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Speaker 1: Hi. I'm Vanessa Beyor and this is my brother Jonah.

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Speaker 1: We're two siblings who love to talk about our childhood

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Speaker 1: and nostalgia and how it shaped us into the people

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Speaker 1: we are today, who are pretty cool if I do

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Speaker 1: say so myself. Welcome to how did we get weird? So, Jonah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being on time today. Do you remember how

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Speaker 1: when we used to go to school growing up, it

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Speaker 1: was very hard for us to be on time? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I do remember. Um well, before we could drive, remember

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Speaker 1: waiting for the school bus and we could see it

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Speaker 1: I remember, just like so, I mean I feel that's

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Speaker 1: cut it super close or miss the bus. And I

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Speaker 1: remember once, uh, you and I had the same Doc

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Speaker 1: Martin like like high tops growing up. I guess I

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Speaker 1: same Doc Martin boots and Um, one time I wasn't

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Speaker 1: But then once you got to school you realized they

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Speaker 1: were too small on you. What's funny is I don't

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Speaker 1: like okay, and I would like never. It wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: that I got called into the nurses office at school

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Speaker 1: because you're like piercing in your chin fell out, and

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Speaker 1: they she wanted me to help with it for like

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Speaker 1: sanitary reasons because we were related. Anyways, we had a

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Speaker 1: lot of adventures going to school. I remember then. Once

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Speaker 1: because you would make us late. Yeah, well you were

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Speaker 1: like an honor student. Um, I was not in any

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Speaker 1: being late to school because of you, or just coming

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Speaker 1: really a legit punk um that wasn't a legit punk

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Speaker 1: such as yourself, Jonah well, believe it or not. I

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Speaker 1: just remember like how weird it was parking in our

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Speaker 1: it was like the yelling guys, which I guess is hardcore,

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Speaker 1: which fan was yelling guys. They were all yelling guys.

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Speaker 1: It was always a song with yelling guys. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: had some Yeah, our dad's friend helped us get some,

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Speaker 1: I'd like just love listening to love music in my car, which, now,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to like, yeah, but it's better. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You were just the coolest Jonah, And thank you for

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Speaker 1: giving me so much cred. No problem, I didn't even

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Speaker 1: you have been our whole lives. So well, what a

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Speaker 1: sweet moment. Well you've you've done well for yourself too,

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Speaker 1: so don't don't sell yourself short. Thanks so much. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's get into our yes today, our guest today. We're

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Speaker 1: so was so excited to have him. He's an actor,

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Speaker 1: he's a writer, he's a comedian. You've seen him on Southside,

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Speaker 1: High Maintenance, The Boys and as Jared on Insecure and

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Speaker 1: his recent work on hbos Paused with Sam j. But

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Speaker 1: most importantly, he hosts a wildly popular podcast, My Mama

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Speaker 1: told me, please welcome Lankston Kerman. Wow. Can I say

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Speaker 1: that was the sweetest interaction I've ever I've dreamt of

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Speaker 1: having those interactions with my siblings of somebody just being like,

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Speaker 1: you've done pretty well for yourself. Too beautiful, But it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's Have you ever had someone tell you they've

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Speaker 1: you've given them a lot of Credit's a hard thing

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Speaker 1: to start a response to it is, and I I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't envy your position in that moment to have

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Speaker 1: to come up with a charming retort. It doesn't happen often.

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Speaker 1: That's unprecedented. Yeah, No, it was a tough spot to

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Speaker 1: be in. I too found myself to get the bus

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Speaker 1: same bus experience. I wasn't. I wasn't often late because

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Speaker 1: and that that was always exciting. Wow. Wow, I don't

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Speaker 1: remember a ton of fights on the buses with us,

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Speaker 1: but um, I think, yeah, they're the best fights. I

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Speaker 1: an adult who we don't respect is involved. It's all

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Speaker 1: I'm a coward. I I I instigated fight. I chimed

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Speaker 1: Those bus drivers are definitely not paid enough to deal

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Speaker 1: the children that they're transporting. Yeah, so did you transition

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Speaker 1: I don't know what would happen. I don't know. You

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Speaker 1: remember for senior prank, someone broke into where they kept

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Speaker 1: Don't worry exactly. But then the next day we went

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I was so like freaked out

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Speaker 1: This is wild? I'm so excited to be like in

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Speaker 1: And I knew everyone who did it, and I was

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Speaker 1: But again, as someone my focus was very much on

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Speaker 1: still all gone, I think, But um, maybe not everyone

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Speaker 1: and cares about you. It was great. Yeah, was that

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00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: the era of like Detroit Pistons, like the Bad Boys,

429
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: this is this is years after Bad Boys. This would

430
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: be sort of in the wake of the This is

431
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: like late nineties, early two thousands actual like Alan Iverson,

432
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: I think in a lot of ways is kind of,

433
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: uh a synonymous with not synonymous, but sort of like

434
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: runs parallel with like the and one culture, if that

435
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: makes sense, got it? Got it. I was really into

436
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: sports until about like seventh grade, so all of my

437
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 1: references are like now, I'm like, I was this guy

438
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: still playing. My Dad's like, yeah, he's a coach. But

439
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: but I've been watching a lot of the ANI one

440
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: videos and one one player I've been very impressed with

441
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: is the professor. Oh the professor, of course, yes, I mean, well,

442
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,959
Speaker 1: could you describe in dove any thoughts on the professor? Oh,

443
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: I have plenty of thoughts on the professor. Uh. The

444
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: Professor was was white people's first, uh first introduction to

445
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: the N one mix tapes. And he was fun because

446
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: and one was so much about ship talking right that,

447
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: and I think in some ways it also was sort

448
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: of like a cool liaison into comedy, whereas like, I

449
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 1: like sports and then they say mean things when they

450
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: play sports. This is hilarious. So it was all of

451
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: that for me. But the Professor is interesting. His name

452
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: is Grayson by the way, so he's very white for

453
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: anyone who who's unfamiliar. But the Professor was sort of

454
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: like this cute, blonde haired kid who was playing with

455
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: all these big, like athletic black dudes, and he was nice.

