 6: be playing a regular season games into May and then

540
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Speaker 6: the championship is awarded in July, or you know, you

541
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Speaker 6: swing it the other way and this season starts in September.

542
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's gonna be one or the other, or

543
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Speaker 6: you shorten this thing, right like that that's it makes

544
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Speaker 6: the most sense.

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Speaker 1: If the Raptors lose to the Sixes in the second

546
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Speaker 1: round last year, then the conversation I think is different

547
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Speaker 1: because it's like.

548
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Speaker 6: Oh, it didn't work. Yeah, it didn't work.

549
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Speaker 1: So hey, if was in seven games, you couldn't even

550
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Speaker 1: get past the second round. That to me, the fact

551
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Speaker 1: they went on to win the championships that we'll see

552
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Speaker 1: it works.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why sports arguments are so dumb, because it's

554
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Speaker 6: so black and white. Because Kawhi Leonard's ball that bounces

555
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 6: four times off the rim, hey bounces five and it

556
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Speaker 6: pops out. Sixers go to win in the overtime. As

557
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Speaker 6: you say, Lee, it didn't work. That old thing didn't work.

558
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Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, it's not. It's not black and white.

559
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Speaker 6: It's not an indicator of it working. But you're right

560
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Speaker 6: about the preventive maintenance skits.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 6: It's true, chenneyfer. I brought up Brandon roy and and

563
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Speaker 6: hell yeah, even Greg Odin. I mean, there's a bunch

564
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Speaker 6: of guys now that you can say it would have

565
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Speaker 6: been nice if they if they even And I bring

566
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Speaker 6: up Larry Bird like I had a really short career.

567
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 6: Isaiah Thomas way too short a career. There's there's there's

568
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Speaker 6: so many guys you can look back and say and uh,

569
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Speaker 6: and I guess we're accepting of Joel Embiid also manages

570
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Speaker 6: his load because he's a big, big body. Five six games,

571
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Speaker 6: that's cool, but when it comes to fifteen games, it

572
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Speaker 6: didn't work.

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Speaker 1: He also missed He also missed two years to start

574
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Speaker 1: his career, so he came in, you know, injured. Yeah,

575
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Speaker 1: there's a difference that there's a difference to Kway's. He

576
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Speaker 1: wasn't injured coming into his career. Well maybe he was.

577
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Speaker 1: Who knows. With this this chronic thigh injury that he's had,

578
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Speaker 1: He's apparently had it for a long time. But you

579
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Speaker 1: know that that's the thing. It just comes down to

580
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Speaker 1: me the fact that the argument for it is it

581
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Speaker 1: worked for the Raptors, so he gets to do whatever

582
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Speaker 1: he wants and the Clippers, you know, a part of

583
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Speaker 1: their sales pitch to him was, I'm sure, hey, Kawi,

584
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Speaker 1: you can tell us when you're playing. You know, they

585
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Speaker 1: want to make sure that they managed him to the

586
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Speaker 1: point where they weren't saying no, we expect you to

587
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Speaker 1: play every single game if you're healthy, So you know,

588
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: the Clippers are like, we'll do whatever you want. But

589
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Speaker 1: the fact they're now oh and two without him, that's

590
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Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see if that changes any

591
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Speaker 1: of them mentality.

592
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Speaker 2: Okay, a couple board things here.

593
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Speaker 5: One, it just drives me nuts these people that we've

594
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Speaker 5: been seeing over the last day that jump up on

595
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 5: their soapbox and say, oh, these players are soft. This

596
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 5: is ridiculous. They would never do this in this sport.

597
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 5: And Larry Bird would never do this. I literally heard

598
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Speaker 5: that from mad Dog Russol Larry Bird. He just kept saying,

599
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 5: Larry Bird, Larry Bird, he would never do this. What

600
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Speaker 5: drives me insane. There's a lot of these people that

601
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Speaker 5: are shouting this the loudest will not be watching the

602
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 5: game anyway, nor would they have been watching if Kawhi

603
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Speaker 5: was even playing. They're fake fans. They just are doing

604
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Speaker 5: this to get the clicks. That drives me insane. And

605
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Speaker 5: then the whole other part in Trey, you sort of

606
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 5: slipped it in there.

607
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Speaker 6: You sound like, yeah, you sound like a mad dog, right.

608
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. No, I'm a temper boy right now. The

609
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: other thing was Trey you slipped it in.

610
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Speaker 5: No One, very few people were making any sort of

611
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 5: noise Last year when this exact same thing was happening

612
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Speaker 5: with Kawhi when he was up in Toronto and those

613
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Speaker 5: Toronto Raptors were not on ESPN on Wednesday night. Well,

614
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Speaker 5: then no one cared. It wasn't a big deal. It

615
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Speaker 5: really really was it. We talked about it for like

616
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Speaker 5: a second and then we're like, okay, that's fine, moving on.

