1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can I Am six forty? 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Can't I Am six forty even we're stimulating talk radio 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: the John Cobelt Show on every day from one until four, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: and every day after four you go to the iHeart 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: app for John Cobelt' show on demand and that's the 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: podcast same as the radio show. We open with a 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: happy birthday message, Deborah Mark. It's a birthday today. It's 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: a big day. Usually it falls during Thanksgiving weekend. It does, 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: so it seems like I get jipped. It's been quite 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: a few years since you got to celebrate on air. 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: Then I got to be here for. 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: Your brain No, and you know what John did. It 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: was really sweet. John does not like anything vegan. 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 4: In fact, when I bring him in something for his 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 4: birthday or the holidays, he makes me swear promise that 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 4: it's not vegan, and. 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Then you give me something vegan and I don't know, I. 19 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: Did a long time ago when we were doing jokes. 20 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: So John went to and he didn't even know this, 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: but actually one. 22 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 4: Of my favorite vegan bakeryes and he brought me vegan cupcakes. 23 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 4: I did post this online on our socials. He also 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: brought me French fries for in and out, which were 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 4: also vegan. And the best part of all this is 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 4: that John ate one of the cupcakes that he brought me. 27 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: We did a little cheers. It was very cute where 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: we we each touched the other person's cupcake and then 29 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: ate them. Hold that doesn't sound so good, you want 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 3: to rephrase. 31 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: It's not better in. 32 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 3: My head, we both play cupcakes together. 33 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it just well, you have lovely cupcakes. 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: I will thank you. 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: But you made a promise to me. 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: What was that promise? 37 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: You sing happy? 38 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: I don't remember that. 39 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: She's trying to She's trying to pretend that I have 40 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: dementia and that I don't remember promising this yet. 41 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: She said, I love working with you so much. 42 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: You're the best, and I'm going to do something that 43 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 4: I hardly ever do. 44 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: Oh what's that, John? 45 00:01:59,320 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 5: You said? 46 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: I I will sing happy Birthday because I don't. 47 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: Think conversation is entirely made up. That's that's an AI conversation. 48 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: Come on, No, no. 49 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: No, come on, John, please please to embarrassing. You'll both 50 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: end up leaving. No, because he'll record it and it'll 51 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: be plagued back for the rest of my life. 52 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: So I know, I take one for the team. 53 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: John. Let me let me think about it. 54 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: I thought you really liked me. 55 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: T girls don't manipulate today. All right, maybe. 56 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,279 Speaker 3: Later, Okay you heard that, Eric, get up your courage. 57 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: Maybe and later, So. 58 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: I take that as a yes. Later. 59 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: I think we know what the postophone auction should be. 60 00:02:49,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: Now, I'm really sorry you said that. Yeah, we have 61 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: we have a show to do next hour. We're going 62 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: to have Roger Bailey on. He's the attorney for thousands 63 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: of Palisades residents who lost their homes. And Uh, I 64 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: got a call last night that Roger had a major 65 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: document that he wants to share. I'm going to give 66 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: you a little bit of a highlight now and then 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 2: we're going to go deeper into it in the two 68 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: o'clock hour. But uh, you're you're not going to believe this. 69 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: But it looks like the official California state policy was 70 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: to let that fire area burn. That was actually state 71 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: policy in writing that. Uh, the land where the Lockman 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: fire started and then reignited as the Palisades fire. It 73 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: it was basically the same fire. It had cooled somewhat 74 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: on The firefire treated it on the first January, but 75 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: it was still smoldering. As we now found out, the 76 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: rocks were hot, that the tree stumps were hot. There 77 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: was still smoke coming out of the ground and out 78 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: of the debris. And that area that burned is part 79 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 2: of Tapega State Park. 80 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: It's state land. 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: I don't think Gavin Knews revealed any of this well. 82 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: State of California finally sent a document to Roger Bailey's office. 