WEBVTT - The Importance of Doing Nothing 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.520 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA F Daily with 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.480 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording live from the Brooklyn Bunker. 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:22.079 You know, folks, Happy Monday to you, and I really 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.640 hope that each and every one of you had an enjoyable, 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:29.840 rechargeable weekend, because you know, I think that I want 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:33.600 to start off by saying that it is so important 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:38.720 to rest. I cannot express enough how fast time feels 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.600 like it has been moving these days. Like I woke 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.120 up today and I blinked it, I said, what is 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.839 the date? Like, how is it that November is literally 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:52.400 around the corner? And I feel like time is moving 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:58.840 at a breakneck pace because so many things are inundating 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:03.240 us with time, toxicity and poison. And you know, on 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.200 one hand, it's like, great, can we hurry up and 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.640 get through all of this? On the other hand, I'm 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.760 feeling like I want to be more intentional about the 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:17.280 moments that I am living. What does that mean? It 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:22.840 means to really be present in your moments of joy, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:28.680 really be present in your moments of peace, and acknowledge 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:33.200 them for what they are, give gratitude for them. Because 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.720 I feel like our nervous systems are just in such 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:43.560 a tightened and heightened anxiety mode that if we are 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:47.559 not being really conscious about how we are spending our 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:51.440 peace time, and which I and I let me not suggest. 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:56.040 This is not to suggest that your peace time should 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.760 be bottled up within two days or really a day 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.320 and a half, which is what the real weekends are. Right. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:06.160 You work on Friday, you have Friday night into Saturday 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:10.600 and then Sunday, But then Sunday night is preparing for Monday. 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.240 And so I'm not saying to bottle up all of 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.080 your good time, peace and joy in those in that 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:21.120 short time frame. No, it should be throughout your day, right. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:24.800 I think that we also live in a society where 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:28.160 we're supposed to work, you know, fifty weeks out of 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:33.120 the year and only get two weeks off. And that's America, right. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:37.960 Other places have six week vacations, have four to six 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.760 week vacations that are spread either throughout the year or 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.480 all at one time. And I'm thinking to myself, we 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.640 never give ourselves a break, and then when we do 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:52.959 have our break moments, we're riddled with guilt about taking 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:57.320 a break because shouldn't we be doing something? And I 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.760 realize nowadays that it is just so import to do 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:06.320 nothing right, to just like let our nervous system relax, 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.919 shut down social media, don't see what the next thing 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.839 on Netflix is, go for a walk, you know, reconnect 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.839 with friends, do some face times, or just like sit 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.800 and be. But you know I do that. And I 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:25.560 say that because in preparation for the week ahead, I 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.680 have found that when I am very intentional about my 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:34.280 alignment each day, when I'm very intentional about making time 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:39.040 to rest, I am much better focused. I am a 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.920 lot more creative. And that's the energy that I like 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.040 to begin each week with. And so I offer that 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:50.080 to all of you, to you know, if it's if 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:54.000 it's necessary to be super intentional, meaning put it into 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.560 your calendars each and every day. What are these moments 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.720 that I am taking that I am owning. Do so 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.680 if it's just the feeling of you know what, I 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.920 need to take a pause, I need to take some breaths, 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:11.480 do so because all of it is to help neutralize 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.760 our nervous system so that we can just be at ease. 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.000 And we live in a society that is not interested 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.520 in anyone being at ease. And I say that because 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:28.200 you know, taking in this political climate every single day 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.880 and just kind of looking around at people who have 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:34.440 the power to have such an impact. Right. I have 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:39.040 always said that I've chosen a career and careers because 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.640 I have moved around. I believe that life is a 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.400 jungle gym, not a linear ladder, and that you should 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.480 be able to jump from thing to thing whatever sparks 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.520 your interests, your passion. And I understand that not everybody 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.080 has the privilege to do that I in fact do, 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.839 and so I honor that reality. I say that because 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.000 being a part or wanting to be a part of 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.960 a system that can have impact on our day to 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:10.040 day lives, that can empower people, and then choosing not 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:14.919 to is so absurd to me. It's I I look 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.400 at these members of Congress, I look at these people 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.800 and leadership, these CEOs, and I'm saying to myself, my 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.520 life has always been about wanting to have impact, about 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:31.040 wanting to create impact and sustain an impact for the good. Right, 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.200 And what if we all were to just look at 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.480 our life our work as that, how can I how 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.120 can I be of support? How can I be of service? Right? 