617
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Speaker 2: No one cared.

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Speaker 6: There was a difference of him coming off a season

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Speaker 6: where he played nine games, so.

620
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Speaker 5: Just because of that, Okay, so you're just saying because

621
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Speaker 5: now he's a year removed and he went on to

622
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Speaker 5: become the best player in the league, Everyone's like, why

623
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Speaker 5: are you just playing it every night? Right?

624
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Speaker 2: That's fair?

625
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, won he won the stinking title. But there seems

626
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Speaker 6: to be a chronic injury, and I'm not definitely right,

627
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Speaker 6: How is.

628
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Speaker 5: It surprising that he's doing this, that he's not playing

629
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Speaker 5: in back to backs when he just did it for

630
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Speaker 5: a year. So we're just, I guess to assume it's

631
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Speaker 5: supposed to stop, right at some point?

632
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Speaker 8: To some degree, Yeah, I think people did assume that

633
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 8: it would stop because he said his body feels great,

634
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 8: his body feels better going into this year than it

635
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 8: did last year, and clearly the LA spotlight is yeah,

636
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 8: super different.

637
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Speaker 6: I don't know.

638
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Speaker 8: I imagine a lot of people got pretty tired last

639
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 8: night during that Clippers game and went to bed because

640
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Speaker 8: they didn't want to stay up and watch it.

641
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Speaker 6: It was a good game, though, Yeah.

642
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Speaker 8: It was a great game. But that's load management, going

643
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 8: to bed when you're tired.

644
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Speaker 2: No different, great, We can talk about this all day.

645
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: Let's move on here, though, guys.

646
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 5: Lebron's Lakers have emerged as the betting favorites to win

647
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 5: the title in June. Caesar's Sportsbook updated their odds yesterday.

648
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 5: The Lakers currently own plus three hundred odds, so you

649
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 5: bet one hundred dollars to win three hundred dollars, while

650
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 5: the Clippers are now in second at plus three point fifty,

651
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 5: then the Sixers and Bucks at plus six hundred behind them.

652
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 5: Trure false, guys, truly in the season here, but trure false.

653
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 5: The Lakers should be considered the title favorites.

654
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: True, Yeah, true? Why not? Oh yeah? Why not? So

655
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: fass so good. They've been brilliant after that opening, not

656
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: lost the time the Clippers. Other than that, they've been fantastic.

657
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: They've been doing it on the defensive end. Lebron's been great,

658
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis has been very good for them. Yeah, they've

659
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: they've been very very impressive. Things have come together very

660
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: quickly for them, and I've been I mean that game

661
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: against the Bulls the other night, two nights ago, it

662
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: looked like the Lakers were like, they looked at the

663
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: Bulls and they're like, you know, we don't really need

664
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: to get up for this game. And then they realized

665
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: the Bulls were serious, and then the Lakers said, all right,

666
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: it's time to win, and they went out and got

667
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: that win. So, you know, the game against the Mavericks,

668
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: they were down being they came back against the Spurs,

669
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: always a tough opponent, and they seem to find a

670
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: way to win. So yeah, right now, I mean I

671
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: was skeptical about how good they could be immediately, but

672
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: they've proved me wrong and they look fantastic. So yeah,

673
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: I would have them favorite right now. But it's what November?

674
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: What are we just six seven seven?

675
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 6: Listen. I think the Clippers are the better team, But

676
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 6: when it comes to these odds, this is representative of

677
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 6: what people think and who they're betting on, and people

678
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 6: are betting on the team that's not managing their load.

679
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 6: I think that's what it really comes down to. The

680
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 6: Slippers have not overwhelmed people because their best player is

681
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 6: sitting out and their second best player isn't playing. So

682
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 6: that's why the money is going on the Lakers. That's

683
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 6: why they have to be the favorite. That's why Vegas

684
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 6: is making sure that all the money that's being paid

685
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 6: out is going to be equal. So the Lakers are

686
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 6: the favorites now. When Kawhi and Paul George go on

687
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 6: to run, it's going to be different, and I think

688
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 6: they will go on to run because one through twelve.

689
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 6: You look how they play the Bucks without their top

690
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 6: two players, literally without their top two players on Wednesday Night,

691
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 6: down to the wire. Yeah, because they play harder up

692
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 6: and down the roster than the Lakers do. Even though

693
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 6: you know the Lakers are showing out, they've been very impressive.

694
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 6: I still think they're the better team in LA.

695
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 5: Right.

