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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone. This is View from the Raptors. It is

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Speaker 1: my absolute pleasure to welcome in one of the pillars

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Speaker 1: our podcast. You haven't told him he had just come

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Speaker 1: to coach Always Gonna be Green Baby. Welcome to View

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Speaker 1: from the Raptors Behind the Scenes with the Boston Celtics,

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Speaker 1: presented by card Lets. Here are your host, Mark Demiko

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Speaker 1: and Abby chin all Right, welcome into the latest podcast episode,

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Speaker 1: View from the Raptors Behind the Scenes with the Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mark Amiko with my co host Abbey chin Uh

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Speaker 1: and we are so excited for this episode. Today we

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Speaker 1: been referred to as the o G. He's been referred

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Speaker 1: to as Mr. Reliable, and he's been referred to as

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Speaker 1: Al Horford, but Abby, we oh we are. But he's

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Speaker 1: been built up for his entire fifteen year career at

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Speaker 1: significant impact on UM during their young careers. Abby, what

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Speaker 1: And it was so interesting to me to hear Rob

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Speaker 1: we cannot underscore how important that has been to Rob's

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Speaker 1: And also to hear Grant who wasn't here, who didn't

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Speaker 1: all about how you rebounding. We bounced back tonight. Take

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Speaker 1: me through that final play. I saw you talking to

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Speaker 1: Marcus right before the endbound good job did the screen

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Speaker 1: for Avery? Every knock that down. It's a huge shot.

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Speaker 1: And before that, you want to hit a big one.

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Speaker 1: Guys stepped up? How much confidence does this give you?

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Speaker 1: Guys going in the game four? It's big. You know

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Speaker 1: we already had, we already have confidence and uh, you

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Speaker 1: know it's just nice. So good a win. Congratulations, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: There you go. You learn it from the O G

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back everyone. Make sure you rate, subscribe, download,

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Speaker 1: pleasure to welcome in a first time guest. Al Horford. Al,

451
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: this this podcast did not exist the last time you

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Speaker 1: were in Boston. So I guess, first and foremost thank

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Speaker 1: you for coming on to pleasure to have you here.

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Speaker 1: And secondly, just what's it been like to be back

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Speaker 1: in Boston. I know you made it very clear to

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Speaker 1: the public that you were happy to be back. Um,

457
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Speaker 1: you weren't exactly happy to be gone. But now that

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Speaker 1: you are back, what's it been like over these first

459
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Speaker 1: few months back playing for this organization? Yeah, so, um,

460
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: just being back here just feels good, you know, to me,

461
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: it just feels right. Um, you know, I'm I'm comfortable,

462
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: happy to be here. Um. You know, obviously as a

463
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Speaker 1: as a team, you know, we've kind of had our

464
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Speaker 1: ups and downs this year. It's uh, it hasn't been

465
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Speaker 1: easy finding you know, that consistency that we want from

466
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Speaker 1: our group and finding kind of that identity of who

467
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Speaker 1: we want to be. So um, I believe more recently

468
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Speaker 1: we've been playing a little better. Um and I'm in

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Speaker 1: you know, I want to see how these next ten

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Speaker 1: games go. But I do believe that we have an

471
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Speaker 1: opportunity here. So um Uh. You know, basketball wise, it's

472
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: been up and down. But um, but just being here,

473
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just happy to be here. Yeah. I

474
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Speaker 1: want to elaborate that on a little bit, just because

475
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Speaker 1: obviously you spent a couple of years away, you went

476
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Speaker 1: to a couple of different organizations, and you spoke really

477
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Speaker 1: highly of your time in Oklahoma City. But coming back

478
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Speaker 1: here to this building with a lot of the same staff,

479
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Speaker 1: obviously a new coaching staff, but some of the same

480
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Speaker 1: people behind the scenes. What what is it? What is

481
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Speaker 1: different about being here in Boston and playing for this

482
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Speaker 1: organization as compared to maybe some of the other places

483
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Speaker 1: that you've gone around the league. Yeah, I mean the

484
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Speaker 1: biggest reason is kind of what attracted me here in

485
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Speaker 1: the first place was the you know, when I came

486
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Speaker 1: the first time, It's just the the culture and the

487
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Speaker 1: tradition here in Boston and what the Celtics mean to

488
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Speaker 1: the city. That's important. And they talk about it all

489
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Speaker 1: the time. I mean you you probably here it on

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Speaker 1: social media. Yeah yeah, I mean it's I'm honestly, I'm

491
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Speaker 1: never reactive you know, on social But the one thing

492
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Speaker 1: I can tell you is that even on the street,

493
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Speaker 1: I'm out, you know, you just feel it and you

494
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Speaker 1: know that it's it's different up here. You know, it's different.

