Speaker 1: Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to
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Speaker 1: in studio with the mad Backer defensive coordinator part Scott.
Speaker 1: Monday night football jets in the desert trying to find
Speaker 1: some water in Arizona after a three game losing streak.
Speaker 1: What does it mean part for a player to play
Speaker 1: on Monday Night, Because it's a lot different than when
Speaker 1: we were growing up, when Monday night was the deal.
Speaker 1: You had to be home to be watching Monday night football.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man um, it's prime time. Whenever
Speaker 1: you get opportunity to be the only show in town,
Speaker 1: you know you you look forward to it as an
Speaker 1: opportunity for you to introduce yourself to the world, to
Speaker 1: the masses. Because now you don't have to worry about
Speaker 1: people in Dallas tune into the Dallas game. You have
Speaker 1: to worry about people in San Francisco playing to to
Speaker 1: the San Francisco game. Everybody's watching your game. You have
Speaker 1: everybody's fan base, and you have an opportunity can name
Speaker 1: for yourself. We always say you make your name in
Speaker 1: a regular season you make your fame in the postseason. Well,
Speaker 1: this is kind of a special day because you can
Speaker 1: make your name and your fame on Monday Night football,
Speaker 1: and you look forward to that. You look for an
Speaker 1: opportunity to say this is who I am, this is
Speaker 1: how I play, I'm coming watch me. I'm worth the
Speaker 1: price of admission Monday nights. When Bart Scott was in
Speaker 1: New York, Jet used to have the fellas over for
Speaker 1: a big party. You guys get together, you watch the game,
Speaker 1: and then you take care of the fellas afterwards. But
Speaker 1: it is the game that the pros still watch Monday
Speaker 1: night absolutely because you know, you're evaluating your peers. You're
Speaker 1: you're preparing yourself to your peers. So you know, that's
Speaker 1: why the game is so important, because it's not for
Speaker 1: You're not paying paying for the You're not playing for
Speaker 1: the fans, so to speak. You're playing to show your
Speaker 1: peers who you are. You know, most football players don't
Speaker 1: really care about being fan favorites. They want to be
Speaker 1: respected by their peers. So when football players talk nearly
Speaker 1: man that do bad, you won't respect for people. To
Speaker 1: understand the craft, to understand the business, understand the defense,
Speaker 1: understand the offense understand that what's trying to get done,
Speaker 1: so they can say you rather you rather a football
Speaker 1: player to say you're a batman than a fan say
Speaker 1: because he may or may not really understand what makes
Speaker 1: you a bad man, what makes you a great player,
Speaker 1: what makes you unique, what makes you special? And Monday
Speaker 1: night football, the lives are the brightest. It's the brightest baby,
Speaker 1: and that's what you want to show up. You are
Speaker 1: a national brand. You are on the NFL today, you
Speaker 1: are part of Merrill Lynches financial literacy. They don't take
Speaker 1: my money away, Morgan Stanley, Morgan Stanley, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Merrill Lynch, I think sponsors one of our shows. You know,
Speaker 1: all the sponsors run together. So Morgan Stanley, I'm not
Speaker 1: taking your money away. They just took a day's councel
Speaker 1: to check. So you are all over the place. Do
Speaker 1: you think your brand as a player was enhanced by
Speaker 1: what happened one day night football Baltimore Ravens, New England Patriots.
Speaker 1: The way you competed at all, So it was really
Speaker 1: the first time the nation saw your personality, correct, don't
Speaker 1: you think? Well, that's what the first time they got
Speaker 1: introduced to my crazy because everybody was watching. You know, Uh,
Speaker 1: what really put me on the scene, We put me
Speaker 1: on the scene. It first of my career was to
Speaker 1: hit on Ben Roethlisberger. But after that, right right, that
Speaker 1: was that was the dream shot. But what put me
Speaker 1: on the scene on the national level, I believe was
Speaker 1: me throwing the flag in the stands on Monday night football.