696
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 8: These guys are very smart and I have nothing to

697
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 8: add that's one hundred percent correct. The Lakers have been

698
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 8: impressive to start the season. All of their veteran guys

699
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 8: that they brought in I think have maybe exceeded expectations

700
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 8: a little. Kyle Kuzma's back, They're just a healthier team.

701
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 8: They're playing a little bit better right now. So if

702
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 8: you were talking about no better Umber seventh, yeah, they're

703
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 8: probably the title favorite. But come end of the year,

704
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 8: after those loads have been managed and those guys are

705
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 8: feeling fresh, I would still roll.

706
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: With the cliffs.

707
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 5: I think I have to say true as well. The

708
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 5: Lakers are the best defense in the league right now.

709
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 5: That's a massive, massive shock that's going to definitely help

710
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 5: the Anthony Davis for a Defensive Player of the Year chances.

711
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 5: Lebron's engaged, they're all dweight. It's been amazing. Well, we

712
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 5: talked about him a couple of times. So yeah, right now,

713
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 5: November seventh, that is true, Caesar Sports Book.

714
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: They know what they're doing.

715
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: No internal chaos there either with the Lakers, like, no

716
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: drama so far so far that Yeah, Rondo hasn't played,

717
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: so you know he'll he'll he'll shake things up a bit,

718
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: but you know that that's that's one of the things

719
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: that comes with the Lakers that there tends to be. Yeah,

720
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: well Lebron, yeah, so so far, so good for them,

721
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: and and you know, because remember Kevin Love when he

722
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: joined Lebron, and there was a you know, Lebron sort

723
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: of had a bit of a shot at him on Twitter,

724
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: like a don't fit out, Yeah, yeah, sort of thing,

725
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, and this Instagram picture. And remember, of course

726
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: in Miami it took them a while to get things going.

727
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: But this is clearly the best thinging with a superstar

728
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: that Lebron's been on that that's gotten off to a

729
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: pretty much faultless stot.

730
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 6: You would have to say, so, yeah, there could be

731
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 6: fires that kindle in so many areas of that locker room, right,

732
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 6: Rondo versus the other point guards, Dwight Howard versus everybody

733
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 6: who doesn't.

734
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: Like farching stuff.

735
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 6: Jason Kidd versus Frank Vogel. Yeah, watching Jason Kitty's been

736
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 6: very quiet.

737
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's work.

738
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. What happened?

739
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 5: What happens if they go on a yeah, three or

740
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 5: four game losing streak, what happens then? And yeah, what

741
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 5: does what does Lebron start tweeting or instagramming about? But

742
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 5: right now six and one, best defense in the league,

743
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 5: they're laughing, all right? Final one here, guys, Eric Bledsoe,

744
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 5: he had a brain fart for the Ages. In last

745
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 5: night's Bucks Clippers game, early in the fourth quarter, the

746
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 5: referee handed Bledsoe the ball out of bounds, and Bledsoe

747
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 5: just decided to put the ball in play by dribbling

748
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 5: into the court. You forgot to pass it. It's a

749
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 5: pretty funny clip. So true or false, no one had

750
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 5: a worse Wednesday night than Eric Bledsoe because you got

751
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 5: the shacked in treatment.

752
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's true. Who did something like that

753
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: that that would be well and I guess not a

754
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: whoopsie because it wasn't on the weekend, but that would

755
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: be in one of our awards for what would it

756
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: be the year?

757
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 8: I mean, if they throw the shooting Stars treatment on it,

758
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 8: you can go you're talking about it meme to you possibly.

759
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But that's that's one for the Ages. That's

760
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: so hard to figure out exactly how we did that,

761
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you played basketball that

762
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: much in your life and you just decide, yeah, you know.

763
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 6: I'm just going yeah it like he thinks it's July

764
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 6: and it's a pick up run.

765
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, nobody inbound steel.

766
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 6: I'm just taking off.

767
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you guys think true or false? Anyone

768
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 5: else have a worse Wednesday night? Really is the question.

769
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: I'll go false.

770
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 8: Aaron Gordon had a tough last minute of the game

771
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 8: against the Mavericks last night. Back to back offensive files,

772
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 8: and honestly, they both seem like offensive files. The one

773
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 8: in the lane Dori Infinty Smith I thought, beat him

774
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 8: to the lane, beat him to the spot, got knocked down.

775
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 2: That one looked like a charge.

776
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 8: And then the one out on the right wing sort

777
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 8: of a boy the three point line. He got called

778
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 8: for the extending arm push off, which you see called

779
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 8: all the time as an offensive foul. But Aaron Gordon

780
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 8: had a pretty good first half, didn't show out quite

781
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 8: as much in the second half. But two offensive files

782
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 8: to foul out while your team is in a one

783
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 8: possession game is a tough look.

