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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm Isaac Lowing gron Luca Magic.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, what happened last night is Dallas takes a

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Speaker 3: two to oh series lead and beats the Minnesota Timberwolves.

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Speaker 1: Luka Doncicz just dancing.

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Speaker 3: On the defensive player of the year Rudy Gobert, shakes

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Speaker 3: him up, hits a step back three and the MAVs

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Speaker 3: win by one point. What an ending last night. And

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Speaker 3: talking some smack too. You can't Efan guard me. He

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Speaker 3: was going crazy last night. That was just great theater man.

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Speaker 3: We talked about the blowouts and the playoffs. That was

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Speaker 3: a little slice of ah, some playoff magic. That was

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Speaker 3: a beautiful thing I thought last night. Unless you're a

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Speaker 3: Timberwolves fan, of course.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, which there were many. I mean, the

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Speaker 4: Target Center was absolutely rocking. The Timberwolves rise through the

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Speaker 4: postseason has been fun to watch for anybody who's not

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Speaker 4: a Wolves fan, because Anthony Edwards is one of the

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Speaker 4: most likable players on the planet. I mean, he continues

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Speaker 4: to impress me with how he handles the spotlight. There

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Speaker 4: are a lot of people who fold in the big moments.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of people who can't handle the press

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Speaker 4: when they arrive at their door. Finally, after toiling away

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Speaker 4: in the darkness, Anthony Edwards.

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Speaker 1: Is a star.

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Speaker 4: He is a star, and I hope that the wolves

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Speaker 4: advance just because I want to advance his storyline.

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Speaker 1: I want to see how big we.

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Speaker 4: Could make this guy because I think the NBA has

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Speaker 4: a likability problem. I look around the NBA and I

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Speaker 4: look at some of the best players, like Jokic, and

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Speaker 4: we talked about.

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Speaker 1: This two weeks ago. Jokic makes me yawn.

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Speaker 4: You look at Lebron James the King, and Lebron's unlikable.

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Speaker 4: I mean, don't get me wrong, Like he's done a

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Speaker 4: lot for the sport, and there's nothing obviously wrong with him,

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Speaker 4: Like he's a good family man, and there's a lot

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Speaker 4: you could say about his game still as he's nearing four.

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Speaker 1: But but there's a likability problem with Lebron.

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Speaker 4: There isn't the mass appeal there was for Jordan during

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Speaker 4: the nineties, a guy like Anthony Edwards, even though Luca

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Speaker 4: was incredible, Like Luca has been around for you know,

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Speaker 4: almost a decade now, and Luca still hasn't crossed over

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Speaker 4: into stardom yet. Like I I hope that Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 4: can take the mantle of the NBA and do something

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Speaker 4: significant in these playoffs and and maybe even do the

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Speaker 4: unthinkable for most people early in this season, thinking the

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Speaker 4: Wolves have a chance at a championship because I like

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Speaker 4: that team and I like that player. But you got

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Speaker 4: to give the flowers where the flowers belong this morning,

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Speaker 4: and that's at the feet of Luka Doncic, who just

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Speaker 4: I mean that that that ending sequence was incredible, A

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Speaker 4: step back three over the reigning defensive Player of the

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Speaker 4: Year and then some Slovenian trash talking.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't write a script that good. I was trying

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Speaker 1: to I was trying to figure out what he said.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't get there. I mean, definitely an MF yeah, bad,

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Speaker 5: one of those. But I don't know if for sure,

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I don't know if there was a Slovenian

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Speaker 5: going back and forth between English and you know, whatever

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he.

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Speaker 5: Speaks multiple languages. But so two things about that shot.

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Speaker 5: First of all, I agree Rich it was. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Second of all.

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Speaker 5: Luca's point prop last night was twenty nine and a half.

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Speaker 5: He was on twenty nine when he hit the shot,

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Speaker 5: and then he obviously went over. The shot put him over,

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Speaker 5: But there was a lot a lot of people. It

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Speaker 5: was one of the more bet props last night.

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Speaker 1: We're we're up in.

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Speaker 5: Arms or very very happy or very upset about that one.

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Speaker 5: I Nicole Kicic not being here I think makes it

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Speaker 5: a little interesting, right because I think if it was

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Speaker 5: Luca against the Nuggets, it would be a very different

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Speaker 5: you know, the way that they guard him. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if Minnesota really has someone that can guard him

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Speaker 5: like I think. You know, Gobert can't stay with him,

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Speaker 5: and I don't know if there's anyone else that has size.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he really is a special player, and he's

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Speaker 1: I think the difference too is Kyrie.

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Speaker 5: I mean, goodness, gracious, I know he wasn't all over

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Speaker 5: the box score last night, but I've been very critical

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Speaker 1: Of course, I used to live in New York, he

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Speaker 5: All of this stuff in the bubble like it was up,

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Speaker 5: it was down, it was down for a while. And

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Speaker 5: when I watch Kyrie this year, it's almost like you

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Speaker 5: can see the energy.

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Speaker 1: You know, radiating from him. Very positive, very calm, very

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Speaker 5: And that matters to him, right he's all, you know,

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Speaker 5: burning stage, you know before games like he is a

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Speaker 5: very much you know, where's the vibration taking me? And

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Speaker 5: he looks like he's ready to win a title with

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Speaker 5: this team. He looks like he's very secure with his situation.

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Speaker 5: It's a younger team around those two stars. Gafford. I mean, goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 5: one of the best rookies that we haven't talked about

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Speaker 5: all year really coming to the forefront now in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: And you've got some role players too, like PJ. Washington's

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Speaker 5: been there before. I just I'm fascinated to see how

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Speaker 5: trying to close the deal. I mean, they could really

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Speaker 5: obviously they could sweep, but if as long as they

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Speaker 5: this series out and then we just kind of wait

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Speaker 5: to see the disaster that takes place in the Eastern Conference,

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Speaker 5: and Man, Dallas Boston Kyrie going back. I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: this one has some good storylines to it if we

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Speaker 1: Mav Celtics final.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's just such a deflating loss for Minnesota. Where

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Speaker 3: you think about this game comes down to the final minute.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota is up by five, throw up by five points

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Speaker 3: with the minute to go, and then it was a

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Speaker 3: nice pass by Luca to Kyrie. Kyrie drains the corner three.

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Speaker 3: They're down by two. Horrible turnover by Anthony Edwards, just

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Speaker 3: then Luke Magic hits the three, and then just to

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Speaker 1: Minnesota's got a chance.

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Speaker 3: Nas Reed has been unbelievable all night, just canning three

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Speaker 3: great look, and it just rims out and they lose

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Speaker 3: a game, the second one at home. They're trailing two

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Speaker 3: lead on the heels of Game one not going your way, right,

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Speaker 3: And that was close to the Karl Anthony Towns basket interference,

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Speaker 1: They lose Game one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we got a five point lead in Game two,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, we're noted at one apiece. You know,

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Speaker 3: let's steal a game over the next two and we

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Speaker 3: got home court again. And then it all goes downward

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Speaker 1: That was crazy.

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Speaker 3: But it wasn't just a Luca step back three, which

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Speaker 3: is deflating enough. It's having a five point lead in

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Speaker 3: the final minute and your star throws the ball out

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Speaker 3: of bounds. That's that's tough to recover from. Man.

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Speaker 1: But I'll say one other thing real fast.

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Speaker 3: I think the NBA playoffs are like the Boston Celtics,

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Speaker 3: and well we'll dive into the Celtics a little bit

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Speaker 3: more later in the show. But the negatives stand out

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Speaker 3: more than the positives to a lot of people, whether

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Speaker 3: it's the NBA Playoffs or the Celtics. And I think

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Speaker 3: that we look at these blowout games, and there have

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Speaker 3: been a lot and it's like, there we go again,

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Speaker 3: another twenty point win. When are we gonna get some magic?

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Speaker 3: When are we gonna get some drama? And I'm there too,

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Speaker 3: but last night that was a sensational game. But you

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Speaker 3: watch if there's a blowout today and Halliburton can't go

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Speaker 3: and the Celtics waltz it's gonna be another collective eye

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Speaker 3: roll and man.

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Speaker 1: When are we gonna get some drama.

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Speaker 3: It's like we just got some drama last night. Let's

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Speaker 3: not forget about that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know what I do hate though about the game

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Speaker 4: is you have the the Jaden McDaniels, Kyrie Irving, did

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Speaker 4: the foul. All they could refuse review was who touched

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Speaker 4: it last? So you had that situation come up and

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Speaker 4: it benefits Dallas. And obviously Dallas does what Dallas does,

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Speaker 4: But I hate the fact that the biggest moment of

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Speaker 4: refs misting missing a.

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Speaker 1: Crucial call that was reviewed.

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Speaker 4: It just it's it's unsettling, right, you'd rather it be

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Speaker 4: more pure than that. I understand that the officials aren't

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Speaker 4: But it's it's one of those things where where it's

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Speaker 4: it's it's it's constant. Right with the NBA, I guess

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Speaker 4: it's the same with the NFL, where we're always belly

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Speaker 4: aching over something in a tight game that the officials

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Speaker 4: or the referees did.

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Speaker 1: And this game was no different. And I remember feeling

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Speaker 1: in a little in a.

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Speaker 4: Little way, even though that was a special moment for

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Speaker 4: Luca and Dallas, and it, I mean blew the lid

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Speaker 4: off the place, I should say, took the air out

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Speaker 1: It's still it cheapened it a little bit.

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Speaker 4: And I hate that about basketball sometimes, like it feels

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Speaker 4: like you've got everything right there in your hands, just

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Speaker 4: do the right thing, and they can't seem to get there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't focus on that too much. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I agree, like there's always there's always something Brian your

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Speaker 5: your your take was fascinating with the NBA playoffs, Like

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Speaker 5: I think it's been better in the later rounds. I

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Speaker 5: always think the first rounds tough anyways, because these teams

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Speaker 5: are just usually the gap between the teams at the

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Speaker 5: top and the bottom are pretty big. But the irony

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Speaker 5: is the best first round series was a two seven,

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Speaker 5: you know, Nick sixers. But I think things have really

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Speaker 5: tightened up in this round. I think like the Pacers

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Speaker 5: games were great, Like the game one of the Pacers

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Speaker 5: Celtics was fantastic. I know, the second game with Haliburton

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Speaker 1: But these Nuggets MAVs games have been good. I think

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Speaker 5: MAVs ecuse me, the Tols and the Nuggets play played

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Speaker 5: a couple of good games later in the series.

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Speaker 1: Earlier in the series was tough.

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Speaker 5: I don't have any complaints about the NBA playoffs. I

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Speaker 1: Is that the worst thing ever?

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Speaker 4: I don't think it is right right Like It's almost

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Speaker 4: you were just describing, Jared where it opens to can worms,

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Speaker 1: Challenged, challenge, challenge, challenge, so.

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Speaker 4: That we can find the foul that we can award possession,

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear get you. Well,

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Speaker 4: So the Celtics really backed off in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 4: And that's unfortunate for the NBA because they have such

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Speaker 1: And that's the way it should be.

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Speaker 4: In the playoffs, you should be excited about the things

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Speaker 5: You guys want to talk about that Rangers overtime win

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Speaker 1: Come on, it was trauma one one and overtime No.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, the NBA Playoffs takes center stage, and we're excited

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Speaker 3: I do you think, guys, I'd be okay with that hockey.

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Speaker 3: The playoff game the night before didn't go my way.

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Speaker 3: I had cash on the Dallas Stars.

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Speaker 1: Well, the last time the Rangers won the Cup, it

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm yet real fast. This is the way it

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Speaker 1: Oh I watched that, Brian. I can't believe they didn't

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Speaker 3: There's a shot that goes like, goes through.

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Speaker 1: It's a knife through.

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Speaker 3: It's a hot knife through, butter right through a sea

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Speaker 3: I got them in game one. The crowded simultaneously jumps

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Speaker 1: Right, hit the post. Hit the post.

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Speaker 5: Friend of the Oilers in this series, and they had

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys are on the list.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of people who hate watch the

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Speaker 4: Oh, the Chiefs that they're they're turning into the Patriots

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Speaker 4: everybody isn't necessarily a Chiefs fan, but it feels like

440
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Speaker 4: everybody roots against the Chiefs when the Chiefs play, because

441
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Speaker 4: there it's it's it's almost like the Warriors. It's almost

442
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Speaker 4: like the Bulls, like when you have a dynasty or

443
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Speaker 4: a budding dynasty. People think it's awesome at first, and

444
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Speaker 4: then they turn on it. And we're getting to the

445
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Speaker 4: phase where I think the Chiefs are turning into the

446
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Speaker 4: most hate watched team overall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that.

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Speaker 5: I think Brady was the one that came to mind,

449
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Speaker 5: obviously those Patriot teams.

450
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Speaker 1: But I'm also a Jets fan, so you know, no, no,

451
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Speaker 1: you're accurate, you're highs.

452
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Speaker 5: I'll be honest, this is as a Jets fan, I'm

453
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Speaker 5: hate watching the Jets for years. But that's another story

454
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Speaker 5: for another day. And they've hurt me so many times.

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Speaker 1: I guess. I guess maybe towards the.

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Speaker 5: End of the Denver thing with Peyton, I know he's

457
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Speaker 5: such a likable guy, but I remember my friends, you know,

458
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Speaker 5: we used to call him noodle arm at the I mean,

459
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Speaker 5: it was just like, and he got to that Super

460
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Speaker 5: Bowl man, and they won that thing, but it was

461
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Speaker 5: it was a tough watch for Peyton at the end.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of guys that I just like.

463
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Speaker 1: When I watched them.

464
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Speaker 5: I cringe. I think I think Brady was for me,

465
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Speaker 5: the one of my childhood. Oh you know what, No,

466
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Speaker 5: I'll give you another one, because this guy stole a

467
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Speaker 5: Super Bowl away from me, or a Super Bowl appearance

468
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Speaker 5: away from me.

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and the Steelers, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: I used to hate watching those those Steelers teams because

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Speaker 5: they were very boring teams back in the day, like

472
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Speaker 5: in their in their heyday, like they were kind of

473
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Speaker 5: Roethlisberger in a cloud of dust and defense and you know,

474
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Speaker 5: you know, the steel Curtain. It just I hated watching

475
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Speaker 5: those teams. But again, I'm biased as a Jets fan.

476
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Speaker 5: Those are the teams that bugged me when I.

477
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Speaker 1: Was a kid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I hear you. And as a fan of

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Speaker 3: another team in the AFC East. You know, Jared, you're

480
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Speaker 3: the Jets guy. I'm the Dolphins guy. It was the Patriots.

481
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Speaker 3: The Patriots were so unbelievably good.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.

483
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Speaker 3: And I've stood up for Tom Brady pretty much his career.

484
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Speaker 3: I think the guy gets unnecessarily criticized. But I was

485
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Speaker 3: absolutely hate watching his teams back then because he need standing.

486
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Speaker 1: The way on my team.

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Speaker 3: You know, he crushed my team so many times. But

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Speaker 3: the second best thing to watching the Dolphins win a

489
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl, which has never happened in my lifetime, was

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Speaker 3: watching the undefeated Patriots lose their Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: That was freak insane, let me tell you. Sorry, sorry, Rich,

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize.

