1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Garrett Downing 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: and I'm joined today by Clifton Brown. We are here 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: at the NFL Owners meetings in West Palm Beach, Florida. 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: We just wrapped up the coaches breakfast here for the 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: AFC coaches had a chance to talk with head coach 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: Sean Harball for about a half hour this morning on 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: a wide arranging number of topics here and Clifton and 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: I are going to break it all down and share 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: what our takeaways are from that conversation and also what 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: we're hearing from down here at the breakers in Florida. So, Cliff, 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: just to start the conversation, what stood out to you 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: in the conversation with Harball this morning? 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Well, I just love how relaxed guys. Our coaches are 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: way more in this atmosphere than they are during the 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: regular season, where it's just coming off maybe a loss 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: and trying to think about what's the next we following it. John, 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: I think really I liked how much how good he 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: feels about this team. They've made a lot of offseason moves, 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: the Ravens ad and he told them how they could 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: play a game today. I really feel that way too, 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: that they have one of the best rosters in the 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: NFL right now. I talked about how obviously with Roddy 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: Stanley bringing him back and the other moves that they've made, 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: that they have the foundation for Super Bowl contender going 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: into the draft, and so they're in a great spot. 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: Now. 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: You look at coaches around the room. You know, Mike 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: Tomlin's right beside him. They're asking him who's going to 29 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: be their quarterback next year? We kind of know that 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: answer with the Raven say yeah, so yeah. I thought, 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: you know, it was a good getting good insight about 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: the positive vibes of John rball Fields right now. 33 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: Well, you talk about just the kind of relaxed atmosphere, 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: and that's certainly nice weather and palm trees and being 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: here in March. I think all that helps kind of 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: the relaxed nature of these meetings, and these meetings just 37 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: to set the stage here for listeners and viewers back home, 38 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: like they are really important. You have you're basically all 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: thirty two owners, head coaches, general managers, other key league personnel. 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: They're all here in one place, and so these meetings, 41 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of behind the scenes conversation. You know, 42 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: we're only privy to a portion of what actually happens 43 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: here during these meetings, So there's a lot that goes 44 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: on behind closed doors. But you're having rules conversations, You're 45 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: having conversations about the future. 46 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: Of the league. 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: Like, there's a lot of those types of discussions and 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: decisions that are made here at these meetings. And so 49 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: it's a pretty like the draft, of course, is a 50 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: huge offseason events. The Combine gets a ton of attention, 51 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: but in terms of league business, this event is really 52 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: one of the most significant on the calendar. 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: Yes, and you know, it's also fascinating to me the 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: insatiable appetite that people have for the NFL. I mean 55 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: we're in March, you know, and now you're an end 56 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: of March, going into April draft still a few weeks away. 57 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: I remember coming here a long time ago. You know, 58 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: it'd be five or six reporters around a head coach. Now, 59 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: you better get there early. I'm not going to have 60 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: a seat. You know, you've got John Only answering the 61 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: questions from the Baltimore media. There's people coming in popping 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 2: about you know, the twus pus rule change, it might 63 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: come and you know, he never knows what kind of 64 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: question are you're going to get now, But yeah, NFL 65 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: is a twelve month along, never stop cycle and this 66 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: has become a big part of it now that you 67 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: know these meetings, as you mentioned, everyone's here. They've already 68 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: been a lot of fascinating trades this offseason. But you 69 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: know the draft is coming up. There'll be some talks 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: here and that lead to something happening, you know, on 71 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: Draft night or close to it, involving you know, several 72 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: teams and you know the Ravens, we know Eric, the 73 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: consta likes to make a lot of moves. So you know, 74 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: anyone you want to talk to. You all had to 75 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: pick up the phone this week to talk to another 76 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: general manager, another owner, another coach. They're all right here. 77 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: So that always creates some things that are going to 78 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: happen down the road. Yeah. 79 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: So in terms of coach Harball, in the conversation with him, 80 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: the big news on that front was right before the 81 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: owners meeting started, we announced that the team and Harball 82 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: have agreed to a contract extension, a three year extension 83 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: through the twenty twenty eighth season. So that is is 84 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: big news obviously for both sides. Previously he was going 85 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: into the final year of his contract. Everyone thought that 86 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: a deal would get done at some point. It was 87 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: a matter of when, not if, And so the deal 88 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: gets done, and he talked about that today and of 89 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: course feeling like the Ravens are an organs, a great organization. Obviously, 90 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: there's been seventeen years, great years so far, with more 91 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: on the horizon. And he made the point that he 92 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: felt like he was five for five, and that came 93 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: out of a conversation with his agent, and he explained 94 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: that in saying that I've had when you look at it, 95 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: I've had the two best presidents in the National Football League, 96 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: and in Dick cast and Sashi Brown, the two best general 97 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: managers in the National Football League, and Ozzieknewsom and Eric Cossa, 98 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: and the best owner and Steve Bashati. And feels like 99 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: he's really fortunate to have been in this place as 100 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: long as he has, and the Ravens are fortunate that 101 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: Harvball's been their coach for as. 102 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 4: Long as he has. 103 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: So I think it's it's exciting for these two sides 104 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: to be able to continue of really fruitful relationship up 105 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: to this point. 