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Speaker 1: up down Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty right there? Rights the latest news

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Speaker 1: and notes from the guys who cover the teams. Rilled

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Speaker 1: by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, Bring

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Speaker 1: it on. Slam the ground by Fota Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 1: He came flying into the backfield. I scared and nobody

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Speaker 1: here's Paul Calvic. Let's just get one thing clear, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: With two games to go in the regular season, and

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Speaker 1: this situation that the Arizona Cardinals find themselves in right here,

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Speaker 1: right now, effective immediately, there's no room for any sort

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Speaker 1: Champagne problems with what to get the wife for Christmas? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean, of course she loved the bitcoin I got her.

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Speaker 1: She loves bitcoin. I might be sleeping in the guest

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Speaker 1: room right now, but she'll come to realize that's a

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Speaker 1: heck of an investment down the line at some point. Phelipe,

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Speaker 1: We don't doesn't matter if you've just discovered Tennessee whiskey

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna give us best practices and how to

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Speaker 1: drink said whiskey. Okay, no time for that, Darren. You know, okay,

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Speaker 1: you like to talk about my dad. No, you've you've goes,

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Speaker 1: You've closed down many a bar at the combine in

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Speaker 1: your prime. We know that. You know you can draw

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Speaker 1: up an out of bounds play with the best of them.

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Speaker 1: We don't have time for any of that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals find themselves in a situation right now that

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Speaker 1: demands everyone's full attention, does it. I think I see

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Speaker 1: where you're going with a Paul, and for once I

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Speaker 1: agree with you. It's right. The urgency around here has

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Speaker 1: to ramp up, starting with thyself. Pauh you just mentioned bitcoin.

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Speaker 1: Do I get bitcoin from working here ten plus years

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Speaker 1: out at at some point in my career that you

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Speaker 1: have bitcoin? Or maybe your spouse will get it for

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Speaker 1: you when they run out of Christmas ideas. Okay, down

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Speaker 1: the line, that's something maybe you can enjoy your forties

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Speaker 1: and of course keeping his focus as much as possible

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Speaker 1: as I did. Enjoy the tweet that I saw recently

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Speaker 1: like a from a building they have like an in

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Speaker 1: building message board. And it was Christmas morning, and this

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Speaker 1: guy said, I will pay a premium for a Christmas

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Speaker 1: gift for a woman, prefer jewelry or something, some nice

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Speaker 1: This is like seven h four am Christmas morning. That

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Speaker 1: is procrastination right there. Okay, so all right, so let's

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Speaker 1: use that is the brometer. The benchmark is the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: urgency and desperation at this point above or below that

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Speaker 1: Felipe m two games left in the season there to

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Speaker 1: I think the urgency is higher in this regard. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how fun you can get higher than

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Speaker 1: seven h four Christmas morning and you didn't buy your

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Speaker 1: significant other a gift? Well, okay, it matters are you

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Speaker 1: waking up to you next year significant another? Because significant

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Speaker 1: another can be a girlfriend and I don't live with

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Speaker 1: and the urgency wouldn't have been that highest. You know,

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Speaker 1: to Felipe's girlfriend, you better check this stuff out because

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Speaker 1: I don't know either that, or you're looking at this

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Speaker 1: speaking of bitcoin, is a short term or long term?

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Speaker 1: What is your investment horizon here in this relationship, Phelipe?

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Speaker 1: I guess that's a We won't go there either. You're

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Speaker 1: There's enough trouble to be had around here. Okay, Felipe

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Speaker 1: you know who Nancy Kerrigan is? Just Chuck Tanya Hardy,

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Speaker 1: Nancy Kerrigan, Felipe, you know what that's on you? Because

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Speaker 1: believe way back in September that the Cardinals lot in

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Speaker 1: life this season has already been preordained to face their

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Speaker 1: the way it's going to work out. The football gods

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Speaker 1: to play a postseason game against BA and the Tampa

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Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. I mean, it doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: be the first round, doesn't Darren. If you want to

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Speaker 1: how the football guys operate? Okay, I'm just Paulli pawn

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Speaker 1: and that would include a first round for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: If they go on the road, they could still play.

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Speaker 1: They could end up playing the Cowboys again. They could

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Speaker 1: if the Rams lose one, the Cardinals control their own destiny.

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Speaker 1: Then they would have to just win their last two.

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Speaker 1: interesting to see how it plays out. Um, I mean

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Speaker 1: the thing is like we're trying to figure out where

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Speaker 1: I mean, just like in fantasy football, for those that

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Speaker 1: LEC isn't necessarily on our side. I mean, just thinking

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Speaker 1: the question that you pose. But even the Bucks. I

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Speaker 1: By the way, what if Chris Streveler, what if mandatory

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Speaker 1: Cardinals schedule, there's seventeen game season, but there's actually eighteen opponents. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you will. Complacency has set in again. Did we

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Speaker 1: and they're going to figure it out, or is this

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Speaker 1: Is it complacency? Is that? Is that what has happened here?