495
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Speaker 1: It means something. And uh, as you get older and

496
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Speaker 1: as you start understanding, you know, you talk about legacy

497
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: and things that you want to do and things like that.

498
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Speaker 1: You want to be in a place where it's meaningful.

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Speaker 1: You know, where you can bring you know, Joe, you

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Speaker 1: can bring happiness to to a certain part. And I

501
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: find that that here that you know, people care and

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Speaker 1: you know if you know, if you're not doing well,

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Speaker 1: they'll let you know and and and that's okay, you know,

504
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: and if you are doing well, you know, everybody's rallying

505
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Speaker 1: behind you and everything. So, um, it's just a special city.

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Speaker 1: It's a special place. And that's what I like about it.

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Speaker 1: I like the fact that you know, there's a real

508
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Speaker 1: care and and and it's it's almost like a way

509
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Speaker 1: of life out here, you know, like and not not

510
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: only in basketball, and you know, you know it another

511
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Speaker 1: sports stupid you can relate with the Celtics. That's that's

512
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Speaker 1: read our backs favorite quote, right, Playing for the Celtics

513
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: isn't about basketball, It's a way of life. The passion

514
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Speaker 1: is a constant. A lot has changed though since the

515
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Speaker 1: last time you were here. I mean Mark mentioned it

516
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Speaker 1: from the coaching stuff, But how have you changed out

517
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: since you left? Yeah? So um uh you know really um,

518
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Speaker 1: you know, really grateful you know for you know, just

519
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: obviously being here again, having an opportunity, um too with

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Speaker 1: this team, see what we can do, see what we

521
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: can be, um and and and just kind of build

522
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: and go from there. But um also just looking at

523
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: just the landscape of the NBA. How you know how

524
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: much the game is changing, because even now it's continuing

525
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: to change. And um, you know, obviously this time around,

526
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Speaker 1: for me, it's almost different the way that I'm playing now,

527
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: the way that the way that we're doing things, as

528
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: to spend more time at the form that's the team, Yeah,

529
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: being at the four, being in different positions, that I

530
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: haven't really been before and and um, and it's it's

531
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Speaker 1: it's something that that it's a it's a nice challenge

532
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: for me, and it's something that I'm really you know

533
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: taking it in stride. Um. But uh, but more than anything,

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00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm just really you know, just really grateful to have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity because I feel like, you know, once you know,

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00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: we're you know, if we continue to do things the

537
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: right way. You know, guys are you know, we're training,

538
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: we're preparing, We're feel like I feel like everything is

539
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: we're doing everything the right way. I feel like things

540
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: will turn, you know for our group we're doing focusing

541
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: on you as a leader as well. What are some

542
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: of the lessons you learned from the first time you

543
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: were here that you brought into this experience and that

544
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Speaker 1: you're doing differently. Yeah, so, um, you know, uh, when

545
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: I came in, you know, with the first time, it

546
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: was probably more um uh, probably trying to get a

547
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: feel of everything, you know, observing, trying to learn things

548
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: like that when I get to come back. Now, Um,

549
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: I know what to expect, I know how you know

550
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: how our fan bases. I know you know how to talk. Yeah,

551
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: I know, right, but like you know, just talk to

552
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys in the locker room. Um,

553
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: we have a lot of you know, the main guys here,

554
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: so like I have that report with them already and

555
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: and um, but those guys are also in a different

556
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: position because you know, now they're their view different, they

557
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: have more responsibilities, different things like that. So for me,

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00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: it's just having that balance of um, you know, be

559
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Speaker 1: more vocal with them, but also not getting to the

560
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 1: point that, uh, you know they're almost shutting me out right,

561
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: Like there's that always that balance as a leader, you

562
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: always you know, at least for me, like I always

563
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: like to listen you know a lot more and and

564
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: and try to and put my advice wherever I see

565
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: kind of fit. So but this time around, like before,

566
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: you kind of have to get to know a person

567
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: and you know, before you can actually talk to them

568
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: and say things. I know a lot of these guys now,

569
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Speaker 1: like if I have to say something to them, I

570
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: can just go straight up talk to him, tell him

571
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Speaker 1: how it is, move on, and you know those types

572
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: of things. So U that that's I think that's been

573
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: the biggest difference. And we just had Rob and grant

574
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: on on the episode to talk about your leadership style

575
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: and how vocal you have been the season, and Rob

576
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 1: confirmed that you are more vocal now than you were

577
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: maybe that first time around. I'm curious, from your perspective,

578
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: how much more vocal are you and and if that's

579
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Speaker 1: the case, why, why why now, at this time of

580
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Speaker 1: your career back here in Boston, are you kind of

581
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: speaking up a little bit more than maybe it did

582
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Speaker 1: when you were leading purely by example, maybe with a

583
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: little bit of vocal side Um during that first stint, Um, Yeah,

584
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean I think, uh, you know, it was a

585
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: different team. Uh, you know, we had different type of pieces,

586
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: we had, um, you know, more veterans. Uh. It was

587
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: just different. Now I feel like, you know, with with

588
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Speaker 1: the group that we have and with a guy like Rob, Um,

589
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, he's coming up so fast, like there's so

590
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: much that he can learn and um, and he's doing

591
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: a great job. And obviously the coaches are you know,

592
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: on him and talking with him and stuff. But I'm

593
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: also there to not overwhelm him, but to kind of

594
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Speaker 1: have his back, to kind of pick my spots to

595
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: talk to him and and to some of the other

596
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: guys as well. But like Now it's easier for me,

597
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Speaker 1: like I said, because I have kind of some history

598
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Speaker 1: with them and just my experience in general. You know,

599
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Speaker 1: I'm at the point that I'm there playing with the

600
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Speaker 1: guys were I'm feeling the game with them, We're doing

601
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: things together, so we you know, there's like that sense

602
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: of you know, I can relate because I know what's

603
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Speaker 1: going on and um and I'm just being more outspoken

604
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: about it than you know, in the past, I probably

605
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: would have, um, you know, not not said some things

606
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: and just kind of just kind of let things go. Yeah, Rob,

607
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: it's interesting to talk to him. I'm sure Abby feels

608
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: the same way about spending time with you, because we

609
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: all know how rocky his career got off to a

610
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: rocky start. You know. He he missed the press conference,

611
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: he missed the flight, missed the first practice. But he

612
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: talked about when he first got here, seeing the way

613
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 1: that you went about your day to day really impacted him.

614
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: He's he didn't necessarily remember like sitting down with you

615
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: and picking your brain about it, but he more said

616
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: that he kind of just sat back and observed and

617
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: watched the way that you're meticulous with what you do

618
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: every single day in your routine. Um, what do you

619
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: try to rub off on to young guys when you're

620
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: around them in terms of taking care of your body,

621
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Speaker 1: doing what you need to do off the court to

622
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Speaker 1: be ready to do what you need to do on

623
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Speaker 1: the court, and those types of lessons that you've learned

624
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: throughout your career. Yeah, it's it's about being professional. I

625
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing. It's about, you know, learning how

626
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: to be professional, um, and showing the guys that you know,

627
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: we're fortunate enough to play basketball. But with that comes

628
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: responsibility and comes away to doing things the right way

629
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Speaker 1: and UM. And the one thing I've been impressed with

630
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Speaker 1: this year is with Rob's commitment to doing things the

631
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: right way and being very professional and UM. And it's

632
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, the treatment, the lifting, that taking care of

633
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: his body, UM, just the extra work on the court,

634
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: like he has it all put together and you can

635
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: see it because it's translated very well. Also, he what

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00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: I've seen from him from the beginning of the season

637
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: until now, it's just his ability to continue to learn

638
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: and make adjustments and show them on the fly. And

639
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: then that's just very impressive because a lot of guys,

640
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, it may take a while, it may not click,

641
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: and he has the ability. He's so smart. He just

642
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: has the ability to just pick things up and really

643
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: really start making progress. So that's what's really blowing my

644
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: mind with Rob and from, like you said, from his

645
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: rookie year. So now it's a huge difference. He's much

646
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: more mature. He gets it. He's there to pick his

647
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: teammates up. He's there to have the guys back, just

648
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: like he's like the perfect team. He's like a kind

649
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: of teammate you want to have. He's that that you know,

650
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: he's that great of a teammate. It's been fun to

651
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: watch the leap that Grant has made also this season

652
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: has been pretty incredible. He mentioned he met you when

653
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: he was eight years old, when you were a rookie

654
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: with the Hawks. Do you remember that at all? I don't.

655
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 1: I don't remember he remember Grant? So he yeah, I mean,

656
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: while mean, we had so many people, you know, come

657
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: in and stuff like that, but I do. Uh. He recalled,

658
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: like he kind of laid the whole picture out for me,

659
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: and then I was like, Okay, I mean maybe, but

660
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: but I really yeah, but but I really didn't remember.

661
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, the impressive thing about Grant is that he, um,

662
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: he really put in the time this summer and you

663
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: can see it in this game. He's really put in

664
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: the time to work on himself, on his shooting. Uh,

665
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: just doing what what he can do best for a group,

666
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: you know, not trying to do too much, not trying

667
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: to do other stuff, being solid, and his shooting you know,

668
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: has improved dramatically. And it's because I really feel like

669
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: he's put in the time and you know, now he's

670
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: seen the benefits. Now he's playing consistently, he's getting those

671
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, those minutes and uh so it's been also

672
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, impressive to see, you know, his growth and

673
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: in such a short period of time. A few tricks

674
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: of the trade just from watching wouldn't give us what

675
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: they were, But how long did it take you to

676
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: develop those and to figure out the like when to

677
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: cut in the when to cut in a game and

678
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: in a play, and when to pop what you see

679
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: out there on the court. Yeah, so um, uh, you know,

680
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's weird because with basketball, like

681
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, there's plays that they call and there's certain

682
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: places that you need to be and things like that,

683
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: but there's also the times where you just kind of

684
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: it somethings like kind of like feel the game, feel

685
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: the game, just move, try to figure out trying to

686
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: find a place and and but also I think the

687
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: coaches do a good job, you know, showing us film

688
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: and and and showing us examples of you know, when

689
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: we can cut from the weak side and try to

690
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: get a layup, when to circle around, or when to

691
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: give somebody an outlet for a shot and things like that. So, um,

692
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, taking notes from that and and translating into

693
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: the game, and once you're in the game and you're

694
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: seeing it, you're that position again, you're like, oh, you know,

695
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: I know what to do. So it's it's about studying

696
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: the game as well. You have to be able to

697
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: study the game and look at it and make adjustments.

698
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: Both of these guys when they sat here and talked

699
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: with us, they they both said, for you and your

700
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: leadership style and like your influence on young guys, it's

701
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily about what you say, because you're saying more

702
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: this year, but you didn't used to say a lot.

703
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: But it's more about what you do. And that kind

704
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: of goes back to what Rob was talking about that

705
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: first day that he saw you going through your routine.

706
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Um, Like, how did that

707
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: first develop in your basketball career? Was that in high

708
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: school or before that or in college? Like when did

709
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: you get into that? Um, you know, not necessarily what

710
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: you say, but what you do type of lifestyle and leadership. Yeah, so, UM,

711
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: I think definitely was in college. Um. You know, I

712
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: was you know, fortunate to have you know, Billy Donovan,

713
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: it's a head coach. And then um, uh, the the

714
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: guys that I came in to Florida's it's been you know,

715
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit, but you know, Joe Kim, Noah, Corey, Brewer,

716
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: Torre and Green. Um, those guys really challenged me. Um

717
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: as far as being committed to being disciplined, doing the

718
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: right things. And on top of coach Donovan, you know,

719
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: being the way that he was. And I felt like

720
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: that's when it started for me and um and when

721
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: I got to the n B A UM, you know,

722
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: I was able to see, um, you know, some some

723
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: players doing things a certain way right away. And UM,

724
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: it's almost one of those things like when you're when

725
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: you're a kid and your parents tell you like, hey,

726
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: you know, copy the good things and you know the

727
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: bad things kind of tossed to the side type thing.

728
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: And like I did that, Like you know, I came

729
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: to the n b A and I was like, Oh,

730
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: Joe Johnson, Like, oh, that guy is working really hard,

731
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: like you know, like he's doing this eating, he's taking

732
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: care of himself the right way, he's lifting, he's doing

733
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Maybe another guy maybe you know from

734
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: an gonna do that, you know what I'm saying, like

735
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So like really trying to put myself

736
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: in the best position to be successful. But I was

737
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: really lucky to have you know, Joe Johnson has a

738
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: bad Mike Baby helped me a lot on the court.

739
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: Later on, Kyle Korver came in and for me was

740
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: a big influence, you know because you know at the

741
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: time I when he came into the team setting, I

742
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: recently just got married and he was just married as well,

743
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: So like, you know, he was like somebody that I

744
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: saw as a family man and how he carried himself

745
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: and how he went about things. So um, so I

746
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: was very lucky to have you know, really good influence

747
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: around me. Good the good leaders that probably didn't didn't

748
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: talk a lot or said stuff, but just led by example,

749
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: you know. And I think to your point is, like,

750
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: you know, guys see the work. I see that. You know,

751
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: you're not doing stuff just when the cameras are on

752
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: or when the coaches are around, Like you know, there's

753
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: a routine. You're doing things with a purpose and and

754
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: you're trying to do the best you know to help

755
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: your team. What's the correlation. I'm just really curious about this, Like,

756
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: what's what's the correlation that you've seen during your time

757
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: in the league of the people who did what you

758
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: did as a youngster and kind of taking all that

759
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: information in like robbed it with you and really using it. Um,

760
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: what's the correlation of that to success versus maybe some

761
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: of the guys that you might have seen that came

762
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: into the league and didn't soak all that information in

763
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: and adapted to to their lifestyles. Yeah, I mean, I

764
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: think it's a big difference, honestly, I mean I think

765
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a difference between whether you're gonna make

766
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: it or not, because, uh, you know, there's very few

767
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, Jason Tatums, there's very few guys that could

768
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: they just have the ability that you know that they're

769
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: probably gonna be here regardless. But Jason is another guy

770
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: that I saw come in and you know, he was learning.

771
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: He was watching very disciplined, carried himself, taking care of

772
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: his body, doing the things they needed to do. And

773
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: you've been able to see the progress and their results,

774
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, from a guy like him. But you know, unfortunately,

775
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other guys that you know, think

776
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: that they make it, and they don't quite understand how

777
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: to navigate and take care of themselves and do all

778
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: those little things and be professionals, because at the end

779
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: of the day, it's like just being you know, doing

780
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: doing your job, being professional, But it takes more than

781
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: just plane, you know, when when it's when the lights

782
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: come on, like, there's a whole lot of things that

783
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: you have to do beforehand. So I noticed that the

784
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: guys that are able to figure it out do that,

785
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: and then some of the guys that don't quite make it.

786
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: Years later I talked to them and it's kind of like, yeah,

787
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: I wish I would have. I wish I could have.

788
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: But you know, in the NBA, the window is it's

789
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: very short, and if you don't you're not able to

790
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: do it. You know, you have that next wave coming

791
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: coming through out. A bunch of those vets that you

792
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: mentioned aren't necessarily guys I would consider quiet Joakim Noah

793
00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: very boiceterous and outspoken. How have you grow own as

794
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: a vocal leader? Like realizing what has that growth process

795
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: been like for you? Realizing when you can't speak up

796
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: when you need to speak up, because it's it's not

797
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: something that necessarily comes natural to you, right, yeah, no,

798
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: it's It's true. It doesn't come natural to me. Um.

799
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: Last year when I was saying okay see coach dagnell

800
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: Um in exit meetings, one of the things that he

801
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: said to me was like, hey, just to let you know,

802
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: one of the things that I, you know, that I

803
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: recommend for you is to you know, to to speak

804
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: up because you you know, you're you're a veteran people

805
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: you know understand that you want to win, that you

806
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: want to play the right way, and you get a

807
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: lot of respect. You may not feel like you want

808
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: to say things a lot of the times, but he

809
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: just get gave me some advice about making sure that

810
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: I was more vocal, that I spoke up, And that

811
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: was last year. I was my fourteenth years. So I mean,

812
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: and that the first time you ever had a coach

813
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: say that to you, um, like in an exit meeting setting. No,

814
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I you know when when with

815
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: with Brad with coach with with Brad was here, like

816
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: we we would talk about stuff like that and and

817
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: I did it some bit. Um. I guess his point.