456
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: He could he could dribble better than almost everybody. His

457
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: passes were insane. He did crazy layups and sort of

458
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: trick moves, and no one that they played against took

459
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: him seriously until he would embarrass every body, which only

460
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: added to the the pizzazz of it all. Yeah, yeah,

461
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: And what's more amazing is the way they're doing it

462
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: in these clothes, Like you were saying that is are

463
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: so big between their legs and it's like it's in Yeah,

464
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 1: it's insane. Have you followed what what the Professor has

465
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: been doing more recently? I have, and and he's now

466
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: turned into some sort of Christian basketball player where he

467
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: he like goes from random park to random park across

468
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: the world. Now he like has a very popular YouTube

469
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: following and Instagram following where he'll go to like, uh,

470
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: Singapore and just play random people at parks there and

471
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: then like cut up, uh, like footage of him crossing

472
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,479
Speaker 1: people over and then hugging them afterwards and telling them

473
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: that that God loves them. And yeah, it's fascinating. Yeah, yeah,

474
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: he's taken that street ball thing in a whole different direction.

475
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: I guess he has there's prayer now in it. And uh,

476
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: I knew him when he was getting yelled curse words,

477
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: but you know, it's different vibes. I guess for sure.

478
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: Did you play that the and one video game at all?

479
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: We found out about the video game recently. I did

480
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: not play the End one video game. I know nothing

481
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 1: of this. Oh, I can tell you that it came

482
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: out in two thousand six. I have a couple of

483
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: facts here. Um, the PlayStation two version received quote mixed reviews,

484
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: while the Xbox well, the Xbox version received generally unfavorable reviews.

485
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: So it seems like you didn't miss much. No, and

486
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 1: thank god it's so. If it came out in two

487
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: thousand and six, I had just graduated from high school,

488
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: and I think by that time I was pretty uh,

489
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't going to make the NBA, so

490
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: so I had sort of moved on from my dreams

491
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: of playing certainly I wasn't playing video games of and

492
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: one mixtapes, but uh damn, that's a shame. They had

493
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: their their big shot and they blew it. Yeah, it's true.

494
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: It's true. Were you did you play a lot of

495
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: kind of basketball growing up or in high school during

496
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: that period of your life. I did. I played basketball.

497
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: That was my main thing through uh through junior year

498
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: of high school, and then I got cut from the

499
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: team and then ended up like writing poetry after that,

500
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: so I took a big turn. But I yeah, even

501
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: after that, like I I then like made technically made

502
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: the team my senior year, but I quit to continue

503
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: writing poetry. But then in college I ended up playing

504
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: as a practice player for my women's basketball team. So

505
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: I was like basically like showing up every day to

506
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: like get beat up on by these these very talented girls.

507
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: So it it. You know, I love basketball, I was playing,

508
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: you know, for most of my life. I think giving

509
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: a basketball for poetry is pretty cool. I think that's

510
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty cool move. I don't know if most

511
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: people would agree, but I appreciate your encouragement. What kind

512
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: of what kind of poems were you writing at that time?

513
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: I think, uh, in high school. It was mostly love

514
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: poems the girls who uh, who were either partially interested

515
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: or I had moved on from whatever our situation was.

516
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: That that's probably the major theme of everything I was writing.

517
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: And did you were you giving them to the girls

518
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: or were you sort of just kind of brooding with them? Oh? No,

519
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: I I made sure you heard it. If if you

520
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: dated me, you heard those poems? Did it fix any

521
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: of our situations? It did not, But you were gonna

522
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: get every word I wrote down? And were you like

523
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: keeping yourself to like? Were you like I want to

524
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: write a poem for this girl, but I wanted to

525
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: be like, um, I am the pentameter, or like I

526
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: wanted to be a Limerick. I wanted to No, No,

527
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: this was this was two thousand four when limericks no

528
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: longer mattered and I am big pentameter meant ship to

529
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: any girls that I dated, I just yeah, it was

530
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: mostly just free verse. It was me just writing down

531
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: my thoughts. I I had the good fortune of going

532
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: to a high school that had like a pretty large

533
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: spoken word club, Like there were like sixty kids in

534
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: the program, uh in my high school, and so uh

535
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: with that, I think we just it wasn't as like

536
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: weird oh lame as I think it could have been

537
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: if this were like one of those weird like three

538
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: person clubs where our books getting knocked out of our

539
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: hands and we don't know what to do with ourselves

540
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: kind of thing. And sorry, one more question about this.

541
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: Would you would you read them the poems or would

542
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: you give them to them? So thank you for asking. Uh. No,

543
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: I I'd often read the poems at our at our

544
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: spoken word like um uh concert the concerts the wrong word,

545
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: but it was sort of like our spoken word performances shows.

546
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: I would read the poems there, uh, with the hopes

547
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: that they would show up to said performances and they

548
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: they'd be left so a flutter by the things that

549
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: I said, that they would come back to me and

550
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: our romance would begin again. Did you get into slam

551
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: poetry because that seems like a really like between basketball

552
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: and poetry. That seems like this sort of performative type

553
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: of poetry. You know, I don't know if I saw

554
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: Williams all this stuff was that era. Yeah, saw Williams

555
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: was was exactly that era, And that is exactly why

556
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: I think I gravitated so much to poetry. Like I

557
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: was already writing poetry, right, I was interested in it.