106 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, we talk about John Harball, 107 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: the length of his ten you know, you may never 108 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: see this again in Raven's history, moving forward to a 109 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: coach being here for that law And to me, one 110 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: of the fascinating things about coach Arball is the juice 111 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: he brings to the job. The energy it seems to 112 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: be growing, not diminishing. I mean, he loves you talking 113 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: about people loving their job. He loves his job. The 114 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: enthusiasm he brings despite all these success he's had, the 115 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: passion never seems to weigh. And people now asking him 116 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: about how long he's going to coach, He didn't he 117 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: didn't want to hear any of that. Oh no, I mean, 118 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: you know, and to me, I think it's a natural 119 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: question that asks after you've done this so long, some 120 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: guys do get burned out. But he seems like the 121 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: love for his job, you know, is never ending. So 122 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: you know, having him under contract obviously before entering that 123 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: last year, that's something the Ravens always have done. They've 124 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: done it again. It's something that's behind him now. And yeah, 125 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: I don't think he was worried about it all because 126 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: both sides know disagreat. I mean it's a great fit. All. 127 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: He loves being the Ravens head coach. Steven Schatty on 128 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: down they love John being the head coach, and I 129 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: think it definitely adds to the stability of the Ravens 130 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: Franchise's one of the reasons why they always have been 131 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: so successful, because that continuity starts at the top and 132 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 2: certainly at the coaching spot. It has been there now 133 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: for long times. 134 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 135 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: The other thing too, I'd say is that like he's 136 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: not stagnant at all, Like he's always looking for ways 137 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: to evolve the scheme, to evolve the roster. And you 138 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: sell that in the conversation today, he's talking about the 139 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: three point zero version of the offense and making the 140 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: offense even better and more efficient despite being the best offense, 141 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: one of the best offenses in NFL history last year. 142 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: Talk about coaching changes and some of the defensive changes 143 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: that they've made, especially in the secondary, and so like 144 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: all of these things are examples of how he's just 145 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: constantly looking for ways to evolve as a coach and 146 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: as a staff. And I think that that is why 147 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: I think he's been able to to last as long 148 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: as he has and be as successful as he has 149 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: is because like a macho that he's had. I think 150 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: this is probably his whole life, probably instilled in him 151 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: from his parents, is like you're getting better, you're getting worse. 152 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: And he brings that type of mindset every single day 153 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: and so he's always looking for ways to evolve. And 154 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: we see that and I think and fancy it, of course, 155 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: and so I think that's part of the reason he's 156 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: been as good as he has. 157 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't stay the same else you are getting worse. 158 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: And this league is so competitive. I think that you know, 159 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: that's something that you can never lose sight of. Then 160 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: you know, even though you may be coming off a 161 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: good year, that teams are always looking to get better 162 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: and that if you have to keep the pace of 163 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: the Ravens have had successful years, but there's no complacency 164 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: set in. And of course you know in the Lamar 165 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: era chasing that cabin of the Super Bowl has always 166 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: been there and continues to be there. But you know, 167 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: I feel confident it's going to happen. As John mentioned today, 168 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: even after Lamar wins the super Bowl, it's not going 169 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: to stop. It's going to try and get too, can 170 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: we get three? That's how this league is that. You know, 171 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: a team like the Chief we saw what happened to 172 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: them in the Super Bowl this year. You know they 173 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: were able to have a great run, but at some 174 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: point the team's gonna catch you. Now the Eagles are 175 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: the team to compat and the Ravens are now one 176 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: of those seas. I think that when you see the 177 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: Ravens on your schedule, they get everyone's a game and 178 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: it gets harder and harder to stay. You know, they're 179 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: trying to win their third division championship in a row. 180 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: But that's the league. That's the nature of the league. 181 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: You have to keep getting better. But with Lamar, with John, 182 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: with so many competitive Eric, everyone in the Ravens organization 183 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: is so competitive they welcome that challenge. And you know 184 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: we saw that reflected the day in John's comment. 185 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Well, one thing you talked about, and this is probably 186 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: the big picture theme in a lot of ways for 187 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: the Ravens this offseason going into the next year, is 188 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: is the question of how you get over the hamp 189 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: The Ravens have been knocking on the door. They've been 190 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: in the playoffs every year but one since Lamar Jackson's 191 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: been the quarterback, and so they've been right there going 192 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: to the ANC Championship. What's the division around of course 193 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: last year, and so how do you get to that 194 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: next step, get to the super Bowl and win it? 195 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: And so he was asked that with the context of 196 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: something that Ronnie Stanley said after signing his contract, where Ronnie, 197 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: obviously a veteran player, made the point that the Ravens 198 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: just have to get out of their own way at times. 199 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: And so here's what Harbaugh said in response to that question. 