818
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: He was telling me that I could do it so

819
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: much more. You know that that was the difference because

820
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,959
Speaker 1: I I've had you know, Brad and I talked about

821
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: it in the past, and um, and I tried to

822
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: be like that. You know, there's times that you know,

823
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: for me, it's like, I know, there's so much going

824
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: on in the game, and a lot of the times,

825
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: like you, the way that I see it is you

826
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: really have to be able to pick your spots. Like

827
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: there's guys that I guess can constantly be talking and

828
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: it's fine, but I feel like when you're constantly talking

829
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: to somebody, it's kind of like it can be almost

830
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: draining at It's like, man, you know, do your job

831
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: and if I really really see something, then you know,

832
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, call you out. And it's about

833
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: how you call the person out because people may think like, oh,

834
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: he doesn't say much maybe to the group, but individually

835
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: I will pull guys aside and I will talk to guys.

836
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: You know, there's you have to know who you you're

837
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: dealing with. Like there's certain guys that you can talk

838
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: to in front of a group and they can take

839
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: the message be okay. Some guys don't respond that that

840
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: well to that. So it's just kind of knowing that balance.

841
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: How do you describe the dynamic when it comes to

842
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: the role of a leader in an NBA locker room?

843
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: Because I feel like it is something that there is

844
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: a hierarchy to it, and it's also a dynamic where

845
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: it kind of changes and ebbs and flows and how

846
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: do you find your role within that larger group and picture.

847
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: So I believe that there's the more leaders that you

848
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: have in your locker room, the more successful you're going

849
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: to be as a team. Um, I don't I don't

850
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: believe in the in the one leader and the one

851
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: person that that's everybody's gonna follow along and there has

852
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: to be the example. I believe if you have multiple guys,

853
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: they can go out and be professional, do what they

854
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: need to do. And hold each other accountable. When you

855
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: have that and you have the more you have of those,

856
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: the more special I believe you can be um as

857
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: a group. So you know, when I look at at

858
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: an NBA locker room, that's kind of what I see.

859
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: You know, the more leaders that you have, the better

860
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: that your team is going to be because you have

861
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: more people that can hold each other accountable and more

862
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: people are going to be professional and I'm gonna do

863
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: things the right way. You said a minute ago about

864
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: knowing which guys you can kind of talk to in

865
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: public and in front of the whole team versus which

866
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: guys you need to kind of pull aside and talk

867
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: to individually and address them in a certain way. When

868
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: I hear you say that, it sounds like a coach.

869
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: What do you think about the future is coaching in

870
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: Is that something that you would be interested in, because

871
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean literally, as you're talking, I'm like, that sounds

872
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: to me like a coach and the way that he

873
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: knows how to address certain people in certain ways, and

874
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: that's important for coaching staff to know. Coaching is stuff.

875
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you guys are better around you know,

876
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: coaches and stuff. But the grind is real. Um. Uh

877
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm I'm a family man, you know,

878
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: and you know, and there is a big time commingment

879
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: to it, you know. Uh, it's something that I mean,

880
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, haven't really considered it. Um to be honest, Um,

881
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'd have to to wait and see. I

882
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: don't you know, I want to be with my family,

883
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean, I've you know, it's traveling.

884
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: It's hard, especially your kids start getting older, like all

885
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: this stuff, and you know, we neble to spend more

886
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: time with my wife and things like that. So, um,

887
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: it's not in my cards, I would say, but I

888
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying. Um, uh, you never know. But

889
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's you know, Uh, it's it's hard coaches,

890
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: It's a lot that goes with it, you know, the

891
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: players and you know, the expectations and the media and

892
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: like all this stuff and all the travel and every

893
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: worst part multiple times every day. I know we're supposed

894
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: to be wrapping up. But do you think, and there

895
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: is so much talk in the buzzword of being a

896
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: leader and leadership, do you think that the we, the

897
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: media but also I mean outside, make too much of

898
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: that conversation, um of the leadership. I mean, I mean,

899
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: I guess I could understand, you know, I guess uh,

900
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: I honestly don't read. I'm probably the wrong guy to

901
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: ask some of this stuff because I just don't. Um,

902
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, we don't get into I just don't like,

903
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: I just don't. But what all I can say is

904
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: the answer that I gave you. It's like, the more

905
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: leaders that you have in your locker room, I feel