Speaker 1: They're like, who is this crazy nut? Just do as
Speaker 1: a psycho like, but he's interesting to watch, He's passionate. Um,
Speaker 1: and it came at a frustrating time in the game. Um,
Speaker 1: but I was trying to stand up for my guys
Speaker 1: because I felt like, you know, um, we were handed
Speaker 1: the short end the stake that you know, all odds
Speaker 1: were against us. And you know, I believe that the
Speaker 1: NFL wanted the Patriots to win. Uh strictly so you know,
Speaker 1: not because I believe that the NFL carris who wins
Speaker 1: the losers, but I think monetarily, you know, it was
Speaker 1: beneficial for them to for the Patriots to win because
Speaker 1: at that point, the Patriots we're approaching history, and um,
Speaker 1: it was money to be made if they could sell
Speaker 1: the game, and they did, they sold it to they
Speaker 1: It was syndicated. They you know, it was simulcast on
Speaker 1: NFL network, UM, CBS, NBC, ABC because everybody wanted to
Speaker 1: see if the team could go undefeated like the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 1: So the NFL one that way. But you know, it
Speaker 1: was just a series of events that really frustrated us,
Speaker 1: uh me and particularly but us as a team. You
Speaker 1: talk about, we're winning, first time our team is healthy
Speaker 1: all year. Uh we're not going to the playoffs, but
Speaker 1: first time that our unit is back. It was an
Speaker 1: important game for us to kind of show everybody who
Speaker 1: we were that, yeah, we may have underachieved, but we're injured,
Speaker 1: but we're back together. This is the look of things
Speaker 1: to come, you know the next year. And well, I
Speaker 1: was standing defensive performance. It's a team that was lightening
Speaker 1: off the scoreboard every week right right just when they
Speaker 1: had mass everybody and you know, we we put on
Speaker 1: the show. And it came down to the to the
Speaker 1: last drive and they gave him four four penalties on
Speaker 1: fourth down that continued their drive until finally they got
Speaker 1: um the touchdown that they needed and you know, and
Speaker 1: it just boiled over and you know, since then the
Speaker 1: next game, UM, the referee who was there got suspended
Speaker 1: for three games, which nobody talks about. I got fined
Speaker 1: twenty five grand, which at that time was a hell
Speaker 1: of a lot of money. Uh you know, equivalent to
Speaker 1: today that would have been a semi five thousand out
Speaker 1: of five. But it was funny because when they called me,
Speaker 1: uh the they said it was unpresident because they never
Speaker 1: seen anybody throw referees flag in the stand, so they
Speaker 1: had nothing to to really leverage against. But I had
Speaker 1: never really got in trouble on the field off the field,
Speaker 1: so they kept it at five. I think Warren sapped
Speaker 1: like slam Chester Taylor the next week and he got
Speaker 1: fired semi five thousand. So you know it was because
Speaker 1: I was a good outstanding citizen before that. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, how to pay more money, and
Speaker 1: Brian Bella had your back. Oh yeah, Brian big help
Speaker 1: me down, you know. UM asked what did he say
Speaker 1: to me, Um when when I threw the flag coming
Speaker 1: to the sideline, He said, you know what the exacuate.
Speaker 1: He told me that he wished he would have been
Speaker 1: close enough to the flags he would have threw that
Speaker 1: and stands two of the BS Eric Dockers on injury reserve.
Speaker 1: How would that impact the jetson? How does that impact
Speaker 1: uh the offense and moving forward? Well, moving forward, I
Speaker 1: think it's good to have clarity. It's good to understand
Speaker 1: what you're going to to to the game with. I
Speaker 1: think it really frees things up for a new while
Speaker 1: who I'm sure was always in limbo every week figuring
Speaker 1: out who he was going to play, what position he
Speaker 1: was playing. And also unless Safari and Jenkins be able
Speaker 1: to really move in and understand what his package is
Speaker 1: going to be, UM, I think maybe they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to maybe go with some two lines, two running
Speaker 1: back type of sess I would um, and get your
Speaker 1: best players on the field. You can't ask too much
Speaker 1: of Safferian Jenkins one. You don't know what type of
Speaker 1: football shapes he's in, and so you want to you
Speaker 1: want to bring him along slowly because you last thing
Speaker 1: he wanted for him to get a hamstring or something
Speaker 1: like that. You know, But I think you have to
Speaker 1: put bal Paul and Matt fourteen to fill at the
Speaker 1: same time and try and see how defenses match up
Speaker 1: with it, and then take advantage of your best players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the Cardinals are in the league against the run.