200 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: And in terms of building a team and an approach 201 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: in order to get out of their own way and 202 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: take that next step. 203 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: That's a theme that we've had here, we've had for 204 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: seventeen years is get out of our own way. Beyond 205 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: the same page. You know, we really want to be 206 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: as in sync as we possibly can, and everything we do, 207 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 3: we try to chase every detail in terms of things 208 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: that are important winning football. We call it the winning 209 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 3: football intangibles. The impactful is the importance to winning. Those 210 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: are the things you want to be great at and 211 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 3: you're not going to be great. You're not going to 212 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: necessarily be perfect in all those things in every game. 213 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 3: But you want to chase perfection in every area. Get 214 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: into a game and things don't go your way, you 215 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: get you get unlucky, the ball doesn't mount your way, 216 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: you make mistakes, but the calls don't go your way. 217 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: Whatever it might be, you're still so good in all 218 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: the other areas that you're able to overcome those things 219 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: and find a way to win the game. Irregardless. We've 220 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: been able to do that a lot because we've won 221 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: a lot of games, and every one of these games 222 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: is really important and impactful. In the playoffs, we haven't 223 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: been able to put it together for you know, four games, 224 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 3: three or four games to win the Super Bowl Championship. 225 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 3: And that's that's the hard thing. That's why only one 226 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: team does it. So we understand that that's that's the 227 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: way it's set up. But we want to be that 228 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: team and we're good enough to do it, so we 229 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: want to find a. 230 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: Way to do it. 231 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: So the the the challenge there is, uh, the not 232 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: simple part of it is is setting everything up in 233 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: a way that uh makes those things intent that that 234 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: we're so that we're intentional about those things every single day, 235 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: so when those moments happen in the biggest moments, it's 236 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: something that we've been doing all along and that's normal 237 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: for us, and then we have the best chance, that's 238 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: to have it go our way in those games. And 239 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: that's that's what we're really talking about right now as 240 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: a coaching staff, is the best way to intentionalize all 241 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: those things so that you know, in those big moments 242 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: that we we can follow through and get to the end. 243 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: So obviously he said it's kind of built into everything 244 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: that they're doing, and I thought it was interesting because 245 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: sometimes coaches dismiss this notion, like you you can hear 246 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: that it's all just talk getting over the hump is 247 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: is more of a a it's a mental thing, not 248 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: an actual thing, and it's but he didn't like run 249 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: from that notion, like he kind of embraced it and 250 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: talking about how the Ravens need to build everything that 251 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: they do around this idea of like being in position 252 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: to take that next step, to be in a tough 253 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: situation that you respond well when it's a playoff game 254 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: in Buffalo and it's cold and it's snowy and all 255 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: that stuff, and so like everything it sounds like from 256 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: a like practical standpoint and from a mental standpoint, they're 257 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: building their team and their structure to be in position 258 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: to handle thats. 259 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: What did you think of that answer? 260 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was interesting. And they're still They're 261 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: always going to be thinking about it. Because the Ravens 262 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: know that they are good enough to win a super Bowl. 263 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: It's just a question of going out and doing it. 264 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: Playing your best football in the playoffs, that's really what 265 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 2: you want to do. If the Ravens accomplish that, then 266 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: they will win a super Bowl. They've been the best 267 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: team in the NFL, certainly, I believe in both twenty nineteen, 268 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: both twenty and twenty two, twenty three, And I believe 269 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: that they were certainly good enough to win a super 270 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: Bowl last year, but didn't play their best football in 271 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: the playoffs. That's the key to unlocking where they want 272 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: to go. And you have to be mentally tough enough 273 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: to handle the disappointment of not winning a super Bowl, 274 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: and you have to continue to be good enough to 275 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: be a team that can win the Super Bowl. So 276 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: the Ravens are both to me, I think that they've 277 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 2: shown mental toughness already in that every year during lamar Era, 278 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: despite them not reaching their ultimate goal. They came back 279 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: to file year with even more drive to accomplish it. 280 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: Their disappointments have not broken them. There's determinists ever to 281 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: win a super Bowl. I think that they feel that 282 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 2: they're getting closer to figuring it out and so now 283 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: its just a question of doing it. And I think 284 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: it's important. Next season all of last season, I think 285 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: mentally will be a race because every season is new. 286 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: Just because they went to the playoffs last year, they 287 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: have gone you know often in John Harball's tenure doesn't 288 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: guarantee anything. Next year's team will be different and they'll 289 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,119 Speaker 2: have to prove it again. But I think the Ravens, 290 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 2: under coach alive Ball and certainly Lamar Jackson leading the 291 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: way in the locker room, with the talent they have, 292 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: there's not going to be a hangover off of last year. 293 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: I think they'll be ready to go all right. 