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.880 What a different mindset to occupy then how can I 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.440 be an obstacle? How can my life be about making 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:52.920 sure that other people's are hard right and that are miserable. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:58.480 I just it's really hard for me to understand that 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.200 that is a reality that half of this country really 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:05.520 exists in, really does and it mirrors if you were 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.720 to create a Ven diagram on all of these things 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.560 that we're seeing, like people who don't believe in science, 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.800 people who don't want to be vaccinated, people who are 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.880 so deep into the into their tribes that they believe 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.719 a criminal twice impeached man is their deity. If you 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.200 look at the ven diagram of these things, it's like, Yes, 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:29.039 these are the people that believe that they have they 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.640 alone should have the power to tell other people how 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:36.599 to lead their lives right or to take from them, 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:41.120 And that to me is just an absurd way to exist. 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:45.760 And it's such a waste of energy. You know. I 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:52.640 believe that our bodies and are made of kinetic energy, right, 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.359 and that when you come into contact with certain people. 0:06:55.400 --> 0:07:01.280 I say, nowadays, I am much more aware when energy shifts, 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.320 whether it's for the good. I feel, you know, like 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.880 I'm recharging. It's almost like standing in the sun, versus 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.560 feeling very drained and waned and wondering why that feeling 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.600 is happening. I, instead of just like wondering, I actually 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:21.000 investigate and interrogate my emotions and my feelings because I 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.600 don't want to spend time and energy around people or 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:30.680 things that are not recharging. And when I look at 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:35.520 how these people like the you know, Marjorie Taylor Greens 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.440 and the Mitch McConnell's, and the Ted Cruises and the 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:42.640 Jim Jordan's and the Matt Gateses and the Donald Trumps 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.400 and the Steve Bannon's, when I look at these people, 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.360 and each and every time that I said one of 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:52.600 their names, my face scrunches up, my nose, you know, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.880 twitches as if something just smells rotten, because that's even 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:01.560 the sentiment that is behind just utter ring these people's names. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:08.920 Right to make your existence so nasty? You know, nothing 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:13.280 is about uplifting. It's always about me, me, me, And 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:18.080 what can I do to increase my power? Right, my presence, 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:24.400 assert myself one of the things that I'm hoping as 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:28.240 because I believe that we are in an incredible transitional moment. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.320 I know that I am personally and many people that 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.560 I talk to are feeling that sense as well, that 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.720 you know, you can do what you feel like you 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.880 can do, but then let the rest of it go. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.199 I used to be in a state where I could 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:49.920 not let these things go. That I felt so deeply 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:53.360 affected by all of the evil that I was seeing. 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.400 And it's not to say that it's not happening, And 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.959 I don't think that the alternative is to ignore it. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.440 I think that it's to acknowledge it, right, and then 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:08.400 let it go and feel good about what you have done, 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:12.240 to try and move the needle, to try and be 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.960 of service, to be a ray of light to yourself 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.120 and to other people, and then let the rest go, 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.400 because it is going to fall where it's going to fall, 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:27.000 you know, unlike how Donald Trump exists. We alone can't 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:32.480 fix this, but we can continue to give ourselves the 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:37.400 space to feel all of our feelings, to acknowledge what 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.960 it is that we can do, and then let the 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.760 rest go. And I think that that, to me is 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:50.520 like what it means to really be abundant and align 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.400 and to be woke, right, it is to be conscious 0:09:54.480 --> 0:10:00.480 of what you can impact right, do that what you can, 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:05.920 and then let the rest go. I posted a quote 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.680 over the weekend that was about that, that was about 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:13.920 acknowledging that you've done everything that you could do this week. 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.800 Be proud of what you've done right, what you were 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.760 able to check off. You are not just your production, 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:26.200 but you know, we all want to be doing good right, 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:30.280 be doing well. And then it said, then let it 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.920 go right, don't spend your weekend, don't spend the rest 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.920 of your time ruminating over what could have been. Acknowledge 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.839 what was, give gratitude for that, and then move on. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.520 And that's kind of the space that I think that 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.480 we all need to be in because I'm going to 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.920 be real, the signs are not pointing to things getting better, 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.680 and so when things around you begin to fall apart 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.719 or seemingly like they are falling apart, it is in 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:04.480 humbit upon all of us to hold ourselves together right 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:08.800 and really root and ground so that regardless of what 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:13.840 the weather that comes in, that we'll still be standing tall. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.360 Because they want us to shrink, they want us to 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.080 shrivel up, they want us to be broken. That's what 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:25.600 their actions show us each and every day. I think 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:30.200 there is a bigger shift that is at play here, 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:36.640 and you know, maybe it isn't just about winning and losing. 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.720 Maybe things do need to ebb and flow. Maybe we 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:45.520 do need to see the realness, you know, the darkness 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:50.320 of this country and like pull back, you know, the curtain, 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.679 change out the rose colored lenses and see this place 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:57.680 for what it is and what it has always been, 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:03.520 and then do your part of what can be done 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.720 to shift things. But understand that sometimes, you know, we 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:12.640 need to go through darkness. And that's why it's important 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:17.800 to create your own light, right, to create your own light, 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.520 to be a light to others, and then let the 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:25.839 rest go. Today I'm going to have a conversation with 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:31.040 our friend Glenn Kirshner to understand where things are with 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:37.280 you know, Steve Bannon, the insurrection, and whether or not 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:42.800 we're ever going to see accountability. My feeling is, you know, 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.439 as each and every day passes and we do these 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.360 performative voting things, you know, to show that no one 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.600 is above the law, and yet not one person inside 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:56.040 of Trump's inner circle who's responsible for so much damage 0:12:56.040 --> 0:13:00.840 and criminality is indicted right now, and each and every 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.320 day I lose hope that they ever will. And you 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:08.319 know Glenn shed some light on how he feels about 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.560 what will transpire with Steve Bannon and the timeline that 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.280 we are functioning in and saying that we must not 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.680 lose hope. So I want to hear from all of 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.280 you in the comments section about what you thought about 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.079 last week's vote and what you think, if anything, you 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.920 will see from the Department of Justice this week with 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:31.760 regard to actually making movements on trying to safeguard our democracy. 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:36.920 That conversation is coming up next, folks. You know that 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.800 when we have the opportunity to talk with our friend, 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:44.400 the host of Justice Matters and MSNBC legal analyst, Glenn Kirshner, 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.640 I am always thrilled because the legal news in America 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.960 is much like Charlotte's Web. It is just tangled and 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:56.520 all over the place. Glenn, let's start off with this 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.520 this week and the fact that Steve Bannon in a 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.479 vote of nine to zero with the one six commission, 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.880 they voted to hold him in criminal content. We have 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.600 talked about this and the different types of content that 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:16.520 the Congress has the ability to hold individuals who ignore 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:22.920 disregard their subpoenas. So talk to us about this vote 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.440 and what we can expect next on the Steve benn 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.800 In front. Because sadly, I wish that this justice system 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.200 would treat guilty, wealthy, well connected white men the way 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.920 that they do low income black and brown people and 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.360 send sheriffs and battering rams to their homes and dragging 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.720 them out. But that's not going to be the case here, 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.080 is it, you know, not with Steve Bannon. I believe 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:48.000 they'll continue to treat him with kid gloves, even though 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.080 he is a repeat offender. Right he was pardoned by 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:55.880 Donald Trump for stealing money from Trump's base courtesy of 0:14:55.880 --> 0:15:00.880 a bogus We Build the Wall foundation, and Trump pardoned him. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.960 But no, I suspect they'll still be treating him very, very, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.800 you know, civilly and cordially, and we'll be setting you know, 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.880 long time frames for the upcoming litigation. But the good 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.280 news is our government at least had a little spasm 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:21.400 of accountability right this week by voting to hold him 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.960 in contempt and refer him to the Department of Justice 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:28.360 for criminal prosecution. It's sad that I am surprised that 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:34.160 nine Republicans crossed over and voted to hold him in 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.640 contempt and refer him for prosecution. But I think more importantly, 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:43.280 two hundred and two Republicans, and let me say this 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:48.680 as precisely as I can, aided and abetted Steve Bannon's 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:55.240 contempt of Congress by voting no, by saying, we Congress 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:59.080 can give you a lawful subpoena, and then if you 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:03.000 defy it, if you deny it, if you are contemptuous, 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:08.080 we've got your criminal back. All good. So I'm gonna 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.560 begin calling them the traders two hundred and two. I 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:16.720 think that fits them, and they assisted Bannon. They undermine 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:21.880 their own legitimacy and their own power by announcing to 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:26.600 all future witnesses who get Congressional subpoenis, we will not 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:32.680 hold you accountable if you refuse to comply. That's insane. 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:37.160 Currying favor with Trump's base while giving away your own 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:41.200 power as a coequal branch of government is insane. But 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.880 that's what the Traders two hundred and two just did. 