558
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: But then you know, you're coming out of sports and

559
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: it's like, wow, I don't I want to compete. I

560
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: want to do a thing, and so, uh, slam became

561
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: like a nice transition into that. And I grew up

562
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: in in Oak Park outside of Chicago, so I know,

563
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: you guys are from Chicago to yet we're from Cleveland,

564
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: but I but I lived in Chicago for a long time,

565
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: so you know. And so Chicago has the largest even

566
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: today has the largest youth slam in the world. Yeah,

567
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: it's this thing called Louder than a Bomb. And so

568
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: like our team would compete every year, and uh, it

569
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: became like a cool thing where like now I'm I'm

570
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: writing poetry, but I'm writing poetry to funk people up,

571
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, instead of just writing it,

572
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: uh for sad reasons. Amazing. Yeah, it was pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah.

573
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: Now did you ever speaking of being did you not

574
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: to take it away from your post? I mean, I

575
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: I I love hearing about your poetry. I feel like

576
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: that's so it also, but just being from Chicago, did

577
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: you ever see and one the and one tour? Like

578
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: in person, like when they went to Chicago, did you go?

579
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: I didn't. I wish I had. I don't think that

580
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: that I had like the wherewithal as like a young person.

581
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if this this you guys relate to

582
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: this at all, but I think a part of me

583
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: always treated that is like a foreign thing that like, oh,

584
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: it's like seeing your favorite person in concert. It wasn't

585
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: until I got to like high school that I was like, oh, ship,

586
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: they they might actually come to where I live. It

587
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: was always like, well, I'll never be in the same

588
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 1: room as uh as the professor or or hot sauce,

589
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it was just me

590
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: not It never even crossed my mind that I could

591
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: go and see them, So now I never got to

592
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I remember being like in that that

593
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: kind of like pre going to concert age where like

594
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm a little older than you. I'm forty one, and

595
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: so I remember like all these kids coming to school

596
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: wearing like American gladiator shirts and they're like we also

597
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: went to see American gladiators that like the arena. I

598
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: was like, how did you guys know about Like how

599
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: do you even find out about stuff? I guess yeah,

600
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, people would go to that kind of stuff.

601
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: I remember, uh, my dad one year took me to

602
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: uh to family Double Dare like but not not the

603
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: in studio one, the one that they would just like

604
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: to Yeah that would just go on tour and being

605
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: like a stadium somewhere and like do like random families

606
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: and not film it, but like Mark Summers would be

607
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: there and I remember him like pacing the like audience,

608
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: being like, we need another kid, who's gonna be our kid?

609
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: And me going crazy and he looked right at me

610
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: and moved to a different person. And that's why I've

611
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: always maintained fuck Mark Summers for the rest of my life.

612
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: I will go to my graves saying fuck you, Mark Summers.

613
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: I'll never forgive you. Well it makes you feeling better.

614
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: We just watched the Nickelodeon documentary and I Mark Summers

615
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: I think was probably hating every Also he did say

616
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: that um at one point his kids said to him,

617
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: like because he was going on those tours with Double

618
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: the Air, and his kids were like, why do you

619
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: spend the weekend with other people's kids but not us?

620
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: And so then he said, like the next day after

621
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: his kids said that to him, he quit. So actually

622
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: you were part of the thing that got him to

623
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: like stop working. So in some ways you got back

624
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: at him. He looked me dead in my eyes, and

625
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: he was like, I got to get back to my family. Yeah,

626
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: he probably that's probably why he didn't pick you, because

627
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: he probably felt so warm towards you, Like he was like,

628
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: if I picked this kid, then it's going to truly

629
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: break my heart. He picked some to another another beautiful child.

630
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: I have to end this here. Yeah, so he picked

631
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: like a kid that he was like this kid over

632
00:34:52,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: here out of a giant nose, Mark Summers Summers. He

633
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: doesn't talk about it on the documentary, but he um

634
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: famously has very a lot of O C D, which

635
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: who doesn't. But sure, and I have to imagine that

636
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: job must have contributed to it. Well, that's the thing,

637
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: is like, is it the chicken or the like what

638
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: that that job does seem? I mean so fun for kids,

639
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: but like there's so much disgusting even just like imagery. Yeah. Absolutely,

640
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: Like you said, Green, it's not coming out of a

641
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: a giant nose and you have to do this. I

642
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 1: assume they're filming what like four episodes a day, Yeah,

643
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: five days a week, just to be able to satisfy

644
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: our sick need to watch more noses, have more Bookers

645
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: in them. It's it's all bad. Yeah, but then he um,

646
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: he got right out of there once his kids complained.

647
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: And maybe I need to make my peace with Mark Summers.

648
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I can't go to my grave with these

649
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: negative feelings towards could be kind of live rating, you know,

650
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 1: just to let it go, not be carrying that around. Yeah,

651
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: all this all this gag covering my heart. Yeah, but

652
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: you know if it also if it drives you, then

653
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: that then hold onto. Sure if it's helping you to. Um,

654
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: did you watch did you watch a lot of Nickelodeon

655
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: growing up? I loved it. It was I was a

656
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon kid. I know there are some Disney Kids and Nicodeon. Yeah, yeah,

657
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: Disney Kids weirded me out, I'll be honest, because you

658
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: had to pay for the Disney Channel, so they You know,

659
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: that was a bigger issue for me as well. Our

660
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: cable was limited. But it just Nickelodeon was like edgy

661
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: and cool and like I was talking to somebody about

662
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: it today, actually that like it didn't it is just

663
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: now occurring to me as of recently that like all

664
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: that had like wul Tang clan On and Mary J.

665
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: Blige and they were singing their real songs, not like

666
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: versions of the songs in front of audiences of twelve

667
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: year old It was it is pretty crazy. Yeah, And

668
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: if you watch this documentary, they also Coolio talks about

669
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: how like he did the song for Keenan and Kell's

670
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: show and it was like the most popular song he

671
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: ever Like it was like it was like a huge deal.