294 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: So I want to hit some of the news items 295 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: from the coach's breakfast this morning, and we can break 296 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: those down in more detail. A couple of them. One 297 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: of the Mark Andrews. There's been conversation around Mark and 298 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: is he back. Definitely, he's going in splash of his 299 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: contract what's the status. And John Harball was very clear 300 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: in saying that he expects Mark Andrews to be on 301 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: this team this year. 302 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 4: He's just too good of a player and so. 303 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: That I think a lot of people felt that way, 304 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: But there was just kind of this lingering question of 305 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: what's going to happen on that front. So that's that's 306 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: I think really big and look, you and I with 307 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: big Mark Andrews fans. 308 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that. 309 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: And I know the last season didn't end the way 310 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: that the Ravens or Mark would have wanted. And he's 311 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: like his own toughest critic, but Mark Andrews has been 312 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: He's been, He's a he's a Ring of Honor type player, 313 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: and him and Lamar Jackson have been in this thing 314 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: together since day one, and I think that it's fitting 315 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: for them to try to try to get over that hunt. 316 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: Like we're talking about, he spent all this time just 317 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: talking about taking that next step. I think the two 318 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: of those guys doing it together is really significant, right. 319 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: I mean, Mark Andrews still one of the best tight 320 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: ends in football, no question. I think that how how 321 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: determined will he be after what happened to come back 322 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: and have his best best year. If you know Mark 323 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: at all, you know that that is not going to 324 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: be something that you know, breaks him, defeats him mental league, 325 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: and that's going to linger. I think he'll be so 326 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: eager and is so eager to get back next year. 327 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: And the Ravens with him have, in my opinion, the 328 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: best tight end group in football. That's not something that, 329 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: to me, you want to break up easily, because if 330 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: something were to happen unfortunately to want those to be 331 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: tight ends, they still have the talent with that room 332 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: to continue as long as Mark and likely and Charlie 333 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: kohl A, they're all three of them leading the way. 334 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,239 Speaker 2: You know, Lamar and Mark Andrews have a special relationship. 335 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: That's also something you don't want to break up easily 336 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: before you think about doing it. And he's such a 337 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: great player. Mark is in the red zone. So for 338 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: many many reasons, I'm not surprised that John, you know, 339 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: really kind of you know, took Mark as far as saying, 340 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: stop worrying about him not being here. He is going 341 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: to be here. He's such a talented player. You know, hopefully, 342 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: you know, Ravens fans, you know, we'll go see Mark 343 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: be helping hosting a Lombardi Trophy one year. But certainly 344 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: I think that, yeah, it's not a surprise that he 345 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: that he is back. 346 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think A good point you make too, is 347 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: it's not just like this is a legacy thing, like, oh, 348 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: he's been a really good player and he's accomplished so 349 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: much so you want him here, Like he's still a 350 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: really good player. But he had eleven touchdowns last year, 351 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: and so he led the team in touchdowns last season, 352 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: such a good red zone threat, trusted target for Lamar. 353 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: And he started the season slow, like he came out 354 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: of the gate slow last year. He had the car accident, 355 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: he's kind of banged up early in the year and 356 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: then got rolling and then at once he once once 357 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, the balls rolling downhill. There was no stop 358 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: in it. And he was so productive over the course 359 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: of the season. And so yeah, he's still a highly 360 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: productive player and an important piece of this offense. The 361 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: Ravens offense, as we just talked about, is was the 362 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: best in the league last year, one of the best 363 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: we've ever seen. And so like you want to keep 364 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: that going, you want to keep and removing Mark from 365 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: that as a that'd. 366 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 4: Be really tough. 367 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: It'd be really tough to keep the offense at the 368 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: level of productivity, especially from a scoring standpoint in the 369 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: red zone. 370 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 4: He's so good in that area. 371 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: So I think there's probably a lot of Ravens fans 372 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: are excited to hear that news. 373 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think again, Mark still is at 374 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: a point of his career. He might have his best 375 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: year next year. I mean, to me, you mentioned a 376 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: good point that he was playing some of his best 377 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: football late in the season, and that anchorage we had 378 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago was really serious, and I 379 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: thought that that, combined with the car accident, was part 380 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: of the reason why he did get off to a 381 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: slow start. And I thought, I think he felt better 382 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: in December and January physically that he did earlier last season. 383 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 2: So now he has a full off season to be healthy. 384 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: You know what a workout worry he is. I think 385 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: he's gonna come back, you know, for trained a gay 386 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: I can imagine what he's gonna look like. 387 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna be so motivated too, by the way to 388 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: the end. He's gonna be so motivated by that Buffalo 389 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: game and be driven to erase that memory up. So 390 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: that was a big point of coming out of this 391 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: press conference today. Another one Lamar Jackson. So, of course 392 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is under contract here for several more seasons, 393 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: signed a five year deal, but that cap hit really 394 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: balloons next year. And Harball was asked about the possibility 395 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: of are you going to going to adjust that contract? 