1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: We've got a loaded radio program for you. Will be 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: joined wrote a great piece for Foxnews dot com Doctor 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: Marty McCarry, who has been one of the voices of 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: sanity in the medical community. JOHNS. Hopkins of the Doctor 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: also the chief medical advisor I believe for the state 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: of Virginia and Glenn Junkin, the new governor there. He 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: wrote a piece pointing out all of the flaws that 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: the so called experts have embraced associated with COVID. We've 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: got the United States Senate which voted not to continue 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: the mask mandate on planes, on trains, in your ubers, 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: and your lifts, all of the different places where masks 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: are still required. We'll talk about that. Guess who was 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: the only Republican to vote in favor of maintaining the 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: mask mandate. None other than Senator Mitt Romney of Utah. 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: We will be joined by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: in the program. We'll talk more about Mitt Romney in 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: a bit although Buck, does it surprise you that Mitt 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: Romney was the only Republican to vote in favor in 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: some ways of maintaining the mask mandate. No, because ever 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: since I saw him marching with BLM and did you 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: we should pull that all day where he's like, well, 25 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm here because you know, I want to make it 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: clear that black lives matter. I was like, this guy 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: is such I guess maybe he was so beaten down, 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: but let's be honest getting his butt kicked by Obama 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, that he's just desperate for the approval 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: of the elites. Now, you know, he just wants he 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: wants the New York Times to think well of him. 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: That was pathetic, but this was even more annoying because 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: he his justification, you know, Clay, sorry, I know we 34 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: don't want to get his justification is that the expert 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: should make these decisions. No, I want to flip over 36 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: tables and scream profanity when he says this. The Senate 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: should be making the determination about this based on if 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: they want the advice of people like the CDC. The 39 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: CDC is not some super legislature, no doubt, and also 40 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: they're not held accountable by voters, which is why we're 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: saying November has to be an onslaught. By the way, 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: it is also the two year anniversary of fifteen days 43 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: to slow the spread. If you remember that press conference, 44 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: it has now been seven hundred I believe seven hundred 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: and thirty days since fifteen days to slow the spread. 46 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: We're still fighting a lot of those battles. But speaking 47 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: of fighting battles of Vladimir Zelinsky addressed Congress just a 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: couple of hours ago and made his plea for as 49 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: much American support as he could possibly get as the 50 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: overall battle inside of Ukraine continues to grow an intensity. 51 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: He spoke in English for a short part of that 52 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: overall address. Here is Vladimir Zelensky speaking in English and 53 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: the leader of my niche. I'm addressing the President Biden. 54 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: You are the leader of the niche. I wish you 55 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: to be the leader of the world. Being the leader 56 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: of the vould means to be the leader office thinking. 57 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: So there's no doubt now, Buck that Zelensky is continuing 58 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: to play the role we talked about this last week 59 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: of the modern day Churchill. He is going around and 60 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: speaking to all these different countries. He just spoke to Canada. 61 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: I believe he's scheduled to speak to several other European countries. 62 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: He's already spoken last week to Boris Johnson Parliament in England. 63 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: He spoke to Congress asking for as much support as 64 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: he can possibly get. I don't out that this will 65 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: help his overall trajectory in terms of the amount of 66 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: support the United States is going to give him. But 67 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: do you believe anything changed in any kind of substantive 68 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: way based on his address to Congress today? Buck emotional appeal, 69 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: That's what it was. In front of the members of 70 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: Congress assembled, there was a video. It was scored with 71 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: orchestral sad orchestral music, and they were showing horrific imagery 72 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: of children missing legs and buildings being destroyed. And this 73 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: is all meant and this is all happening, and it 74 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: is horrible, it is atrocious. This is meant to evoke 75 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: an emotional response from us that we should think differently 76 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: about what the US role in this should be, based 77 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: upon the emotional appeal, right, based upon our sense of 78 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: outrage morality, and I think we have to be very 79 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: cautious about that. We all understand what's gone on here 80 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: is terrible. This should have been the whole war should 81 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: have been inverted. I think that's also something that gets 82 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: lost in this discussion. It was an enormous blunder and 83 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: a miscalculation on the part of the data allies looking 84 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: at this, Biden administration looking at this, they really didn't 85 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: believe I think until the very end, until maybe the 86 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: days or a couple of weeks before that Putin was 87 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: going to go in. But put that aside for a moment, Clay. 88 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: There's already negotiations under way, this is being widely reported 89 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: on about how to end the conflict. What would be 90 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: necessary here in terms of concessions from Ukraine. Now I 91 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: understand that we want to side with and we do 92 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: side with the aggrieved assaulted party here, which is Ukraine. 93 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: They're being bullied and they're being massacred by a superior 94 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: military force in a bigger, stronger country in a way 95 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: that is horrific. But all of that said, the most 96 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: important thing I believe is to bring this war to 97 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 1: a conclusion. And there's already a discussion about neutrality for Ukraine. 98 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: Would that be enough now Ukraine, as I understand the 99 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: negotiations and of course, I'm out there and we have 100 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: to rely on the reporting on this, right, you're not 101 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: in the room. I'm not in the room, but this 102 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: is what western news sources are reporting. Ukraine is saying, well, no, 103 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: we have to have guarantees, security guarantees, and not just 104 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: a promise of neutrality. But there's already discussion about how 105 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: to end this thing. Keep that in mind when we're 106 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: looking at now the ask from Zelenski, there's really a 107 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 1: two there's two things. He wants a no fly zone 108 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: clear the skies, which we've already discussed, and no flies 109 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: on me and shooting down Russian planes. And it's not 110 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: seen for everybody out there that a no fly zone 111 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: is going to have the support in order to ever occur, 112 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: at least with United States involvement or NATO involvement. Right, 113 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: it does not seem that it's going to happen today. Yes, 114 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure ever, but I think today, which is 115 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: what that's my concern. I mean, Clay, you're right that 116 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: right now there is really a bipartisan agreement that we 117 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: don't there is a bipartisan leadership consensus, but it has 118 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: this has been evolving day in and day out, the 119 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: secondary ask was, well, if you won't do that, give 120 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: us more weapons. And now there's discussion of sending the 121 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: Switchblade suicide drones for example. I mean it's a suicide 122 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: for the drone, not a person, but that those were 123 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: used in Afghanistan for example, and giving them more advanced 124 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: surface to air missile system so they could at least 125 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: defend themselves better against these Russian strikes. Keep in mind 126 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: a lot of what we're seeing our Russian missile strikes 127 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: from what we understand in artillery and a no fly 128 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: zone would be very limited. And the way you stop 129 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: that with a no fly zone, Clay would be at 130 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: engaging targets on the ground, which means now our planes 131 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: are blowing up things on the ground too. So this 132 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: is how it gets much bigger, much faster. As a 133 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: point of US military involvement. Will we give him additional tools, Yes, 134 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: we've been giving them a lot. But I think the 135 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: focus should be on trying to figure out what the 136 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: negotiation could be here, what the the final deal could 137 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: be to end this more so than this idea that 138 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: you Rain is going to be able to differ. I 139 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: still think people think Ukraine is gonna be able to 140 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: defeat Russia in this fight and kick them out of 141 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: the country. And I don't see that happening, and I 142 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: don't think anyone is following it very closely as a 143 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: conflict sys that happening. And then you can certainly understand 144 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian perspective, which is, if we're going to enter 145 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: into some form of ceasefire, how do we have guarantees 146 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: that we're not going to get invaded again by Russia 147 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: in a year or six months or two years. What 148 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: is there that would make Vladimir Putin not actually do this? 149 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: And look, they've already negotiated. They thought for their own 150 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: support historically, they gave up their nukes. They thought they 151 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: were going to get the protection in the event that 152 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: Russia ever invaded. And that's the key to me is 153 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: how in the world do you get an enforceable pact 154 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: of non aggression going forward from Russia? And can you 155 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: trust anything that Vladimir Putin says in this arena? I 156 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: don't think you can buck And so that that raises 157 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: the issue of how do you ever in this conflict 158 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: when there is no mutuality of trust that Vladimir Putin 159 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: is going to accede to anything he agrees to today 160 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: or tomorrow or in the near future, four months or 161 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: years into the future. This is not going to happen. 