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Speaker 1: Sure, good whenever, So kind of just take me through

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Speaker 1: your background that how would you describe the craziness of

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Speaker 1: And it was three high schools, three basically colleges with

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Speaker 1: last six years ago? Oh it's been, it's been. It

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Speaker 1: was four high schools, four high schools. Uh yeah, three calls.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's just been the way the best way

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Speaker 1: to describe is just a crazy roller coaster ride. I

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Speaker 1: mean you had your ups, your downs. You know, you

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Speaker 1: didn't know what was going to happen. You'd anticipate things happening. Um,

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Speaker 1: but really just having like strong foundation in my faith,

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Speaker 1: think that helped tremendously. But crazy roller coaster ride. You know,

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Speaker 1: looking back at it, I wouldn't change it for anything,

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Speaker 1: that I had as a kid. So um, you know, thankful,

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Speaker 1: super blessed to be here. And what's the story of

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Speaker 1: how you gonna know the four different high schools. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't like I was chasing playing time. I think

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Speaker 1: it was just kind of it worked out like that.

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Speaker 1: It was just wanted to play at a high school

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Speaker 1: that my dad was coaching at, but that was like

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Speaker 1: a different one that my friend told me about that

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Speaker 1: like that, just one like the best opportunity to like

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Speaker 1: show out on the best team, you know, to get

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Speaker 1: chance to kind of feel settled where you were? I mean, luckily,

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Speaker 1: when I transferred to either University Arizona, I had my

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Speaker 1: when I transferred to Texas, you know, knew a couple

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Speaker 1: of guys that were at Texas. So luckily I had

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Speaker 1: I had some guys out there, some foundations built better

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Speaker 1: than that. I mean, you get used to, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's helped you like a very background of thirty programs

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Speaker 1: if you're kind of big deep end of the game.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean you go from you know,

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Speaker 1: you pick up on you know, different terminology, you learn

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Speaker 1: how to you know, you know, adapt and change on

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Speaker 1: of helped me get to where I am today, you know,

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Speaker 1: be versatile, you know, be flexible and change on the go.

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Speaker 1: And after the draft, what was the kind of recruiting

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Speaker 1: process like to come to UM? It was it was

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Speaker 1: pretty straightforward. I had a relationship with Cam and Joe

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Speaker 1: draft rounds, you know, I think it was kind of

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Speaker 1: a no brainer to come here. Learning of those guys

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Speaker 1: just a little private special teams workout myself and another

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Speaker 1: player got put through. You mentioned the special Teams bets

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Speaker 1: that that are hero. We've seen you working pretty closely

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Speaker 1: Just what's that experience been like and what you did

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Speaker 1: to work with these guys. I mean, it's it's been,

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Speaker 1: and just getting to pick their minds in the meeting room,

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Speaker 1: Well I didn't know already, So I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 1: been awesome. Like I can't I can't picture anything anything

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Speaker 1: changing positions in the middle of that. Throughout college, haven't

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Speaker 1: back and forth between safety. Yeah, I mean I got

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Speaker 1: recruited as a safety out of high school. Um, and

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Speaker 1: then once that first staff got let go at Oregon,

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Speaker 1: got you know, okay from everybody, and made a switch

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Speaker 1: to me my brother, you know, be versatile, played multiple

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Speaker 1: What do you like about playing? Um? I think the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing I like is like the swing at the

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Speaker 1: but you have multiple plays you know do well and

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Speaker 1: little kid in second grade and you tell your dad, oh,

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Speaker 1: my dream is to play in the NFL when i'm older,

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Speaker 1: and getting to live out your dream and then getting

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was It was awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys,