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Speaker 1: and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Right, Let's shore Alive on a football Friday edition of

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Speaker 2: the program. I am merely bow he is the great z.

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Speaker 3: How you living, buddy? Am I?

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Speaker 2: Here you go?

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Speaker 3: WHOA? There you go?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing just fine. How are your brother? I miss

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Speaker 2: the outaway sixty degrees and oh I'm here here not

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Speaker 2: in the same room. We have Yeah, we have chaos.

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Speaker 2: We've got uh. Beamsy is playing uh in youth basketball

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Speaker 2: tournament a morning uh, and NBC is getting the cast

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Speaker 2: on and so Bootsy is left to run amook and

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Speaker 2: the colors he going with didn't even discuss it. Didn't

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Speaker 2: even discuss it didn't discuss cast color. Is there a

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Speaker 2: what would you recommend?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I've never been I've never have you ever broken a limb?

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Speaker 4: Very fortunate, never been in a cast me either, I've

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Speaker 4: broken my nose, but never never anything that needed a cast.

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Speaker 3: Never anything that needed a cast.

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Speaker 4: Gibbe would make that look for Gibbe.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even here. I'm not even there, and he's.

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Speaker 4: Still I mean, everybody with eyes knows that I've got

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Speaker 4: a big nose.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. Hasn't heard hindered my life.

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Speaker 3: You know what else?

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Speaker 2: It means big brain. That's right, that's what they say.

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Speaker 2: Any broken things for you.

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Speaker 3: I've broken a lot of stuff, but not I don't

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Speaker 3: think anything that actually required a cat asked, like stress

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Speaker 3: fractures or I've been in a boot or ankle. You know,

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Speaker 3: I've never actually broken Yeah, I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 3: broken something that required a cast. I have a collarbone

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Speaker 3: that I bent playing tackle football. Like if you look

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Speaker 3: at me, yeah, if my shirt's off, it goes out

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Speaker 3: and comes back in. My collar bone is literally the

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Speaker 3: guy was like, the doc was like, look, we can

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Speaker 3: do one of two things. Nothing's ever going to happen

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Speaker 3: to it. Or two we can break it and reset it.

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Speaker 3: I go, why would I do that? Why would I

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Speaker 3: why would I read? Why would I want you to

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Speaker 3: break it? If nothing? Like, if it just looks weird,

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Speaker 3: I'm already weird looking, I'm fine. It'll just blend in.

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Speaker 2: My favorite thing. Like, I think it's amazing your feet

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Speaker 2: turn the way that they do. That's nuts. That's wild,

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Speaker 2: Like the knee situation is wild. Yeah, yeah, that's craziness.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe a black cast or a Hudson blue. Yeah, nice,

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Speaker 2: maybe a nice navy. Yeah, I think you want something

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Speaker 2: that people do. I wonder if the kids still get

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Speaker 2: them signed the cast?

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 4: By the way, great observation from enough from the clent,

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Speaker 4: he goes, give me his nose seems small relative to

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Speaker 4: his body.

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Speaker 3: I'm public school man, Like you're fine. I don't I'm

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Speaker 3: not nothing graduations clown. Come up with something better, your boy,

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Speaker 3: I expect more from you.

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Speaker 2: Fellas. It's fifty today, it's fifty. It is uh, it

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Speaker 2: is fifty degrees. Tomorrow is going to be sixty degrees.

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Speaker 2: When does the rain go on tomorrow?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You could. You could get your December golf round in. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it'd be sloppy, horses are opening. Yeah, you'd have to

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Speaker 2: wear like some hunter waiting boots. But like, fine, you

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Speaker 2: could do it. Be a lot of plug and play. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I got some golf balls to get rid of. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you could get your December round. You're going to lose plenty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be just detox day. It's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of them subterranean. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there is gonna When does the rain start? What's what

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Speaker 2: do we got for Sunday? Is it just gross? Just

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Speaker 2: rain all day? I know we'll do that later.

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Speaker 3: Forty yeah, forty eight hours out, Like the whole morning

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Speaker 3: is like ninety percent chance of rain, but it's like

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Speaker 2: Crazy, So it's not that different from Miami. It's basically

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Speaker 2: gonna rainbow. In case you're wondering, it's gonna.

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Speaker 4: Rain Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and it will turn into

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Speaker 4: snow Thursday and Friday.

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Speaker 2: That's when it's gonna be really fun when it flips

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Speaker 2: to snow. That's where the joy's gonna come. When you

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Speaker 2: have the ice underneath and then snow on top, that's

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Speaker 3: You just need a strong Nor'easter wind to kind of

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Speaker 3: like dry it out or give you the best chance

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Speaker 2: Can you guys wrap your head around this is our

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Speaker 2: last home game.

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Speaker 3: It's our last Friday of twenty twenty four. Also, how

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Speaker 4: And maybe we'll get some snow even on Wednesday, maybe

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Speaker 4: on the New Year's on the New Year's Day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild. It's a season. It's weird. This season.

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Speaker 4: In some ways has felt quick and in other ways

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Speaker 4: has felt incredibly incredibly, incredibly long. And for us, obviously,

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Speaker 4: you know now you're just playing out the string, as

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Speaker 4: they like to say. Yeah, and you know that's not

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Speaker 4: the most fun place to be for a football team.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, No, No, As we were going off the air yesterday,

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Speaker 2: everything's going together with me because of the football in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the week. I don't know, I didn't

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Speaker 2: know what day it was. The boys that know it

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Speaker 2: date like, what day of the week is today? That's

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Speaker 2: what they asked me to day and they got up,

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Speaker 2: what day of the week is? I got beamsyhead hoops

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Speaker 2: at eight forty five in the morning, which is ideal

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Speaker 2: on a Friday, and we ran out and he's like,

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Speaker 2: dam I even know what day it is? I said,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's Friday, Bud, I think it is.

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Speaker 2: But I was really thrown off by the by you

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Speaker 2: know that football in the middle of the week. And

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Speaker 2: and so yeah, the calendars a little backwards. All of

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Speaker 2: something by you. A dog of a game last night,

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Speaker 2: just dog awful, gross game. We'll get into the ratings

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Speaker 2: and stuff a little bit later. The NFL, I think,

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Speaker 2: had a perfect amount of games at sixteen and a

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Speaker 2: perfect amount of weeks at seventeen. The NFL used to

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Speaker 2: stay away from middle a week games, and I think

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Speaker 2: of the midweek games we saw this week, there was

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Speaker 2: one good half of football. That's it. That's it. There

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Speaker 2: was a lot of bad ball. Really was Oh the

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Speaker 2: Ravens weren't bad, but it was bad ball. The games

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Speaker 2: were bad. One team was engaged, the other was not.

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Speaker 3: It. That's it.

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Speaker 2: We're good. We'll see on down the road. And the

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Speaker 2: more I think about it is and wait till we do.

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Speaker 2: Like the scores, I mean, there's a last week was brutal,

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Speaker 2: bad games on Sunday. There's it's like one or two

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Speaker 2: one week that was kind of like this, But now

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Speaker 2: we've it's we got two. You got two weeks where

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Speaker 2: there's two or three games to pay attention to, and

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Speaker 2: everybody else is just kind of playing it out and

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Speaker 2: you don't know where the effort is. Look, everyone is

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Speaker 2: going to clamor to the NFL. The ratings are gonna

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Speaker 2: be huge. I understand that. But in terms of quality

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Speaker 2: of play and oversaturation, are is this league doing too much? No,

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Speaker 2: it's not.

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Speaker 4: It's just unfortunately, there's just some bad ball right now.

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Speaker 4: Last night was bad. But I mean Kansas City, Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: and Baltimore. He's those are four playoff teams. You've got

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Speaker 4: one good half five seeds in the AFC. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I know, but you got one good half of football.

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Speaker 4: Baltimore looked. I would Baltimore dominate Houston like I guess.

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Speaker 4: And you're saying a good game is a competitive game.

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Speaker 4: Last night's was a competitive game is a three point game.

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Speaker 2: But it sucked. Its terrible. It was awful.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Seattle does Seattle gives up three points and

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Speaker 4: doesn't even cover, Like, give me a break.

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Speaker 2: By the way, great ball.

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Speaker 4: Just want to say congratulations to to Bowen's on his

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Speaker 4: AFFL championship. I mean, Mike, you talk about a team

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Speaker 4: i'd been back to back weeks of a buck fifty

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Speaker 4: and I said to my partners soon, I said, it's

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Speaker 4: not good to be the highest scoring team in the

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Speaker 4: first round and second round the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Not good.

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Speaker 2: I mean Jackson Smith and Jigba has been a monster.

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Speaker 4: Three catches for thirty yards came Fairbairn is a top

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Speaker 4: five kicker all year, doesn't get a point. Nico does

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Speaker 4: nothing against the Ravens in a game where they're getting

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Speaker 4: blown out. That's supposed to be a stat accumulation game.

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Speaker 4: In the second half they play prevent and you keep

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Speaker 4: your stars out there and ever you know, he get

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Speaker 4: him a two hundred yard game or something.

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Speaker 2: So that's a bummer. But yeah, last night dreadful.

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Speaker 4: And the crazy thing is the Bears scored three points

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Speaker 4: that Caleb Williams made some of the most unbelievable throws

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think we had that at the

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Speaker 2: have Obviously they should have reset that thing completely when

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Speaker 2: they drafted him. It was really stupid to not do that.

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Speaker 2: They had opportunity. Now basically they did a Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: They basically wasted a year of him and you hope

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Speaker 2: it didn't do permanent damage to him, that it didn't

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Speaker 2: make him. Maybe he never comes out of it because

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Speaker 2: that stuff's in play.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I do think I think it's bad. I think it

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Speaker 2: was a lot of bad ball. I think last Sunday

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Speaker 2: was a lot of bad ball. I thought the game's

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Speaker 2: the one good half of football is kind of what

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Speaker 2: you got. You're right, Baltimore dominated, But I just there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of teams that are out of it and

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Speaker 2: have been out of it for a while. And there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of teams they're just playing it out. I mean,

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Speaker 2: some of these games this weekend just suck.

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Speaker 3: Are terrible. Nine teams with four wins or less.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, here's the other part of it. And

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Speaker 2: we started this a little bit with what we did

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Speaker 2: of did it that way. That's, hey, if we're not

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Speaker 2: gonna win I'm talking about fifteen sixteen that time. If

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Speaker 2: you're not going to be in the playoffs, then there's

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Speaker 2: no point in being six and ten in those days.

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Speaker 2: There's no value in it. So if you're gonna be

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Speaker 2: bad at nine and seventeen, right, go all the way

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Speaker 2: in and be bad and draft at the top and

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Speaker 2: roll the dice at the top of the draft. And

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Speaker 2: that's something that you didn't used to see a whole

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Speaker 2: lot in this league. There'd be one or two teams

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Speaker 2: that would do it. But remember I talked about this

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Speaker 2: all the way back in August. How many teams could

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Speaker 2: off ramp to a tank. How many teams have done

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Speaker 2: how many teams could look at a season go, this

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Speaker 2: ain't going right, Like the Giants perfectly executed this. Yep,

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Speaker 2: the Raiders perfectly executed this until they didn't. They won

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Speaker 2: one game they shouldn't have won. But there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of examples of these teams. I mean Jacksonville, the Titans

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Speaker 3: Hey, shout out to the bowl group that decided let's

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Speaker 2: And so the Rose Bowl has to play at five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: And the reason that they cow tell to them is

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying there's nobody at there's but it

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Speaker 3: And that's all it is.

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Speaker 3: And you're putting these quote Marquee games on on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: This is not going to happen again for a long time.

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Speaker 3: That's my problem. Like I was watching BG on ESPN

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Speaker 3: and battled every week.

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Speaker 4: He's a he's a complete I mean he was before

437
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 4: he missed that Niners game coming out of the by

438
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 4: a year ago, he was, you know, on his way

439
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 4: to doing a you know, half like streak. So he's

440
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 4: got next year he has would be fourteen million, there's

441
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 4: a six million dollar option, three million dollar roster bonus,

442
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 4: the restructure two million, signing two million, and the base

443
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 4: salary be one point twenty five and then he's got

444
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Speaker 4: void years in twenty six, twenty seven, twenty nine.

445
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Speaker 2: I was curious to see what.

446
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 4: You know, it's if he retires, obviously, then none of

447
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 4: it matters because that eliminates everybody of everything. If not,

448
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 4: if like for example, if if he were to go

449
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 4: somewhere else, they would still owe about twenty eight million

450
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 4: in dead cap if he left after twenty four. Yeah,

451
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 4: but he's not going anywhere. He's playing for the Cleveland Browns.

452
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 4: He wants to stay here, of course, and the Browns

453
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 4: want him to stay here.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah. His he's he's had. If it it'd be it's

455
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: I guess, I you know, if you figured, like the

456
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: mortality of everybody comes. But he's probably right on the

457
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: edge of Brown Circle of fame at this point, yeah,

458
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: outside looking in on.

459
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.

460
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think certainly in the discussion, I think

461
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 4: that he's, you know what, six time Pro bowler, five

462
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 4: time All Pro, a couple time first team All Pro.

463
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: He probably is gonna be a Pro bowler again this year.

464
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Speaker 4: You know, he's been very very he's been He's great,

465
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 4: and he was you could always count on him. I

466
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 4: mean that was kind of, you know, like the hof

467
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 4: Joe Batonio was somebody you could always count on and

468
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 4: can to play at a very high level and to

469
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 4: be available for your team through injury, through a great

470
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 4: many things.

471
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Speaker 2: And he was he was very very good, very he

472
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Speaker 2: is very very good.

473
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Speaker 4: I would be obviously sad that kind of you know,

474
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 4: you think about our one playoff win.

475
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 2: He missed that with COVID. You know, that would be

476
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: very very that would be so sad to me for him.

477
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Speaker 4: Tremendous, tremendous, great player, great guy, always great interview, you

478
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 4: good with the media, always wins the Dino Lucarelli Good

479
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 4: Guy Award. That would be a big loss though, because

480
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 4: it's just it's not easy to replace that kind of

481
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 4: consistency and greatness. No, this and you drafted for it,

482
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 4: you prepared, but you know they have the indications and

483
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 4: from when Ziner was playing is that he was not

484
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Speaker 4: ready this year. Now you if if in the event

485
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Speaker 4: that Joel retired, you need him ready for next year,

486
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 4: and there's a lot of time to make improvements and

487
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 4: changes of the body. And remember he's coming off the

488
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 4: broken leg and all of those things. But around in

489
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 4: the Ohio State game, right, that's when he broke his leg.

490
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So it was a he didn't have like

491
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Speaker 2: a full year, no, not to get there because wasn't

492
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Speaker 2: the issue as anchor, Wasn't that kind of the problem.

493
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Speaker 4: Yes, that's been the problem in the so far in

494
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Speaker 4: the NFL. Yes, so you would imagine that he's going

495
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Speaker 4: to have a full off season at full health to

496
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Speaker 4: get stronger and work on all these things.

497
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I but you can.

498
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Speaker 2: I'm just pulled. I just pulled it up just to see,

499
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Speaker 2: because if this is it for him, I would love

500
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Speaker 2: for him to get a great sendoff from the folks.

501
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Speaker 2: And I'm certainly not here to tell you how to

502
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: spend your money. It's your money, and deal with it

503
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Speaker 2: however you want. But right now on the site I'm on,

504
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 2: you can get in for fourteen bucks if you want,

505
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: you know, So be nice to give him to send

506
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: him out at least with a big ovation at this

507
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Speaker 2: point in the year. Obviously for us it's you know,

508
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: you can't tell anybody in the room that they're gonna

509
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: go there and give everything they can to win. But

510
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Speaker 2: it's obviously not beneficial as a franchise to do so.

511
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Speaker 2: But it would be nice to get him a big

512
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: ovation coming out.

513
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and hopefully they'll announce, you know, hopefully we'll do

514
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 4: an offensive announcement.

515
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Speaker 2: And if it's I don't think he knows, though.

516
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Speaker 4: I didn't get a sense from his comments yesterday that

517
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Speaker 4: this is a foregone conclusion at all.

518
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Speaker 5: No.

519
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Speaker 2: No, I kind of read it similarly to Miles, like Obviously,

520
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Speaker 2: Miles is not venture, you know, considering retirement or anything,

521
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Speaker 2: except from the standpoint of like, I really want to

522
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Speaker 2: know what the plan is here yep. So that's something

523
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Speaker 4: Very happy now to be joined by Brown's defensive end,

539
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 4: Isaiah McGuire, Isaiah to Cincinnati, come back with a sack,

540
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 4: good news. That's on the schedule every single year. How

541
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Speaker 4: did it feel to go down there and get another

542
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 4: sack and get to Joe Burrow?

543
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Speaker 3: Oh man?

544
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Speaker 7: Fore really good, especially in the moment, especially with it

545
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Speaker 7: being you know, third in goal, I believe, and you

546
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Speaker 7: know it's just as a defense given our offense, another

547
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Speaker 7: chance to you know, do something.

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Speaker 3: For sure, this.

549
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Speaker 4: Year's got to have been for you personally so much

550
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Speaker 4: fun because it's, you know, one of the things you

551
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 4: come in as a rookie. You're the man in college

552
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 4: and then you come in as a rookie and it's like, well,

553
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Speaker 4: maybe you'll play, maybe you'll be active, who knows, and

554
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: then now, because of a variety of reasons, you'll injury

555
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 4: trades all that. It's been your opportunity, sir. How much

556
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 4: easier is it when you know, all right, I'm gonna play,

557
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: because I would imagine if let's say you get ten

558
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 4: snaps again, you're gonna try to do maybe too much,

559
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Speaker 4: just subconsciously.

560
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Speaker 2: But now when you know, all right, I'm in here

561
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Speaker 2: for the game, I can just play.

562
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Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely a little bit more easier on the mind

563
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Speaker 7: to where I can just you know, truly focus on

564
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 7: you know, the matchups and you know, different offensive formations

565
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Speaker 7: and things of that sort. That just kind of relaxes

566
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Speaker 7: me a little bit more to I can go play free.

567
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Speaker 4: What do you think is the biggest difference kind of

568
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 4: as you've evolved here into your second season and being

569
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Speaker 4: like a full time starter.

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Speaker 7: I think, truthfully, it's just the feel for the game. Honestly,

571
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Speaker 7: like I said, just the speed of game is continuously

572
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 7: slowing down bit by bit, starting to get more used

573
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Speaker 7: to just working different stuff more, like I said, just

574
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Speaker 7: love being out there with my teammates.

575
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Speaker 4: When you think about kind of the off season, I'm

576
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 4: sure like when you left there like okay, this is this.

577
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Speaker 2: Is what we would like you to work on our

578
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: ears to plan for you.

579
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Speaker 4: When you think about from that day, the work you

580
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Speaker 4: put in to get where you are now, was that

581
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Speaker 4: kind of on the right track, and then obviously a

582
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Speaker 4: new D line coach comes in and Jackxi's are it

583
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Speaker 4: seems like that has been working very long for you,

584
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Speaker 4: Just kind of that path of development and then getting

585
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Speaker 4: to actually do it mm hmm.

586
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Speaker 7: Definitely, you know, based off the feedback that I got,

587
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 7: you know, towards the end of my rookie year ex

588
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 7: and meanings per se, I was told that, you know,

589
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Speaker 7: you know, they believe in me and things of that

590
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Speaker 7: sort of. Just continue to work hard and you know,

591
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 7: continue to say on the path that I am, which

592
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 7: is like hard work, and you know, adding the right

593
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 7: things to my regimen and keeping the right people around me.

594
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Speaker 7: So to see that start to pay off is truly

595
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Speaker 7: a blessing.

596
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Speaker 4: How much different is it from college in terms of

597
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 4: film study, in terms of the specifics for your body

598
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 4: and recovery and all of those things you know in

599
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: sec obviously you guys are it's a very advanced college program,

600
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Speaker 4: but this is your job, This.

601
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Speaker 3: Is full time, this is what you do.

602
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Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, the main difference obviously is no academics, and

603
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 7: you know, with the season being longer, definitely the attention

604
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 7: to your body and you know, how your body recovers

605
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 7: and how you eat and all those different sorts of things.

606
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Speaker 7: Film study has always been film study, but obviously without

607
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 7: academics you have more time for film study. So adding

608
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 7: on those different types of things just to help me

609
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Speaker 7: become a better players valuable.

610
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: What's been like for you working now with a lot

611
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 4: of young guys getting an opportunity on that line. And

612
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 4: we'll talk about Miles in a second, but you know,

613
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Speaker 4: being next to my call or Juwan Briggs, you know,

614
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: those guys in their first seasons and both they're playing

615
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Speaker 4: with Mike Hall's playing. It's fun watching when you guys

616
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Speaker 4: are out there together. What's that been like kind of

617
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Speaker 4: having these younger guys and be like, I was a

618
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 4: rookie too, and yeah, just wait, just wait till you

619
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Speaker 4: get to where I am now and the other year

620
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Speaker 4: with all that knowledge.

621
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Speaker 7: Yeah, man, it's it's really cool to see them out there,

622
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 7: especially being productive, you know, since I didn't you know,

623
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Speaker 7: necessarily have the same you can say impact as they

624
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 7: have provided the defense as a rookie. So it's truly

625
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 7: amazing to see them do that. Also, it's fun to

626
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Speaker 7: be out there, you know, just with us being you know,

627
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 7: the younger people and you know us talking about you know,

628
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Speaker 7: what we learned from, you know, our events in the

629
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Speaker 7: room and just seeing it go out there and play out,

630
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Speaker 7: and it's awesome.

631
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got great beats in the room and a

632
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 4: lot of things you're out there. You and Mike could

633
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Speaker 4: be out there with you know, Miles and Downton and

634
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: you've got two very established guys very much so it's

635
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: talk about Miles gets to one hundred sacks. Yeah, first

636
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 4: person ever do it before their turn twenty nine. What's

637
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Speaker 4: it like being in the room with him and now

638
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 4: that you're out there with him a lot? What are

639
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: some of the things that maybe he's told you or

640
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 4: you've picked up from him.

641
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 7: Man, it's really awesome, you know, for him to you know,

642
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 7: have that staple in the NFL, continue to go on

643
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 7: that trajectory, you know, just be the same guy every

644
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 7: day and you know, always tries to help the younger

645
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 7: guys in the room, especially on the field, just encouraging

646
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 7: me and you know, just being in tune with the

647
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 7: game and kind of just seeing what he may do

648
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 7: when I'm not necessarily and when he's in and you know,

649
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 7: seeing how he may approach something that you know, will

650
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 7: help me approach it when I'm out there and I

651
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 7: see that same thing.

652
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 4: So for sure, I'd imagine he can help a long

653
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: on kind of the mental side. Well here's what I

654
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Speaker 4: see on tape or that. But sometimes it's got to

655
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 4: be hard because he's like, his body does things that

656
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 4: other people's bodies don't do. So, yeah, that's nice that

657
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 4: that works for you, But the rest of us mortals,

658
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 4: it's it's tough to emulate some of the things he

659
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 4: does out there.

660
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 7: Man, he likes said, he's you know, definitely God gifted,

661
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 7: as we all are, but you know, with him, it's just,

662
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 7: you know, it's truly remarked to see an athlete like him,

663
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 7: but also to put in the work that he has,

664
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 7: so it's truly remarkable to see that.

665
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: So Shelby Harris was on Hard Knocks last week and

666
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: he was in eline room and like, this is the

667
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 4: evaluation period, this is am I part of the solution?

668
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 4: Am I part of the problem? And that is probably

669
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 4: as real as you'll ever get in a setting.

670
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: Like that as a young guy.

671
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 4: For you, I'm sure you're perked up when you heard

672
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: that and you're like, he's telling the truth, and you

673
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 4: certainly make a great case say, I'm definitely part of

674
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 4: the solution. Was that something that really resonated when you

675
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 4: heard him say that kind of in that meeting?

676
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 7: Definitely, absolutely, you know, I definitely wanted to establish myself,

677
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 7: you know, especially once you know, Zadarius was traded, but

678
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 7: you know, hearing that was you know, it was just

679
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 7: it was reality for all of us. And I definitely,

680
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 7: you know, want to continue to prove that I am

681
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 7: a part of the solution and not a part of

682
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 7: the problem, and that I will be a great player

683
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 7: and continue to develop into that.

684
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: Why do you have such a knack and knocking the

685
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: ball out?

686
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's that's God, man, I don't know.

687
00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

688
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: It's not like you're watching punch out techniques or all.

689
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 4: That's just been it's worked out.

690
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: It's just worked out.

691
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: Well, keep doing what you're doing.

692
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: So say on that front, all right, final home game,

693
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: last chance in front of our home fans to get

694
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 4: a win. Obviously we know what the season has been

695
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 4: and it's not what everybody had hoped for. How important

696
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: is it to you on Sunday to go out there

697
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: and put on a good show for these fans?

698
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 7: Very important, you know, one, Like I said, they expect

699
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 7: they're harder money to come out and support us, and

700
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 7: it would be wrong for us to not go out

701
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 7: and do our part. And you know, the showing up

702
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 7: aspect so very important, not only for them, but for

703
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 7: us also to continue to build and continue to take

704
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 7: positives from the season.

705
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 4: Are you a big Christmas guy, big family Christmas?

706
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 6: Yeah?

707
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: I would say so.

708
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: I love Christmas.

709
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying it's over to be perfectly honest with did

710
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: you have a good Christmas? I know it's like it's different, right,

711
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: It's it's work, some work and some Christmas.

712
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: I did.

713
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 7: I did have a good Christmas. I would definitely say

714
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 7: this is one of my favorite Christmas.

715
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: Is what made it so good. I was able to

716
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: see some of my family, so that was beautiful.

717
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: Do you guys have any traditions, like any family traditions?

718
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 7: I want to say, any family tradition, it's just more

719
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 7: soldiers an environment filled with love and support and laughter

720
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 7: that'll hold valuable.

721
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 4: It's the best, right, These are the special times as

722
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 4: they indeed, Well, we are certainly thankful for you and

723
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 4: all that you've done for the Browns of season, and

724
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 4: I'm sure you're excited to keep it rolling here.

725
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: So on Sunday and let's go baby Blord to God.

726
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 5: Thank you?

727
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, there's Ze and Isaiah Maguire

728
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: joining z there. We should have coach here momentarily a

729
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: couple of things from an injury report to believe coach

730
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: might be at the Okay, let's go to coach.

731
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: Co's going on.

732
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 6: Okay, great challenge this week, unique challenge with with this group,

733
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 6: the things that they do on their offensive side of

734
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 6: the ball, with the pre snap motion and the speed. Defensively,

735
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 6: I think they do a great job in a variety

736
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 6: of ways. But they're big and long upfront with great length.

737
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 6: They've got great movement, bunch of different things they can

738
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 6: throw at you. It's a good special teams group. Coach

739
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 6: really well, so a group that certainly we respect, and

740
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 6: then we have to go play our best brand of

741
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 6: football to go find a way to win in front

742
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 6: of our fans. We're excited about the opportunity to go

743
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 6: play one last time down there on the lake in

744
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 6: front of our fans. But with that, I'll take any questions.

745
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 6: He Kimra was over over against the angles, Yes, but

746
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 6: Jamis is questionable.

747
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: If he okay, will he be the number two? Yes?

748
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 6: If he's okay, yeah, still working through that.

749
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: Who will be a kicker Sunday? Why I go with

750
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: him after giving him, you know, the week off when

751
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 3: you had the squad kicker a couple of weeks ago.

752
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think regardless if we have a practice squad

753
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 6: kicker on the roster or not really just uh, he's

754
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 6: our kicker. Like I've told you guys, he's gonna continue

755
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 6: to work through this like he does, like any player

756
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 6: works through technique things. He's working very hard and he

757
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 6: kicked it really well today. I expect him to kick

758
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 6: it really well on Sunday.

759
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: The three guys who are out, we have to use

760
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: IR to bring anybody up.

761
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 6: Use are any of those guys that bring anybody up.

762
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 8: Or I don't believe so kind With Dustin, it seemed

763
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 8: like the bye week, you know, with him sitting out

764
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 8: and thought that was pretty confident that he was going

765
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 8: to give back to form and didn't happen.

766
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 6: I think with any position, it doesn't matter if it's kicker,

767
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 6: if it's offensive line, linebacker, you're constantly working on your technique.

768
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 6: That's no different here with a veteran that's working on

769
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 6: his craft getting that swing grooved. Obviously, it didn't hit

770
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 6: the ball how he wanted to the other day, but

771
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 6: he continues to work at it and we'll, like I

772
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 6: told him, we'll can support him and we'll work through

773
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 6: it together.

774
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 4: I know he doesn't have a game status, but how

775
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: did Dorian come through with the cap.

776
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 6: And everything, and how has he looked like has looked

777
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 6: has looked good?

778
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 5: Kevin.

779
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 6: We we don't always see this kind of patience from kickers.

780
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 6: So where does your obviously in the greater Las year,

781
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 6: So that's probably part of it.

782
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 8: Where does where does that believe in Dustin come from?

783
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, demonstrated ability. He's a veteran. I've seen him do

784
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 6: it for us. I've seen him do it in his career.

785
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 6: Like a lot of kickers, sometimes you have a you

786
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 6: got to go through it a little bit, but doesn't

787
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 6: change how hard he's working to get through this. But yeah,

788
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 6: veteran guy who's who's seen a lot in his career.