672
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: Like it was like, it's pretty crazy. If that doesn't

673
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: make you do your hair the way Coolio does it there,

674
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what what has you know what I mean,

675
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: right right right right right totally. You dedicate your work

676
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: to being a talented rap artist, and the thing that

677
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: propels you into to stardom is making the theme music

678
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: to two boys, uh arguing about orange soda. It's a

679
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: bad combination for an adult man. Yeah, I mean then

680
00:37:54,719 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: he went on and did um dangerous minds that, Yeah,

681
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, And all we have now is Michelle Peiffer

682
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: and a leather jacket telling us that, uh, we can't

683
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: get out the ghetto, we can make something of ourselves.

684
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: Thank you, Michelle. Yeah, I don't think that movie would

685
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: probably get be getting made anytime against soon. I don't know.

686
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: I don't think so either. I think that's why we

687
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 1: don't bring it up for positive reasons than yeah. Yeah, yeah,

688
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: you know. I wanted to talk really briefly about your

689
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: podcast my mom told me, which yeah, it's not an

690
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: amazing network, I hear, um, But I mean, how would

691
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: you sort of describe the podcast? Maybe, um, for people

692
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: who haven't heard it, haven't heard it before. Oh, it's

693
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: I love conspiracy theories, and I happened to be black

694
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: and have a ton of friends who happened to be black,

695
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: So we just talk about black people in their conspiracy theories,

696
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: which oftentimes are are there's a lot of inn diagram

697
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: crossover between white conspiracy theories. But there's a different sort

698
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: of like twist right at the end, which makes it pretty.

699
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: It makes it fun and and interesting and sort of

700
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: a more nuanced, uh conversation than every other insane person

701
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: that's on the internet, for sure. I mean, do you

702
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: have any I mean, because to me, that's it's fascinating.

703
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: There's there's so many kind of interesting topics, are there

704
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: any that you've done that kind of stand out to

705
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: you or any that, Like, I just didn't know about

706
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: so many of these conspiracies, so they're really interesting to

707
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: listen about. There any any favors you have, Yeah, I

708
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: mean I have a ton of them. Uh Carl Tart,

709
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: who's a very funny comedian. Um uh improv sketch dude

710
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: who who came on? And Uh, it's a conspiracy theory

711
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: I've heard for for years now where we talked about, uh,

712
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: the theory that women put menstrual blood. You can't eat

713
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 1: a strange woman's uh spaghetti because uh women put their

714
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: own menstrual blood in the spaghetti and make you fall

715
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: in love with them. Well, I can speak to that.

716
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: That's that's something you heard when you were younger. It's

717
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: something that I heard more actually in early adulthood than

718
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: I heard like a person. But he's from Uh, he's

719
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: from Mississippi, I believe. And it is a very Southern

720
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: thing to like think that. You know, it's like it

721
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: has to do with like juju and magic and all

722
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that voodoo ko do I believe

723
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: is the the sort of like actual term that's connected

724
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: to it. But it's it's some sort of witch doctor

725
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: e ship. Yeah. Yeah, wow, that's it was interesting too.

726
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: I mean, we've been listening to your podcast and it's

727
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: interesting too that there is something. I mean that's interesting

728
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: that you heard it more as an adult, but there

729
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: is also some like I remember so many of those

730
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories from being a kid, like because as a kid,

731
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: like you really you're really like, oh, this must be true,

732
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: like this must be Like I was listening to the

733
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: Tommy Hill Figure episode and it's like we all thought

734
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: we were Like he was on Oprah he said like,

735
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: and it's true. It's like, what which episode was it.

736
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, there's there's literally no evidence of this

737
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: actually existing. What is it? What is it? What is

738
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: it about Tommy hill Figure? That Tommy Hill Figure, at

739
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: some point in his early in sort of like the

740
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: transition of Hill Figure clothing, uh, Tommy jeans whatever it was,

741
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: made a big announcement on Oprah that he did not

742
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: want black people wearing his clothing. He'd made it for

743
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: like a certain class of people, and black people did

744
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: not represent that class. And what I think I heard,

745
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: the version I think I heard was like Oprah got

746
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: so mad at him, that she like yelled at him

747
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: on the show and she would never have him back again,

748
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: and that maybe the reason we hadn't seen it was

749
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: because as she wouldn't, she refused to air the episode. Yeah,

750
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: I similarly had heard this story of the bravery that Oprah.

751
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: Oprah put her foot down and she said, get out

752
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: of here. Tommy, you never show your face around here again.

753
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: You're dead to me, and then that had like it

754
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: had squashed his career at that point. Yeah, I mean,

755
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: it's it's so fascinating to think about how these things

756
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: spread during that era, like before the Internet, how everyone

757
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: we could all hear these stories that like how how

758
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: did they spread? Like how did people find out about

759
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: this stuff? Well, it's so fun because because in doing

760
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: the research, what I discovered is that it actually came

761
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: from basically like some chain mail, like a chain email

762
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: from the Philippines, and it did actually come from a

763
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: shitty thing that Tommy said. Shitty is a weighted term,

764
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: but basically he went out and he said, like, hey,

765
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 1: please stop wearing knockoff versions of my clothing. It doesn't

766
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: look as good. I don't like that. And a bunch

767
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: of people in other countries were like, they forget you man,

768
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: You're like ruining our sweet deal when we make these

769
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: these nice knockoffs and that's how we make our money.