83 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: It is the park Wildfire Mitigation Plan for Topega State Park. 84 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: And if you go to page fifteen. Now you don't 85 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: have page fifteen, but I do. It says the intent 86 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: of this wildlife management plan is to provide a framework 87 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: for number one, preventing unwonted wildfire events through fuel modification 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 2: and planning. Number two, guiding wildfire suppression techniques to protect 89 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: human life and livelihood, park infrastructure and so on. Number 90 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: three preserving preserving unique landscapes and enhancing wildlife habitat through 91 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: vegetation management. Unless you're ready, unless specified otherwise, State Parks 92 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: prefers to let to Penga State Park burn in a 93 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: wildfire event. 94 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: That was the official policy. Now this part of. 95 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: The park happens to be adjacent to a lot of homes, 96 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: but the land itself is parkland, and apparently it wasn't 97 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: well maintained, and there was a lot of fuel, and 98 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: the fire got going. And even when there were extreme 99 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:57,119 Speaker 2: warnings about heavy winds, set out of conditions red flag 100 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: warning conditions. Despite the new numerous warnings for a week 101 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: in advance, they decided, I guess to stick with their policy. 102 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: State parks prefer to let to Pega State Park burn 103 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: in a wildfire event. In case you wonder what why. 104 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: The response was non existent and the Gavin Newsom did 105 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: not send any state trucks there, any any equipment whatsoever. 106 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: Nothing was deployed, he claimed he did later, but he 107 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: lied nothing was sent because nothing was allowed to be 108 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: sent according to their policy. 109 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: Let's go to page twenty. 110 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: To Panga State Park has twenty six special special status 111 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: plant species and twenty one special status animal species. Wildfire 112 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: is the and I'm skipping through. Wildfire is the dynamic 113 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: natural force which renews the vegetative communities of the mountains. 114 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: Listen to this. 115 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: The majority of the park has not burned in over 116 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: fifty years. To restore the natural fire frequency and chaparral habitats. 117 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: Chapparral's all the shrubbery and brush. Tapega State Park should 118 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: be left to burn within reasonable public safety limits and 119 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: outside of fire exclusion zones. So there you have it. 120 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: That was the policy. Let it burn, don't put it out. 121 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: We have special plant species, special animal species, and we 122 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: need fire in order for the park to renew. Oh yeah, 123 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: we know there's a lot of people who live in 124 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: the palisades, but you know, bad luck for them, huh. 125 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: Page thirty three, And this explains why that troll came 126 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: from the State Park Department and told the LA Fire 127 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: Department to stop using a bulldozer to build a fire break. 128 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: Page thirty three. Avoidance areas. Avoidance areas are where no 129 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: heavy equipment, vehicles, and retardant are allowed, and they are 130 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: grouped together and shaded in red on the attached maps. 131 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: Avoidance area maps will be provided to the ICE as 132 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: physical and digital copies. I'm not sure what the IC is, 133 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: but and Bailey writes in his notes, this is consistent 134 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: with the reports we've received that state parks prohibited firefighters 135 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: from using bulldovers post bulldozers during the Lockman fire. Going 136 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: back to page twenty where I said the parks should 137 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: be left to burn within reasonable public safety limits. The state, 138 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 2: according to Bailey, is the one who determines what reasonable 139 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: public safety limits are, and in the case of the 140 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: Lockman fire, the state obviously decided that there were no 141 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: public safety limits, so the embers were allowed to smolder 142 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: on its land for days until the fire, the Palatines 143 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: fire ignited. So what happened on January seventh, that was 144 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: the result of Gavin Newsom's official state policy on dealing 145 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: with fire into Pega State Park. 146 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: We have more coming up here. 147 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 148 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 5: six forty. 149 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: You follow us at John Cobelt Radio on social media 150 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: at John coblt Radio. 151 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 5: End. 152 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: Now you should be subscribing on YouTube because we have 153 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 2: a YouTube channel and we're putting up videos quite often 154 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: longer segments. 