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Speaker 2: The World's a Vigeon podcast. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Evan,

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be going to Drake May's pro day as

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Speaker 2: well as Jaden Daniels are. We gonna have to keep

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Speaker 2: a leash on you, though, because you can't be like

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Speaker 2: running out there and running break off at the stem.

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Speaker 3: You gotta stack them.

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Speaker 4: So maybe I'll get like a radar gun and put

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Speaker 4: it like right behind him and get the mph.

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Speaker 2: Can you get a radar gun through PSA?

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Speaker 5: Is that?

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Speaker 3: Obviously?

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Speaker 4: Texas Bart was like, gosh, down's good. Who the heck

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Speaker 4: is this quarterback? And that's when he tells me his

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Speaker 4: autobiography of Drake May and.

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Speaker 6: The shotn't just be a biography.

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Speaker 2: I hope the best for him. It's a human being.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, do you hope Zach Wilson does?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you don't they do? Both things are true. Mac

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Speaker 2: is not good and the team did everything they could

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Speaker 2: to ruin them.

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Speaker 3: My question is I can kiss that guy in the lips.

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Speaker 8: We'll just power through it.

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Speaker 3: Because Mike made some really good it's rare. Everybody has

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Speaker 2: Mad yea, hopefully.

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Speaker 5: I feel like Mike has been pounding the table about

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Speaker 5: the lack of depth on the defense all season long

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Speaker 4: Pointing the finger at the on of the team.

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Speaker 9: There's so many holes that need to be filled better.

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Speaker 8: It's just not a capital again, and it's early, but

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Speaker 8: you know, just when I you know, I got to

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Speaker 8: be honest, there's a list of guys that you kind

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Speaker 6: So it is what it is. I don't think that

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Speaker 4: Some some really good points. And I don't mean that

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Speaker 4: at what's happened so far in free agency for the

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Speaker 4: a miss. You know, not signing Calvin Ridley would be

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Speaker 4: top tackles that are in free agency would be a miss.

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Speaker 4: What I have paid Christian Wilkins one hundred and ten

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Speaker 3: Ency. In general, there's been a lot of movement, but

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Speaker 3: Like you know, it's do you.

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Speaker 10: Want Aaron Jones or do you want you know, Josh

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Speaker 10: Trading running backs, but you don't see the big deals

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Speaker 10: Evan's point about the best players haven't moved yet.

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Speaker 8: And I think you made a great point Paul, that

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Speaker 6: So just kind of points the direction of what where

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Speaker 10: To that point, you know, Washington said we're gonna let

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The one thing I like about Gibson is, obviously

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Speaker 4: But I think the running back market is interesting because

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Speaker 4: all this to meet connects to draft classes, and the

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Speaker 4: I think wide receiver is the opposite where Calvin Ridley

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Speaker 4: we could draft lad McConkey in the second round and

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Speaker 3: They get a big pat in the back from Fred Kirsh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could use whatever. I mean, there's fifteen of them,

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Speaker 4: I think this wide receiver market's learning that it's it's

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Speaker 8: I think for the Patriots too, though Ridley would make

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Speaker 8: I'm sure that they could to your point, but to

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Speaker 8: you have a proven NFL performer. Is he that number one?

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Speaker 8: Maybe just below that, But.

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Speaker 4: You want to have a foundation for the rookie quarterback

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Speaker 6: It's hard to know what to believe.

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Speaker 2: Is because it certainly the wide receiver class is keep

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Speaker 4: one hundred. Yeah, Like I think that you know, if

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Speaker 4: Whereas at tackle after the Patrick Paul Kingsley sue my tie,

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Speaker 4: Yale kids.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Chris, Chris upstairs, Cassie was trying to pronounce it

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Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins asked how much money has he made?

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Speaker 10: I mean close to he absolutely, it's in the NFL

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Speaker 10: a great move, great signing.

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Speaker 2: And you know, people are saying that they knew that

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Speaker 6: I don't think.

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Speaker 4: He never got to market, so it's tough to sign up. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: But it isn't the deal kind of structured straight.

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Speaker 4: It's a two it's a two year deal. It's it

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Speaker 5: But also I feel like if you went after Baker

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Speaker 10: I think, oh no, he's your quarterback if you signed

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Speaker 10: If they did sign Baker Mayfield, then I'm not guaranteeing

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Speaker 2: Right, I agree, Right, I agree.

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Speaker 10: You know, I would never say one hundred percent because

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Speaker 10: I've been wrong too many times to do that.

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Speaker 3: But big the biggest thing.

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Speaker 8: And I don't know if normal is the right word,

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Speaker 8: Like that's what yesterday felt to me, Like all right,

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Speaker 8: you have you know, and everybody's like, oh four and thirteen,

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Speaker 6: I mean, there were just no other options. Kendrick Bourne.

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Speaker 3: Is it's appreciated that asset Kendrick Bourne a lot more

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Speaker 6: I just think I think it's a worthwhile deal.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think it's a worthwhile deal off a

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Speaker 8: what it's a four million guaranteed, it's not you know,

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Speaker 8: you're not burning money.

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Speaker 2: Getting your fourth receiver. I'm fine, And that's what the role.

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Speaker 2: And that's the role that's totally different.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the role.

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Speaker 2: So you have to have a fourth receiver. They just

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Speaker 2: sign one. I think today it doesn't matter what he

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Speaker 2: or really kind of the second.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's the other outside. No, I don't know.

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Speaker 10: That's gonna be whoever replaces theft, but I'm asking who's oh,

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Speaker 10: well today now it's it's probably Kendrick Bourne is one.

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Speaker 2: We're not playing.

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Speaker 3: So you need to add three receivers to get value

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Speaker 3: what you're saying.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, two to at least one.

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Speaker 2: And then you get think Pop Pop Douglas is ahead

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Speaker 3: You think Pop Douglas is a better player than Kendrick Bourne.

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Speaker 2: Yes, now, and I think he has more upside And I.

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Speaker 3: Really don't like this signing.

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Speaker 6: No, I think they're different players. I think I think

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Speaker 3: Douglas Pop Douglas is just.

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Speaker 8: Is going to be a little slot who you know,

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Speaker 8: you bring on on third and long or whatever.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I I'm I think that they're gonna they're gonna hopefully

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Speaker 8: get a number one and then you know, they get

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Speaker 8: Calvin Ridley and we can debate about number one, but.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have what what like six receivers on the roster, probably.

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Speaker 4: Five or six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And then you got and and Kendrick Bourne

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Speaker 8: I mean, you got Kayshawn Booty with some kind of

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Speaker 10: You don't see the difference there, No, if he's the

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Speaker 10: only If everyone if right and they get Calvin Ridley

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Speaker 10: and draft a guy in the second round, I'm all,

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Speaker 10: I'm in.

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Speaker 2: I agree. If if Kendrick Bourne is the best receiver

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Speaker 3: But that's what he is today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but it's March. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: So I don't need we can't, we can't draft.

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Speaker 10: I don't need to invest money into my fourth receiver.

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Speaker 10: Point I don't love you have to pay.

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Speaker 2: The fourth receiver.

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Speaker 4: Not that it's.

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Speaker 8: Not that much money, but I think this is a sud.

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Speaker 10: Worried about Well, I've always been worried about money, except

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Speaker 10: I've never been worried about the cap.

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Speaker 3: There's a difference.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's not your money, so don't worry about it,

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Speaker 2: but it.

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Speaker 3: Is theirs, and they stopped spending it at some point.

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Speaker 7: Okay, if they, if they are really this is not

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Speaker 7: a very difficult I know. If they, if they are

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Speaker 7: happy or satisfied or content or willing to settle with

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Speaker 7: Born as their number one receiver, then let's start over.

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Speaker 2: But let's start over.

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Speaker 8: But again, this guy, you can't payte for eighty catches

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Speaker 8: and like eight touchdown.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's coming out. He was on a pace

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Speaker 2: I'm perfectly Paul was. That's it. We spent the money

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Speaker 2: on Born. We can't spend anymore.

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Speaker 4: And why you can't. You can't You never happened before.

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Speaker 2: Now you can't see that because we've never seen this,

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Speaker 2: regu It's not their money to spend, as you taught

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Speaker 2: me very well twenty years ago, it's not their decision

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Speaker 10: I do not have a problem with the money they

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Speaker 10: gave Kendrick Bourne. That's not an exorbitant contract. What I'm

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Speaker 10: worried about is them not being able to get the

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Speaker 10: guys they want to slide him down the depth chart. Okay,

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Speaker 10: if he If they do, then I don't understand why

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Speaker 10: he's here. If they get a Ridley and Worthy, give

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Speaker 10: me a chuck, give me a late first second round

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Speaker 10: Xavier Worthy. Sure, okay, then I don't really need Kendrick

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Speaker 10: Bourne on my roster.

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Speaker 2: Yes you do.

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Speaker 3: I don't you you too, That's fine. I don't because

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Speaker 3: I'm fine going.

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Speaker 10: With a guy like Ridley or you know, let's get

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Speaker 10: Tamara's knock out of the park, t Higgins. I'm fine

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Speaker 10: with that with Douglas as the slot guy. You know,

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Speaker 10: three I don't need. I don't need like eight or

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Speaker 10: nine million guaranteed for Kendrick Bourne. Then that's all I'm

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Speaker 10: saying that that one was a little strange to me,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, generally receivers don't get better coming.

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Speaker 4: Off I do agree that in terms of that room,

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Speaker 4: a significant overhaul. And what you're doing is you're eating

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Speaker 4: up snaps more than anything. I don't care about the money,

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Speaker 4: but you don't want to get into a position where

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Speaker 4: you're you are. You know, if you're paying Kendrick Bourne

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Speaker 4: Worthy because he you know, you paid him as a

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Speaker 4: guy that's going to be a top three receiver for you.

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Speaker 4: That is where I wonder where all these snaps are going,

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Speaker 9: I don't know how to get rid of him.

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Speaker 4: It's not it's way easier said than done. I don't

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Speaker 4: Yes Smith Schuster, Like you're starting to add up in

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Speaker 4: terms of like who's gonna play. You know, Pop Douglas

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Speaker 4: if you do sign a Calvin Ridley, you really only

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Speaker 4: have opportunity for one other guy. So yeah, that guy

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Speaker 4: could probably comes through the draft and that and that's

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Speaker 4: how you go forward. But I'm more worried about that

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Speaker 3: And I just wanted to defend myself really slightly.

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Speaker 10: I'm not up in arms about the Kenry Boyne deal,

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Speaker 10: Like don't, let's not this is not one of those

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Speaker 10: of a it was kind of unnecessary, but it's there's

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Speaker 10: no real money here. It's I think it's a three year,

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Speaker 3: Even half of it is guaranteed and a half so

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Speaker 3: I I saw eight someone wrote eight million was guaranteed.

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Speaker 10: What I worry about is that he remains one of

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Speaker 3: That concerns me. Now, if you can pull off what

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Speaker 10: Not be a concern to me. But then I would ask, well,

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Speaker 10: why do bother in the first place. To me, it

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Speaker 5: That's a fair point, Paul, especially because he's I am

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Speaker 4: From what we say.

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Speaker 5: Me, it's just like the Juju thing irritates me more

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Speaker 5: up snaps and not doing anything with it, Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately that that ship is saled, like they gave Juju

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Speaker 10: For that much more is the dead problem with him

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Speaker 3: But in that case it's both.

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Speaker 4: If they they they just cut him out right like

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Speaker 4: then it's gonna be north of eleven million to just

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Speaker 4: cut him out right now if they can trade him,

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Speaker 4: and that obviously lessens the blow to about half of that.