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Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like everything is sped up. That was

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Speaker 1: you only scored sixteen points. Now, they had a couple

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Speaker 1: of failed fourth downs, which are essentially whatever. But but

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Speaker 1: you you don't have Carson Wentz throwing the most unbelievable

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Speaker 1: touchdown pass on third down where he's going against his

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Speaker 1: body and somehow throws a strike on a night that

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Speaker 1: for most of the snaps right before that, he was

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Speaker 1: throwing worm burners and airmail and stuff, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: think he had that throw in him. So yeah, but

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Speaker 1: he was also smart enough to do things like on

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Speaker 1: a key third down he found his third string tight

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Speaker 1: end mo Alley Cox in space against Joe Walker, who

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Speaker 1: then turned it up the sideline for thirty plus yard. Now,

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Speaker 1: I will say this if you watch that play, and

438
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Speaker 1: this is what has happened to the Cardinals a lot.

439
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: Joe Walker got caught up in the wash, and that's

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Speaker 1: the problem They've sent out. Cox came out late and

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Speaker 1: then he waits for all the congestion there. So Joe

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Speaker 1: Walker's already behind the eight ball because he's having to

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Speaker 1: get around four bodies before he even gets into coverage.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's where that's where the pass rush has

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Speaker 1: to get there. Exactly. You know, the keyword in your

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Speaker 1: explanation that it was weight. He had the ability to

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Speaker 1: wait for these routes to develop and then go through

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Speaker 1: his reads. And when you end up with two sacks,

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Speaker 1: one is on a safety blitz by Buddha Baker, then

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Speaker 1: guess what, You're not getting enough pressure on a quarterback

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Speaker 1: who had and it's six five, two forty. He has

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Speaker 1: the ability to hang in the pocket. Yep. You know

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Speaker 1: there's a reason he was selected number two overall. He

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Speaker 1: does have the measurables, and he does have the skill

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Speaker 1: set and in this game in particular, well, guess what

456
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Speaker 1: he did exactly what Frank Wrych said he was going

457
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Speaker 1: to need to do at some point in the season.

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Speaker 1: Where get this is before the game, before the game,

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Speaker 1: before the game, Frank Reich said, and he almost spoke

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Speaker 1: it into existence when he said, at some point, Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz is gonna have to be the star for this team.

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is gonna have to win a game. And honestly,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna go ahead and give that offensive game

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Speaker 1: ball to anyone. It would have been their quarterback probably,

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Speaker 1: But I mean, what did he do to impress you?

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Speaker 1: I mean, is it just yeah? I mean, I honestly

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Speaker 1: don't think he had this extraordinary game. He didn't have

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Speaker 1: an extraordinary game, but he had he must stake free football.

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Speaker 1: He made mistake free football, and he threw that touchdown

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Speaker 1: pass that won them the game, which was a hell

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Speaker 1: of a play. Here's the thing, Felipe, and this is

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Speaker 1: a very to me. This is a dangerous way to

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Speaker 1: go in there. You know. I feel like the vibe

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Speaker 1: you're given is like the Cardinals lost this game. The

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Speaker 1: Colts didn't win it, which is fine, there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: with that. But eventually, especially when you're on a losing streak,

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Speaker 1: and I've been through a lot of losses around this

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Speaker 1: team over the years, a lot of wins, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of losses, you know, eventually you can't keep saying, well,

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Speaker 1: it's us, we should have won that game and we

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Speaker 1: lost it. I mean, well, look, there's winning football, which

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Speaker 1: is what the Colts are playing. They came in number

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Speaker 1: one in turnover ratio plus fourteen. They came in with

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Speaker 1: a second fewest penalties. And then there's what Kyler called,

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Speaker 1: not me, what Kyler called after the game, quote bad football.

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Speaker 1: That's what the Cardinals. And let me just sneak this,

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Speaker 1: and I know you're gonna go, but just to make

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Speaker 1: the point, if Kyler Murray had the game Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: had and they won, and he did it with four

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Speaker 1: of the starting offensive lineman not playing, you'd be praising

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Speaker 1: the hell out of Kyler Murray right now, right. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 1: I changed him against the Browns and he didn't have

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Speaker 1: his coach and anything like that. I mean, but that's

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Speaker 1: it's different between having your coach and have an offensive

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Speaker 1: linement in my opinion. But that's that's just me once again.

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Speaker 1: At moments like this, I prefer to look at the standings.

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Speaker 1: I like to print them out, and I like to

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Speaker 1: look at the Nfcust standings and uh, well, let Wolf

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Speaker 1: handle the readers, the guys in denial. I mean, come on, Wolf,

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Speaker 1: you don't if I have to explain the menu to

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Speaker 1: you out of a restaurant one more time. So I

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Speaker 1: like to look at the NFC West standings. I like

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Speaker 1: to look at the last place, so you know, if

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Speaker 1: you because We're all truly blessed this holiday season to

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Speaker 1: have the Seattle Seahawks in last place? Are we not? So? Okay?