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He wrote to us, 164 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: I don't know, well, I don't want to know what 165 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: the specific subject of the hearing, you know, court hearing, 166 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: so we will find out from Roger, but just to 167 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: briefly give you the highlights. He got a hold from 168 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: the State of California the park wild fire mitigation plan 169 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: for Topanga State Park because the Lockman Fire, which turned 170 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: into the Palisades Fire a week later, is on to 171 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: Panga State Park Land. Yes, Gavin Newsom governed land, and 172 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: on one page it says state parks prefers to let 173 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: to Bega State Park burn in a wildfire event. On 174 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: another page is to penga state parks should be left 175 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: to burn within reasonable public safety limits, and the state 176 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: determines what that reasonable limit is. So apparently, those of 177 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: you in the Palisades, it was reasonable to Gavin Newsom's 178 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: administration to have the whole have the whole town burn. 179 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: By the way. 180 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: Next segment, seems like Karen Bass made an appearance on 181 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: CNN last night on Alex Michaelson's show, The Story Is, 182 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: and he she lashed out at Spencer Pratt, who's on 183 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: our show last week, for spreading misinformation and unspecified other people. 184 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm an unspecified other person. It's might 185 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: be it's a man like being an unindicted co conspirator. Yes, 186 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: Spencer Pratt and others posting misinformation. And she thinks Pratt 187 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: is deliberately inaccurate. You know, she's such a scoundrel. Why 188 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: don't you come in here, Karen, sit down, and we'll 189 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: go through all the evidence. You can take it. I'm 190 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: sure right, and we'll go through line by line. We 191 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: could sit here for hours and hours and you could 192 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: explain what the true story is. Since you think everybody 193 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: else is spreading misinformation, whatever that is, would that be lies? 194 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: Can't be lies. We all saw what happened. And now 195 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 2: Roger Bailey's got this document which says, oh no, this 196 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: actually this all tracks so Panga State Park should burn. 197 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: Says it on page fifteen and page twenty. On page 198 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: threat thirty three, this explains why that state park troll 199 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 2: chased away. LA Fire Department avoidance areas were no heavy equipment, 200 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: vehicle and retardant are allowed are grouped together and shaded 201 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: and read on the attached maps. And that's why when 202 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: LA Fire Department took out bulldozers to work the land 203 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: after the January first fire, well they were chased away 204 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: page forty one. The neighborhoods of Caste Lamar and Pacific 205 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: Highlands along the southern border of the park there are 206 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: at significant risk during a wildfire event. When while wildfire 207 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: poses a threat, suppression techniques, especially with heavy equipment, are 208 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: the main concern and need to be avoided in these areas. 209 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: Do you understand what that says. 210 00:13:54,760 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: They're acknowledging that the Castell Lamar and Pacific high and 211 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: neighborhoods are at significant risk during a wildfire event and 212 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: other words, it might burn down, but when wildfire poses 213 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: a threat, suppression techniques, especially with heavy equipment, are the 214 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: main concern because they didn't want, let's say the milkveitch 215 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: plant to be bulldozed. So even when your neighborhoods in 216 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: fire danger, part of their policy is to be more 217 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: concerned with what the bulldozers are going to do to. 218 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: The milkvetch plant. That's what that says needs. 219 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: To be avoided, and page fifty six says avoidance areas 220 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: should be shared with incident command, but measures should be 221 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: taken to keep the information confidential. In other words, the 222 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: public in those neighborhoods should not know that when a 223 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: fire happens, if they have a choice between protecting the 224 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: neighborhoods and protecting the milk vetch plant, the milk vetch 225 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: plant wins, and those of you in the neighborhoods of 226 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: Castelllamuri and Pacific Highlands, you lose, and you Lost's actually 227 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: on page fifty six. So what happened was the plant. 228 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: Now I noticed walking around the Palisades a lot and 229 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: talking to people that over time people started saying, it's 230 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: like they let it burn. It's like that was the policy, 231 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: to let it burn. And I noticed it started cropping 232 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: up in articles and the La Times would scold and 233 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: wag it's finger. It's like, well, these are unfounded, untrue 234 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: claims and suspicions. It's like, oh no, they're not. Actually 235 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: it's in black and white. I have the report in 236 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: front of me. I don't know how else to interpret 237 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: this when the neighborhoods are at significant risk during a wildfire, 238 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: but suppression techniques with heavy equipment are the main concern. 239 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: Let it burn. That was the state's plan. Like we'll 240 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: play with Karen Bass and Alex Michaelson. 241 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 5: Next, you're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI 242 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 243 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: Run every day from one until four o'clock. After four 244 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app. 245 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: That's where you can listen to what you missed. Two o'clock. 