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize how how people really watch sports until

494
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Speaker 4: I got to the NFL and I experienced I listen.

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Speaker 4: I mean at the time, I'm a backup offensive lineman

496
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Speaker 4: for the Patriots, and for the most part, yeah, I

497
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Speaker 4: received really nice interactions from fans, you know, or fans

498
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Speaker 4: of the sport, people who didn't necessarily know me. But

499
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Speaker 4: it wasn't until I got to the NFL that I

500
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Speaker 4: realized that hate watching was a thing, because I would

501
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Speaker 4: run into people. I grew up in New York, so

502
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Speaker 4: I was surrounded by Jets and Giants fans. I would

503
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Speaker 4: run into people who'd be like, wait a second, you

504
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Speaker 4: play for the Pats.

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Speaker 1: I'd be like yeah. I'd be like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: that's awesome man, I e and hate your yeah, and

507
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Speaker 1: I'd be like what. I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I turn on those games just to watch them lose.

509
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Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm not even watching the Giants game I'm watching.

510
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Speaker 4: I'm I'm waiting for the Patriots to lose so I

511
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Speaker 4: could switch over. I'm like, well, that doesn't happen very often.

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Speaker 4: He was like, I know, you know what, Actually I

513
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Speaker 4: think I kind of hate you too, So I'm just

514
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Speaker 4: gonna stuck.

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Speaker 1: This guy say like it really it was. It was.

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Speaker 4: It was my first experience of that, But it's true.

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Speaker 4: I think those Patriots teams, I think the Chiefs are

518
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Speaker 4: heading in that direction. I completely agree with this whole

519
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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers phenomenon and what he said. Yeah, He's absolutely right.

520
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Speaker 4: It's must watch for good or for bad. Look, there

521
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Speaker 4: are certain names that cut through the zeitgeist and divide

522
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Speaker 4: the room. And this obviously crosses over, you know, all

523
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Speaker 4: entertainment or politics. But Lebron he'll divide a room. Jake Paul,

524
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 4: he'll divide a room. If we want to venture into politics, Trump,

525
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 4: he'll divide a room. Really, any politician, name one, it

526
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Speaker 4: doesn't matter. But like there are certain people Rogers, Rogers

527
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Speaker 4: is now a guy where there's some love for Rogers.

528
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Speaker 4: Don't get that wrong, Like people love them, but then

529
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Speaker 4: there's a huge faction of people who dislike him very much.

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Speaker 4: And he understands that in an attention economy, it really

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter whether you're hate watching or your love watching.

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Speaker 4: You're watching, and that makes him popular and that makes

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Speaker 4: him money.

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing I've always given then.

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Speaker 5: Rogers has obviously had his polarizing moments over his career,

536
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Speaker 5: and I always give him credit though because unlike a

537
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Speaker 5: lot of other athletes, Although this narrative is changing a

538
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Speaker 5: lot now over the last year or so, now that

539
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 5: every athlete has their own podcast, but before every athlete

540
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Speaker 5: had their own podcast, Aaron Rodgers every week would face

541
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Speaker 5: the media and like give you his whatever's on his mind,

542
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Speaker 5: Like and some people think that's over the top, and

543
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 5: that's fair. You're entitled to your opinion, but I appreciate

544
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Speaker 5: getting a peek behind the curtain because the only thing

545
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Speaker 5: that I can use to help me place bets and

546
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Speaker 5: analyze the market is information and kind of like a

547
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Speaker 5: poker table. Aaron Rodgers doesn't care, like he'll just tell

548
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Speaker 5: you what he has, and it's to me an interesting

549
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Speaker 5: way to go about business because we're in such a

550
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Speaker 5: guarded era for athletes. I mean, your former coach Rich

551
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 5: was the king of this, Like he wouldn't give you anything. Yeah,

552
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 5: Aaron gives us everything, Like we know exactly what he's

553
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 5: thinking about every topic, whether it has to do with

554
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Speaker 5: football or not. And I respect that as someone who

555
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 5: isn't forced to do that. He's doing that because he

556
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Speaker 5: likes to do it. He likes to talk, he likes

557
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 5: to share his opinion. And again, as a professional athlete

558
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Speaker 5: in a high profile position, that is a rare thing.

559
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Speaker 5: It's becoming, well that's rare now, but five years ago,

560
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 5: I think when he first started the whole McAfee thing,

561
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 5: like that was really rare and we'd see him every week,

562
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 5: like every stinking week. He would be on on TV

563
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 5: giving us his opinions about everything, and that is a

564
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 5: reason why people hate him. People hate people just hate

565
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 5: another person who's having success, who's famous. It really doesn't

566
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 5: matter what they say or what they stand for. People

567
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 5: just want to bring you down. Like I'm sure, I'm

568
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 5: convinced that I have people on social media that literally

569
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 5: just follow me so when I lose, they can talk

570
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 5: trash like there's no other reason why that they are

571
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Speaker 5: following someone besides hating them.

572
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Speaker 1: It is a very we live in a very hater society.

573
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Speaker 3: Well, I'll give you a couple of hate watch players

574
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Speaker 3: right around the corner. But first though, we don't hate

575
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Speaker 3: listen to this guy.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we love this guy.

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00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: Now we love listen to Isaac Low and Kron. That's it,

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Speaker 3: new term love listen. I love's got the latest here.

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Speaker 2: A couple things on that. By the way, if they

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Speaker 2: hate listen, they're still listening.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Yep, the Howard Stern thing right there.

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Speaker 2: I love also Jared, one of your followers whose profile

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Speaker 2: picture is an egg at GSDK forty three, that is

584
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: one of my burners. Hate following you?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well, I'm convinced you should see.

586
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Speaker 1: You guys should see some of the stuff that I get.

587
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Speaker 1: And we're rich.

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Speaker 5: You probably got it worse during your career, but I

589
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 5: get it pretty bad now. When I lose a bet

590
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 5: or when I just like give out my bets.

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Speaker 1: It's wild. I get it bad from Milwaukee.

592
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: Oh, I get it so bad, and I love it

593
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 5: because it means they care. Like imagine a grown person

594
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Speaker 5: like taking time from his day to like smash on

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Speaker 5: the keyboard angry thoughts like hate.

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Speaker 2: That's that's how it is to be honest with you. Also, Brian,

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Speaker 2: uh huh at triumphant six twelve. That's me.

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Speaker 1: It's as well. Huh, Burners, you have long crin. It

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Speaker 1: takes time to run all these rich Yes.

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Speaker 2: How you doing their pal doing well? Yeah? So rich

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that's you. That's me. I knew it. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Profile picture of a young, dark haired woman steering out

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Speaker 2: a window. I found that online. Okay, now that I've

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Speaker 2: cleared my conscious, how about some sports.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Game two of the NBA's Western Conference Finals on Friday

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Speaker 2: at I saw the Dallas Mavericks trail the Minnesota Timberwolves

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Speaker 2: by two points of the dying seconds. Here was Kevin

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Speaker 2: Harlan on tntchis.

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Speaker 1: St Dallases taking the.

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Speaker 2: Lead and the game one oh nine to one oweight.

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Speaker 2: They leave the series at two games to nine. In

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Speaker 2: Game two of the NHL's Eastern Conference Finals on Friday night,

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Speaker 2: the New York Rangers and Florida Panthers were tied at

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Speaker 2: one in overtime. Here's Don Lagreca on w EPN.

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Speaker 9: Trouper flips it out the center knocked down my Getro

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Speaker 9: fine strocheck back out the Parkley control.

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Speaker 1: We are tied one. It's now aft to five as

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Speaker 1: the Rakers win it over time to the on.

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Speaker 2: In Major League Baseball on Friday night, the Yankees at

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Speaker 2: four home runs at an eight nothing victory at San Diego.

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Speaker 2: They've won ten of twelve. The Cleveland Guardians have won

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Speaker 2: seven in a row. They won over the Angels in

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Speaker 2: Anaheim ten to four, Jose Ramirez two home runs and

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Speaker 2: four RBI. Finally, in the w NBA on Friday night,

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Fever got their first win of the year

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Speaker 2: with a seventy eight to seventy three road victory over

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Sparks. Caitlin Clark hit two big three

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Speaker 2: pointers down the stretch. He finished with eleven points, ten rebounds,

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Speaker 2: and eight assists in front of a crowd of nineteen thousand,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and three fellas.

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Speaker 1: This is at.

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Speaker 2: Kelly brad l four seven, three oh three. Back to you,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, I Low.

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Speaker 1: It is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: after we get off the air. We were talking about

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Speaker 3: hate watching. Aaron Rodgers had a quote. He said, speaking

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Speaker 3: of the Jets and all their primetime games, we are

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Speaker 3: must watch TV. Whether you love me or hate me,

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Speaker 3: people want to see me play. I think he's absolutely correct.

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Speaker 1: Spot on.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you a couple other players here. One is indisputable.

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson, oh Browns quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Good call. Just the matter.

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Speaker 3: If the Browns have a successful season, they're winning games,

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Speaker 3: they're in the playoffs, they have a deep run. You know,

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Speaker 3: as well as I do. There'd be a lot of

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Speaker 3: people hate watching the creepy quarterback. That's just indisputable.

657
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: Right there.

658
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: I'll give you another guy that you might initially think really,

659
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: Rock Purdy, Rock Purty is a great hate watch quarterback

660
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: because you're the way it works, right I think a

661
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: lot of people will say he's good, not great, got

662
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: a lot of talent around him, and the party police

663
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: come for your freaking jugular, you know, and the conversation

664
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Speaker 3: turns into after a win, look at Purdy's iron will

665
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: All the guy does is make plays and why are

666
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: these haters selling him short? And then the people that

667
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: are like good night Greater are like, oh my gosh,

668
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: these freaking Purty fanatics. He is a great hate watch

669
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Speaker 3: candidate right there. There's no doubt about it.

670
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: I love, I love, love love that you mentioned Brock

671
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: Party because it would have never come to my mind.

672
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: I work in San Diego. On my local radio show,

673
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: I work with a Niners fan. He he will, and

674
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: a dozen or a couple dozen of people on the

675
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 4: internet during the football season will defend Brock Party like

676
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: it's the second coming of Jesus Christ. Yes, I mean,

677
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: and now listen, you have full name too, you whole name,

678
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: Hayesus Christo, whatever you call your savior, it doesn't matter.

679
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: That's how Niners feel like this guy. Niners fans, I

680
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 4: should say, feel like this guy walks on water. And

681
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 4: the truth is Rock Party is a really nice quarterback.

682
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 4: The truth is he's a really smart player. He's got

683
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 4: a good enough arm to throw all of the big

684
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 4: boy NFL throws. I think he gets a little bit

685
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: rattled in big moments. We saw that in this postseason.

686
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: I think there's absolutely room to grow and he may

687
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 4: just continue growing and continue wowing us, because if you're

688
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: really paying attention, he's done some wow things over his

689
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: entrance into this NFL as mister irrelevant, the fact that

690
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: we're not allowed to call him mister irrelevant in the

691
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 4: shadow of a forty nine Ers fan is ridiculous.

692
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: Like they act like, well, he's not irrelevant at all.

693
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: It's like no, no, no, you don't understand this, Like

694
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 4: the Niners didn't think he was relevant. John Lynch picked

695
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 4: him last in the draft. He is an undrafted free

696
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 4: agent if he isn't selected with the last overall pick

697
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 4: in the NFL draft, which is fine. I don't understand

698
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 4: why we have to have revisionist history over this. Brock

699
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 4: Purty is a really nice quarterback. Brock perty is an

700
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 4: exceptional for a young quarterback to have as much success

701
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: as he's had. But brock Purdy is benefiting also greatly

702
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: from the system he's in. But if you talk to

703
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 4: a forty nine er fan, you're talking about John Elway,

704
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 4: you're talking about Dan Marino, you're talking about a young

705
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 4: Tom Brady. You know in twenty five years we're gonna

706
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: be roasting him at a dais and celebrating his Hall

707
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 4: of Fame career.

708
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: You jerk. That's how forty nine or fans react when

709
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: you come after brock Purdy.

710
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 5: When you said something like that, oh, he's a nice quarterback,

711
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 5: it just gave me flashbacks to every time I've been

712
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,959
Speaker 5: broken up with in my entire life.

713
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: Really nice guy. But you know it's just to just

714
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: to this or you to that.

715
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 5: I Brock is the perfect example, because Brock is the

716
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 5: example that there's such a polarizing opinion of where his

717
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 5: talents actually lie. Like say what you want about Aaron

718
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 5: Rodgers or Tom Brady, they're the thinking best, Like they're

719
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 5: the best at their position.

720
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: In their industry, right, like they're the pinnacle.

721
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 5: Whereas Brock, there's this polarizing he's so good but or

722
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 5: he's not so good but like there's really and frankly,

723
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 5: the arguments are very very valid on both sides, like

724
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 5: he is really good but and he's not really good.

725
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: But it is a really interesting debate.

726
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 5: In fact, I'm curious, you know, and maybe we'll still

727
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 5: be on the air when we can have this conversation

728
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 5: in like ten years. But where we remember Brock, like

729
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 5: like where he like we all know how Aaron Rodgers

730
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 5: is going to be Remember you canna remember Ember? It

731
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 5: was one of the greatest quarterbacks of his generation. I

732
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 5: think if he wins another Super Bowl, he will you know,

733
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 5: cemit that. But even if he doesn't win a Super

734
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 5: Bowl with the Jets, he will still be considered one

735
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 5: of the greatest quarterbacks of his generation. We're not having

736
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 5: that conversation about Brock. What conversation will we have about

737
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 5: Brock in ten years when he hangs it up like

738
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 5: that to me, is in it or maybe it's less

739
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 5: than that, maybe it's more who knows. I think that

740
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 5: is what makes him such a polarizing topic of conversation, like,

741
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 5: for example, we're not talking about any other mister irrelevance,

742
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 5: Like when was the last mister irrelevant we talked about

743
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 5: in this debate, Like it doesn't happen a guy drafted

744
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 5: that late has this much of an impact.

745
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: I know Tom was kind of there, but he wasn't

746
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: the last pick.

747
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 5: So it's just it really is a fascinating topic of

748
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 5: conversation to kind of see where people fall on the

749
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 5: brock in or out, go toor not.

750
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Speaker 1: He is Jared Smith right there.

751
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: FSR betting analyst Rich Ornberger with us Fenn State All American.

752
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Speaker 3: I'm Brian No coming up next. Jared Smith has been

753
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: hard at work, huh, hand crafting a parlay platter for you.

754
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Speaker 3: He will unveil it next. It's Fox Sports Saturday, right

755
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday,

756
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Speaker 3: right here on Fox Sports Radio.

757
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Speaker 1: We don't have time to waste. Let's get into this.

758
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 7: Check this out our late letter.

759
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Jared Smith, we are all ears.

760
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: What have you cooked up for us today?

761
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 5: Yeah? So I have not had a whole good time

762
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 5: betting the NBA props, the blowouts, this and that. So

763
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 5: we're going away from the NBA for the parlay platter today,

764
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 5: and we're running sprinting towards my beloved first inning wagers.

765
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 5: So bet MGM has this awesome thing where you can

766
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 5: bet on we've done the the full game nurfy, right,

767
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 5: like both.

768
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: Teams in the first inning. Well, now we're customizing it.