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.640 Now let me ask you. Let me ask a quick question, 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:51.480 because this just literally popped into my head. This Republican 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:56.160 Party is hell bent on authoritarianism, meaning that they want 0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.520 one sole person, one soul party, to be in power 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:06.360 right by undermining their own authority. Is this their way 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:10.360 of setting up that precise scenario where when the next 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:14.879 Republican king or deity comes into power, that they don't 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:20.359 even have to work in coordination with the Congress because 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:25.480 they are they are effectively undermining their own power, their 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.919 own legitimacy, their own authority given to them by the Constitution, 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:34.840 in favor of this expanded executive branch. This you know, 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.480 I alone can fix it. Do you think that this 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.840 is part this could be part of their larger setup 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:44.639 for twenty twenty four. I can see that argument. But 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:49.520 what I don't understand is, first of all, they're not 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.679 voting out of you know, their principled belief in a 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:58.280 consolidated power in the chief executive. That's nonsense. They're voting 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:04.399 because it's it's a calculation about getting reelected. Period. But 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.800 what they're doing, I agree with you that what they're 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:12.800 doing will have the effect of moving us closer and 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:17.680 closer toward a dictatorship or an autocracy. But guess what, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:23.080 dictators have no need for congressional oversight, So they're really 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:27.040 voting against their own interests in every conceivable way. Look 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.040 at how Donald Trump treats Mitch McConnell. Now, maybe the 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.840 one thing I agree with Donald Trump on Miss McConnell 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:34.480 as a piec of you know what, who has to 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:39.399 go but an autocrat, a dictator has no need for, 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:44.359 and in fact will fight against and punish a coequal 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:48.080 branch of government that has oversight of the dictator or 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:51.360 the autocrat. So, you know, these members of Congress just 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:54.639 don't think things through. They just in their determination to 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:59.000 hold power because power equals money to them, they will 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.960 vote for today even if it's going to hurt them tomorrow. 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:04.920 I mean, that is one hundred percent right, And it's 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:10.080 it is the short sidedness that is sending our democracy 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.520 over a proverbial clip like it is this. We're about 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.479 the immediacy. And I think the same way, you know, 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:17.960 and I won't go off on a tangent, but I 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.520 think the same way about mansion in cinema. It is 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:24.080 about the immediacy of money in my pocket and the 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:28.120 power that I feel like I'm holding onto now but 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:32.280 not thinking about what this is going to do four years, 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:36.000 six years, eight years, ten twelve down the road. And 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:40.359 if you the purpose of us having these elected representatives 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:43.720 is so that they are looking at the big picture, right, 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.560 because all of us don't have the luxury of that 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:50.560 kind of time. Right. Everybody else is working forty hours 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.800 a week or plus more. That is still not providing 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:56.520 food on the table. But but go ahead, go on 0:19:56.680 --> 0:20:00.680 with what are we going to see? Now? What happens 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:04.440 next in the process. Once Congress has voted to refer 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.760 a witness for criminal contempt, it goes over to the 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:12.360 DCUs Attorney's office, and the federal law says the DCUs 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:16.720 attorney shall not, may not might, but shall present the 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.360 matter to the grand jury for its action. That action 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.160 should be an indictment, and then it will move into 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.879 the courts. I think it's helpful to look back, to 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.359 look back in time to see when did this last happen? 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.600 It last happened nearly forty years ago. And when I 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.720 say it last happened, I mean Congress. A witness in 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:41.919 the Reagan administration, an EPA administrator named Rita Lavelle, was 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:45.639 subpoenaed by Congress. She thumbed her nose the subpoena, refused 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:49.360 to appear, refused to comply. They voted her in contempt, 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.560 and they voted to refer her for criminal prosecution. You 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.000 know what the vote was, Danielle. The vote back then, 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.680 the vote on the full floor of Congress was four 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:04.600 hundred and thirteen to zero unanimous. Why because all Republicans 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:09.520 and all Democrats recognized they had to protect their own 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:14.280 power to subpoena and compel the testimony of witnesses. It 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:18.040 wasn't a political calculation back then. It wasn't a reelection 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.959 calculation back then. So look at how far we've fallen, 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.320 because now we have the traitor as two hundred and 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:28.880 two Republicans who voted against enforcing their own subpoena. So anyway, 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.920 Rita Lavelle got voted into contempt, got referred for prosecution. 