770
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: And so they made up a weird statement about Tommy

771
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: He'll Figure saying this thing, and then the email got

772
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: circulated so many times that we in our middle schools

773
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: were like hell, yeah, yeah yeah. And you know what's

774
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: so crazy. It is like even though that stuff is

775
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: so like you hear it a lot in childhood and

776
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: stuff like, I still feel like when like I would,

777
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: I still like every time I had seen an ad

778
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: for like a Tommy thing, I'd be like, why are

779
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: people supporting this guy? Like even as an adult, I'm like, yeah,

780
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: this guy is a monster. I don't know what. Yeah,

781
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: I I there's so many things that that uh that

782
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: we're hugely problematic and or wrong from from these conspiracy

783
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: theories that circulate from being young that I still, like

784
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: you said, I'm still like, I know it's not right. Yeah,

785
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: I can't know. I can't support old Tommy hill Figure

786
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: even though he's done nothing wrong. He seems honestly like

787
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: sweet man, sweet nice. Yeah. You know, there's also like

788
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: a thing with Jewish people I feel like where your

789
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: parents tell you that everyone's anti Semitics, so you sort

790
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: of think that like everything is somehow made by like

791
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: an anti Semitic, like you can't you shouldn't watch this

792
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: or do this thing or this thing because they don't

793
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: like Jews. As you know, that was I don't there's

794
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: we In a similar episode similar we talked about how

795
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: some people theorize that the that Timberland's were made by

796
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: the KKK, that the entire like, uh, the thing is

797
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: owned by the KKK, and the tree on the on

798
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: the Timberland logo is actually connected to uh, hangings for

799
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: for slaves right or for black people in general. But

800
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: that said, uh, one of the things that that sort

801
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: of gets uncovered in all of that is that Timberland

802
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: were actually originally conceived and owned by Jewish people, but

803
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: because of this weird rumor that got started, they got

804
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: associated with so much anti Semitism that it like did

805
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 1: do damage to the problem like the product at certain points. Wow. Wow,

806
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: that's wow. But yeah, I mean, I think that's really

807
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: interesting parallel because I think that the idea of like

808
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: a black conspiracy theory probably makes so much sense, and

809
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: the fact that like you know, brought you so marginalized,

810
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, taking advantage of brought over by you know, slavery,

811
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Obviously, how could you not think that

812
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: things are against you on some level, like with these

813
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. Do you think that's an element of it? Yeah?

814
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: I do, And I think in a in an interesting

815
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: way or a really like important way. The goal isn't

816
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: so much to just keep this like locked on on

817
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: black people, but to sort of show the ways that

818
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: like it kind of crosses over into all of our ship,

819
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean that like much in the

820
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: way that that you know, these weird stories come up

821
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: in the black community, they also come up in a

822
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: lot of other marginalized communities and then our American community

823
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: as a whole, if whatever that means, If that exists,

824
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: But like I do think that that it's not it's

825
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: not meant to be a thing where it's like this

826
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: is for us, and y'all ain't supposed to hear it.

827
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: It's like, not listen to it and recognize that you

828
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: probably heard something very similar to it, even if it

829
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: isn't necessarily verbatim what you grew up with. Yeah, yeah,

830
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: I think that's really smart. I think that, and I

831
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: think that your podcast really does that really well. And

832
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: some of them are are so dark. Yeah, like the

833
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: Brandy stuff I found to be like really darn all

834
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah I didn't know. Yeah, I mean I

835
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: just didn't know any of this stuff. Some of them

836
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: get real sad, uh if you if you take them seriously,

837
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: which is why I try to laugh through all it,

838
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: because yeah, we're going to take another quick break and

839
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. Okay, we are back and Langston.

840
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: Now we're going to play a game with you where

841
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: we bring up nostalgic products, like products shows, stuff from

842
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: our childhood that are now making a comeback. And if

843
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: you're into them, you can give them a yes, Stalgia

844
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: all Stalja, and if you're not into them, you give

845
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: them a no Stalla no no no no no no

846
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: no no no no Stalja. You face like you look

847
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: impressed by how fun these puns are, and I'm wow

848
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: staalgia by by what you're putting together here. I love it.

849
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: Thank you very much well to give you the first

850
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Speaker 1: man product um. A popular snack that was discontinued but

851
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: is now coming back is three D Dorito's Dorito's has

852
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: announced that they're e dimensional snack dubbed three D Crunch

853
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: has hit the stores. Um. They come in spicy ranch

854
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: and chili cheese nacho and instead of the traditional flat

855
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: triangles that you know we're all used to and honestly love, Um,

856
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: they come in a conical shape. And these were originally

857
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: available between and four but now they're they're back. What

858
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: what you know? Are you? Are you a Dorrito person?

859
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: Are you excited about? You know? I do love a Dorrito.

860
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan, and I do remember the the

861
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: three D der ritos. But I am going to say

862
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: nostalgia to the return of the three D de Rito,

863
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: because yes, I am a much uh. I I have

864
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: a much fonder, warmer memory of Bugles, and I think

865
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: Bugles deserve to be brought back and and celebrated properly

866
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: instead of Doritos just recycling their same flavor with new stuff. Yeah,

867
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of a Bugle rip off. Let me let

868
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: me ask you something like, let me see if this

869
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: statement from Rachel fer Ferdinando that she's frieda Ley's North

870
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: American Senior Vice president and chief marketing officer. Um, let

871
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: me see, it's a statement that she says changes your

872
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: mind at all. What's exciting is that we didn't just

873
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: bring back the original, We've evolved it to reflect the

874
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: snacking trends of a new generation. We're thrilled interest a

875
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: new version at a time when we could all use

876
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: a small amount of joy. What do you think they've

877
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: They've evolved it and about that. It feels like she's

878
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: trying to make this about like the racial uh awakening

879
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: of the country, but then pretend like it's just about

880
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: bringing snacks. Do you know what I mean? Where She's like,

881
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: America is in a tough place right now, we just

882
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: had an insurrection. All kinds of horrible things are happening.

883
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: But Doritos, the Dorrito's Company, is really here to support

884
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: you in and bring you a little bit of joy.

885
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't need to I see what I'm saying.