246 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: Roger Bailey, the attorney coming on. He represents thousands of 247 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: Pacific Palisades residents. We have spent the first half hour 248 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: of the show going through the revelations. It actually was 249 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: state policy, Gavin Newsom policy that to Pega State Park 250 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: should burn during a wildfire event. And that's where the 251 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: lockman turned Palisades Fire started on to Penga State Park, 252 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: to Beega State parkland. Official policy is to let it burn, 253 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: and so they did, and h seven thousand homes and 254 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: other buildings were destroyed. So I g you know, as 255 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: long as policy is followed, that's all that that's all 256 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: that matters. As long as procedure was in place, the 257 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: end result doesn't matter so much. And with this revelation, 258 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: did Karen Bass know this? Did Karen Bass know that, 259 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: in the words of this state plan that even if 260 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: there is serious wildfire danger to the costellin Marian Pacific 261 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: highland neighborhoods, we still don't want bulldozers destroying the vegetation 262 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: for fire suppression. 263 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: Did she know that? 264 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: Like I wonder when she went off on the plane, 265 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: she obviously didn't know or didn't care, that the winds 266 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: were going to blow very hard, that there was extreme 267 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: wind warning, extreme fire danger warning, that if fire because 268 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 2: that's a lot of state there's a lot of state 269 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: land up in the Santa Monica Mountains, and that if 270 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 2: a fire started there, the state doesn't want to put 271 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: out and they know it might endanger the local neighborhoods 272 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: in the Palisades. 273 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: But hey, you know, we got milk vetch plants we 274 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: got to care for. Did she know any of this? 275 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: Probably not. 276 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: She was on Elex Michaelson's new CNN show, It's very 277 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 2: good show. It's called The Story Is. It's not every 278 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: night nine to eleven here on the West Coast, and 279 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: he had Karen Bass on to talk about the rebuilding 280 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: process in the Palisades. 281 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: I haven't heard this yet. 282 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: What I do know is she called out Spencer Pratt, 283 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: the reality TV store, who we last week and he 284 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: has been the leading voice pointing out how insane this 285 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: entire situation has been for the last year. But she's 286 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: complaining that he's posting misinformation cause that Spencer Pratt and others. 287 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 6: The Palisades fire. The two biggest issues of the year 288 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 6: in LA have been the immigration and the Palisades Fire. 289 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 6: We're almost at the year mark now, and there's been 290 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 6: some progress when. 291 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: It comes to rebuilding. 292 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 6: You just made an announcement this week. 293 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 7: Yes, but let me just say that there has been 294 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 7: a lot of progress. Things have been moving fast. However, 295 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 7: people are still out of their houses, and so until 296 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 7: somebody is completely back at home in their community, it's 297 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 7: not helpful to hear how fast everything is going. 298 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: Now stop. 299 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: I was in the Palisades this morning. The progress is glacial. 300 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: I saw it with my own eyes. Again. I invite 301 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: her to come with me live on the air and 302 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: we can look the streets of Palisades and she can 303 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: point to me where all this progress is happening was on? 304 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 4: I mean, what about the fast tracking of rebuilding in 305 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: these these areas. 306 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're saying that's not that. That hasn't happened. 307 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: No, No, that hasn't happened. I see if she addresses 308 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: it in this clip. She put out a press release 309 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: that she referred to Alex and Alex's show, and this 310 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: press release was celebrating the first home that was given 311 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 2: a certificate of occupancy approval. What she didn't mention in 312 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: her press release is that home all the paperwork was 313 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: put through before the fire. 314 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: This was not a burned out building. It was not 315 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: burned out by the fire. Whatever work they did, I 316 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: don't know if it was a. 317 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 2: Renovation or rebuild, whatever it was, it was already on 318 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 2: the road before the fire. Then the fire of course delayed, 319 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: and now they were able to finish off whatever they 320 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: needed to. But the iss to press release is if 321 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: it was connected to the fire. Any ordinary person who's 322 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 2: not going to use a lawyerly lens to parse all 323 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: the language would assume from the coverage that, oh, wow, 324 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: look they built a house or right, No, no such thing. 