396 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: Eric Costa reference that possibility at the Combine, you know, 397 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: last month, and he Harbaugh said that they've had internal 398 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: discussions and conversations around working at a contract extension with 399 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, and when that time comes, then he'll just 400 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: become the highest paid player in football, just like he 401 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: was the last time he signed the contract. And that's 402 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: how it works for quarterbacks. Whoever gets the new deal, 403 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: who's a premier quarterback, ends up being the highest paid 404 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: player until the next guy gets a deal. And so 405 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: when he was, there's been a few more players that 406 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: have gotten those those contracts signed, justin Herbert, I can't 407 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: even remember all of them, but there's been number of 408 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: several players who have signed contracts since Lamar signed his 409 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: deal two years ago. And so the time is it's 410 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: only a matter of time until they get that done. 411 00:18:59,040 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 4: And I think that. 412 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: I think that speaks to what we've been discussing in 413 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, like the core and the continuity 414 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: that's in place with Lamar's the quarterback, with John as 415 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: the head coach, with Steven, with Eric, like this is 416 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: the core and they are working towards this Super Bowl together. 417 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: Right, and maneuvering the salary cap is always going to 418 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 2: be It's part of it, yeah, part of the cause 419 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: of doing business. When you have a great quarterback where 420 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 2: like Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow Patrick Mahomes, you know 421 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: you're going to have to manipu move around the salary 422 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: cap to make sure that you can continue to improve 423 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: and build a team around them that can help them 424 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. The Ravens, I think have been 425 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 2: very good at that. But since Lamar just signed this 426 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: most recent contract that is now from now to the 427 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: rest of his career, that's going to be part of 428 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: the equation of building the Ravens maneuvering around Lamar's contract. 429 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 2: So the Ravens I think so far have done a 430 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: very good job. Look at all the moves they've made 431 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: this offseason, and even though Lamar is under this contract, 432 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: when they move forward, They're going to have to continue 433 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: to make adjustments, but you know, Lamar's open to that. 434 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 2: Both sides know that's part of the deal. And Lamar 435 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: always has been open about wanting to bring guys into 436 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 2: the Ravens fold. He loved it when they got Derek Henley, 437 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: he loves it they have DeAndre Hopkins. If you're going 438 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: to get players like that, you have to have room 439 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 2: to make those moves. And Lamar and the Ravens are 440 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: going to be a partnership moving forward, making sure that 441 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: in spite of the fact that he's going to have always 442 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: have a huge bag, that other guys can also come 443 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 2: in to win help him win games. 444 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: Well in Hardwell reference this like he made the point, 445 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: like Lamar, it's a matter of it's a matter of when, 446 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: not if, for Lamar winning a Super Bowl, And he 447 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: said that today. Now he's been he's been Lamar's you know, 448 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: biggest fan of supporter of course as he came into 449 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: the league. But there's a real belief internally and externally 450 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: I think too. But like the Ravens have this belief 451 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: that they're gonna win Super Bowl with Lamar Jackson's quarterback. 452 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: He's just too good of a player, and like when you, 453 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: I mean you've been covering sports like the bet for 454 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: a long time. You the best players. Oftentimes it can 455 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: take some time, but then they break through. And when 456 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: you look at like iconic players of generations, they typically 457 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: win that championship. There's a handful that don't, but typically speaking, 458 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: they win that championship. And the Ravens believe that that's 459 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: gonna happen with Lamar and that's part of the reason 460 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: that they want him in Baltimore for as long as possible. 461 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: And he is at the height of his game, but 462 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens think he can even take another step. And 463 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bet against that because a year ago 464 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: when we were having this conversation, I was like, he 465 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: was just an MVP again, I don't know how much 466 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: better you can get. And then he took it to 467 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: another level, So could he get even better? Like, I'm 468 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: not betting against that. I'm just not gonna do that. 469 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, a lot of people who are younger than me, 470 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: and there are a lot of them, uh don't even realize. 471 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: Don't know what it took Michael Jordan leave his eighth 472 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: year to win his first championship. He won seven years 473 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: the great Michael jord without winning an NBA championship. More recently, 474 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning the great career he had, he was getting 475 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: a lot of the same you know questions that Lamar 476 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: was getting early in his career. Peyton Mann, I believe 477 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: maybe lost his first three playoff games. He wasn't getting 478 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: far in the playoffs at all when he've literally got 479 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: in there. It's a question of again being mentally strong enough, 480 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: believing in yourself, knowing what's gonna happen. And think about 481 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: Lamar's career, I mean, the last player taken in the 482 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: first round. I mean, he's always had things to prove. 483 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 2: Now that seems outrageous that thirty one players could have 484 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: been taken ahead of him. He's already done things that 485 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 2: a lot of people didn't think he could do. He 486 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: is taking his game every year. To me, he's gotten 487 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: better and better. I don't think that that trend is 488 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: gonna stop anytime soon. So yeah, I mean it's you 489 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: don't you can't say it's a guarantee he's going to 490 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: win a super Bowl, but I guarantee you that he's 491 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: going to get you to Chase and Chase and Chase 492 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: and that he believes he's going to win multiple super 493 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 2: Bowls and the people who play with him believe he's 494 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: gonna win win multiple super Bowls. As long as that's true, 495 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: then really the outside noise doesn't matter. 