886
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure when she made this statement, but

887
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: it was definitely in response to something bad happening in

888
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: the world. Yes, they felt like, you know, a puppy

889
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: was murdered on their campuses and she was like, well,

890
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: Dorito's three d I guess we got to bring it back. Yeah, yeah,

891
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: it is really like it is a kind of a

892
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: funny name though to be like like this is a

893
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: three D dorrito, like you can touch all the sides

894
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: it like it's already three DS. And I mean even

895
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: that's such a good point. Yeah, we've been three D

896
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: this whole time. Yeah, we're not living in flat Land,

897
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: so everything is three D. Did you guys ever watch

898
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: flat Land? And it's a whole um? I didn't, But

899
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: I didn't either because I think I either made it

900
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: up or it was like a thing you want. It

901
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: sounds a little in like middle school math. It's I

902
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: remember flat Stanley, but that that's about as far as

903
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: uh flat uh titles that I'm familiar with. What was

904
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: flat Stanley. Flat Stanley was this thing that they would

905
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: make kids take a picture with as like a way

906
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 1: of uh, you would mail him uh two different people

907
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: on different like continents and countries and all that, as

908
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: a way of like pin pal sort of communication. And

909
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: so you would send someone flat Stanley and they would

910
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: take a picture with flat Stanley Stanley, and that's how

911
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: you knew that flat Stanley had like made it to

912
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: the people you were communicating with across the world. That

913
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: does sound very fun to me. This is probably like

914
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: if there's younger people listening to this too, grew up

915
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: with like TikTok and all stuff, I probably like, man,

916
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: people did insane stuff and they were kids, and it

917
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 1: must sound just so wild. Just the just the very

918
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: concept of pin pals is in my mind one of

919
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: the most uh embarrassing things that we could have done

920
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: for generations. We were just writing random kids and being like, yo,

921
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: I have enough friends, will you be one of them?

922
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: But my friend from Chicago, Louis, he said when he

923
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: was a kid, he was pen pals with um, he

924
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: was pim pals with Soley Moon Fry. So I might

925
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: have put the wrong emphasis on the wrong words, but

926
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: Punky Brewster was his pen pal. I know, I don't.

927
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: I should find out more information, like was it pre

928
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: Like at what point that sounds like maybe that's a

929
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: made up story. It's true, he's not a liar, Jonah,

930
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: And you're going to say that don't count my friends.

931
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: It sounds like something you would say though in like

932
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: sixth grade, like when were like doing improv in Chicago.

933
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: I believe Okay, Well, I mean he if he made

934
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: it up and it would actually be really I'm pretty

935
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: sure it's true. I'm gonna get confirmation. Yeah, I feel

936
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: like you gotta do some some digging on this. Yeah,

937
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: you want to bring this back in another episode and

938
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: be like, hey, quick update, y'all. Turns out he's a

939
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: a sick liar and he led me on for years

940
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: believing that Punky Brewster was his, which would be very sad.

941
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: Vanessa thoughts, I'm kind of honestly, I'm kind of a

942
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: nostalgia on it because you know, I hadn't really thought

943
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: about the Bugles element Langston, but I do think, like

944
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: you're right, It's like, you know, stick to what you do.

945
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: You guys are you know you already have like carved

946
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: out such a wonderful space for yourselves in the snack world,

947
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 1: and like yeah, it's like who needs it? And also

948
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't want to burn um Rachel

949
00:53:53,560 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: Fernando of Freedom A North America, but um, you know,

950
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: have some self awareness, I think. And and look, if

951
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: Doritos every wants me to do commercial, I'll do it,

952
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: but like has the self awareness of like, you know,

953
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: that's I don't know that it's going to bring that

954
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: many people joy, you know, And and if it is

955
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: you already. You know. I have a lot of thoughts

956
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: and they're not coming together in a great way. But

957
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm a nostalgia for it. I agree. I think you

958
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: put it together just fine. Thank you. The people that

959
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: want this don't need it, Let's not give it to them.

960
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: A nostalgia also, UM, I think Rachel just lost me

961
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: with that statement about about the snacking revolving for snacking

962
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: tons of a new generation. It feels just a bit

963
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: self important. It's like you took a torrito and just

964
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: copied the bugle. Yeah, this bugle thing, really, it basically

965
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: makes a decision for us. Yeah. Yeah, so great. We're

966
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: all all three nostalgias for that one. UM. The next one,

967
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: UM is about the TLC reunion mm HM TLC, who

968
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: are the best selling American female group of all time.

969
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: UM just announced their celebration of Crazy Sexy Cool National

970
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: Tour UM eighteen cities, featuring uh T, Bas and Chili.

971
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: They're going to perform songs from Diamond certified album twenty

972
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: seven years later. The nineties theme shows will feature fan interaction,

973
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: nineties fashion, surprise guests, and more. Joining TLC is Bone,

974
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: Thugs and Harmony, plus special guests. Oh hey, I'm a

975
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: guest Dolgia for that, that's pretty cool. I agree. Were

976
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:47,479
Speaker 1: you a big TLC fan? I was deeply in love

977
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: with U with each member at different points in my life.

978
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: I think, I think Chili was my my original first love,

979
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: and then I think uh I eventually realized left I

980
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: was was beautiful in her own right, and then super

981
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: sad when she died, and then of course t Baas

982
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: who could not love t bas So? Yeah, I loved

983
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: and their music was amazing. Yeah, I was in there

984
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: were great And did you by the way, did you

985
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: um did you see the v H one two thousand

986
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: and thirteen like that when they did, like the movie

987
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: about their lives where like people played them, I did not. Uh.

988
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: I valued my time and respected them too much to

989
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: revisit whatever the attempt was going to be at. I think.

990
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: Wasn't Kiki Palmer one of the Yeah, no, I know,

991
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: I actually yeah, okay, well I thought it was good.