784
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that is watching. I agree, because they

785
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 6: finally scored one hundred points. This team is the last

786
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 6: team to score one hundred points in the NBA. In

787
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 6: Game eight. It took them to score one hundred points.

788
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 6: It's just such a confounding team because Aaron Gordon so

789
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 6: much talent in that body. He finally has a good

790
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 6: game shooting ball. He came in averaging twelve points per game.

791
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 6: He's making big money. He's ridiculously talented. They've got an

792
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 6: All star in Nikolovucevic. Up and down the russ They've

793
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 6: got talent. But now they're sitting at two and six.

794
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 6: They just they can't put it together at any point.

795
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 6: And fourn is not Fournie, So yeah, it's kind of

796
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 6: odd watching them. And then Aaron Gordon definitely should have

797
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 6: got called for those two calls. The MAVs can play

798
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 6: d and they stepped up and played that defense in

799
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 6: Aaron Gordon, that's that's sort of his problem. He's trying

800
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 6: to create off the bounce. Like you said, started off

801
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 6: nice ten for seventeen twenty three. That's double his season average.

802
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 6: Twenty three points there basically, but strange, strange ending there

803
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 6: in that game.

804
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 5: I think Tim Hardaway Junior maybe sold the second one

805
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 5: a little bit. Oh yes, he just lost his balance

806
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 5: but he went flying and I'm not sure Aaron Gordon

807
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 5: extended his arm that far on him, but yeah, that's true.

808
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 8: It was just right in front of the rapt. Yes,

809
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 8: that's a poor plays to extend the.

810
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: Arm, that's right.

811
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 5: And then and the MAVs were trying to give this

812
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 5: game to the Magic too. That's the other part of this,

813
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 5: Like they had a couple brutal turnovers in the final

814
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 5: minute of the game when they had the one point lead.

815
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 5: Seth Curry missed two free throws late, and then Vucevic

816
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 5: had a pretty good look, pretty open three point shot

817
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 5: at the end and just didn't knock it down, and

818
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 5: so the Mavericks somehow escaped with that. It was a weird,

819
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 5: weird ending in that one. We got some news here

820
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 5: as guys. Simmons left Wednesday's game in Utah with a

821
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 5: sprained ac joint in his right shoulder. He's going to

822
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 5: be reevaluated today. He appeared to injure the shoulder in

823
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 5: the first quarter when he collided with Royce O'Neill while

824
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 5: turning with the ball in the post, sort of banged

825
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 5: into him.

826
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: He passed it.

827
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 5: Back after contact, grabbed that shoulder and obviously didn't play

828
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 5: a ton in this game. Utah went on to win

829
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 5: this game one O six, one O four. But yes,

830
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 5: and being comes back and in the same game or

831
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 5: that the right when he's back there. Not long after

832
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 5: Ben Simmons out with the shoulder injury cause for concern

833
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 5: here or just you know, just like a stinger type

834
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 5: of thing.

835
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: What do you think, Probably a little more than a stinger,

836
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: because he sort of definitely looked like it was sort

837
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: of wobbling and shaking a little bit there and he

838
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: had to come out straight away. The question is is

839
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: that his shooting arm or not. We're not sure.

840
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 6: No one knows.

841
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, but obviously if he is out for an

842
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: extended period, then that that's a that's a blow to

843
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: the to the Sixers for sure, because he's been great

844
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: so far this season. But yeah, one of those weird

845
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: injuries that didn't look all that bad, but the fact

846
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: that he was going and they pretty much ruled him

847
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: out straight away on pretty once he got to the

848
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: locker room, they said he's not coming back. So hopefully

849
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: it is only something that's in mine up. But I

850
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: guess we're white in the next twenty four a's and

851
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: here a little bit.

852
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 8: More decent timing though for the Sixers. Over the next

853
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 8: two weeks. They've got the Hornets, they've got the Calves twice,

854
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 8: they've got the Magic who are struggling a little bit

855
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 8: right now, and they've got the Knicks. So if you're

856
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 8: going to be missing one of your best players, at

857
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 8: least there's some bad teams to try and beat up

858
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 8: on that.

859
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: That's fair.

860
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 5: Jazz look good in this one though, did well on

861
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 5: the boards, took control in the third quarter behind Donovan Mitchell.

862
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: He really sparked a run.

863
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 5: Conley starting to get it going, Bogdanovich a little bit,

864
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 5: starting to get it going. I think the Jazz are

865
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 5: slowly but surely here starting to find the right footing.

866
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Speaker 5: Conley had been brutal over the first four games. I mean,

867
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Speaker 5: he was shooting like twenty percent and now has at

868
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 5: least bumped it up to a more reasonable like forty

869
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Speaker 5: three percent over the last four games.

870
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Speaker 2: But what did you guys?