325 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: Now, no burned houses have come back to life. 326 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 7: Continue now, having said that, we currently have over three 327 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 7: hundred and forty properties homes that are under construction. Now, 328 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 7: if you look at the fires that took place in 329 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 7: Hawaii two years ago, they have about the same number 330 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 7: of houses that are being constructed. 331 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: Not right there, there's sixty sixty eight hundred structures, six 332 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: eight hundred structures that were destroyed. She's talking about three 333 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: hundred forty six. So at that rate, it's going to 334 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: take twenty one years to rebuild. And by the way, 335 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 2: Hawaii LEHNA is one of the biggest disasters of all 336 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: time when it comes to reconstruction. For the same reason, 337 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: they have idiots in the bureaucracy, idiots in government that 338 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: have this convoluted system that prevents people from easily rebuilding 339 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: their burned out homes. She's making the same mistakes. Well, 340 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: you know, we're faster. We got three hundred and forty 341 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: six in one year, and it's taken them two years 342 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: for the same Both numbers are abysmal. 343 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: Both numbers are horrible. Play some more. 344 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 7: That means that we are a year to two years 345 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 7: ahead of what happened over in Hawaii. We have over 346 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 7: two thousand. We've issued over eleven hundred permits for about 347 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 7: six hundred properties. What has been challenging, though, has been 348 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 7: individuals on social media and not who deliberately put out 349 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 7: misinformation that, in my opinion, just continues to traumatize people 350 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 7: in the Palisades by saying no permits have been issued, 351 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 7: things are going slow and not acknowledging what actually has happened. 352 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: Whoa hold on my included in this They are going slow. 353 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: I see it with my own eyes. Why don't we 354 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: go walk around together. You show me the rapid pace 355 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: of reconstruction. I want to see that. I'm not seeing it. 356 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 2: The people I know, a lot of people got burned 357 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: out in the Palisades. My kids went to school with 358 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 2: a lot of Palisades residents. We walk in the Palisades 359 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 2: three times a week, and we run across people on 360 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: that path all the time, and they tell their stories. 361 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: My wife practically interviews them for twenty minutes because and 362 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: none of what she says matches up with everything that 363 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 2: I've heard from people I know and people have met, 364 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 2: and for what I've seen, none of it. 365 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: So I'd like to see what she's seen. 366 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: I got to put on those super X ray augmented 367 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: reality glasses that she's wearing play some more. 368 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 7: The announcement we put out is the first home that 369 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 7: the one of the companies built is actually finished and 370 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 7: was given its certificate of occupancy. And so, Thomas James Holmes, 371 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 7: this was a home that was burnt down. There was 372 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 7: not a family that lived there, it was owned by 373 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 7: the company, but now a family can move in there. 374 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 6: And so I think what you're referring to is Spencer 375 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 6: Pratt criticized not just spend time the timing of this, 376 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 6: saying that this was kind of misleading because that permit 377 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 6: was already issued before the fire. 378 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 7: Act. No, yeah, yeah, well that's actually not accurate. But 379 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 7: Spencer Pratt is deliberately not accurate. But I was not 380 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 7: just referring to him. There are several people who deliberately 381 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 7: put out in this information and to me, that just 382 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 7: continues to traumatize a population that is already dramatized. 383 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 6: Right now, you're saying it's inaccurate that the permit and 384 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 6: the plans for this rebuild were before the fire happened. 385 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 7: Yes, I think the way it worked was there was 386 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 7: a permit that was submitted, nothing happened on that and 387 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 7: they resubmitted a permit in April. The April permit is 388 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 7: the permit that happened after the fire, obviously, and the 389 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 7: property that exists that was on that plot of land 390 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 7: was destroyed in the fire. 391 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 6: And the idea of rebuilding that property was something that 392 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 6: was put into place before the fire happened. 393 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: And that's where some of the confusion was. 394 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: Karen, let's go, let's have a date. We can do 395 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: it all week. Want to come, Deborn, I would love to. 396 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a whole committee and Karen could 397 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 2: show me the amazing progress going on. Why doesn't she 398 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: say specifically what the progress is. Why does she say 399 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: specifically who's putting out the misinformation? 400 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: We got more. 401 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 402 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 5: six forty. 