769
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: This is alac Harte nurfy.

770
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 5: Because you could take individual teams in each half inning

771
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 5: and then smush them together from different games and create

772
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 5: what I like to call a custom neurfy lay, a

773
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 5: neurfy parlay, as you say, So let's do that. And

774
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 5: I have three teams that I think will not score

775
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 5: in the first inning today. These are all from different games.

776
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 5: Let's start with the Mets Giants game that'll start in

777
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 5: a couple hours. Here, we're gonna go with the Mets

778
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 5: not to score. They're facing Jordan Hicks converted closer for

779
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 5: the Giants. He's four and zero on the road to

780
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 5: the nurfy this year, and he's gonna give you a

781
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 5: ninety seven mile an hour cheese in.

782
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: The first inning.

783
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 5: And the Mets just you know, they actually scored in

784
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 5: the first inning last night, but even with that still

785
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 5: just a sixteen percent scoring rate in the opening frame.

786
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: That's well below league average.

787
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 5: The Athletics again, another team that scored yesterday off Justin

788
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 5: Verlander in the opening frame and then didn't do a

789
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 5: whole lot after that. It was an unearned run off Orlander.

790
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 5: But Oakland is just is the dregs of the Kegs offensively.

791
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 5: There's seven for their last seventy seven against righty's in

792
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 5: the first inning. So yeah, we're gonna bet on Oakland

793
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 5: not to score today against Spencer Arragatty.

794
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: He's been kind of up and down this year. And

795
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: then finally the late night game.

796
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 5: It'll be basically a time parlay, so we'll get early

797
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: afternoon and now late night Guardians facing Jose Soriano today

798
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 5: for the Angels, who's gonna give you one hundred mile

799
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 5: an hour cheese in the opening inning? And Cleveland another

800
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 5: just brutal offense on the road a fourteen percent scoring

801
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 5: rate four times they've scored in twenty eight road games

802
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 5: this year. So Cleveland, Oakland and the Metros not to

803
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 5: score in the first inning.

804
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: If you smush all those together, it's plus one forty

805
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: two over at that MGM.

806
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 3: Wow, So what's the what's the stat on was it Oakland?

807
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 5: Oakland in the first inning against Righty's seven for their

808
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 5: last seventy seven.

809
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: True, there's seven and seventy.

810
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 5: Basically, it's in seventy seven at bats, seven hits in

811
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 5: seventy seven at bats in the first Chad Wild.

812
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Speaker 1: That is a fun I love.

813
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 4: I love baseball for that reason that you can dig

814
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: into any inning. You could do it at any time frame,

815
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 4: like how did they hit in the afternoon on odd day?

816
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: Yep, like they have a stat on everything.

817
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 5: I look at day games too, because some teams, like

818
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 5: Oakland's terrible, Like Oakland offense.

819
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: Is disgusting how bad they are at certain times.

820
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: But it's a beautiful thing if you're on the Nerfy train.

821
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly it is.

822
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 3: That's the thing, man, There's nothing sweeter than a three up,

823
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: three down if you're on a note. Yeah, I know

824
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: it is crazy, but quick you get a quick ruling

825
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 3: on that. Hey, come it up next. Your expectations impact

826
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: your opinions, especially with this team. You know, your expectations

827
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: impact your opinions, and I think that is especially true

828
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 3: with the Boston Celtics. Okay, so think about this. The

829
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: Boston Celtics have been heavily criticized during the playoffs this season,

830
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: and some of the criticisms are legitimate, but it's taken

831
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: way way, way way, wait, wait, way too far where

832
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: you can't trust this team. What is happening here with Okay,

833
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 3: they lost a game in the first round right to

834
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: the Miami Heat, who didn't have Jimmy Butler. The Miami

835
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: Heat hit like twenty three three pointers. Yeah, insane, right,

836
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: And then the Celtics they fell asleep at the wheel

837
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 3: the next round against the Cavs and that was surprising.

838
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 3: And then they almost lost game one against the Pacers.

839
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: Should have lost game one, but it was this dramatic

840
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: turn of events. Pacers couldn't inbound the ball, they elected

841
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 3: not to foul. Jalen Brown hits a corner three, which

842
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: is a sensational shot, but they don't get credit.

843
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think that it's a

844
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: weird dynamic.

845
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: Here where our criticisms show how much we expect from

846
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: the Celtics. They're a highly talented team, they don't have

847
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: many flaws at all, and we expect them to be

848
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: good pretty much every night, and when they aren't, we

849
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: freak out and we take it too far. Well, I

850
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: put it this way. This is the best way I

851
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: could explain it. I think the Celtics are not the

852
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: bright shiny toy anymore. The bright shiny toy going into

853
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: the Western Conference Finals is the Minnesota Timberwolves. It was

854
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards. It's the tea Wolves. They just took down Jokic,

855
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: the defending champs, the Nuggets.

856
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: They crash and burn the Wolves.

857
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: This guy, Anthony Edwards, he's Michael Jordan esque at times.

858
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: If the Timberwolves pulled out Game one the same way

859
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics did, it would have been talked about

860
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: completely differently. With the Celtics, It's like, what are the

861
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 3: Pacers doing?

862
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: These idiots? Man, The Celtics are so lucky.

863
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: If the Timberwolves won the game the same way and

864
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: they hit a clutch three to tie the game one

865
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: and overtime, we wouldn't shut up Anthony Edwards, this young superstar,

866
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: this team, my goodness, dynamic.

867
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: It's just that we've seen Boston.

868
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: We expect more from them, and when they don't measure

869
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: up to our expectations, we overreact.

870
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: It's the classic example here. So Boston.

871
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 4: I think the NBA in general has a likability problem.

872
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 4: I was talking about that in the first hour, Brian,

873
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 4: but you bring up an interesting point. I think Boston

874
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 4: is a perfect microcosm of the NBA in general. They've

875
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: got a serious likability problem too. Like Jason Tata when

876
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 4: he was talking about the expectations on the Celtics, where

877
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 4: he said, you know, the narrative is we're a super team,

878
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 4: but we don't have a Coach of the Year or

879
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: an MVP and we only had two All Stars.

880
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: So how could how could you say we're a super.

881
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: Team and we're not rewarded like a super team and

882
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: everybody's like shot up like like like like it's it's annoying.

883
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, there's no there, like there's there's

884
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 4: no star on Boston's team that you really connect with,

885
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 4: like Luca in that win with Dallas, and and again,

886
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 4: I think the NBA has kind of fumbled Luca his personality.

887
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 4: He could he could be a star in this league,

888
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 4: but he's he's just not cutting through and he's fun.

889
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: He's fun at times.

890
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 4: I mean, he might he might be wandering into that

891
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 4: moment where he reaches superstart in in this league. But

892
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 4: you know, he's he really hasn't stepped into that role yet.

893
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: He's a star, well really, he's a great player, but

894
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 4: he doesn't want to be a star. He wants to

895
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 4: go and disappear to Serbia and buy horses in the offseason.

896
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: He can't wait to get out of here, you know,

897
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: when the season's over.

898
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 4: He was bummed out last year, the reigning MVP and

899
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 4: an NBA champion and a Finals MVP was bummed out

900
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 4: that the parade was booked a couple of days later

901
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 4: because he wanted to get on the first thing smoking

902
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: to Serbia so he could go celebrate his NBA season

903
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: with his countrymen. I don't blame him, that's home, but

904
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 4: that does hurt the NBA in terms of likability.

905
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: And then you look at the Boston Celtics.

906
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 4: This team may win a Finals and nobody is going

907
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: to care except for the city of Boston because they

908
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 4: have a bunch of guys who feel a little too entitled.

909
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: That's the problem that the Boston Celtics have.

910
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: It's the NBA in general.

911
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 5: I mean, it's the Stars League. I think the baseball

912
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 5: world has the opposite of this problem, where the best

913
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 5: players on a team that hasn't been in the playoffs

914
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 5: in a million years, and no one even knows he

915
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 5: even exists, Like does Mike Trout even exists. I know

916
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 5: he's injured right now. But like it, it's kind of

917
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 5: the opposite.

918
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: Of that problem. It's almost like these guys have too

919
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: much of the influence.

920
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 5: And we could use a little bit more team and

921
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 5: a little bit less star, but that's just not the

922
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 5: way the sport is constructed.

923
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: I think the NBA actually works.

924
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 5: Better when there is a like a villain, and I

925
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 5: think it's obvious this year that it's I don't want

926
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 5: to say it's obvious. I guess maybe that's a little

927
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 5: bit too heavy, But to me, the villain this year

928
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 5: is Boston, right because of what you guys are saying,

929
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 5: They've had the easiest path to the finals that maybe

930
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 5: any team has ever had in the history of the NBA.

931
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 5: I mean, they're playing every single team without their star players,

932
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 5: and they're playing in a conference that is the weaker. Like,

933
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 5: not only do they have the easier road because of

934
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 5: injury luck, but they're also in the easier conference to

935
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 5: begin with. So it's like it'd be one thing if

936
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 5: the Western Conference was going through this, it's still tough

937
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 5: to get through the West. Like even if the t

938
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 5: Wolves didn't have Anthony d it would still be tough

939
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 5: to go on the road and beat them because they're

940
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 5: a very deep and talented team. With the Eastern Conference

941
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 5: teams that Boston has faced, I mean, it was like

942
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 5: the only player that Miami had with a pulse out,

943
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 5: the only player that Cleveland had with a pulse last

944
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 5: two games of this series out their best big man

945
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 5: who rebounds a million times games out like it was

946
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 5: it's just and now Halliburn out. And we don't know

947
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 5: that for sure, but if he is, let's be honest,

948
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 5: Boston's cake walking to the finals. This is one of

949
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 5: the easiest paths we've seen to the finals. And then

950
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 5: they're gonna get on their high horse and talk about

951
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 5: being a super team, like who have you beaten to

952
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 5: deserve that status? Like, But to be fair, even the

953
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 5: Lebron Miami super team lost in the finals, so that

954
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 5: Dallas Mavericks team.

955
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: That would be hilarious if that's the way it played

956
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: out this year.

957
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 5: But I just I think there's a lot of negative

958
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 5: vibes around this Boston team, and I don't think anything

959
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 5: they can do or say now is gonna change that.

960
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: Well, think about it like this.

961
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: They definitely have had an easy path because of what

962
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: you just said there, Jared against the Heat, Jimmy Butler,

963
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: also Jimei Hawkes, who was a very good rookie, he

964
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: was banged up. Then against the Cavs, Donovan Mitchell missed

965
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 3: the final two games. Jared Allen an All Star, he

966
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 3: missed the series. Like, so that's that's advantageous for the Celtics.

967
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 3: And then now Halliburton might not be a full go

968
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: he's hampered by a hamstring injury. So that's been a

969
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: favorable path the Celtics. They don't have Borzingis, who's a

970
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: definitely one of their key guys, great rim protector, and

971
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: they haven't had him for a number of games, and

972
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: they're winning in gentleman sweeps, you know. Yeah, Yeah, They're

973
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 3: running through these teams and it's like Boston is like

974
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: an NFL number one overall draft pick. We just saw

975
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 3: this with Caleb Williams of the Bears, where the guy's

976
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: got talent for days, but leading up to the draft,

977
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: we're nitpicking the flaws where it's like, well, I don't

978
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: know about this or that or that's what the Boston

979
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: Celtics are. They're a number one draft pick. Where we

980
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: don't look at the strengths, we dwell on the weaknesses

981
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 3: and ask yourself this, if it's Boston and Dallas in

982
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: the finals, Sure Boston's had a favorable path, but are

983
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 3: you counting them out?

984
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 1: You think Dallas is are the favorite?

985
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 10: Right?

986
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

987
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's been a favorable path. But I think

988
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: it's silly that we're just spending all this time. The

989
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 3: media is like they're under the magnifying glass with what

990
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: they don't do well. Their home record the last three

991
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: years in the playoffs is seventeen and fourteen. They've had

992
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 3: some embarrassing losses. It should not be that bad. That's

993
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: something to point out, But to dwell on it as

994
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: if there isn't an upside, or that they don't have

995
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: a great chance to win it all.

996
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

997
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: If you didn't watch the NBA and you just went

998
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: by the popular opinions of the Celtics, you would think

999
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: they're the Charlotte Hornets. You would think they absolutely suck.

1000
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: So that's all I'm saying, is the critic SYSM goes

1001
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: too far.

1002
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I don't disagree with anything you just said,

1003
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 4: but look, there are certain franchises in basketball that have

1004
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 4: cultural rot right, like they're it just feels like they're

1005
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 4: not going to get out of their own way. They're

1006
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 4: not going to do any sort of winning anytime soon.

1007
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: That's not the Celtics. That's not the reason why, uh

1008
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 4: they're in this conversation as a team that underplays their

1009
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 4: expectations or people seem to be off put by them.

1010
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 4: It's not one of those situations. They've been good, I

1011
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 4: mean historically been they've been good, and they're good.

1012
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: Now they're good still. They're they're they're also.

1013
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 4: They have good players like I you know, like there's

1014
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 4: nothing wrong with Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum, like they're

1015
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 4: they're good players in their overall pretty good people.

1016
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean Jalen Brown is like, yeah, he's.

1017
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 4: Like an intellectually curious, he's like an activist.

1018
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: He's a good human being.

1019
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, when you put these people in

1020
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 4: these Boston uniforms and they and I'm telling you, and

1021
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 4: they they underperform in any way, shape or form, it

1022
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 4: feels like there is almost an entitlement that's inherited and

1023
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 4: maybe it's because you're you're still feeling the reverberations from

1024
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 4: the Bird years. I don't know, but there's something going

1025
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: on with that jersey that when people see it, they

1026
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 4: get the ick. They just can't stand it. And unless

1027
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 4: you're winning championship after championship where respect has to be given,

1028
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 4: where respect is, do people take any chance to attack

1029
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 4: the Boston Celtics.

1030
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: And it's been like this my entire life. I mean,

1031
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: I remember growing.

1032
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 4: Up in New York and Jared you know this too, Yep,

1033
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 4: as a Knicks well, I wasn't an ex fand that

1034
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 4: I was a Bulls fan because Michael Jordan was everything

1035
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 4: to every kid of the nineties.

1036
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: But I live than a.

1037
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 4: House of Knicks fans, and every time the Boston Celtics

1038
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 4: played the Knicks, it was like, I don't know why

1039
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 4: we care so much, but everybody wanted to see the

1040
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 4: Celtics lose.

1041
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: Like so, I think there's just something to it.

1042
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 4: Brian, You've nailed it, like there there is an unnecessary

1043
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 4: amount of hatred that goes their way. But there is

1044
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 4: something about certain franchises where certain franchises like they just stink,

1045
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 4: and historically they stink like, think about the the Washington

1046
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: Commanders right now, Like there's rot, like and you just

1047
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 4: know somehow it's not gonna.

1048
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: Work out, right when you think about a team that's.

1049
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 4: Just hated and it's passed down for generations historically, like

1050
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 4: the Boston Celtics are that in the NBA.

1051
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, here's the difference between Washington the Commanders and the Celtic.

1052
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 5: Celtics have won recently, and I think Washington, the reason

1053
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 5: there's rot is because of the owner and not because

1054
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 5: of the players, right, I think that's the big difference.