871
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Speaker 5: Were you guys impressed with what you saw from the

872
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 5: Jazz pulling out that win despite you know, Ben Simmons

873
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 5: going out for the Sixers.

874
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Speaker 1: Well, they're a good home team. They've been there, unbeaten

875
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: at home so far this season, so they do definitely

876
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: have an advantage there. But there's something not quite right

877
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: about them yet. They haven't got that haven't gotten into

878
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: the flow. I don't think that we expected them to

879
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: be one of the top two or three teams in

880
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: the Western Conference so far, because you know, when you

881
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: lose Simmons like that, you expect the Jazz to sort

882
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: of be able to take that game away from I

883
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: know they've still got some very good players, Hawford and Embiid,

884
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: but I'm waiting for the Jazz to sort of get

885
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: it together. And I think part of that is Mike Conley,

886
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: you know, just getting him used to that system because

887
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: he has struggled it. Once he gets it going, I

888
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,479
Speaker 1: think the Jazz are going to improve a lot. But yeah,

889
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: so far, you know, their defense has been very good,

890
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: as it always is, but offensively things aren't. Things just

891
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: aren't quite clicking as yet as I'm not sure what

892
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: they're trying to do there with Donovan Mitchell. Is Connley

893
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: trying to be the point guard and Donovan playing off

894
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: it or is it sometimes just Donovan's like, you know what,

895
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Speaker 1: I'm just going to be the point guard like a

896
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Speaker 1: James Harden, Because it seems it seems a little bit

897
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: like that to me that they haven't quite figured out

898
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: that role yet for Counley and Mitchell to share the ball.

899
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: That's just my observation of it.

900
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question.

901
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 8: You know. It's the Jazz have had a lot of

902
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 8: continuity over the years, so it's not super surprising that

903
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 8: on the offensive end they would still be trying to

904
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 8: find out a way to make everybody click, especially when

905
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 8: you're adding a Conley to Donovan Mitchell, also Boy and Bogdanovitch.

906
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 8: These are guys who can handle the ball and pass

907
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 8: the ball and create a little bit on their own.

908
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 8: It's kind of been all Donovan and Ricky Rubio in

909
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 8: the past, and Rubio, as we know, isn't just looking to.

910
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 6: Pop from the outside.

911
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 8: So I don't know, the Jazz just seemed to start slow.

912
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: To me.

913
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Speaker 8: Rudy Gobert comes into every season angry. Remember last year

914
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 8: he smacked that water bottle off the table.

915
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 2: Last year it.

916
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 8: Was complaining about the defense because they weren't allowed to

917
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 8: foul anymore. Once the rules loosened up, they got used

918
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 8: to playing with each other. The offense or the defense

919
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 8: picked up and they were able to become the Jazz

920
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 8: that were used to. I imagine the same thing will

921
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 8: happen on the flip flop. They'll get to be a

922
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 8: better offensive team as they learn how to fit in

923
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Speaker 8: with each other. Because Mitchell has had a lot of

924
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 8: license over the past, throughout his career his three seasons

925
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 8: to do basically whatever he wants with the ball offensively.

926
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Speaker 8: Now he's got to share it a little bit more

927
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 8: and you figure out a way to be an effective

928
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Speaker 8: team player, lead player.

929
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're going to get some of those

930
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Speaker 6: possessions where Donovan Mitchell decides to bring it up and say,

931
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Speaker 6: there's two defenders in front of me, but I'm going

932
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Speaker 6: to try and go through both those defenders and try

933
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Speaker 6: and lay it up. I think that's just sort of

934
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Speaker 6: Donovan Mitchell's mindset that takeover. He's got a little bit

935
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 6: of Wide, a little bit of Russell Westbrook where he's like,

936
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 6: this is my possession, I'm going to do it. But

937
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 6: I think he is learning how to balance with Mike Conley,

938
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 6: which is like, like you guys mentioned the first time

939
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 6: he's got to do that in his career, and it's

940
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 6: paying off. Lowest turnovers of his career thus far, less

941
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 6: than two right now, highest field goal percentage, highest three

942
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 6: point percentage both by far, he's shooting over fifty percent.

943
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 6: Donovan Mitchell never come close to shooting fifty percent from

944
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 6: the floor. So I think, yeah, it's going to take time,

945
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 6: but uh yeah, five and three, I think I think

946
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 6: you can be all right with that at this point.

947
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 5: Oh, one hundred percent. I'm super high on this team.

948
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 5: Despite yeah, the five and three semi slow, I guess

949
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it, start because you're right.

950
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 5: The defense is elite already, not a shock when you

951
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 5: got Gobert, and the offense is garbage because they're trying

952
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 5: to figure it out.

953
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: Still, it's only gonna get better.