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Speaker 1: If I'm looking for holiday silver lining. I actually thought

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Speaker 1: of you part because once they were eliminated from playoff contention,

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Speaker 1: you came to my mind. I remember how you were

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Speaker 1: trashing the Seahawks. Yeah, I know how mad? How mad

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Speaker 1: he disliked the sign holder over there at lumen Field

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Speaker 1: and we're not so, I'll admit I thought of you. Well,

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Speaker 1: that and the fact that their first round pick belongs

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Speaker 1: to the Jets and it's currently number six overall. Hashtag out.

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Speaker 1: So here's the question for you, guys. Is this two

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Speaker 1: thousand and twenty one Cardinals team tracking to be a

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and twenty Steelers who started eleven and

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Speaker 1: oz and flamed out? Be the two thousand and eight

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals who flamed out at the end and then

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Speaker 1: made a run in the postseason, or, as Wolf added

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Speaker 1: when I posed this question, options see the two thousand

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Speaker 1: and twenty Arizona Cardinals. Where is this season going? Well,

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Speaker 1: I can already tell you they're not the two thousand

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Speaker 1: and twenty Arizona Cardinals. I don't know what the how

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Speaker 1: Wolf's talking about. They just clinched a playoff spot. That

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Speaker 1: is true. That is true. They can't be They would

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Speaker 1: have to be the Steelers if they lose their first

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Speaker 1: playoff game. They can't be the twenty twenty Cardinals because

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty Cardinals didn't make the postseason period. End

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Speaker 1: of story, Okay, And that's how I feel about it,

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Speaker 1: because I understand you don't want to back in. But

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Speaker 1: I agree with a lot of the fans, which is

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Speaker 1: the you're in the playoffs isn't because the Rams beat

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Speaker 1: the Vikings. That's that happened to be the equation that

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Speaker 1: finished it. But the reason you're in the playoffs is

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Speaker 1: because you have ten wins. Cardinals only at eight last year.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I'm not going to sit here

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Speaker 1: and say, if they lose these next two games and

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Speaker 1: lose the playoffs that it was a great season, because obviously,

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00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: because of the way it started, you wouldn't term it

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Speaker 1: that way. But you can't. You can't sit here and

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Speaker 1: say at this point they're not better than last year.

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Speaker 1: Because of the improvement in the wins and the way

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Speaker 1: they've they've made it into the playoffs. I mean, for

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Speaker 1: for all the struggles they've had of late, how many

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Speaker 1: ten win teams do we have in the NFL right now? Okay,

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Speaker 1: you count on in one hand, can't you still five?

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Speaker 1: I think it's or is it five? In the NFC?

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Speaker 1: I think it's just the Cardinals Tampa Dallas because I

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Speaker 1: think the Chiefs only have nine hackers. She's still only

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Speaker 1: have nine. Okay, so there's five teams out of thirty

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Speaker 1: two have ten wins. And look for the I'm told

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Speaker 1: that somebody on the air in this town said the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals do not just deserved to make the playoffs. Let

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Speaker 1: me come on, there's like a petition starting and everything

555
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Speaker 1: like that. I mean, really really don't deserve. Let's I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to give it a lot of oxygen. But

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a petition. It was a it was a

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Speaker 1: faux article of somebody pretending like there was a petition.

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Speaker 1: There's a difference. Okay, that's that's faux. I Q is

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Speaker 1: what that is. I mean, I mean, you know, if

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Speaker 1: so you win your first seven versus maybe like losing

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Speaker 1: your last seven, either way, you get through a certain

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Speaker 1: win total. If you want to look at teams that

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Speaker 1: don't deserve to be in the postseason. Look at it.

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Speaker 1: There's like ten sub five hundred teams right now who

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Speaker 1: are still eligible, and within a game of the postseason,

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Speaker 1: it's that seventh and final playoff spot. If you want

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Speaker 1: to argue a team isn't worthy of the postseason, it

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Speaker 1: would be whatever team fills that slot and checks that box.

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Speaker 1: And if we're gonna sit here and say a team

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Speaker 1: deserves to be like, what does that mean? Like, so

572
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: now you have to win x number of games and

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Speaker 1: be playing really well at the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: That makes no sense to me. And again the two

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00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: thousand and eight Cardinals showed that, you know, that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a lame way to look at it, because things change.