496 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 4: And the people who employ him. 497 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 2: Absolutely he's got a whatich he does? You have to 498 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: block all that out. He's had to deal with that 499 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: his whole life, questions about can he do this? Yeah, 500 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: he's a great athlete, but can he do this? I 501 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 2: think that's gonna help him. I think it's helping him now. 502 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: That's been his life story. So the fact that he 503 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: hasn't won a super Bowl yet is not gonna affect 504 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. And yeah, if mine better putting my thoughts 505 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: and beliefs on whether he's gonna win a super Bowl 506 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: or not, Yes, I definitely feel that way and more 507 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: than one. So hopefully for Ravens fans it's gonna happen 508 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: this year. But Lamar I believe is gonna be a 509 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: guy that with his career is said and done, he 510 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 2: is gonna be viewed like a Peyton Manning, like, ain't 511 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. He's not gonna be you know, Dan Marino. 512 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: The first when you comes to mind a great quarterback 513 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 2: who didn't win one. You know, Charles Barkley, a great 514 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: player who didn't win one. Lamar I believe is not 515 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: going to be in that club, and more importantly, he 516 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: believes that as well. 517 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 4: All Right, so we'll take a quick break. 518 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll dive into some of the 519 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: other news items from head coach John Harbaugh. You're listening 520 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: to the Lounge podcast when the Sea Gheek Studio Sigeek 521 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: Studios on the road this week. We're down here in 522 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: Florida at in West Palm Beach at the annual owners meetings. 523 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: We also want to mention our partners at Draft Kings Sportsbook. 524 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: They are an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore 525 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: Ravens Draft Kings Sportsbook. 526 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 4: The Crown is yours. 527 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: So this is the first time we've had a chance 528 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: to talk with John Harvell since some of the off 529 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: season moves have been made. Ronnie Stanley extension, bringing in 530 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, bringing in chio O Wooziet cornerback. And you 531 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: could tell in listening to him like he is excited 532 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: about the state of this team. Here's what he had 533 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: to say in talking about the offseason moves as a whole. 534 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 3: Your best way to describe it. I love the fact 535 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: that we can line up and play right now. You know, 536 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: I've heard I've heard it said before, and it's a 537 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 3: good philosophy. You know, we don't play any games still September, 538 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: so when you have issues or holes, if you want 539 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 3: to call it that, you do have time to get better. 540 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 3: But we could play a game right now with our roster. 541 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: We have a really good roster right now. I love 542 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: our players, I love our depth, even not that we 543 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: can't get better. So what our mission right now is 544 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 3: to try to improve, is to try to take next 545 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 3: take to the next level. And the way the roster 546 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: is set up, it gives us an opportunity to really 547 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: to go after the best player we can get, you know, 548 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 3: whatever the position might be, to improve our team and 549 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: make the whole better. So looking forward to the draft, 550 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: we still have some options in free agency. 551 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: Keep improving. 552 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: So clearly, in hearing from him, he just feels like Ravens, goog, 553 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: go out there and play, And I agree with that, 554 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: Like you look through this team and the Ravens, there's 555 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: a couple of questions, roster spots up for grabs in 556 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: terms of starting left guard and what's the week's linebackers 557 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: spot gonna look like, and what exactly is gonna the 558 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: secondary is going to look like. But like for the 559 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: most part, the twenty two starting jobs on offense and defense, 560 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: you at least have someone penciled in there, and like, 561 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: there's competitions, but the Ravens are in a really good 562 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: spot and in a lot of those positions you have 563 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: good depth too. Like, I just think the Ravens are 564 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: in a really good position roster wise going into the 565 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: rest of this offseason. 566 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he was candid about the Ronnie Stanley 567 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 2: resigning how important it was, you know that that had 568 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 2: not happened. Left tackle was something they were definitely going 569 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: to have to address in a big way. So to me, 570 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: that kind of set the first That was the first 571 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: domino that kind of fell the Ravens' way in the 572 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: off season. And then you add on some of the 573 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: other moves they've made. They've really i think, you know, 574 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: strengthened themselves despite the losses they've had. You know, so 575 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: there are only a few areas now you're wondering who's 576 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: going to be the starter. I thought his comments about 577 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 2: Trenton Simpson were interesting. You know, Trenton Simpson, he still 578 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: views him as a starter, and he talked about how 579 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: hard Trenton is working in this offseason to improve on 580 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: his play last year. And then yeah, he feels he's 581 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 2: going to have a better year and that he's driven 582 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 2: to really secure that spot. And then Patrick Queen made 583 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: a huge jump his third year. He expects to save 584 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: from Trenton Simptons. So it'll be interesting. Obviously the draft 585 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: coming up that's going to reset the roster and strengthen 586 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 2: their depth. But the Ravens, I think they're kind of 587 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: running it back and we've talked about this offseason since 588 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: it ended that they feel that they are good enough 589 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 2: to win a Super Bowl. They didn't have to tear 590 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 2: it down or make major changes. They need to just 591 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: augment what they already had to get to that next level. 592 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: And that's what they're doing. That's what they're continuing to do. 593 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: But I think, considering your salary cap situation, you have 594 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: to be really pleased with the Ravens have been able 595 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: to do so far this offseason. 596 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: Well, he brought up the addition of cornerback Chidoh Woozie, 597 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: and I thought it was pretty interesting because this was 598 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: a move that doesn't get a ton of fanfare, but 599 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: he brought it up pretty quickly and with excitement and 600 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: talking about how this is a guy you look at 601 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: the advanced metrics on him, his cover skills are great. 