1055
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 5: I think, frankly, this isn't it goes back to what

1056
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 5: we were talking about earlier, hate watching like it's success

1057
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 5: guys like you know, that's why people hate the Yankees.

1058
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 5: It's not because their players are you know, not nice

1059
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 5: people like Aaron Judge is a fantastic human being. Like

1060
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 5: all of these people are great people. But they're wearing pinstripes.

1061
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 5: You're gonna hate them unless you're a Yankees fan. Like

1062
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 5: that's just the way it is.

1063
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: And I think the best players are the ones that

1064
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: use it as fuel.

1065
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 5: And that's why Tatum said what he said that And

1066
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 5: I wasn't that critical of that I'm not gonna be

1067
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 5: too critical of what I'm never overly critical of what

1068
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 5: players say postgame unless they're like coming after a reporter

1069
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 5: or another player, if they're just voicing their opinions. And

1070
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 5: Rich you know this too, like you use things as

1071
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 5: fuel and then you say it to then reinforce it

1072
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 5: in your mind, almost like a manifestation. And I think

1073
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 5: that's where this Boston team is like. And every frankly

1074
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 5: every team that's competing for a title, it's a US

1075
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 5: versus the world mentality, even if it's not, even if

1076
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 5: it's not that you create these storylines in your head

1077
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 5: to manufacture this motivation and it works, it works, and

1078
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 5: and I think that's what Boston's done here, and if

1079
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 5: they go to win the title, and their entire narrative

1080
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 5: the entire time is everyone hates us, everyone's against us,

1081
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. Even if that's not true, Brian, to

1082
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 5: your original point about you know us being overly critical,

1083
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 5: I think the players will still create it in their

1084
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 5: minds because that is what they use to gain that

1085
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Speaker 5: extra edge and to find that finishing kick to get across,

1086
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 5: you know, to get across the end line and win

1087
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 5: a title, and I'm okay with that. Like, if that's

1088
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 5: what you need in order to give you your edge,

1089
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 5: is to make us the media the enemy, go ahead,

1090
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 5: we make you guys the enemy all the time. Do

1091
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 5: whatever you gotta do in your mind to get yourself

1092
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 5: right to play. So, yeah, we're gonna say what we're

1093
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 5: gonna say. But I think at the end of the day,

1094
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 5: Boston's gonna create whatever narrative they need to in order

1095
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 5: to get themselves up for these games.

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Speaker 1: Our trusted producer Bo Benson has something on this. We

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00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: are all ears a Bo.

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Speaker 11: Yeah. This is the unfortunate part of my job here

1099
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 11: is I have to fact check people sometimes. Jared said,

1100
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 11: the Celtics have won recently, you have to go all

1101
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 11: the way back to when I was one year out

1102
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 11: of high school, the last time they've.

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00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: Won before the Washington game. They have.

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Speaker 11: They have the same amount of rings in the last

1105
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 11: thirty forty They've.

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Speaker 1: Also been of the finals.

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00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 5: You've had success, Like I was just compared Washington, which

1108
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 5: they haven't barely been of the playoffs in the last decade.

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00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I and my my comparison to the Commanders

1110
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 4: probably was it. It's confusing. I mean, like certain certain

1111
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 4: franchises they have different problems, right, Like everybody comes after

1112
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 4: the Commanders because historically they've stunk.

1113
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 3: How about this, Yeah, yeah, maybe a little more cowboy

1114
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good.

1115
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: That's okay, that's perfect. Right, they've won, but they haven't

1116
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: really won.

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00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's perfect, like always the brides maid, never

1118
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 4: the pride, right, but they're still coasting. It feels off

1119
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 4: of their successes of yesteryear and they're a popular brand.

1120
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Speaker 4: But when you're on the outside looking in, you're like,

1121
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 4: why why is everybody? Why does everybody care so much

1122
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 4: about the Cowboys? And it's the same thing with that

1123
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 4: is the perfect comparison, Brian, Yeah, that is the so

1124
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 4: with the Celtics, it's the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Like if you're a Celtics fan, it's like you get it.

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00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 4: Like it's it's a long standing history of successes or

1127
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 4: almost successes as of late. You know, last time they've

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00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 4: really been successful was Doc Rivers and KG and Ray

1129
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 4: Allen and Paul Pierce. Right you know, but but and

1130
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 4: that's a long way away now. But when you think

1131
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 4: about the Celtics, you do think about success, but also

1132
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 4: you're kind of annoyed by them, and that's very similar

1133
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 4: to how people feel about the Cowboys. There's no reason

1134
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 4: to hate Dak Prescott, Like, there's no reason that you

1135
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 4: wouldn't like Dak Prescott except for the fact that he's

1136
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 4: wearing a Cowboys uniform. And I feel like Brown Tatum

1137
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 4: Celtics of the past, Marcus Smart, it doesn't matter who

1138
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 4: puts on that jersey, people will find reasons to dislike

1139
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 4: them because they're wearing that hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: But even to be fair, like even the Cowboys, like

1141
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 5: the Celtics, the last two years have been to the

1142
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 5: Eastern Conference Finals and the NBA Finals, like the last

1143
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 5: time the Cowboys the NFC Championship game. So like again,

1144
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 5: when I say they've won recently, they have been to

1145
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 5: basically the pinnacle of the mountain.

1146
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: They just haven't gotten over the hump.

1147
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 10: Yeah it I think we lost Brian here. Let him

1148
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 10: back here real quick.

1149
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 4: That's one of the things that I love about basketball,

1150
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 4: that I love about sports is it doesn't matter what

1151
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 4: side you land on the debate, there's something to chew on,

1152
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 4: Like the Boston Celtics.

1153
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: Look, there's no reason to really really disavow.

1154
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 4: Them for any reason or to you know, crush them

1155
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 4: for any reason outside of loyalty to another brand or

1156
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 4: overly critical.

1157
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 5: I mean, we as a society are very overly critical

1158
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 5: of everything that is that happens in sports, and I

1159
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 5: understand why, but it's just the way we are as

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00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 5: a society.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we take it a little

1162
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: bit too far. But interesting, I'll put a bow on

1163
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: it right here, real fast. I think this is a

1164
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 3: perception shifting playoff run for the Celtics, meaning this, if

1165
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 3: they win it all this season, it's not just about

1166
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 3: this season. We're gonna reevaluate previous seasons. You know, it's

1167
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 3: gonna shift everything from this team can't be trusted, they

1168
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 3: can't win big, and we're gonna look on the heels

1169
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: of a championship this season and say, well, I mean,

1170
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 3: losing to the Golden State Warriors isn't the worst thing ever.

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00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: And they've made it to the Eastern Conference finals six

1172
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: of the.

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Speaker 3: Past eight years. That's an amazing run. If they win,

1174
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 3: it all shifts everything. If they agreed, don't everything stays

1175
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 3: the same, like the Marino discussion, right, yeah, absolutely right.

1176
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 3: If he won at the end, it would change how

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Speaker 3: you looked at the rest of the career. John Elway,

1178
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 3: John Elway, I can't win it, all right, Yeah, So

1179
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: if the Celtics win, they'll.

1180
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: Be like Elton.

1181
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 10: If I can add once one thing, real quick, real quick,

1182
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,479
Speaker 10: that I think we've left out of this gumbo about

1183
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 10: the Celtics and Bo Bo got close to it, but

1184
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 10: he wouldn't admit it. In that there is the element

1185
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 10: in that a much bigger fan base out there, much

1186
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 10: more popular team in the NBA absolutely loathes the Celtics

1187
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 10: and wants to see them fail at every turn, and

1188
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 10: that that cannot be ignored here, that can absolutely not

1189
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 10: be ignored. That there is a number one and they

1190
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 10: despise number two that is stomping around in the garden.

1191
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: It would be the Los Angeles Lakers, folks. Yes, there

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00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: you go.

1193
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: All right, We've got Rich Ornberger, Penn State All American,

1194
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 3: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

1195
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Speaker 1: I'm Brian. No props to Bob Benson and Chris Prefet

1196
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: huh checking it up. They're very nice. I love it

1197
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: all right.

1198
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Speaker 3: Right around the corner, some contract negotiations have taken quite

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Speaker 3: the interesting turn. Well, have some details for you. It's

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. It

1201
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Speaker 3: is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. So

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott, looking for a big payday Cowboys quarterback, took

1203
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 3: a bit of an interesting turn here during the week.

1204
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: Is commented Cowboys OTAs he said, I don't play for money,

1205
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: have never cared for it, to be honest with you. Nice,

1206
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: come on, and that's a lie, Dak, I love you,

1207
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: but that's a lie. Come on, man, what are we

1208
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: doing this good? That's not a good one.

1209
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 3: Never even really cared for money, to be honest with you.

1210
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 3: That's just not even believable.

1211
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: We know it's just not Yeah, it's just never cared

1212
01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: for it myself. The PR campaign, so people talk about it,

1213
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: I just say, hey, what's the fuss? Gang, That's all

1214
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm not really for making Yeah, yeah, listen, that might

1215
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: be cool for you guys, but like.

1216
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: Now, money it was to be like jewels at the

1217
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 3: end of pulp fiction and Earth.

1218
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: You know, let me tell you something. I I They're

1219
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: I can't even hear this gloat.

1220
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Speaker 4: I I I actually do like Dak Prescott. I think

1221
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 4: that I think that he seems like a good hang.

1222
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 4: He seems like a good dude. I I don't want

1223
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 4: to be overly critical for someone I don't know personally,

1224
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 4: but but I can tell you what I've observed, Like

1225
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 4: this is somebody who will do the thing that NFL

1226
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 4: players do where you know, not all of them, by

1227
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Speaker 4: the way, Like, for example, Jason Kelsey shows up to

1228
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 4: games or had during the course of his career wearing

1229
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 4: flip flops and gray sweatshorts. You know, he didn't he

1230
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 4: didn't do the thing where he's flashing his wealth. Yeah,

1231
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 4: he's wearing the designer suits. Dak Prescott. Now that's a

1232
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 4: guy who's good.

1233
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: Go out there and dress to the nines for every

1234
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: single game.

1235
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 4: Dapper, dapper, Dak okay also Dak also Dak Prescott. Like

1236
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 4: he he he buys the luggage that's like you know

1237
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 4: this yeh luggage set.

1238
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's the same amount as some people spend

1239
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: on cars.

1240
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 4: So when you're the guy who's wearing like the designer

1241
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 4: Armani suit and the guy who's like wearing the like

1242
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes he's wearing designers that people haven't even

1243
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 4: heard of yet because he has a celebrity stylist helping

1244
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 4: him out with his pregame fits, and you're the dude

1245
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 4: who's getting onto the plane with the twenty plus thousand

1246
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 4: dollars piece of luggage and your quote at Otas's money.

1247
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Speaker 1: Never heard of it? Like, okay, Dak, that one rings

1248
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: a little hollow. Yeah again, I have not heard this story.

1249
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 5: I did not hear this, But now that I'm looking

1250
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 5: at some of the interviews, yeah, I mean it could

1251
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 5: have been. It looks like he's joking a little bit

1252
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 5: when he's talking about I mean, I think there's a

1253
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 5: part of this that could be tongue in cheek.

1254
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: No, you you think he is dead panning? Serious? He

1255
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: give it all up? No, no for the month.

1256
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 4: No, no.

1257
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 3: But it's just it's a PR thing. It's a little

1258
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 3: bit like Russell Wilson, right, Like I agree, it's a

1259
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 3: PR thing.

1260
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, it's a PR thing. But I'm okay,

1261
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm okay. I'm never gonna.

1262
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 5: Hammer these guys for listening to their PR people. Maybe

1263
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 5: the PR people are the ones we should be scrutinizing

1264
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 5: because they they and I've been in these meetings with

1265
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Speaker 5: college athletes, but I've been in these meetings before.

1266
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Speaker 1: It's basically like school all over again. Like you are

1267
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: telling the.

1268
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 5: Kids you can say this and nothing else, and like

1269
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 5: then you get up there in front of the microphone

1270
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 5: and you're just scared and you're like repeating back what

1271
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 5: you were told earlier. Now Dak's done this a million times,

1272
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Speaker 5: I would expect him to be a little more suave

1273
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 5: about it, you know, at this stage of his career,

1274
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 5: to be media trained. But this has to be planted

1275
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 5: from someone else in his people, in his PR and

1276
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 5: agent group.

1277
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Speaker 1: As this negotiation is playing out, there is no way

1278
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: it is true.

1279
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Speaker 11: No way.

1280
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Speaker 3: He doesn't care about money. It's a no, it's not

1281
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 3: even believable. That's the whole point is. We get it

1282
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 3: from a PR standpoint. He doesn't want to be known

1283
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 3: as the guy who's the greedy quarterback who's got the

1284
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: cowboys over a barrel and he's gonna take every last

1285
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 3: red cent, you know what I mean.

1286
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: Like, he doesn't want to be known as that guy

1287
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Speaker 1: opposite We would kill him anyways. Like either way he says.

1288
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 5: It, we're gonna kill him, right, but yeah, his money

1289
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 5: hunger were gonna call him for that because he's not

1290
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 5: because he's lying.

1291
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: Well that's true.

1292
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Speaker 3: But if he says I've never cared for money. To

1293
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 3: be honest with you, it's like, bro, that's not even believable.

1294
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 3: But this is to me, the larger discussion is when

1295
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 3: you think about Dak Prescott. He put up numbers, a

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01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 3: career best thirty six touchdown passes last season led the NFL,

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Speaker 3: and yet you know as well as I do, the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys are like, you know, grinding their teeth long term extension.

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Speaker 3: Though the Dolphins are in a similar position with tu

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Speaker 3: a tongue of ilo to put up numbers, and yet

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins are like, that's a heck of a commitment

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Speaker 3: right here, right, And so I think Dak and Tua

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Speaker 3: are similar where you're not racing to the brinks truck

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Speaker 3: to back it up for those guys because the money.

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Speaker 1: Has gotten so huge. Yep.

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Speaker 3: If you don't have a top five guy and you're

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Speaker 3: giving him top five money, that's not putting you in

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Speaker 3: a good position for success.

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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: So here, here's the way I look at quarterbacks, and

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Speaker 4: I think every team would benefit from taking this advice.

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Speaker 1: You can't look at it that way, and I agree

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 4: It's an uncomfortable proposition to pay a guy who's not

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Speaker 4: top five, top five money. I completely agree with that statement. However,

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Speaker 4: we can live in both worlds where just because you're

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Speaker 4: paying a guy top five money doesn't mean that he's

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Speaker 4: a top five quarterback because think about quarterbacks like real estate,

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Speaker 4: like the housing market. There are times where you're going

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Speaker 4: to pay top of the market prices for maybe the

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Speaker 4: tenth best house on that block. It's just because you're

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Speaker 4: buying the neighborhood. Like when you buy you know, Manhattan

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Speaker 4: right off Central Park, or you buy Beverly Hills. You're

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Speaker 4: not buying the place necessarily, you're buying the zip code.