906
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: like that, you know, the better chance and the more

907
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: successful you're gonna be. And you don't have to be

908
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: the talking type like to be a leader, right, Like

909
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: you can you know, lead by example, and you can

910
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: do your job and you can do things the right

911
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: way and do things for the team. That's being a leader,

912
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: like you know, Um, there's different types of them, and

913
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: and you know, as long as you care for the

914
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: team and you're trying to do things the right way,

915
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: that's that's all you can ask for. Before we let

916
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: you go, I just want to ask you at this

917
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: stage of your career and hearing what we've told you

918
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: that Rob and Grant talked about and the impact that

919
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: you've made on them, the influence that you've had on them.

920
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: Same thing with a lot of the guys in ok

921
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: Sy have said that this season about oh Man. When

922
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: Al was around last year, he changed the way I

923
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: think about things and do things. When you hear that

924
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: from young guys who are starting to make and find

925
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: their niche within the league, like Robin Grant, how does

926
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: that make you feel that you played a role in

927
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: helping them to get to where they're going and where

928
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: they are well? And obviously it makes me feel good. Um,

929
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: you know, I just feel like, uh, it's a part

930
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: of game. Um. You know, this is the NBA is

931
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: a brotherhood. It's a big, big brotherhood and um, and

932
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: you know just how guys kind of paved the way

933
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: for me. You know, I hope that I'm able to

934
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: help other guys in any way that I can to

935
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: help them, and and they know that they have a responsibility,

936
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, as they continue to grow in the league,

937
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: when younger guys come in and be a good example

938
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: and and try to help them as well. Um, and

939
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: you know it's it's, uh, it's a lot going on

940
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: in the n b A. You know, you're trying to

941
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: figure things out, You're growing up as a man. Things

942
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: like that so, UM, I just think that if you know,

943
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: whether it's talking to them, leading by example, whatever, it

944
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: is just doing your part to help you know the

945
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: next the next group of guys. I wanted to tell

946
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: you that Rob Williams over the summer, I had asked

947
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: him a question but also mentioned just the rave review

948
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: that you had given him, and the look of pride

949
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: on his face was so obvious, and it was really

950
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: cool to see that clearly how much respect he had

951
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: for you and how much that meant to him to

952
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: hear you talk about him like that. And so I

953
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: think it's um, certainly your message is being heard. Yeah,

954
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: and that's why they call you Mr Reliable. These are

955
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: three nicknames that came out Mr Reliable, the O G

956
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: and then the Godfather that's stuck around since Billy Donovan

957
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: gave it to you. What's your reaction to those? It's funny, man,

958
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: it's funny. I mean all three are really funny. UM

959
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: apply applicable, I think so. I think you could say

960
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: that I think all three are. How did the Godfather

961
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: one come about? Because we don't do you actually have

962
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: like an angry streak somewhere when se needs to be

963
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: taken care of I can. I can, no question about it.

964
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: I can. I mean that this it's you know, you know,

965
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of passion in basketball and things like

966
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: a lot of the times I try to, you know,

967
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: stay level headed as much as I can, but there's

968
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: no question about it. But I think that with Donovan.

969
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: I think when when he told me, at least when

970
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: coach Donovan told me about it, was like he just, um,

971
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, just talked about uh, you know. He said

972
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: something like about like you know, when I would talk,

973
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: like everybody would listen, you know type thing, And I

974
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: think that's kind of what he was referring to. And

975
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: I probably in college again, I didn't talk much, but

976
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, when something needed to be addressed, something you

977
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: need to be said. I feel like guys knew that

978
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: I had the best the team's best interest at heart.

979
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: And you feel that when you're you know, when you're

980
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: out there, you know, at the end of the day,

981
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 1: like who are the guys, Like what do you care about?

982
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: And my old my goal is always to win, Like

983
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: that's what I care about. Well, you said that you

984
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: can feel it, well, you're out on the court. There's

985
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: no question we can feel it when we talked to

986
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: the other players about the impact that you've had on them.

987
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: So thanks for coming on the podcast you from the Raptors,

988
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: and and thank you for being the leader, um and

989
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: the influencer that you've been on on so many young

990
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: guys who've come through the league, including some of the

991
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: guys you're playing with this year. You're really putting them

992
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: on the right track. I appreciate you, guys, Thank you.

993
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