403 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: We're you know, Roger Bailey on he's the attorney representing 404 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: many thousands of Palisades Palisades residents. He got the official 405 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: state plan that the Parks Department has for Topanga State Park, 406 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: and that's where the fire actually started, just a little 407 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: bit north of the Palisades, and it looks like their policy. 408 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: I could see it in black and White is to 409 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: let fires burn at Tobanga State Park and not to 410 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: put them out, and not to allow any heavy equipment 411 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: to bulldozers to carve out fire lines to prevent spread. 412 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: They think protecting local vegetation like the Milkviitch is more important. 413 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: It's real. It's a bombshell. Now. 414 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: We just played you a clip from Karen Bass talking 415 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 2: to Alex Michaelson on CNN. And not to be labor this, 416 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: but I just want to tell you how she lies 417 00:26:54,440 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 2: and misleads and massages the truth. There is one house 418 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 2: that's been rebuilt in all the Palisades, and Karen Bass 419 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: issued a press release doing a big victory dance over it. 420 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: And the Daily Caller has a good timeline of this, 421 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: so you can understand how she turned this into propagandam 422 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: Hailey Gomez is the West Coast reporter for the Dailycaller 423 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: dot com. Dailycoller dot com, and she writes that The 424 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Times was ripped online after publishing a story 425 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: saying one home had been rebuilt in the Palisades. Records 426 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: show the permit was submitted two months before The Fire 427 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: Times ran the piece Saturday under the headline the First 428 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: home has been rebuilt in the wake of the Palisades fire, 429 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: the showcase home by developer Thomas James Holmes. So this 430 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: wasn't a resident, it was a showcase. It got the 431 00:27:54,920 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 2: certificate of occupancy. Among those who went online blasting it 432 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 2: was a former Coalitions director US House Communications director Phil Hardy, 433 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: saying it's not even true. 434 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: It's an absolute disgrace. 435 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: Spencer Pratt wrote, plans were submitted in November eighth, twenty 436 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: twenty four, not a fire rebuild, just a developer spec. 437 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 2: Another one was the founder of Oculus, Palmer Lucky, who 438 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: called the piece pure propaganda. This La Times writer, according 439 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 2: to an author Andy Bono, is an example of writing 440 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: to manipulate rather than to inform. This is this featured 441 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: home was permitted before the fires, and it said that, 442 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: and it said what happened is that they did suffer 443 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: from the fire, but it actually saved the developer demolition 444 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: time because they were going to tear down the home. 445 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: They got a permit, they were going to tear down 446 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: the home. 447 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: The fire happened and burned the property, but it didn't 448 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: burn an existing home. This wasn't an existing home that 449 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: was then rebuilt. It was a teardown which instead of 450 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: bulldozing it, the fire took care of business. So for 451 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: Karen Bass or the Alley Times to take credit, look 452 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: at what's happened here, it's just nonsense in propaganda. Finally, 453 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: in the last paragraph in Dailycoller dot com, it said 454 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: that that Bass's department there is permit fees that can 455 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: run as high as seventy thousand dollars. Seventy thousand dollars 456 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: and that's a that they get that number from the 457 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: West Side current. So I you know, I'm at a loss. 458 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: You know, she's gonna say whatever she's going to say. 459 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: She wants to get reelected. There's plenty of feeble minded 460 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: people that are going to believe anything she says because 461 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: she represents the right religion, and that's what it is. 462 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: At this point of religion, they have no people don't 463 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: have no interest in competence anymore, no interest in somebody 464 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: who can make basic decisions like funding a fire department, 465 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: or funding a police department, or I don't know, listening 466 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: to a weather report or not going to Africa when 467 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: a bad windstorm is coming with high fire danger. I 468 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: guess there's going to be thousands that vote. 469 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: For her anyway. It's the limits of human nature, all right. 470 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: Roger Bailey, the Palisades Attorney's next on the fire, Debra 471 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: Mark Wive and the CAFI twenty four our newsroom k. 472 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 5: If I Thanksgiving survival tip plan ahead, keep a Flaska 473 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 5: bourbon in the tank above the just in case you 474 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 5: need some me time, and maybe one out in the 475 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 5: bushes in the backyard. 476 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 477 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 478 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 479 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.