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00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: The two thousand and ten Seahawks won a freaking playoff

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Speaker 1: game when they were seven and nine. Now do I

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Speaker 1: think of some five hundred tams should get the plaofs

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00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't. But that's neither here nor there. They won

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Speaker 1: a playoff game. By the way, the team in between

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00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight and two thousand and ten that

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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, the two thousand and nine Saints,

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Speaker 1: just comes straight from Craig Grigolo the Big Brain on

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Speaker 1: Craig Grigolou. The Saints lost their last three games that

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Speaker 1: year and went on to win the Super Bowl. So

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00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: it's not absolute that you have to be playing good

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Speaker 1: football quote unquote to make a good run in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: How does it happen with frequency? Absolutely not, It's it

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Speaker 1: would be the exception to the rule. But it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: disqualify you from people thinking you are worthy of the postseason.

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Speaker 1: That's so hot. Take it's it's so Was it Skip

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Speaker 1: Bayless who said that Teak I should on this podcast?

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Speaker 1: Can it be a combination of old team Zone two

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00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: thousand and eight Cardinals and then last year Steelers? Or

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Speaker 1: was it last year Steelers? Because I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're going into these last two games, you're gonna go

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Speaker 1: into the postseason. You're gonna get Ronnie Hudson back, You're

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Speaker 1: gonna get James Connor back. Uh. Andy Lee of course

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Speaker 1: at m VP of this Arizona Cardinals team in my opinion,

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00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: so at the end of the day, you're still getting better.

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00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait wait did you just say Andy

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Speaker 1: Lee was the MVP of the team. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to sneak that in there after Saturday for four minutes. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: that's a hot take, Darren Can I have my own

606
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: version of a hot take the team. Now, I'm just kidding,

607
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: but they're gonna get this these veteran leadership back And

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Speaker 1: if there's something that this locker room keeps talking about,

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Speaker 1: it's always Hey, the veterans of this team have to

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Speaker 1: get this team right, didn't. Chase Edmonds literally mentioned that

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Speaker 1: in his postgame pressure that they have to depend on

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Speaker 1: their veterans to truly get the team back on track.

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned the guys are gonna get back. Let's

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Speaker 1: say you win a playoff game. Now you could potentially

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Speaker 1: get the Yanja Hopkins back at some point in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: So there's silver linings everything. And in my opinion, Rodney

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Speaker 1: Hudson was needed, especially in that offensive line. We mentioned

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Speaker 1: five pre snap penalties. There's a crucial fourth and one.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys remember that fourth and one that the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals had that I believe Josh Josh Jones got the

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Speaker 1: bus start and it turned into a fourth and six.

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Speaker 1: They pass it out to Zach Garrett if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 1: So you know, these little mistakes, especially when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the offensive line kind of showing their youth, you know,

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Speaker 1: in a way. So getting these these veterans back because

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Speaker 1: it'll be much needed. So Kelvin Beecham recently on the

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Speaker 1: Big Red Rage and we mentioned the DeAndre Hopkins was out,

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson was out, and he almost stopped a Smith's

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Speaker 1: sentence and he said, that's my guy, that's the guy

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Speaker 1: that we could really use back. And it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Now you could see his viewpoint because he's an offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: but he called Ronnie Hudson the anchor and the album

633
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Speaker 1: fun Okay as much a security blanket as Rodney Hudson is,

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Speaker 1: does it even go further than that? Because if you're

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Speaker 1: looking at okay, what's wrong with Kyler? We're talking about

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Speaker 1: a guy who led the NFL for much of this season,

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Speaker 1: and completion percentage and passer rating and yards per attempt,

638
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: none of that has been there recently. But you can

639
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: correlate it to the absence of his center, and to me,

640
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. I've never played NFL quarterback.

641
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: This just in, but if I'm in the gunner, I'm

642
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: under center, and I am worried, terrified that ninety nine's

643
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: of the world are coming through the A gap with impunity,

644
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: and I have no real confidence that my guys are

645
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: going to get those guys stopped. Then, yeah, that might

646
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: mean me a little unsettled as well, and it might

647
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: throw off my accuracy a little bit. It might prevent

648
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: me from seeing the field as everyone likes to say,

649
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: which I always believe. I'm not exactly sure what that

650
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: means other than I guess it's code for are you

651
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: sitting there and going through your reads and progressions and

652
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: going with where your reads take you to the guy

653
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: who's open? Because remember those games, like in Chicago he

654
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: threw it fifteen times, he had eleven completions to eight

655
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: different receivers. You're just not seeing that brand of ball

656
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: from your quarterback. And when you look at the other

657
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: two Pro Bowl quarterbacks in the NFC, what do they

658
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: do best when the times are tough and their rosters

659
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: are depleted. They find a way, do they not? Aaron

660
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: Rodgers came into State Farm Stadium minus top three receivers

661
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: and he engineered to win. Tom Brady, coming off a

662
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: heinous loss against the Saints nine nothing. He figured it

663
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: out without Mike Evans without Chris Godwin. He's throwing touchdown

664
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: passes to the second string tight end and they got

665
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: some fifty five yard touchdown run from a fourth string

666
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: running back. That, to me is what's not happening to

667
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: the Cardinals or for the Cardinals as they go through

668
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: this tough stretch which every team has gone through, when

669
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: you're missing Look at what the Colts are missing in

670
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: that game when they found out game day, they're missing

671
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: arguably the defensive player of the year and Darius Leonard,

672
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: and they're catalyst on defense, and they still figured it out.