789
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, what can you guys do this week to kind

790
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 9: of make Dorian's life a little easier so he can

791
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 9: get into the flow of the game a little faster

792
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 9: than he.

793
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: Did last year.

794
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 6: I think it's it's more incumbent on the team to

795
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 6: start fast. Obviously, that helps your quarterback when you can

796
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 6: put some points on the board, you know, early in

797
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 6: a game and not and not put yourself in a

798
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 6: hole early. I think that certainly contributes to how you

799
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 6: play as an offense.

800
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 9: I mean, he's really got the ability to pull it

801
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 9: and go on those RPOs. What did you think of

802
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 9: his decisions on that last week and what kind of

803
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 9: a you know, where does that give you guys going forward?

804
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's a real threat when you have

805
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 6: that quarterback back there. You know, Kevin Rodgers, our coach here,

806
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 6: he always says, when the quarterback hands it off, there's

807
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 6: Thatt's now eleven on ten. You know, if you don't

808
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 6: have a real viable guy, and with Dorian it's really

809
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 6: an eleven on eleven football. They have to account for

810
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 6: him really in all those run schemes. And that's like

811
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 6: a lot of quarterbacks in this league. I think you're

812
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 6: seeing guys that are very viable threats in the run

813
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 6: game and it certainly contributes to run game success.

814
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: Ken, I know you're on this year and Joel said

815
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: he's not thinking about next year, but regardless what happens, Like,

816
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: what has he just meant to this building to you these.

817
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: Last five years?

818
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, obviously I wasn't here for the beginning

819
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 6: part of his career, but just seeing him these last

820
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 6: five seasons. First of all, just talk about I'll talk

821
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 6: about the person first. Just an amazing person, a guy

822
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 6: I rely on a ton when talking about things that

823
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 6: have to do with this football team, and just the

824
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 6: way he leads. I'm always leaning on him. The player,

825
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 6: you know, looks like a Hall of Fame career to me.

826
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 6: You know, I don't think he's hoping he's not. This

827
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 6: is not his last few games. I think he's got

828
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 6: a lot left in the tank. Uh And I say

829
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 6: that just this is a really, really good football player,

830
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 6: and I've seen some really good ones that he's He's

831
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 6: right up there.

832
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 3: Is he likes Steve Hutchinson or when they different player.

833
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 6: You know, different players. Steve was much more of the

834
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 6: gap scheme downhill uh maller quote unquote. And I think

835
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 6: Joel's just so athletic the things that he's been able

836
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 6: to do over the course of his career. Never gets

837
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 6: in a bad spot. He's always moving his guy and

838
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 6: has recoverability to get to the second level. But he's

839
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 6: an incredible athlete.

840
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 4: Kevin two is one of the better quarterbacks that have

841
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: been one of the better quarterbacks.

842
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: In the league. Against pressure.

843
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: You know what what what do you see when you

844
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 4: watch him with him in terms of the that that

845
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 4: helps him, you know, kind of handle the pressure.

846
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 6: You know, I'd say the ball comes out so fast.

847
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 6: I think that's what helps the pressure. It's hard to uh,

848
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 6: you know, you can blitz him and sometimes you get there.

849
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 6: Sometimes that ball is you know, whistling out of there

850
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 6: because that's just how fast they play and and he

851
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 6: makes really really quick decisions and he has a very

852
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 6: very quick release.

853
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 9: How much pressure does that put on your secondary when

854
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 9: he's getting it out so fast and there isn't a

855
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 9: lot of time to.

856
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 6: Send that pressure. Yeah, I think they certainly this scheme

857
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 6: puts pressure on every part of your defense. It's not

858
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 6: just the secondary. I think everybody contributes to trying to

859
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 6: slow this group down. I think they do a great

860
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 6: job getting the ball in the perimeter in a variety

861
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 6: of ways, run game, screen, game, you name it. Then

862
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 6: they do a really good job work in the middle

863
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 6: field as well.

864
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 8: Where was said at in the protocol and does it

865
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 8: at this point since he's out this game makes sense

866
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 8: just to shut.

867
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 6: Him down for the rest of the I'm not going there.

868
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 6: I'm really just focused on where he is right now,

869
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 6: and he's continuing to progress. How do you coach up

870
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 6: Dorian to still be aggressive and use all of his skills,

871
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 6: but also try to stay interception for you this game? Sure,

872
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 6: I mean, I think it goes back to Mary Kay

873
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 6: being smart and aggressive. You don't want to just be

874
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 6: conservative for the sake of being conservative. But you have

875
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 6: to understand how important the ball is in these games,

876
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 6: how important possession is in these game. So still continue

877
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 6: to play his his style, make sure he's doing everything

878
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 6: in his power to move the football for our football

879
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 6: team and score points, but at the same time not

880
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 6: letting them get their hands on.

881
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 4: It without David said, who do you need to step

882
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: up for Dori?

883
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: You're in this game.

884
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 6: I think it's always a group effort in that regard,

885
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 6: Mary Kay, I think we really trust our group. We

886
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 6: trust the receivers, we trust the tight ends that we

887
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 6: have up. We got a good group of running backs up.

888
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 6: So the quarterback has to, you know, deliver the ball

889
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 6: based on what the coverage is dictating, and we trust

890
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 6: the guys that that the ball's going to Kevin.

891
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 5: I saw that Mike said that Anthony Walker's not going

892
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 5: to play Sunday for you to see that for you

893
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 5: just obviously no wing Anthony from this time of year.

894
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: Disappointing not to get the you know this he injured Okay,

895
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. I just said that he was Okay.

896
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 6: You know, a guy I think very highly of. I'm

897
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 6: regretting letting him sit in all those quarterback meetings over

898
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 6: the years. He's he's popped in there and sat in

899
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 6: there for many many meetings, and I'm regretting that fact.

900
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: But he's a he's one of.

901
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 6: My favorites, just a quintessential pro. He's he's the he's

902
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 6: the guy in the middle of the defense. He's the guy,

903
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 6: you know, in the middle of the locker room, just

904
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 6: at the center of everything. I think he's He's made

905
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 6: plays when he's out there on the football field, but

906
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 6: just the impact that he has in the building has

907
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 6: been pretty incredible.

908
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 9: When guys are like that Kevin, I mean, I don't

909
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 9: think I think he's the son of a coach.

910
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: Are they generally always that way or do you guys kind.

911
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: Of as they get into pro routine and do they

912
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: kind of grow into that.

913
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 6: I think the son of a coach certainly has a

914
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 6: lot to do with it, and and Anthony has talked

915
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 6: a lot about that. But he's he's a gym rat.

916
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 6: He just he loves the game. And again just his

917
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 6: thirst for knowledge. You can ask quarterbacks sat he would

918
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 6: pop in there and sit in there and just listen,

919
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 6: not not really ask questions, but just hear what was

920
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 6: being talked about. And he's a cerebral player. You know,

921
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 6: you so often here quarterbacks being talked about being cerebral.

922
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 6: When you're the middle linebacker and you're in the nerve center,

923
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 6: you have to be cerebral.

924
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: And he certainly is.

925
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 9: Good.

926
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,640
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00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: we had a chance to discuss Chief out Obo out.

948
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: Tilman out. That's one's a big red flag man. That's

949
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: a long time he's been out. Yeah for Cedric Tilman.

950
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 2: That'll be his what fifth straight game that he's missed. Cheez,

951
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 2: it's scary. That is very starting to ask questions about

952
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: when and if I mean, And the weird thing is

953
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 2: he I know, I've talked to him. He feels fine.

954
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 4: So there's something going on that is affecting his ability

955
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 4: to get out of the concussion protocol.

956
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: Wow, even though he himself feels fine, that's wild. And

957
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 2: this coming on the heels of Mary Kay, I want

958
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: to say, I want to give proper credit. I'm pretty

959
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: sure was her this morning with the story on j

960
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: Okay how he's trying to stay connected while also looking

961
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: for specialists.

962
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 4: Jason Tarber talked earlier today. Oh, Jason, that's right, coach

963
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 4: Stark coach earlier today. Yeah, I mean it's you think

964
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 4: about it just kind of young guys that you thought

965
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 4: were at least going to be a part of the core.

966
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 4: You know that you wanted to be able to see

967
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 4: over the end obviously j Okay. Then you talk about

968
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 4: you know, Dewan Jones you talk about and Alex Wright,

969
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 4: you talk about now Cedric Tillman. These are the guys

970
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: that you wanted to be able to get these opportunities

971
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 4: at this point in the season. Even my call back recently,

972
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 4: but he missed a great portion as well. That's unfortunately

973
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 4: where you're at. That's what's exciting, that's what is you're

974
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: trying to find out, you know, what's going on on. Yeah,

975
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 4: it's it's frustrating. And on the said Tilment front, I

976
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: mean this is it's stunning. That was on a Thursday

977
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 4: night game, yeah, against against the Steelers when this happened, right,

978
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 4: which I'm trying to do the exact I'm trying to

979
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 4: get the number of days.

980
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: November twenty first is when he went went out.

981
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: November twenty first, I mean, and it's almost the new year, correct, Yeah,

982
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: you wanted to see these guys. You also needed to

983
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean you needed to see you know, and said

984
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: was feeling like.

985
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like thirty five, thirty six days.

986
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: Well it's nine days in November, and what it'll be

987
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: twenty nine? And yeah over yeah wow, yeah, yeah, it

988
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: stinks that that part really stinks. Give me, what do

989
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: you think about a Sunday forecast and a quick keys

990
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: and then we do over unders at two fifteen?

991
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 3: What do you think of that? I love everything that

992
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: you're saying, Boo. That makes you a award winning broadcast.

993
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 3: Every once in a while.

994
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 2: Your Sunday forecast high of forty nine, eighty five percent

995
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 2: chance of rain. It will be wet, but it will

996
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: be very temperate, uh and quite quite warm for this

997
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: time of year. Z. What are your keys to the victory?

998
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: I can tell you I g man's got that wrong.

999
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: Like six, it's gonna be pushing sixty at one point

1000
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: an hour or two away from kickoff on Sunday.