602 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: The issue with him, especially last year was injuries, and 603 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: he's had a couple of injuries in the last few 604 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: seasons that have hurt his ability to stay on the 605 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: field and be as productive as he had earlier in 606 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: his career. But he made the point that the Ravens 607 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: feel like they can get him in the building, work 608 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: with the team's athletic training staff, medical staff, maybe clean 609 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: up some of those soft tissue issues, and he can 610 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: play at a really high level. And I'll tell you, 611 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: like I had a chance to meet Cheetoh when he 612 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: was in the building last week. Really impressive, really impressive, 613 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: just seemed super smart, passionate, driven, felt like he had 614 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: something to prove. All those things really stood out to me. 615 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: Also talked about the fact that John Harbor was big 616 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: in recruiting him and that was one of the deciding 617 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 1: factors for him in coming here. The conversations that they 618 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 1: had during the process. So I think the Ravens are 619 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: pretty feel pretty good about him and what he'll bring 620 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: to the secondary. And you have him and Nate Wiggins 621 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: who can start. You of course have Marlon Humphrey who 622 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: can start outside or inside. But when you look at 623 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: the secondary overall, Harball also made the point that they 624 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: really like Marlon inside. They like him sliding into that 625 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: slot position where he can be closer to the ball, 626 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: he can play with like the physical style that he has. 627 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: And so I think that if you're like lining it 628 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: up right now, your two outside corners are going to 629 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: be Nate Wiggins and Cheeto, and then you're going to 630 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: have Marlon Humphrey played the slot position, and then it's safety. 631 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 4: That's the kind of the great unknown. 632 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: Right now, You're gonna have Kyle Hamilton and our Darius Washington. 633 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: But the Ravens still want to add a third safety. 634 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: But they have just this versatility where they can slide 635 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton down, they put another safety on the field. 636 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: Marlon can play inside or outside. So there's so many 637 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: options in this secondary. But I just think that overall, 638 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: I think that fans are probably sleeping a little bit 639 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: on the significance of the edition of Cheetoh who's in. 640 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I've been told that Cheeto he loves playing chess. 641 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: He's a big time chess player. Maybe he brings that 642 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: into life, but certainly he's another chess piece that the 643 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: Ravens have in that secondary and we all know the 644 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: Ravens history. They love corners the way I love chocolate 645 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: ice cream. I mean, they just always want to have 646 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: deep cornerback depth. He gives them more audition to that. 647 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: Nate Wiggins had an excellent rookie season. I expect him 648 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: to be even better next year. You mentioned about Kyle 649 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: Hamilton being a chess piece that they want to move 650 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: over the field. Kyle's such a unique player that, yes, 651 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: I definitely do feel that one of their priorities at 652 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: this point is to get another safety who can be 653 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: more traditional, to allow Kyle to use all the skills 654 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: that he's blessed with. And then you talk about you 655 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: have two players like Marlon Humphrey and Kyle Hamilton who 656 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: are unique players, not just Pro Bowl players. Unique that 657 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: gives you, know, the quarterbacks at the face. You know, 658 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow twice a year when he comes to line 659 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: of scrimmage, he never knows where he may see Kyle 660 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: Hamilton or Marlin Humphrey or some of the other line up. 661 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: And then you have guys like ro Kwan Smith helping 662 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: to orchestrate the whole thing. That's the kind of defense 663 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: of Ravens. What And I asked John all the day 664 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: about is he encouraged by the way the defense played 665 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: down the stretch compared to the struggles they had early 666 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: last season, And obviously he said yes, but yeah, that 667 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: gives him the belief that they can start from where 668 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: they left off last year, that there won't be the 669 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: growing page, you know, Zach's first year, you know, personnel, 670 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: you know a little bit different and having to make 671 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: some start moves in the lineup. I think they have 672 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: a better grasp on where the defense is now than 673 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: they did at this time last year, and that there's 674 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: a much better chance they'll start the season being one 675 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: of the top defenses in the league. And if the 676 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: Ravens have a top defense combined with what they can 677 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: do offensively, great formula for. 678 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 4: Winning, yeah, then they could be the best team in 679 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 4: the league. 680 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean that that's I think that that's where 681 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: that's we talked about, Like what's the ceiling for this team? 682 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: Like if if the defense picks up where they left 683 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: off and they play really well and the offense continues 684 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: to build on what they've been, it's hard to see 685 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: this team, you know, not being one of, if not 686 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: the best team in the league. The other point on 687 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: two in the secondary, he brought up some of the 688 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: depth players who the Ravens are excited about. They're excited 689 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: about TJ. Tampa going into his second season. Uh, they're excited. 690 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: They're excited about Jalen armor Davis and his potential as 691 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: a as a player who's look good but just hasn't 692 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: been able to stay on the field. Like, I'm still 693 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: to your point about wanting corners, Like I'm not at 694 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: all ruling out the potential of drafts in a corner 695 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: high like with it, if they take a first round 696 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: corner would not surprise me one bit, not one bit. 697 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 698 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: But if they don't go that route, I think they 699 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: have the pieces in place to go out there and 700 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: play and not really be in a bad spot. Like 701 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: I think that they stay healthy in the secondary, the 702 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: group that they have at the cornerback spot will be 703 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: in a really good place regardless of what they add 704 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: in the draft, So I think they're in a really 705 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: good position. A couple other notes here news wise, on 706 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, running back two points. 