673
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: I agree, and I and I do think there's there

674
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: is some of that. There is like, Okay, you know,

675
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: we we talk about the adversity, but the thing was was,

676
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: up until this streak, Kyler didn't figure out any of

677
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: the adversity, right because he got hurt in the Packers loss,

678
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: So he didn't play the next game, and he didn't

679
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: play in the Panthers game, and he didn't play in

680
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: the game after that. So the first loss that Kyler

681
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: Murray had to deal with was the Rams loss, and

682
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: we followed it up with two more losses. So I

683
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: think it's a I think it's a fair question of

684
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: kind of where Kyler's head is it right now? Now?

685
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: Are we examining his body language? No, I don't. I

686
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: don't put much of any merit into that. I just don't.

687
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just there's obviously a different confidence level.

688
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: You're talking about a team that on the road you

689
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: could hear them chanting undefeated from the locker room. So

690
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, after the Colts win with all these backups.

691
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: After the game, you see the quote from t Y Hilton,

692
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: We've got a ton of ways to beat you. You

693
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: just picked the way you want to get beat. That's

694
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: t Y Holton. That's the kind of confidence the Cardinals

695
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 1: had earlier in the year. You mean, like when JJ

696
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: Watt was on the sideline saying, we're just thank you

697
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: better ye, thank you. So I'm curious to see what

698
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 1: the Cardinals look like with Ronnie Hudson back, especially against

699
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense. I mean, if you want a team MVP,

700
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Dan Quinn to think of

701
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: how historically bad that Cowboys defense was a year ago

702
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: and what they're doing right now at all three levels

703
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: of that Cowboys defense. It is night and day, is

704
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: it not? But I mean who have they played. That's

705
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: my thing is I was just looking at the schedule

706
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: and I believed their last quality win, in my opinion,

707
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: came and we either six or nine against the Patriots.

708
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: Other than that, I mean they played the Washington football

709
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: team they played. I'm trying to remember. Obviously the division games.

710
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: They're nine and one against the NFC, but obviously they're

711
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: in the weakest division in the NFC, so you know,

712
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: in terms of out of division or out of conference

713
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: opponents and big wins. I haven't looked at the full

714
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: scope of the season, but Dak Prescott was playing some

715
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: very mediocre football until they put a fifty burger on

716
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: Washington in this last game. But does that mean anything

717
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: to you? He got well in a hurry. So is

718
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: that a one game sample against a really poor, struggling,

719
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: dysfunctional team that's fighting itself on the sideline and feels

720
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: the need to bring their own benches to Dallas when

721
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: the roof is closed and it's climate controlled, and obviously

722
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: they're distracted by a bunch of minution and stuff that

723
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with football. As a billionaire squabble

724
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: in the owners offices of those two franchises So I

725
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: don't know how much you can read into that Cowboys

726
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: win other than there's a lot of talent on that

727
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: field on both sides of the ball for the Cowboys. Well,

728
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: I mean, Rodney Hudson or no Rodney Hudson, I think

729
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: you have. It has to give you pause going up

730
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: against the way the offensive line is played of late

731
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, and it's not like they've been terrible,

732
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: but you know, they've given up pressure and if Kyler

733
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: is indeed uncomfortable right now back there now again, that's

734
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: where things, I mean, the Cowboys are gonna want. In

735
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: my opinion, they're gonna want to play some man a man.

736
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: They've got the digs back there. That's more than a

737
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: dozen teams in the NFL. But I think they're gonna

738
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: want to play some some man a man. You gotta

739
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: be careful about some stuff. But that's where Kyler becomes

740
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: such a threat if he can run a little bit.

741
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: You know, last year the Cardinals womped on the Cowboys,

742
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: and their defense is much better and their offense is

743
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: definitely much better. Um, but Kyler. Kyler had a couple

744
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: big plays, but he didn't have a great game. Um Again,

745
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: they got turnovers, yep. And and they played from the lead.