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Speaker 4: So Dak Prescott, is he a top half quarterback in

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Speaker 4: the league?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Are there times where he's a top ten quarterback in

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Speaker 4: the league. The answer is yeah, So you're gonna pay

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Speaker 4: a premium just to be in that zip code. And

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Speaker 4: that's the reason why sometimes guys like a Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 4: you know, like a Kirk Cousins, like you know pretty

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Speaker 4: soon here, maybe a Tua pretty soon here, maybe a

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Speaker 4: brock Purty who you know. There are mixed reviews, mixed

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Speaker 4: thoughts on exactly how much these guys should be paid.

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Speaker 4: Will be paid an absurd amount of money because the

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Speaker 4: estate is really expensive when you're shopping in those zip codes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and talking to someone who used to live on

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Speaker 5: the Upper east Side during the pandemic, I can tell

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Speaker 5: you I was not paying for what I was living in.

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Speaker 1: No, it was a shoebox.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of shoeboxes, I mean relatively speaking, guys, Dak Prescott's

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Speaker 5: basically living on Baltic Avenue. He's only the eleventh highest

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Speaker 5: paid quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And think about that.

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Speaker 3: Jared is eleventh. He's eleventh, and what have the Cowboys done?

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Speaker 2: How far have they?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is also eleventh though, good question.

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Speaker 3: But you understand what I'm saying, is you back up

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Speaker 3: to brins truck even more. It's not like he's made

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Speaker 3: minimum wage. He's made big money, but he's gonna make

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Speaker 3: bigger money. What would make you think the team results

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Speaker 3: are going to change when you have to skimp elsewhere?

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Speaker 5: So the interesting conversation with quarterbacks, I like how Rich

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Speaker 5: played it out like real estate. It really is like

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01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 5: real estate, and you have to ask yourself two questions.

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Speaker 5: Are you buying a house that is ready to live in?

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Speaker 5: Or are you buying a house that still needs work.

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Speaker 5: With Dak still needs work. We need to we need

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Speaker 5: to make sure the offensive line's good. We need to

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Speaker 5: make sure with a guy like Mahomes, it's ready to

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Speaker 5: live in right away. Like you don't need anything else.

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Speaker 5: Clearly they've proven that doesn't matter. Tyreek Hill gone, anything gone.

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Speaker 5: You can live in that house right away. Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 5: I think you feel the same way about that. I

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Speaker 5: think with that you need more. So if you need more,

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Speaker 5: if you need to, if you need to move into

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Speaker 5: the house. And I've never bought a house, thank good,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm ever going to, based on

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Speaker 5: what my sister's currently telling me about her, you know,

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Speaker 5: move in that she's got to fix up.

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Speaker 1: You still got to pump money into it.

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Speaker 5: Like so what you buy, like the price tag of

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Speaker 5: Dak Prescott's forty million dollars salary, that doesn't you can't

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Speaker 5: live in the.

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Speaker 1: House with just that. Like that's the problem.

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Speaker 5: I think that these quarterbacks and these contracts and these

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Speaker 5: teams are running into You're buying these houses on these

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Speaker 5: fantastic streets.

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Speaker 1: But you have to gut them, you have to completely

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Speaker 1: renovate them.

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Speaker 3: You know, put on rich go ahead, you good you get.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's circle back to this in a minute, though.

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Speaker 3: First we want to hear from our guy, Isaac Lohan

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Speaker 3: crawn which again you talk about real estate.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean park place. That's right, boardwalk for I

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Speaker 1: low with the latest year.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it was not a boardwalk with a different spelling.

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Speaker 2: In the playoffs last night, we start in the NBA

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Speaker 2: Game two of the Western Conference Finals and the Dallas

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Speaker 2: Mavericks trailing the Minnesota Timmerwolves by two points in the

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Speaker 2: final seconds. Here was Chuck Cooperstein on k E g

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Speaker 2: L against Colbert was seventh at six.

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Speaker 1: At five, the twait is fast stepping back for the West.

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Speaker 4: Win three seconds to down, tie down Minnesota dodgecs look

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Speaker 4: crossover and the pat that stepped back at the Mavericks

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Speaker 4: has brought one oh.

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Speaker 1: Nine to one away.

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Speaker 2: That was the final. They leave the series two games

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01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: to nine. In Game two of the NHL's Eastern Conference Finals,

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Speaker 2: the New York Rangers and Florida pan Anthers, we're tied

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01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 2: at one in overtime at Madison Square Garden. Here's Don

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01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 2: look Greca on w E p.

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Speaker 9: N Trouper flips it out the center knocked down by

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Speaker 9: a drow fine stroke checks back.

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Speaker 1: Out the Parkley. That's awesome. I love Don McGregor. He

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Speaker 1: was fantastic at his job. The Rakers quitting over time.

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Speaker 2: What the heck you guys want an encore of that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So good.

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Speaker 5: He set some unbelievable radio launch Troke checked back out

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Speaker 5: the Parkley.

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Speaker 1: From zero to one hundred.

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Speaker 5: Wait beyond hit.

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Speaker 1: The We're gonna go to Minnesota, We're gonna go to Iowa.

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Speaker 2: The positive results for New York sports fans continued Friday night,

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Speaker 2: because the Yankees hit four home ones at eight and

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Speaker 2: when at San Diego, they've won ten of twelve. Finally,

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01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 2: fellas in the WNBA. On Friday night, the Indiana Fever

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Speaker 2: got their first win of the season, seventy eight seventy

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Speaker 2: three on the road over the Los Angeles Sparks. Caitlin

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01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 2: Clark two big three pointers down the stretch. She would

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Speaker 2: finish with eleven points, ten rebounds, and eight assists in

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Speaker 2: front of a crowd of nineteen thousand, one hundred and three. Fellas,

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Speaker 2: all yours, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Also, it is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we wanted to circle back real fast to the Dak

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Speaker 3: Prescott conversation. He's looking for a huge contract extension, and

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Speaker 3: I just think this. We all know this first truth,

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Speaker 3: not having a quarterback, your team is screwed. You're not

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Speaker 3: a legitimate super Bowl contender year in and year out.

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Speaker 1: We all know that.

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Speaker 3: Also, overpaying a good quarterback great money, you're still screwed

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Speaker 3: like that. That's the reality, and we don't look at

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Speaker 3: it the same way. But it's absolutely true. When you're

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Speaker 3: overpaying a good quarterback and you have to skimp elsewhere,

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Speaker 3: that good quarterback isn't great enough to compensate for that,

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Speaker 3: and you're not gonna go anywhere. You're not gonna win

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Speaker 3: a championship. That's how it goes. And so I think

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Speaker 3: that's what's really interesting in the NFL. These teams get

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Speaker 3: comfortable and they say, well, we've got a serviceable guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna be overpaying him, but man, what's the alternative?

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01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 3: And what are we gonna do if we don't have

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Speaker 3: a quarterback that's nearly as good as this guy. I

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01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 3: look at two teams, the Chiefs, who were good at

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Speaker 3: quarterback with Alex Smith, and they said, let's try to

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Speaker 3: be great and let's get Mahomes I don't know why

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Speaker 3: more teams don't do that. I know there aren't mahomes

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Speaker 3: growing on trees, but the point is you could be

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Speaker 3: better at quarterback and cheaper at quarterback on the rookie

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Speaker 3: deal than overpaying your good quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why more.

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Speaker 3: Teams don't try to duplicate that, or a team like

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Speaker 3: the Broncos where they say, hey, what's Planned B. We

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Speaker 3: don't know, we'll figure it out. Plan A is not

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson. We'll eat eighty five million dollars and figure

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Speaker 3: it out as we go. But these teams like the Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins, they look and they say, if it's not dak,

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Speaker 3: if it's not to A, then who is it?

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Speaker 1: What's Plan B? And I get that, But I look.

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Speaker 3: At a team like the Broncos who say, well, we

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Speaker 3: know what our Plan A isn't, so let's not waste

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Speaker 3: time going down that road. Let's shift it over here.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know why more teams don't look at

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Speaker 3: it that way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, I I get what you're saying,

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01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 4: but boll but a lot of teams do and and

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Speaker 4: a lot of teams.

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Speaker 1: They get to that point.

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Speaker 4: And trust me, the Cowboys will get to that point

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Speaker 4: with Dak where they say, all right, we've done this

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Speaker 4: too many times and we've had similar results. And that

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Speaker 4: is the definition of insanity when you try something over

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Speaker 4: and over and over again and you're expecting different results,

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Speaker 4: but you keep receiving the same results.

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Speaker 1: And so maybe they do break them off.

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Speaker 4: But Brian, I promise you they're gonna get to a

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01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 4: point as an organization where they say, and we've done it,

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01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 4: and we've done it, and we've done it and it

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01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 4: hasn't yielded us what we were looking for. And so

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01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 4: for that reason, we're starting over. And now we're going

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01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 4: to go back to that real estate market. We were

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01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 4: just talking about that zip code. You're still buying in

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Speaker 4: the same zip code. But now maybe you buy a fixer,

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01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 4: like a complete fixer, like you go into the draft

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01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 4: and you spend very little. Now you're on that block,

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01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 4: but you're buying you're buying a new build.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. All you got are the studs.

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01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 4: You know, we got to put in the electrical, the plumbing,

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01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 4: We got to get a good drywall guy. We need

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01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 4: to get somebody to do the finishing work. Like we're

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01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 4: on the right block. But we need to do a

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01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 4: lot of work with this draft pick. Or maybe you

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01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 4: do what Atlanta did did where you say, okay, that

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01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 4: house down the road, it's always had a nice lawn,

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01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 4: but they haven't really renovated or done much on the inside.

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Speaker 1: They haven't filled it with the right furniture. So maybe

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01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: all we need to do is fill with the right furniture.

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Speaker 4: So Kirk Cousins goes to and he's playing with Drake London,

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Speaker 4: and he's playing with you know, with the kid out

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01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 4: of Texas, the running back, Bijon Robinson, and he's playing

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Speaker 4: with some talented receivers.

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01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 1: Let's see if we could make that happen there.

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01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, Dak Prescott is on the precipice of

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01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 4: making potentially the most money he's ever made in his

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Speaker 4: NFL career, but it also could be the death knell

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Speaker 4: of his starting NFL career if he doesn't make good

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Speaker 4: on this transaction, because the Dallas Cowboys will be signing

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01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 4: up for one big paycheck to get a championship, whether

1510
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 4: that's on the conference side or the Super Bowl, and

1511
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 4: if they don't, they will move off of Dak.

1512
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1513
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 3: Well, hey, man, interesting stuff.

1514
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: For sure.

1515
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 3: It might have a layer if we circle back next hour.

1516
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 3: I have a little layer, little layer, but we are

1517
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: all about clock integrity over here. We got rich ron Berger,

1518
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 3: Penn State, All American. We've got Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst.

1519
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 3: I'm Brian now coming up next some more of that

1520
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 3: betting content that you crave.

1521
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: Huh. Prop it up?

1522
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 3: So many prop bet opportunities, we don't even know where

1523
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 3: to begin. We'll just pick a spot and go from there.

1524
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1525
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1526
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 3: We got some prop bets to make.

1527
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Prop it up.

1528
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 2: Player plays.

1529
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll start with you, Jared. What's on the menu

1530
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 3: for you on this fine Saturday.

1531
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 5: Let's talk about Jason Tatum because we've discussed Boston and

1532
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 5: you know, oh, we don't like them or this and that,

1533
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 5: and I think the reason why they're not as well

1534
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 5: liked as some other championship.

1535
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: Team they don't have that killer instinct.

1536
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 5: And I'm very interested to see how Jason Tatum plays

1537
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 5: tonight because they've got this series by the throat and

1538
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,879
Speaker 5: Boston has kind of let their foot off the gas.

1539
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: In recent history in these situations.

1540
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:54,799
Speaker 5: But we're gonna go under on Jason Tatum's PR points

1541
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 5: plus rebounds plus it says it's a lopper of a

1542
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 5: number forty five and a half. He stayed under this

1543
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 5: in nine out of twelve postseason games. That's a fantastic

1544
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 5: hit rate over seventy five percent basically. And I look

1545
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 5: at the rebounding chances in this series, they're going down.

1546
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 5: The potential assists in this series are going down.

1547
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 10: Now.

1548
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 5: The volume of shooting is up, but it seems like

1549
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 5: Jason isn't doing as many little things in this series

1550
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 5: as he did in prior series, and I think that's making.

1551
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: This PR number a little bit bloated for my likings.

1552
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 5: So we'll go under forty five and a half points,

1553
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 5: rebounds and assists for Jason Tatum. I do think Boston

1554
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 5: maybe a little cruise control tonight with Haliburton Bengo.

1555
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with two pacers who are pacing in

1556
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 4: different directions. Pascal Siakam has had a nice series so far,

1557
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 4: and when I look at his production points wise and

1558
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 4: the line they're giving four points twenty three and a half,

1559
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 4: I'm taking the over here. He's passed that line three

1560
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 4: of the past four games that he's appeared in, and

1561
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 4: so that feels like a hit. Aaron nessmuth, he's been

1562
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 4: ice cold from three point uh. He's got a line

1563
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 4: at one and a half three points made for the

1564
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 4: game against Boston. I'm taking the under. He's he's had

1565
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 4: one game where he's had two three pointers over the

1566
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 4: past five so this feels like a hit as well.

1567
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: So two pacers, different directions.

1568
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 4: Twenty three and a half points taking over on siakam

1569
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 4: taking the under one and a half three pointers made

1570
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:29,560
Speaker 4: on netsmuth.

1571
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going progression to the mean here because Sam

1572
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 3: Hauser of the Celtics is a really good shooter. He

1573
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 3: has not done anything in this series. He's over the

1574
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 3: series from three point territory. So we're getting plus money.

1575
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 3: Get me over one and a half three pointers made

1576
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 3: for Sam Hauser. It's at plus one on bet MGM.

1577
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 3: And I'm also gonna take his point total here it's

1578
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 3: only four and a half Sam Howser. Again, this dude

1579
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 3: is a cold blooded shooter and he couldn't buy one

1580
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 3: in Boston, so on the road, I think he's gonna

1581
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 3: get enough opportunities, and I just don't see the cold

1582
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 3: streak continuing. So I've got Howser making a pair of

1583
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 3: three pointers, and I've got his point total over four.

1584
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: And a half tonight.

1585
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a I'll be honest, this is a

1586
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 5: tough game to bet props with because you have two

1587
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 5: things coming into play. Won the blowout anytime the Celtics

1588
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 5: play a game. The blowout is anytime any NBA games played. Frankly,

1589
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 5: there's always a blowout. But this is a This is

1590
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 5: a high number, right, it's over a set. You don't

1591
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 5: see road favorites of more than seven points in the

1592
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 5: NBA playoffs the Eastern Conference Finals, for crying out loud, like,

1593
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 5: this is a really high number for a road team

1594
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 5: in a postseason game, a late series. And then you

1595
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 5: got the Halliburton thing, like, how do you play Tyres Haliburn?

1596
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 5: And I think the conventional wisdom says under under under,

1597
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 5: you know, sixteen and a half points. They bumped that

1598
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 5: number down. Rebounds, they bumped it down. But my contrarian instinct,

1599
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 5: I remember he was banged up in the Knicks series.

1600
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 5: He came out and you know, made every shot basically,

1601
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 5: so maybe he plays and maybe we're getting a discount

1602
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 5: on Tyre's Halliburton tonight, but we just don't know what

1603
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 5: his hamstring situation is.