992
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: Jonah Jonah was I think separately and it never talked

993
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: about like did you say that documentary that that weird

994
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: movie about them? And she was like yeah, I was like, yeah,

995
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: I saw too. And when it's pretty good, right, And

996
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: Jonah was like no, and so we were gonna have

997
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: you kind of um be the like deciding but but

998
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: respect that I was back that I can't say I'm

999
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: not going to be that person that says it's bad

1000
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: because I chose not to see it. Somate once again. Yeah,

1001
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: I got some good news because the same announcement they

1002
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: said to to our documentary special biography TLC is going

1003
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: to come out on any So that'll be like a legit, yeah,

1004
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: because they have such an interesting story to write, where

1005
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: like they were selling so many records and everything, and

1006
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: they were they were like making no money, right, Like

1007
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: I feel like every artist before like two thousand pretty

1008
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: much got scammed out of most of their wealth. Like

1009
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: I was watching this thing about Cisco the other day,

1010
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: and uh, the Thong song obviously his biggest hit, his

1011
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: most classic sort of like song. And as it turns out,

1012
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: he makes almost no money on the Thong song because

1013
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: of that living Levita local line that like he go

1014
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: because he threw that in there, and in the studio

1015
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: session they go a, man, I don't think we could

1016
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: clear that, and he goes, nah, it's cool. I know.

1017
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: Ricky Martin's people, I'll take care of it, and then

1018
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: never does. And they released the song, and Ricky Martin's

1019
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: people hear it, and they sued the ship out of them,

1020
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: and then they settle and basically have to give like

1021
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: crazy points on every play just to be able to satiate,

1022
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, the whole He sort of created Cisco follow

1023
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: up on your Yeah, that happened. That also happened with

1024
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: that um that verb song Bittersweet Symphony. It's like that

1025
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: main song is so sample from the Rolling Stones, and

1026
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: I think like they ended up getting like Rolling Stones

1027
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: got like all the publishing from the song because of

1028
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: some kind of deal. I mean, yeah, that was like

1029
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: the era where that kind of stuff would happen. It's

1030
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: so crazy. And any thoughts on bone Tones that harmony

1031
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: big fan. We're from Cleveland and John, I don't know

1032
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: if you remember the US. People would see we had

1033
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: a mall in our suburb called Beechwood Place, and and

1034
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: people would see once in a while they would see

1035
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: bone Thugs at beech With Place and they would be

1036
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: like they would come into school and they would be

1037
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: like I was at beach With Place and bone Thugs.

1038
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: But it's like it was like a very suburban mall.

1039
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: So it just feels so funny like that that people

1040
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 1: would see them there, and but it was like those

1041
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: were the only like those were like the celebrities that would, like,

1042
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, they sometimes go There's like you could sometimes

1043
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: see them at Beecher Place, and that was just like

1044
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: kept everybody. I can tell it was suburban because you're like,

1045
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: we saw bone thugs, and it's not naming which bone thugs.

1046
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: It's not like we saw all of bone thugs together

1047
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: they shop at the mall at once. Yes, I can

1048
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: think of like three times someone said to me we

1049
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: saw bone thugs. Nobody ever called anyone if my name

1050
00:59:54,320 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: really was like, I don't remember of that. I don't

1051
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: remember that. I'm sure, I'm sure how I remember a

1052
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: bunch of times people like coming back from Beechwood Place

1053
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: and being so excited about it. Laston, did you have

1054
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: any celebrity settings at any like Chicago area malls growing up? Oh,

1055
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: at the mall, m hmmm, I don't think so. I

1056
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: think I was a little too suburban, but not in

1057
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: a in a way that celebrities would come to our mall.

1058
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: It was more like suburban sad suburban if that makes sense.

1059
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: Like the North Riverside Mall was more a place where

1060
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Speaker 1: you could uh buy some Pelly Pelly jeans and then

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Speaker 1: get shot at, depending on the time of day you went.

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Speaker 1: Um So I yeah, No, I didn't see anybody there.

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Speaker 1: I did, I would say. The biggest celebrity interaction I

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Speaker 1: had as a kid was going to Chicago State University

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Speaker 1: like one time, and I was like fifteen, and Kanye's

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01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: mom was the was a professor there, and so she

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Speaker 1: had him basically give like a talk to kids, high

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Speaker 1: school kids who were visiting. And so they were like

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Speaker 1: three hundred of us sitting and this is before College

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Speaker 1: Dropout even came out, and just listen to Kanye make

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Speaker 1: beats on the table and like he was doing like

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Speaker 1: Spaceships and like all kinds of songs that ended up

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Speaker 1: on College Dropout on the table and being like, yeah,

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01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a hit right here, and check out

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: this new thing I'm working on, and he'd like seeing

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01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: a new thing, and we were like, this, dude's crazy,

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01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 1: It's so cool. So yeah, I knew, well, I knew

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Speaker 1: I saw Kanye before he uh, before he turned into

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Speaker 1: a different Kanye. Wow. That is really amazing. Yeah, yeah,

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01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: it was fun that. It's pretty cool. I got to

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01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: see him like two or three times before college dropout

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01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: even existed, and that was like, uh, a wild transition

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01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: to watch, you know what I mean. Yeah, so okay,

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01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: so this is a yes Dolgia for you. This tells

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01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: absolutely I agree. I'm also yes s Dolgia for them.

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01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: I was very obsessed with them and um. At camp,

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01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: we did a lip singing contest to waterfalls and I

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01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: memorized the wrap I does. And it's only like recently

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01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: that I'm like, oh, I don't have to tell everybody that.

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01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't have to do it for people

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01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: at carry, Like I don't have to like be so

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01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: proud of that. It's sort of like it's actually making

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Speaker 1: me less. Like I will say, that wasn't a weird

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01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: way for you to introduce yourself to me. But I

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01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, just not exactly what I was expecting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've done some other stuff in US, you don't have

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01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: to lead with that. Still, it's a really it is

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Speaker 1: a it takes a lot of skill to do that.

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Speaker 1: It's a very Hey I'm Vanessa, and uh I saw

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Speaker 1: a rainbow yesterday. Yeah, sorry that I brought that up first.