1001
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: Well, what is the G man doing? I mean, can

1002
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: we get the kid a doppler?

1003
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: I mean he's working downstairs waiting on Miles.

1004
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: I can't even yell at him.

1005
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 3: Last week, the sun was almost down before Miles talked.

1006
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: Well, this says on a high of fifty five. Okay,

1007
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: that's really warm.

1008
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 3: I'll sign up for that.

1009
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: But it does dip.

1010
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: To be fair to the G Man, because he's giving

1011
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 4: you the game time temperature. It is into the high

1012
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 4: forties by kickoff, So.

1013
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 2: Our warm will be in the morning two o'clock.

1014
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it will be warmest at about noon or one

1015
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 4: great four hours.

1016
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: From kick Yeah.

1017
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: So that's all I get. Respect on the G man's name. Yeah,

1018
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: all right, zee, what are your keys? Look?

1019
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 4: You cannot win in the National Football League when you

1020
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 4: turn the football over the way we are. The Browns

1021
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 4: have turned the football over now eighteen times in the

1022
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 4: last five games. Eighteen times in the last five games,

1023
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 4: three at least in all five of them, and three

1024
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 4: at least in six of the last seven. You can't

1025
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: win that way. You cannot consistently win that way in

1026
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 4: the NFL. And no surprise, you may say, oh, that's

1027
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 4: a surprise, the Browns are won and six in those games.

1028
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 4: You've got to take care of the football first and foremost. Now,

1029
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 4: what's crazy is the Browns in the first you know,

1030
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: seven weeks of the season, never turned the football over

1031
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 4: three times in a game and in fact had one two.

1032
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 4: Four of the first seven games they had one giveaway

1033
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 4: or no giveaways.

1034
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this.

1035
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 4: Ah, It's ludicrous, is what it is. It's ludicrous to

1036
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 4: turn the football over as much there. So that's that's

1037
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 4: the first thing. The second thing is you have got

1038
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: to limit the explosives from a team that hasn't been

1039
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: as good at it this year, but as a team

1040
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 4: that is built on explosives. Devin a Chan and Raheem

1041
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 4: Moster can both take it to the house on the ground.

1042
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 4: Devin a Chan can take it to the house as

1043
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 4: a pass catcher. John new Smith can hit explosives as

1044
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: a tight end. And then of course there's Jalen Waddle

1045
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 4: and there's Tyreek Kill. And I realized Tyreek Hill has

1046
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: not been the player this year that he has been

1047
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: in years past. But if you blink and sleep on him,

1048
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 4: he's gonna run right by you, So we cannot. I

1049
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: think you've got to limit the explosives and try to

1050
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 4: make them matriculate the ball down the field. And then

1051
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 4: the other thing I think is gonna be it's imperative

1052
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 4: to get the ground game going, which takes some of

1053
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 4: the pressure off of DTR and then also allows for

1054
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 4: that play action game. Now it's gonna be very hard.

1055
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 4: This is a big, big five man front. There go

1056
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 4: three hundred three thirty five three oh seven on the

1057
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 4: three and then their outside ends Emmanuel Aagua sixty four

1058
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: to two seventy five, the Browns second round pick in

1059
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, and then Chop Robinson on the other side

1060
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 4: six three, two fifty five. So this is a big

1061
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 4: five man front that you're going to be trying to

1062
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 4: run into. A very big five man front.

1063
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,120
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1076
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Speaker 2: I always want a weather report from you first, and

1077
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 2: this might be one of the rare chances where we're

1078
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: in the vicinity of you very temperate here. What do

1079
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: you got in South Florida, my friend bar Burr, it's

1080
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: in the seventies. We're close, We're close. We're in like

1081
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: the mid fifties. We can hit sixty tomorrow, buddy, but

1082
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: yet so far.

1083
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 5: That's amazing. That is impressive. That is the upset of

1084
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 5: the week. It is.

1085
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't need to pack up PARKA for this one.

1086
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: Just a rain jacket.

1087
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Speaker 2: That's it. Take us through. We're taking a look at

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00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: this as we're now two weeks left and they're hanging

1089
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: on to slim ch answers. Obviously, Miami is Is this

1090
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: season from thirty thousand feet as simple as when Tua

1091
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: went down? It all went to heck and they couldn't

1092
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: quite ever dig out of it. Or is there more

1093
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: to it?

1094
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 5: Well, there's more to it, But of course that will

1095
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 5: be the argument that will be made by the folks

1096
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 5: whose you know, jobs are on the line. That's the

1097
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 5: end of the season, and it'll be hey, it's not

1098
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 5: our fault. Injuries happen, and concussions happened to a tongue

1099
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 5: of iloa. And when stuff like that happens, what team

1100
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 5: is going to recover from losing its starting quarterback? As

1101
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 5: Brown's fans are very familiar. But underneath that the here's

1102
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 5: the I guess, not the truth, although it is true,

1103
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 5: but here are more facts. When you have a quarterback

1104
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 5: who has a history of concussions, you need to have

1105
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 5: behind him a capable quarterback with some experience who you

1106
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 5: can hand the reins of the offense to and say, hey,

1107
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 5: I'm in small sample sizes save us. And the Dolphins

1108
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 5: clearly didn't have that this year. They trusted Skyler Thompson,

1109
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 5: who was a late round pick three years ago, who

1110
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 5: had started like three games in his career and was

1111
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 5: over and he was the backup, and he came out

1112
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 5: and he lost and lost and lost and then got injured.

1113
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 5: Let me put it to you this way, Skyler Thompson

1114
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 5: isn't even on the team anymore. He got waived, Okay,

1115
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 5: So somebody made a bad evaluation on what they had

1116
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 5: behind to Also, this is a team that had the

1117
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 5: very good record against teams that are not playoff worthy,

1118
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 5: not playoff caliber, and generally not over five hundred and

1119
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 5: against teams that are playoff worthy, are playoff caliber, and

1120
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 5: generally are winning teams, they have a terrible record. It's

1121
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 5: something like one and fourteen in the last two years,

1122
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 5: with or without to a tongue of Iloa. And that

1123
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 5: is the frustration of Miami fans, and that you know,

1124
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 5: they're buying and talking about making a playoff push and

1125
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 5: sneaking into the playoffs and doing stuff, and everybody says, yeah,

1126
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 5: but every time you play a team that's gonna be

1127
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 5: in the playoffs, you get you know, stomped, and so

1128
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 5: what good is that? And so yeah, the first part

1129
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 5: is true. They're in tough strang When two was not present,

1130
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 5: but there are underlying and mitigating reasons that there's concern.

1131
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, they do have a winning record too.

1132
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 4: But to your point, the wins against Jacksonville, the Patriots, twice, Vegas,

1133
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 4: the Jets, and then the surprising wins would be at

1134
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 4: the La Rams in Week ten and then they beat

1135
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 4: the Niners last week.

1136
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 2: Not that that surprising.

1137
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 4: The Niner season has gone, not gone the way they

1138
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 4: wanted it to. The one thing though, that jumps out

1139
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 4: to me about this year's team is just the lack

1140
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 4: of explosiveness in the offense, especially from you know, Tyreek

1141
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 4: Kill and Jalen Waddle, who are both having down seasons.

1142
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 4: Tyrak Kill basically half off of his pace of seventeen

1143
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 4: hundred yards the last two seasons. What's happened to that

1144
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 4: vertical passing game? And it started with a bang? I

1145
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 4: remember Tyreek caught a long touchdown in Week one against Jacksonville,

1146
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 4: but since then, it he's almost been kind of invisible

1147
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 4: at times.

1148
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I hear myself talk and I

1149
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 5: sound like a head coach and that I'm gonna tell you,

1150
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 5: it's a number of things. It's a lot of things.

1151
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 5: It's never one thing with Tyreek. Look, he's been hurt.

1152
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 5: He has a rich injury that supposedly is going to

1153
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 5: require some surgery in the offseason, but he decided he

1154
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 5: wanted to play and so he's playing with it. Secondly,

1155
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 5: defensive coordinators, they're not stupid. They get paid, and so

1156
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 5: they've decided, Yeah, you have a very explosive offense, as

1157
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 5: the folks in Cleveland are saying, but we've decided not

1158
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 5: to get blown up. And so we're going to play,

1159
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 5: you know, too deep. We're gonna shell coverage, we're gonna

1160
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 5: umbrella you. We're gonna do things that don't make us

1161
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 5: turn the tape on on Monday and see seventy yard connections.

1162
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 5: And we're going to turn the tape on on Monday

1163
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 5: and not see you scoring seventy points like you did

1164
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 5: last year against Stenver. We're not doing that. And uh

1165
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 5: so the Dolphins have had to decide, well, we got

1166
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 5: to be able to run the ball, which they really

1167
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 5: aren't doing so great. And we have to be patients,

1168
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 5: which is up to the quarterback who sometimes gets impatient.

1169
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: Turning the great Armanda so Garo covering the NFL at

1170
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: OutKick and a great friend of the program. I'm want

1171
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: to do a big picture NFL one with you because

1172
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: obviously you're covering the league at large two weeks this week, well,

1173
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 2: this week's half done, and then this week and then.

1174
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 3: One to go.

1175
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: Who are teams that you really like the look of

1176
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: them as we're heading into the postseason.

1177
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 5: Let me see, there's a team that's fifteen and one,

1178
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 5: but they got by all year. They that is true.

1179
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 5: They the last two Super Bowls and they've given no

1180
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 5: indication that they're not gonna win this one. So I

1181
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 5: like them.

1182
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: I go something with them though, like they're gonna have

1183
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: twenty four days between games. They haven't really blown anybody

1184
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: out until recently. Now they kind of have. It's it's

1185
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: been just an odd year. It's like the one of

1186
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: the most most strange fifteen to one teams that you

1187
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: ever see.

1188
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 5: Absolutely, they I think at some point or at one point,

1189
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 5: they won fifteen consecutive one possession or one score games.

1190
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 5: Guess what they know how to win?