1604
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 1: So this is a very tricky game from a proper perspective.

1605
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 4: Hey, really quick as the NBA season's coming to an end,

1606
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 4: w NBA season's getting shot. Yes, I did this at

1607
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 4: the start of the NBA season. I had success, and

1608
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 4: I've been doing it with the WNBA. I'm having success.

1609
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 4: Take the unders on second half point totals. Interesting, So

1610
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 4: with a lot of players, track them, look at them,

1611
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 4: see how they performed in the second half. A lot

1612
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 4: of the early season athletes, they tire out in the

1613
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 4: second half. Their arms, their their legs, and they're un

1614
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 4: They're hitting under their point totals in the second half.

1615
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: Slip Brick with the sharp move there, I've never loved

1616
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: you so much. Oh goodness, I come it up. Neck

1617
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: Day is dead dog. The NCAA don't roll like that

1618
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 1: no more.

1619
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a huge fan of the movie Training

1620
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 3: Day with Denzel Washington. Fantastic movie. That's my most rewatchable

1621
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 3: movie ever.

1622
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 1: I've seen. Training Day.

1623
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 3: I don't even know at least seventy times. I don't

1624
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 3: know how many times been a lot, but I mentioned

1625
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 3: there's a line from that movie where Denzel says that

1626
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 3: day's dead dog.

1627
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: We don't roll like that no more.

1628
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: The NC double A.

1629
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 3: Doesn't roll like that anymore because amateurism, guys, it officially

1630
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 3: died on Thursday.

1631
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: It is dead.

1632
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: So the NC double A and its power conferences, they

1633
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 3: agreed on a settlement that paves the way for schools

1634
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 3: to pay athletes directly. What's happening here, there's this case

1635
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:50,719
Speaker 3: the house versus NC double A, and so the settlement

1636
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 3: it includes two point seventy five billion dollars from the

1637
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 3: NC double A. They're going to pay former student athletes

1638
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:05,560
Speaker 3: from twenty sixteen onward who lost out on those nil opportunities.

1639
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: Right.

1640
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 3: Nil is just a recent thing name, image and likeness

1641
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 3: where players can earn a buck that way, and the

1642
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 3: NC DOUBLEA it's like, oh, shoot, we owe these past

1643
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 3: players we blocked from making money billions of dollars.

1644
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 1: So that's the settlement. And this is the thing.

1645
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 3: It gets into all sorts of like mumbo jumbo and

1646
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 3: maybe legal LEAs. Let's just keep it simple to me. Amateurism,

1647
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 3: it's just a fancy word that really meant the NC

1648
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 3: Double A and the universities they got all the money

1649
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 3: while the players didn't. Right, that's what amateurism means. It

1650
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 3: sounds like, oh, amateurism. It's like no, no, no, it's

1651
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 3: just the schools and the NC DOUBLEA they get all

1652
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 3: the loot. The players who are the product, they get

1653
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 3: none of it. And if you think that makes sense,

1654
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 3: I would absolutely disagree with you. And so this is

1655
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 3: just another step toward players getting a share of what

1656
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 3: they deserve, which I've always been an advocate for. And

1657
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 3: I'll be brutally honest with you, I don't know the

1658
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 3: best system to come up with in terms of splitting

1659
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 3: TV revenue, but there has to be a way to

1660
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 3: do it. If we're looking for if this is a

1661
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 3: piece of pie, like this is a whole pie over here,

1662
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: the players deserve a healthy portion of it, and they

1663
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 3: don't get what they've deserved for far too long. And

1664
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,759
Speaker 3: that's just a gradual process of them getting a bigger

1665
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 3: piece of what they deserve.

1666
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: You nailed it, man.

1667
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 4: Look in this country, in most of the world, if

1668
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 4: something isn't profitable, then it's moved on from you know,

1669
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 4: I mean, don't get me wrong. There are public services,

1670
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 4: and there are things that we do as a world

1671
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,520
Speaker 4: society and certainly in this country that isn't more motivated

1672
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 4: by profit.

1673
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:02,799
Speaker 1: That's motivated by.

1674
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 4: Humanity and the things that you feel like you need

1675
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 4: to do to be an active member of society. But

1676
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 4: the majority of things that people do, the majority of

1677
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 4: motivation is profit. Is whether it's individually to you know,

1678
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 4: uphold a household financially, or if we're talking about corporations

1679
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 4: that make billions of dollars in revenue and profit in

1680
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 4: the case of the NCAA, for decades and decades, they

1681
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 4: have profited off of the back of labor that they

1682
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 4: were not paying for. That is the truth, and it's

1683
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:43,480
Speaker 4: a hard truth, and it's a really difficult set of shades.

1684
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 1: To open up.

1685
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 4: Because the light is blinding, like it really truly, as

1686
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 4: the light as daylight is entering this dark corner of society.

1687
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 4: People are realizing how hard it is to face because

1688
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 4: I'll tell you right now, you could say what you

1689
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 4: want about professionalism in and how there's a lot of

1690
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 4: entitlement around the NBA, but you know what's really said

1691
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 4: when an athlete he tries his hardest in college football,

1692
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 4: and he has some success, right, but he took one

1693
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 4: too many hits to the head, and now he has

1694
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 4: damages that he's going to face for the rest of

1695
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 4: the life. Rest of his life medically, maybe he has

1696
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,759
Speaker 4: CTE and he's dealing with that, and he has depression

1697
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 4: as a result of that, and he can't get the

1698
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 4: help he needs because as an amateur athlete, you're not

1699
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 4: protected by any laws that say that the college you

1700
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 4: played at or the NCAA is responsible.

1701
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: For your healthcare right.

1702
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 4: You're not a part of a union that collectively bargained

1703
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 4: some healthcare for you post career.

1704
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: So there are.

1705
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 4: Tons of student athletes, which is the lie that we've

1706
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 4: been told for all these years. Student athletes free labor

1707
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 4: is the way we should refer to it. Who limped

1708
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:03,520
Speaker 4: away from the sport that they played that generated billions

1709
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 4: with a b of dollars for their university over the

1710
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 4: time that they and their teammates played for these schools,

1711
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 4: and they.

1712
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 1: Don't have anything to show for it.

1713
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 4: And as a matter of fact, they're having a hard

1714
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,600
Speaker 4: time playing with their kids in the backyard because they

1715
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 4: got busted up kneecaps, you know, they're having a hard

1716
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 4: time maybe thinking all the way through and being an

1717
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 4: active member of society because their brains are scrambled from

1718
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 4: taking too many hits on you know, busting the wedge

1719
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 4: on Kickoff twenty years ago. Like like, this is a

1720
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 4: real thing that's happening in society, and it's been overlooked

1721
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 4: for way too long.

1722
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't offer the players perspective, but I have

1723
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 5: worked at two Division one inside the athletic programs, and

1724
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 5: I saw kind of the inner workings, and I can

1725
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 5: tell you one thing there needs to be a bit.

1726
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 5: This is not fair, but this is the way that

1727
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 5: it is, the revenue generating sports and the non revenue

1728
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 5: generating sports. Like I think we move football and basketball

1729
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 5: and even women's basketball these days into separate bucket, and

1730
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 5: those sports, for better or for worse, should be treated

1731
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 5: differently than the other sports.

1732
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying the other athletes don't.

1733
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 5: I mean I traveled with the women's soccer team at

1734
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 5: LaSalle University.

1735
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: I traveled with the baseball team at Florida Atlantic.

1736
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 5: Incredibly successful program, won a ton of conference championships, been

1737
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 5: to the tournament, but they couldn't build a you know,

1738
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 5: million dollar extension to their crappy field because nobody it's

1739
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 5: not a revenue generating sport, and the football team got

1740
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 5: a brand new stadium on campus while in the time

1741
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 5: that I worked there. It's just it's a completely different

1742
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 5: bag of worms. And you know Pandora's box that we're

1743
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,879
Speaker 5: opening now with the revenue generating sports, the gap between

1744
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 5: how much money football brings in and how much money

1745
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 5: every other sport combined brings in, that gap continues to

1746
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 5: get wider, and we're gonna have to kind of put

1747
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 5: foot college football into its own separate bucket. I think

1748
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 5: that really gets governed different lea than every other collegiate sport.

1749
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 5: And maybe that's how we figure it out as we

1750
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,839
Speaker 5: just take football for what it is, which is basically

1751
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 5: semi professional at this point at the college football level,

1752
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 5: and I think everything else maybe can be lumped into

1753
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 5: somewhere different. But men's basketball, football, even women's basketball now

1754
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 5: after the Caitlyn Clark extravaganza, those are revenue generating sports.

1755
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 5: The other ones aren't. They're revenue negatives. They're net negatives

1756
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 5: for the athletic programs, and they're going to be treated

1757
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 5: that way. And I think that's unfortunately this discussion is

1758
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 5: bringing that gap to the forefront and monetizing every sport

1759
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 5: for what it is.

1760
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: No, I totally agree, and.

1761
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 3: I just think that of this in terms of economics, right,

1762
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 3: Like it's just the money that's brought in and then

1763
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 3: you split that up. So if you have a a

1764
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 3: sport that is generating a lot of money, I think

1765
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 3: you deserve a cut of that. If you play a

1766
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 3: sport that's not as popular and you're not generating the money,

1767
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 3: well then you don't deserve a cut of it. You

1768
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 3: deserve whatever the cut is of what you're bringing in.

1769
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 3: That's what I believe. Some will disagree with that, but

1770
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 3: I look at it in terms of a concert. Right

1771
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 3: if there is a really popular band, let's just say,

1772
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 3: and they played this show and it generates all of

1773
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 3: this money, it shouldn't just be the promoter and the

1774
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 3: venue that gets the money. It should be the band

1775
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 3: as well. They should get their cut. That's why all

1776
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 3: these people came in and paid all their money. They

1777
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 3: deserve their cut of it. So whether you're talking about

1778
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 3: college football or the equestrian team or the bowling team

1779
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 3: or whatever, like, whatever you generate, I think you deserve

1780
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 3: a cut of that. Yeah, so I think that's the

1781
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 3: way it's it should work. It's been far too long

1782
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 3: for it to come to that, But I just think

1783
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 3: it's it's crazy when you look back on it, I

1784
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 3: think you just get used to things instead of thinking

1785
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 3: them through. Where it's just been We've been so used

1786
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 3: to this amateurism quote unquote, like day and age in

1787
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 3: college sports, where if you stop and think about that,

1788
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 3: do you think it makes sense? Like again, Taylor Swift,

1789
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 3: she goes on tour, she has a concert. It generates

1790
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:22,560
Speaker 3: so much money. And we lived with the NCAA in

1791
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 3: an era where it'd be like Taylor Swift. She doesn't

1792
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 3: get any money, but she could, you know, sell some

1793
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 3: t shirts and make a buck that way, a name

1794
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 3: imagen like this.

1795
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 1: It's like how a meal at the concert? You get

1796
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: a free meal at the concert? How does that make

1797
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 1: Eddie sense? Whatsoever?

1798
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 3: Wasn't or think if it changed in the NFL where

1799
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 3: they said, hey, it's super popular, the ratings are off

1800
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:44,759
Speaker 3: the charts.

1801
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: It's generating billions of dollars.

1802
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 3: The players just aren't gonna get paid, but they can

1803
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 3: make a buck off name, image and likeness we'd be like,

1804
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 3: that's the dumbest thing ever. But we just got used

1805
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 3: to it in college sports, and a lot of people

1806
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 3: just never thought it.

1807
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 1: Through, right right, I mean, you've got it nailed.

1808
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 4: Here's the reality of this situation college athletes. If they

1809
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:11,839
Speaker 4: and I'm talking about in the profitable sports, mainly college

1810
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 4: basketball on the men's side, college football, say all the

1811
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 4: money that was generated from these television broadcast contracts and

1812
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 4: from the name, image and likeness, imagine all the money

1813
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 4: went only to the players, like the one hundred or

1814
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 4: so on each Division one roster, you know, the whatever

1815
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 4: it is, the twelve or fifteen on all of the

1816
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,600
Speaker 4: three hundred Division one rosters in college basketball on the

1817
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 4: men's side, say all of the money was put in

1818
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:45,680
Speaker 4: the players' pockets. People would be outraged. They would be like,

1819
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 4: the liberal arts college is falling apart, Like literally, pieces

1820
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 4: of the ceiling are landing on the laps of the

1821
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 4: students trying to learn at these universities where these football

1822
01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 4: players and basketball players are making hundreds of mill if

1823
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 4: not billions of dollars.

1824
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: It's hand over fist. They're making all this money.

1825
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 4: They're solely profiting off of this great place that they've

1826
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 4: been given to play these games.

1827
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 1: Why aren't these universities getting any of this money?

1828
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 4: That should be the argument for the players, because if

1829
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 4: you're not paying attention, the players haven't been paid a

1830
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 4: single dime. They haven't gotten a single cut outside of

1831
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 4: grant money from the federal government. If your parents don't

1832
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,640
Speaker 4: make enough loot and you're going to a school on

1833
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 4: scholarship and you can't afford to buy yourself toilet paper

1834
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 4: or pay.

1835
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,719
Speaker 1: Your rent, like that's the truth.

1836
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 4: And that's how it's been for decades and decades, And

1837
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 4: like you said, Brian, I think people just got used

1838
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 4: to it and they went, well, that's what amateurism looks like.

1839
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 4: It's for the experience, it's for the education, and it's like, yeah,

1840
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 4: but when there's billions of dollars being made off of

1841
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 4: the free labor of these quote unquote students while they're

1842
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 4: participating in the athletic programs, you don't think it's even

1843
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 4: slightly unfair that they don't see a dime. I'm glad

1844
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,799
Speaker 4: that this paradigm is shifting because it is stomach turning

1845
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 4: that people in this country, who the majority of football fans,

1846
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 4: thrive in their own personal professional lives. Can't see how

1847
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 4: inequitable this situation and the circumstance was for the players.

1848
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 5: Let's call it what it is. It's propaganda. It's NCUBLEA propaganda.

1849
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 5: That's what amateurism always was. It was a way for

1850
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 5: the NCUBLEA to make it seem appealing that they're getting

1851
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 5: the better end of the deal.

1852
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 1: I have been and we've talked about it on this show.

1853
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 5: We've talked about how to fix college footba blah blah

1854
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 5: blah with the NCUBLEA, and I talked about how conferences

1855
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 5: are irrelevant and the nc DOUBLEA is irrelevant. The only

1856
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 5: thing that matters are the teams and the coaches. Those

1857
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 5: are the things that are the most important thing. Those

1858
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 5: are the players and the coaches and the programs. The

1859
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 5: conferences are ways to control that. The nc DOUBLEA is

1860
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 5: an entity put in place to control to govern it.

1861
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 5: But the governing body turned into the financial body, and

1862
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 5: that's where you have the problem separation of church and state.

1863
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,799
Speaker 5: The people governing the sport should not also be reaping

1864
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 5: the benefits the most.

1865
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 1: It should be right.

1866
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 5: That's why the government officials don't make a whole lot

1867
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 5: of money now they make money in other ways, and

1868
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 5: I'm not going to get into that, but their salary

1869
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:26,560
Speaker 5: is relatively low considering what an average American salary is

1870
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 5: considering the power.

1871
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 1: That they have.