162 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: So there's trust him. There's two parts of this, right 163 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: There's the stopping the missiles in the bombs from falling 164 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: right now to save as many lives as possible while 165 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: we can. And then I think what you're getting to, 166 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: Clay is the reality of what things actually look like 167 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: even after a ceasefire, and even if there is I 168 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: mean right now, I think there's essentially no chance that 169 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: you're going to have Russia agree to give back any 170 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: of the territory. Forget about Crimea, that's now officially that's 171 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: been officially part of Russia, even though the international community 172 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: of rejection it's been officially part of Russia for years. 173 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: But everything that they've grabbed in the east, maybe even 174 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: some of the stuff they've grabbed to the north of Kiev, 175 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: the capital city, they may say, well, no, this is 176 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: now a Russian protectorate. We need this for a strategic buffer, 177 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: if you will, between a hostile state and US. And 178 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: so what's the difference between that and a forward operating 179 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: base for further aggression? Against Ukraine in two years, in 180 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: ten years, who knows to take more of the country 181 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: as a strong or more powerful neighbor. So, you know, 182 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: is that likely to happen? I think so. I think 183 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: that that's one of the big challenges here is even 184 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: if there is a ceasefire and a promise of neutrality, 185 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: it feels like this is just a phased consuming of 186 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian state by the Russian bear that is happening 187 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: right now. It's just a question of how much they 188 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: do today, how much they'll do in six months and 189 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: in six years. But it all also comes back to 190 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: we want do we want to have a fight with Russia? 191 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: Does the United States? Does do our NATO allies? Want 192 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: to see how crazy Putin's willing to be if he 193 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: feels backed into a corner. And I think the answer 194 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: is still for those who understand what he could pull 195 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: off and what he could try. This is not our fight. 196 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: Our troops should not be involved, our airmen and women 197 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: should not be involved. But Clay that could change very quickly. 198 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: Enough of these videos, enough of these appeals. Not only that, 199 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: I mean, what in the world going forward is going 200 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: to happen in terms of bringing Russia back into the 201 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: global order. How much trust I mean, again, the analogy 202 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: that I would use historically buck is this feels a 203 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: bit to me like the First Gulf War where Saddam 204 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: Hussein invades Kuwait, the United Nations, everybody comes together to 205 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: kick him out of Kuwait, but he's still in control, 206 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: and so it's just part and parcel of a longer 207 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: story as opposed to some sort of official resolution. Obviously, 208 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: the difference is Russia is gaining territory here, whereas Iraq 209 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: lost all of its territory, but Saddam Hussein remained in power, 210 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: and we ended up having a second part to that, 211 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: which was the second can go for war. I don't 212 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: know that we're going to get any sort of substantive 213 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: resolution here because Putin, it appears, is going to remain 214 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: in power, and how can you trust anything that he's 215 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: going to do after what we've seen over the last 216 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: three weeks or so, And it does feel like we're 217 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: entering a new Cold War that's really a two front 218 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: Cold war. Yes, we have Russia to deal with in 219 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: the West, although of course Russia also stretches to the east. 220 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: But Russia to deal with in the West and China 221 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: to deal with. In the East, China more economically at 222 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: least right now, Russia more militarily. But the old Soviet 223 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: Union may be gone. We've got some pretty massive challenges 224 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: in geopolitics going forward. In the West. It's not going 225 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,599 Speaker 1: to be the clear sailing many of us that hope for. Unfortunately, 226 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: Pure Talk has earned the right to be called a disruptor. 227 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: They've certainly disrupted the status quo of the cell phone 228 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: service business. Think about it. 