1191
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and.

1192
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 5: Stuff happens for them, and the haters will say, yeah,

1193
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 5: well the referees happened for them, Well yeah, but also

1194
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 5: field goal kicks for for a win, get blocked, or

1195
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 5: they doink off the top the left, you know, upright,

1196
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 5: or something happens that improbably interception at the goal line,

1197
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 5: or maybe Andy Reid is a really good coach and

1198
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes knows how to win at the end of games,

1199
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 5: and Travis Kelsey finds the open area and that defense

1200
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 5: with Steve Spagnolo, you know, designing it is really really good.

1201
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 5: And all those things together, plus the fact that, oh,

1202
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 5: by the way, they're developing now Zadi are Worthy, who

1203
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 5: is a rookie, All of a sudden, he looks like

1204
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 5: the real deal and he's fast becoming one of Mahomes's

1205
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 5: favorite receivers, kind of like where she Rice, who was

1206
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 5: a rookie did last year. It tells you that it's

1207
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 5: not luck. It tells you that Andy Reid gets his

1208
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 5: team to play better at the end of the year

1209
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 5: than they were at the beginning of the year.

1210
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have been impressive. We saw them in a

1211
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 4: game where they turned us over six times a couple

1212
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 4: weeks ago. What do you think on the NFC side,

1213
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 4: AFC side, It feels to me like it's it's gonna

1214
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 4: be one of three teams chiefs, which you use to

1215
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 4: your point, never bet against Bill's Ravens. NFC feels a

1216
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 4: little bit more wide open. What do you what do

1217
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 4: you make of that side of the conference?

1218
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 9: That?

1219
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean everybody everybody was loving on the Lions,

1220
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 5: of course, and then their entire defense got got hurt.

1221
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 5: I obviously exaggerate, but you know, they do have like

1222
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 5: five guys starters, all of them who have been hurt

1223
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 5: at different points of the season, and a couple of

1224
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:46,439
Speaker 5: them the entire season practically, so that the Bills game

1225
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 5: against them in which Josh Allen lit them up, that

1226
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 5: was kind of an eye opener. And yes, they are

1227
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 5: dominating teams like you know, the Bears and other but

1228
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 5: the Bears and others aren't going to be in the postseason,

1229
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 5: and so teams like the Bills are going to be

1230
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 5: in the postseason, So you know, there's questions about them.

1231
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 5: The most improbable story, in my opinion, is the Minnesota Vikings.

1232
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 5: Who would have thought Sam Darnold, who was a bust

1233
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 5: with the Jets, got beat out for the starting job

1234
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 5: in Carolina, disappeared in San Francisco, would go to Minnesota

1235
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 5: as a backup, and he's got them. What is it?

1236
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 5: They're thirteen and one of yeah, thirteen and two. I mean,

1237
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 5: who had that on their bingo card? It's amazing. Kevin

1238
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 5: O'Connell is a quarterback whisperer. He knows how to get

1239
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 5: the maximum out of those guys and it surely helps that.

1240
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 5: You know, they've got maybe the two best combo receivers

1241
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 5: on the block in you know, Jordan Addison and the

1242
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 5: other guy.

1243
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 2: The other guy's pretty good.

1244
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like the best.

1245
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 2: Armando.

1246
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 4: There was a story I read or saw at least

1247
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 4: kind of across the TV the last week about Kalis

1248
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 4: Campbell that if in the event that the Dolphins get

1249
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 4: eliminated from the playoffs, which could happen before they even

1250
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 4: take the field against the Browns, if the Chargers and

1251
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 4: Broncos went on Saturday, that they would release him and

1252
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 4: allow him to go pursue a title.

1253
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: What can you tell us about that? And just his greatness?

1254
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 4: I mean, how is he still doing what he is

1255
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 4: doing in his seventeenth NFL season.

1256
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 5: It's been discussed internally, and Elias Campbell would appreciate it

1257
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 5: if it were to happen. Obviously, he has very close

1258
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 5: ties to the Ravens. He has They're close ties to

1259
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 5: Atlanta if they make it, But I'm not so sure

1260
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 5: that the NFL loves that whole deal. Yeah, that is

1261
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 5: a little icky because suddenly one team that is out

1262
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 5: is opening up free agency again in January, and that's

1263
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 5: a bad precedent as far as the NFL is concerned.

1264
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 5: So it's weird, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's

1265
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 5: been conversations from the league to the Miami front office

1266
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 5: about that possibility.

1267
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: Great stuff, As always, my friend, thank you so much

1268
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: for your time. We greatly appreciate you.

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01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 5: Always a pleasure. God bless all.

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Speaker 2: Right there he is the great Armando cel Garow, Senior

1271
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01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,720
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Speaker 2: Time for a little segment we like to call over

1282
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: or under, and we have, in the words of the

1283
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 2: great Bill Pedo, a developing situation. I don't like sound

1284
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: of the head at all.

1285
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: Give it music to my ears.

1286
01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: With a robust two and three, improves himself to forty

1287
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 2: and thirty six, four games over.

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01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 3: Doctor Z.

1289
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: One in four perfect, thirty eight up, thirty eight down.

1290
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: It all came down to Jamar Chase fantasy points. Jamar

1291
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: Chase fantasy points. You want to know the crazy thing.

1292
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 2: I set the over under completion percentage at Dorian Thompson

1293
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: Robinson at fifty eight point five.

1294
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 3: Yep.

1295
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 2: He was fifty eight point eight.

1296
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 3: Yep.

1297
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 2: That's pretty good by you.

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01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 4: By the way, did would Jamar Chase have won if

1299
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 4: it weren't for that long touchdown at the end.

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01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: I didn't look no yet, then you only have like

1301
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: he ended up ninety seven in a touch yeah, and

1302
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: he got so he would have been at sixty without

1303
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: a touchdown, sixty without a touch The fact that we're

1304
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: even that it would have been close, Let me pull

1305
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 2: it up. What would we have been with our receivers

1306
01:05:55,720 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: without it? Because you don't give chief, no chief. I

1307
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 2: don't even know if they would have made it. Probably

1308
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: Judy had twenty Elijah, yeah maybe not all right, I

1309
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: got it pulled up. So Elijah had twenty one, Judy

1310
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: had twenty.

1311
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 3: That's it.

1312
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 2: To four point one. So even without the long one,

1313
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 2: it wouldn't have mad it didn't matter. Yeah, that did it,

1314
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: all right. So obviously the over unders are challenging. This

1315
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: a challenging endeavor this time of year because you don't

1316
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: know what you're getting, you know who's showing up. So

1317
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: that's that's kind of where we are. Fine, you have

1318
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,959
Speaker 2: a two game lead with what amounts to ten games

1319
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: to play, Gibbe, two game lead with ten to play, but.

1320
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 3: You lead it off.

1321
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 2: That's one of the privilege of expectations of my friend.

1322
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: You lead it off to a tongue of iloa completions. Completions.

1323
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 2: Gibbe twenty two and a half. So the number I

1324
01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 2: came up where it was twenty two, So I there's

1325
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 2: not great. I'm gonna go under just barely or give

1326
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 2: over strategy over that's well, I mean, let's it was

1327
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 2: twenty two last week and he had the only time

1328
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: he's been under this was like in early November.

1329
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 3: He had twenty Well that would have been helpful.

1330
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 2: Well, all like information.

1331
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 4: His last few games have been twenty eight, twenty nine,

1332
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 4: thirty seven, thirty three, twenty nine.

1333
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 3: Next, yeah, I'm still going under over there one all right?

1334
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 2: A Chan that Sunday e chan fantasy points over under

1335
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: all of our backs combined a chan or everybody who's

1336
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 2: a running back doctor is a PPR or not? No

1337
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 2: traditional traditional.

1338
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 3: Yep, let's go fantasy boy, what do you got?

1339
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: I mean it's really him against Ford, So I'll take

1340
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 2: eight chan.

1341
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 3: All right over? Same?

1342
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 2: All right?

1343
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 3: Next under I no, like that'sh playing really good football.

1344
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett Sacks, Gibbe, Miles Garrett Sacks. He's trying to

1345
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 2: get to fourteen. The number is one and a half.

1346
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 3: Over, let's go two.

1347
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 4: Gets it out so quickly. He's gonna get one in

1348
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 4: this game. He's gonna get one the last one under.

1349
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this week could be it. This could

1350
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: be a absolute bell cow week.

1351
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 3: Next over under.

1352
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: Doctor z sacks and turnovers. You both got this, by

1353
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 2: the way. Last week the number is three.

1354
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 3: And a half.

1355
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 2: Under Gibbe over, Oh my god, this is our pet's

1356
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 2: heads are falling off edition. Next over under here we go,

1357
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 2: big Daddy the actual thirty nine and a half gibbe

1358
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 2: under all right, doctor ze you do pooky same Yeah,

1359
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: it's got to all right, three differences. This could be

1360
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: the week that defines the competition.

1361
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 3: This could be it.

1362
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 2: All right, we'll do a little saying. We'd like to

1363
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: call pay attention to the scores. It's coming up next

1364
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,519
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Speaker 2: of your Cleveland Brown's. Time for a little segment we

1372
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: like to call do pay attention to the scores?

1373
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, pay attention to the scores coming into this week.

1374
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 4: Coming in this week combined fifty four games over five

1375
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 4: hundred as we really have rallied middling week last week

1376
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 4: nine and seven, eight and eight, but off to a

1377
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 4: good start, two up, one down?

1378
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 2: So are this weekend a lot Seahawks? Just crubs, just

1379
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 2: total cruds, total cruds. Awful, awful, awful.

1380
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: Shall we dance?

1381
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 2: Let's waiting for you. We're waiting for you to join

1382
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 2: the dance for what is that from? What is the movie?

1383
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 2: That's from? Let's Dance? Blank Weed? I don't know, but

1384
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: I like it?

1385
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 3: Why am I blinking at home?

1386
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: So I can you get google?

1387
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 9: That?