1872
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 5: But I think that was the biggest issue for me

1873
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 5: was the NCAA was putting a wrapper around what amateurism

1874
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 5: really was. And once the money became too much, like

1875
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 5: the money started overflowing over the sides of their coffers,

1876
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 5: they couldn't hide it anymore. It was so much money

1877
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 5: from the TV deals and the college football playoffs and

1878
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 5: all of this stuff. It just they just couldn't control

1879
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 5: it anymore. And eventually it became uncontrollable. And now you're

1880
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 5: seeing all the little lawsuits and Dartmouth doing their thing

1881
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 5: with you know, the unionizing, and now it's turned into

1882
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 5: basically pay for play, and I think that's what it

1883
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:09,560
Speaker 5: should be. Says a salary cap. That is to me,

1884
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:11,560
Speaker 5: the only way to control this now is to have

1885
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 5: every team under a salary cap. Every player can get this,

1886
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 5: and it's the programs. It's the general managers of each

1887
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 5: respective program, whoever that person is deciding how much each

1888
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 5: player gets paid. The NCABLEA is completely meaningless. Any I

1889
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 5: think the only reason the NCAA will exist in thirty

1890
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 5: years is for like the Division two and Division threes. Like,

1891
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 5: it's just it's a toothless organization now because they can't

1892
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 5: control the money. It's funny, man, when you were saying that, Jared,

1893
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 5: have you seen the movie American made with Tom Cruise.

1894
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: No, but it sounds good. It's pretty good. You probably

1895
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 1: like it.

1896
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 3: But there's a scene where he's just got money every year,

1897
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 3: like he's burying it basically in the backyard. And to

1898
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 3: do that's what the NCAA had. It's a funny visual

1899
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 3: right there. All right, We've got rich oron Berger Penn

1900
01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 3: State All American, Jared Smith FSR BET analyst on Brian No.

1901
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: Coming up next.

1902
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 3: Is slimming down a smart move for this guy. It's

1903
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. It

1904
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 3: is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1905
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 3: So we've got Lamar Jackson Baltimore, Baltimore Ravens quarterback here.

1906
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 3: He has lost a significant amount of weight.

1907
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 1: I love this. Lamar said he's down.

1908
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 3: Well, a source said he's down at least ten pounds

1909
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 3: from the end of last season. But you look at

1910
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 3: the pictures and it's it's considerable. It's a big difference.

1911
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: Now.

1912
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:39,520
Speaker 3: I love this, Lamar said during the week at OTA's

1913
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 3: he said, I don't really know how many pounds I lost.

1914
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 3: I'm like two hundred and something right now, which I

1915
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 3: absolutely love. Was like, was he a hundred something or

1916
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 3: three hundred something before? Because that tells us absolutely nothing

1917
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 3: that he's down to two hundred something right now. But

1918
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 3: he says, I'll say it was important enough to be

1919
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 3: able to move around a little bit extra, that's all.

1920
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Is this a smart move? I say, no.

1921
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 3: Have you ever watched Lamar Jackson and said, man, he's

1922
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 3: got to move around a little bit more.

1923
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 10: Right.

1924
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 3: The question with Lamar has been durability, and I think

1925
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:29,560
Speaker 3: the extra bulk helped him in terms of durability, But

1926
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 3: slimming down to be able to move around a little

1927
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 3: bit more, that's never been the weakness or the drawback

1928
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 3: in Lamar's game.

1929
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 4: You know, I've I've changed my mind on adding weight

1930
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 4: to prevent injury.

1931
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 1: I really have. I show for years and Brian, I'm

1932
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 1: not like, you know, this is just my own opinion.

1933
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:55,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, So for years I subscribed to that newsletter, Like,

1934
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 4: all right, if you want to be a little bit

1935
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 4: more sturdy against some of the contact in the NFL,

1936
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 4: you ought to add some weight. But adding weight for

1937
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 4: the sake of adding it, like even if it's some

1938
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 4: healthy muscular weight that comes obviously with the cost of

1939
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 4: gaining some fat as well. That's all well and good

1940
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 4: as long as your tendons and your ligaments can handle it.

1941
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 4: And also is also like from a standpoint of like

1942
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 4: your ability to.

1943
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 1: Operate in space. Like so we think about an athlete,

1944
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:28,879
Speaker 1: and we think about.

1945
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 4: How strong he is, how fast he runs, how high

1946
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 4: he jumps, how far he throws the football, and how

1947
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:36,639
Speaker 4: well he can take a hit, But we don't often

1948
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 4: talk about like appropriateception, like his awareness in space, Like

1949
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 4: how like how a boxer if they were standing in

1950
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 4: the room with us right now, like Floyd Mayweather, like

1951
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 4: he could throw a punch and have it miss our

1952
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 4: nose by a fraction of an inch because he understands

1953
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 4: his arm length so incredibly well that when he throws

1954
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,600
Speaker 4: a punch, he knows exactly where it's going to be,

1955
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 4: where his fist is in space at all times.

1956
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 1: Now, when you start messing with your weight gaining weight

1957
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: losing weight.

1958
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 4: When you start adding weight, maybe for the thought process like, well,

1959
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 4: I'm going to be more injury prone if I'm lighter. Well,

1960
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 4: maybe you're more injury prone if you're heavier, because by

1961
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 4: adding fifteen pounds in an offseason, you've thrown off your appropriateception,

1962
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,759
Speaker 4: so you don't have a good awareness of your body

1963
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 4: in space. And when you try to come to that stop,

1964
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 4: you know where you used to be able to cut

1965
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 4: on a dime.

1966
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it takes an extra step, Maybe it takes a little.

1967
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 4: Bit more strength to slow down your quadriteps and then

1968
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 4: that energy transfers to your acl when you're trying to

1969
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 4: turn out of a break and then boom, you snap

1970
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 4: a ligament and your season's over. So I've switched my

1971
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:53,599
Speaker 4: mind about this, Like I've I'm starting to believe more

1972
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 4: should you should be in the most comfortable space you

1973
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 4: can be as an athlete to have the highest level

1974
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 4: of ability.

1975
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,560
Speaker 1: And injury prevention on the field. Yeah, kind of like

1976
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 1: your body, your choice kind of feel yeah a little bit. Yeah,

1977
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 1: like that makes sense to me.

1978
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 5: I've never again, I've never been a professional athlete. I've

1979
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 5: never conditioned my body in that way.

1980
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 1: But I can say this.

1981
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 5: In the last year, I've lost almost fifty pounds, so

1982
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 5: I have a good sense of how different my body

1983
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 5: feels minus the weight. And I'll tell you what everything

1984
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 5: is better, like how I feel walking up the stairs,

1985
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 5: how I feel doing anything is better, and that I

1986
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 5: was a little bit overweight, whereas Lamar wasn't. But I

1987
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 5: do think being healthy and fit is a state of

1988
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 5: mind as much as it is a body type. And

1989
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 5: if he is obviously weaker in certain areas, it could

1990
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:52,560
Speaker 5: come into like, it could come into play in a

1991
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 5: negative way. But I do think if and to it.

1992
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 5: By the way, speaking of this, Brian too has lost

1993
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 5: a bunch of weight too. Yeah, and we're gonna find out,

1994
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 5: because let's be honest, both of those guys, if you

1995
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 5: were gonna ask me, you're right, like you know, both

1996
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 5: of those.

1997
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 1: Guys probably the injuries. You know, you want to be

1998
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:08,919
Speaker 1: a little bulkier.

1999
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 5: But I don't know enough about the way these guys

2000
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 5: train or the way that really the modern fitness regime

2001
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 5: has kind of evolved to really speak from an educational

2002
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 5: perspective on whether or not they are more injury prone

2003
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 5: minus the weight. I honestly don't know. I do think

2004
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:27,600
Speaker 5: it's more of a state of mind and more of

2005
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:31,639
Speaker 5: a do you feel fit? Do you feel healthy? If

2006
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 5: you do, and this is what the doctors say, and

2007
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:36,759
Speaker 5: you know, you're around a lot of nutritionists and fitness

2008
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 5: people all the time, and they're saying this is positive

2009
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 5: for you.

2010
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 1: I can't like who am I to say that it's

2011
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 1: not well.

2012
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 3: I think that if we're being fair about this, I

2013
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 3: think that staying healthy for Lamar and for Tua, it's

2014
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 3: less about weight and it's more.

2015
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 1: So about decision making.

2016
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 3: Agreed, right, That's the first part of it with Lamar.

2017
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 3: Lamar has taken we all know, way too many chances

2018
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 3: running the football. I love the ability that he has,

2019
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 3: but at some point it's like, hey man, you've scrambled

2020
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 3: for twenty five yards. Don't try to bowl over the

2021
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 3: strong safety. You know, slide, get out of bounds, that

2022
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 3: sort of thing. With Tua, it was just getting rid

2023
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 3: of the freaking ball. He would hold onto the ball

2024
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 3: way too long. That famous hit against the Bills where

2025
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 3: he got knocked backward and was stumbling around and they

2026
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 3: said it was a back injury.

2027
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 1: He's just holding onto the ball way too long.

2028
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 3: It happened time and time again two years ago when

2029
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 3: he suffered all those concussions, all those injuries. So I

2030
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 3: think it's more so about decision making than it is weight.

2031
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,879
Speaker 3: But it's just strange to me. Where Lamar played sixteen

2032
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 3: games last season, right Tua played seventeen, and they were

2033
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 3: both bulked up, and now on the heels of that,

2034
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,680
Speaker 3: they're like, now we're slimming down. It's like you just

2035
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 3: had success bulking up, So I question the decision to

2036
01:42:58,560 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 3: slim down like that.

2037
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:02,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's interesting. I'm very curious to see what

2038
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 4: happens as a result. And look, luck plays a factor,

2039
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 4: and like you said, decision making plays a factor. To

2040
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 4: have the unfortunate reality of holding onto the ball a

2041
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 4: little too long on that play. By the way, he

2042
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 4: held onto the ball too long on a lot of plays,

2043
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:20,840
Speaker 4: so he got unlucky. He ended up with a concussion.

2044
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 4: And same with some of the injuries from Lamar Jackson.

2045
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 4: It's like you can't control it. Maybe you're already in

2046
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 4: the embrace of a tackler and then all of a sudden,

2047
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 4: somebody jumps on the back of your legs. You know,

2048
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 4: whether you're you know, fifteen pounds heavy or fifteen pounds lighter.

2049
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 4: It's not going to matter in those circumstances. So everything

2050
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 4: is circumstantial. But I remember leaving college there was this

2051
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 4: big push to gain weight because I was a slightly

2052
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 4: undersized interior offensive lineman. My playing weight was like between

2053
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 4: two ninety and two ninety five as a as a

2054
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 4: starting left guard at Penn State. And I remember my

2055
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 4: agent and many of the scouts from the NFL who

2056
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 4: visited me during my pro day or on visits to

2057
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 4: different facilities during the pre draft process, said hey, it

2058
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 4: would be good if you put on a couple pounds,

2059
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 4: and so I did you know, I was up to

2060
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 4: three h five I think by the time I was drafted,

2061
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 4: which is about ten or fifteen pounds heavier than I

2062
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 4: really liked the play at. Now, I don't know if

2063
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 4: it necessarily had any impact on me, you know, when

2064
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 4: I got to the NFL and I started playing. But

2065
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 4: I can tell you this, within the first couple of

2066
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 4: days of being at training camp practice with the Patriots,

2067
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 4: my weight dropped right back down to two ninety It's

2068
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 4: almost like my body was like, no, dude, like you're

2069
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 4: not three hundred five pounds. You're just not like we're

2070
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,719
Speaker 4: going to play at the weight that you've had success

2071
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 4: at and we're just gonna keep rock and rolling right here.

2072
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 4: And by the way it was, it was good, Like,

2073
01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 4: you know, I felt like I could move better. I

2074
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 4: didn't feel like I was plotting around. You know. Offensive

2075
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 4: line obviously very different than quarterback. The athleticism of Lamar

2076
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 4: Jackson very different from an interior offensive guard or offensive

2077
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 4: lineman in the NFL.

2078
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 1: But you get my point, Like an.

2079
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 4: Athlete knows his body or her body, and sometimes weight

2080
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:18,719
Speaker 4: is just the number.

2081
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 1: We get too hung up on is he healthy?

2082
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:24,640
Speaker 4: Like that's the most important thing everybody should be concentrating on.

2083
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 4: And a lot of times, even with coaches, even with trainers,

2084
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 4: their concentration is on, well what do you weigh?

2085
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 1: And it really it's kind of arbitrary when you think

2086
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 1: about it.

2087
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 5: I think that's why the Guerrero stuff with Brady was

2088
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 5: so interesting, because I mean that was such a big

2089
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:42,640
Speaker 5: reason that he was able to stay health so productive,

2090
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 5: you know, at the back of his career, was because

2091
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 5: about how fit he was. And I think modern fitness,

2092
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 5: it's always fascinating to see the modern athletes and how

2093
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:55,559
Speaker 5: fit they are, and then compare it to what we.

2094
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 1: Saw back in the day.

2095
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:59,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, these guys are like got a hogy hanging out

2096
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 5: of their mouth, and you know, like it's just it's

2097
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 5: a it's a complete Like the fitness element of today's

2098
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 5: sports is so different, which.

2099
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,679
Speaker 1: By the way, I kind of wish I played back.

2100
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 5: You remember the wrong time, You're your seventies throwback, like

2101
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 5: you want the the mutton chops and the beer belly

2102
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 5: hanging out over your football, smoking in the locker room

2103
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:26,600
Speaker 5: in the Replacements and that guy's smoking on.

2104
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: The field like in the movie The Replacements. Like, yeah,

2105
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 1: like that was my pregame meal was a burrito in

2106
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 1: a pack of Winston's. It's interesting to hear some of.

2107
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:38,600
Speaker 5: These guys their fitness forchi, Like, remember that was a

2108
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 5: big thing for I think it was I think it

2109
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 5: might have been Orlando Hernandez, the of the Yankees, Yeah,

2110
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 5: when he came over for Oh no, it was Levon

2111
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 5: Hernandez of the mart I remember watching the Hernandez Brothers

2112
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 5: thirty for thirty. I remember one of them really struggled

2113
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 5: with his diet when he first came over from Cuba,

2114
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:55,679
Speaker 5: because you come from Cuba and it's like you're eating

2115
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:57,799
Speaker 5: rats on the street, and then you come to Miami

2116
01:46:57,800 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 5: and it's like McDonald's and fast food and now all

2117
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 5: this money, and.

2118
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:02,639
Speaker 1: That's a thing. Now.

2119
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 5: Obviously we're talking about a player that's Lamar Jackson. It's

2120
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:06,639
Speaker 5: been in the league, been in America for a long time.

2121
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,680
Speaker 5: He doesn't have those the same indulgences. But it's just

2122
01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 5: it's interesting to see how the fitness element of sports

2123
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 5: has changed so much. These guys are literally machines with

2124
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 5: their body, and not all of them treat their bodies

2125
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,799
Speaker 5: like temples. I think later on in certain players' careers

2126
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,640
Speaker 5: they up their fitness regime to keep their bodies sustaining

2127
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 5: that element.

2128
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 1: But man, it's I here's here's what I'll close it with.