746
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: And I harkened back again to what zach Ertz said

747
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: after Lions game, which was this defense is built to

748
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: play with the lead. And again that's what they didn't

749
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: do against the Colts for the most part. And when

750
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: they did and they finally got the lead at thirteen

751
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: to twelve, they got to stop. It was just the

752
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: problem was again the Cardinals go three and out, and

753
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: then the Colts go down and get a field goal,

754
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: and then it's it's all slugging slug fest. So you know,

755
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: I just when it comes to the Cowboys, I think

756
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: this is going to be an incredibly interesting game. I

757
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: think Kyler gets hyped for games in Dallas. He plays

758
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: well in Dallas. I think it gives him some confidence

759
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: just period doing it. But I also know that this

760
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: is a much better Cowboys team than the one he

761
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: saw last year. There are two throws I remember from

762
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: that Monday night jack stomping to the Cowboys last year

763
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: thirty eight to ten. One was the fingertip grabbed by

764
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk the eighty yard where he threw his hands

765
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: out at the very last moment, and that really was

766
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: the difference to hear him explain it because it was

767
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: a fingertip grab. The other one was when he incomprehensibly

768
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: airmailed Larry Fitzgerald in the back of the end, so

769
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: he missed him by like a good ten feet. That

770
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: still is probably the most perplexing throw I've seen Kyler

771
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: and his three years in the NFL, Like what just happened? Yeah,

772
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: I think fitz was thinking the same thing at the time.

773
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: I will say that when you think back and again,

774
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: the last one of these didn't really mean it. Actually,

775
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: the last two of these didn't mean a whole lot.

776
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: But the final score is thirty eight to ten. But

777
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: they got three touchdowns. They got an eighty yard or

778
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: to Kirk, They got the well, wasn't a touchdown but

779
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: a super long catching run to DeAndre Hopkins late in

780
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: the game because hop wasn't getting the ball. I think

781
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: he was a little frustrated himself. He got the ball,

782
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: and then there was a long run by a touchdown

783
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: run by Kenyan Drake at the very end when the

784
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: game was essentially over. So again, I think defensively they

785
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: played really well last year. I think offensively they were okay.

786
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean Obviously you don't take away the big plays,

787
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 1: but it's not like they were a machine last year

788
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: in that game. It just looks like it on the

789
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: stat page and on the scoreboard, but if you actually

790
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: watch the game play out, it wasn't quite like that.

791
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: Going back to the mist of Fits, there was there's

792
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: just a little not quite there, and it looked like

793
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: sometimes that Kyler did get a little too hype for

794
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: the situation, you know, like, oh my god, I'm back

795
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: in Dallas, Let's make all these big plays. Speaking of

796
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: back in Dallas, I have a trivia question for Philippe.

797
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Who's Tanya Harding? Name the member of

798
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals roster who was in the Texas High

799
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: School Football Hall of Fame. Think about the quarterback room. Okay,

800
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: Texas high school football legends right now? Plural? Which member

801
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: is in the Texas High School Football Hall of Fame?

802
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: Is it Colt? It is not Kelvin Beacham. It is

803
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: not not Beacham, Kyler too soon, He's not in Kingsbury.

804
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury is in the Texas High School Hall of Fame.

805
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: So I gave you a little switcherof for you guys,

806
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: you guys, you guys think at this point of the season, though,

807
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: they really believe in that, like returning a Dallas hype,

808
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: you think Kyler May buying into that Kyler Murray yeah,

809
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: oh hell yeah, oh yeah. At this point in the season,

810
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: they're ye playing not the greatest football let me repeat Philippe, Yes,

811
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: I honestly just don't believe it. I mean, there's too

812
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: much on the line right now for him to be

813
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: focused on. Okay, I'm going back to Dallas. I haven't

814
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: lost that Cowboys stadium in my career. I don't know,

815
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: at least for me, it wouldn't if I was the

816
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback of this. I've never played quarterback like Paul.

817
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know, like, let's say, Okay,

818
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: when you get the big network job and you're working

819
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: in New York or La okay, and you're in you're

820
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: hosting the super Bowl broadcast, and then all of a sudden,

821
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that you happens to be in Phoenix

822
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: and you come back home and you're doing the broadcast

823
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: from Phoenix. There's that an extra layer there for you. Huh,

824
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: there's not a little bit extra little something there for

825
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: when you're back in your hometown. See, that's that's a

826
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: very that's a good hypothetical, Like I want that to manifest.

827
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: But I'm talking in I don't know, man, if there

828
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: was again playing and broadcasting obviously two different beasts, right,

829
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I just think his mind

830
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: is especially after hearing him in that postgame a press conference,

831
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: he was vividly frustrated. If you guys remember against the Rams,

832
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: he came in and I believe Darren asked him, like,

833
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't seem too you know, frustrated and whatnot, and

834
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: he was confident. He was like, yeah, we're still were

835
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: they ten and three? At that point he was to

836
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: where he upset or where it and whatnot. Then against

837
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: Detroit you saw him a little bit more frustrated, and

838
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: again but then again against the Colts, he came in

839
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: and he was you know, he's honest, it was. It

840
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: was bad football. So in my head, he's thinking about

841
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: just going out there and turning the ship around it.