1388
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 2: In the Anchorman? Anchorman? Ah, Anchorman, that's right?

1389
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 4: Who says it? Who says it? Ron, Papa Burgundy? I

1390
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 4: can see Vince Vaughn sending it to him, saying it

1391
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 4: to him, the news man. Actually, it might be wes

1392
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 4: Man tooth.

1393
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: It could be wes Man's tooth. Yeah, I don't remember.

1394
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 2: Let's see, I have not seen them. No, it's it's Burger.

1395
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: It's in a while, Papa Burger. Yeah. Is he saying

1396
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: it to west Man tooth? He's saying it two man tooth?

1397
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah? Good? All right away we go Saturday triple

1398
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 3: header games on NFL Network. Shout out to our own

1399
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 3: Chris Rose, who will be on a call. I believe

1400
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 3: he has chargers at Patriots Los Angeles. It is a

1401
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 3: win and you are in Chargers in New England. Zigura

1402
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 3: kick us off Chargers by a billion.

1403
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 5: We just.

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01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 2: Drake May is really good. I think Drake, if I

1405
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 2: saw McShay was redrafting the quarterbacks after what he saw

1406
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 2: in year one, you'd go, Daniels May, then Williams, so

1407
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 2: do with that which you will. I think Kayla was

1408
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: putting such an awful position, but that's a whole nother segment.

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01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 3: I do.

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01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,719
Speaker 2: I'm with you, And we mentioned vond Comfortable. Comfortable. Comfortable

1411
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 2: comes from the movie that he did called Made, which

1412
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: was kind of the sister brother movie to Swingers that

1413
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: him and Favrou did that not as many people have seen,

1414
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 2: but which is equally hilarious. So I like the Chargers comfortable, comfortable, comfortable,

1415
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 2: easy in this one.

1416
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 4: Patriots had it going last week. They were up like

1417
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 4: fourteen nothing on Buffalo and then it just like all

1418
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 4: fell apart. I think that was like they got up

1419
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 4: big for that game. I don't think they're gonna get

1420
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 4: up very big for this game.

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01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 9: No.

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01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 3: Next, the middle game of the day and the best

1423
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 3: game of the day, the Bengals playing host to the

1424
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 3: Denver Broncos. Broncos win and you are in the last

1425
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 3: time they were in the playoffs twenty fifteen Cincinnati Ozero

1426
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 3: and seven versus teams with winning records.

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01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 2: Bo Bishop, well, I'll make it one and seven. They're

1428
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 2: not gonna lose this not losing this one at home.

1429
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: The crazy thing about them is this is going to

1430
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: be a revenge serve best Gold because Denver's gonna play.

1431
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 2: I imagine they're going to play next to nobody playing

1432
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: in Kansas City next week. So I like Cincinnati. I

1433
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 2: think they win. I think it's a really competitive game.

1434
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: I like Denver lot, but I like Cincinnati winning maybe

1435
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 2: thirty one, twenty four or five six, something like that.

1436
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 4: The last time the Denver Broncos clinched the playoffs spot

1437
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,799
Speaker 4: the year, as Gibbe had said, was twenty fifteen.

1438
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 2: They clinched their playoff spot on December the twenty eighth.

1439
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:28,759
Speaker 3: Oh baby.

1440
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 4: They were coming off of a thirty four to twenty

1441
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 4: seven loss the week before. Their opponent on December the

1442
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 4: twenty eighth was the Cincinnati Bengals. It was the second

1443
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 4: to last week of the season. This Saturday, the Broncos

1444
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 4: ye play the Bengals on December the twenty eighth, coming

1445
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 4: off of a thirty four to twenty seven loss in

1446
01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 4: the second to last week of the season. Thus it

1447
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 4: is destiny the Broncos win this one outright, twenty seven

1448
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 4: to twenty six.

1449
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: Did the Cincinnati Bengals have Burrow and Chase?

1450
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 3: Then they did not.

1451
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 2: Did the Broncos have Peyton Manning?

1452
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 3: Yeah? They did?

1453
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:22,839
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter, just like just like earlier this year in Chicago,

1454
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 4: the Seattle Mariners beat the Chicago White Sox six to three.

1455
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 4: So did the Seattle Seahawks beat the Chicago Bears six

1456
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 4: to three? Signs it's kismet the signs and this game.

1457
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 3: Will probably determine what time we play the following week.

1458
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's right.

1459
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 4: Okay, so you say these things in facty, what does

1460
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 4: that mean? Were either gonna play Sunday at one or

1461
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 4: Sunday at four?

1462
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: Okay? So you could play Tuesday? Maybe Tuesday. What does

1463
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 2: a Cincinnati win mean to you?

1464
01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:01,799
Speaker 3: I think a Cincinnati win, if this is me just guessing,

1465
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,440
Speaker 3: I think that puts US at four o'clock, because that's Cincinnati, Pittsburgh,

1466
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 3: and then US in Baltimore. Baltimore and Pittsburgh have to

1467
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 3: play at the same time, because that we're talking Division

1468
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 3: crown and who gets a home game and who has

1469
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 3: to go on the road, and a lot, a lot

1470
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 3: could be decided, like there might not be a whole

1471
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 3: lot to talk about in week eighteen?

1472
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:26,839
Speaker 2: Are there games on Saturday?

1473
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 5: Next?

1474
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 2: Are there games on Saturday?

1475
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 3: There's only there's one game Saturday at like four point

1476
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 3: thirty and one at like eight o'clock, And that can't

1477
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 3: be us. I would think you would put the two

1478
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 3: and two together that way. You're not that way. The

1479
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 3: game is still mean something.

1480
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so strange because like even if you go

1481
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 2: on like NFL or like they don't even give Saturday

1482
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: as an option. They just show it up Sunday only there. Yeah,

1483
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 2: oh no, no, they do give it. Yeah they do.

1484
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 3: They go one four or one five. Yeah, so yeah

1485
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 3: they do Saturday. There's a Sunday slate and I believe

1486
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 3: there's a Monday night niche So buckle up on that

1487
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 3: one up next to round out the Saturday triple header.

1488
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 3: Arizona recently eliminated the RAMS a lot to play for

1489
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 3: Los Angeles hosting the Arizona Cardinals. Rams still with work

1490
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 3: to do, Nathan.

1491
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rams are gonna win this game, but it's not

1492
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 4: gonna be a blowout. This isn't a classic ramt in

1493
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 4: the dome, Kyler running around McBride Harrison. There's enough there

1494
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 4: for Kyler to show up at the back door with

1495
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 4: a little gift at the end of the year for

1496
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 4: those on the cardinal side of things.

1497
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 2: Rams win it thirty to twenty four. I see it

1498
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 2: the same way.

1499
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 5: It just.

1500
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,719
Speaker 2: It just strikes me as a game where the Rams

1501
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 2: are just pros. I don't think they're gonna be worried

1502
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 2: about sending messages. I think just get the win, be

1503
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:56,839
Speaker 2: safe and comfortable win and that's it. But not comfortable

1504
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 2: enough for the scores.

1505
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 3: Sunday one o'clock another team that can lock up things

1506
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 3: and take care of business and probably rest guys. In

1507
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 3: Week eighteen, the Buffalo Bills can lock up the number

1508
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 3: two seed that would give them two home games, a

1509
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,879
Speaker 3: wild card and a divisional before having to go to Arrowhead.

1510
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 3: Bills can lock up the number two seed. They are

1511
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 3: seven and zero at home and they host the hapless

1512
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 3: Jets bo Bishop.

1513
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like when when you get a

1514
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 2: chance at this Jets operation, and remember they beat the

1515
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 2: Bills earlier in this season. I'm sorry, the Bills won

1516
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 2: twenty three to twenty earlier in this season. A tight

1517
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,560
Speaker 2: game in that one. This one is in New York. Correct, No,

1518
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: it's in Buffle's in Buffalo. Oh it's at Bill Okay, yeah,

1519
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:50,879
Speaker 2: at Bills. Okay, Bills by Bills by a billion. Zigura,

1520
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: you have Bills by a billion.

1521
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think they could. They can't get the

1522
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 4: number one seed. Now, they're just gonna win and then

1523
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:01,879
Speaker 4: be like, Okay.

1524
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 2: We're good.

1525
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 4: They can rest everybody. In Week eighteen, you can still

1526
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 4: be they're gonna win the game. But they could be

1527
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 4: up fourteen in the fourth quarter. In this case, they

1528
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 4: could even be up fifteen in the fourth quarter, and

1529
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 4: oh yeah, heck, they could be up sixteen in the

1530
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 4: fourth quarter and say, well fine whatever, and Rogers is

1531
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 4: gonna go ping ping paow touchdown.

1532
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 2: That's how I see it. Bill's thirty Jets twenty two

1533
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: up next.

1534
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 3: The one of two candidates for the Inmate Game of

1535
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 3: the Week, probably the front runner, Jacksonville three and twelve

1536
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 3: hosting three and twelve Tennessee the game neither team wants

1537
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 3: to win.

1538
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 2: Nathan, you can get it this for like eight bucks.

1539
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 3: Yep.

1540
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 2: Well, listen, we need if we want the jag.

1541
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 4: If the Jags win this game, I think we go

1542
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,480
Speaker 4: up to the number three spot if we are unsuccessful

1543
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 4: against my So I'm rooting for the Jags.

1544
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 2: That's Jacks. Yeah, I'm with you. I like I like

1545
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 2: Jacksonville too in this one. They've at least been competitive

1546
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 2: the last few weeks. Last time out they won in

1547
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 2: Tennessee ten to six. I went with them, then I'll

1548
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 2: go with them again. Give me Jacksonville to win.

1549
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 4: I'm surprised that they're not favored at home when they've

1550
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 4: beaten Tennessee in Tennessee with basically the same teams.

1551
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, next to the team that does not control any

1552
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 3: part of their destiny, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. After that

1553
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 3: loss to Dallas last Sunday Night eight and seven on

1554
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 3: the year, they just got to win out and hope

1555
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 3: some other things happen as well. Tampa Bay hosting that

1556
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 3: frisky Carolina Panther team. Panthers tick down Arizona and knock

1557
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 3: them out last week? Can they do the same on Sunday,

1558
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 3: bo Bishop, It's a lot, it's a lot of points.