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Speaker 4: I think it's about five or six million and dead cap.

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Speaker 4: But I was surprised when somebody too Johnny Smith off

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Speaker 4: it's a lot more money than DeVante Parker. Plus like there's.

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Speaker 8: Other dead wood, like it's Kaishan Boudi, which I had

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Speaker 4: But those guys, you can don't know what's gonna listen.

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Speaker 4: He can be cut for nothing.

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Speaker 10: I don't Yeah, I don't think any of these guys

445
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Speaker 10: is guaranteed a roster spot. You know, the booties in

446
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Speaker 10: the in the ragers, uh go and still here like again,

447
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Speaker 10: So to Fred's point, you're gonna have five or six

448
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Speaker 10: receivers on the roster and you're gonna have ten and

449
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Speaker 10: camp which ones of these guys, But you don't have

450
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Speaker 10: like receiver's coming in his camp.

451
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Speaker 2: But you know, like Booty's a camp body you've got.

452
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Speaker 4: I mean all right, So we got a little update

453
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Speaker 4: from Adam Schefter here on Calvin Ridley. Patriots and New

454
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Speaker 4: England is pushing to sign free agent wide receiver Calvin Ridley,

455
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Speaker 4: but sources believe that he currently prefers to return to

456
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Speaker 4: Jacksonville and has been discussing a deal with the Jaguars.

457
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Speaker 4: So it sounds like the Patriots are offering him the

458
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Speaker 4: most money.

459
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Speaker 6: But he wants to play with Mac.

460
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Speaker 4: He wants to play with Trevor Lawrence.

461
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Speaker 10: And he's probably that's good, Mike. He's probably saying, just

462
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Speaker 10: make it close. Yeah, Like I want to stay here,

463
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Speaker 10: Just make it close. I don't know, I would feel

464
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Speaker 10: a lot better about the depth truck if yeah, that happens.

465
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Speaker 10: But like, I don't think Kendrick Bourne is a camp body.

466
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Speaker 10: I don't think he's on the team.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that. I think there's more than that, and.

468
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Speaker 4: He's on the team.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 6: I mean not to mention TJ.

471
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Speaker 8: Luthor and Kawan Baker, two who are on the rosters

472
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Speaker 8: by receiving.

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Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I didn't mention.

474
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Speaker 4: I just it's time to put your money where your

475
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Speaker 4: mouth is. You said you were going to weaponize the offense.

476
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Speaker 4: So far I have a third down running back, So

477
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Speaker 4: go weaponize the offense, like that's what you told us

478
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Speaker 4: you were going to do. And to Paul's point.

479
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Speaker 2: Essentially, if you are going to draft that quarterback, let's go.

480
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Speaker 4: Yeah, kender Bourne is not weaponizing the offense.

481
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Speaker 10: And I do like, I no argument there, and I

482
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Speaker 10: do like the idea and it's probably an intangible we

483
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Speaker 10: have no idea how important it is, if at all,

484
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Speaker 10: But I do like the message of resigning a guy

485
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Speaker 10: like a when you so Christian Barmore says, yeah, I can,

486
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Speaker 10: They'll keep me yep. You know, you know when you

487
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Speaker 10: reportedly got about nineteen million a year, you know, it's

488
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Speaker 10: like thirty eight guaranteed or something like that.

489
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Speaker 3: So I like the idea of Christian Barmore.

490
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Speaker 10: Saying, yeah, if I have another good off season here,

491
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Speaker 10: I'm going to be in line to get an extension,

492
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Speaker 10: but maybe even before the season starts, because they're not

493
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Speaker 10: adverse to it.

494
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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 10: The Patriots have re signed a lot of guys over

496
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Speaker 10: the years that people forget about. Yes, like, I know

497
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Speaker 10: this is like a new thing because Elliott Wolf is

498
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Speaker 10: here now and everything that the old regime did was wrong.

499
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Speaker 10: They haven't re signed top three round picks in a

500
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Speaker 10: long time and still haven't.

501
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Speaker 6: By the way, sixth round.

502
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Speaker 10: This is a sixth round pick, you know the you

503
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Speaker 10: know people pointed to the free agent class of twenty one. Well,

504
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 10: they re signed Henry and they re signed Bourne. You

505
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Speaker 10: know that's a sign that they're doing things well. They

506
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Speaker 10: resigned Godshaw last year, Like this is not new stuff.

507
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Speaker 10: You know, they actually re signed Mills believe it or not.

508
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still around. What's his stags.

509
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Speaker 2: He's a free agent. Let's see bretton Bologna Italy says

510
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Speaker 2: Paul needs a new stick cap vers real money. We

511
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Speaker 2: get it, we got it. Born is a good signing period.

512
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Speaker 2: Let's move on.

513
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Speaker 3: It could be.

514
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's I mean, it's an interesting one. It's worth it.

515
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Speaker 6: It's worth the conversation.

516
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Speaker 10: I think if he if he's better than I think

517
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Speaker 10: he is, and he's like a like a number two receiver, yeah,

518
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Speaker 10: be a really good, really good sign And Fred said

519
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Speaker 10: the fourth receiver like that, I have no interest in them.

520
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Speaker 3: I don't know that money.

521
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Speaker 4: I think he'll be the third receiver. I just it

522
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Speaker 4: depends on what goes around him in terms of skill sets,

523
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Speaker 4: you know. I think that's the one thing about Calvin

524
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Speaker 4: Ridley is I want Calvin Ridley playing off the ball.

525
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Speaker 4: I don't want him playing at the X like he

526
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Speaker 4: did last year in Jacksonville because he's a smaller guy.

527
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Speaker 4: I want to use his best skill sets and that's

528
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Speaker 4: a little bit redundant with Kendrick Bourne. So at that point,

529
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Speaker 4: he probably is the fourth receiver on the.

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Speaker 3: Depth charge and if they think he's better, this is

531
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Speaker 3: a great contract.

532
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Speaker 2: Shoddy from Houston says, I don't understand the optimism and

533
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: people saying the Patriots are killing it all off season.

534
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Speaker 2: We heard how the mean old man they fired, drafted

535
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Speaker 2: poorly and neglected the offense. Suddenly resigning Henry Bourne on

536
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Speaker 2: when you and Brissett two players Bill drafted and two

537
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Speaker 2: we signed on offense is a great offseason. A twenty

538
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Speaker 2: nine year old wide receiver three coming off of torn

539
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Speaker 2: acl getting a three year deal is outrageous and Bill

540
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Speaker 2: would have been killed for Oh stop.

541
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Speaker 3: Well it's pretty cheap.

542
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, and that's why if he's better than

543
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Speaker 10: I think he is, it's it's it's a really good contract.

544
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Speaker 8: And that's why I said at the top of this

545
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Speaker 8: whole thing, like, there's work to be done.

546
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Speaker 6: I just think when you need to rebuild a franchise.

547
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Speaker 8: You're not going to go out and do it day

548
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Speaker 8: one a free agency and get all these new guys,

549
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Speaker 8: Like would you rather oh we got rid of Hunter

550
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Speaker 8: Henry and now we got Gerald Everett?

551
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Speaker 6: Like is that gonna would that be better for everyone?

552
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Speaker 2: I want to read this next email and then talk

553
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Speaker 2: about how much you think.

554
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Speaker 3: Before you before you read that.

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Speaker 10: Can I just my one last thing with Bourne, Like,

556
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Speaker 10: so you're absolutely right, Micha what you just said about

557
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Speaker 10: the first day of free agency.

558
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Speaker 3: They're not going to go out and do it.

559
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Speaker 10: Do you think they could have signed Kendrick Bourne to

560
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Speaker 10: this deal, say in a week or a week and.

561
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Speaker 8: A half probably, but he might have been really in demand.

562
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Speaker 10: Because absolutely this deal, this deal would have been had

563
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Speaker 10: if you waited two weeks to see what you get

564
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Speaker 10: and sure, then then say.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know, Kendrick, you know we're gonna have you

566
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Speaker 3: come back.

567
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do of operations necessarily matters, though, well it

568
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Speaker 4: doesn't if you guys are right.

569
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Speaker 10: Yeah, if they do what you guys say they're going

570
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Speaker 10: to do, the order of operations is completely irrelevant. And

571
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Speaker 10: it's a typical Paul worrying about things that haven't happened yet.

572
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Speaker 3: I do that a lot, but I think.

573
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Speaker 5: It could have been more so like, hey, let's worry

574
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Speaker 5: about the things in house that we want to like prioritize,

575
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Speaker 5: and then we'll go outside.

576
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Speaker 2: Ye yeah.

577
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Speaker 4: I also just did the email. Were they supposed to

578
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Speaker 4: have a whole new fifty three man roster because every

579
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Speaker 4: single player that is here currently that was here last

580
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: year was picked by Bill Belichick. So in order to

581
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Speaker 4: do something differently, they would have literally had to have

582
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Speaker 4: cut everybody, and he started from scratch and then down.

583
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Speaker 8: I mean, they did get rid of Chris Board okay

584
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Speaker 8: that I think that's a.

585
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Speaker 2: That's a little it's a tough one.

586
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Speaker 4: You know, really you.

587
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Speaker 8: Got rid of the starting quarterback that we were supposed

588
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Speaker 8: to rebuild around. I mean, I think I think they

589
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Speaker 8: have made some changes, but I just I would say generally,

590
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Speaker 8: and Paul, you know, I think that's.

591
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Speaker 6: A great conversation.

592
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Speaker 8: I hear all your points you're making it, and I

593
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Speaker 8: hear you know, I think those are good. But I

594
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Speaker 8: would just say on the surface level that these guys

595
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Speaker 8: that these guys all performed pretty well. I like all

596
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Speaker 8: of them. I like them coming back. I don't know

597
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Speaker 8: how talented you know that, but.

598
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Speaker 2: So let me read this email. This is from Dana,

599
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Speaker 2: Virginian Chicken. Patriots seemed to be bringing back or keeping

600
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: guys that will be good for the locker room. If

601
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Speaker 2: that assessment is accurate. Is that because it's in keeping

602
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Speaker 2: with Mayo's vibe, or because of all the division and

603
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Speaker 2: disruption in recent years, or both? Or is it just

604
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Speaker 2: who was available. I think it's stuck. Don't dismiss that

605
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 2: because I think Jerard talked about mending fences, building bridges.

606
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: He's got work to do in the locker room. And

607
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: does he need those circle the wagon guys, Like every

608
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Speaker 2: coach talks hypocritical.

609
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Speaker 10: Why you're talking about how bad the locker room was

610
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 10: last year, So what are we gonna do to fix it?

611
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Speaker 10: We're gonna keep the guys that were in the locker

612
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 10: last year. But there's certain but puscher Henry was considered

613
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Speaker 10: one of the gang of five with mac Jones, right,

614
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Speaker 10: and now we're retaining and guess who's gone not Hunter

615
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Speaker 10: Henry mac Jones.

616
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Speaker 2: So I will do you get it?

617
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Speaker 5: No, okay, I will say to Adam what you said, Fred,

618
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Speaker 5: I think that there was a notable difference in that

619
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Speaker 5: locker room when Kendrick Bourne got hurt and he wasn't

620
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Speaker 5: in there anymore, and Judi, when both of them left

621
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Speaker 5: to go get their surgeries and start rehab, there was

622
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Speaker 5: a noticeable difference in that lie. So having him back

623
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Speaker 5: is going to be a bright spot.

624
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Speaker 3: I just I but he was considered the opposite.

625
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: But I but but maybe he was right. I think

626
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: Hunter Henry, you know, maybe they weren't treating mac correctly.

627
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: You know, maybe Big Mike is part of this equation

628
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 2: that like he's a better locker room guy than we

629
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Speaker 2: know about. You know, I don't know, But I'm just saying,

630
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Speaker 2: don't dismiss who he's signing in terms of I need

631
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 2: that foundational locker room culture just like I need, you know,

632
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: the pieces on the ross.

633
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Speaker 4: Especially if you're gonna have a Rickie quarterback, you can't

634
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Speaker 4: expect to be the captain and the leader day one.

635
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Speaker 6: Yeah, there was just no.

636
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Speaker 2: Like if I if I signed all these new guys,

637
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Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna get in the locker room.

638
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 2: At least I know what these guys.

639
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Speaker 10: I'll go back and say I don't have any problem

640
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Speaker 10: with the resigning of Henry Born, you and all three

641
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Speaker 10: of those guys.

642
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Speaker 3: I'll throw Dugger into that too, even though he didn't

643
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Speaker 3: really resign.

644
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna be here.

645
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Speaker 10: Like, I don't think that there's anything wrong with that.

646
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Speaker 10: I think it sends a good message and all of

647
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 10: that stuff.

648
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 3: I'm not arguing that.

649
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Speaker 10: I'm just saying, don't give me they had a bad

650
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 10: locker room last year, and that's why they resigned all

651
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 10: these guys that were in the bad locker room. Yeah,

652
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 10: Like that doesn't make sense to me. I think I

653
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 10: have no problem with resigning these guys. I think some

654
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 10: of the guys that were part of the bad locker

655
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 10: room are not here.

656
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 8: But I also just think this team had no core.

657
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 8: This team had no identity. You didn't really know who

658
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 8: they're building around. There was nobody. There was no tight

659
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 8: ends on the roster. You know, Matthew Slater retired, you

660
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 8: have Juwan Bentley, you have Dietrich Wise. They're fine, but you,

661
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 8: like you said, Fred, they're not perfect. But these are

662
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Speaker 8: the guys that you feel like, I'm okay to build

663
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 8: around these guys. And I know they were part of

664
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Speaker 8: a team that wasn't great, but those guys were productive.

665
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Speaker 8: Hunter Henry was the only red zone threat they've had

666
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Speaker 8: the last time.

667
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Speaker 2: And let's go back. You know. So now these guys

668
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Speaker 2: are signed, you know, and the signal that it sends

669
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Speaker 2: to the other players. Oh, they resigned Big Mike, they

670
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: resigned Hunter Henry. You know, so these guys are gonna

671
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Speaker 2: come in, I hope with a good attitude. And now

672
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Speaker 2: they're the veterans. And I hope, and I'm sure Mao agrees.

673
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: He hopes that good attitude, that positive, you know, mindset

674
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Speaker 2: will permeate to the other.

675
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Speaker 10: That guy when us that guy, I mean, that's the

676
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Speaker 10: only guy that signed for any significant money.

677
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Speaker 3: Henry resigned for one reason and one reason. No, they

678
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Speaker 3: have no options.

679
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Speaker 10: They have no tight ends, right, I mean like if

680
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 10: they if they had like a young tight end on

681
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Speaker 10: the roster in year three, Henry wouldn't have resusched.

682
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Speaker 4: Dugger bar more Christian Gonzales, Like those are guys. Are

683
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 4: are your core guys right now and you're hoping that

684
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Speaker 4: the quarterback is going to be one also in a year.

685
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Speaker 4: But these Henry is exactly what Paul said. They had

686
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Speaker 4: no other options, Like you have to have a tight end.

687
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Speaker 10: But they made sure that they made sure that he didn't.

688
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 10: That's why he signed so early. He signed before even

689
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Speaker 10: the tampering periods.

690
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: Like if you're Henry, it's like, oh, okay, they want

691
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: me like they're human beings. So I think that means

692
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: something like wow, they you know, it made me an

693
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: offer really fast. They want man And like I'm telling you,

694
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: don't dismiss that whole locker room culture thing and and

695
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: Mayo's need to have guys that are going to buy

696
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: into his you know system, it's important.

697
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 10: I mean Derek, I just don't know if he's one

698
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 10: of those guys based on reports, not me, not anything, Henry.

699
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 10: I don't know what side of that fence he's on

700
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 10: based on a lot of reports.

701
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: A nice kid, competitive guy. Dan also says, following.

702
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: Upstart from me, I'm just telling you stuff that.

703
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: I've read, following up from last week's shows. If the

704
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: Patriots draft JJ McCarthy, I will go full Eric and

705
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 2: unleash harump of atomic proportions. Just say nay to JJ.

706
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Speaker 6: I'm with them, Nay.

707
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Speaker 8: Derek Henry to the Ravens was what we were kind

708
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Speaker 8: of weird into me.

709
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: That's a weird one to me. That's uh that that has.

710
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 8: Michael and I was laughing thinking about though the jokes

711
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Speaker 8: they would have been had if he came.

712
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: Here and what you know, Oh I, I would have

713
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: loved that.

714
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Speaker 4: Here's a different here's a different story Baltimore. It's a

715
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Speaker 4: weird fit.

716
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Speaker 3: Why because of the style of runner.

717
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because they they play out of the gun

718
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: and out of the pistol and like he's a downhill

719
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Speaker 4: lineup eight yards behind the line of scrimma.

720
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Speaker 2: But he can also catch the ball.

721
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I mean like he's not going to

722
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Speaker 4: start from a running start. Now, he's going to start

723
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Speaker 4: next to Lamar Jackson and he's I give.

724
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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh or John Harbaugh, I should say all the

725
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: credit in the world for being flexible on offense. We

726
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: know what he did when he dank. Like how hard

727
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: would it be to install something for Derek Henry.

728
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Speaker 4: I mean, I just when you have a quarterback like

729
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 4: Lamar and like we'll talk about this with Jayden Daniels

730
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Speaker 4: if they draft him, if you put him under center,

731
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Speaker 4: you're taking his superpower away because now his ability to

732
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Speaker 4: run is not a threat on that particular play. Yeah,

733
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Speaker 4: but you're not going to do that. You don't want

734
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Speaker 4: to do that twenty five times a game.

735
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Speaker 2: But you're down by the goal line, you're in the

736
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Speaker 2: red zone.

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Speaker 4: Well that's a lot of money for that.

738
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Speaker 6: Okay, do you know Ballpark how much?

739
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Speaker 4: So they've done it more recently because they don't want

740
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Speaker 4: him taking the body blows of running all the time.

741
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Speaker 4: But when you got to have it, I mean, they're

742
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 4: they're talking Super Bowl.

743
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: Didn't the Ravens have trouble in the red zone last year?

744
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

745
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: I don't have to look up, not that I'm aware of,

746
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: but maybe I thought that was one of the things.

747
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: But anyway.

748
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Speaker 10: But I would just say that the bigger issue to

749
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 10: me with the stuff that Evan's talking about is how

750
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Speaker 10: predictable it makes you.

751
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: Like if if you're going to do what.

752
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Speaker 10: You said Fred and change it and have have him on,

753
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 10: So now you're telling everybody Lamar is not running, it's

754
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 10: going to be Derek Henry running.

755
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Speaker 3: That's what you're looking to avoid. Even if he gives

756
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: the talk to Josh about that all the time, even if.

757
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 4: He gives the ball every single time, just Lamar's gravity

758
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 4: of I could keep it, he keeps.

759
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Speaker 3: The edge, she does what happened to play action.

760
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Speaker 2: So you put him back there, you're fake and he

761
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: boots or he throws. I mean there's still options under

762
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Speaker 2: center to keep the ball with Lamar.

763
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Speaker 4: Transferred.

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Speaker 10: Really, Fred, when when a guy's under center and they

765
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Speaker 10: run X amount of time, Yeah, you're gonna get beat

766
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Speaker 10: on it every once in a while, but more often

767
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 10: than not, you're gonna know what's coming. Just like the

768
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 10: whole thing with Yakub Johnson had to go because they

769
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Speaker 10: were so predictable when he was on the field.

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Speaker 4: Mar brought back the pistol.

771
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Speaker 2: I give credit. I give more credit to offensive coordinators

772
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: to know what you're saying.

773
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Speaker 10: And my bigger concern with Derrick Henry is is that

774
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Speaker 10: you have anything left now. He finished the last season

775
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Speaker 10: pretty strong with Tennessee, Like one of the best games

776
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 10: he had all year was the last game. Uh, he

777
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 10: basically knocked Jacksonville out of the playoffs. So I don't

778
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 10: know if he still has enough in him to do it.

779
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Speaker 10: But that's the way Baltimore wants to play. They're gonna

780
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Speaker 10: they're gonna run the ball and be physical.

781
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Speaker 3: Uh.

782
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Speaker 10: He's certainly, like Fred said, he certainly should help in

783
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 10: the in the red zone and and do those kinds

784
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Speaker 10: of things.

785
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: Uh. Calvin and Connecticut rights And does Marcus Mariota to

786
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: Washington tip their hand at all to who they are

787
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: drafting its second with number two playing style related more

788
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Speaker 2: to either quarterback Daniel.

789
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Speaker 4: O'niels, I don't think that much. I think both of

790
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 4: those guys run, and like Marcus, Mary odin his prime

791
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 4: was obviously a great runner. But I would say that

792
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't look too much into it.

793
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: He also wants to know would you give up the

794
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: second round pick and pay T Higgins? So would you

795
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: give up a second for T? Higgins?

796
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: I would, but I don't think they would.

797
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 10: Like I would rather do that than give Kendrick Bourn

798
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 10: three years a nineteen and a half million.

799
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Speaker 4: Why can't you do both?

800
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Speaker 3: You could, I just don't think they would.

801
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 4: Oh well, that's a problem, right.

802
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: And that we're back to my concern.

803
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Speaker 4: I would like to think that this regime does not

804
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 4: think that way. I would agree with you that Bill

805
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 4: would think that.

806
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: I would like to think the regime had to say.

807
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it does.

808
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 10: But that kind of stuff I'm talking I'm talking about

809
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 10: like one hundred million dollar contracts every that's all thirty

810
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 10: two teams. That's not just a coaches to say, you

811
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 10: know what, we got to do this because I said so,

812
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 10: no team does that all thirty two teams. You can't

813
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 10: make that kind of a signing without, you know, getting

814
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 10: it signed off on.

815
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Speaker 2: Tim writes in Okay, he says, okay, I'm now reading

816
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: that Calvin Ridley prefers Jacksonville over New England. Is it

817
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 2: panic time yet? Sure? Seems like Elliott Wolf or should

818
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: I say, Robert Craft excuse me, doesn't want to spend money.

819
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: Hopefully I'm wrong, and we're about to trade for t

820
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: Higgins but I'm starting to get concerned.

821
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Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't say that, Yeah, I wouldn't say it

822
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 5: has to do with money. I would say I would

823
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 5: want to stay with you know, Trevor Lawrence. I mean,

824
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 5: you know what, You've gotten a quarterback. And also I'm

825
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 5: sure the weather is a lot better than here and here.

826
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 5: You don't know what this quarterback situation is going to be.

827
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Speaker 5: I mean, maybe it's not all about money for him.

828
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 5: Maybe he wants to make sure he has a good career,

829
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 5: great location and money.

830
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

831
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Speaker 8: I mean they have given out about eighty million guaranteed

832
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 8: so far, so take it fourth.

833
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: It's worth No.

834
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Speaker 4: I think Tamren nailed it. I think it's a better

835
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 4: situation than Jacksonville. They have a quarterback, they have a

836
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 4: team that was in the playoffs two years ago. It's

837
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: just a better team than what the Patriots currently.

838
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: Have Alex and Mount Holly. I'm in the same boat

839
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: with Paul where I would have not signed Borne, even

840
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: if he's the best skilled player outside of Stevenson in

841
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: the last few seasons. I just would have liked to

842
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: have been more aggressive in trying to sign Ridley, even

843
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: though it sounds like he wants to stay in Jazz

844
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 2: about if we didn't resign born in Reger while also

845
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: letting Parker go. I just feel like it would have

846
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: put the team in a different position to give Ridley

847
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: a contract he couldn't refuse. Still would like to see

848
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: some weapons added through free agency in trade, so I'm

849
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: not losing hope, but I feel like now the best

850
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: route is turning to a young wide receiver like Polk

851
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 2: and Burton in the draft to fill out the wide

852
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: receiver room.

853
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Speaker 8: I mean, ultimately that's the answer, and I mean I

854
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 8: think that's where we're headed. And when I know I

855
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 8: was writing about the guys, it's, you know, it is it's.

856
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 6: A little flavor of draft developer tain.

857
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 8: That's, you know, kind of what they're starting to get

858
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 8: that cycle going again they fell off of it. And

859
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 8: again even though there's some guys with some warts like

860
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 8: you know, they're they're trying to make an effort to.

861
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 10: Come before that, I was a draft in develop these

862
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 10: like the Henry's Born drafting fair and when you get

863
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 10: in a three year deal, you know, it's like when

864
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 10: you when you and do you know a drafting development.

865
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Speaker 8: We'll see with Douggary, but you know that's it's a fab.

866
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: I think, but I think far more down the down the.

867
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Speaker 6: Road, and that's and I do I do it tomorrow.

868
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 8: But you know it's not franchise tag Joe Toney and

869
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 8: let them walk, you know the franchise.

870
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 6: I mean people talked about franchising.

871
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 8: And when you do making those same kind of mistakes, it's,

872
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 8: you know, everything that you guys said about you know

873
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 8: the message, and it's it's baby steps because let's face it,

874
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 8: they don't have a lot of those players that are

875
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 8: still around that they drafted that are worth it.

876
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh should we try a phone call?

877
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 8: Everything seems to be working fine. I don't know how

878
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 8: I can hear you guys. Yeah, it feels like normal show.

879
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: Now now we're back new board, new board, uh thing,

880
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: new phone? Who is Todd's in North Carolina? What's up Todd?

881
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: I know that, but people are doing a great job.

882
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound good. It's a little okay.

883
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 11: My question for you guys, get Quick still on the roster?

884
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes?

885
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 12: And do you think he's still on the roster to

886
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 12: start the new year?

887
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: Yes? No?

888
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 8: What can you bring?

889
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: Do you think he's going to be gone tomorrow?

890
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 10: I thought he's the start of the season. I thought

891
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 10: he said the new year, the new year, that's not

892
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 10: the Oh you mean tomorrow. I think, yes, he'll be

893
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 10: on the roster tomorrow. I would say by the time.

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Speaker 2: Remember where it was around season?

895
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 3: I thought he said for the season, for the seas,

896
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Speaker 3: So you were right, Thanks Todd. I'm going to say yes, I'm.

897
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 4: Going to say what what who Who's going to take

898
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 4: him off your hands? Like I I just I think

899
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 4: you just might have to eat it. You can't do that.

900
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 4: It's too much money.

901
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 9: It's going to be equivalent to him being out there anyways.

902
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 4: You're paying, but you don't even have to play him

903
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 4: like I would. It's just I just feel like, if

904
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 4: you're you have this this amount of cap space, that's

905
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 4: the only advantage that you have right now is that

906
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 4: you have cap space. And if you start eating up

907
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 4: too much of the cap space and dead money then

908
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 4: you don't then you've lost your one advantage. Who you know,

909
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: if you want to sign Calvin Ridley in a tackle

910
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 4: and you have a twelve million dollar dead capet on

911
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: Juju and a six million dollars dollar dead capet and

912
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 4: Devonte Parker like these are the things that Paul talks

913
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: about in terms of real cash spending, like you don't

914
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 4: have any more real cash to spend at that point

915
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 4: on other players, and that that's they they trapped themselves

916
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 4: into these two contracts. It's their own doing.

917
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Speaker 8: It just sucks, though you're just saying you're just gonna

918
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 8: sit a guy on the bench because you don't.

919
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: I don't think on a bench he.

920
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 6: Would just play him unless you can't.

921
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 3: Unless you guys are right and we got the fireworks coming.

922
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 8: I just think you have a chance though, And I mean, look,

923
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna get in the math, but like you're

924
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 8: a new regime, this is a terrible contract on a

925
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 8: player who I have never seen it for a single

926
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 8: second out there, make a play like what are you

927
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 8: supposed to do? Like if it was your guy and

928
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 8: you're the one who resigned him, and maybe there is

929
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 8: somebody's still here that it was his guy, so maybe that's.

930
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 3: A factor too, but no, no, no, no, it's just hard

931
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: to say. Nobody's still here responsible. He was a bad

932
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: player last maybe he can work for this, but he's

933
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: still here. Was responsible.

934
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 6: Hilarious if it's funny, like I saw somebody.

935
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 9: He seems to have given up TikTok since he got here.

936
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, if you can Johnny Smith, Juju Smith,

937
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 4: Uster and somebody will take him off your hands. I

938
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 4: am all for it.

939
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: What's the dead cap for that?

940
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: If they trade him, it's like half half?

941
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I'm with Fred. I would I would bite

942
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 10: the bullet and do it. But I understand Evans points.

943
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,479
Speaker 2: Uh Co writes in he's in Denver, Mac is gone.

944
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 2: Jacoby is the veteran mentor and game manager the team

945
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: needs for a rookie quarterback. I now implore you to

946
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: stop pretending we don't know what the Patriots are doing

947
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: at number three. Patriots will do what Mayo said on

948
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: the first day he was hired. They will draft whichever

949
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: quarterback is there, mayor Daniels. How long will the media

950
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 2: pretend the number three pick is a mystery to get

951
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: more clicks. It's irresponsible. It creates a false expectation for fans.

952
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: It sets people up for disappointment.

953
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 8: This is I don't know, somebody from alternate reality.

954
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. It sets people up for disappointment When

955
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: the Patriots don't draft Marvin Harrison Junior or don't trade

956
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: back Mayo told you in January exactly what the Patriots

957
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: would do. Don't forget it. If you want to speculate,

958
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: speculate about the second round.

959
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 10: Who is speculating about them not taking a quarterback the charade?

960
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 4: To be fair. To be fair, Fred did say that

961
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 4: it wasn't a guarantee that they're going to take a quarter.

962
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 10: And he he asked that. He started the show by

963
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 10: asking that, and what did we all say? I know,

964
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 10: I think you asked the question, do you think it's right?

965
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: Is it a guarantee?

966
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 10: And Evan went yes, Mike went yes, Paul went yes,

967
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 10: Like who's right?

968
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm just saying who you are doing again?

969
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 6: Go to last week's.

970
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 8: Show, what Mayor Daniels. I'm fine with either one, make

971
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 8: that pick. Either one is worth missing on. So I

972
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 8: think you're right now.

973
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 3: The uncertainty is which quarterback they're going to have? Which one?

974
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 10: I don't think there are a lot of people who

975
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 10: do not think they're taking a quarterback at three.

976
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 4: No, I'm not telling you nobody. There's a lot of

977
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior people. I wouldn't say among the media necessarily,

978
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 4: but on Paul show, as I hear them calling all

979
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 4: the time about Marvin Harrison Junior.

980
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, but he's made front of the media for being clickbait. Yeah,

981
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 10: and I don't think there's a lot of that going

982
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 10: on now. I'm not telling you that Joe and Walpole

983
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 10: doesn't think that they should take Marvin Harrison, but like

984
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 10: he's not trying to get people to click on his

985
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 10: story by saying that.

986
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: Rick and Dallas wants to know should the Patriots have

987
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 2: tried to trade for Jerry Judy.

988
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: I'm not a huge Jerry Judy guy.

989
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 8: What was Mark Schleros thing? Did anybody see that? I

990
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 8: kind of clicked by it, But he seemed happy that

991
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 8: they got rid of him, and I didn't.

992
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: Know he's had some attitude issues in Denver.

993
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 10: I mean, I would have taken a shot based on

994
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 10: it cost them nothing, But I'm not a huge Jerry

995
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 10: j I think the production has been there since he's

996
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 10: been in the league.

997
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I am, but last year and like it just

998
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: it's a precipitous drop off. He just he keeps on

999
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: not producing year in and year out, struggling to stay

1000
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 4: on the field. At some point the first round talent

1001
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: that I'm in love with. You have to look at

1002
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 4: it and be like it's he's just not that player.

1003
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: He just didn't live up to it.

1004
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: You mean, wide receivers don't always work out in the

1005
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: first round.

1006
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 4: That one, and that one might be one of the

1007
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: only misses in the first round. In the last like

1008
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 4: M seven, Kevin White was a long time ago.

1009
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: Now rust and rusty and Arlen has some questions about

1010
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: the Prissette signing. He's a little bit confused. He says,

1011
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: I just wanted to give a little stat comparison on

1012
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 2: perset because I genuinely don't understand it, probably never will

1013
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: understand the value. He's talking in comparison to Zappi. Bill

1014
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: got rid of him after year one for Dorset. I

1015
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: have to say that one catch against the Jags is

1016
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 2: more than anything Prissette has ever done. Zappi the Chiefs.

1017
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: Zappi this season was good for two hundred and twelve

1018
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: passing yards per game and had six touchdowns, six starts,

1019
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: nine interceptions, six yards UH per average throw. Veteran QB Brissett,

1020
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: who definitely is adding something in his last sixteen starts

1021
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: between the Dolphins and Browns about two hundred and forty

1022
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: yards a game. Blah blah, blah blah. Please tell me

1023
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: what he does here without relying on phrases like veteran presence.

1024
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 4: That's what he does here, that's why he's here.

1025
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 2: I remember hearing that with Hoyer and it didn't seem

1026
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 2: to do much for mac. Congrats. He might be marginally

1027
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: better than Zabi. Is there a better gig in football

1028
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: than being the veteran backup?

1029
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: There's a lot of truth to that, but he's here.

1030
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: You're dismissing the reason.

1031
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 4: He's literally here for the reason why you don't want

1032
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 4: us to talk about why he's here.

1033
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: So he's not that much better than Zabi. He's not.

1034
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: He doesn't.

1035
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 4: He's he is, you know, more of an NFL body

1036
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: type and like he's got a bigger arm and he's

1037
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 4: a bigger guy, and you know those types of things.

1038
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: But he's he's here because he's a veteran presence that

1039
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 4: has been lauded by it and.

1040
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 10: He's in the emailer is dismissing, and he's not telling

1041
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 10: you wrong for dismissing that. But I think that's why

1042
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 10: he's here. Yeah, And I think that's why they chose

1043
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 10: him individually.

1044
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 2: And to everyone's point that that tips the Patriot's hands

1045
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: about what they're doing. Now, yeah, it does because they

1046
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: need that veteran guy in the locker room if you're

1047
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: gonna bring in, you know, a quarterback at number three.

1048
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 10: And it's not because they want Brissett to play if

1049
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 10: Drake May isn't ready in week one, per se. They

1050
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 10: want Brissett to be there for Drake May. Whereas Bailey Zappi, Yeah,

1051
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 10: you could, you could say, like, well, he could just

1052
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 10: play for wee. But Bailey's appy wants to play. And

1053
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 10: this is no slight on Bailey's appy. I can't believe

1054
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 10: he should want he should want to play. He's entering

1055
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 10: his third year. He's trying to find like he's looking

1056
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 10: for the opportunity that Brissett has already had. Brissett has

1057
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 10: started fifty or sixty games in the league whatever, forget

1058
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 10: about whatever it is. He's been poor in those starts.

1059
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,479
Speaker 10: But Zappi's looking for that opportunity that he's never really

1060
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 10: gotten and and and.

1061
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: Presets the perfect veteran because forget about the money. If

1062
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: you're bring in Baker from Mayfield, the same thing, he's

1063
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 2: gonna want to play.

1064
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 3: Oh well, that's a different that's a whole diff or not.

1065
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: I'm not here to help Drake May. I'm here to

1066
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: just play.

1067
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 3: But he's the starter. If you bring him in, he's

1068
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 3: the starter.

1069
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that in terms of a veteran. Brisett's

1070
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: kind of perfect, you know.

1071
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Speaker 4: For it's non threatening, right, I mean Wilson wouldn't have

1072
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 4: been that, you know, justin Fields is not that those

1073
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 4: guys want to play, right, all right.

1074
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Speaker 2: dot com. I'm not hearing myself through up there we

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Speaker 2: go now, I'm man, okay, all right, learning Matt's Matt's

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Speaker 2: losing whatever Harry has left back there, Scotton Virginia writes

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Speaker 2: in I thought this was interesting. I read that if

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Speaker 2: the Jaguar signed Ridley before the new league year tomorrow,

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00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: that they would then owe the Falcons's second round pick.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the longer we don't hear anything about, really,

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00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: the more likely he is to re signing with the Jacks,

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00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: since they have to wait till tomorrow. Anyway, do you

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00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: guys have the same sentiment they.

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00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 4: Don't have to wait till tomorrow, but that that package

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00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 4: is correct that because of the agreement in the trade,

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00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 4: if he signs a contract extension essentially with the Jaguars,

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00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 4: then they would owe Atlanta. It becomes a second round

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00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 4: pick instead of I think whatever the conveidation.

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00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: So no matter what correct.

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00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 10: Oh so that's a non factor then because Jacksonville's clearly.

1114
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: I guess what he's saying, right, So I guess what

1115
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 4: he's saying is that if they let that contract expire

1116
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: when the league year starts tomorrow, then does it still

1117
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 4: count as an extension with Jacksonville versus if they sign it.

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00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know.

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00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 4: I think it does because you're not actually signing the

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00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 4: contract today. You're just agreeing in principle to the frame.

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00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 4: It's the same, right or it's going to be at

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00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: the same time period anyways.

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00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: So no, But like, is.

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Speaker 10: There a way that they could game it and just say,

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00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 10: you know, we're gonna you know, yeah, we're agree, but

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Speaker 10: we're not going to announce this until next week. If

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00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 10: that gets them out of compensation, well they can like

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00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 10: a loophole.

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00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 4: Right, but they can't sign the contract out tomorrow anyways.

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00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: Oh, I know.

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00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 10: But instead of waiting until like right away, if you

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00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 10: just wait a week or so, then well he was

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00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 10: out there for anybody to sign, and we resigned them.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 10: I didn't know the stipulation about the second round pick,

1136
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 10: so I'm not up on all my Calvin Ridley Minutia.

1137
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 10: I am way too, but I will take Calvin Ridley.

1138
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 10: I think it's going to happen. I think the Patriot's

1139
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 10: going to get him another Calvin. This one's in Denver.

1140
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 10: I'm with the other person who rode in from Denver.

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00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: On the socials, a lot of people are thinking and

1142
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: talk and take taking the Jacobi signing as if he

1143
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: is the quarterback and along with that they're going to

1144
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: draft a wide receiver or tackle. I'm with you. All

1145
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: this signing does show that they're most likely drafting a

1146
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: quarterback who on the socials are saying that he's the guy.

1147
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: Fans, that's what he's talking about on social I.

1148
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: Know that's what but I'm thinking, like, who's doing that.

1149
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 6: I haven't seen.

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00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 2: I'm saying that incredulously.

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00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you were asking specifically.

1152
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying that rhetorically, I guess yeah.

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00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 10: I mean my thing would be if if that wasn't

1154
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 10: the case, then you wouldn't have signed him to a

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00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 10: one year deal. If you were signing Jacobe Brissett to

1156
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 10: be your quarterback, it would be longer than a one

1157
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 10: year deal.

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00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: Question, how much stock do you all take into when

1159
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: the active player judon talking up one quarterback over others,

1160
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: I e. Jayde and Daniels. I didn't know he was

1161
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: doing that. Is that what he's doing?

1162
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 5: He was on Good Morning Football, and I guess they're

1163
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 5: referring to what he was talking about.

1164
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: Oh okay back then, Yeah, okay.

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00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: I think a lot of those guys watch a lot

1166
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: of LSU YEP, and probably don't watch a whole lot

1167
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 4: of North Carolina football, so or you know whatever. They

1168
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: watch a lot of the big schools, and you got

1169
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 4: friends that went to those schools or went to that school.

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Speaker 4: So I wouldn't look too much into he's probably just

1171
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 4: seen more more Jayden, Daniels.

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Speaker 2: Rob and San Diego via Connecticut. Many of us have

1173
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: a player whom we admire or support despite the mediocre performance.

1174
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: For me, one of those players is Jacoby Brissett. I

1175
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 2: vividly recall watching him play as a Patriots starter against

1176
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: the Texans and being impressed by how he handled himself

1177
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: in such a crazy situation. His letter to fans when

1178
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: he moved on showed his character, and he has consistently

1179
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: done his job at various teams without drama. I've often

1180
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: joked about wanting a preset Patriots jersey, and now it

1181
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: seems like I'll have the opportunity to get one. Despite

1182
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: knowing he's not a superstar, I simply like him. Does

1183
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: anyone else in the crew have a similar affinity for

1184
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 2: a player who others might consider mediocre. That's a good question.

1185
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 3: Matt Lacasse, Tom Ashworth.

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00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, not anymore, but maybe back back before I started

1187
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 4: doing this, I guess maybe.

1188
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 8: For Ninkovich early on, yeah, before he got good, before

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00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 8: he got good.

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Speaker 6: And then I was like, well, everybody loves Ninkovic, you.

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00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 10: Know, yeah, Nikovich show with like a word. I think

1192
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 10: he's a little bit too good of a player to

1193
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 10: fit into this count.

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Speaker 8: No, well, I mean, like I was really, you know,

1195
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 8: taking my blog from just a Tumblr blog to like

1196
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 8: an actual blog when he made the team, And so

1197
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 8: you guys know, I'm a defense guy. So it was

1198
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, this guy is starting to come

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Speaker 8: out of nowhere playing a lot, and you know, and

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00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 8: then he became a player who played every single down

1201
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 8: as a defensive end and everybody loved him so but

1202
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 8: early on he was a blog favorite.

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00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: I always, like, you know, tend to kind of fall

1204
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: in love with a guy in camp that you know,

1205
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: I say, Oh, this guy is gonna, Jeff come out

1206
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: of nowhere, you know, and be the guy. And I'm

1207
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: always wrong about I'm.

1208
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: Always wrong about Thomas Thomas.

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00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: Did I tell you that one?

1210
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: Then?

1211
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 4: An actor Fred's he was It's amazing Jeff Thomas.

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00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, did Freddy.

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00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 4: Have He didn't even make it in the Spring Leaves.

1214
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Speaker 10: I know he kept calling him Jeff Daniels, Jeff, Jeff Thomas.

1215
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: It really Jeff Daniel, you haven't killed fred Is.

1216
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 8: He just kept calling I mean Jeff Daniels, like who,

1217
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 8: I don't remember.

1218
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 4: That Jeff Daniels doesn't bell.

1219
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: You don't know from Jeff Daniels, from what Jeff.

1220
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 10: Daniels real actor, like the actor never heard it? Like

1221
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 10: dumb in the newsroom, Yes, he was a star in

1222
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 10: the Speed. I remember the newsroom and Speed. Yeah, Okay,

1223
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 10: he's a very versatile actor.

1224
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Speaker 2: Wide range, Mike's and Florida, he says, going back to

1225
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: the chef to report it seems to me as a

1226
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: negotiating tactic. Ridley's agent trying to strong arm the Patriots

1227
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: into offering a few more dollars. Seems odd to report

1228
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: the Patriots are pushing, but his preference is to return

1229
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: to Jacksonville for less money. With Kirk and Davis, there

1230
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't be shocked to see Kirk to Patriots by the

1231
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: end of the.

1232
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 4: Day, Ridley to Patriots. But I agree, and his agent,

1233
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 4: David Malaga, is one of the best in the business.

1234
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 4: He's got a ton of big name receiver clients, in particular,

1235
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 4: like the entire top of the receiver free agent class.

1236
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 4: And this is all David maloed.

1237
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 3: I think, what's what?

1238
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 10: And I do think I said about twenty minutes ago.

1239
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 10: I still think that they're going to end up getting Ridley,

1240
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 10: but I'm a little surprised that he's not getting as

1241
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 10: much interest as I thought he would.

1242
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 5: Do you think it's because people see value more in

1243
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 5: drafting one of these guys in the drafts, and probably

1244
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 5: such a strong draft class they can get a good

1245
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 5: quality guy for way less money.

1246
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, I think that's a big part of it.

1247
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 10: But I just thought that as really the only one

1248
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 10: someone would say, well, we like Kansas City everybody you know,

1249
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 10: Evan said to me off air a little while ago,

1250
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 10: you know, sign a one year deal with Kansas City. Yeah,

1251
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 10: and then really strike it rich next year after Mahomes.

1252
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 10: You know, does it all for you? I'm surprised that

1253
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 10: he hasn't gotten any you think real interest.

1254
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: Do you think his history has anything to do with it?

1255
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 3: Maybe?

1256
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 4: Yes, I think I think it does. And at this

1257
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 4: point in free agency, we're not at the the you know,

1258
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 4: freeqency tours where guys go to meet with teams and

1259
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 4: stuff like that, So you're just throwing him a bag

1260
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 4: of money sight unseen a little bit, and I do

1261
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 4: think that that is a factor.

1262
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 10: Uh.

1263
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: Paul in Ohio love the show. I just want to

1264
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: give you my Marvin Harrison Junior take as a lifelong

1265
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: buck guy who's watched every snap he's taken in college

1266
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: and seen every spring game in person. I also emailed

1267
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: in during the nineteen draft, pounding the table for and

1268
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 2: arguing with Andy over Terry McLaren the Patriots would be

1269
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: the worst possible landing spot for MHJ. He's got all

1270
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: the physical tools, but he does not respond well to

1271
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: difficult circumstances. I go as far as calling him soft.

1272
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: If he goes to a team without a quality quarterback

1273
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: and other playmakers to take the heat off him, he

1274
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: will wilt. Been listening since six The show has never

1275
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: been better. Thank you for all the.

1276
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 8: Hard work, I said the Matiso stairs, I'm like, I

1277
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 8: don't even I don't even want to rule out Neighbors

1278
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 8: like that guy is explosive.

1279
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 6: I don't every time I watch him.

1280
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 8: I'm just so intrigued that, you know, not to say

1281
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 8: that whenever I see Marvin Harrison Junior, Like, it isn't

1282
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 8: just you know, he's just one of those guys that

1283
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 8: physically is so gifted that he kind of naturally dominates.

1284
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 8: But I don't know guys like Neighbors, where he kind

1285
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 8: of a little bit more for me. And I know

1286
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 8: he's got elite speed, but there's just something really appealing

1287
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 8: to me.

1288
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 4: About that doesn't surprise me coming from an Ohio State fan,

1289
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 4: because over the years, Marvin Harrison Junior has tapped out

1290
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 4: of some big games because of you know, bumps and bruises, injuries,

1291
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 4: things like that, and that I do not That doesn't

1292
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 4: surprise me that that's the sentiment, But I wonder how

1293
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 4: much of that was, you know, until nil like, I'm

1294
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 4: not really getting paid to do this, and I have

1295
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 4: an NFL future and I'm am I going to really

1296
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 4: push it in this big ten game when I have

1297
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 4: bigger things on my mind. I know Buckeye's fans don't

1298
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 4: want to hear.

1299
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: That, but Rodrigo says, I'm not sure about this, seem man.

1300
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 2: He says, the Patriots are getting played. Jaguars and Ridley

1301
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 2: are working together to make sure Ridley signs after the

1302
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: season starts so they won't have to give up the

1303
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 2: second rounder.

1304
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 3: So but how does that help Ridley?

1305
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: How does that help Jacksonville?

1306
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 3: Right, they don't have to give up the second round?

1307
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I know, but like why do they even

1308
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 2: Like if that's true, yeah, but they just wait to

1309
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 2: sign him then, I mean, what how are we getting played?

1310
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 3: Well, if you still think you have a chance to

1311
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 3: get him, I.

1312
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: Know, but like why, Like, what's what's the benefit for

1313
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: Jacksonville to keep us on the hook?

1314
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 10: There's no benefit to keep the Patriots on the hook, right,

1315
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 10: So how are we getting played if they still think

1316
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 10: they can get him and they really can't. Yeah, it's

1317
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 10: it's a hypothetical. Yeah, I don't know what the truth is,

1318
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 10: but I think you had You just had two emails

1319
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 10: in the last three emails that No, but.

1320
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 3: It's a great point.

1321
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 10: Counterpoint, But the Patriots are actually going to get him,

1322
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 10: and if he wanted to stay in Jacksonville, he would

1323
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 10: have just resigned with Jacksonville. And it's clear he's getting

1324
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 10: more money and he's trying to get Jacksonville.

1325
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 3: To go up to what the Patriots are.

1326
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 10: Okay, so strategically, the other side of it is what

1327
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 10: this guy is saying, Actually, the Patriots are the ones

1328
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 10: that aren't going to get him because he wants to

1329
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 10: stay in Jacksonville.

1330
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: It's a done deal.

1331
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 10: They're just waiting for the league year so they don't

1332
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 10: have to give up this second round pick. So I

1333
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 10: don't know which one of those is true. But that's

1334
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 10: your point, counterpoint.

1335
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 4: This technicality of when he signs, I don't know the answer.

1336
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 4: I didn't.

1337
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 3: I wasn't even aware of it until ten minutes.

1338
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was aware of it, But I

1339
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 4: just I don't know the answer. To me, it seems

1340
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 4: like they would have to give up the second round

1341
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 4: pick either way. I don't know how the league would

1342
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 4: like go either go in a separate direction from that.

1343
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 4: That's the agreement of the trade.

1344
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: But does the agreement of the trade. And again, I

1345
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 3: just learned about this ten minutes.

1346
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 10: Right, if he's on the roster on March thirteenth of

1347
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 10: twenty twenty four, I will win the draft.

1348
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 3: You will. The Falcons are draft pick deadline.

1349
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 4: The term that I keep on hearing is extension. So

1350
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 4: extension would tell me that, Yeah, if they wait till tomorrow,

1351
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 4: then the contract has expired. It's no longer an extension.

1352
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 4: It's a new contract.

1353
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if they can get a loophole here.

1354
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 4: That would be a loophole.

1355
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. Somewhere Belichick. Belichick is smiling something.

1356
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: Sounds like the Falcons are the ones that are getting played.

1357
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1358
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 8: Well, I mean I have a question for you, Evan,

1359
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 8: I mean, what would you prefer right now in this

1360
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 8: draft a second pick or Calvin Ridley?

1361
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 4: Well, the Patriots aren't giving up the second No, I'm

1362
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 4: telling Jackson, Oh uh, probably Calvin Ridley for them, just

1363
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 4: because I think that they are trying to win.

1364
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 3: They can have both.

1365
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 4: I think I don't know the technicalities of the like

1366
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 4: we have to have somebody clarify that, you know, Tom Pelli,

1367
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 4: Sara or Chefter or somebody.

1368
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: If they wait, they get Ridley and the second they

1369
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: keep their second round pick.

1370
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 10: I think now, if not, I would rather have Calvin Ridley.

1371
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 10: He's a proven commodity.

1372
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah to me, that that, to me is a loophole.

1373
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 4: As Paul put it, that I don't sounds like it's

1374
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 4: going to be tricky to Yeah, exactly.

1375
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see Andrew from New Jersey. This round of

1376
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: signings just shows how much you need a franchise quarterback

1377
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: and how far we've were falling so quickly from a

1378
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: destination franchise. I've always said we should snab one of

1379
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: the draft's top three quarterbacks. May Or Daniels trading down

1380
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 2: for more picks. The smoke screen rumors that someone is

1381
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: pushing Elliot Wolf about trading down in stockpiling picks is ridiculous.

1382
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz sticking with Houston because of Stroud, Ridley staying

1383
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: put in the Jaguars because of Trevor, Lawrence Barkley probably

1384
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: wants to play with Hurtz and Philly. No wonder nobody's

1385
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: putting New England on their top list for free agency.

1386
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: Without a standout quarterback, it's tough to draw in the

1387
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: big names, even with good money on the table.

1388
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, I need to see what the money is and

1389
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 10: I need to see what Ridley does. I'm not writing

1390
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 10: him off yet. I still think there's a chance the

1391
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 10: Patriots gonn sign him.

1392
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 4: Right, I agree, but I think there only draws the money.

1393
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 4: Oh that's the emailer's point and so now.

1394
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 10: But I want to but like what the emailer says, like,

1395
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 10: even good money on the table, I want to see

1396
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 10: the money before I just assume it's good money.

1397
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 4: He's not gonna take ten million less.

1398
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: Evan, your your alter ego is feeding into this. This

1399
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: is from James and Portsmouth UK. He says, I just

1400
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: saw Alex Barth floated the idea on X that if

1401
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: the Jaguars wait until after the new league year starts

1402
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: to sign Ridley, they only have to give a third

1403
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: round pick to Atlanta, not a second. There you go,

1404
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: Do you think this could all be a smoke screen

1405
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: so they can give up less to keep him and

1406
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: he is always intending to go back there, making it

1407
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: official after four pm tomorrow.

1408
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 10: I do think it's a possibility absolutely, But again again

1409
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 10: I just want to reiterate there might be a little

1410
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 10: did not know.

1411
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 3: About this ten minutes ago? Come in all seriousness.

1412
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 10: You know what I I can't said when you listen

1413
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 10: to my shows was that, well, did I do that right?

1414
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 3: Fred?

1415
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 10: When I listened to my shows and it's clear that

1416
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 10: someone calls in with something like that that they have

1417
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 10: no idea about. It doesn't happen a lot, but you

1418
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 10: can tell when they're just trying to fake it. I

1419
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 10: don't really know what this is, but I think the

1420
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 10: Patriots should really make a push from Mike to so

1421
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 10: this kid, he's got a good quick first and you

1422
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 10: can clearly tell they don't know who the guy is

1423
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 10: that they're talking about, and they're like scrambling around trying

1424
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 10: to find you know, it happens like NHL trade deadline

1425
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 10: a lot because nobody knows the NHL like Frontwoods and

1426
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 10: Back which there's so many players change, they all change teams.

1427
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 6: That was Chucks for me. I was like who, I mean,

1428
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 6: never knew who he.

1429
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 4: Was I'm a little disappointed in you and the rot.

1430
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 3: Of course I can't get that name right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1431
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 3: That was a perfect example.

1432
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 10: If if we were on the show and someone called

1433
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 10: in and said I think the Patriots should trade for

1434
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 10: a Corps four or sign a corter for I would

1435
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 10: have been like, I don't know who that is, yeah,

1436
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 10: but I think it's It's my point, I guess is

1437
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 10: it's so transparent when you don't know who it is

1438
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 10: and instead you say, yeah, I mean I could see

1439
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 10: them doing a move like that, and then you you know,

1440
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 10: you're clearly looking at.

1441
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 3: Your phone trying to oh yeah, I mean they need help.

1442
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 10: But the offensive line, you know, like you can tell

1443
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 10: when a guy.

1444
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 4: Was that your show, Paul, your main show was on

1445
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 4: yesterday when they signed Taki Taki, Because they would have

1446
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 4: been like, Taki who And that would have been great.

1447
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, like they have no idea who. They don't

1448
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 10: pretend a lot, They don't pretend a lot.

1449
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 3: Those two.

1450
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 4: They would have had a fun with that because I

1451
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 4: think they were.

1452
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: Somehow it as a badge of honor. Yeah, we don't

1453
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 3: follow this.

1454
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not nerds.

1455
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 4: Sorry, some of us are nerds.

1456
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: Where and you should wear that badge with honor. I do,

1457
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: I do, David and Bethlehem says, I'm worried about May

1458
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: playing in the ACC week Conference Nixon Oregon had stronger opponents,

1459
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: agree or not, Well, maybe he did, but that doesn't

1460
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: mean he's a better quarterback.

1461
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely out.

1462
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 10: So when Nicks played against strong competition, he sucked in

1463
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 10: the SEC, right.

1464
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was better in the PAC twelve.

1465
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 3: He was definitely the better last, but still nothing compared

1466
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: to the SEC.

1467
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 4: I would say thirty. You do see a lot his

1468
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 4: pro day today, by the way. Yeah, a lot of

1469
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 4: the the ex quarterbacks that we love to talk about

1470
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 4: about here are so much the Orkis, the Warners, those guys,

1471
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 4: they all really like bon Nicks, and I've I've decided

1472
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 4: that they all really like floor quarterbacks like he just

1473
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 4: bo Nicks is one of those guys that is accurate,

1474
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 4: you know, does it, does the you know, season things correctly,

1475
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 4: progressions correctly, throws the ball pretty accurately.

1476
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 3: Like he does.

1477
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 6: Definitely a little bit.

1478
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 4: But he's he's more closer to mac Jones than he

1479
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 4: is to Drake May. Let me put it to you

1480
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 4: that way, and that that just seems to be who

1481
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 4: A lot of they have a lot of those guys,

1482
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 4: you know, Chris Sims, they have Bonis really high, you know,

1483
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 4: QB three, QB four, something like that.

1484
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: We've got to here and the patriots up in the

1485
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: admin level. We've got a little, uh sort of coven

1486
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: of Michigan people and they're all pounding the table for

1487
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: yeah for JJ.

1488
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 3: Who are these people?

1489
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 6: Think it's down the street, not street.

1490
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: In the marketing area. So I asked one of them.

1491
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: I asked one of them. I said, oh, you know,

1492
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 2: so what does JJ stand for? She couldn't tell me.

1493
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 2: You're not really you don't You don't know, do you not?

1494
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, but I'm not. I'm not

1495
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: pounding for JJ. McCarthy.

1496
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 3: Is that what it is?

1497
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 8: No idea COVID like witches, coven, covin.

1498
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 9: Honestly, after we just need person.

1499
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, American movie, don't worry about it.

1500
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: What are you babbling about?

1501
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 10: I thought someone was making When we're having conversation at

1502
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 10: a lower level, let us go.

1503
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: That's what makes us people world's original podcast.

1504
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 2: When we took talk over each other. People that can't

1505
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: hear anything.

1506
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 3: We're talking under.

1507
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 4: It's Jonathan James. By the way, Jonathan Wow, John James smid.

1508
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of the high floor quarterback.

1509
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 6: I mean that I was sold on that with Mac.

1510
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. I'm ready for a doesn't like try

1511
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: hard guys. No, no, no, no, that's.

1512
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 3: Not a try hard guy.

1513
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 10: A high floor guy is a guy who has the floor.

1514
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 10: The worst he's going to be is serviceable. That's the

1515
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 10: worst I want the guy with the talent that he

1516
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 10: might be a train wreck.

1517
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 3: But the upside is Patrick Mahomes.

1518
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 2: That's the league.

1519
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 3: Now, that's what I want.

1520
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 4: I feel like we have in this I'm just speaking

1521
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 4: for myself. I guess I feel like I have gotten

1522
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 4: to that point because of Mac. Now in this draft,

1523
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 4: I have no interest in the bo Nixes, I have

1524
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 4: no interest. I like Michael Pennix for a lot of

1525
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 4: his intangibles, but I think he's in a similar boat

1526
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 4: where he played with a bunch of five star receivers

1527
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 4: around him. His left tackle's going to get drafted in

1528
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 4: the first round, his right tackle's gonna get drafted in

1529
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 4: the third round. All of his receivers are going top

1530
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 4: one hundred. It's just one of the same thing is

1531
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 4: what we heard at album, and I think Pennix is

1532
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 4: a better, you know, physical talent than Mack was. But

1533
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 4: him Bo Nicks those types of players. I'd much rather

1534
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 4: take a swing on On Daniels or Drake May and

1535
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 4: hope that it works out well.

1536
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: You know what, Easy to drink, easy to enjoy. Bud Light,

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1538
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1544
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Speaker 2: of the New and the Patriots.

1545
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 8: So fred is the I know we're talking about maybe

1546
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 8: a little studio makeover, but is Bob's Discount Furniture studio

1547
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 8: for Paul gonna get made over for preseason? I don't

1548
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 8: know to get like, you know.

1549
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: We'll probably look at something.

1550
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, when Jacobett's playing, it's the starter, Noah writes, in

1551
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 4: two questions.

1552
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 2: First, is Paul always yelling or does he just talk

1553
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 2: crazy loud? No, but I did notice, like when we

1554
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 2: couldn't hear each other, we all took off our headphones

1555
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 2: except Paul, so he was yelling because he couldn't take himself.

1556
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 3: Oh is that true?

1557
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 2: Yes?

1558
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 3: I apologize.

1559
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 9: I apologized.

1560
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: And to what is the over under for each of

1561
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 2: the top three draft quarterbacks should they come to New England?

1562
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: For how many games they sit behind per set? How

1563
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: much development do the potentials need to usurp him? So

1564
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: it's kind of a good question. So let's throw all

1565
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 2: three in there. You know, any one of them who

1566
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: has to sit the longest, who has to sit the least?

1567
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm gonna just throw out there.

1568
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 8: I'd say Caleb blames the least, just because he's go

1569
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 8: out there and just make it.

1570
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 2: Plus his father will insist.

1571
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 4: I thought we were going a different three, but oh

1572
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 4: keep going oh oh oh.

1573
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean like we're not realistic.

1574
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 4: Well yeah, I don't think we can.

1575
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: Like Caleb's not realistic, Okay, so let's do five then.

1576
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying I think we can go. Drake

1577
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 4: made Jade and Daniels JJ McCarthy. I that's the conversation

1578
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 4: I think we're having now. I don't think the Pennix.

1579
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 4: Maybe at the top of the second round.

1580
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 8: Okay, but I think at least the season for JJ McCarthy,

1581
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 8: I would I would guess, but four games the other

1582
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 8: two something like that, maybe a little bit longer.

1583
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 6: On Jane Daniels, I don't know.

1584
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 4: I think you're gonna get to camp with with both

1585
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels and Drake may as a team like the

1586
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 4: Patriots that don't have you know that that's that solidified starter,

1587
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 4: that's not Jacoby Brissett. I think you're gonna get into

1588
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 4: training camp and you're gonna be like, we can't keep

1589
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 4: this guy off the field. I think he's gonna be

1590
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 4: that much better, uh then the than Jacoby Brissett. The

1591
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 4: only question would be do you do it just for

1592
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 4: his own good that you hold the clipboard for a month,

1593
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 4: you hold a clipboard till Halloween, just because you think

1594
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 4: that's what's best for his long term development, not necessarily

1595
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 4: that he's the worst player.

1596
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 6: I like that. I like how you put it.

1597
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm not interested in any of the rookie quarterbacks

1598
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 10: if they have to sit for more than a year.

1599
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 10: By the way, no mean like this whole like Drake

1600
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 10: may needs to sit for two years.

1601
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 6: It goes back to what hevn't said.

1602
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 8: It's like if you're not if you don't really have

1603
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 8: a belief that this guy could at some point knock

1604
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 8: off Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes at least like fool yourself,

1605
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 8: like like what are you doing.

1606
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 6: You're just spinning your wheels like miss On. That's why

1607
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 6: I keep saying it's worth it to miss On.

1608
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 3: I don't mind if it to miss On.

1609
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 10: I don't mind if they if they draft someone at

1610
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 10: number three and he's not ready to play week one,

1611
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 10: and you sort of have.

1612
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 3: A soft soft launch soft.

1613
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 10: Opening, you know, and you sort of you know Tua,

1614
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 10: I think I think Evan and I were talking about

1615
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 10: that earlier too. Ryan Fitzpatrick was there, kind of a

1616
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 10: similar guy to Jacoby Brissett. You let Fitzpatrick play and

1617
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 10: then at some point you replace him.

1618
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 3: That's ideal to me. But in a one year max.

1619
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 10: If by year two he's not ready to play, we

1620
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 10: have a problem. We don't have Brett Favre keeping Aaron

1621
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 10: Rodgers on the bench. We don't have Aaron Rodgers keeping

1622
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 10: Jordan Love on the bench, so I think that would

1623
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 10: be a real concern two years.

1624
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 3: In and you're you're not ready to play yet.

1625
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 2: Let's check out the acetick A hotline eight five to

1626
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 2: five pass five hundred. Bronson's in Salt Lake City. What's up, Bronson?

1627
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 2: Hey good, thanks for holding on.

1628
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, a couple of things really quick. So no, we're

1629
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 11: all obviously kind of said on drafting either quarterback that's

1630
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 11: there is three, and obviously we're going after Ridley excessively. Okay,

1631
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 11: Now say if we don't Land, is there a world

1632
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 11: where you guys.

1633
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 12: Either go after a trade for like Keenan Allen, big

1634
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 12: Games a Yuk or do you possibly go after another

1635
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 12: free agent like Smith and the tackle and go after

1636
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 12: two wide receivers in the draft?

1637
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thanks for the call.

1638
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 4: I think they'll pivot in the veteran market if Caln

1639
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 4: Ridley turns them down, whether it's Hollywood Brown, it's a

1640
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 4: trade candidate, I think they'll pivot to somebody.

1641
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: The only problem, you know, somebody else said, you know,

1642
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: with cousins leaving Minnesota, does that possibly make Justin Jefferson

1643
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: available in the trade. Maybe, but man, you're gonna have

1644
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 2: to give up so much. And we're talking about the

1645
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 2: Patriots needing to you know, draft develop I think that

1646
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: hurts them to that's give up a boatload for Justin Jefferson.

1647
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 4: Well, what if or what if we do the Colin

1648
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 4: Coward and trade's he's he stinks he can't play now,

1649
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 4: Colin the radio host, I would do this deal that

1650
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 4: he's going to propose. I don't think there's any chance

1651
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 4: that Minnesota would. But if the Patriots trade down with

1652
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 4: Minnesota from three to eleven and Justin Jefferson is in

1653
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 4: the trade from Minnesota's.

1654
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: Side, but they want more than that, I don't.

1655
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

1656
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 10: Colin Coward has the Patriots also getting Minnesota's first round

1657
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 10: pick next year in this deal. Yeah, okay, so again

1658
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 10: I'm all for this trade.

1659
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 2: I'll take it.

1660
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 3: I'm all for this trade.

1661
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 10: I don't think there's any chance that to move up

1662
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 10: eight spots they're going to give up one of the

1663
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 10: five best players in football plus a future first round pick,

1664
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 10: and I think a second round pick is that.

1665
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 4: I don't know how much the deal would look.

1666
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: Like unless they're trying to do what the Bills doing.

1667
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 4: I don't know how much to deal with.

1668
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what I think rid of, you know, money.

1669
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 4: No, I don't know how what the deal is actually

1670
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 4: would would look like in terms of all the picks

1671
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 4: that go back and forth. But make the Vikings have

1672
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 4: to ante up in that situation, like the Patriots are

1673
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 4: the ones that are trading down, and you're, well, you're

1674
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 4: also trading down and handing the Vikings a quarterback in

1675
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 4: the draft.

1676
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 10: But you're trading down, yes, but the guy trading up

1677
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 10: is giving up a lot, like the right.

1678
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 4: But you count Justin Jefferson as an asset, right, so

1679
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 4: like what it seems, just a regular asset. It's better

1680
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 4: than anything you're going to get. He's one of my

1681
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 4: favorite players in the league. I'm not telling you he's bad,

1682
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 4: like it's not. But think about it as Justin Jefferson

1683
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 4: is worth how many picks und picks? I don't think so.

1684
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill didn't even get two first round picks, and

1685
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 4: I don't know if he is. And you're also talking

1686
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 4: you also have to pay him, Like that's the whole

1687
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 4: part from the Vikings standpoint, is they might not want

1688
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 4: to pay Justin Jefferson thirty millionion dollars a year, So

1689
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 4: that that's guess what that's that's what would make that

1690
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 4: to me is the that's the only reason they're getting

1691
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 4: rid of them, Like it wouldn't be any other reason.

1692
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 10: And that to me would be the the stumbling block

1693
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 10: for Jefferson A Higgins. Like I would say, yes, yes,

1694
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 10: and yes. So all three of those guys, take any

1695
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 10: of them. They're all terrific players, and I would be

1696
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 10: willing to trade resources to get them. But the problem

1697
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 10: is you're trading resources, and to make it worth your while,

1698
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 10: you now have to give that contract. So you have

1699
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 10: to have some kind of assurance, you know, and I

1700
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 10: know there's ways to do that, so like you can't

1701
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 10: have one. You can't say I'm going to give up

1702
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 10: to you know, like second round picks in consecutive years

1703
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 10: for T Higgins and not have an assurance that you're

1704
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 10: going to be able to retain them.

1705
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's crazy.

1706
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 4: No, you're definitely trading for him to sign him to

1707
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 4: an extension. I don't think Brandon Auk is super realistic either. No,

1708
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 4: I don't think the Niners are trading Brandon AIU t.

1709
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 4: Higgins is the guy. Has always been the guy, whether

1710
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 4: it was a free agent or he was you know,

1711
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 4: in the trading.

1712
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 2: There's the more chances them trading Deebo Samuel teeah. Yeah,

1713
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: that you thing for the Niners. There's more of a

1714
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 2: chance of them trading Deebo Samuel than ayk.