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First 246 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: thing we would have to do is suppress the enemy 247 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: air defenses, so we'd have to take out the Russian 248 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: surface stair missile sites. And then as Russian airplanes are flying, 249 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: you have to enforce the no fly zone, so you 250 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: have to shoot him down. And we can do that, 251 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: but then we're in a direct combat action with the 252 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: Russian military. That means we are at war with Russian 253 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: and at this point, I think it is in the 254 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: best interest of everybody for us to avoid being at 255 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: war with Russian. Russia has six thousand nuclear warheads, we 256 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: have fifty five hundred. The support we're giving Ukraine right 257 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: now is effective. Welcome back Clay and Buck. That was 258 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: Senator Mark Kelly on the no fly zone. Yeah, it is. 259 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: It is best if we avoid a war with Russia. 260 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: I think that is pretty clear, and so that would 261 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: be Let's let's be a very clear eyed about this one. 262 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: What is the worst possible outcome here? I think that's 263 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: the worst possible outcome of all of the things that 264 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: we're seeing, So we should do everything we can to 265 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: avoid that. So then what other options are there? Well, 266 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: Congressional Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy says that we need to 267 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: give Ukraine a mix of stuff so they can create 268 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: their own no flies. The President Zelenski was very powerful, 269 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: as many of you watch, made the case very strongly. 270 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: When you think about what President Biden should do, I 271 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: think there's a five parties in the movement right here. 272 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: Provide them the mix, Provide them the planes where they 273 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: can create a those Gizon. Provide them the armament that 274 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: they need to continue to fight a war that they 275 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: did not create. I thought the video was one of 276 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: the most moving moments in that made the case of 277 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: the murdering innocent people, that war crimes are being committed, 278 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: but America and the world cannot sit by and ignore play. 279 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: This is where we may see a change in sentiment. 280 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: A few days ago, it was giving planes could be 281 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: seen as an escalation, and people argue, well, we're already 282 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: giving them shoulder fired missiles, and what's the difference. Well, 283 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's like if you give your if 284 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: you were to give your neighbor a rifle to fight 285 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: off a home invasion versus I guess giving them a buzuka. 286 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there are different levels of military assistance and 287 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: involvement that one could point too, but I mean, to 288 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: be fair, it's lethal aid either way. So I see this, 289 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: do you think we're going to give them planes? It 290 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: seems like there is a building consensus towards giving them 291 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: the planes. I mean, when I watched the Zolinsky discussion, 292 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: buck what immediately comes to mind. Remember early on when 293 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: he said, this may be the last time that you 294 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: see me alive, and there was this idea that Russia 295 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: was going to capture and assassinate Zolensky. Yep, that seems 296 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: to have completely disappeared, the idea that he's going to 297 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: be captured and assassinated. Such that, you know the technology 298 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: and the search capabilities better than most, but when you're 299 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: addressing Congress and you're talking to world leaders all over 300 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: the place, there has to be a degree of confidence 301 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: that somebody's not suddenly going to bomb where you are, 302 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: or there's not going to be an assassin's squad that 303 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: suddenly shows up while you're in the middle of an 304 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: event like this. He hasn't left Kiev to our knowledge, 305 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: and so I wonder to what extent there is some 306 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: sort of agreement. I may tell me, if you think 307 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: I'm crazy on this, that his safety is not now 308 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: as paramount of a concern as it appeared to be 309 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: in the first few days of this invasion. Does that 310 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: make sense? I mean, when I see him doing all 311 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: all these interviews and all these discussions everywhere, it doesn't 312 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: seem to me like he is terrified that at any 313 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: moment he's going to be killed. It's you're hearing less 314 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: about it, to be sure. And there's a lot of 315 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: what really felt like war propaganda coming from all directions 316 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: in the early days of the conflict. I'd say this, though, 317 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: what really has to be assessed here is enhancing the 318 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: capabilities of the Ukrainians to punch back against the Russians, 319 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: specifically with planes. Does that prolong or shorten the conflict 320 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: so that we get to a negotiation and to actual hostilities. 321 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: I think there's an assumption that it would make the 322 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: Russians come the table faster. We'll have to see. Car 323 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: shield makes life easier for car owners. They offer protection 324 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: plans for a round one hundred bucks a month and 325 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: cover more car parts than ever before. 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He also has got a 343 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: great piece up ten biggest COVID mistakes Americans deserve an 344 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: apology from the medical experts. It's linked at Clayinbuck dot 345 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: com at Fox Sports, Foxnews dot com. You can check 346 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: it out there. Doctor McCarry, appreciate you joining us. I 347 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: read your piece this morning really well done. What is 348 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 1: your take on We said we were going to talk 349 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: about it in a little bit, but the Senate actually 350 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: voted on mask mandates on airplanes and Mitt Romney was 351 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: the only Republican I believe there were eight different Democratic Senators, 352 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: many of them in tight reelection races, that also voted 353 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: fifty seven total to do away with the airplane mandate. 354 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: Why in the world does that mandate still exist? Is 355 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: it totally and completely a logic? I think it is. 356 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: I think that we have now the data that we 357 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: should have gotten, you know, on day one of the 358 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: pandemic on cloth masks, and really what protects people is 359 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: the ventilation in the airplane, and some people just don't 360 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: want to accept that. And if you want to wear 361 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: a mask forever for the rest of your life, then 362 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: you'll say we need to wear a mask now because 363 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: we're about look the lowest numbers we're going to be. 364 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: We're going to tester at these low numbers off and 365 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: on forever. People are getting depressed. People don't like they're 366 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: sad when they're wearing a mask. We're not. We're losing 367 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: the human connection. And we just got data that the 368 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: isolation that the pandemic has promoted has increased the rates 369 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: of heart disease and stroke by thirty percent and increased 370 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: dementia by fifty percent. So we've got to accept a 371 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: little bit of risk on COVID to try to alleviate 372 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: the harm we're seeing outside of COVID. SA Doctor McCall, 373 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: can you just just hit that again because I hadn't 374 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: seen or heard that. I think people really do need 375 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: to hear this. We've seen what percent increases in heart 376 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: tack and stroke during the pandemic. Yeah, so this is 377 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: a study ironically that data that came from the CDC, 378 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: so just recognize the real numbers maybe twice as high. 379 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: But they reported that the effect of isolation during the 380 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: pandemic results in a twenty nine percent increase in heart disease, 381 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: thirty two percent increase in stroke, and a fifty percent 382 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: increase in dementia. People are losing their mind, so they're 383 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: locking people away. Is dramatically increasing their possibility of death 384 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: from a whole range of factors. That is, that is 385 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: from the CDC's own data. That's right, and something that 386 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: scientists are not honest about is that we've lost about 387 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand Americans a year above what we normally 388 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: lose and in our death tolls from non COVID mortality, 389 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: what we call excess non COVID death. Nobody is talking 390 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: about that. That is something that you don't see in Sweden, 391 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: which by the way, all in all has a far 392 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: lower fatality rate per capita than the United States. It's 393 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: being a doctor Marty McCarry and doctor McCarry. I also 394 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: want to know what you think when you hear the 395 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: CEO of Fiser Borlach saying that we are they're calling 396 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: for the emergency authorization for a fourth shot meeting the 397 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: second booster shot, and even Fouci now says, yeah, it 398 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: might have to be shots forever. I mean, are these 399 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: people just utterly shameless? Because I remember when even last summer, 400 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: when people like me and Clay and others were saying, guys, 401 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: it's going to be shots for every year for the 402 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: rest of your life if they can, if they get 403 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: their way, with it. I mean, do you feel like 404 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: there's any contrition from within the medical community, the people 405 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: that push this kind of stuff, And now I've realized 406 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: it wasn't what they said it would be. Well, a 407 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: lot of doctors are frustrated at that a company executive 408 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: now is basically taking the functional role as the director 409 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: of the United States CDC and doctor Fauci, doctor Winsk 410 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: are playing passive. We started to see that when OMRON 411 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: came about in South Africa, Willinski and Fauci, the NIH 412 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: all took a very passive role. And the companies did 413 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: the experiments, not the United States laboratories in the government. 414 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: The companies, the pharma industry did the experiments and said 415 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: we have data telling you that you should get another shot, 416 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: and they just parroted what they without seeing the underlying data. 417 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: Just repeat it that a lot of people are frustrated, 418 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: and I think if it were up to the shareholders advisor, 419 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: we might be getting a shot every Monday morning when 420 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: we show up to work. Doctor McCarry, in your ten 421 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: things that we got wrong, meaning the public health experts, 422 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: what do you think was the biggest failure? When I 423 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: read your list to me, it's shutting down the schools. 424 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: Was there a bigger failure in your mind than that, Well, 425 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one that's just close to my heart 426 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: because I'm as surgeon who has been with people at 427 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: the end of life at the bedside and the ICU 428 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: and the way that we shut out loved ones from 429 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: saying goodbye to their family members. It was a human 430 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: rights violation that spanned most of the pandemic, and all 431 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: the hospitals were complicit as the establishment did nothing. That 432 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: was one of the most cruel practices this country inflicted 433 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: on its own citizens. Doctor McCarry, Are you having more 434 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: and more people from within the medical community reach out 435 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: to you to either I mean, look, it's at this 436 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: point even more important. I would think that them saying 437 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: your right is saying that they will not allow this 438 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: to happen again. They recognize that masking up between bites 439 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: on airplanes is a moronic, anti scientific policy that was instituted, 440 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: that masking up of children in schools was an idiotic, 441 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: unscientific policy that was really child abuse on a massive scale. 442 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: I mean, are there other doctors who you know we 443 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: used to have you on and there were not a 444 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: lot of you mds with real credentials who would come 445 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: forward and speak obvious truths. Are you going to be 446 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: the lone man shouting from the mountaintop the next time, doc, 447 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: or they're going to be others standing alongside you. I 448 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: think a lot of doctors now feel empowered. They've seen 449 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: that they've got to speak up. They you know, I 450 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: got a lot of secret praise from doctors around the 451 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: country and a bunch of us who spoke up. Did 452 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: we took a big risk because universities and medical societies 453 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: journals bully and threaten people who speak up about their 454 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: opinion different from the establishment. But we're all proud of 455 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: our medical profession and we're seeing our credibility now in 456 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: the toilet, and that's why doctors are speaking up. Down, 457 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: They're coming around. I'm reading right now the Washington Post, 458 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: doctor McCarry. They have a headline a COVID surge in 459 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: Western Europe has us bracing for another wave right now. Obviously, 460 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: the numbers are down quite low in the United States 461 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: as the omicron variant seems to have burned out. Do 462 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: you expect to see these continuing waves in the future, 463 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: maybe even this one connected to Western Europe? There has 464 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: oftentimes been a connection between what happens in Western Europe 465 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: and what happens in the United States. Yeah, the UK 466 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: has been a pretty reliable preview of what we can expect, 467 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: and what they're seeing is an uptick. I wouldn't call 468 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: it a wave. I don't think it's going to be 469 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: a wave. What they're seeing is that the BA two 470 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: sort of second variant version of omicron is causing some 471 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: infection out there, even in people who had omicron in 472 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: the past, And so what they're noticing is an uptick, 473 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: especially in the southern region where the vaccination rates and 474 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: older people or may not be those vaccines may not 475 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: be holding up very well. I think we're going to 476 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: see ebbs and flows for a long time, and I 477 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: can guarantee you COVID's going to take a bump up 478 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: in the fall because it's now one of the regular 479 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: respiratory viruses. We're going to see every winter, every viral season. 480 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: Doctor McCarry, Are you confident that we will never go 481 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: and when I say we, I mean anywhere, including places 482 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: like New York, Los Angeles, We will not go back 483 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: into lockdown again. Is that is there a consensus even 484 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: if it's a quiet one on lockdown were disastrous with 485 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: little to no benefit. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a consensus. 486 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the study out of Hopkins on lockdowns. 487 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: It was very elegant, very sophisticated. My colleagues did it, 488 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: and it was basically blown off by a part of 489 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: the country that didn't want to hear it. Here we 490 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: had the largest public health intervention in human history, that 491 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: is the lockdowns, and people are not even interested in 492 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: studying the impact of it. There's probably no better comparison 493 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: than comparing Sweden and Michigan, identical in population, identical in 494 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: their age and age distribution, yet Sweden had doubled the 495 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: death of Michigan. We've got to learn our lessons, and unfortunately, 496 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: I think some parts of the country are not interested 497 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: in the data. Dr McCarry, what would you tell us 498 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: we should know? For everybody out there who is following 499 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: the storylines, what's next? I mean, we're right now. Today 500 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: is the anniversary of fifteen days to slow the spread. 501 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: It's now been seven hundred and dirty days, two full 502 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: years since fifteen Days to Slow the spread? What's next? 503 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: How does this continue? Well? I think the thing that 504 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: we've never accepted as a country that we still need 505 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: to accept is that there is a one to ten 506 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: thousand fold difference in the risk to people who are 507 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: vulnerable and older versus people who are younger and healthier. 508 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: We've never talked about obesity as a risk factor. We've 509 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: got to get people active healthy, We've got to talk 510 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: about food is medicine, and we've got to start recognizing 511 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: that risk cannot be eliminated. We've got to learn to 512 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: live with it because it's going to be here forever, 513 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: which means every viral season we're going to see a 514 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: bump up. You've got to use common sense precautions. If 515 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: you're six, stay home, if you've been exposed, stay your distance, 516 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: and if you're around someone vulnerable, be careful. That's true 517 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: of all respiratory pathogenes. At this point, Influenza is as 518 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: we're more dangerous than COVID according to the new Financial 519 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: Times analysis that just came out. We've got to learn 520 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: to live with all these viral pathages. Doctor Marty McCarey 521 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: of Johns Hopkins University Medical Center, author of The Price 522 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: We Pay, He's got a piece up at Clayinbuck Dot 523 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: com ten biggest COVID mistakes Americans deserve an apology from 524 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 1: the medical experts. Doctor McCarry always appreciated the expertise. Sir, 525 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: thank you. Great to be with you. Guys. 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Feel the different playing buckshow continuing now? 549 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here with us. The White House doesn't 550 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: learn the proper lessons from the failures and from the 551 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: poor decision making that it engages in on a regular basis. 552 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: They do something, the outcome is bad, and they keep 553 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: doing more of it. They say, if only we double down, 554 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: then things will get better. That's one one defining characteristic 555 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: of the Biden regime. Another one is that they will 556 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: still focus on things that do not matter and even 557 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: in some cases do not even exist, do not even exist. 558 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: Equal pay Day is based upon the myth that there 559 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: is widespread systemic pay inequity based on sexism. You've probably 560 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: heard this. You know, women only earn seventy one cents 561 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: on the dollar or where the number changes. You know, 562 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: seventy five cents or whatever. It is something like that. 563 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: And when they actually look at this in a real way, 564 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: when they don't create studies the way they create mask 565 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: studies now, where they don't have a control group and 566 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: they just are trying to come up with an excuse 567 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: to to push a modeling approach to it. Well, we 568 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: model this on a computer. So here's the answer. Well, 569 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: what into your model will be quiet, don't ask questions. 570 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: Equal pay Day is a thing now. I don't even 571 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: know this, it's the thing. It's March seventh every year. 572 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: That's Equal pay Day. And Kamala Harris because if you 573 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: ever want someone to represent merit, hard work and the 574 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: top level of skill in one's profession, everybody thinks that 575 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: Kamala Kamala Harris at the Equal pay Day summit. Here 576 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: she is with the usual Please. Oh, I think our 577 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: economy just has not been working as it should for 578 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: the women of our nation. Across industries, women are less 579 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: likely to be hired than equally qualified men. They are 580 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: paid less and promoted slower for doing similar work. Women 581 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: are routinely shut out of good jobs in high paying 582 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 1: industries such as science and technology, construction, and truck driving 583 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: in part because our society tells women that some industries 584 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: are just not for them. This is just not true. 585 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I want this is one of these things 586 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: the left keep saying. They keep saying that, and every 587 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: time it's debunked, you come back, dude, it's not true. 588 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: The way differences reflect personal choices, they reflect economic reality, 589 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: they reflect hours worked in, they reflect the difficulty and 590 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: risks of different professions. Play. If you ran a business, 591 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 1: very successful business it's been acquired by Fox, if you 592 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: could save thirty percent on all personnel calls, it's my 593 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: argument every time. That's my argument every time. Anybody who 594 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: has ever run a business. If you told me that 595 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: women only made seventy percent of what men make, why 596 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: would every business in America not exclusively higher women and 597 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: save thirty percent on their labor cost? And what's frustrating 598 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: about this? It's just a why. But what's also frustrating 599 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: about this is if you really want to focus on 600 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: women and the challenges they're facing. Right now, Buck, it's 601 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: the two year anniversary of fifteen Days to Slow the spread. 602 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: Do you know the overwhelming group of workers out there 603 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: that bore the brunt of the shutdown and the lockdown 604 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: women because women overwhelmingly bear responsibility for childcare in this country, 605 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: so shutting down schools and not allowing women to work, 606 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: I believe, I'm not sure we've gotten back there yet. 607 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: We were at a thirty year low for female participation 608 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: in the workforce early in this year or late in 609 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: last year as the ravages and impacts of the shutdowns continued. 610 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: So if you really wanted to have a nuanced, intelligent 611 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: discussion about the challenges to women, it would have been 612 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: a discussion about how all of the experts and quotation 613 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: marks failed and women bore the brunt of their failures 614 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: when they shut down schools and when they shut down 615 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: the economy. Remember, we're still over two million fewer people 616 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: working today than we're working when the shutdowns happened back 617 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: in March of twenty twenty. There's also in this equal 618 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: pay you know, there's this pay disparity myth, a gender 619 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: negation component, because the Left insists that women and men, 620 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: if left left of their own device, we'll just make 621 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: the exact same professional choices. And so when that doesn't 622 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: actually sort out that way, it must be because of 623 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: misogynistic gender discrimination, which is a very simplistic and really 624 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: kind of Marxist view about all this stuff actually works. 625 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: Let's just start with Let's start with this one. Veterinarians, 626 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: for example, Veterinarians are highly paid, and it's a profession 627 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: that is dominated statistically by women. Not all women, that's 628 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: not all women, but it's something like sixty sixty five percent, 629 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: a solid majority of veterinarians across the country. They make 630 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: a lot of money. Are men being excluded from that 631 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: or more women choosing that. There's also nursing, there's primary 632 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: primary school instruction. There's these areas where women make choices 633 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 1: that are reflected in the market place because women are 634 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 1: more likely to do let's say, veterinarian work and less 635 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: likely to be on one of those freezing cold ships 636 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: where they pull the tuna out of the bearing sea 637 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: that they made the show of. You know, well, biology 638 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 1: is catch fantastic. Biology is real, and biology is real, 639 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: and every man who's married out there and has ended 640 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: up having kids buy in large a huge percentage of 641 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: You have found out that women plan far better for 642 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: having children than men do because they are aware of 643 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: the challenges that come with having children in a way 644 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: and I'll put myself in this category. Frankly that I 645 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: never was. And they also again bear so much of 646 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: the responsibility for childcare that the people who were failed 647 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: the most by lockdowns number one were kids. Number two 648 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: were moms. And that's why we have to have real 649 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: consequences in the midterm elections coming up very soon. Women 650 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: are angry. They need to have their votes counted and 651 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: heard in a monstrous way. Two years from fifteen days. 652 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: To stop the spread, we'll do an overview coming up 653 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: sleeve Travis and Buck Sexton's on the front lines of truth. 654 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: M