1559
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 2: It is a lot like I like Tampa Bay winning

1560
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 2: last time out. This is a three point game. I

1561
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: think it's close again, So I like, I like Tampa

1562
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 2: Bay winning, but I but I do like I like

1563
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 2: Carolina to hang in there a little bit. Give me,

1564
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 2: give me Tampa Bay thirty one twenty seven.

1565
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 4: Last time they beat him by thirty and if Tuba

1566
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 4: Hubbard doesn't fumble, they lose out yet right, this line

1567
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 4: makes no sense to me, none whatsoever? I thought I

1568
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 4: think when I picked this, I thought it was like

1569
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 4: gonna be four.

1570
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1571
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 4: The absurd nature of this line feels as absurd as

1572
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 4: Atlanta laying all those points with Pennix in his first start,

1573
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 4: Like what, how can we say they're gonna win by eight?

1574
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 4: And they just it was a beating. It feels like

1575
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 4: they know something that we don't know because the prudent

1576
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 4: play here is a hundred percent Carolina, Like, why can't

1577
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 4: they win this game outright?

1578
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1579
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 4: And you're getting eight? So it makes no sense to me.

1580
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 4: So I'm taking the Bucks to win one hundred to zero.

1581
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 3: Bobshit, I already did.

1582
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, took Carolina.

1583
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 3: Sorry, you're good, you're good. Next the runner up to

1584
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 3: the inmate game of the week, Las Vegas god three

1585
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 3: and twelve on the year, trying to do their best

1586
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 3: to screw up their draft chances. Raiders on the road

1587
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 3: in New Orleans to battle the five and ten Saints.

1588
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 3: Who do I who went first? So you went first

1589
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 3: last time? Zero?

1590
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

1591
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 4: The New Orleans Saints right now are operating without an

1592
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 4: ability to throw the forward pass.

1593
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 2: But can the Raiders afford to win another game?

1594
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 5: Now?

1595
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: They shouldn't have won.

1596
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 4: Last time, but they did so maybe they don't care.

1597
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 4: Maybe they don't care, so I can't. There's no way

1598
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 4: this would be one hundred total stay away because we

1599
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 4: must Raiders two Saints nothing.

1600
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's this gross. This is really gross.

1601
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 2: Game New Orleans at home, last home game. I'll just

1602
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I would never do this. I'll take

1603
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: I'll take New Orleans three Vegas two man.

1604
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 3: But it's gross. Fair enough. This one was a four

1605
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 3: o'clock game opposite us. And when they moved this week,

1606
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 3: Packers Vikings moves to four o'clock and Cowboys Eagles moved

1607
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 3: to one. Kenny Pickett will be your starter in Philly,

1608
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 3: which makes this number even crazier. No CD Lamb for Dallas.

1609
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 3: Philly can clush the division with a win or a

1610
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,799
Speaker 3: Washington loss. Little note, it would be the twentieth straight

1611
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 3: year no repeat division winner in the nfcist Bo Bishop.

1612
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a big one, especially with Pickett. It

1613
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 2: hasn't moved announced all of these things. I see Eric

1614
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: Dickerson as cheering against Saquon Barkley to break his record, which, yeah,

1615
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 2: why wouldn't he, Like, by the way, Saquon's getting an

1616
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 2: extra game to break it, So I don't blame him

1617
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 2: at all, but that that number is really big and

1618
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna I'm gonna apply the same logic I like.

1619
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 2: I like Philly winning this one with Kenny Pickett twenty

1620
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 2: one to ten. No CD LAMB. I think that's the

1621
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 2: that's the difference for me if they had ced Lamb.

1622
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 3: There boy, you had CD LAMB and you're in a

1623
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 3: championship this week.

1624
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 2: Me, we may have to rethink fantasy football truly completely

1625
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 2: fell apart. We may have to rethink it. We may

1626
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 2: have to really have it end like Week sixteen. The

1627
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 2: championship may have to be Week sixteen, which it was.

1628
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: I'd be the champion.

1629
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I wasn't gonna play them anyway because

1630
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 4: we knew the shoulder. But we have Cede Lamb, Nico Collins,

1631
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and Jigba and Brian Thomas and so far

1632
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 4: Nico Collins and Jack Smith and Jigger are on a

1633
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 4: milk carton. My team is in the dumps. It's very sad.

1634
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 4: I was gonna get five one for the thumb. What

1635
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 4: a dynasty the day it is a you gotta gotta

1636
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 4: tip your hat.

1637
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean's and his team.

1638
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 4: Name is lap Potensia, which is the potential At this point,

1639
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:11,919
Speaker 4: I think it's it's realized.

1640
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 3: It's real.

1641
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 2: It's quite realized.

1642
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, rounding out the one o'clock Sunday games. When did

1643
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 3: you go it? Oh?

1644
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 2: You went Philly?

1645
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 3: Right?

1646
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 2: I same same as you.

1647
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 3: Okay, the Colts might not have anything to play for

1648
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 3: by Sunday. Uh with La and Denver. If both of

1649
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 3: those win on Saturday, the Colts are done. Season's over,

1650
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 3: which would make this then runner up for the Inmate

1651
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 3: Game of the Week. It's the fighting Yellowstones visiting the

1652
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 3: g Men. Yellowstone, I think he was in New York

1653
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 3: last week? Weren't they didn't they take him the last week?

1654
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1655
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 3: I think it's back to back weeks. Indies had to

1656
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 3: go to New York.

1657
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 2: They should have just stayed there. Zigura, Yeah, I mean no,

1658
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 2: they were Titans last week, the week before then, Jets

1659
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 2: probably three or four weeks ago. Colts by a trillion. Yeah, dude,

1660
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 2: the Giants are not screwing this up. They're gonna pick

1661
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 2: number one and they won't be anywhere near this. They

1662
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 2: will not be anywhere near this. I mean, they played

1663
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 2: one close game and it was the Saints, so they

1664
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 2: lost fourteen to eleven. Everything else has been a beat

1665
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: down forever. It continues. Colts by a zillion.

1666
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 3: So the four o'clock game opposite US Packers on the

1667
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 3: road in Minnesota, Packers one in three in NFC North

1668
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 3: games this year. That's an interesting little tidbit. Bo Bishop,

1669
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 3: I think it goes to two and three. I like

1670
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 3: it feels like green Bay's got all the momentum in

1671
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 3: the world right now.

1672
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 2: I know that it feels like Minnesota, like you think

1673
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 2: about the Seattle game, like they're finding ways to get

1674
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,560
Speaker 2: it done. But I think green Bay might just be

1675
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 2: on a little bit of a different level.

1676
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 9: I like the.

1677
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 2: Packers winning a classic thirty four to thirty two. Go

1678
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 2: pack Oh, I'm with you, that Packers team. I've liked

1679
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 2: them for a long time.

1680
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 3: Sunday Night foosball actually might be worth waiting up for. Yeah,

1681
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 3: Junior start number two taking on Jaydeen Daniels and the Commies.

1682
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 3: Commi's hosting the Falcons. Washington can clinch a playoff appearance

1683
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 3: first time since twenty twenty with a win or a

1684
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay loss.

1685
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 2: Zegura, This is a real tough one for me.

1686
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 3: Let's go. Navy just took the lead on Oklahoma.

1687
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go Bavy.

1688
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 3: A Anker's away, baby.

1689
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 4: I'm very I like the Commanders here, but I think that,

1690
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 4: oh man, this is a big spot. It's one thing

1691
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 4: to play at home against the non football team, it's

1692
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 4: another thing to go on the road. I think Washington's

1693
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 4: gonna end up handling this one comfortable, comfortable, comfortable.

1694
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 2: Like twenty seven to twenty. I'm gonna go just a

1695
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: little opposite. I like Washington as well. I got it

1696
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty four, though, winning that one, we'll

1697
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: do ours and also so much more to come. You're

1698
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,839
Speaker 2: listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1699
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,960
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1702
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01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,599
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1704
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1705
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1706
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1707
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1708
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Speaker 2: Radio Network.

1709
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 4: How do you see it? Doc to Z, listen, this

1710
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 4: is going to be a tall task. Good defense, top

1711
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 4: ten and scoring ten in total defense. We've been turning

1712
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 4: the football over. We haven't been playing winning ball. I'm

1713
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 4: gonna have to go with right now.

1714
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 2: This is I'm going for the.

1715
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 4: Reverse jinks here because certainly we're on a little bit

1716
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 4: of a streak of predicting good things and not good

1717
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 4: things happening. So we go with the reverse jinks here.

1718
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 4: Dolphins twenty four to ten.

1719
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 3: Reverse jinks.

1720
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm all for the reverse jinks on that. Look, this

1721
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 2: is the thing that happens though, when you're in a

1722
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 2: season like this, like you have guys in the room

1723
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 2: that are gonna fight and play hard, and because they're pros,

1724
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 2: remember you play to win the game. I mean, that's

1725
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 2: there for a reason, and so they are going to

1726
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 2: give that type of effort. But on the peripheral, we're

1727
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 2: all sitting here going, eh, you know it might be

1728
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 2: best if not. So that's the thing where you kind

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Speaker 2: of war with each other at four o'clock down on

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Speaker 2: the lake. If it is Joel Botonio's last game and

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Speaker 2: there's that'll be a decision for later. But he intimated

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Speaker 2: that potentially he'd rethink sayings, let's give him a big

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Speaker 2: ovation on Sunday one way or another. Real quick.

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Speaker 4: I got to give a shout out to my buddy

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Speaker 4: Joey's daughter Olive.

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Speaker 2: Happy tenth birthday yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Ten.

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Speaker 2: There you go, decade. Let's go a decade old, all right?

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Speaker 2: The next level is coming up next. Have a great weekend, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland runs daily at fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of

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