1715
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a I think that's the That's kind of

1716
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 8: how things have shifted in the.

1717
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 2: Last Yeah, but I wouldn't worry about wide receiver if

1718
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 2: you're a Patriots fan because in this year's draft, our

1719
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 2: lad has a dual meaning.

1720
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 6: Oh did you.

1721
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 2: Get so with the amount of just out of curiosity,

1722
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: you know, you get what I'm saying.

1723
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 10: Yeah, fifteen minutes left in the show. With the amount

1724
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 10: of money the Bills have have spent since they let

1725
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 10: all those guys, could you still think all those guys

1726
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 10: were just like money things?

1727
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1728
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Dave says, of course, Ridley would rather be

1729
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, no taxes, the weather's better, quarterbacks better. I

1730
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 2: would imagine if we would have to offer a considerable

1731
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: amount more than the cheap crafts are willing to pay. Oh,

1732
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,440
Speaker 2: that's terrible. I hope we're at least trying to get Higgins.

1733
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 2: We're pretty horrible at selecting wide receivers, so trade Juju

1734
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: Thornton a third. We forgot about Thornton.

1735
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 3: When we were No, I didn't.

1736
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 4: I talked about him when not a problem. You guys

1737
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 4: were trying to tell me where are these here's the door,

1738
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 4: Thank you for coming exactly.

1739
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 3: But will they do that?

1740
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 4: Why not? I don't doesn't cost them anything.

1741
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1742
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 3: I think mac grow really likes him.

1743
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 9: No, he's got to go.

1744
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 10: Got did I better chance Taekwan throw an on or

1745
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 10: off the roster for next year?

1746
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 6: Uh off?

1747
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 4: I would say taekwon Thornton is I'll be on record

1748
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 4: saying on battle battling for like wide receiver five or

1749
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 4: wide receiver six with Jalennrick.

1750
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 8: No stop it, better chance I'll be on the roster

1751
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 8: Juju or Thornton juju Juju.

1752
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 2: Because because of the contract, Rodrigo says, the Jaguars have

1753
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 2: started a faux bidding war to hide the fact that

1754
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 2: the deal with Ridley is already done and probably has

1755
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 2: been done since.

1756
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 3: There really bumming me since.

1757
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: Before the tampering period, Jaguars are using the Patriots to

1758
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 2: screw the Falcons. Out of a second round.

1759
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 8: The first possible, Paul being like super Powl, like I

1760
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 8: think it's gonna happen.

1761
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 3: I still think it's gonna happen. I refuse to believe.

1762
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 8: Don't let them bring you down, Paul, You're gonna happen.

1763
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 9: At eleven fifty, I think the.

1764
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 10: Born signing made so little sense that it has to

1765
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 10: mean Ridley is coming, Like something like that has to

1766
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 10: be happening.

1767
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 4: They Oh, yeah, they are planning on adding a veteran receiver,

1768
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 4: whether it's Calvin Ridley, it's Hollywood Brown, it's a trade

1769
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 4: for somebody else. Like they're not coming out of this

1770
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 4: this free agency period without adding a guy that they

1771
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 4: think is better than Kendrick Bourne. Whether we'd think he's

1772
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 4: better than Kendrick Bourne, I guess will be remains to

1773
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 4: be seated.

1774
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,520
Speaker 3: But like Hollywood Brown.

1775
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see Zane from New Jersey. Why would Justin

1776
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 2: Jefferson want to play for the Patriots with no quarterbacks

1777
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: but not want to play with Minnesota who also has

1778
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: no quarterback. That trade doesn't make sense to me.

1779
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,799
Speaker 4: It's not up to Justin Jefferson's trade.

1780
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 9: I'm sure he's not about Sam Donald though.

1781
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 3: No That's why I think that he's on the table

1782
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 3: because he specifically wanted to see what happened with their

1783
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 3: quarterback situation.

1784
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: Well, you know, now that I think about it when

1785
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 2: it comes to the Vikings, the fact.

1786
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 10: This one's gonna be we're gonna spin it, we're gonna

1787
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 10: spin it going, this one's gonna be good.

1788
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,799
Speaker 2: The fact that they you know, weren't in on Cousins.

1789
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: He's gone, and then they just got Donald, who I

1790
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 2: put in the category of Jacoby Pressett. Maybe they are

1791
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 2: thinking of moving up to get themselves.

1792
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 4: Well Jon McCarthy JJ McCarthy at eleven is obviously in play,

1793
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 4: but they are one hundred percent of trade up team

1794
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 4: and the Falcons are no longer a trade up team,

1795
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 4: which was a team I wanted if they were going

1796
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 4: to trade down. Three to eight was where I was

1797
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 4: thinking was the sweet spot. Even eleven's very far down.

1798
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 10: I no question, Freddy, this is the Minnesota is the

1799
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 10: version of the Patriots. Signing Sam Donald does not take

1800
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 10: them out of the trade up category, right, just like

1801
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 10: it doesn't take the Patriots out of taking a quarterback

1802
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 10: at three situation right.

1803
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 2: Alex says they should The Patriots should draft MHJ. Sign Ridley,

1804
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 2: take a solid quarterback in the early second round or

1805
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: move up a couple spots.

1806
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 10: Okay, okay, the only thing I'm not against the plan

1807
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 10: in general except for the thinking you have the quarterback

1808
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 10: situation solved with the second round pick. For the three

1809
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 10: teams in football that have their quarterback situation solved with

1810
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:31,560
Speaker 10: a you know, post first round quarterback, there's just not

1811
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 10: that many guys. It's basically Dak and Jalen Hurts, Jalen

1812
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 10: Hurts and Brock Purdy. Now, and we know Evan hates

1813
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,440
Speaker 10: Brock Purty, so I'm counting him for this exercise.

1814
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 4: I don't know why. No, I'm just kidding. I the

1815
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 4: second round quarterbacks are going to be really Pennix maybe

1816
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 4: if he falls that far, Nicks I think will definitely

1817
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 4: be there. And then maybe Spencer Rattler is more like

1818
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 4: a third or fourth round quarterback. And those those are

1819
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 4: the three guys that have any sort of start. Kid

1820
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,879
Speaker 4: from Tulane at all. Yeah, he was awful at the Senior.

1821
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 10: Bowl, but I don't care about the Senior Bowl. Did

1822
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 10: you guys watch him? Like any tape or anything like?

1823
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 10: The Senior Bowl to me is like a very minor

1824
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 10: piece of the puzzle. I think the better thing for

1825
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 10: the Senior Bowl was they talked to the coaches and stuff.

1826
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 10: They get to sort of know people like what actually

1827
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 10: happens on the field.

1828
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 2: To me is well, practices are more important than the game.

1829
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, but it's largely irrelevant to me. To me, I

1830
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 10: mean a lot of people have different opinions, but I

1831
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 10: just meant as like one of those Day three kind

1832
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 10: of quarterbacks.

1833
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 3: As he got anything. I heard some people.

1834
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 4: Talking about, you know, he's he's a rhythm thrower, like

1835
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 4: he's an on time passer, a guy that has some accuracy, but.

1836
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 3: Kind of a mobile pocket down.

1837
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think I read somewhere he can move around

1838
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 4: a little bit. I'm trying to think of a good comparison.

1839
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 4: He's he's not very physically, you know, he doesn't have

1840
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 4: a great arm.

1841
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1842
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 10: I will say I've seen Tulane play a handful of

1843
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 10: times and have not been impressed with him, you know,

1844
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 10: like he didn't stand out to me. Tulane's one of

1845
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 10: those teams that tends to be on on the yeah,

1846
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 10: you know, and like those different windows at different.

1847
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 3: Times, I was, oh Tulane, you know, and you watch it.

1848
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing with him, the reason why

1849
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 4: he struggled at the Senior Bowl, is that he is

1850
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 4: a guy that needs to be on time because he

1851
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 4: doesn't have great arm talent. So in Tulane, when he's

1852
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 4: in this offense for years, he's he can be on

1853
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 4: script all the time and it works. But once he

1854
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 4: got to the Senior Bowl and he was a little tickulate,

1855
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 4: heretickulate there. That's when he started to struggle. He's your

1856
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 4: typical fourth round, early day three back, serviceable backup type

1857
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 4: of quarterback.

1858
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: Ford and Savannah. With the recent success of the Chase

1859
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: Burrow combo, we could get a baby version of this

1860
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 2: UH with if we drafted Dunze in Pennix. I'd love

1861
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 2: a quarterback with the third pick. However, if they aren't

1862
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 2: thrilled with whoever's left, a trade down to get Rome

1863
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:57,759
Speaker 2: at Dunze and then possibly back up to get Pennix

1864
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 2: could be the best option overall UH more than the

1865
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 2: injury history having one of his worst games on the

1866
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 2: national stages keeping him wildly undervalued when he could end

1867
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 2: up as the best quarterback in this draft. How much

1868
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 2: do you all think college chemistry is worth between high

1869
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 2: draft picks at the quarterback and wide receiver position.

1870
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 6: A little bit.

1871
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 8: But I think Dunesday is a beast and he's gonna

1872
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 8: probably click with just about anybody.

1873
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 4: It helps you hit the ground running, There's no doubt.

1874
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 10: About it doesn't hurt he has a rapport with one

1875
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:28,879
Speaker 10: of his top receivers.

1876
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,959
Speaker 8: I mean, how can how can that be a bad transition?

1877
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 6: A little bit?

1878
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 9: Burrow and Chase was that was an impeccable thing for

1879
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 9: him to be able.

1880
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: To do that.

1881
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 10: But I think there's just as good a chance of

1882
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 10: him being the worst quarterback out of the top five too.

1883
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 3: Like I don't like.

1884
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 10: You can talk yourself into whoever, whoever they take, Tom

1885
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 10: telling you right now when a forecast, whatever they take,

1886
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 10: is going to be the guy everybody talks themselves into

1887
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 10: Pennex A low floor, high ceiling guy.

1888
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 4: Uh. I would say he's more of a floor guy.

1889
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 2: I think he's a high floor Yeah, Oh you think

1890
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 2: he's a high floor. Well, I thought he could be

1891
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 2: a boomer bust guy.

1892
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 10: Well, I think the email you're talking about playing, if

1893
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 10: he's healthy, I think he will not be a bust.

1894
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 4: He's he had. His on field concern is pressure. You know,

1895
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 4: he's not very mobile, he's not very he doesn't have

1896
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 4: great es capability, and he doesn't throw well off platform.

1897
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 10: So that's why I I sort of balked it when

1898
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 10: you said, like I like the try hard guys, Like,

1899
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 10: it's not about try hard, it's about having a skill

1900
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 10: set that's like base, like reach, the defense as well,

1901
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 10: good arm, throws accurately, like he has like this face

1902
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:39,600
Speaker 10: set of skills. Like that's not a try hard like J. J.

1903
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 10: McCarthy's not a try.

1904
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 4: Hard if he has a clean if Michael Pennix from

1905
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 4: a clean pocket is probably one of the best quarterbacks

1906
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 4: in this class. The second that you start to add

1907
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 4: the stuff around him, that's when it gets a little.

1908
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: That's Ben a try hard guy.

1909
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 3: He's just not very good.

1910
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:59,520
Speaker 2: Who's a try hard guyard.

1911
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 10: And he's one of the most athletic guys that you'll

1912
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 10: he's a try hard I'm gonna run around and be bamby.

1913
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna really do what I'm gay.

1914
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 2: All right, looking forward to that tomorrow. We'll see you Thursday.

1915
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