2129
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:34,040
Speaker 5: I applaud whether or not it works out or not

2130
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:36,640
Speaker 5: for them, and maybe they're more prone to injuries. I

2131
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 5: applaud guys like Lamar Jackson and Tua. Obviously this was

2132
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 5: a plan. It wasn't like he just lost weight, Like

2133
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 5: there was.

2134
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 1: A plan to do this.

2135
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 5: I respect the commitment in the off season to keeping

2136
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 5: their bodies in what they view to be the highest

2137
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 5: peak shape.

2138
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 3: Well, you speak about the highest peak shape for an NFL.

2139
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 1: But here we go. I mean, what about update anchors.

2140
01:47:58,800 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2141
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 3: I know the guy at the top of the freaking list,

2142
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 3: he goes by the name of Isaac lo Oh and Kron.

2143
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 3: Don't even try to take him on in the decathlon.

2144
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:11,599
Speaker 3: You will lose every single freaking time.

2145
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:12,799
Speaker 1: He's here with the latest.

2146
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 2: Indeed, Brian and along those lines, the latest is we

2147
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:19,599
Speaker 2: had history just made moments ago. As for the first

2148
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 2: time in the history of the medium of sports talk radio,

2149
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:29,559
Speaker 2: the word pro preception was spoken by Fox Sports Radios

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Speaker 2: Rich Ornberger and also sets a record for the most

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Speaker 2: syllabic word utilized sports talk radio history at five the

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Speaker 2: previous record when a host in Dallas said, Dak Prescott

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Speaker 2: sucks really quickly. We have sports. Unfortunately, I'm not making

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Speaker 2: any of that.

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Speaker 1: Up, is it Jerry Jones? Oh good?

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Speaker 2: Actually, we have a library. We have a live reaction

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Speaker 2: from Yeah, there is Jerry Jones not amused. We do

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01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 2: have live sports going on right now. The FA Cup

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01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 2: Final at Wembley. Manchester United remains up two to nothing

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01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 2: over Manchester City. They're now in the seventy eighth minute

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Speaker 2: in Game two of the NBA's Western Conference Finals on

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01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 2: Friday night, the Dallas Mavericks trail the Minnesota Timberwolves by

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01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:24,560
Speaker 2: two in the dying seconds. Here was Kevin Harlan on

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Speaker 2: tnt JE.

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Speaker 12: Rose Tonchis gons st Dallas is twok of the lead.

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Speaker 2: And the game one oh nine to one O eight.

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01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 2: They lead the series two games tonight. In Game two

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Speaker 2: of the NHL's Eastern Conference Finals on Friday night, the

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01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 2: New York Rangers and Florida Panthers tied at one in overtime.

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Speaker 2: Here's Don Lagreca on w EPN.

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01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:52,800
Speaker 1: Trouper flips it.

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Speaker 9: Out the center, knocked down by gadro Fintrocheck. I got

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01:49:56,360 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 9: the partly goron, partly good time as the riker's quitting

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Speaker 9: over time.

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Speaker 6: To the on.

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Speaker 2: On a related note, the goal allowed us to discover

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Speaker 2: the surprising comedic stylings of Florida Panthers head coach Paul

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01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 2: mo Reice. Listen to him here during the postgame news

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Speaker 2: conference as he discusses Madison Square Gardens confusing hallway set up.

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Speaker 8: Paul, did you when you looked at the goal?

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Speaker 11: I mean he was just a good shot.

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Speaker 13: You don't want I haven't seen it yet because I

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01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 13: don't know if you've been to the maze down here,

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01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 13: but our video guy is three zip quodes away from

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Speaker 13: our locker room because somebody needed.

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Speaker 1: Popcorn in the spurts of room over here, so we.

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Speaker 13: Got Yeah, I haven't seen it. I haven't seen my

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01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 13: video guy. I'm not sure he still works for us,

2189
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 13: so I truly have not seen the goal because we

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01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 13: have to send out telegram.

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Speaker 2: Paul Maurice two shows nightly at the Highla Hilton back

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Speaker 2: for more preception talk. That's all yours, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I want to circle back real fast.

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Speaker 3: We were talking about Dak Prescott and he's looking for

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01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 3: a big payday while saying he's never cared about money,

2204
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:38,480
Speaker 3: but it got me thinking about paying a good quarterback

2205
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 3: great money. Where I don't think that's a great way

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01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 3: to go about it. And if you think about the

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01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 3: Dolphins paying to the Cowboys paying Dak, one of the

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01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 3: arguments against that happening is look at what a young

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Speaker 3: quarterback would have to work with. You know, like we

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01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 3: spend all this time talking about Purdy and all the

2211
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:06,520
Speaker 3: talent he has around him, that system with Kyle Shanahan.

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01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 3: Look at the Dolphins. You've got Tyreek Hill, You've got

2213
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:15,839
Speaker 3: Jalen Waddle, You've got a collection of fast running backs.

2214
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 3: You know, you've got Mike McDaniel's system. I think the

2215
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:24,360
Speaker 3: question becomes is our quarterback good or is he special?

2216
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 3: And if you look at Dak and you look at

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01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 3: Tua and you say they're good, and you're like, are

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01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 3: we gonna pay them special money? That's where it becomes

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01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 3: real tricky. And so I think the argument of if

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01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:39,679
Speaker 3: you're looking to replace them and go cheap with the rookie, yeah,

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01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 3: I know that's a really sketchy feeling, and you're gritting

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01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 3: your teeth is this is what we're gonna do. But

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01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 3: I think that's one of the main arguments to make

2224
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 3: is they're not going to a system where there's no

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01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:55,840
Speaker 3: talent around him. There's not a great play caller like

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01:52:56,280 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 3: you would have legitimate fits for young quarterback to be

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01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 3: serviceable at best, as I think that would be the

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01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 3: flip side of I'll put it this way. I have

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01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 3: a Nissan Ultima. It's a nice car. I'm not gonna

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01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 3: pay one hundred thousand dollars for it because it's a

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01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 3: bad investment.

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01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 1: It's a good car, it's not special, right, It's not

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01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:19,599
Speaker 1: an elite sports car.

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01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 3: So if you're paying one hundred k for it, it's

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01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 3: not a good investment.

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01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 1: And the same concept can hold true with quarterbacks. I

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01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 1: completely understand your argument.

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01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 4: But what you're talking about is a risk assessment, right,

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01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 4: So what's the risk of doing what you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: The risk is if it goes bust, Well, you may

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01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 4: put yourself in a situation where you may not be

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01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 4: overpaying a quarterback, but you're also trending downward for years

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01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 4: and years to follow that one decision, which is to

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01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 4: move on from Dak, to make a youth movement at

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01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 4: his position, and to basically hit the reset button with

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01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 4: all the things you said, having some talent, some speed

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01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 4: around the offense, having some stable coaching, all those things.

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01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 4: Sometimes it doesn't matter because the guy you bring in

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01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 4: who you think is special doesn't turn out to be

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01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 4: special either. You know, in fact, you find out he's

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01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 4: not even as good as Dak. So that's the risk.

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01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:24,200
Speaker 4: So you put that into the equation. It changes the conversation.

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01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 4: And that's the reason why the Dallas Cowboys and a

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01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 4: lot of franchises are slow to pull the trigger on

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Speaker 4: making that decision because it's an enormous risk evaluation. Yeah,

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01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 4: it seems easy for us sitting here, you know, in

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01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 4: a studio or at home broadcasting and saying, geez, you know, Dallas,

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01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 4: isn't it getting stale with Dak? You know, going to

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01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 4: the playoffs after twelve win seasons and losing in the

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01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:50,320
Speaker 4: opening round or losing in the divisional round, Like, isn't

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01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 4: that Isn't that annoying for fans and for the franchise.

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01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 4: It's like, well, yes, of course it is. But you know,

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01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 4: it would be worse having four years of trying to

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01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 4: recover from betting the farm on a young talent who

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01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 4: might be special but it turns out he wasn't, and

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01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 4: then you know, suffering the consequences of all that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. The

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01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 5: quarterback position like a lot of it too. It's it's

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01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 5: not about paying the player, it's about the market. Like

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01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 5: the market for quarterbacks right now. We saw this in

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01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:29,320
Speaker 5: the NBA, like average players off the bench getting twenty

2272
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 5: million dollars because it's just what the market is calling

2273
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 5: for today and we have to raise our baseline for

2274
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 5: the average quarterback for us.

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01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:42,720
Speaker 1: It sounds like an astronomical amount of money.

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01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones getting forty million dollars a year, but that's

2277
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 5: kind of the going rate, Like he's eleventh on the

2278
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 5: list of quarterback salaries, Like that's kind of average. Like

2279
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 5: it's just unfortunately, we have to kind of readjust our

2280
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 5: way of thinking to make it relative to what the

2281
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 5: market is telling us right now for these players.

2282
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 1: All right, we've got Jared Smith. That was the voice

2283
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 1: you just heard.

2284
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 3: FSR betting analyst Rich Ornberger Penn State, All American felt

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01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 3: to ninety.

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01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you down to now? Rich? I'm in

2287
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 1: the two seventies. I haven't been on a scale a

2288
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 1: little bit, but you're looking good. Rich, Thank you. By

2289
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 1: safe to you you were talking about the way loss

2290
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 1: dude you are, I mean, I have a six pack

2291
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 1: right now. I'm not trying.

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01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 3: I'm Brian though. All right, coming up next, rapid Fire.

2293
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:32,120
Speaker 3: We got some picks to make. We'll compare notes right

2294
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 3: around the corner. It's Fox Sports Saturday. Here on Fox

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01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 3: Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. Props to the crew are trusted producer

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Speaker 3: Bo Benson, Chris Purfet, technical producer Isaac Lowenkron crushing the

2298
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 3: updates and crushing life. Top of the hour up on game,

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01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:57,120
Speaker 3: LeVar Arrington, TJ Hushman, Zada, Plaxico, Burris. They have got

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01:56:57,200 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 3: you covered. Keep it locked right here on FSR. All right,

2301
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 3: we got some picks to make.

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01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Rapid Fire. All right, Jared, we'll start

2303
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 1: with you.

2304
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 4: What do you like.

2305
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 5: Let's start with a couple of nerfees, And unlike the

2306
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 5: ones I gave you earlier, these are full games, the

2307
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 5: actual game themselves, just no run in the first inning.

2308
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 5: Let's start with the Blue Jays and the Tigers. This

2309
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 5: is like an epic nerfy streak. Detroit fifteen straight games

2310
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:24,640
Speaker 5: without scoring a run in the first inning. They haven't

2311
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 5: scored in the early going since May seventh. Toronto, Well

2312
01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 5: do you one better. Sixteen straight games. They haven't scored

2313
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 5: a run in the first inning since May fourth. Not

2314
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,560
Speaker 5: a bad pitching matchup today, Jose Burrios on one side.

2315
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:39,440
Speaker 5: Resulson's actually been really good for Detroit. On the other side,

2316
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 5: Finally Royal's raised the other Nerfey I really like today.

2317
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:45,320
Speaker 5: A little later this afternoon in Tampa, Brady Singer's been

2318
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:47,320
Speaker 5: great for Kansas City. Kansas City is an upstart team

2319
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 5: this year, look out for them. But Brady Singer's nine

2320
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 5: to one to the Nerfy love his stuff in the

2321
01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 5: first inning. And Aaron Sabali. The overall numbers haven't been good,

2322
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 5: but the first inning numbers, especially at home five and

2323
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 5: OHO the Nerfey forty percent strikeout rate in the open frame.

2324
01:58:00,400 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 1: Love those two.

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01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:04,360
Speaker 5: Nerfe's finally a little puck luck tonight maybe for the

2326
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 5: Dallas Stars. I love the trend game two. After the

2327
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 5: home team loses Game one, they're favored again in Game two,

2328
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 5: the line moving in their direction. I think Dallas even

2329
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 5: the series tonight against the Oilers. They win, it will

2330
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 5: take them on the money line. So Blue Jays, Tiger's

2331
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:20,920
Speaker 5: Nerfy Royals, Ray's Nerfy.

2332
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 3: Stars on the money line on the ice.

2333
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna go to baseball with all of

2334
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 4: mine picks here. I'm gonna give you a little same

2335
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 4: game parlay action. Yanks visiting San Diego. I got New

2336
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 4: York plus one and a half on the run line.

2337
01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 4: New York is going to dominate this series. If you've

2338
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 4: been paying attention to the Padres at all this year,

2339
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 4: it's positive and negative.

2340
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 1: It's it's checkling high.

2341
01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 4: So they have two winning series in a road on

2342
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 4: the road, and they come home to face the Yankees.

2343
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 4: They're gonna get beat up here. And Dylan ceases on

2344
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 4: the mound for the Padres. So I'm gonna take the URFI.

2345
01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:00,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the yes run first inning. And it's

2346
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 4: mainly gonna be the hot batch of the Yankees carry

2347
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 4: over from last night into tonight. So plus one and

2348
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:08,480
Speaker 4: a half on the run line for the Yanks and

2349
01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 4: a yes run first inning for the game. Also, Los

2350
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 4: Angeles Dodgers on the road at Cincinnati. I watched the

2351
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:18,160
Speaker 4: red series against the Padres. I think the I think

2352
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 4: the Dodgers bats are going to have a pretty easy

2353
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 4: time with this pitcher matchup. They got Bueller on the mound,

2354
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:27,640
Speaker 4: I'm taking the Dodgers minus one and.

2355
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 1: A half on the run line.

2356
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So I am feeling the Kansas City

2357
01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 3: Royals today. I got them just winning out right minus

2358
01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 3: one ten. You lighted this Jared with Brady Singer on

2359
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 3: the mound. They've been playing very well and they've been

2360
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 3: scoring a lot of runs. I'm gonna take their individual

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01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:51,160
Speaker 3: team total over three and a half runs, two separate picks. Wow,

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01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 3: double royal. Yes, we're doubling down on the Royals. I'm

2363
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:56,920
Speaker 3: doubling down on Sam Hawser. I'm doubling down on the

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01:59:57,040 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 3: Kansas City Royals. And I'm also gonna go with Minnesota Timberwolves.

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02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:03,680
Speaker 3: Get me a plus three and a half. They're on

2366
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:09,000
Speaker 3: the road tomorrow night. It's a must win game. Luca's special,

2367
02:00:09,160 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 3: but he's not close to one hundred percent and then

2368
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:17,200
Speaker 3: he's talking Smack after a dagger three. You can't e

2369
02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 3: fan guard me. I think this is the Timberwolves, who

2370
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:24,880
Speaker 3: frankly have lost two coin toss games last two games.

2371
02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:27,880
Speaker 3: This is their season on the line, and after losing

2372
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 3: in the final seconds and Smack being talked, I think

2373
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:32,760
Speaker 3: they are more than locked in.

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Speaker 1: I will happily take the three and a half with.

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Speaker 3: I Like Wolves, Tomorrow Night, Contrarie and no here it is.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm ready. Hopefully it'll pay off. Hopefully it'll

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02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:42,040
Speaker 1: pay off right.

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02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:43,920
Speaker 3: There, all right, Well, hey, good luck with your your

2379
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 3: fees and Nerfe's today.

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Speaker 1: Gentlemen, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, have a great day and a happy Memorial Day weekend.

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Speaker 3: We wish you the best and we'll catch you soon.