707 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: When we talked about a Lamar Jackson extension, he was 708 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: also asked about a Derek Henry extension possibility. This has 709 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: been something that Da Costa has talked about this offseason 710 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: as well. Sounds like that's still on the table and 711 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: that the Ravens are optimistic about the possibility of getting 712 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: that done too. 713 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously we know what Derrick Henry did last year. 714 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: The way he just came in, it's. 715 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: Pretty good year. Pretty good first year of Baltimore, I'll 716 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 4: take it. 717 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: And he talked a lot about how much he loved 718 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: playing with the Ravens. And that's another thing coming back 719 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: to the Ravens culture, that when they bring in veteran 720 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: players who have played their entire career sometimes elsewhere, they 721 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: immediately feel comfortable and enjoy playing with the Ravens. So yeah, 722 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: I expect at some point the extension for Derrick Emry 723 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: to get done, because he said he wants to finish 724 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: his career here. So if Derek Henry wants to finish 725 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: his career for my football team. That's going to happen. 726 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, and then I thought also Keithon Mitchell asked 727 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: about him guy coming off a major injury last year. 728 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 2: We didn't see the best of Keaton because just recovering 729 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: from that devastating injury was a real grind. I think 730 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 2: he's a guy who this year will be much healthier 731 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: from the start. Justice Hill coming off his best season. 732 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: I talked about the Ravens, in my opinion, have the 733 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: best tight end group in the league. I also feel 734 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: they have the best. 735 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to see a better running back group, 736 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: like when you obviously with Derek leading the way and 737 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: then the guys they have backing him up. Justice Hill 738 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: had a great season last year, earned himself a contract extension, 739 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: and I Keithon Mitchell, like Harbam, made the point super 740 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 1: serious knee injury going back two years. So the fact 741 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: that he played in all last year, the Ravens felt 742 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: like that was almost an accomplishment ended up itself, just 743 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: like just getting on the field last year year after 744 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: that injury was significant. 745 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 4: Was he at his best? He wasn't. 746 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: He was working his way back and so I think 747 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: that there's real optimism around what he can bring. And 748 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: like when you talk about Derek, Henry's going to get 749 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: the heaviest workload, of course, but you want him to 750 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: be fresh all throughout the year. And as we said 751 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 1: many times last year with Keaton Mitchell, he doesn't need 752 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: volume necessarily to make an impact. He can have one 753 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: carry and take it to the house. He just has 754 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: that home run threat. And so I think that that's 755 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: like a perfect balance to what Derek gives you as 756 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: the bell cow, what Justice gives you as a third 757 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: down back and receiver out of the backfield, and then 758 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: you have Keaton that you can mix in there with 759 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: big play potential. 760 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 4: And like the Ravens draft of Rashein a Lee last year. 761 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: Who showed some flashes and the Ravens like him as 762 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: well as a late round pick, so he's not out 763 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: of the mix either. So I would agree with you, 764 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: I'd be hard pressed to find a better overall running 765 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: back group than what the Ravens have right there. 766 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 4: So I'm really excited about that group. 767 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the Ravens they were last year a 768 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 2: team that could hurt you in so many ways offensively 769 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 2: and I definitely feel for young players it's even more 770 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 2: important early in their career. You hope that they stay healthy. 771 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 2: That you know, you dwelt about guys like TJ. Tampa 772 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: and Jalen armor Davis that you know injuries have set 773 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: them back. You know, Keith Mitchell, another young player, had 774 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: a serious injury early. When you're a veteran player and 775 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: you've already been there, done that in the league, when 776 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 2: you suffer an injury, you already know, I just need 777 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: to get back healthy and I'll be able to do 778 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: these things. I think for a younger player it can 779 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: be a little more difficult to set their development back 780 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: a little bit more if they have a serious injury early. 781 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 2: But Keith and Mitchell, that speed he brings, Yeah, that's 782 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 2: that's a game change. And I mean again, he doesn't 783 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 2: have to be a guy and won't be a guy 784 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 2: who has to carry fifteen twenty times a game. But 785 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: the Ravens have so many weapons, and Todd Munkin I 786 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 2: think does a great job of utilizing those weapons week 787 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: to week. They become a very difficult team to contain. 788 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 2: And you wanna see some new wrinkles with Todd Monkin. 789 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 2: This year. With the mind he has and the tools 790 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: he has to work with, we always know. I mean, 791 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: he might be at a playground right somewhere right now. 792 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: I met he's in front of his white war drawing 793 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: up players right now. That's if I had a guess, 794 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: he's doing that exactly. 795 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: So I think the Ravens, even though he had a 796 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: great offense last year, this is this is not the 797 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: ceiling that we've seen. They're still ascending in my opinion. 798 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So those are some of the big takeaways that 799 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 1: we had after hearing from head coach John Harwall here 800 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: at the Owner's Meetings of West Palm Beach, Florida. 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