842
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: In my opinion, well, remember he's unbeaten in the building,

843
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: right forty three and oh in high school overall, and

844
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: between high school and college an NFL, he's seven and

845
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: oh so, I mean, look, if one of the problems

846
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: of this team has been guys have been pressing, and

847
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: whether that's true or not, that's We've heard a number

848
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: of Cardinals players and coaches say that, Yeah, maybe guys

849
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: are trying to do too much and they're pressing in

850
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: the absence of other players. And now a three game

851
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: losing streak, in a four game losing streak at home,

852
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: we get it now, oh in five or the last

853
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: two years, trying to clinch. So there's plenty of narratives

854
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: out there that might lead guys to press. Okay, But

855
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: if you're looking for two guys to keep your eye

856
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: on in Dallas who want to perform, well, it's got

857
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: to be your play call or head coach and the

858
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: quarterback come on now, right, So we'll see if that's

859
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: a bigger part of the solution or maybe a bigger

860
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: part of the problem. If indeed pressing has been an issue.

861
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing that out there just in case. Now,

862
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: I asked for the Cowboys, and now they come out

863
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: in this one. They just clinched to the division. They're

864
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: eleven and four. Yes they're still playing for home field.

865
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: But the Packers seem to be rolling towards that inevitability.

866
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: So I mean, are you talking about a Cowboys team

867
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: that might have a letdown game of sorts at home

868
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: and they've played some inconsistent football this year. That's a

869
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: good question. It's funny, if the Cardinals were playing at

870
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: a really high level, it wouldn't be there. But now

871
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: does the things change a little bit? I mean, it's

872
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: sort of like your two thousand and eight right, what

873
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: Bill Davis? He says, one of the reasons we did

874
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: well in the postseason was because teams were looking at

875
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: our regular season film in the last four or five games. Stay, right,

876
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: So if the Cowboys are looking at recent Cardinals game film,

877
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: they're like, oh yeah, we don't even need to practice

878
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: this week, right, Whatever it would take for the Cardinals

879
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: to get a win, you know, I don't really care

880
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: at this point, all right, So do we need to

881
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: pose the question about COVID or not? What's going on?

882
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the NFL has already set record numbers of

883
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: positive cases. As we've been podcast, Paul, it came across

884
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: the Bruce Arians tested positive for COVIDS weekend. H oh boy, Okay,

885
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: all right, Well they had already, they had already been

886
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: getting hit, they already lost Kevin Garver, or good friend

887
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Garver, the receiver's coach, he had already tested positive.

888
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: And then I want to say there was a receiver

889
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: that got it to Oh, that's right, Mike Evans tested positive.

890
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: So again, the reason the reason I think we talk

891
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: about COVID is is because we always have to talk

892
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: about COVID because you never know what could happen as

893
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: we do this right now. Marcus Golden's on the list

894
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: as well as Andy Lee and Sean Harlow the backup guard,

895
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: and you don't know how things can change. Now this

896
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: is all going back and forth. CDC says this week

897
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: that now they're saying, if you're asymptomatic and vaccinated, I

898
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: believe it's vaccinated, definitely asymptomatic. You only really need to

899
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: quarantine for five days and then wear a mask for

900
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: five days rather than be out for ten days. And

901
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: now the league's including the NFL, are to look at

902
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: that and say, okay, maybe we do that. But the

903
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: key here is asymptomatic, asymptomatic, asymptomatic, and how hard hard

904
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: these teams go by that, and whether they are And

905
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, what's asymptomatic. I mean, if you've got just

906
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: a mild cough. I mean, to me, asymptomatic is you

907
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: can't even tell somebody sick but my you know, But

908
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: who knows if somebody just has this little mild cloth

909
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: to you and you're like, I feel fine and I

910
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: just have this little cough, are they going to look

911
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: at that as asymptomatic. But let's say this happens, then

912
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: maybe something changes. Maybe you know, you know, maybe Marcus

913
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: Golden who tested on a Monday, can be back from

914
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: a Sunday if they change this five day thing. And

915
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, don't you know, you know, Carson Wentz unvaccinated

916
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: test positive. Does that change something for somebody who's unvaccinated

917
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: or not. It's just a lot of things when we

918
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: talk about COVID and how it impacts stuff, Because the

919
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: bottom line is, guys, this is going to be around

920
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: for at least another couple of months in terms of

921
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: omicron and how how contagious it is, and no matter

922
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: what the rules end up being, there's a very very

923
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: good chance that one or many playoff games are going

924
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: to be impacted by somebody testing positive. When when you

925
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: say impact that being moved, or key players, or it

926
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: could be anything right that the playoffs is. You know,

927
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: it's one thing to move a regular season game. It's

928
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: another thing to want to start moving playoff games around

929
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: because you you can make a team, and you have

930
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: made a team play on short weeks. The Rams hell,

931
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: the Rams just played twice in five days with no

932
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: practice in one and both, So that's kind of a

933
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: pain in the ass. But but I mean, are you

934
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: gonna want a playoff team to have to play twice

935
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: in five days? I mean, there may not be a choice,

936
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: but that's that's definitely not what you want, or or