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Speaker 1: So great, So we got three just for that. Okay,

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01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: three dollars just for that. Okay. Now, finally Verizon has

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01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: brought back, um, the Motorola razor flip phone. Okay, and

1104
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: the new version has a full touchscreen and all the

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01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: capabilities of a smartphone. But it folds in half like

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01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: the classic razor phone, but rather than a phone that

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01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: becomes the size of a tablet when you flip it open,

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01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: it just when you flip it open, it becomes the

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01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: size of a normal smartphone, and then it folds up

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01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: so that it could like gets really small, like it

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01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: could fit in your pocket. Mm hmm. It's a nostalgia

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01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: for me. I I had to hear it all the

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01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: way through, but I think I knew I was gonna

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01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: say no right from the begin Yeah. I could tell

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01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: you kind of wanted just say no to it, and

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01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: I kind of kept giving you details. I heard Motorola,

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01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm good. Uh, I survived those years.

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01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: I don't need to go back to whatever that experience

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01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: was of weird colored Motorola razors. Yeah, I I agree. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and this we didn't mention, Um, it's the phone cost whoa, yeah, whoa.

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01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: I guess it's like, imagine if you could fold your

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01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: computer in half. I think I want to take this

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01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: back already, but just thinking that's what laptops do, you know?

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01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: But I mean you could know, you're absolutely but I

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01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: think like these ones, you fold the screen in half.

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01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: But am I wrong? Yeah? I think it's like it's

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01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: like your your iPhone could just fold in half and

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01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: be like half, but then it's like, so it's stubby,

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01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: so thicker would Yeah, no, I'm good that that doesn't

1130
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: sound good if they want to bring back a phone

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01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: that I think would have a big impacting The Sidekick.

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01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed the Sidekick. I thought that that it

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01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: was innovative at the time and deserves another shot, you

1134
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, Sidekick was I felt like

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01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: it was really like when texting kind of first came out.

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Speaker 1: If you're a sidekick, it was like you could really

1137
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: really get into it. I need to do the toal

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01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: nine you know? Yeah? Did you? I didn't, and I

1139
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: was terribly jealous of everybody who did. Yeah, it was

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01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: the one. It was the sidekicking. There was the one

1141
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: that you that you chirp where you could like chirt

1142
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: people with it, and I don't remember what it was called,

1143
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: but it was. Yeah, it just was there was like

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Speaker 1: the next the next. I wanted a sidekick in the

1145
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: next sale, and I got neither, and for some reason

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01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: that worked out for me, you know, I guess, I

1147
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I always wanted the Nokia like that

1148
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: when they first came out, the Nokia phones that came

1149
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: in different colors, like you could get like it in

1150
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: like pastel, pink or blue. And I remember some some

1151
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: like Girls Magazine reading it and being like all this

1152
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: slebs have like pastel colored. Oh like the little nochia

1153
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: brick like those little yeah yeah, like they had literally

1154
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: no like you couldn't do anything on them except make

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01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: phone calls. But that's not true. You could play Snake

1156
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: and that was a real fun game before we realized

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01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:20,479
Speaker 1: that other games existed. Oh okay, okay, alright, well maybe

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01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: I should have gotten one. I feel like this would

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01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: be cool if we didn't already just have like iPhones

1160
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: and regular smartphones, Like this would be cool if it

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01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: was like taking us from the flip phone to this.

1162
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 1: But I feel like it's kind of like a step

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01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: backwards a little bit. Yeah, it's it's you're reintroducing Jenko

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Speaker 1: Janes and like, I get it. There's like a nostalgic

1165
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: sort of uh want here for some people. But this

1166
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: isn't a great investment for most people. So but I

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01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: guess they price it's so high that it's just just

1168
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 1: for people who are really rich to think it's like nostalgic.

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01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't know who the audience is. Yeah, is it? Yeah?

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01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: I can't imagine paying fifteen hundred dollars for any phone personally. No,

1171
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: that's you gotta be you gotta like own a museum

1172
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: and yeah, you know what I mean. Put that next

1173
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: to a Picasso, I guess, and just these are both

1174
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: art that nobody else could afford. Yeah, when me and

1175
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: my wife are out at the grocery store or something,

1176
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: it's like, produce is really expensive. I'll be like, and

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01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: I made this joke's Vanessa yesterday too about something. I'd

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01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: be like, does this thing come with WiFi? Um, that's

1179
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: like kind of my go to joke, and this phone,

1180
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: I guess actually does come with WiFi. WHOA, So the

1181
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: joke doesn't totally work, but just my way of saying like, yeah,

1182
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: you gotta give me more. Yeah. When it when it

1183
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: comes to like technology stuff, it feels like the joke

1184
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: is it doesn't work as well with technology when everything

1185
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: has why I find out. Okay, so that's a nostalgia

1186
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: for you, Lankston. Jonah, it sounds like it's a nostalgia

1187
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, it's I don't want it. It's too

1188
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: much money. I don't Yeah, it's it's a nostalgia just

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01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: why Yeah. Um, I would say it's a nostalgia from

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: me to um, although I'm curious if the price point

1191
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: comes down a little bit. You know, I'm a consumer.

1192
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: I love products so so, but for the moment, it's

1193
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: a nostalgia for me as well. So I think we

1194
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: got to nostalgia's and a gues stalgia. Yeah, and I

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01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: think we're all agreed on all of them, which is

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01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,879
Speaker 1: pretty impressive on the same page, on the same page. Totally.

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01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: We we synced up and we we made it happen

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01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: together and I like that. Yes, same well, Lenkston, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for being here with us today. It

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01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: was such a delight talking to you and what a pleasure.

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01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: Is there a place where people can find you other

1202
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: than your wonderful podcast. My mama told me, yeah you can.

1203
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: You can find me at Lengthston Kerman on all platforms.

1204
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: It's just Instagram, Twitter that that it's at Lengths Thon

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01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: Kerman and yeah, you'll find me. I'll be there. That

1206
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: was really fun, Vanessa, Thanks so much to Lengths and

1207
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: for joining us and every and for listening. If you

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01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: enjoyed that, please subscribe to the podcast and keep an

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01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: eye out for next week's episode of How Did We

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01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: Get Weird, where we will discuss more stories from our

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Speaker 1: child Nice to Dumping Left, where we would discuss more

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