Speaker 1: I know you can't get caught up too much in statistics,
Speaker 1: but on the surface, this is a pressure oriented defense.
Speaker 1: They got Chandler Jones former Patriots, twelve sex last year.
Speaker 1: I think he's got four sex this year. Marcus Golden,
Speaker 1: not a household name, but he's giving a household production.
Speaker 1: He's got six sacks in the year. And then Klass Campbell,
Speaker 1: a guy who probably doesn't get the recognition he deserves
Speaker 1: on the East Coast. Massive guy, massive got six eight
Speaker 1: maybe a two time pro bowler, fifteen and a half
Speaker 1: career sex from the interior. But I forget, I forget,
Speaker 1: you know, they gave him big money, and I forget
Speaker 1: who the safety is that they moved to linebacker. But
Speaker 1: they do well. Dion Buchanan. Yeah, they do a great
Speaker 1: job in blitching him, and he's able to match up.
Speaker 1: You know, it won't be foreign for him to match
Speaker 1: up with the Farren Jenkins because he's a former safety,
Speaker 1: so he should be big enough and strong enough and
Speaker 1: fast enough to keep up with them, you know. So
Speaker 1: you know, it's where it's usually an advantage because you
Speaker 1: can match him up against say a linebacker, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe a little a little different this week. You
Speaker 1: can't really thrive under Todd Bowles when he broke into
Speaker 1: the league coming out of Washington State. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: another plus because you really understand Todd Bowls should have
Speaker 1: the pulse of this team. He's familiar with what they
Speaker 1: like to do, what they can't do. So do you
Speaker 1: think he's jumping in with Jane Gaily even more than
Speaker 1: he normally would. I think he should have a lot
Speaker 1: of input because he knows that system. He knows what
Speaker 1: they're doing, how they adjust to certain routes, how they
Speaker 1: adjust a certain formations, how they adjust a certain personnels,
Speaker 1: and also they understand that as well. So that's the
Speaker 1: chess match, right, You know, you have to make sure
Speaker 1: that um they they that they use their knowledge of
Speaker 1: his system and it's a detriment to them because you
Speaker 1: use that knowledge against them and they'll be trying to
Speaker 1: do the thing and think at the same side. That's
Speaker 1: what makes it football so great. It's the battle of
Speaker 1: the of the minds. It's a chess match. Is this
Speaker 1: offense changing in Arizona though, Well, it's been known as
Speaker 1: a vertical passing attack, and I'm not saying they're totally
Speaker 1: getting away from that because he's still can max protect
Speaker 1: at times. But you love David Johnson. Well, David Johnson
Speaker 1: is the second best running back in the game. He's big,
Speaker 1: he's fast, he's explosive, he has a chip on the shoulder.
Speaker 1: He's a D one double a guy. He's the best
Speaker 1: catcher of the football out of all the running backs.
Speaker 1: He's as natural hands, soft hands. And what you usually
Speaker 1: get out of a running back is maybe a slant,
Speaker 1: maybe an out route, or maybe a bubble screen. They
Speaker 1: will they will throw him vertical routes lined up as
Speaker 1: a receiver, and it doesn't matter if it's a safety
Speaker 1: out there, it doesn't matter if it's a corner out there.
Speaker 1: He will get the ball. And when he gets the ball,
Speaker 1: he will run past anybody you were in the locker
Speaker 1: room before during win streaks and losing streaks. Right now,
Speaker 1: the Jets have lost three games in a row. A
Speaker 1: lot of pressure, a lot of negative noise on the outside.
Speaker 1: How do you as a player handle that when you
Speaker 1: insulate yourself from things externally and how difficult is that? Well?
Speaker 1: What you what you said it right? You insulate yourself.
Speaker 1: You you you you, you cut out all the white
Speaker 1: noise and you focus on what's important. What's important is
Speaker 1: the next game and getting the win. You know, you
Speaker 1: get a win here, you get you get two to
Speaker 1: two together. Now those those narratives start to change, and
Speaker 1: you have to just make sure that you don't get
Speaker 1: too high when that changes too. Because they loved you
Speaker 1: when you beat Buffalo. Everything was great, everybody was great,
Speaker 1: and of course you stink win when you lose to
Speaker 1: to all the other teams, no matter how good other
Speaker 1: people may perceive them to be. So you just want
Speaker 1: to get a victory. So you're you're hurried. You're going
Speaker 1: to sleep early because you're hoping that the next day
Speaker 1: will come so you can hurry up and get to
Speaker 1: the football game. You think this is a better matchup
Speaker 1: for the Jets overall. You're not saying whether they're gonna
Speaker 1: win or lose, but you think it's a better matchup
Speaker 1: paper than Pittsburgh. I think this is a better matchup
Speaker 1: because you know the quarterback isn't Ben Roethlisburg. He's he's
Speaker 1: good and they have tremendous record, but he's coming off
Speaker 1: a concussion um if he even plays, if not, they
Speaker 1: may get Drew Stanton, which is definitely a better matchup
Speaker 1: because it limits the offense and he's mistake prone, he'll
Speaker 1: he'll give the game away. So, um, you know, I
Speaker 1: think they have their better matchup against this offensive line
Speaker 1: that's banged up, and um, you know, they just have
Speaker 1: to make sure that they can contain David Johnson. David
Speaker 1: Johnson and you offensively would like to see a little
Speaker 1: bit more Forte and Paul and those their guys that
Speaker 1: those are gods you can count on, you can trust
Speaker 1: on them. You know. Then you can put him on
Speaker 1: the field at the same time because they both have
Speaker 1: receiver skills right right, so you can break the formation
Speaker 1: no different if you have two great tight ends, you
Speaker 1: put both tight ends out there and you split your
Speaker 1: matchups because it'll be interest is interesting to see how
Speaker 1: they match up. How do you think Bowls does attack
Speaker 1: this Arizona offense? Last week we saw a lot of
Speaker 1: coverage in the back trying to get there with the
Speaker 1: the front uh four. Obviously Ben was in the shotgun
Speaker 1: almost entirely the whole game, so you're operating out of
Speaker 1: an advantage there. Well, Arizona try to do the same
Speaker 1: thing well, well, Carson. Carson is like a deer stuck
Speaker 1: in the headlights. You know exactly where he's going to be.
Speaker 1: He's not the fleet of foot, He's not the guy
Speaker 1: who's gonna extend plays like Ben Roethlisberg. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: be squatting defenders down and still delivering the ball. So
Speaker 1: they like to take deep shots, so it's gonna give
Speaker 1: you more time to really get to the passer, you know.
Speaker 1: And they don't have a great line. They don't have
Speaker 1: a great line at all, so they may have to
Speaker 1: keep David Johnson in and make him chip out, which
Speaker 1: is advantage to you. They have Gressham, But anytime you
Speaker 1: have a tight end against one of your premier pass rus,
Speaker 1: should you expect that pass rus should have win defensively.
Speaker 1: And I've been asked this, and I was asked us
Speaker 1: on Twitter because we're taking some fans questions, is what
Speaker 1: do you think Todd Bowls and Casey Rodgers has to
Speaker 1: do with this unit? Because I've always been of My
Speaker 1: thought process has always been, hey, listen and you talk
Speaker 1: the same way. Players gotta make plays and at the
Speaker 1: same but at the same time, what would you like
Speaker 1: to see them do defensive. Well, when it gets down
Speaker 1: to this, you gotta strip down and go to the basics,
Speaker 1: right listen. I'd rather you guys not do too much
Speaker 1: thinking and be able to play fast, and you guys
Speaker 1: trying to have too much of the playbook. Maybe I
Speaker 1: have to scale it back a bit and you know,
Speaker 1: go more conservative and trust my guys to win up top,
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, the game is
Speaker 1: about matchups. You have to win your your individual matchups,
Speaker 1: and that's what's not been happening. You know, maybe ten
Speaker 1: guys win they match up on one play, but one
Speaker 1: guy lets down, you know, So you got to go
Speaker 1: back to the basics, and everybody has to pull their
Speaker 1: own weight. Everybody has to stay within themselves and not
Speaker 1: try and be some superhero and do everybody's job. Because
Speaker 1: when you're trying to do somebody else's job, who's doing yours.
Speaker 1: So they have to just calm down and get it
Speaker 1: together and work it out. You gotta read on the
Speaker 1: league right now. Well you have you've been impressed with
Speaker 1: the Atlanta last couple of weeks. Yeah, I picked the
Speaker 1: line I actually do. Yeah, absolutely, because this isn't the
Speaker 1: same old line of Falcons just defensively, they're still struggle.
Speaker 1: But you know last year, you know Freman snapped off,
Speaker 1: but he got tired. They overused him. You know, he
Speaker 1: was like the fantasy, you know wonder. But now Coleman
Speaker 1: is that other big back. So what you saw, everybody
Speaker 1: wants to try and get Julio. But now Julio has backup.
Speaker 1: Last year, Rannie White wasn't a sufficient backup. He wasn't
Speaker 1: a sufficient um batman and robbing type of combination. Mohammed
Speaker 1: so knew the reason that Cincinnati's struggling because Mohammed sannew
Speaker 1: and Marvin Jones isn't there. So now you've got another
Speaker 1: big man there that can make you pay if you
Speaker 1: decided to take Julio Jones away. Yeah, Julio Jones at
Speaker 1: three hundred yards a year the week before, but last
Speaker 1: week he didn't have a good game. But everybody else
Speaker 1: did you know Coleman receiving out of the backfield, those
Speaker 1: dual threat um type of running backs, framing going crazy
Speaker 1: crazy exactly. So now they have versatility, Now they have depth,
Speaker 1: and they really I think physically took it to Denver
Speaker 1: because Denver wasn't prepared at the linebacker position to come
Speaker 1: fill those gaps and to cover those guys man and man.
Speaker 1: Man's so the only undefeated team you're surprised of sitting
Speaker 1: there at five and a no. That's that's the reason
Speaker 1: I got on an airplane and flew out the Minnesota
Speaker 1: last week. That those guys are humbled. Those guys Zimmer
Speaker 1: got them, you know, their their mind and in the
Speaker 1: right frame of mind. You talked about losing your best,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the best running back of all time,
Speaker 1: losing your starting quarterback and losing your left tackle. And
Speaker 1: they didn't blink and they say, woa me. They just
Speaker 1: got together. And what happens whenever you have adversity early
Speaker 1: and you live through it, it makes you a better
Speaker 1: team because now everybody's on board, Guys that may have
Speaker 1: just been leaning on watching Adrian Peterson run the ball,
Speaker 1: everybody stepping up and trying to do their parts, and
Speaker 1: now you have a more complete team. So that's exactly
Speaker 1: what Brandon Marshall said in the locker room the other day,
Speaker 1: is that the failure after failure comes growth, and right
Speaker 1: now the Jets are facing a lot of adversity, and
Speaker 1: Brandon thinks that they had a good week of practice
Speaker 1: and even though the score and running that ball, they
Speaker 1: did a lot of good things. So if the Jets
Speaker 1: can get through this and maybe get a win this
Speaker 1: week in Arizona, can we say good good things on
Speaker 1: the horizon? Yeah. Moment Momentum is a crazy thing. You
Speaker 1: can swing one way in the next and now it
Speaker 1: was swinging your way early. Now is not how do
Speaker 1: you get it back? You get it back and you
Speaker 1: hold it, you capture you're trying to put it in
Speaker 1: the bottle and you just spand on it. I thought
Speaker 1: about it. That's it. Bart Scott a podcast. Next Y