954
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 5: These guys are only gonna hit shots, and they're gonna

955
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 5: get a little more comfortable with what they're running, especially

956
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 5: you know, Conley and Bogdanovitch paired with their you know,

957
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 5: even ingles to some extent too, So you know their

958
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 5: losses are like to the Lakers, and they lost to

959
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 5: the Clippers, and they did lose the one on the

960
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 5: road to the Kings. Okay, that's not great, but it

961
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 5: was a one point game, could have gone either way.

962
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 2: They're fine.

963
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 5: This team is gonna win a lot of regular season games,

964
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 5: especially as that offense comes around one hundred percent.

965
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: And believe that.

966
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 5: All right, we had I sort of tweet tease this

967
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 5: at the beginning, stepping on the beach yesterday. We had

968
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 5: a question about a fan rode in and said, you know,

969
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 5: with these suspensions, maybe the guys should only miss the

970
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 5: games at home so you don't punish the road fans.

971
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 5: So like, if you only go and play in Portland

972
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 5: once and you're whatever Joel embiid and you've been suspended,

973
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 5: well you know what, you actually play so the fans

974
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 5: can see you in Portland and you serve your suspension

975
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 5: with those home games. And we couldn't really when we

976
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 5: were talking it out, correct me if I'm wrong. We

977
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 5: couldn't really find something wrong with that. Right, seemed to

978
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 5: make a little bit of sense. But but, but but

979
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 5: Adam clements tweeted at US guys, suspending players only for

980
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 5: home games shouldn't happen. Part of the challenge is winning

981
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 5: games on the road without your best player due to

982
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 5: their misbehavior. And where do we draw the line? Should

983
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 5: DeAndre Ayton and John Collins still be playing away games?

984
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: No, that's what Adam Clemmett says, So good point.

985
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 5: Good point. That's a plus one for Adam. One we

986
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 5: didn't think about.

987
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 2: Are yeah, are you being sarcastility?

988
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean no, no, I'm just saying like that that

989
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: different suspensions for different punishments, aren't they you know, yes, yeah,

990
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, it would be silly to see

991
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: if I Eyton playing you know.

992
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, if it's twenty five games, if it

993
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 8: happened in the middle of the season, you would only

994
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 8: be playing home games, I guess.

995
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a good point.

996
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 6: You would. Unfortunately skates. You know, you're across the border,

997
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 6: so you couldn't tell if Lee was being sarcastic. But

998
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 6: I feel I feel like you'll be home soon. I

999
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 6: feel like you're going to get that approval soon and

1000
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 6: you'll be seeing them. You'll be able to tell. I

1001
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 6: could tell. I could tell he was being half in

1002
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 6: the bag there.

1003
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: Look, you always want to consider things, you know, you

1004
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: don't want to consider to have it open mate. Yeah, yeah,

1005
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: I just think, you know, with a suspension, it shouldn't

1006
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: ever be you shouldn't be conditional. It's like, you know

1007
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: what you got, suspend it, that's it, you're out.

1008
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 6: You know.

1009
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: Like like my brother, for example, back in the day

1010
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: where we're playing juniors, he got into a fight in

1011
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: a senior game and he got suspended for four weeks.

1012
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: So he actually got suspended for juniors and seniors because

1013
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: the suspension was like four weeks suspended basketball. He was like,

1014
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: why can't I play juniors? Sorry? Man, you've been suspended

1015
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: for four weeks. You can't play anything juniors.

1016
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're like, he's like, he's basically like, I

1017
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 5: got suspended in the NBA, but why can't I go

1018
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 5: play in.

1019
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: The G League?

1020
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: Exactly? Exactly, that's right, but.

1021
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: You can't do I guess I never really thought about that. Well, yeah, right,

1022
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: you can't go play. I mean, you know, eating or

1023
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 2: Collins can't go play in the G League.

1024
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 6: No, So I wonder if I think if you're on

1025
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 6: a two way contract, like a guy who would actually

1026
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 6: play in the G League. I think Bruno Koko gets

1027
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 6: suspended in the.

1028
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, why don't you suspended? Your suspended?

1029
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: We got to find out about that.

1030
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: Well.

1031
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 5: Look, look, you guys keep tweeting at us, keeping emailing us.

1032
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 5: We read this stuff and when we can pepper it

1033
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 5: into the show, we definitely will. So shout out to

1034
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 5: Adam for tweeting at us at no dunks. All right,

1035
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 5: let's get to tweeted the night.

1036
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 6: Tweet over night. Wow, Twitter.

1037
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: Really tweeted the night Yeah, okay, yeah, sure, I got

1038
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: one hit.

1039
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 6: He's not being sarcastic.