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:37.040 One week later, one week later, my former office, the 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:42.920 DCUs Attorney's Office, indicted Rita Lavelle and sent her over 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:46.280 to the court for prosecution. That's the timetable, that is 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:50.879 the measuring stick against which the Steve Bannon case should 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.760 be judged. Now do we think Merrick Garland, the Department 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.480 of Justice, my friends at the DCUs Attorney's Office are 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:00.000 going to do this within a week. Let's wait and see, 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.919 because if they don't, because there's a precedent for it. 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:06.560 It's not a legal precedent, but it's an atmospheric precedent, 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:10.280 it's a timing precedent, it's an historical precedent, because if 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.480 they don't, that's going to begin to reinforce what I 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:17.080 saw from Lawrence Tribe tweeted out that, you know, Merrick 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:22.000 Garland is falling down on the job in any number 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:25.040 of ways. I'm not prepared to say we've got to 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:29.040 turn We've got to replace him, but I get more concerned, 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:33.119 not less concerned, over time with his suitability to be 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:37.199 the Attorney General at this precarious moment in our nation's history. 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:41.480 You know, it just it feels in so many ways, Glenn, 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.160 that so many people are falling down on the job. 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:46.680 I'm going to be honest, because, you know, if it 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:51.200 was just that we were dealing with this insurrectionist party, 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.640 but all Democrats were on the same page and we 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:58.080 were going full steam ahead, and this administration was going 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.000 full steam ahead in order to secure pure our democracy, 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:05.240 in order to close these loopholes and strengthen these guardrails 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:10.119 that the past administration clearly broke wide open, then I 0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:13.880 wouldn't feel so frustrated as time goes on, I wouldn't 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.400 be I wouldn't continue to be worried because I would 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:20.720 know that, no, they sense the urgency of now. You know, 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:25.879 what are you feeling about this administration's sense of urgency 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:29.040 with the timetable that we are up against. You know, 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:32.280 it seems like they have a sense of legislative urgency. 0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:36.080 They're trying as best they can to get infrastructure handled 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:39.359 and voting rights handled. It's an open question about whether 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:42.080 we'll see any success on those fronts, but we're hearing 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:45.360 about that every day from Joe Biden and others. Right 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:49.440 they seem to feel a sense of legislative urgency, But 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.960 you know, I think that loses sight of the big 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:55.679 picture because I think the greater need right now, what 0:23:55.920 --> 0:24:00.119 is more urgent is the survival of our democracy. And 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:04.240 without holding Donald Trump accountable for his many election crimes 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:08.840 and the insurrection, what I can all but guarantee is 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:12.359 that you're never going to hear another Republican candidate after 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:16.159 losing an election make a concession speech because they'll just 0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:20.240 announce that they won. They will have state legislatures that 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:24.760 they've put in place to basically override the popular vote. 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:29.520 In their jurisdiction and hand them the election. So I 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:34.600 think what may become extinct is the Republican concession speech 0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:38.120 if we don't tackle this problem. Now. Did you see 0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:45.520 Condeliza Rice on the View where she said that America 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:49.280 wants to turn the page on the insurrection, we have 0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:54.880 more important things to do. Yeah, I mean, I don't 0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.879 expect much from Condeliza Rice. I'm going to be honest 0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:03.880 with you, but that statement that we have better things, 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.560 that we have more important things to do than the 0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:10.159 securing of it. And I said to myself, if America 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:16.840 was watching what is unfolding here in any other country right, 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:21.960 noticing seeing the red flags that this government that we're 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:26.400 watching is unstable, right, what do you think that they 0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:30.520 would be recommending to do to turn the page on 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:35.199 an attempted coup? I honestly I could not. I was 0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:39.280 I gasped audibly. I saw the reporting on that, and 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.200 like you, what I heard her saying is we need 0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:48.760 to turn the page on free, fair elections. We need 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:52.200 to turn the page on a healthy democracy. We need 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:56.280 to turn the page on coequal branches of government. You know, 0:25:56.480 --> 0:26:00.040 that would be like me as a prosecutor telling the 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:04.119 family of a homicide victim. Listen, we're not going to 0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:06.160 bring charges. We're not going to go to trial. We're 0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.439 not going to hold your son or your daughter, or 0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.199 your spouse or your partners kill or accountable. We just 0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.240 need to turn the page, y'all just need to heal. 0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:15.560 Or a rape victim. We're not going to go after 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.160 the person who attacked you. We just have to turn 0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:21.320 the page. You just gotta heal, you gotta get over it. 0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:27.560 That's the kind of insanity represented by anyone, no disrespect 0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:32.320 to miss Rice, anyone who suggests you turn the page 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:36.040 on crime. You turn the page on the attempt to 0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:42.359 overthrow our democracy without full accountability. That's insanity. And just 0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:46.520 hearing that. And this is from a different Republican time. 0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:50.359 That's why I'm signaling this out because Conna Liza Rice 0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:55.359 is a leader from a different time, right before the insurrection, 0:26:55.400 --> 0:27:00.320