937
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: that playoff team as twenty plus guys in the COVID list,

938
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: what if that playoff team look like the Saints on

939
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, where I mean, not only do they

940
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: have their third string maybe four string quarterback, four string

941
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: and Ian Book Yeah, but then he's playing behind four

942
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: stringers on the offensive line. That kid had no chance

943
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: and half those offensive linemen had no place in the

944
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: NFL on Monday night football, and that that was bad

945
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: for the game. And that's what the shield. So what

946
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: do you do though, Like you can't you cannot move

947
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. That's locked in. Locked in Now. When

948
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: we had two thousand and one, they had the two

949
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: weeks between the NFC Championship AFC Championship games and the

950
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you were able to push back, so there

951
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: was just a week. And back in the day, there

952
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: was only just a week between the championship games and

953
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, so that wasn't that huge of a deal.

954
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: But we're so used to two weeks now. You you

955
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: have that little bit of playing time. But if it

956
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: can't be more than that, you can't. You can't. You're not.

957
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna have one opportunity to maybe mess with some

958
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: stuff one week. That's it, all right? Well, you know,

959
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: on that note, yeah, I mean you know it's a

960
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: good thing. On that note, also, based on the time,

961
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 1: you know, I was gonna offer you guys some free

962
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: value added advice on what your new Year's resolution should

963
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: be the way I see it as to what you

964
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: guys should focus on in twenty twenty two. But I'll

965
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: spare you. I'll spare you guys. Well we're trying to

966
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: stay focused. I thought you're gonna ask you my new

967
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: Year's resolution for the Cardinals. Oh, let's go. I got one,

968
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: all right, everybody's gonna throw one out. Felipe brought it up,

969
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: so he's gonna start here. We go that James Conner

970
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: comes back healthy and stays healthy the last weeks of

971
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: the season and heading into the into the postseason. Just

972
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: given on how Chase Edmonds performed on Saturday, got that

973
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: offense into really good you know, second and sixes and

974
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: third and two and fourth and one situations that I mean,

975
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: you start to think, what if they had James Connor

976
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: in certain situations, do you do the snaps to Chase

977
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: Edmonds on specific downs? Not? I'm assuming though you can

978
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 1: just hand it off to James Conner. You're not necessarily

979
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: worried about none of that. So James Connor, Rodney Hudson

980
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: coming back, those are two important pieces that to that

981
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: offense and their key for Kayler Moore married to perform

982
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: to the level that we're used to seeing in the

983
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: first eight weeks of the season. That's mine, all right, Well,

984
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: considering the Cardinals next game is in two twenty two,

985
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: it can be near term, it can be long term.

986
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: A resolution for the Arizona Cardinals in the new year.

987
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: Darren Urban, I'm gonna say absolutely take every precaution you

988
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: have to stay safe and not get COVID and not

989
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: have COVID rip up this roster like it's ripped up

990
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: about a third of the league already continues to do. Yeah,

991
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a little more specific and maybe a

992
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: little more personal. If you're talking about the offensive line.

993
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: Usually it's you know, maybe lose a few lbs the

994
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: New Year. Maybe the most popular resolution, and you know, everyone,

995
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: get your mind right for the New year. Resolutionists who

996
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: are going to be in the gym in January and

997
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: February get ready for that whole influx of the newcomers. Okay,

998
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go with something else. You know what,

999
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: The old line needs to shed false starts, Okay, because

1000
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: right now they have twenty four of them this year,

1001
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: and the only team that has more false starts all

1002
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: year is the Detroit Lions with twenty five. So you're

1003
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: threatening to lead the league in false starts. So, you

1004
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: know what, that's got a stink and change, And that's

1005
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: my New Year's resolution for the Cardinals. In twenty twenty two,

1006
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: it was hard to believe that as many false starts

1007
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: as they did at all in a home game I

1008
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: mean it's a season high, right once again the penalties

1009
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: I just said false till once again we've gone from

1010
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: no Lambeau to no complacency. And I think that's evidence thereof.

1011
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: In fact, it's a good thing that you know Paul

1012
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: pencil Neck is in the head coach, because I might

1013
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: have started the week just for the sake of cutting

1014
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: a guy. I would have cut a guy. I would

1015
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: have you know, I would have started the week by saying,

1016
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: you know what, Guess what, guys, there's something worse than

1017
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: losing games, and it's losing your job, whether it's on

1018
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: the depth chart or whether it's on the team, whether

1019
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: it's pack up your locker and get out, here's a box,

1020
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: pack it up. Honestly, I think I would not be

1021
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: opposed to that sort of kick in the rear sort

1022
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,959
Speaker 1: of urgency right now if it came in the form

1023
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: of the really one, trude and tried and bonafide way

1024
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: of motivating any pro athlete in any pro sport, and

1025
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: that is job security, I wouldn't have been opposed to

1026
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: that to start this year, and I probably shouldn't have

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