1040
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: No, no, I was scouring last night and the early

1041
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: games weren't all that great. Last night wasn't not to

1042
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: talk about. No, there wasn't. There wasn't not a great

1043
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: tweet flying about. But I found one I found on

1044
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: that had five hundred likes. So that's that's pretty good.

1045
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 6: That's pretty good. That's good. That's good.

1046
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: And it came from the Kings and Raptors game. Kyle Lowry,

1047
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: we know, is one of the most vociferous NBA players.

1048
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: He's always going at the referees and in the fourth

1049
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: quarter he got whistled for a blocking foul that he

1050
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: didn't agree with, so he made his case to the

1051
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: referee was whistled with a technical foul, only his third

1052
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: one for the season. But you know, he gets a lot.

1053
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: But he's always, always, always during with the refs and

1054
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: so Raptors longtime beat reporter Doug Smith tweeted this the

1055
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: greatest turn in the history of pro sports would be

1056
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry retiring and becoming a ref.

1057
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 5: Okay, that's not bad, sure looking for you.

1058
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: Five hundred likes so you.

1059
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 6: Know, yeah, that's good.

1060
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, personally, I didn't see it, so for imagine your standards,

1061
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 8: it can't be everybody's seeing it.

1062
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: I actually, I actually, I actually was hoping that, Trey,

1063
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: because you were down at the Fortress last night for

1064
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: the Bulls game, and you stayed afterwards because you were

1065
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: going to kind of of uh well, I was hoping

1066
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: you were going to tweet a little bit of Jim

1067
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: Boylan's postgame scrum there. You only had two tweets, though,

1068
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: so he was.

1069
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 6: Pretty low key.

1070
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I was like, even Jim Boylan's on a

1071
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 8: back to back right now. But he did end by saying,

1072
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 8: nice to see y'all. Gonna go have some chick fil A.

1073
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 8: And then I heard him from the hallway. I heard

1074
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 8: him in the locker room saying, these are the spicy ones, right,

1075
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 8: these spicy.

1076
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 6: And then I went in the.

1077
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 8: Bulls locker room and it smelled like chick fil A.

1078
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 6: Wow, you know what a night.

1079
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: Tweet it next time, Okay, next.

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Speaker 8: Time it smells like chick fil A, I will let

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Speaker 8: everybody do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Bulls hammering the Hawks in Atlanta. Lloyd Pierce not happy

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Speaker 5: after the game.

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Speaker 8: During the game, he's definitely a candidate for worst the

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Speaker 8: worst night.

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Speaker 6: Last night.

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Speaker 8: He was pretty upset that old Jimbo called the time

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Speaker 8: out twice in the fourth quarter despite it being a

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Speaker 8: twenty point game.

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Speaker 6: Ugly game. I could see Jim Boylan being upset about

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Speaker 6: getting a Chick fil A chicken sandwich versus a pop

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Speaker 6: You know, he could get mad about the whole chicken situation.

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Speaker 1: Do they have Popeyes in Chicago? Yes, they do, but

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Speaker 1: not Chick fil.

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Speaker 2: I mean, have you tried either? Not as many, I

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Speaker 2: mean the many.

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Speaker 1: I have tried Chick fil A, Yes, because there's one

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Speaker 1: just over the road from my place, so I have

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Speaker 1: been there. I have to admit, yes, I've been there

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Speaker 1: once or twice. I don't like to I'm not proud

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Speaker 1: of it. But was Popeye's. Was Popeye's the one that

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Speaker 1: had that crazy sandwich over the summer?

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Speaker 6: That was the one. Now they're both having competing sandwiches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, I want to try that one. I want

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Speaker 1: to know what the fuss is about?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, go do it.

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Speaker 1: What's so special about it?

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Speaker 2: Pope makes it?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I tried that sandwich.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems to me they just got a very

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Speaker 1: very positive viral moment out of it. That's all I

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Speaker 1: can see. I'm not seeing anything that's like unique about it.

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Speaker 6: Or yeah, well how are you supposed to see the

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Speaker 6: taste through it?

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Speaker 1: But like I want people to say, like I say,

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Speaker 1: new thing they've got, or it's like, oh man, they

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Speaker 1: introduced this and it's awesome. It seems to me it's

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Speaker 1: just this standard sandwich that just caught fire this summer.

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Speaker 8: Well, they didn't have a sandwich. That's the thing is

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Speaker 8: now in the sandwich game, take your pocket money down

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Speaker 8: to Popeyes and get yourself a samite.

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Speaker 1: That's so that makes a little bit more sense in

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Speaker 1: the didn't they introduced that? I thought it was just

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Speaker 1: like people just went crazy for the Popeyes this summer.

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Speaker 6: Well some people. Some people are team Chick fil A,

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Speaker 6: some people are team pop Us.

