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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to

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Speaker 1: the e A Podcast with Eric Allen. Take it away,

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Speaker 1: all right, Welcome to the A Podcast. Erik Allen here

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Speaker 1: in studio with the mad Backer defensive coordinator part Scott.

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Speaker 1: Monday night football jets in the desert trying to find

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Speaker 1: some water in Arizona after a three game losing streak.

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Speaker 1: What does it mean part for a player to play

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Speaker 1: on Monday Night, Because it's a lot different than when

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Speaker 1: we were growing up, when Monday night was the deal.

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Speaker 1: You had to be home to be watching Monday night football.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man um, it's prime time. Whenever

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Speaker 1: you get opportunity to be the only show in town,

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Speaker 1: you know you you look forward to it as an

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Speaker 1: opportunity for you to introduce yourself to the world, to

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Speaker 1: the masses. Because now you don't have to worry about

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Speaker 1: people in Dallas tune into the Dallas game. You have

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Speaker 1: to worry about people in San Francisco playing to to

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco game. Everybody's watching your game. You have

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Speaker 1: everybody's fan base, and you have an opportunity can name

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Speaker 1: for yourself. We always say you make your name in

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Speaker 1: a regular season you make your fame in the postseason. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is kind of a special day because you can

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Speaker 1: make your name and your fame on Monday Night football,

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Speaker 1: and you look forward to that. You look for an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to say this is who I am, this is

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Speaker 1: how I play, I'm coming watch me. I'm worth the

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Speaker 1: price of admission Monday nights. When Bart Scott was in

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Speaker 1: New York, Jet used to have the fellas over for

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Speaker 1: a big party. You guys get together, you watch the game,

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Speaker 1: and then you take care of the fellas afterwards. But

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Speaker 1: it is the game that the pros still watch Monday

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Speaker 1: night absolutely because you know, you're evaluating your peers. You're

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Speaker 1: you're preparing yourself to your peers. So you know, that's

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Speaker 1: why the game is so important, because it's not for

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Speaker 1: You're not paying paying for the You're not playing for

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Speaker 1: the fans, so to speak. You're playing to show your

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Speaker 1: really care about being fan favorites. They want to be

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Speaker 1: respected by their peers. So when football players talk nearly

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Speaker 1: man that do bad, you won't respect for people. To

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Speaker 1: understand the craft, to understand the business, understand the defense,

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Speaker 1: understand the offense understand that what's trying to get done,

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Speaker 1: so they can say you rather you rather a football

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Speaker 1: player to say you're a batman than a fan say

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Speaker 1: because he may or may not really understand what makes

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Speaker 1: you a bad man, what makes you a great player,

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Speaker 1: what makes you unique, what makes you special? And Monday

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Speaker 1: night football, the lives are the brightest. It's the brightest baby,

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Speaker 1: and that's what you want to show up. You are

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Speaker 1: a national brand. You are on the NFL today, you

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Speaker 1: are part of Merrill Lynches financial literacy. They don't take

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Speaker 1: my money away, Morgan Stanley, Morgan Stanley, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Merrill Lynch, I think sponsors one of our shows. You know,

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Speaker 1: all the sponsors run together. So Morgan Stanley, I'm not

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Speaker 1: taking your money away. They just took a day's councel

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Speaker 1: to check. So you are all over the place. Do

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Speaker 1: you think your brand as a player was enhanced by

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Speaker 1: what happened one day night football Baltimore Ravens, New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: The way you competed at all, So it was really

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Speaker 1: the first time the nation saw your personality, correct, don't

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Speaker 1: you think? Well, that's what the first time they got

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Speaker 1: introduced to my crazy because everybody was watching. You know, Uh,

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Speaker 1: what really put me on the scene, We put me

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Speaker 1: hit on Ben Roethlisberger. But after that, right right, that

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Speaker 1: They're like, who is this crazy nut? Just do as

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Speaker 1: and it came at a frustrating time in the game. Um,

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Speaker 1: because I felt like, you know, um, we were handed

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Speaker 1: the short end the stake that you know, all odds

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Speaker 1: It was syndicated. They you know, it was simulcast on

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Speaker 1: So the NFL one that way. But you know, it

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Speaker 1: important game for us to kind of show everybody who

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Speaker 1: we were that, yeah, we may have underachieved, but we're injured,

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Speaker 1: next game, UM, the referee who was there got suspended

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Speaker 1: for three games, which nobody talks about. I got fined

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Speaker 1: twenty five grand, which at that time was a hell

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Speaker 1: so they kept it at five. I think Warren sapped

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Speaker 1: I didn't you know, how to pay more money, and

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Speaker 1: Brian Bella had your back. Oh yeah, Brian big help

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Speaker 1: How would that impact the jetson? How does that impact

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Speaker 1: who I'm sure was always in limbo every week figuring

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Speaker 1: but on the surface, this is a pressure oriented defense.

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Speaker 1: They got Chandler Jones former Patriots, twelve sex last year.

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Speaker 1: they do well. Dion Buchanan. Yeah, they do a great

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Speaker 1: think he's jumping in with Jane Gaily even more than

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Speaker 1: offense changing in Arizona though, Well, it's been known as

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Speaker 1: at times. But you love David Johnson. Well, David Johnson

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Speaker 1: is the second best running back in the game. He's big,

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Speaker 1: He will get the ball. And when he gets the ball,

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Speaker 1: he will run past anybody you were in the locker

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Speaker 1: room before during win streaks and losing streaks. Right now,

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Speaker 1: the Jets have lost three games in a row. A

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure, a lot of negative noise on the outside.

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Speaker 1: How do you as a player handle that when you

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Speaker 1: insulate yourself from things externally and how difficult is that? Well?

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Speaker 1: What you what you said it right? You insulate yourself.

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