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Speaker 5: Well, let's let's do a social video where Lee tries

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Speaker 5: them both and he weighs in on which.

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Speaker 2: One he likes more. He's got to heat both right now.

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Speaker 2: The answer, well, it looks like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean the thing with junk food, for me, I

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Speaker 1: don't like to eat it because it's not good for you.

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Speaker 1: But I'm a reform junk food addict. I mean I

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Speaker 1: used to live on it, so I can still appreciate

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Speaker 1: it for a viral.

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Speaker 2: So do you get a Chick fil a chicken sandwich.

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Speaker 5: We'll get a Pope's chicken sandwich and you can taste

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Speaker 5: test them, weigh them up.

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Speaker 6: Chicken. You're getting away from red meat.

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Speaker 1: But it's yeah, yeah, it's fried. It's okay, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a little fried.

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Speaker 2: We're doing. We're doing. It's not going to be a

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Speaker 2: pick and payoff, by the way, either.

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Speaker 5: All right, speaking of pick and payoff, let's get to

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Speaker 5: the picking results from Wednesday night. It was the Bucks

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Speaker 5: Clippers game. Bucks were favored by two and a half,

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00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 5: had to win by three or more. They just held

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00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 5: on one by five. Trey was the only one to

1151
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 5: take the Clippers. Trey Swervey. He swerved at the last

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00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 5: second and he said he was gonna regret it, and

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00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 5: he probably is. He's one in three. Now try you're

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00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 5: one and three after taking the Clippers and the lost

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00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 5: there and everybody else is two and two after taking

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Speaker 5: the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: I believe the official line actually went out to five

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Speaker 1: and a half.

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Speaker 2: Whoa wow.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we didn't change that line once.

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Speaker 2: It's left in there.

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Speaker 1: That line in would have Trey would have got the

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Speaker 1: win last night if we'd taken that out.

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Speaker 8: Shaman was trying his best man. He was on fire

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00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 8: there in the fourth quarner.

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Speaker 6: I was I was feeling all right, Yeah, it's like

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00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 6: waiting for the tickets to go down in price. The

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Speaker 6: line's always right before the game.

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Speaker 2: All right, what's our game tonight? And obviously not as many.

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Speaker 5: Games on his Wednesday night, no four night or four

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Speaker 5: game night four Thursday playing Fortnite.

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Speaker 6: Fortnight game night. There's so many, so much Fortnite talk

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Speaker 6: around the NBA right now.

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Speaker 8: I think that a lot of players are streaming online

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Speaker 8: playing against each other.

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Speaker 2: You want to get in the game.

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Speaker 6: It's good for them, get.

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Speaker 5: Super hold up. Fortnite is super fun to watch somebody play.

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Speaker 5: It's really strange. I've never played it, but I've watched

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Speaker 5: multiple people play it, and I've gotten.

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Speaker 2: Really into it.

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Speaker 6: Right, So you're going on Twitch.

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00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 2: Just I haven't gotten watching in person.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: You gotta be there. Let's start a Fortnite.

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Speaker 2: Where we drop it. Where we drop We'll start a

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Speaker 2: Fortnite channel.

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Speaker 7: Let's do it, all right, Okay, uh tonight four game

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Speaker 7: night in the NBA a couple five and two teams

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Speaker 7: going at it.

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Speaker 6: The Phoenix Suns are five and two and they're hosting

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Speaker 6: the Miami Heat. So a couple of teams you wouldn't

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Speaker 6: expect necessarily to win that many games thus far. The

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Speaker 6: Lion is really really close to Phoenix. Suns are favored

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Speaker 6: by one and.

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Speaker 2: A half right now, Suns are favored.

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Speaker 5: That's fascinating to see, Yeah, but probably rightfully so, okay, son.

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Speaker 6: People are people are pumped for the Suns more so

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Speaker 6: than they're pumped for the Heat.

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Speaker 2: I think, Wow, that's tough.

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Speaker 6: That is a very tough game.

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Speaker 1: Start off. I suppose yeah, give me the son, Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I haven't looked at you know.

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Speaker 2: I'll just give me the sounds.

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Speaker 1: Give me the sounds, all right, all right.

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Speaker 2: I'll take the heat. I'll flip it up. I'll take

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Speaker 2: the heat on the road.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: That's it's tough.

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Speaker 8: It's like which form of being warm do you like?

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Speaker 8: The Suns are the heat? They're both good? Um heat

1212
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Speaker 8: heat it.

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Speaker 6: Is okay, Okay, give me the give me the sun.

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Speaker 2: Oh split, I love it. I love it alright.

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Speaker 5: So Tass and Lee have the Suns favored by one

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Speaker 5: and a half, so they got to win by two

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Speaker 5: or more and Trey and I have the heat.

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